Kiev threatens sanctions to all companies associated with the Crimean bridge

Kiev continues to intimidate Russia with US and EU sanctions due to the construction of the Crimean Bridge. Justice Minister of Ukraine Pavel Petrenko said that all companies involved in the construction of the Crimean Bridge will fall under international sanctions.

This is a clear position of our American and European partners, this is a serious argument.

- explained the head of the Ministry of Justice. He also promised that the operations "with Ukrainian property" in the Crimea will be evaluated in international courts.

Earlier, the Minister of Infrastructure of Ukraine Volodymyr Omelyan urged the West to stop the construction of a bridge across the Kerch Strait, increasing the sanctions pressure on Russia. According to him, construction negatively affects the country's economy and prevents the passage of ships to Ukrainian ports.

This position was supported by the US Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch. According to her, the bridge will limit the delivery of goods to the Ukrainian ports in the Sea of ​​Azov. She stressed that this region is very important for the transportation of goods "on the way to domestic and international markets."

We will remind that earlier Ukraine called several times to stop the construction of the Crimean bridge. The authorities of Ukraine have repeatedly stated that the construction has a negative impact on the country's economy and prevents the passage of ships to the Ukrainian ports, reports RIA News

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[Andrey K]

Kiev threatens sanctions to all companies associated with the Crimean bridge

New joke

... This is a clear position of our American and European partners, this is a serious argument ...

These are the words of the partners, but Pavel Petrenko will pass on the broadcast, the hosts themselves are not able to voice their "arguments"?

[Chertt]

Well, that’s it, they’ve finished it, now the Great Ukrainians will have to demolish and repent

[Thrall]

Svidomo soon waiting for change. They have long been demanding an end to the construction of the Crimean bridge. And when it is built - construction, accordingly, will stop

[hrych]

Quote: Thrall

And when it is built - construction, accordingly, will stop

[Monos]

Kiev continues to bully Russia with US and EU sanctions over the construction of the Crimean Bridge.

[svp67]

Quote: Thrall

Svidomo soon waiting for change. They have long been demanding an end to the construction of the Crimean bridge. And when it is built - construction, accordingly, will stop

The most interesting moment in this, is that many Ukrainian enterprises indirectly take part in the construction of the Crimean bridge ... Here is "zrada, so zrada" ....

[Going]

And how many workers are working there with the independence.

[Cutter]

Quote: Going

And how many workers are working there with the independence.

You know, Victor, our office rivets rivets for this building. Despite the “union”, internal pride does not even allow one to “hint” at certain relations ... This is an “attitude” to those who believe that Belarusians are only an “appendage” ...
Sincerely, Victor ...

[Going]

Alexander , tell me, and who considers you an appendage? You see, even your office helps build a bridge, although I don’t know which one is small, big? or are you afraid of sanctions from Ukraine?

[Cutter]

Nothing, Victor, we are not afraid. Nothing, because there is an older brother behind Russia - Russia! Yes! I will not lie - if anything, we hope - Russia will not betray (we are small!). But here we do not catch flies with our nostrils - Belarusians will stand as one wall, as before. And "Russianness" for us is not an empty phrase !!!

[Sergey53]

Quote: Cutter

Nothing, Victor, we are not afraid. Nothing, because there is an older brother behind Russia - Russia! Yes! I will not lie - if anything, we hope - Russia will not betray (we are small!). But here we do not catch flies with our nostrils - Belarusians will stand as one wall, as before. And "Russianness" for us is not an empty phrase !!!
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We have no doubt about you. But at the expense of your chairman, that is, the president has questions. It seems that he was hanging between the worlds.

[Going]

Nothing, Victor, we are not afraid.

Thanks Alexander, I had no doubt, yes - and the brothers are all equal.

[Cutter]

We have no doubt about you. But at the expense of your chairman, that is, the president has questions. It seems that he was hanging between the worlds.

There is a bit of that ... But ... a small country that anyone can offend as an artist ... There is nothing in the world except salt and water ... How to survive? To the liberals in Europe ???? I do not want, and he ... does not want, and right !!!!!!!! They also have to "lick" with them, I can not stand it, their mother ...

