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Norwegian Defense Ministry: New F-35 fighter jets transmit sensitive data to the US

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New American fighter aircraft F-35, received in the Norwegian Air Force, automatically transmit the secret data to Lockheed Martin's servers in Fort Worth, Texas, said the senior consultant to the Norwegian Ministry of Defense Lars Giambl.


Recall that Norway is the first country to procure software from the US Air Force that provides the pilot with "extraordinary situational awareness." However, it quickly became clear that the 53-th package of support for the US Air Force partner programs contains a mechanism for automatically transferring secret data to Lockheed Martin servers.

Norwegian Defense Ministry: New F-35 fighter jets transmit sensitive data to the US


The Norwegian edition of ABC Nyheter cites the words of Lars Giambla about the need to develop a filter that excludes such phenomena. The senior consultant of the Norwegian Ministry of Defense compared the situation with the leak of information "from your iPhone to manufacturers".

As previously reported, the Royal Norwegian Air Force received from the United States the first three of the fifth-generation X-NUMX F-40 fighters manufactured by Lockheed Martin. In addition to these 35 airplanes, Norway has already pledged to buy another X-NUMX F-40 fighter for $ 12 billion.

Earlier, the Norwegian media reported that relevant hangars have not yet been built for the most expensive aircraft in the world, and the aircrafts will be placed in tents until 2020, reports A REGNUM
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  1. den3080
    den3080 30 November 2017 11: 36 New
    12
    Well, it’s hard to assume that they will transmit to the DPRK ..
    Moreover, Americans can turn off their planes if something goes wrong.
    1. The black
      The black 30 November 2017 11: 37 New
      22
      Norwegian Defense Ministry: New F-35 fighter jets transmit sensitive data to the US
      Friendship is friendship, but the leash should be short smile
      1. Going
        Going 30 November 2017 11: 45 New
        24
        And strict, and they thought that the USA was a partner.
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 30 November 2017 11: 48 New
          19
          The United States again proved to be a "rich customer." But the norgs were in the role of "1 hour profursetki." fool The most interesting thing is that this news will in no way affect the supply of the Fu-35 to other "partners".
          1. Going
            Going 30 November 2017 11: 53 New
            14
            No one asks them, and who the hell will come democratizers.
            1. figwam
              figwam 30 November 2017 12: 09 New
              +4
              Quote: Going
              No one asks them, and who the hell will come democratizers.

              Yes, nothing changes, FSA has interests in exchange for beads, now for airplanes, only all the rest are natives for them.
              1. Going
                Going 30 November 2017 12: 13 New
                +9
                Moreover, the price is set without economic justification.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 30 November 2017 17: 24 New
                  +1
                  By the way, the Pentagon already said that the US nuclear weapons could be used by the Pentagon against Russia in NATO countries, not only without any consent of the governments of these NATO countries, but even without their elementary notification.
                  The question arises. And how will this be done by the Pentagon technically if, for example, the United States Air Force planes themselves (the US contingent of the US Armed Forces in NATO countries) are not involved in this?
                  Reply. Then, most likely, it was only through computer programs controlled from the Pentagon that were installed on F-35 planes delivered from the USA, etc., for procurement to NATO countries!
                  1. Lycan
                    Lycan 1 December 2017 09: 23 New
                    0
                    Yeah - like, "with your hands, for example, Norway" to deliver a vigorous blow to the one who needs the Pentagon.
                    Convenient puppet tool. And it’s even more convenient to put these cars in Ukraine / Turkey (if it comes out of NATO): these are candidates for “black work”, and the war with their hands fits into the paradigm of clashing their foreheads (like the USSR and Fash. Germany, as different groups of Muslims, faced by Israel, as the national friction of Russian and local in the Baltic states (also not by itself)).
            2. sharp-lad
              sharp-lad 30 November 2017 23: 08 New
              0
              They already exist in the territories of the "allies." laughing I know by hearsay, I myself live in such a territory. sad
          2. The black
            The black 30 November 2017 12: 09 New
            +6
            Quote: Jedi
            The most interesting thing is that this news will in no way affect the supply of the Fu-35 to other "partners"

            Moreover, it will not affect the purchase of aircraft by the Norwegians themselves .... laughing They’ll buy as cute.
            1. SSR
              SSR 30 November 2017 12: 52 New
              +5
              Quote: Black
              Moreover, it will not affect the purchase of aircraft by the Norwegians themselves ....

              Well, the Norwegians are not cooler than the Germans in the person of Merkel and no cooler than the English cat, torn, they swallowed surveillance and then the USA will answer that this data collection is to improve customer service wassat
          3. Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell 30 November 2017 13: 05 New
            +7
            Quote: Jedi
            The United States again proved to be a "rich client" ... this news will in no way affect the supply of the Fu-35 to other "partners".

