Zakharchenko promised the Armed Forces of Ukraine a symmetrical response to the seizure of two villages

The DPR will carry out a symmetrical response to the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which lately, contrary to the Minsk agreements and with the connivance of the OSCE, launched an offensive and occupied several villages in the “gray zone”.

Since the OSCE believes that Kiev’s actions do not violate the Minsk agreements, but are only an improvement in the positions of the Ukrainian side, we, in turn, well remember the ancient principle - “there is no limit to perfection,” and, having adopted it, we will also begin to improve our positions, and then let no one be surprised at our sincere striving for perfection

- quotes the words Zakharchenko telegram channel WarGonzo.

Earlier, the deputy commander of the operational command of the DPR, Eduard Basurin, said that the seizure of the villages of Travnevoe and Gladosovo in Donetsk was regarded as a refusal by Ukraine from the Minsk agreements. Kiev, in turn, confirmed the taking of these positions.

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[esaul]

It would not be bad if Odessa and Mariupol were taken as a symmetrical answer. Tada junta sea ambitions get stuck in the throat.

[Sofa General]

They are waiting for the promised three years?

[Logall]

Zakharchenko said that there is no limit to perfection! Maybe after 3 years, improvements will reach Kiev ...

[Lelek]

Quote: Logall

Logall

, Alexander.
I will express my IMHO. Waltzman, after clicking on his nose at the EU summit, decided to show that he was the owner of the house and that the European bureaucrats did not give him a decree that the uncle with a goat beard was the main “husband” of the former Ukraine. This is confirmed by the latest statement by Walker after an urgent visit to Washington.

Well, it was under this mourning that the Kiev Tatis began their robbery raid. Interesting in terms of recent events on the “front end” is the failure of our “Justos” - Viktor Muzhenko, voiced by Basurin:

[Going]

Quote: Logall

Zakharchenko said that there is no limit to perfection! Maybe after 3 years, improvements will reach Kiev ...

This is a long time, everything should happen sooner.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Logall

improvements will reach Kiev ...

do they need it ????

[esaul]

Quote: Sofa General

They are waiting for the promised three years?

Well, if these words refer to Zakharchenko, then what prevents you from tearing the seat off the sofa and showing Zakhar how to respond?

[Slovak]

Do not tease, he honestly registered the name and surname.

[210ox]

Bring back at least these two. And without promises.

Quote: Sofa General

They are waiting for the promised three years?

[Kleber]

Quote: 210ox

Bring back at least these two. And without promises.

They are on the gray line.

[Kleber]

Quote: esaul

It would not be bad if Odessa and Mariupol were taken as a symmetrical answer. Tada junta sea ambitions get stuck in the throat.

Between Odessa and Donetsk regions there are four more regions)))) Zaporizhzhya, Dnipropetrovsk, Nikolaev and Kherson.

[esaul]

Quote: Kleber

Quote: esaul

It would not be bad if Odessa and Mariupol were taken as a symmetrical answer. Tada junta sea ambitions get stuck in the throat.

Between Odessa and Donetsk regions there are four more regions)))) Zaporizhzhya, Dnipropetrovsk, Nikolaev and Kherson.

Well and them. Trailer!

[Kleber]

Is logical. And the land corridor to the Crimea is ready. ))))

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Kleber

Quote: esaul

It would not be bad if Odessa and Mariupol were taken as a symmetrical answer. Tada junta sea ambitions get stuck in the throat.

Between Odessa and Donetsk regions there are four more regions)))) Zaporizhzhya, Dnipropetrovsk, Nikolaev and Kherson.

and they are all full of hatskraynikov !!!

[Jedi]

Quote: esaul

It would not be bad if Odessa and Mariupol were taken as a symmetrical answer.

That would be great. But it is unlikely that Zakharchenko meant it by the "pursuit of excellence."

[esaul]

Quote: Jedi

That would be great. But it is unlikely that Zakharchenko meant it by the "pursuit of excellence."

You perfectly understand that these words are a kind of trolling. Man has kept a sense of humor in such an atmosphere!

