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Belarusian expert commented on agreement with the Russian Federation on joint provision of troops

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The agreement between the Government of Belarus and Russia on the joint technical support of the regional grouping of troops (forces) entered into force on November 14. The main agreement of the two governments, enshrined in the document, states that during the period of increasing military threat to the Union State and during wartime, the Russian Defense Ministry will provide the Belarusian military with weapons and military equipment, the newspaper writes TUT.BY.




In addition, the author notes, the stationary material and technical base of Russia, where it accumulates stocks of weapons and military equipment in peacetime, can be moved to Belarus during the immediate threat of aggression.

However, what does the term mean? "Increase of military threat"? Is this definition too subjective? Military observer Alexander Alesin answered these questions.

“We have two groups in common with Russia - a single regional air defense system and a joint grouping of the land forces of Russia and Belarus. All these groups are in a dormant state up to a certain point. Earlier this moment was called the “threatened period” - the period preceding the beginning of the war, when the parties mobilize, transfer their enterprises to the military rails. This period was very accurate, it could be noticed. But now, due to the fact that the notion of “hybrid war” has appeared, when wars are no longer declared, this concept has been replaced by a very subjective one - “military threat buildup”, and you can take anything for it: someone’s words, and hostile actions and spy detection. And compared to what it was, this is a step back and for our country is not very profitable: we can simply say that the threat has come and force to launch all the mechanisms - to transfer a single group of air defenses under a single command, send units and subunits into its composition. In the case of ground troops, everything is more complicated: the Russian part of the grouping can arrive on the territory of Belarus only in the event of the start of military actions, ”said Alesin.

In his opinion, the Russian material and technical base of weapons, which can, if necessary, be transferred to the territory of Belarus, cannot be considered a threat - the base will be under the jurisdiction of Belarus, and the period of presence of the Russian military in the territory of the republic is strictly limited by law

«Это мировая практика. Например, США на случай войны предусматривают переброску из Америки в Европу дополнительных подразделений войск, в том числе tank. Но война идет быстро, а танки в случае ее начала будут идти по океану долго, они их заранее складируют в Европе в законсервированном виде, чтобы при случае можно было воспользоваться. И там есть люди, возможно, американцы, возможно, местные, которые охраняют эту технику. Так же может храниться российская техника у нас», – пояснил эксперт.

He stressed that such a material and technical base would not have the status of a military base.

“Russia will not be able to come and simply use this base - we have many restrictions on military doctrine. In addition, all this equipment will be guarded by the Belarusian military or militarized guards. The Russian military can also be protected, but we have a restriction on the stay of the Russian units, that is, the military, on our territory - this is 2 of the month. In two months they should go down, everything is strictly regulated here. NATO also works in the same way on a rotational basis: one battalion stayed for a while, the second replaces it. But we, unlike NATO in Europe, do not have a permanent deployment of Russian military and bases, so with this we are much stricter. You should not perceive this as a threat, ”said Alesin.

In the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Belarus, the agreement is not commented on, referring to the fact that they are only an authorized body, and the decision was made at the government level.
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Vadim Zamirovsky, TUT.BY
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  1. Sofa General
    Sofa General 4 December 2017 08: 43 New
    +9
    Ekpird, who expressed this - apparently jumping in Ukraine for 14 years badly damaged his brain ...
    let him wear a foil hat ...
    1. Victor N
      Victor N 4 December 2017 09: 43 New
      +5
      Yes, before the expert had to decide what was more important for him: absolute independence or security. Troops can fulfill their functions only with one command.
      1. hrych
        hrych 4 December 2017 10: 17 New
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        Quote: Victor N
        Yes, before the expert had to decide

        Yes, do not care about him, the main agreement of the Old Man and the GDP, necessary and timely. And it is not up to Alesin to decide when and what to consider a threatened period. And the other day Old Man, threatened elements of Poland’s missile defense system .... Polonaise laughing and this is, as it were, a joint project with them laughing
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 4 December 2017 10: 57 New
          +3
          Quote: hrych
          Yes, do not care about him, the main agreement of the Old Man and the GDP, necessary and timely. And it is not up to Alesin to decide when and what to consider a threatened period.