            Jedi hi I don’t understand why the Norwegians “make big eyes”? Pay - get it, but it was laid down originally. All so to speak, as agreed. Initially, there was no need to sit down at a table with cheaters, even if they call themselves "partners"
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 30 November 2017 13: 12 New
              +6
              Hi! hi This situation reminds me of a similar situation with Windows10. In it, too, dofiga of "Surprise" is sewn up for the user, and how many articles have been written about its independence ... wassat
              1. sharp-lad
                sharp-lad 30 November 2017 23: 19 New
                +1
                With alternatives, it’s still a bit bad, the rest of the OS require a lot of personal presence from the user, but when should I get my hands on VO? lol
        2. Slovak
          Slovak 30 November 2017 12: 47 New
          +1
          How can the master and slave be partners?
      2. dorz
        dorz 30 November 2017 11: 47 New
        +1
        Norwegian Air Force F-35 fighters

        They are pulling up weapons capable of carrying nuclear weapons to the borders of Russia.
    2. sir_obs
      sir_obs 30 November 2017 11: 59 New
      0
      No, they’ll just fly away to America, themselves
    3. okko077
      okko077 30 November 2017 12: 13 New
      +7
      Is that all that saw URITA? And we don’t have such systems on the SU-57, and we don’t have anywhere to transmit ... We don’t have systems on the ground that can receive this information ... We don’t have such systems in the project ... We don’t even have a clue about the need to create such systems ... Uriyayu, And Gerasimov and his General Staff including ..... Their F-35 penguin is already bad, but maybe this is the main thing and that's why it’s an airplane 5 th generation ??? And how many "+" instructed the shelters of the shelters ....
      1. Good Zsul
        Good Zsul 30 November 2017 12: 24 New
        +7
        did you drink yesterday?
        1. okko077
          okko077 30 November 2017 12: 36 New
          +6
          And drank and ate .. What is the difference between a pro and an amateur on the forum? Profi tries to find a rational grain in any information, and an amateur, following the simplest instincts, goes after the author, if it pleases him and he understands it, using superficial representations, without analysis ... One must think, at least sometimes ... Especially when write or ask questions.
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              1. Good Zsul
                Good Zsul 30 November 2017 12: 56 New
                +2
                In the army and in life you can do anything horrible, but not be a pro ..
                You don’t need to teach clowns, pros, clowns are smarter for a part ..... you don’t see the story well)))) For this I’m bowing, God forbid, how you * pro * will become !!!
          2. Slovak
            Slovak 30 November 2017 12: 53 New
            +3
            Pros, if you drank antifreeze and stuck in chocolate lard, then better not to stutter about the tests. It’s sucks, and conceit as a burp is not impressive ...
      2. Dym71
        Dym71 30 November 2017 12: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: okko077
        maybe this feature is most important and therefore is it a 5th generation aircraft ???

        Sorry, the question is the question, however, what do you think, is it possible for an airplane with such an “option” laughing consider a full-fledged military unit of the Royal Norwegian Air Force?
        1. okko077
          okko077 30 November 2017 13: 08 New
          +2
          One can be considered a unit, but not a fifth generation airplane. The 5th generation F-35 plane is made by the American global information system in which it is included .. In Norway, there is no such system, at least, such that it interacts with the F-35. They can use, if allowed, only the American system. This also applies to other countries buying F-35 ...
          But Israel already has something. And they modify their F-35s for their system, and even call them differently ... But we don’t have anything. Do not confuse with the information exchange system with other aircraft and KP .. I don’t understand the talk about our SU-57 aircraft, like a 5th generation airplane, without such a system .... All other signs of an airplane are controversial, although necessary ... Necessary, but NOT SUFFICIENT ...
          1. NN52
            NN52 30 November 2017 13: 21 New
            +8
            So the article is fake? Did I understand correctly?
            1. okko077
              okko077 30 November 2017 13: 36 New
              +2
              No, not a fake. Only at first you need to understand: is it an advantage or a disadvantage ... If you put aside the husk: Norway buys a plane that only the USA can, but rather will use, to the full extent ... Tricky, or rather, alas, a very smart move: and get someone else's money and use someone else's plane to your advantage ....
          2. Dym71
            Dym71 30 November 2017 13: 41 New
            +1
            Quote: okko077
            I do not understand much about our SU-57 aircraft, as a 5th generation aircraft, without such a system ....

            And I don’t understand where does the SU-57, in the news about him a word request
            Quote: okko077
            The unit can be considered