[Jedi]

Of course I understand, but how do the pots understand his words?

[esaul]

Quote: Jedi

Of course I understand, but how do the pots understand his words?

Power pots have long had an alarming suitcase in which diapers are on top. So - just in case. But they have no other choice but to grind their fangs - and so, and so on - krants. Pans in the trenches - they stand vraskaryaku - done the most can not, but there is little hope that they will forgive. Mirnyaku, in the bulk - poher. All the scribblers have already done that there is no turning back. But, already trying to change shoes.

[Lelek]

Quote: Jedi

Of course I understand, but how do the pots understand his words?

Hi Maxim.
I don’t know how you do, but I have the impression that the field chieftains command the APU on the front end, not the MOU and not the General Staff. Valtsman is busy with the EU and NABU, a dzhigit in red bloomers threatens with impeachment of the hetman, oligarchs are busy stripping the last flaps of skins from the plebs, the National Battalions marching to Kuev (December 3 on the nose), Kharkov and Odessa send the center to ... you know where, Julia with a "predatory hare" construct a mine under the hetman and the ASU. In general, the head is a sirkul. Well, here's how to determine the saucepan in this mess? In addition, "tear apart" with the closest friends (Poland, Lithuania, Holland, Hungary, Czech Republic, Belarus ...).

And then there's burnout on the propaganda field:

In general, everything is mediocre - between bad and very bad.

[210ox]

I agree that trolling can take place when a person can do something and he decides something in this situation, but in his case it looks unfortunately ridiculous.

Quote: esaul

Quote: Jedi

That would be great. But it is unlikely that Zakharchenko meant it by the "pursuit of excellence."

You perfectly understand that these words are a kind of trolling. Man has kept a sense of humor in such an atmosphere!

[Primoos]

If there is no answer, then the guys will be pressed against the Russian border with their backs. It is necessary to squeeze out impudent creatures to Kuev. To be discouraged.

[siberalt]

The symmetric answer will be the liberation of Mariupol and Slavyansk. But without
la la

[Piramidon]

Quote: esaul

It would not be bad if Odessa and Mariupol were taken as a symmetrical answer.

Well, if only to "TURN"
On the map, see where Mariupol is and where Odessa is. There Washington is just around the corner.

[Kleber]

Look at the map? And to remember weakly? Read the above.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Kleber

Look at the map? And to remember weakly? Read the above.

At one time, I flew all over the south of Ukraine. And I remember well where Mariupol, and where Odessa. Well, and how many (in your opinion) areas do you need to go (free) from Mariupol to Odessa?

[Kleber]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: Kleber

Look at the map? And to remember weakly? Read the above.

At one time, I flew all over the south of Ukraine. And I remember well where Mariupol, and where Odessa. Well, and how many (in your opinion) areas do you need to go (free) from Mariupol to Odessa?

Hard case. I repeat for the slow-witted: read above.

[esaul]

Well, to each his own. To whom - to lay down, and to whom up to the neck to sit in shit and be afraid to open your mouth - suddenly it will fall ..

[Piramidon]

Quote: esaul

Well, to each his own. To whom - to lay down, and to whom up to the neck to sit in shit and be afraid to open your mouth - suddenly it will fall ..

Flick on. Maybe likes from the same, not understanding anything in geography, boobies and pick up. But you have no concrete arguments to object to me. Only about throat and shit.

[the lord]

This is the case. when you have already been told about the printed above several times.
And as for geography, it’s like an anecdote - the commander gave the task to take Marik and Odessa, and we took it and took our time ... Ie they also grabbed the rest of the cities well, so as not to walk twice.
I hope the joke of humor became clear?

[Star]

And Nikolaev in addition. The Yankees would be described.

[RF man]

1. Are you planning to take part in the capture of Mariupol and Odessa?
2. What forces will you take - the current composition of the "armies" of the DPR / LPR or mobilize 100 thousand people?
Technical resources that is, a raid of 800 km?
3. What forces and where will you force the Dnieper?
4. Whom do you plan to send “without dust and noise” to take nuclear power plants in Nikolaev and Zaporozhye, and at the same time Dnepropetrovsk hydroelectric station?
"Musicians" are unlikely to master. Or ask Uncle Vova to plant people from the MTR?