[dubovitskiy.1947]

Quote: Cutter

Nothing, Victor, we are not afraid. Nothing, because there is an older brother behind Russia - Russia! Yes! I will not lie - if anything, we hope - Russia will not betray (we are small!). But here we do not catch flies with our nostrils - Belarusians will stand as one wall, as before. And "Russianness" for us is not an empty phrase !!!

Russian support will be provided to you. I am sure about that.

[Cutter]

At least for personal support - THANKS! Not everyone here supports Belarusians, thank you!

[not main]

Quote: Cutter

At least for personal support - THANKS! Not everyone here supports Belarusians, thank you!

Not all. But so many! Just when everything is already correctly said, why shake the air?

[210ox]

They worked at first. Then the security service cleared it. They basically migrated to the construction of the Tavrida highway and were spotted at Simferopol airport. This is not surprising. Local labor resources are limited, so they are attracted. It should be taken into account that Crimeans have many friends and relatives there. Here they go

Quote: Going

And how many workers are working there with the independence.

[Going]

Of course attract and will attract.

[Baloo]

Quote: Chertt

Well, that’s it, they’ve finished it, now the Great Ukrainians will have to demolish and repent

Not only demolish, but also pull out piles take

[Reserve officer]

It seems to me that Ukraine on the Sea of ​​Azov is clearly superfluous.

[dubovitskiy.1947]

Quote: Stock Officer

It seems to me that Ukraine on the Sea of ​​Azov is clearly superfluous.

And if you think about how to save the brothers from material losses, for example, by the conduct of a referendum in the Azov regions of Ukraine, and add the poor to Russia? With the presence of European observers?

[Grits]

The best way out of this situation is to turn Ukrainian ports on the Sea of ​​Azov into Russian ports. DNR to help us!

[INTER]

Quote: Andrey K

Kiev threatens sanctions to all companies associated with the Crimean bridge

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Let Mosfilm Studios Threaten Sanctions)

[210ox]

What is it new? For at least two years now threatens ..

Quote: Andrey K

Kiev threatens sanctions to all companies associated with the Crimean bridge

New joke

[Going]

No, they said at first Mosfilm shows that they will not build anything, but now they have voted when the bridge is almost ready.

[volodya]

Quote: Andrey K

New joke

. If only they smiled before fooling around!

[vovanpain]

He also promised that operations "with Ukrainian property" in the Crimea will be evaluated in international courts

Yeah, of course they will, for example.

[Cutter]

Yes, right!

[siberalt]

Transfer Ukrainian Azov ports to LDNR and the end of the matter.
How long does it take for someone to call Zakharchenko. The connection is already established, however.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Andrey K

These are the words of the partners, but Pavel Petrenko will pass on the broadcast, the hosts themselves are not able to voice their "arguments"?

And the owners, in particular France, England, Germany will be silent in a rag, because our nerves are also not iron and we can, in the heat of passion, turn the gas valve on and off. And if the same thing happens with Ukraine, then the European community on the drum ...

[Pirogov]

Quote: NEXUS

And the owners, in particular France, England, Germany will be silent in a rag, because our nerves are also not iron and we can, in the heat of passion, turn the gas valve on and off. And if the same thing happens to Ukraine, then the European community will be hit by a drum.

The United States rules, and the ones you listed above are the same vassals as Kiev.

[Going]

They are vassals - yes, but with a higher rank and something they can.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Pirogov

The United States rules, and the ones you listed above are the same vassals as Kiev.

England stands apart, as part of the Anglo-sphere ...

The American businessman James C. Bennett, holds the idea that something special is embedded in the cultural and legal tradition of English-speaking countries. In his blog article, “Albion's Seedlings”, he describes the Anglo-Sphere as a network civilization that does not have an appropriate political form and, as a result, is devoid of clear boundaries. The geographically most important nodes of the Anglo-Sphere are the United States and Great Britain, while the English-speaking Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, and South Africa are powerful and densely populated branches. An educated, knowledgeable English population of the Caribbean, Oceania, Africa and India forms the border of the Anglo-sphere

[Grits]

And the owners, in particular France, England, Germany will be silent in a rag, because our nerves are also not iron and we can, in the heat of passion, turn the gas valve on and off.
The most annoying thing is that by turning this valve to Europe, we are spinning a valve of currency. And the pin is just waiting for the moment to bring their liquefied gas to Europe with joyful cries.

[ibn.shamai]

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And about the amers joke.

