New Russian BMP for marines surpass the Chinese VN18

The wheeled prospective marine infantry fighting vehicle (BMMP), which is being created under the code BMMP Platform, will surpass the Chinese VN18, which has been said so much lately, which is similar in purpose, writes Messenger of Mordovia.

It is planned that the Russian amphibian will receive a gas turbine engine with a capacity of 1250 hp, which has proven itself well on tanks T-80U. “As a result, a vehicle weighing 30,7 tons will be able to reach a maximum speed of about 60 km / h on land. When moving on water with a sea wave of up to 2 balls and a wave height of 75 cm, it will be able to move at a speed of 37 km / h, ”says Lev Romanov's article.

According to him, the car will have a water jet and a special convertible body to reduce hydrodynamic resistance.

Fighting department BMMP - similar to that which is available on BMP-3. “The 100-mm cannon-launcher 2А70 is capable of using not only conventional shells, but also can launch guided long-range missiles. With it docked small-caliber automatic 30-mm gun 2А72 and machine gun caliber 7,62 mm. Plus two more machine guns of caliber 7,62 mm in front of the case, ”the author writes.

In addition to the crew on board can be up to 10 paratroopers.

The machine will be able to leave the landing craft at a distance of 40-60 km from the coast and at maximum speed go to the landing areas.

Comments

[Dezinto]

Of course, there was no better picture ...

[Leeds]

From the fact that the picture will be prettier for everyone, it should become easier, the fighting spirit will strengthen and do not care that this is so far only a paper model. It would be better if the bags were turned over.

[Per se.]

Quote: Leeds

that this is only a paper layout so far. It would be better to turn the bags.

The point, of course, is not in the picture, but in the idea. How much an idea is worth is another question. Very fresh time, where all Soviet things hayali, they wanted to massively purchase foreign equipment, including the Mistral-type UDC, as the spells repeated "over-horizon landing" ... And that, for Baltic, Caspian, even the Black Sea, this "over-horizon landing" " in which place? In addition to the “over-the-horizon”, another is not foreseen, a different technique is not needed, except for the projected parodies of the Yankee’s experiments, the BMP-3F is bad for its tasks, why it cannot for 60, especially 40 kilometers (or closer) to go to the sea and go at speeds in xnumx km / h? No, it is necessary to impose this crap, everything, as the Americans planned and the "planted" Chinese planing. Here, only, for a gliding effect, you need a relatively calm sea. During the Second World War, such “races” took place, when the German keel torpedo boats turned out to be more practical than the Tupolev G-10. To everything, for example, in Spanish UDC "Juan Carlos" for the equipment four tank-landing barges are provided (alternative to gliding monsters). If you want to add speed, "over-the-horizon landing", for this, firstly, you need to have the UDC itself. Secondly, air supremacy is necessary (reliable air cover, implying in a remote theater and an aircraft carrier). Thirdly, you need this place for the "over-the-horizon landing". Moreover, if this is an advanced enemy, and “over-horizon landing” will be a problem for us if it is “Papuan”, and for him the usual landing will come down. So who will get the head with this "sea miracle", armored amphibian, mediocre and at sea, as a boat, and ashore, as a fighting vehicle. I don’t know if fools or traitors are pushing it, is there any hidden wisdom, but it’s not clear why it’s impossible already now to arm your marines with the same BMP-5F, for your own tasks! ... Photo layout of the floating mastodon, which is prepared by our harsh guys (if the topic of the article).

[Couchexpert]

So it turns out that the funds are probably worth investing in the production of such gizmos:

which will land 8 normal infantry fighting vehicles. By the way, they seem to be going to start releasing them again soon:
http://flotprom.ru/2017/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%
D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0113/

[vlad_vlad]

I think we should refrain from using the future tense in evaluating something.

otherwise my future pocket annihilator will already spit noodles in the future from successes promised in the future.

[vkl.47]

And how will she turn the wheels if they closed their screens? Stupidly in a straight line?

[Evdokim]

Quote: vkl.47

And how will she turn the wheels if they closed their screens? Stupidly in a straight line?

Most likely in the tank, then left, then starboard. It will even be original, without analogues on the whole planet.

[Vladimir16]

The car will be able to leave the landing ships at a distance of 40-60 km from the coast

And then one and a half to two hours will be by sea to get to the coast ??? And this I calculated the maximum speed and calm sea. And how will the crew of a combat vehicle navigate on the high seas?
Why such difficulties ??? To prove that the car is better than the Chinese
And what will happen to the crew after a two-hour chatter in this trough in the open sea?