            Your statement is very doubtful. A simple example - the armed neutrality of the Schweizer Luftwaffe during the Second World War, will they also be able, if necessary, to put themselves in the Norwegian Air Force armed with the F-35?
            1. okko077
              okko077 30 November 2017 14: 06 New
              +1
              Neutrality is not set. This means doing nothing, they can. But the US coalitions will not be able to fight for their interest with the country on their F35 ...
              Su -57 remembered that he was also allegedly a 5th generation aircraft, but it turned out he had no main thing. We don’t have the information field itself, and therefore there are no systems for integration on board, for this non-existent field ..... And even if there is, then it’s not a fact that they’ll do it ... Here the MSTA has a target designation channel from ESU TK "Constellation M", but the system itself does not exist, it does not work at all, and does not work primarily in the information channel .... The system was taken into the trash by Hero Gerasimov. How many billions of delays .... buried in the sand ....
      3. NN52
        NN52 30 November 2017 13: 12 New
        +8
        Okko077
        Well, again, you are for the old ... Your favorite topic ....
        Would you better explain to me how it is generally possible, data transmission in flight from the operating system, from Norway to the states, is it really on an Internet? to the server? Well, I do not believe !!!!
        And does Norway have a common Information Field?
        And you swear here ....
        1. okko077
          okko077 30 November 2017 13: 25 New
          0
          You don’t have to leave links ... Can’t you yourself on the Internet? .. In Norway, no, that's me, just in case .... Work ....
          http://www.modernarmy.ru/article/321/perspektivy-
          sozdania-globalnoy-informacionnoy-seti-mo-ssha
        2. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 30 November 2017 23: 27 New
          0
          The Americans have a military global analogue of the World Wide Web, which includes all US allies.
      4. Sanichsan
        Sanichsan 30 November 2017 13: 42 New
        +3
        Quote: okko077
        And we do not have such systems on the SU-57

        what "such"? if you are talking about network-centric bullshit that kakos have been trying for unsuccessfully for two decades to realize, then thank god that not. their concept has already proved its non-viability and serves only to cut the dough.
        Quote: okko077
        So their F-35 penguin is already bad, or maybe this possibility is most important and therefore is it a 5th generation airplane ???

        Check out the requirements for a 5th generation airplane. with American requirements for the 5th generation and with Russian requirements for the 5th generation. be very surprised! they are pretty different. and by the way, according to Russian requirements, your beloved F-35 pulls a maximum of 4+.
        1. okko077
          okko077 30 November 2017 14: 16 New
          +2
          They came up with requirements for dummies, and they repeat like parrots ... A 5th-generation airplane can only be if it has the ability to work in a single information space ... Only then can it realize all its capabilities that are needed for a successful, long work in this space ... and which allows you to get an advantage over the 4th generation aircraft ... you can also include them there ...
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan 1 December 2017 14: 07 New
            0
            Quote: okko077
            For dummies, they came up with requirements, and they repeat like parrots ... A 5th generation airplane can only be if there is the possibility of working in a single information space ...

            and why not "only in the presence of super-maneuverability"? or lockheed maritin said so? laughing
            Once again, for the stubborn, get acquainted with the implementation of this very "common information space."
            it is not implemented by anyone! not in one army this system does not work. even in the USA there are only elements that have not been able to be assembled into a working whole.
            that is, by your logic, even in the USA there is no 5th generation aircraft.
            Well, will we change the "main feature of the 5th generation aircraft"? laughing
            1. okko077
              okko077 1 December 2017 17: 24 New
              0
              You know that LSIs are multi-level and consist of many subsystems that are nested inside each other, can unite or disconnect depending on many conditions ... The simplest element of a combat information system is a system ... But the plane is 5 generations, like a sensor of the Combat Information System ( it can be a weapon of such a system) has very great capabilities for receiving and transmitting important information through closed channels ... and satellites are also there .. You need to take this into account and have great computing capabilities of ground-based systems that work with it to use at least some of the information in real time for controlling weapons or other weapon carriers that are selected in the command and control center to ensure maximum efficiency ... As for combat information links, they are simpler and work within their established powers, and they are already significantly ... But we don’t even have such ones ... And those that can be slipped under such ones are not developed according to the general principle Pam on a general basis, providing interaction not only at the lowest level. but also at the highest in the future ... We do not have a concept, we do not have basic principles, we do not have a program .. Not with us, but with woodpeckers in the General Staff ... They did not even formulate such a task .. DO NOT UNDERSTAND .. . Therefore, UAVs do not work for us, therefore we do not have and will not have shock drones, there will be no 5th generation aircraft ... Is it clear now?
              1. Sanichsan
                Sanichsan 6 December 2017 14: 30 New
                0
                guy, ALOOO !!! wake up and go back to the real world!
                Quote: okko077
                Not with us, but with woodpeckers in the General Staff ... They didn’t even formulate such a task .. DO NOT UNDERSTAND ... Therefore, we do not have UAVs, therefore we do not have and will not have shock drones, there will be no plane 5 th generation ... now clear?