All such commanders, when they’re not sitting in trenches and don’t substitute their own heads

[the lord]

1. Why skip such a holiday?
2. Of course, the more the better. Tech resources - is
3. Force where? And for what purpose are you interested in strategic info?
4. Do they have to be taken, or among the National Bats and Dryers, it is inadequately inadequate, so that they can rain radioactive rain on their lands in Lviv and Sumy? Here it’s just what matters when ours fought with the Chechens - there the question was the choice between two completely different civilizations - the Russian world and Wahhabism. There was undoubtedly a lot of implacable things. However, today the Chechens live quite comfortably and probably ask themselves the question, was it worth the fence? In the case of the Banderstat, an irreconcilable current in Bandera, which is not sacred for the majority of ukrov, it’s easy to betray for the sake of a quiet life. There is nothing to tear off the anus of the British flag from, and you can live under the Russian world (the rest of the Sevkavkaz are quite an indicator of themselves). So it will be possible not to release the nuclear power plants, they will leave it themselves.

[RF man]

1. Well, who really wanted to participate is already noted. Who wants to shoot heavily in Syria is going back to the fall of 2015.
2. The LPR / DPR has no resources. Although with the help of the neighbors, of course, everything is better than 3 years ago. Until now, they were in balance with our Ministry of Finance.
Or is it about the resources of the Russian Federation? So it’s not Crimea - it’s going to leave tens of times more money. Is there at least 50-100 billion bucks in the crib? -). It’s going to leave less on the database, then you still need to contain these “fruits of victory”.

[ghby]

Quote: RF Man

Is there at least 50-100 billion bucks in the crib? -)

And what is not 300-500? And how do they live without these 50-100 now?

[RF man]

What does "THEY" have to do with it? What shisham us to capture the territory of thousands of square kilometers? The war of money is worth it. According to our estimates, databases in Syria (essentially petty hooliganism) cost $ 1 billion per month.
And then it will be necessary to “integrate” both the economic and social spheres (over 5 million people live in the Zaporizhzhya, Nikolaev and Odessa regions)

[the lord]

And where do you get this in 1 lard per month? Instead of an estimate, they clearly counted the sheep before going to bed: just a little sheep, two little sheep))) What should be integrated in the protectorates if they themselves will organize everything, but under our strict guidance, so that the front can not be pulled to the west))))

[RF man]

Quote: znavel

And where do you get this in 1 lard per month?

What is the secret? Search the web for data from the beginning of the PAST YEAR. Even then, calculations began to lead. Moreover, they are quite detailed - including estimates of the cost of one departure and surcharges for servicemen for being in Syria.

Quote: znavel

Instead of an estimate, you obviously got a count of the rams before going to bed: once a sheep, two sheep)

It’s not easy for me to “palm off” the estimate - an economic education and decent work experience, including the calculation of investment projects. He was also an employee of the Federal Tax Service (taxation of profits and property of legal entities) and there is an auditor certificate.
In addition, I have an idea about the supply of army units and army life in general.

[the lord]

That's a funny thing - the cost of military operations is always a great secret, the disclosure of which can lead to many losses, and you have calculations and surcharges. Not MO, but a village mound, however ... baba-s)))))

[RF man]

Quote: znavel

the cost of military operations is always a great secret,

Yes, not so great. Not for nothing they say that 90% of intelligence is obtained from open sources. Gradually - month after month, year after year.
There is always some kind of data to analyze. Technical characteristics of vehicles, cost of fuel, data of the military themselves (the same sorties), salaries of military personnel and existing allowances for them.
EXACTLY, of course, they will NOT count, but at least the “starting! Amount” is easy.
And the maximum amount may vary significantly. factor of

[RF man]

Quote: ghby

And what is not 300-500?

If Uncle Vova decided to “annex” at least eastern Ukraine in 2014 (well, at least along the Dnieper), then he would have to spend ANOTHER more.