          In, in. The bourgeois again ran into Old Man. This is a threatened period. They will continue to greet, and you can add the Iskander to Polonaise. So let them sit on the priest evenly and the sewage system will work properly, without blockages
      2. siberalt
        siberalt 4 December 2017 10: 25 New
        +8
        "Absolute independence" was. But only in the Stone Age, until other "independent" neighbors get hungry. winked
      3. Orionvit
        Orionvit 4 December 2017 11: 17 New
        +3
        Quote: Victor N
        what is more important for him: absolute independence or security

        Absolute independence and security in one bottle, can only afford such states as Russia or China, and even then not always fully. And fragments like Belarus (no offense to Belarus, but it is) need to choose with whom to be friends. And friendship means complete trust. Regarding Lukashenko’s policy, there can be no talk of trust. Old Man probably imagines himself to be an old Jew, who wants to circle everyone around his finger and from the height of his "greatness", thinks that all around are full of idi ... and so on. Here only in this way, either with Russia or with the West, two in one will not work. But probably the "successful" experience of European integration, all sorts of Ukraine, Georgia and other Baltic states, does not teach anything. Especially if you look at what is happening in these "elven countries", with "independence" and "security."
        1. weksha50
          weksha50 4 December 2017 16: 08 New
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          Quote: Orionvit
          Absolute independence and security in one bottle, can only afford such states as Russia or China, and then not always fully.


          Not one the state in the world cannot provide for itself absolute safety... hi
          1. Orionvit
            Orionvit 4 December 2017 19: 25 New
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            Quote: weksha50
            No State in the World Can Ensure Absolute Security

            Read carefully:
            and that is not always fully
    2. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 4 December 2017 23: 37 New
      0
      Quote: Sofa General
      let him wear a foil hat ...

      I also think:
      - "Give the expert caps of foil in the 2nd size and prozapas a couple more pieces!"
      Well, "krapki manager" let him continue to sign agreements!
      As the saying goes, "the dog barks - the coravan goes," "flies separately - cutlets separately."
  2. Jedi
    Jedi 4 December 2017 08: 47 New
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    Was this expert paid for or "closer" for his "authoritative" opinion from across the ocean? what
    1. Logall
      Logall 4 December 2017 09: 00 New
      +9
      But what about the dad? Why not scolded?
      Max hi You're closer there, why is the dictator inactive?
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 4 December 2017 09: 01 New
        +3
        Sanya, hi! hi
        Quote: Logall
        why is the dictator inactive?

        He is waiting. wink
        1. Logall
          Logall 4 December 2017 09: 03 New
          +8
          Wants to catch a big fish? On live bait ...
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 4 December 2017 09: 24 New
            +3
            And then! You yourself know: But father is still cunning ... lol
            1. Victor N
              Victor N 4 December 2017 09: 44 New
              +4
              No, he was just sitting in another chair.
            2. askort154
              askort154 4 December 2017 10: 01 New
              +6
              Jedi .....And then! You yourself know: But father is still cunning ...


              Especially after the election, such a whole steep, autocratic, navel of the Earth. tongue . And before the next election, again - very, very fond of Russia. The closer the 20th year, the more his "trick" will turn into a "zilch" and a banal next request: - "Vladimir, save, give 3 billion, I’m your friend forever." But father is not "cunning", but a presumptuous, arrogant, blackmailer. yes hi
              1. Jedi
                Jedi 4 December 2017 10: 09 New
                +6
                hi Which is, I don’t see an alternative to Father’s. All oppas look only at the West, but do we need it?
                1. askort154
                  askort154 4 December 2017 10: 16 New
                  +1
                  Jedi ....What is, I don’t see an alternative to Father But. All oppas look only at the West, but we need it