                it’s clear just now that you live in the forest. it is not clear where you got the Internet from there laughing
                UAVs are already working in full. Apparently you are one of those ideological who do not “watch TV” and that what is happening in Syria is not in the know.
                Who doesn’t have and will not have shock drones? they already exist in Russia. I'll tell you a terrible secret! even the Mujahideen have them and ukrovoyak, in short, everyone who has access to Aliexpress.
                Are you serious about communications ??? Are you trying to rub in us now that the maximum number of walkie-talkies in Russian aviation is, and even then they do not work?
                MDA ....
                Hard case...
      5. sabakina
        sabakina 30 November 2017 15: 42 New
        +5
        Quote: okko077
        or maybe this is the main thing, and therefore is it a 5th generation aircraft ???
        belay That sho was right now ???
        1. okko077
          okko077 30 November 2017 16: 12 New
          +1
          An insight for many dreamers .....
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 30 November 2017 16: 14 New
            +3
            Not funny, but more incomprehensible.
            Quote: okko077
            An insight for many dreamers .....
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 1 December 2017 00: 54 New
              +6
              Glory hi hi Well, what are you dull. If your TV drains the producers of what you watch when and how much time, then this is the 5th generation box, and if the iron drains through the outlet how much time it has been turned on, then this is a 4+ generation iron. lol drinks
      6. vrazhin
        vrazhin 1 December 2017 20: 12 New
        0
        ,,, maybe ..... maybe ..... ,,,,, .... Or maybe it's time to think with your own brains ???????
    4. Kent0001
      Kent0001 30 November 2017 12: 38 New
      +1
      For disenfranchised vassals, something cannot go somehow wrong.
    5. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 30 November 2017 13: 34 New
      +1
      I was looking for a source. On the ABC Nyheter website, Lars Giambla was not found. Norway received the first three aircraft only on NovemberNXX. I doubt that so quickly they found such a feature there. I can assume that this is a duck.
      1. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 30 November 2017 23: 35 New
        0
        If such "features" are laid in the control software of industrial installations for more than a year, then it would be surprising that they are not in high-tech weapons. hi
        1. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 1 December 2017 12: 44 New
          +1
          Quote: sharp-lad
          If such "features" are laid in the control software of industrial installations for more than a year, then it would be surprising that they are not in high-tech weapons. hi

          Apparently you did not pay attention that I questioned not "the absence of those (features) in high-tech weapons," but the possibility of finding such for two weeks of operation. hi
          1. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 1 December 2017 19: 36 New
            0
            When you get new equipment, you look closely, listen and try to feel into it! For counterintelligence representatives, this attitude doubles, triples and doubles. It seems that neither the United States nor the manufacturer was going to hide it. hi smile
            1. A. Privalov
              A. Privalov 1 December 2017 20: 25 New
              +1
              Quote: sharp-lad
              When you get new equipment, you look closely, listen and try to feel into it! For counterintelligence representatives, this attitude doubles, triples and doubles. It seems that neither the United States nor the manufacturer was going to hide it. hi smile

              We assume that the Norwegian counterintelligence representatives had better listening and empathy feelings than the British, Australians, and Israelis combined. drinks hi
              1. sharp-lad
                sharp-lad 1 December 2017 20: 41 New
                0
                At the expense of the Israelis, so they put their avionics, well, they could familiarize themselves and prepare in advance, so why make noise? At the expense of the Australians - well ..., they probably accepted the rules of the game and did not raise the issue. As if the British themselves did not participate in the creation of bookmarks and bugs. I'll pour it ....
                1. sharp-lad
                  sharp-lad 1 December 2017 20: 42 New
                  +1
                  Well, for our health! drinks hi
    6. dustycat
      dustycat 6 December 2017 07: 56 New
      0
      One of the F35 based in Japan lost a piece of the 40x60 cm skin.
  2. Azazelo
    Azazelo 30 November 2017 11: 39 New
    +5
    And everything rolls on our Kaspersky))))
  3. Serg65
    Serg65 30 November 2017 11: 42 New
    +6
    New US F-35 fighters arriving at the Norwegian Air Force automatically transfer secret data to Lockheed Martin's servers in Fort Worth, Texas

    what Well, you bach, Svein, an obscene woman, she also knocks on us !!!!!

    PS Corrected, so normal?
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 30 November 2017 11: 45 New
      +6
      Correct koment, otherwise it will be banned !!! hi
      Z.Y. Well done, next time - more attentively! wink
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 30 November 2017 11: 53 New
        +3
        Quote: Jedi
        next time - more attentively!

        Yes, I got it drinks
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 1 December 2017 01: 09 New
          +7
          Great, namesake hi Gee! laughing
          Well, you bach, Svein, an obscene woman, she also knocks on us

          The Viking vandals dried up, bought a rubber "product" stuffed with electronics. It is still puffing and groaning, at the same time it sends the video image to the sellers from the scene. And at one point, he will refuse to “accept” the new owner and declare - Top up the account, please, the subscription fee will be charged tomorrow. lol drinks
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 1 December 2017 07: 01 New
            +3
            And you, Seryon, do not get sick hi !
            Quote: Svarog51
            Viking piers have dried up

            laughing And where do they go, my friend? Their cowboys hold strongly for these very personalities, a step to the left, a step to the right - shooting on the spot, a jump - a provocation hi !
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 1 December 2017 07: 08 New
              +5
              step left, step right - shooting on the spot, jump - provocation

              It’s good to take my bread, I’m the trigger. And I had to be “lead-outs”. hi tongue drinks
              Threat. When will you change epaulettes to rear admiral? wink
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 1 December 2017 07: 17 New
                +3
                Quote: Svarog51
                When will you change epaulettes to rear admiral?