[Alex777]

With double fury, he will finally go into battle ...

[Vladimir16]

Pro rage is precisely noticed.
A coolie 60km!:, It's time to swing at the ocean and with a few refuelings to wave across the Pacific Ocean to the shores of America! The main thing is to do it before the Chinese

[Hammerlock]

at a distance of 40-60 km from the coast it is rather a patronage

[vlad_vlad]

horizon horizon at sea in my opinion 20-25 km. those. like that, they threw you into the open sea, you can’t see the land, and then on the compass and stars :-)

[Shkodnick]

7km sort of like it was

[vlad_vlad]

rummaged - found ...
1st column - Observer eye height
2nd column - range of visibility at sea in normal weather and normal vision

1 m 3,6 km 10 m 11 km 100 m 35 km 1000 m 112 km
2 m 5,0 km 20 m 16 km 200 m 50 km 2000 m 159 km
3 m 6,1 km 30 m 19 km 300 m 61 km 3000 m 195 km
4 m 7,1 km 40 m 22 km 400 m 71 km 4000 m 225 km
5 m 8,0 km 50 m 25 km 500 m 79 km 5000 m 252 km
6 m 8,7 km 60 m 27 km 600 m 87 km 6000 m 276 km
7 m 9,4 km 70 m 29 km 700 m 94 km 7000 m 298 km
8 m 10,0 km 80 m 31 km 800 m 100 km 8000 m 319 km
9 m 10,7 km 90 m 33 km 900 m 107 km 9000 m 338 km

[Mik13]

Quote: Evdokim

Most likely in the tank, then left, then starboard. It will even be original, without analogues on the whole planet.

And there are analogues ....



True, the series did not go. Where the machine comes from, it’s hard to get into the series now ...
This miracle was made on the basis of the T-64.

[nik-karata]

According to him, the car will have a jet propulsion

... probably with rudders.

[tasha]

Does it make sense to be surprised if the promising BMP does not surpass the equipment that has been in service since the 2006 of the year (in the basic version)?

[Stranger03]

Plague, now we are forced to catch up with the Chinese in military technology? Well done, Chinese brothers,

[rocket757]

We can say that we have survived, now we will compete with the Chinese ... but why, is it just a shot of design progressism, but do we need it? Is it necessary in the troops? It will be practical, and most importantly effective?

[Couchexpert]

It will definitely be at the parade if they make a couple of pieces for the experimental party.

[serriy]

We will also copy! To buy their military equipment (they have been transporting us another for a long time). Drones could buy, but probably shy ....

[Servisinzhener]

And what does the BMP-3 not suit? Why create menageries from scratch ?. Or BMP-3 has a fatal flaw, it was not created by the designers of the BMP Platform?

[Genry]

Quote: Servisinzhener

And what does the BMP-3 not suit?

BMP-3 is a machine optimized for operations on land and cannot travel long distances over water. It is unsuitable for over-the-air landing. How long will it cover 60 km of water and is there enough dark time for this day? Even children know about fuel ...

[Vlad.by]

Come on you!
Who said this prodigy will be realized?
The Chinese crowed, we found "specialists" who have it in one place - how do they have more speed. Let’s say that we are now faster, higher, and cooler.
Does our MP need this? Do we have amphibious assault landing ships? And do we have goals for such a landing?

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: Vlad.by

And do we have goals for such a landing?

"There would be an opportunity, but there will be goals!" You can always cannibals, pirates, drug dealers, etc. drive around the islands.

[da Vinci]

Especially for "cannibals, pirates, drug dealers" to build new landing ships and new BMP from scratch? Already everyone has provided footcloths from Versace and there is nowhere to put money?

[ProkletyiPirat]

but to others (Great Britain, France, Australia, Japan, the USA, etc., etc.) it is possible, but it is impossible for us? not no, I also want Schaub!

[da Vinci]

It is possible, of course, but it is better to show not an expensive Papuan toy from a palm tree, but a significant advantage to the most probable "partner".

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

I apologize to this poor presentation who did? !!!

[Fight]

The one who in the MO pictures from toys for news from Syria sculpts

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

it seems to me that children participated here, such a r ... even in the early 90s they did not sculpt

[Altona]

Quote: DEZINTO

Of course, there was no better picture ...

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The rendering god created apparently. In general, why all this Formula 1 in the BMMP class?
Congratulations to the Marine Corps on the occasion!