                  Max hi So he does everything so that there is no alternative to him.
                  We also have no alternative to GDP yet, but for a different reason. yes
                  1. Jedi
                    Jedi 4 December 2017 10: 22 New
                    +3
                    And there is. For the lack of competition, But father removes all competitors. In fairness, not only he does this. wink
                    1. askort154
                      askort154 4 December 2017 10: 28 New
                      +2
                      Jedi ....For the lack of competition, But father removes all competitors. In fairness, not only he does this.

                      And we don’t have to clean. They really aren't there for the next 6 years. yes
                      1. Jedi
                        Jedi 4 December 2017 10: 30 New
                        +3
                        And I didn’t hint at Russia. yes
      2. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 4 December 2017 23: 42 New
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        Quote: Logall
        But what about the dad? Why not scolded?
        Max hi You're closer there, why is the dictator inactive?

        Today, the "manager’s crap kag" has a lot to do with the tobacco business, otherwise they cannot sell cigarettes without his leading role:
        Authorities entrusted Oleksin with cigarette trade
        Read more: https://news.tut.by/economics/571541.html
  3. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 4 December 2017 08: 49 New
    +5
    Yes, there is no independence. What is this comrade talking about? Not very beneficial to him, Christmas tree sticks. Butke was smart enough, orientated, not a single bastard would go into Belarus. For me, on the contrary, there are a lot of limitations.
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 4 December 2017 08: 50 New
      +9
      Quote: iliitch
      For me, on the contrary, there are a lot of limitations.

      This is to create the appearance of "who is the boss in the house." wink
      1. penal battalion
        penal battalion 4 December 2017 08: 57 New
        +8
        In the context of the upcoming presidential election, there will be a great many people who want to "rock" the situation, including with our allies.
        I won’t be surprised if tomorrow they write that Old Man is conducting secret correspondence with Peter Alekseevich about the capture of the Kremlin .... wassat
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 4 December 2017 08: 59 New
          +5
          Quote: Penalty
          I won’t be surprised if tomorrow they write that Old Man is conducting secret correspondence with Peter Alekseevich about the capture of the Kremlin ....

          And this will not be the worst. The closer the election, the more dirt will become.
          1. penal battalion
            penal battalion 4 December 2017 09: 03 New
            +8
            Notice! The more dirt, the more pigs ..... wink
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 4 December 2017 09: 08 New
              +3
              This is a common natural pattern. The mud will dry over time and the pigs will run away, but their faces will be remembered in the face ... yes
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 4 December 2017 09: 09 New
      +3
      Well, it’s clear that only they have such democratic ones — the right ones. mutually beneficial cooperation laughing
      And for us they cry out that Russia is an achressor, oppresses everyone and enslaves, enslaves ... how, then, call them, they will bring you freedom and democracy am on the wings of their "peaceful. white ... airplanes" bully
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 4 December 2017 08: 50 New
    +3
    Divorced experts! Where not to spit, there was a yell, such as an expert.
    They are also grouped together ... the "expert community". Regularity, however - All ... colies are grouped in a herd.
    The herd is better than anything, no one is responsible for anything! Like the shepherd is to blame, and we are white fluffy.
  5. pvv113
    pvv113 4 December 2017 08: 51 New
    +3
    All of these groups are in a sleeping state.

    Does he even understand what he’s talking about? There are different degrees of combat readiness in the armed forces, but there can be no “sleeping state”
    1. penal battalion
      penal battalion 4 December 2017 08: 58 New
      +8
      Does he even understand what he’s talking about?