                laughing Is this a promotional offer ???
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 1 December 2017 07: 21 New
                  +5
                  And who says "83-85 served at the Black Sea Fleet" in their profile? good So let's change al do not know how? repeat
                  1. Serg65
                    Serg65 1 December 2017 07: 51 New
                    +2
                    what I served more .... encrypted repeat
                    Quote: Svarog51
                    So let's change al do not know how?

                    laughing With 7 planers to strive for admirals ???
                    what Moreover, I’m not a staff officer, but serving under the command of such admirals as Maximov and Orlov ( lol they have classic Russian used only for a bunch of Russian Latin), I'm afraid to break loose and as a result start again with a private bully
                    1. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 1 December 2017 08: 02 New
                      +5
                      Is this clear. So you do not know anything. laughing Well, do tads like this: click on your nickname, in the pop-up window at the bottom click on the "View Profile" button, then in the profile that opens, click on the shoulder strap at the top left and select the appropriate Navy. Seven "orders" is certainly impressive. I have only four and one bathhouse, the current is not the color of the shoulder straps it does not affect, I'm an infantry, albeit with aviation. wassat drinks
                      1. Serg65
                        Serg65 1 December 2017 12: 35 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Svarog51
                        Well do tady

                        Ah wai ... got a brother ... brother, you're a magician !!!! drinks
                2. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 1 December 2017 12: 46 New
                  +5
                  Well, now it’s immediately obvious - counter-amyral. good While you were hiding from me in the Autonomous Region, I read your articles. And my tactical plan has undergone significant changes. I remember, in one of the letters in a personal mail my mail to you. Write a few words, I will dedicate the rest of the operation. wink drinks
  4. Vasya Vassin
    Vasya Vassin 30 November 2017 11: 43 New
    +4
    Is this news for Norway ???
  5. newcomer
    newcomer 30 November 2017 11: 44 New
    +5
    have seen. a lot of arguing about this at the dawn of selling this “miracle”. patte, slavishly inserting “filters”, there is a guarantee, there are a lot of some “transmitting” bookmarks.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 30 November 2017 12: 24 New
      +5
      Quote: newbie
      have seen. a lot of arguing about this at the dawn of selling this “miracle”. patte, slavishly inserting “filters”, there is a guarantee, there are a lot of some “transmitting” bookmarks.

      Do you think in our fighters there are no such “bookmarks” that are exported? I’m not sure about this ... because this is an opportunity to get information during the teachings of the Indians and mattresses, where our SU-30s met with NATO fighters.
      1. Going
        Going 30 November 2017 12: 49 New
        +8
        I'd like to believe in it.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 30 November 2017 12: 59 New
          +5
          Quote: Going
          I'd like to believe in it.

          For some reason, many people forget, saying that mattresses are such ay-ay-ay, spying on their own vassals ... and we are white and fluffy in your opinion, I would like to ask? Nobody has canceled espionage.
          I am not saying that this is the case, but if there are such bookmarks in the F-35 (I suspect it also exists in other exported mattresses), why this cannot be in our exported planes ...
          1. Going
            Going 30 November 2017 13: 06 New
            +9
            With the software, everything is fine with us, but how do I not know with the hardware to use the enemy?
          2. _Jack_
            _Jack_ 30 November 2017 13: 25 New
            +1
            Not caught, not a thief
      2. newcomer
        newcomer 30 November 2017 13: 17 New
        +3
        NEXUS, deep down I hope so, with my brain I understand that this is quite within our power. Idians flew around the world according to all teachings with NATO. I'm not saying that we are fluffy, we are right.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 30 November 2017 13: 29 New
          +4
          Quote: newbie
          deep down I hope so, but with my brain I understand that it’s quite within our power.

          Vooot ... a nasty thought in my head is still spinning. I would like it to spit that the Indians are our strategic partners. So why are the mattresses bad and are we good? There is a question of military espionage and not a single country does not disdain this.
          I will say more, I will not be surprised that all sorts of such bookmarks are put not only on military aircraft. And, if so, then the idea immediately pops up that almost all Russian airlines use Boeings and Airbases ... there is something to think about.
          1. okko077
            okko077 30 November 2017 13: 47 New
            +1
            Nexus, you’re mistaken ... Our UAVs are so far controlled only up to 100 km ... This applies only to systems similar to "Svo-Alien." Opportunities that can be provided when our planes can not go astray with our air defense systems, etc., sold to other countries ...
          2. newcomer
            newcomer 30 November 2017 13: 52 New
            +3
            I don’t see any nasty thoughts in my head because why can I rejoice at the spy failure of the enemy? and since our scout, enemy is a spy. I think so.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 30 November 2017 13: 56 New
              +4
              Quote: newbie
              I don’t see any nasty thoughts in my head because why can I rejoice at the spy failure of the enemy? and since our scout, enemy is a spy. I think so.