[the lord]

That's all I think, and why then did humanity conquer something throughout its history, attack someone, since it is all so expensive and unprofitable for the winners?

[the lord]

1. Not everyone was noted, because the situation began to stir up, but time gradually removes unnecessary and useless alternatives
2. Duck and ukrov no resources, except that abroad helps. That's only their foreign countries are not very motivational.
And we are talking about the Russian Federation and in the presence there are much more lousy 50-100 billion bucks, and the ability to do everything is several times cheaper than in the west, too. And why any liberoid and dill insist on the need to feed someone. They will feed themselves happily under the protectorate of the Russian Federation. Fortunately, there is a thousand-kilometer resort area and one and a half hundred million potential customers to hit the road to relax. Plus other miscellaneous ...

[RF man]

1. .

Quote: znavel

Not everyone was checked, because the situation began to stir up

Yes. there is. such.
2.

Quote: znavel

Duck and ukrov no resources, except that abroad helps

Well, on this occasion, I think that the APU has practically zero prospects. So - masturbation involved. It is a pity that people are dying because of this.

Quote: znavel

and there are much more lousy 50-100 billion bucks in stock

I don’t know what such conviction is based on. If there is anything specific, I will be glad to read it.

Quote: znavel

And why any liberoid and dill insist on the need to feed someone.

Apparently, you have a poor idea of ​​how and what a territory lives on, how its budget is formed, what it is spent on ..
At our place, even municipalities themselves sometimes have debts to other budgets ..
Just look for the area of ​​the Zaporizhzhya, Nikolaev, Odessa regions - and imagine that THIS needs to be taken ALL first, and then controlled. feed children in kindergartens and schools, release NEW textbooks., support the banking system.

Quote: znavel

happily under the protectorate of the Russian Federation

For a year now, I haven’t talked with citizens of Ukraine, but not everyone there loves Russia there.
Thousands of people from these regions, as well as from Dnipropetrovsk, Sumy, etc., were called to participate in the ATO.
"Westerners" there was a MINORITY

[the lord]

What is the basis for the belief in the availability of much greater resources - so far we showed about the Armory the other day — there are many bags in containers and the true value is unclear — they are measured by karai. And the gold and foreign exchange reserves of the Russian Federation - for 400 lard of the Greenwich.
Regarding the protectorate, this form is not at all friendly to ukrov, on the contrary, a form of protection for our economy. They themselves in this territory will solve their problems, simply without an independent foreign policy. And this is a much cheaper form of control and management than the sovereign introduction of these territories into the Russian Federation. At the same time, time will weed out and sprinkle dust with everything from the ukrobanderlady syndrome to the complete extinction of its carriers. So they don’t have to love Russia; they just don’t have to take too long to actively act on their land in order to free it for those who will still love Russia, and all the Western things within themselves will be obsolete.
Here we need a simple understanding that we cannot release these lands and these people to any place where they will make weapons against us and use these lands for military systems directed against us. We simply cannot stand such a strain and Siberia will not save us - there are far fewer suitable lands for living than on the Russian plains.

[RF man]

Quote: znavel

it is based on the belief in the availability of much greater resources- so here recently showed about the Armory

Well, they will not sell off reserves for a company in Ukraine.
Yes, and why? And so there are real chances that the territories will depart the Russian Federation. "Over the years". No cost to the "small victorious war" and thousands of corpses of our soldiers.

Quote: znavel

About the protectorate

One hell in a peaceful way NOW we will NOT implement it there. Only through the database.
And this is the cost and sacrifice.