      .... but he doesn’t need to. A man fulfills someone's order ....
      1. Solomon Kane
        Solomon Kane 4 December 2017 09: 01 New
        +4
        The whole concept was drowned in the green mass of "American rubles"! crying wassat
      2. pvv113
        pvv113 4 December 2017 13: 33 New
        +2
        Indeed, when they pay, you don’t have to think
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 4 December 2017 09: 02 New
      +5
      And we can "espert" of the former .. those who are in the "sleeping cells" to be used to.
      That’s why all this “expert community” casts frank boredom on normal people, on those who generally listen to their fantasies!
  6. Fedorov
    Fedorov 4 December 2017 08: 53 New
    +1
    Here Old Man will die out, like Putin, WHAT will happen later?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 4 December 2017 08: 57 New
      +4
      Made laugh laughing
      As he dies out, he is a memory ... system. Until they break it, their work will live on!
    2. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 4 December 2017 23: 44 New
      0
      Quote: Fedorov
      Here Old Man will die out, like Putin, WHAT will happen later?

      Here Brezhnev died out, and before him Stalin himself and Lenin rested ...
      And?
      Not that the sun began to rise in the west or north?
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 December 2017 08: 59 New
    +4
    these groups are in a sleeping state up to a point
    Military observer issued on the mountain. I would say right away in suspended animation, why trifle.
    Come and just Russia will not be able to use this base - we have many limitations on military doctrine
    It means that it is not against a base with equipment and support on its territory, but it will be difficult for the owner of the base to use equipment and mate resources. Strange politics and strange military observers.
    1. Sofa General
      Sofa General 4 December 2017 09: 03 New
      +2
      I don’t see anything strange. the ekperd has a brain in a sleeping state - there pictures like Salvador Dali fly by, so he raves about them
  8. jetfors_84
    jetfors_84 4 December 2017 09: 08 New
    +1
    I still don’t understand what is he more afraid of? War or the appearance of Russian troops on its territory.
    1. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 4 December 2017 10: 32 New
      +1
      , "What is he more afraid of? War or the appearance of Russian troops on its territory."
      They are not afraid of either one or the other ..
      Locals who at one time surfaced as oligarchs in the near abroad (republics of the former USSR) are afraid of one thing - to lose their seats. overwhelming power, VIP privileges .. They are afraid of the absorption of great Russia and the loss of their hierarchical level. They are afraid of transforming from Presidents of states at best into county governors ..
  9. novel66
    novel66 4 December 2017 09: 27 New
    +6
    and I have a complaint against Belarusians — they grabbed the very best: the spelling is easy, in fact, as you hear it, it’s spelled, and the self-name is quite decent, and we were dubbed the Russians ... we go. maybe they will also be Belorussians, well, so that it would not be offensive?
  10. Topotun
    Topotun 4 December 2017 09: 49 New
    +1
    Thank God in Russia and Belarus, nevertheless, there were no stupid people at the helm who were able to agree on joint armed groupings. And experts are empty. They do not solve anything. And this is good. But will these groups have time to turn around ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 4 December 2017 11: 07 New
      +3
      The attack, if it does, doesn’t suddenly come true ... now it all starts with planning, logistics, proper MTO.
      statements, all sorts of different experts, that the type flew, bombed fired at the tomahawks and then with such a vigorous march went to conquer fool
      To perceive such, except as nonsense, in any way negative
      Appropriate preparation must be carried out, for sure.
  11. askort154
    askort154 4 December 2017 10: 34 New
    0
    Jedi,
    Yes I understand. I know your relationship to GDP and the Russian Federation. drinks
  12. SNEAKY
    SNEAKY 4 December 2017 11: 00 New
    +2
    lol It was amusing. In Belarus there are military experts ... well, perhaps from the indecent word "puffed out". A dreamer, like all Belarusian court analysts.
  13. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 4 December 2017 11: 15 New
    0
    Very thoroughly, our allies bureaucratized everything on their territory. That way you can oversleep everything, based on the practice of NATO. Let's do it better, as our own practice tells us - everyone defends himself, then faith will be self-giving: it turns out we are obliged to protect Belarusians for only two months, but how will Belarusians protect us. if needed on Russian territory. Moreover, only with one-man command will a combat unit be effective
  14. turbris
    turbris 4 December 2017 11: 35 New
    0
    Speaking of independence, this expert has no idea what it is. There are only two more or less independent countries in the world - these are the USA and Russia. There are no more independent countries, and if China in the future gets rid of its dependence on the United States, there will be three independent countries in the future. You can have all the attributes of an independent state, but this does not solve anything if defense is insufficient and a very dependent economy is available. Very often they speak of independence in the Baltic countries, in Eastern European countries, in Ukraine - this is just empty bravado. Belarus, even by its geographical location, initially cannot be independent, all the wars that took place on its territory speak about this. Therefore, this expert is a wimp.
  15. Piramidon
    Piramidon 4 December 2017 11: 41 New
    0
    Quote: Victor N
    Yes, before the expert had to decide

