Expert: Russia lags behind in the development of military UAVs on 5 years

Russia lags behind in the development of the military drones from the leading producing countries for about 5 years, reports RIA News Statement by Vladimir Voronov, Head of the Center for Advanced Study of the Kronstadt Group.

The backlog of about five years. Unfortunately, there are a number of problems in the general state of the industry. An unmanned system is not only an airplane, but also a communications system, a control system and a number of other high technologies. Their entirety must be at a high level so that the product is at the same level,

told the ravens.

According to him, it is very difficult to catch up without a certain state program.

Our competitors also do not stand still. The Kronstadt group reduces this lag. Our investor AFK Sistema strongly supports our work, so much so that it is impossible to demand more from them. If the state wants it to be, then we are here,

A company representative added.

According to the agency, 4 companies are currently working in Russia to create unmanned aircraft complexes: MiG, Sukhoi, Simonov Design Bureau and the Kronstadt group. They are developing a line of reconnaissance-drone UAVs ranging in weight from 1 to 20 tons.

Comments

[Dezinto]

Normally. We do tanks with a bang, but a normal car ....
I don’t understand, we are doing excellent airplanes, but drones aren’t.
How is that?

[Leeds]

Given the fact how many years ago the first strike drone hit a ground target, the expert felt sorry for us. Unfortunately.

[Kyzmich]

why do you RCC not shock UAV?

[midshipman]

Correctly noted. And they were ahead of everyone in the late 80s. I also remember the creation of the Mikoyan Design Bureau and the NII-33 UAV based on the MiG-23. It was created for TV observation of the battlefield. And our Buran (I was a member of the State Commission for its launch). Here are the economic reforms of tagged and drunk. Now we will catch up. I have the honor.

[Jedi]

Quote: midshipman

Here are the economic reforms of tagged and drunk. Now we will catch up.

There is nothing special to add ... We are reaping the benefits.

[Professor]

Quote: midshipman

And we were at the end of the 80's ahead of all.

Were not. Soviet drones then flew only along a given route and shot everything on a photo film. Just like in the 1930 years. There was no talk of any real-time mode.

The lag is about five years.

What is the order of such "5 years"? "About 5 years" I understand, "about 5 years" I do not understand.
The backlog is of course more than 5 and even 10. See what the 10-15 bourgeoisie had years ago and what Russia has today.

[ARES623]

Quote: midshipman

And we were at the end of the 80's ahead of all.

Yes not really? Well, it’s a saying from that time that "our microcircuit is the largest microcircuit in the world." And we also had the "largest submarine," because it did not fit into other missiles. We had an eternal problem with the element base, microprocessors. Maybe on Buran an extra “suitcase” is not a hindrance, but with the current UAV every gram of saved weight is golden. On the other hand, during the period of the 90s, we eagerly rushed for imported electronic equipment, which finally finished off our already not very powerful electronic production. Kudrin, together with the liberals, today demands to open our import market.

[ARES623]

Quote: Karen

In the USSR there were many creative teams. The institutes of S. A. Lebedev, I. S. Bruk, V. M. Glushkov - only the largest of them

I agree with you. But, on your desk, there is something not from the Russian Federation, you are not watching TV programs from the Russian Federation, and all the work of the above teams is worthless, if we were dependent on imports on the component base today, yesterday, and the day before yesterday. in military products. And even in space on our carriers a small "Chinese" flies.

[Karen]

They steal ... (s) :(

[ARES623]

Quote: Karen

They steal ... (s) :(

You have paranoia. You and your first deal with ....

[Karen]

Do not sprinkle salt on the wounds :)

[Vlad.by]

Good approach! We are launching the "Little Chinese." Is it bad that WE LAUNCH or that Chinese Little?
In case of urgent need, the problem with the elemental base will be solved with both ship and helicopter engines.
They do not decide - it means there is no urgent need and international cooperation is enough to ensure state support. interests.

[ARES623]

Quote: Vlad.by

Is it bad that WE LAUNCH or that Chinese Little?

Obviously, the Russian language is not your native language, so I’ll explain that the question about “bad” is not worth it. In my comment, the word "bad" is not there at all. There are realities of production and the level of technological advances in a narrow segment of science. We must not pour “water” about creative groups, but understand our place in the world “ranking table”.

Quote: Vlad.by

They do not decide - it means there is no urgent need and international cooperation is enough to ensure state support. interests.

That's right, they drove 19 satellites into the ocean, so someone really wanted to ...

[Alexey-74]

Under the USSR, the “Buran” was a drone ..... but here we can’t create a drone. Of course, 5 years by modern standards is a lot, but the main thing is not to stop ... and I really hope to catch up.

[vladimirvn]

If only for 5 years.

[ZVO]

Quote: vladimirvn

If only for 5 years.

That is precisely, we lag behind in aviation by 15-20 years in technology and 25-30 years in concepts and long-term planning ...

[shans2]

this F-22 is already 15 years behind even the Su-35), with Western degradants, OLS appeared only in the 2000s, while in the USSR already in the 80s. There are no OLSs on the F-22 ...

[Kyzmich]

How many years behind our Yak41 F-35B I modestly keep silent.

