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Argentine Navy stops rescue crew of San Juan diesel-electric missile submarine

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In the Argentine Navy announced the termination of operations to rescue the crew of the missing submarine San Juan. The operation was terminated, according to the press service of the department, “due to the loss of hope that one of the crew members was still alive”. It was noted that the search time for seafarers was twice as much as "the usual search time for a man’s survival in depth conditions while on a sunken submarine."


Argentine Navy stops rescue crew of San Juan diesel-electric missile submarine


Meanwhile, it is reported that the search operation itself San-Juan diesel-electric submarines continues. In the port of Comodoro-Rivadavia is the ship of the Argentine Navy, on board of which the Russian deep-water unit “Panther Plus” is to be delivered. With the help of this device, the ocean floor can be explored at a depth of 1 km.

In the above-mentioned Argentine city there are also Russian specialists who are ready at any moment to begin a search operation for a submarine. At the same time, the start of the operation using the Russian deep-water technology was postponed several times. The Argentine Navy said they were waiting for a military engineer to prepare a draft of the platform for installing the Panthers Plus on an Argentine naval ship. The engineer was supposed to arrive from Buenos Aires. Why he didn’t arrive before the Russian specialists who delivered the device found themselves in Comodoro-Rivadavia, the Argentine press does not inform.

It was noted that there were problems with the availability of translators to communicate with Russian specialists. Information Agency TASS reports that local residents offered their translation services - descendants of immigrants from Russia.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 1 December 2017 06: 35 New
    +5
    So much time has passed and they still cannot find it ... where did she manage to drown so much ??? what and all these super-duper detection tools still definitely do not show anything ... this is reality and not Hollywood tales.
    1. hrych
      hrych 1 December 2017 07: 56 New
      +6
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      super-duper detection tools still definitely do not show anything ... this is reality and not Hollywood tales.

      Definitely it is, and not far from the United States. Well, the Argentines, in their repertoire, inflicted unacceptable losses on the Brits, fought bravely, the pilots were desperate, but poor training and terrible logistics did not allow the English women to slaughter like pigs. am
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 1 December 2017 09: 34 New
      +4
      She sank in the 700x200km area. Find a boat that lies dead weight at the bottom - you can only sonar. Moreover, the ship should pass over the boat. Calculate for yourself how long it will take and sonar carriers will be required for continuous trawling of the 700x200km area.

      You can find the boat quickly - if there was an explosion recorded by several stations (cross). Or from the last signal - the boat did not go far.
    3. Maz
      Maz 1 December 2017 14: 11 New
      0
      That is, now no sailor of the Argentinean navy will go into submariners. And in the submarine fleet, you can put an end to. Because not a single emergency buoy has surfaced, which means either buoys are rubbish or, in total, worse. In any case, at least somehow the boat should have designated itself. And then, like a fish on ice. I would put a personal self-rescue buoy in place of future commanders. He would have tied it with a rope and pulled the lever into all the compartments. And it’s not a boat, but a coffin.
  2. 210ox
    210ox 1 December 2017 06: 39 New
    +3
    Once again. Condolences to the Argentine people, family and friends.
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 1 December 2017 07: 58 New
      +3
      Dmitry, welcome! hi Then engage in self-deception that someone survived uselessly, which is officially recognized. A pity for the dead, I join in condolences ...
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 December 2017 06: 50 New
    +2
    what time is the search for sailors doubled “Normal search time when a person survives in depth when on a sunken submarine”

    What I wrote yesterday about the commentary by the American military on survival in extreme conditions. Once again condolences.
    1. freejack
      freejack 1 December 2017 07: 15 New
      +1
      I join ... now even a miracle is powerless ... 44 young and healthy lives have turned into a mass grave. Everlasting memory.
  4. Herculesic
    Herculesic 1 December 2017 07: 05 New
    +2
    So, this has long been no longer a rescue, but a purely search operation. Argentina find a boat, even with the help of foreign experts a matter of honor.
    1. Bumblebee_3
      Bumblebee_3 1 December 2017 07: 25 New
      +2
      Herculesych Today, 07:05. I think it's not even about honor. You need to find a boat, find out the causes of the accident and take measures so that this does not happen again. And the crew, of course, is a pity!
  5. Orionvit
    Orionvit 1 December 2017 07: 27 New
    +5
    It is noted that there were problems with the availability of translators
    I didn’t understand something, the Russian team flew with equipment to the other end of the Earth, without an interpreter? Was not found in the Ministry of Defense, not a single person with knowledge of Spanish? Or does the institute of military translators (by the way, the best in its field) no longer work?
    1. ver_
      ver_ 1 December 2017 08: 25 New
      0
      ... well so it’s as usual - everything is done through the ass ... It’s strange that the beacon wasn’t * thrown * from the boat in the peak position - it’s time is peaceful .., according to the logic of things, this * adapt * should be ..
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 1 December 2017 08: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: ver_
        according to the logic of things, such a * adapt * should be

        According to the logic of things, such an “adaptability” is not something that should be, but should work automatically. There are two options, either in the fleet of the "great sea power" Argentina, a mess, or I just don’t know. But they have everything very fashionable and modern, even women serve as officers in submarines, not a single feminist organization will dig.
  6. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 1 December 2017 07: 38 New
    0
    They killed people, but why? Why do countries like Argentina need a submarine fleet?
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 1 December 2017 09: 03 New
      +2
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      Why do countries like Argentina need a submarine fleet?