Quote: znavel

under no circumstances can we let go there

No one needs them, except for MYSELF and the RF themselves. And without them there are many superfluous.
And so, up to 25-30% of the country in "work shifts" - who in Euroma, who we have ..
One saw a year ago in Samara, with Nikolaev - for more than a year he had not gone home. And there was a peasant with Summ, but he was on a business trip from the company

[the lord]

As for the fact that they will not sell reserves for the sake of Ukraine, I completely disagree, Ukraine as a resource and population costs much more, candles will not be wasted in vain. And why it is worth solving the problem through the DB - others can also do a lot from Ukraine and present us with a poppy seed barrel. The peace path is good when the dynamics of these peace processes are at a high level and brings positive visible results. But with us, so far everything is reminiscent of waterlogging - there is progress, but something doesn’t get into serious things.
And I meant the protectorate as a result of the database. Of course, it won’t work out in a peaceful way - the applicants will horn from the pit and will not allow much of their followers.
And the remark about the fact that nobody needs them and you can relax too naively. Yes, Little Russia we need much more than anyone. But here is a very important detail - those who do not really need them, can greatly spoil our fortunes and invest in the maximum split between us. And for the costs this is acceptable to them and quite acceptable, we won’t be able to beat them, ukraine will be enough for our eyes and ears full of breeches ... Here only the databases can break it down with any other one and break the game, and we can restore all our old connections and opportunities in this territory.
We can’t get away from a fight if we really want to establish a lasting peace within Russia.

[Ural resident]

Please ... Just not Zakharchenko.
According to him, they should have been sitting in Kiev for a long time.

[Baloo]

cut off the protrusions so that the militias do not get into the boiler.

[Altona]

Quote: esaul

It would not be bad if Odessa and Mariupol were taken as a symmetrical answer. Tada junta sea ambitions get stuck in the throat.

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Yes, towards the Black Sea and to the left bank of the Dnieper there is still a large reserve for the perfection of positions.

[bratchanin3]

How tired of this empty chatter!

[BAI]

Ukrainians organize defense everywhere. If he was captured by unprotected villages, then they will have to fight off the protected ones. Or even in the gray zone.

[Herculesic]

You, comrade Zakharchenko, do not give empty promises, for you already took Kiev six months ago in my opinion, from your own words!

[Eurodav]

Come on, Zahar! We are looking at you! It is necessary to teach pig farmers to the maximum! And then our couch fighters lost faith in you, or they say your saber got dull, then the gunpowder dampened, then they are sent to the Kremlin ... Do it beautifully and in a manly way, and to the horses for edification and to our all-crawling spite, let them bite themselves for something- sometime!

[foreman]

will reach Russia soon and he promises everything

[Normal ok]

Zakharchenko promised the Armed Forces of Ukraine a symmetrical response to the seizure of two villages

Entot alternatively thinking micro-oligarch periodically declares all nonsense. How much can you get on this?

[LeonidL]

Zakharchenko forgot the "golden rule" - The kid said - the kid did. Only la la la

[kefan]

So far, Zakhar has not kept a single promise in this regard.

[steelmaker]

A lot of "text". For the death of Motorola and Givi, he also promised revenge. Where did he come from this "hero of Russia."

[the lord]

Well, there’s one rapper in Marika, and the other in Kuyev, it’s kind of like they took off their cars on TNT equivalent. It seems like in response to our heroes. Although no one will know the truth there.

[Terenin]

There are words and there are actions. Zakharchenko answered correctly, and it is obviously not the time to act.

[RF man]

What is the difference what Zakharchenko says? About the same shift official, as in the LPR.
All the same, there is no strength to do something serious in the LPR / DPR. but ours doesn’t need it bitterly - it will come down and as it is
And in no Odessa our climb. And the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have enough forces for any “big war in the Donbas”.
And $ 650 million here will help them as a dead poultice.

[LeonidL]

All that you Mr. Zakharchenko promise, promise ... when will you begin to fulfill the promise? Three and a half boxes promised including the capture of Kiev ... You do not need Kiev, something with it, return the Donbass!

[RF man]

The leaders of the LPR / DPR can promise anything - they never had and NO resources for any serious offensive.
And the territories of the regions can return to their previous borders only if Russia is given a significant reason for intervention. At least at the level of fighters, "private traders".
Ours, in principle, has no interest in cleansing the current territories. It gives nothing.

[sgr291158]

It's time.

[Lexa-149]

What only Zakharchenko did not promise when Motorola and Givi died. And where?!

[the lord]

Two dead rappers in marika and kuev ...

[Volocha]

It is necessary not to promise, but to do and it is desirable to return everything with interest.