[Primoos]

When I hear the word SANCTIONS, I start to laugh!

[venik]

Quote: Andrey K

Kiev threatens sanctions to all companies associated with the Crimean bridge

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And I liked something else:
"... This is a clear position of our American and European partners, this is a serious argument ...."
Somewhere it was already ... Ah! Far far away childhood: “Right now I’ll call the“ elder brother ”- he’s“ laying on your neck ”!!”
That all "independence" ...... Sad !!!

[Lena Petrova]

And what, someone does not give easy access?

[210ox]

Of course they don’t .. The passage of greed, and ambition clings there anchors ..

Quote: Lena Petrova

And what, someone does not give easy access?

[yakyu20]

They give it, but under the Crimean bridge - it’s not patriotic

[_Jack_]

The Ukrainian authorities have repeatedly stated that the construction negatively affects the country's economy and impedes the passage of ships to Ukrainian ports

They are specifically explaining something, how exactly does the bridge interfere with the passage of ships to Ukrainian ports, they do not pass in height or what? Maybe there really are some restrictions or another nonsense?

[vovanpain]

Quote: _Jack_

Maybe there really are some restrictions or another nonsense?

Limitations were when they set the railway and automobile arches and all.

[_Jack_]

Well, how can something be presented on this basis? What are billions of dollars in 2 days? Apparently they came up with something else, that's interesting.

[Going]

Quote: _Jack_

, I wonder what.

I want to eat and on the principle of the more we name the more important we will seem.

[Overlock]

restrictions for passage of vessels (according to Ukraine) are related to the height of superstructures, draft. According to the project, the height of the Kerch bridge at the place of passage of vessels should be 35 meters. This means that ships with a height of not more than 33 meters will be able to get into the Ukrainian ports of the Sea of ​​Azov. The designers of the bridge also claim that the fairway depth under it will reach 9 meters.
--In the letter of the acting the captain of the seaport of Kerch, the maritime agents are specified that to ensure safety during the operation of these restrictions, the dimensions of vessels that can pass under arches should not exceed 160 meters, width - 31 meters, surface dimension - 33 meters. And the draft should be no more than 8 meters.
- Administration of the seaports of Ukraine - the average dimensions of vessels handled in Ukrainian seaports of the Azov region are as follows: length - 175 meters, width - 27 meters, draft - 9,6 meters.
In addition, often Panamax type vessels call at the Mariupol seaport with the following dimensions: length - 225 meters, width - 32,5 meters, maximum draft - 14 meters, surface dimension - 37,5 meters. "The largest ship, which was handled in the seaport of Mariupol, had a full carrying capacity of 94 thousand tons, a length of 235 meters, a width of 38 meters, a maximum draft of 14,5 meters, a height of 49 meters"

[Going]

maximum draft 14,5

Well, you give my friend ... a maximum of 8 meters.

[Overlock]

it is not I who give, this is the captain of the port of Kerch gives.

[Going]

Then do not be lazy and look at the official site of the port of Mariupol.
In Soviet times, there was a period when the Kerch canal was deepened to 10 meters, it is very expensive, now the channel passes ships with a draft of up to 8 meters, this is before the construction of the bridge begins.

[Overlock]

Mariupol has nothing to do with Kerch-Yenikalsky Canal. Now, if you only deliver the ship to Mariupol by air, then everything fits.
The path to Mariupol goes through the Kerch-Yenikalsky Canal, for this a map is not needed, but you look

[Overlock]

The Kerch-Yenikalsky Canal (KEK) is a maritime shipping channel in the Kerch Strait. It connects the Sea of ​​Azov and the Black Sea. According to the order of the Captain of the seaport of Kerch dated 27.01.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX, the following knee depths of the Kerch-Yenikalsky canal were established:

Pavlovsk elbow - 8,3 m,
Burun knee - 9,2 m,
Yenikal elbow - 9,2 m,
Chushkin knee - 9,3 m.
After the passage of the Kerch-Yenikalsky Canal to the control of the Russian Federation, the vessel’s length allowed to go through the canal was increased in 2014 to 252 meters, which was fixed by mandatory regulations in the seaport of Kerch approved by order of the Russian Ministry of Transport. Allowable draft remained the same - 8 meters.
On May 24, 2017, the captain of the seaport of Kerch made a notice stating that after the installation of the arches of the bridge over the Kerch Strait, in accordance with the recommendations of Soyuzmorniiproekt JSC and SGM LLC, the vessels passing through the Kerch-Yenikalsky Canal must satisfy the following conditions [10]: length - 160 m, width - 31 m, draft - 8 m, surface dimension - 33 m, but already after its installation passage through the channel of vessels with a length exceeding 160 meters was recorded.
So feel free to draft more than 8 meters into the canal. I believe that the protection of the canal will quickly take you on board, you won’t reach Mariupol

[Overlock]

How the port of Rostov-on-Don works:
To work with distant markets through small ports, exporters are forced to resort to grain transshipment in the roads: sending small-tonnage ships over long distances is unprofitable. Specialized vessels (shuttles) between Rostov-Azov and the water area of ​​the ports of Kavkaz and Kerch go to raid transshipment, where, using floating cranes, they are reloaded onto ships of the Handisize and Panamax type.

[Going]

You are very excited, and I have worked in ports all my life, believe me you are mistaken.

[Overlock]

it is possible that you are right. But since there is such information, I use it. And about 14 meters, this is the statement of Ukraine, I cited it as a second opinion.
I myself became interested in these steamboats, I read a little.

[Going]

Read, here’s the post below.

[_Jack_]

by the way, yes, here is a screen from the site of the port of Mariupol
https://marport.net/?q=ru_characteristics_of_the_
port

[Going]

The gentleman does not understand; he issued a blizzard from informational directories and made no conclusion.

[loginovich]

When underloaded pass.

[Baloo]

Yaytsenyukha has a lot of experience in digging. Let now they dig a strait between the Crimea to Mariupol. And we will fall asleep the Kerch Strait sapsem.

[Overlock]

Administration of the seaports of Ukraine: In addition, Panamax-type vessels with the following dimensions often go to Mariupol seaport: length - 225 meters, width - 32,5 meters, maximum draft - 14 meters, surface dimension - 37,5 meters. "The largest ship, which was handled in the seaport of Mariupol, had a full load capacity of 94 thousand tons, a length of 235 meters, a width of 38 meters, a maximum draft of 14,5 meters, a height of 49 meters."
Questions to Ukraine

[Overlock]

Administration of the seaports of Ukraine - "the largest vessel that was handled in the seaport of Mariupol, had a full load capacity of 94 thousand tons, a length of 235 meters, a width of 38 meters, a maximum draft of 14,5 meters, a height of 49 meters."
So the question is about 14 meters to them.
By the way. load such vessels in Rostov, Azov. Look for it. BUT ship not to the eyeballs!

[Going]

How it crawled out of there, you can imagine it.

[Rostovchanin]

What nonsense with a draft of 14 meters? Do you know that the maximum depth of the Sea of ​​Azov is 13,5 meters?
Sea of ​​Azov (Ukrainian. Sea of ​​Azov, Crimean Tat. Azaq deñizi, Greek Θάλασσα ΑζΑφ, Urum. Azav Deniz) - a semi-closed sea of ​​the Atlantic Ocean in eastern Europe, washing the coast of Ukraine [1] and Russia. The shallowest sea in the world: the depth does not exceed 13,5 meters [2], the average depth is about 7,4 m (according to various estimates, from 6,8 to 8 m) [3]. The Sea of ​​Azov is connected to the Atlantic Ocean by a long chain of straits and seas

[Sergey53]

Minor correction: max. the depth of the Sea of ​​Azov is 15m in the center and from 7 to 10 on average. The maximum draft of ships calling in the Sea of ​​Azov is 9.6m. Only the Panamax vessel calling at the port of Mariupol has a draft of 14.5m

[Overlock]

I already found how they are loaded, see above. Loads and Mariupol, and Rostov, and Azov

[a housewife]

Well, okay, in height, in depth, then what? We artificially lowered the fairway depth, or what? Really, fell asleep?

[Overlock]

On May 24, 2017, the captain of the seaport of Kerch made a notice stating that after the installation of the arches of the bridge over the Kerch Strait, in accordance with the recommendations of Soyuzmorniiproekt JSC and SGM LLC, the vessels passing through the Kerch-Yenikalsky Canal must satisfy the following conditions: length - 160 m, width - 31 m, draft - 8 m, surface dimension - 33 m

[Herculesic]

Already disgusting to listen to nonsense from ukrovinovnikov! When will we finally take back our lands?