      And so that countries such as Little Brotherhood do not squeeze islands, such as the Malvinas, which they still call the Falkland ... AHA.
    2. Moore
      Moore 1 December 2017 09: 07 New
      +1
      There was no normal submarine fleet in 1982 - the result is obvious. But if you could see someone would make a couple of holes on the way to the Falklands ...
  7. HEATHER
    HEATHER 1 December 2017 07: 44 New
    +3
    A song about our guys. But everyone in the ocean is equal ... Peace to you, the dead sailors of San Juan ....... I recall "KURSK."
  8. Monarchist
    Monarchist 1 December 2017 09: 26 New
    0
    The kingdom of heaven is lost. Now you need to look for the boat so that the crew is put to the ground and find out the cause of death
  9. ver_
    ver_ 1 December 2017 09: 30 New
    0
    Quote: Orionvit
    Quote: ver_
    according to the logic of things, such a * adapt * should be

    According to the logic of things, such an “adaptability” is not something that should be, but should work automatically. There are two options, either in the fleet of the "great sea power" Argentina, a mess, or I just don’t know. But they have everything very fashionable and modern, even women serve as officers in submarines, not a single feminist organization will dig.

    ..on the account of the machine I don’t know, it is unlikely in wartime such advertising of accessories is allowed ..
  10. sub307
    sub307 1 December 2017 10: 03 New
    +1
    Quote: Retvizan 8
    They killed people, but why? Why do countries like Argentina need a submarine fleet?

    Just in case ... probably. However, its submarine fleet is clearly not able to operate Argentina normally. With the loss of the first San Juan, there is no left to go.
    1. ver_
      ver_ 1 December 2017 11: 47 New
      0
      ... therefore, in the Ruin and get rid of everything floating and moving ...
  11. magadan72
    magadan72 1 December 2017 11: 45 New
    0
    They would send a squadron of anti-submarine aircraft and a group of refueling aircraft and crews with exercises and assistance to Argentina.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 1 December 2017 13: 08 New
      0
      Quote: magadan72
      They would send a squadron of anti-submarine aircraft and a group of refueling aircraft and crews with exercises and assistance to Argentina.

      Orions with Poseidons plus S-2E Tracker, C295SAR, SN-235, RS-130N and this is not counting the fighting and rescue ships that cut circles there ...
  12. SCHMEL
    SCHMEL 1 December 2017 12: 09 New
    +1
    Information for reflection: July 29, 2017.
    The Colombian army seized an electric "drug submarine" worth about one and a half million dollars.
    Military personnel discovered a submarine in the river during an operation in the Choco department, near the northwestern border with Panama.
    It is believed that the submarine 9 meters long and 4,5 meters wide was supposed to be used to transport cocaine to Central America.
    Unknown shipbuilders took about 5 months to create a sheet metal submarine. Thanks to electric motors running on more than 100 batteries, it would be incredibly difficult to detect.
    Authorities suggest that the ship is owned by the rebel group, the National Liberation Army, which is currently in talks with the Colombian government to conclude a peace agreement.
    Source: https://fishki.net/2347072-narkosubmarina-v-kolum
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    uju-perevozity-4-tonny-narkotiko.html © Fishki.net

    The San Juan diesel-electric submarine was designed and built in Germany. Launched in 1983, as part of the Argentine Navy since 1985. There are two such boats of the German project TR-1700 in the naval forces of this country.
    Surface displacement - 2116 tons, underwater - 2264 tons. Length - 65 m, width - 7 m. Underwater speed - 25 knots (46 km / h), surface speed - up to 15 knots (28 km / h). The maximum diving depth is 300 meters. Autonomy of swimming - 30 days.

    1. albert
      albert 1 December 2017 19: 29 New
      0
      Is this a hint that drug cartels have better boats than other states?
      1. SCHMEL
        SCHMEL 2 December 2017 14: 19 New
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        Quote: albert
        Is this a hint that drug cartels have better boats than other states?

        There was a state submarine - it became private, but where is the crew then? Did he drown? sad
  13. Nemesis
    Nemesis 1 December 2017 14: 21 New
    0
    The crew died long ago, there is no one to save there ...
  14. stroybat ZABVO
    stroybat ZABVO 2 December 2017 01: 02 New
    0

    que descansan en Paz, Amen