[donavi49]

Breakthrough from ship to shore. The faster it goes, the less time it will be in a vulnerable position and the more difficult goal will be for unsuppressed ATGM / artillery / tank calculations.

[Evil 55]

Some kind of nonsense .. Putting a very expensive and whimsical GTD into a floating infantry fighting vehicle is to doom the marines to long journeys by foot on horseback ..

[dvvv]

scribble about anything. In one place they write that the turbine eats 2-3 times more and is not needed on tanks, but here 60 km should sail by sea and dviglo is very suitable. And what about the Marine Corps in Russia and where should it sail as planned? It’s clear to the Ketais, Taiwan should take Taiwan’s darling or hint to the Taiwanese about such an opportunity, and Russia is going to swim where? In theory, there is a BMP 3F and it seems even nothing, maybe a great sea power will come down for its marines?

[san4es]

In March 2016, LLC "Center for Technical Cooperation" at MSTU. N.E. Bauman "filed a patent for seaworthy high-speed amphibian with a variable surface planing." The invention solves the problem of creating an amphibian with an increased speed of movement afloat, the document says. “The gliding BMP has two side flaps on the sides of the displacement hull, which can change their position using power cylinders mounted on the sides and connected to the controls.”

At the aft ends of these shields there are two controllable hydrodynamic surfaces that can also change their position. As stated in the patent, the invention allows to reduce the hydrodynamic resistance of the machine and enter the planing mode with less power required, to achieve higher speeds afloat, and also provides correction of the trim and roll of the machine during its operation due to the use of controlled hydrodynamic surfaces.

According to the developers, their design, unlike classic hydrofoils, only glides over the surface of the water and overcomes shallow water, which is inaccessible to displacement ships and hydrofoil vehicles. In the mode of movement by land, the side flaps and hydrodynamic surfaces are pressed against the side walls of the hull, providing it with additional protection. When entering the water under the action of power cylinders, the side flaps open. Due to the lifting force arising on hydrodynamic surfaces during translational motion, the amphibian rises above the water, reduces its draft, the hydrodynamic resistance decreases, and the machine enters the planing mode at a lower power requirement.

http://flotprom.ru/2017/МорскаяПехота3/

[Romario_Argo]

article copied
https://topwar.ru/90262-platforma-bmmp-dlya-morsk
ih-pehotincev.html
from 03 February 2016 of the year

[Eurodav]

Quote: DEZINTO

Of course, there was no better picture ...

I, too, damn it, fell out ... Together with my little one ...

[Eurodav]

Quote: dvvv

scribble about anything. In one place they write that the turbine eats 2-3 times more and is not needed on tanks, but here 60 km should sail by sea and dviglo is very suitable. And what about the Marine Corps in Russia and where should it sail as planned? It’s clear to the Ketais, Taiwan should take Taiwan’s darling or hint to the Taiwanese about such an opportunity, and Russia is going to swim where? In theory, there is a BMP 3F and it seems even nothing, maybe a great sea power will come down for its marines?

Well, in principle, reasonable! Some kind of unhealthy race begins between all against all ...

[Bratyshka]

Quote: DEZINTO

Of course, there was no better picture ...

If the MO is slowly but, unfortunately, true, turns into a site for preschool children, then the picture is beautiful, bright))))
If the MO continues to try to be serious, two options:
1. Make a separate topic (which is not important to name) and collect all the stupidity that is written into it, which by the way will allow preschool children on the site to practice this eloquence
2. Do not litter the site with stupidity
The second option is preferred)

[ProkletyiPirat]

MO does not turn into anything, just nobody needs special effects at the level of blockbusters in MO, and this diagram is done quickly and at the same time shows a three-dimensional model, thereby facilitating the understanding and assimilation of the material. Typhoons had the same models, and they did not interfere with the implementation ...

[Normal ok]

New Russian BMP for marines surpass the Chinese VN18

The question itself is humiliating. Is Russia now catching up with China in armored vehicles ??? !!!

[CAT BAIYUN]

The question itself is humiliating

I agree completely. Moreover, this is not a sporting event at all.

[Lenivets2]

“I haven’t seen a uglier horse yet,” only the Shell can argue with him.

[Per se.]

Quote: Lenivets2

"I have not yet seen a more ugly horse"

"Shell", it is normal, there is a "progenitor" of our BMMP ... EFV (Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle) (Russian Expeditionary War Machine) - an amphibious vehicle that uses the gliding effect when driving on water, was assumed for the United States Marine Corps.