[210ox]

You can’t take it away. They will be even more brutalized. But the bream of good for improving the worldview does not interfere ..

Quote: Herkulesich

Already disgusting to listen to nonsense from ukrovinovnikov! When will we finally take back our lands?

[PSih2097]

Quote: 210ox

. But the bream of good to improve the worldview does not interfere ..

it’s useless to do it already, it’s easier to take it away like incapable persons ...

[Going]

According to him, the construction negatively affects the country's economy and impedes the passage of ships to Ukrainian ports.

But on this they can simply be smeared on their economies.

[ando_bor]

The bridge to the Crimea is not afraid of anything, it is unique - it is the only bridge in the world that cannot be built.

[_Jack_]

if this is humor, it is incomprehensible, why is it impossible?

[Anton Boldakov]

It means that there were attempts to build it earlier and all ended in failure.

[Black_Vatnik]

Kiev threatens - this is how the speech of Klara Novikova should begin)

[pvv113]

the bridge will limit the delivery of goods to Ukrainian ports in the Sea of ​​Azov

Well, then let them dig up another sea for themselves, they’re not the first time

[Wolka]

I won’t be surprised if in the foreseeable future the Sea of ​​Azov will be an internal Russian

[nPuBaTuP]

You really decide ..... we are building a bridge or not building ....
And then in my parliament one tryndit, and we have another .... Does your people know what you require?

[Nemesis]

It’s time for Russia to send all the zarobitans home. Russia is not obliged and should not feed foreigners. Let Poroshenko feed his citizens. Enough to support the economy of patients with Russophobia of foreign countries at the expense and to the detriment of Russia.

[DenZ]

Oh come on. Zarobitchites are not all patients with Russophobia. Many of them are Russians living in Ukraine and have nothing to do with Russophobia. No need to wave a saber thoughtlessly.

[Nemesis]

Here you don’t have to defend your Ukrainian relatives ... She’s behaving very badly here .. They blame Russians and Russia for everything, arrange fights ... Let them understand at home, with their Poroshenko ... In addition, this whole audience exporting money from Russia, supporting the economy of Ukraine, which organized the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbas ... This is not right, this is unacceptable ...

[DenZ]

I don’t need to say how I personally feel about my Ukrainian relatives and I won’t tell you where to go. I have an excellent relative who never supports the current regime, and there are many people like them in Ukraine. In Ukraine, in addition to the LPR and the DPR, many Russians also live, but you probably have to part in those Russians with parting, as I understand it, and indiscriminately.

[private person]

You probably lay on those Russians with a parting, as I understand it, and indiscriminately at all.
Russians live in Russia. Under the USSR, life in Ukraine was better than in central Russia and they left there in droves, now let them live there and do not say that they are Russian. RUSSIANS LIVE IN RUSSIA !!!!!!

[DenZ]

Quote: private person

Russians live in Russia

Russians live all over the world! It is Russian in origin. Russians living abroad (especially in Ukraine) are far from always the enemies of Russia.

Quote: private person

Under the USSR, life in Ukraine was better than in central Russia and they left there in droves, now let them live there and do not say that they are Russian.

There were some, but this is not 100% of those Russians who now live in Ukraine.

Quote: private person

RUSSIANS LIVE IN RUSSIA !!!!!!

See point number 1 !!!!!

[private person]

There is an old Russian proverb: "Where I was born there and came in handy." So let these “Russians” live abroad, see point number 1.

[Nemesis]

But I am not interested in the opinion of the patriot of Ukraine, as well as other patriots of foreign states who have Russian citizenship ... Having citizenship of one country and being a patriot of another is mean ... Even in Kharkov, most of Bandera, because Kharkov bent under them and do not compare yourself with those who are fighting with Bandera and Mazepovism in the Donbass, you have nothing to do with them ... Your relatives pay taxes on the ATO, so she is an accomplice in all the crimes of Poroshenko ...

[Overlock]

on the drum this Kiev with its sanctions. The dog barks, the caravan goes

[Sergey53]

Late to drink Borjomi panov Okraintsy.

[ded100]

The threat has not yet grown!