              I’m saying that we do not disdain such tricks ... but the fact that the adversary got caught ... so it’s good.
              It remains our Boeing and Airbus for such bookmarks to shake and we will be happy.
              1. newcomer
                newcomer 30 November 2017 14: 03 New
                +3
                your words would be in the ears of our counterintelligence.
              2. okko077
                okko077 30 November 2017 17: 31 New
                +2
                Nexus, like a bullseye ...
                1. NN52
                  NN52 30 November 2017 21: 48 New
                  +8
                  Nexus, Oko O77

                  Of course, and all cars Amer, Japan, etc. shake on the subject of bookmarks ...
                  Suddenly they will go the wrong way ....

                  Check your cars. pzhl, worried about you, grandfathers ....

                  Have you accidentally not seen enough Transformers?

                  1. NN52
                    NN52 30 November 2017 22: 13 New
                    +8
                    And oko o77
                    Looked at your links ....
                    why does amer do it all not work in Syria? (I'm not talking about f 22 ...)
                    WHERE IS ALL THAT YOU SPEAK AND WRITE AT THEM ????
                    1. okko077
                      okko077 1 December 2017 12: 08 New
                      0
                      Good question !
                      Syria falls here, the P_ndos don’t fight there, they organize a war there ... But this is so, by the way ...
                      And not everything in this regard is obtained from them. They too strongly believed in the advantages that the use of information technology provides in the conduct of modern full-scale hostilities. And partly buried in the complexity and grandeur of their plans ... and they underestimate the opposition .. And they missed some simple combinations that can be used in local conflicts at low cost .... Yes, they have a rethinking crisis, in my opinion, but ambitions and money crush, and not the fact that they will stop and figure it out .....
      3. dustycat
        dustycat 6 December 2017 08: 03 New
        0
        Actually, for some reason I’m sure that it’s definitely not.
        Because this item is mandatory in the contract for the supply of equipment.
        Another thing is that the Yankees have traditionally been creative in interpreting clauses of contracts.
        Only imported workers put on imported equipment even blocks from the procuring party.
        At least in Russia for sure.

        This is for the Yankees customers who have no choice.
        Rosoboronexport customers have a choice from whom to buy.
        Remember at least you are boiling with the purchase by Israel of only the F35 fuselages.
        Israel nevertheless was forced to buy a full set of F35 and already had to gut them to install its equipment and they had a lot of difficulties because of this.

        Therefore, if there is a condition not to merge the information to the manufacturer except in authorized cases, then it is fulfilled.
        At the same time, this does not concern problems with a friend in the first place - the system does not merge someone else's information.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 November 2017 11: 48 New
    +4
    Do you like to ride, be prepared to share with those who sold sledges. It is strange that other buyer countries are modestly keeping quiet about this. Probably not yet finished?
    1. Going
      Going 30 November 2017 11: 55 New
      10
      It is not surprising if there is still a remote self-destruction button - a surprise.
  7. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 30 November 2017 11: 50 New
    +5
    New American fighter aircraft F-35, received in the Norwegian Air Force, automatically transmit the secret data to Lockheed Martin's servers in Fort Worth, Texas, said the senior consultant to the Norwegian Ministry of Defense Lars Giambl.


    Rejoice, Norwegians, that they do not update the software directly during the flight. smile
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 30 November 2017 11: 53 New
      +5
      Quote: Alexey RA
      Rejoice, Norwegians, that they do not update the software directly during the flight.

      I would like to see how, after updating the Fu-35 software, it will reboot right in flight. good wassat
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 30 November 2017 17: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: Jedi
        I would like to see how, after updating the Fu-35 software, it will reboot right in flight.

        "We ask the pilot to get out and get back into the car." smile
      2. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 30 November 2017 23: 38 New
        +1
        The amers themselves had this, though not in flight. lol
    2. dustycat
      dustycat 6 December 2017 08: 12 New
      0
      Not a fact.
      The cards are then poured.
  8. japs
    japs 30 November 2017 11: 56 New
    +7
    Is it possible to expect another from mattresses? They have any software, both civilian and military, knocking on any occasion "to the center." Before writing software, the "partners" discuss what information they will merge and where. For example, the latest generation of motherboards knock on three addresses: two servers in Silicon Valley and one in Canada. Even without asking anything about "user". It is wired in the motherboard BIOS.
    1. grandson of Perun
      grandson of Perun 30 November 2017 12: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: japs
      two servers in Silicon Valley

      Their valley is Silicon.
      And there are silicone sealants in men and implants in women wink
      1. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 30 November 2017 23: 40 New
        +2
        Silicon - silicon. Is it difficult to check in the dictionary?
        1. Galleon
          Galleon 1 December 2017 09: 38 New
          +2
          Silicon - silicium. Silicon is what the grandson of Perun wrote about. Take a look at the dictionary yourself.
  9. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 30 November 2017 11: 56 New
    0
    Quote: Alexey RA
    New American fighter aircraft F-35, received in the Norwegian Air Force, automatically transmit the secret data to Lockheed Martin's servers in Fort Worth, Texas, said the senior consultant to the Norwegian Ministry of Defense Lars Giambl.