    Now every gopher is an agronomist, and each user is an expert.
  16. mavrus
    mavrus 4 December 2017 12: 06 New
    0
    Quote: askort154
    Jedi ....What is, I don’t see an alternative to Father But. All oppas look only at the West, but we need it

    Max hi So he does everything so that there is no alternative to him.
    We also have no alternative to GDP yet, but for a different reason. yes

    Yes, the reason is the same. The entire "opposition" in the election (not counting the moldy Zyu, Zhirik and Mironov) is so far represented only by advocates of the interests of the State Department. And where are the left-patriotic candidates? There is not even a hint.
    1. askort154
      askort154 4 December 2017 13: 08 New
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      mavrus...Yes, the reason is the same. All "opposition" ...

      The real opposition in Russia has never been, and is unlikely to be. Russia "genetically" has become attached to strong power. If power is not resistant to undermining, then it will quickly collapse. The West, knowing this, is constantly trying to use it in its interests to break this ridge, from century to century, Russia that defies them. Although life has shown that the Western model is “strong opposition - strong power”, in the 21st century this is not the truth. hi
  17. Sergey53
    Sergey53 4 December 2017 14: 09 New
    0
    Another damn miserable. Everyone is trying to show that we without them, well, nothing. They also try to eat the fish so that they don’t do anything.
  18. ship
    ship 4 December 2017 17: 12 New
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    Alexander Alesin believes that the agreement with the Russian Federation on the joint provision of troops for Belarus is "a step back from independence and may not be very beneficial: Russia's influence on our country is very large, and no one knows the clear signs of an" growing military threat. " see https://news.tut.by/economics/571254.html
    There is nothing to discuss here. This is the opinion of the “fifth column” and, to a large extent, of the Belarusian establishment, who are trying to speculate on the supposed absence of “clear signs of an“ increasing military threat ”, and, therefore, a threat, etc.
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 4 December 2017 23: 33 New
      0
      Quote: brod
      speculate on the alleged absence of "clear signs of an" increasing military threat ", and, therefore, a threat, etc.

      Well, help these brainless
      Formulate clear signs of an "increasing military threat." Or weak?
      Here, for example, "a cracker business man" with the "shekoladnyh Fuhrer" met in the UAE - is this already an "increase in military threat" or not yet?
  19. anjey
    anjey 4 December 2017 17: 45 New
    0
    In his opinion, this agreement is not very beneficial for Belarus and is a step back from independence ....
    what kind of independence in our time, it’s just very difficult to maintain it — without joining any pole of power, an example is the situation with the DPRK ....
  20. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 4 December 2017 21: 58 New
    +5
    Khe, khe ...
    Belarusian expert commented

    Expert, you say ... Well, well .... something I did not hear in principle about such an expert .... But about this ro .. This person It is known that back in 2014 he visited the KGB pre-trial detention center on charges of cooperation with foreign intelligence.
    he says the truth ... But not all, not always, and not all. And so .. When asked well.
    Military observer, do you take ....