[salad]

Sport Lotto is waiting for letters))))

[Kent0001]

I hope he has already been sent to a known address. Db.

[Anton Boldakov]

They came to their senses already when nothing could be stopped.

[ibn.shamai]

The banderlog policy is not how to raise a country but how much more shit to Russia! They understand that kirdyk is coming to Banderstan, and they are being expelled while there is an opportunity! Desovki!

[Nikolai Petrov]

The opera house, imprudent raguli, you have already decided: A bridge is being built or not being built, or it is impossible to build. Well, it’s impossible to build (according to Raguljache-Bandera flawed brain), so why the howl ?! Well, they’re building the "Damned Muscovites bridge that is impossible to build" again, what is the howl of the flawed? You already decide why whine! And better, dig a caches - in the near future it will come in handy, but it will not save the nerds.

[Kerensky]

And it’s fun to color the arches in the Russian tricolor, even a scow full of feces will not work!

[dvvv]

I didn’t understand the news ... Rotenberg is in charge there, who himself has been under sanctions for a long time, but I don’t know his company, but probably. Who else needs to be found out in his contractors and this is only a spyware method. And the point is in sanctions if the bridge is already mostly built and the most risky task where the foreign companies were hired to lift the arches is already completed. And what about Siemens and its turbines? It seems to have changed their minds in Crimea, but they won’t rotate? Sharks like Siemens will not be sanctioned. Ketai comrades who laid cables to Crimea did not suffer? In short, the news is about nothing

[igorspb]

Well, if it interferes, can it simply stop the flow of goods to these ports?)))

[private person]

Quote: Cutter

Nothing, Victor, we are not afraid. Nothing, because there is an older brother behind Russia - Russia! Yes! I will not lie - if anything, we hope - Russia will not betray (we are small!). But here we do not catch flies with our nostrils - Belarusians will stand as one wall, as before. And "Russianness" for us is not an empty phrase !!!

And Russia is hoping that Belarus will not betray. So they hoped they believed in Ukraine, and they had a thick bolt from under the bed.

[APASUS]

Dutch companies provided equipment for the construction of this bridge under the pretext of carrying out work on the side of Russia. But seriously looking at this whole question: I just can’t imagine that the outskirts could threaten the Empire. What's wrong with that?

[a housewife]

Just now in the program "Time" they said that he rushed to repent and ask for forgiveness of the Ukrainian Judas Filaret. He says a lot. He can hold his nose in the wind. That's all, the fast arrival of Russia sensed his nose. It doesn’t matter what their counselors will say there now.

[NF68]

This is a clear position of our American and European partners, this is a serious argument.

In this "partnership", the current Ukraine has a role / place similar to toilet paper in an American / European toilet.

[Sands Careers General]

As far as I know, the Chinese work there too. Is urine threatening them with sanctions too? Seriously?

[renics]

What fat will not give?

[LeonidL]

And the navel of Kukuev does not get loose threaten everyone?

[Altona]

This position was supported by the US Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch. According to her, the bridge will limit the delivery of goods to the Ukrainian ports in the Sea of ​​Azov. She stressed that this region is very important for the transportation of goods "on the way to domestic and international markets."
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What exactly? Are we building a bridge in the form of a dam?

[sgr291158]

Well, as small children, by golly. They complain to dad, they offended me, go beat them. The intestines themselves are thin, which is something to do.

[prior]

Kiev is in danger that the Khokhlak courts will be prohibited even from approaching the bridge.

[sibiryk]

... Kiev continues to bully Russia with US and EU sanctions over the construction of the Crimean bridge. The Minister of Justice of Ukraine Pavel Petrenko said that all the companies involved in the construction of the Crimean bridge ...

C'mon ... there’s no bridge and this is all the Mosfilm filming, and what kind of sanctions for the movie can be))) (sarcasm)

[gloomy fox]

pug barks at an elephant. The bridge will be built. Whether they want it or not.

[Alexander Petrov1]

And why should we build like the Bosphorus Bridge 70 meters, not 35 meters, so that NATO aircraft carriers come into our Sea of ​​Azov !? Look for a fool !?

[Romanenko]

Kiev?
Where is it?
Something I do not remember such a great power

[pafegosoff]

They will not give fat and moonshine, but will they drink and eat it themselves?