    Rejoice, Norwegians, that they do not update the software directly during the flight. smile

    Well, this is just extended testing of an undershot at the expense of the client - Trump saves! laughing
  10. Sars
    Sars 30 November 2017 12: 03 New
    +1
    Erdogan, in terms of simplicity of soul on the F-35, nourishes hope.
    At the very first time, all these aircraft self-destruct.
  11. prior
    prior 30 November 2017 12: 10 New
    0
    In this case, are these planes Norwegian?
    Snowden warned .........
  12. sir_obs
    sir_obs 30 November 2017 12: 15 New
    0
    air cars will be placed in tents until 2020


    Unheard of outrageous violence against American technology!
    To expel all the norgs from the warm barracks and drive the unfortunate planes there, and if not, then immediately sanction, bomb the tents with the same planes!
  13. Orionvit
    Orionvit 30 November 2017 12: 42 New
    +2
    air cars will be placed in tents until 2020, reports
    There they will be visited by a thick polar fox. laughing In tents, or even in the open air, without consequences, only old Soviet, or new Russian equipment can be stored. Which was originally designed for this. lol
  14. Sergey53
    Sergey53 30 November 2017 12: 43 New
    0
    A casket with a secret turned out to be. And what will you do now?
  15. reservist
    reservist 30 November 2017 12: 59 New
    +1
    New US F-35 fighter jets received by the Norwegian Air Force automatically transfer secret data to Lockheed Martin's servers

    And not only the military, but also the civilian Boeings also automatically transmit information about the engines.
    Therefore, the Americans classified the data on the downed plane of flight MH-17.
    There a lot can be clarified not in favor of the USA ...
  16. Wedmak
    Wedmak 30 November 2017 13: 15 New
    +2
    contains a mechanism for automatically transmitting sensitive data to Lockheed Martin servers

    I now understand why this aircraft is so expensive, and why they pushed so many electronics and surveillance equipment into it. For the money of European satellites, the United States will also follow them. A military board equipped with an excellent reconnaissance complex, bought, piloted and serviced by "friends" in Europe, does not transfer data to the European Defense Forces, to its troops, but directly to the United States. And it’s not so much for Lockheed’s server as the Pentagon. And the campaign can also be remotely filled in with any desired program, right up to disconnecting the rebellious "partners."
    Super! Well done !!! This is just aerobatics!
    1. ARES623
      ARES623 30 November 2017 19: 30 New
      0
      Quote: Wedmak
      And it’s not so much on Lockheed’s server as the Pentagon

      It seems to me that in this design, Lockheed is a more "heavy" organization. And I think that, first of all, aircraft suppliers are not interested in the military thought of the norgs, but in the ways of “heavier” escort of equipment in order to more effectively master the Norwegian defense budget. It is not a secret that sometimes military equipment is specially sold, and not only military equipment, with a significant discount, so that you can get it at its service later.
  17. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 30 November 2017 13: 24 New
    0
    ... which proves that the Americans have advanced far in creating the concept of warfare in a single information space. Well done, what do you say ..
    Today, a plane with a pilot, tomorrow a flock of shock Drones .. technology is moving forward, with leaps and bounds. H [quote] [/ quote] something like that, we do? .. and the point is not that prosralipolymers, but in changing the concept of war, in principle.
  18. rocket757
    rocket757 30 November 2017 13: 27 New
    +3
    What a surprise belay
    Big brother here and there, for everything and everything is watching!
  19. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 30 November 2017 13: 30 New
    0
    Quote: Siberian barber
    ... which proves that the Americans have advanced far in creating the concept of warfare in a single information space. Well done, what do you say ..
    Today, a plane with a pilot, tomorrow a flock of shock Drones .. technology is moving forward, with leaps and bounds. H
    something like that, are they doing here? .. and the point is not that prosralipolymers, but in changing the concept of war, in principle.

    Of course, today, we will laugh at the wretched taxes that, having bought airplanes, they did not prepare the infrastructure. But they also got “bribes and sleeks" .. they were offered an offer that they won’t get away with. Ah, well done Americans .. (((
  20. ilkham77
    ilkham77 30 November 2017 13: 31 New
    0
    what is the secret information that it flies over Norway, so you can see everything from satellites who sat at the helm? all on x ...
    1. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 30 November 2017 13: 44 New
      +1
      It is not a matter of secret information, but of the ability to collect information and make quick decisions, in real time, with all the attendant capabilities
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 30 November 2017 13: 56 New
      0
      what secret information

      For example, radar data. Or the coordinates of places of interest. Or photographs of these places.
      The question is different, but what for do you even connect the on-board fighter computer to the Internet? I hardly believe in draining information in real time, in flight, on a satellite.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 30 November 2017 14: 00 New
        +1
        It is on the satellite, and it is in real time.
        1. The Siberian barber
          The Siberian barber 30 November 2017 14: 13 New
          +1
          That is the essence of the possibility of linking the actions of this “f” located above Murmansk with the current units in Syria, for example
        2. Wedmak
          Wedmak 30 November 2017 14: 21 New
          +1
          That is, there is a direct channel of reception and transmission to the satellite? And is this equipment put on exported aircraft?
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 1 December 2017 01: 44 New
            +5
            Denis, welcome hi In my car there is a simple DVR the size of a couple of matchboxes and then it has a bastard with a satellite, supposedly for positioning and indicating the speed mode. And where does he really merge Old about me - one manufacturer of this miracle knows. And here is the plane. Yes, there’s so much stuff. I won’t be surprised if a pilot in his standby mode can decompose the Spider on his monitor, or maybe even cooler. wink
            1. Wedmak
              Wedmak 1 December 2017 10: 19 New
              +1
              And where does he really merge info about me

              Your bastard probably has only a GPS receiver. He will not be able to transmit to the satellite due to the lack of the required power. I would be more worried about the smartphone in your pocket, here it 100% merges the Old - for fun, look at the history in your Google account. It describes in great detail where you were, how much time, car parking, your favorite shops, etc.
              And here is the plane.

              Well, the plane. The question is not whether this equipment is there - in the American versions for sure there is. But is it put on export cars? No matter how technology is quite critical, Americans are not stupid to expose such a possible autopsy.
              I won’t be surprised if in the standby mode the pilot can decompose the Spider on his monitor

              But I will be surprised. Military computers are fundamentally different from civilian ones. And not only the performance of microchips. The main difference in architecture. Real-time modes, error control, encryption. Most likely there are also RISC processors sharpened for only one or two tasks.
              1. Svarog51
                Svarog51 1 December 2017 10: 47 New
                +6
                Denis, welcome hi Yes, I was joking. All this is known to me. Therefore, I do not have a smartphone. I manage ancient Samsung, I do not like these modern gadgets. I need a phone exclusively as a phone, well, also as a pager, to receive SMS messages. Everything else is from the evil one.
        3. kirgiz58
          kirgiz58 30 November 2017 21: 17 New
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          in real time.

          And not at all afraid of North Korean hackers? laughing
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 1 December 2017 01: 50 New
            +5
            Boris, hi What is North Korean then?
            And not at all afraid of North Korean hackers?

            Russian hackers are already a trend. wink
            PS Here with you on the site recently nothing happened? tongue drinks
  21. afrikanez
    afrikanez 30 November 2017 13: 48 New
    +1
    Pies, pies, buy pies (F-35) - the truth is they are with "durbosol", but that's nothing. normal for suckers! lol
  22. tchoni
    tchoni 30 November 2017 14: 57 New
    0
    This is really a drawback. And a reason to think 10 times before taking a penguin.
    1. omit
      omit 30 November 2017 16: 04 New
      0
      tchoni
      And we thought, and took it. Put your patches, and everything will be OK.
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 30 November 2017 20: 06 New
        0
        Quote: omit
        tchoni
        And we thought, and took it. Put your patches, and everything will be OK.

        Yes, there, along the way, there will not be a living place from patches. Besides, how would kind striped uncles react to this? They, panimash, tried, and you - patches! Oh no no no! In addition, what could be the secrets of subordinates from superiors?
      2. tchoni
        tchoni 2 December 2017 15: 37 New
        0
        Quote: omit
        And we thought, and took it. Put your patches, and everything will be OK.

        And do you get access to the full amount of program code?
        Putting patches into a program is sometimes more difficult than writing it. I’m telling you like a little coding one ... Moreover, sometimes in my own prog program you won’t give why a piece of code is needed. And then someone else's program, and even not with full access.
  23. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 30 November 2017 16: 06 New
    0
    Quote: tchoni
    This is really a drawback. And a reason to think 10 times before taking a penguin.

    Why not??
    They are all in one clip. The goal, then, is one ..
  24. ARES623
    ARES623 30 November 2017 19: 21 New
    +1
    "New F-35 fighter jets on the Norwegian Air Force automatically transfer secret data to Lockheed Martin's servers in Fort Worth, Texas, said Norwegian Defense Department senior consultant Lars Gyumble."
    Gentlemen, Europeans, it would be time for you to understand that your main ally simply "raped" you in a perverted form, without even asking your desire .... "The problems of the Sheriff Indians are not interested." You are already beginning to cause pity and contempt. Well, how can you sit at the same table? Though even a meeting room.
  25. Vadim Sh.
    Vadim Sh. 30 November 2017 19: 34 New
    0
    What did they want? The Vikings thought they were partners, and, as shown, lackeys.
  26. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 30 November 2017 20: 01 New
    0
    Well yes. The pilot receives "extraordinary situational awareness." And with it, everyone. This is normal. What could be the secrets between partners?
  27. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 1 December 2017 10: 16 New
    +1
    The United States never does anything just like that, out of love for its neighbor.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 1 December 2017 10: 40 New
      +3
      Yes, no one in the modern world does not suffer from altruism!
      On the other hand, they are kind of like allies, friends, and what kind of secrets can friends have?
  28. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 6 December 2017 10: 34 New
    0
    Can it be that these short-lived turns expect that Merikaans will put their heads for them in case of war