[Piramidon]

Quote: ZVO

That is precisely, we lag behind in aviation by 15-20 years in technology and 25-30 years

Just do not need pi ... (sorry that there is censorship). In what area of ​​aviation are we so behind, are you our Ukrainian liberoid? Few of you freaks in Syria got from our "backward" aviation?

[ZVO]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: ZVO

That is precisely, we lag behind in aviation by 15-20 years in technology and 25-30 years

Just do not need pi ... (sorry that there is censorship). In what area of ​​aviation are we so behind, are you our Ukrainian liberoid? Few of you freaks in Syria got from our "backward" aviation?

Hey, lush ... Call Haloperidol! And then you stink here ...
What is our counterpart to Ripper, GlobalHawk, X-47?
Huh? I can not hear...
Call a foolish one with no substance, I can send you uncensored to directories of aircraft ... Therefore, hide in the slot and do not shine with your racist statements ... Or should I complain about racism on the Internet? on your nickname? Division K - it will simply be obliged to find you - after all, the accusation of racism and racial hatred that you interpret in your opuses is very quickly resolved by them ... Look at the courts in judicial practice ... there are many of them ...
And I'm not Ukrainian or Israeli. Just like you need to be punished for the language that pomelo ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: ZVO

Hey, violent ... Or should I complain about racism on the Internet?

You, before you gush with your bowel movements, re-read your bunch of insults against me - this is the first. Second, I gave you your quote, if you forgot the Russian letters, I can quote again: "That's just behind in aviation for 15-20 years for technology and 25-30 years for concepts and long-term planning." Let it be known to you that drones are far from all AVIATION. Shalom, shout.

[ZVO]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: ZVO

Hey, violent ... Or should I complain about racism on the Internet?

You, before you gush with your bowel movements, re-read your bunch of insults against me - this is the first. Second, I gave you your quote, if you forgot the Russian letters, I can quote again: "That's just behind in aviation for 15-20 years for technology and 25-30 years for concepts and long-term planning." Let it be known to you that drones are far from all AVIATION. Shalom, shout.

Ochkuyut, Natsik ... Ochkuyu .. I will follow you ... For racism and inciting ethnic hatred ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: ZVO

Ochkuyut, Natsik ... Ochkuyu .. I will follow you ... For racism and inciting ethnic hatred ..

I'm already very scared, but even more funny, from your little comments. In Sportloto, perhaps, a snitch, unfettered. Yes, and buy binoculars to watch closely. D, B.

[Karen]

Quote: ZVO

Quote: vladimirvn

If only for 5 years.

That is precisely, we lag behind in aviation by 15-20 years in technology and 25-30 years in concepts and long-term planning ...

That's when Belenko hijacked a plane to Japan, the most demanded for us were the programs “Voices of America” about our planes ... and there also all ears buzzed with their stories about the backlog of Soviet aviation by 15 years. :)

[ZVO]

Quote: Karen

Quote: ZVO

Quote: vladimirvn

If only for 5 years.

That is precisely, we lag behind in aviation by 15-20 years in technology and 25-30 years in concepts and long-term planning ...

That's when Belenko hijacked a plane to Japan, the most demanded for us were the programs “Voices of America” about our planes ... and there also all ears buzzed with their stories about the backlog of Soviet aviation by 15 years. :)

F-22 and Su-57 - how old?
AFAR, Network-centricity, Link-16, NIF-Ka, GlobalHawk, Reaper, X-47 - name the analogues ... Just name the real operating models in service ...

[Karen]

Stealth was also considered invisible, and all control of all the flaps there was calculated by the onboard computer. Did it help?
______
About networketricity. The BTR-31 had everything for this ... they also did it here ... Koresh, near Irkutsk, was brought by helicopter for these works ... It was not difficult to transfer to aviation ...

[Sergey53]

For some reason, we are almost always the FIRST to develop, and then for some reason we are intensively catching up.?

[ML-334]

The head is working, hands do not reach, these, with sanctions, walk along the blade of the knife. If you press us and your hands reach, well, then rake again.

[askort154]

Microelectronics began to develop in the early 60s. We constantly lagged behind. (USA, Japan, Israel, India)) A sharp lag began in the late 80s and by 2007 reached 20-25 years. To make a glider for UAVs is not a problem for us. We have a problem with engines and, especially, with microelectronics. Now these issues are being intensively dealt with. A lag of 5 years already sounds encouraging.

[Professor]

Quote: askort154

To make a glider for UAVs is not a problem for us.

Problem. Likely to copy someone else's and ATTENTION !!! to tie wings with strings.




Unmanned aircraft is a serious matter, not a circle of aircraft modellers, as some here imagine.

[Victor-M]

Quote: professor

Lost copying someone else's

And you might think that you’re not doing this, for which don’t take it; all of someone’s copies have been converted by you to your loved ones.
Inventors damn it.

[Viktorfi]

Quote: Victor-M

And you might think that you’re not doing this, for which don’t take it

Israel has a lot of its developments, you just seem to have little understanding of what to write about .. Yes, and apparently the news of the world of technology does not look ...

But regarding one might think ..

Russia, like the USSR, the legacy of which Russia still enjoys, unlike little Israel, is ashamed to be in a similar state of lagging claiming high status among other countries ...

[Professor]

Quote: Victor-M

And you might think that you’re not doing this, for which don’t take it; all of someone’s copies have been converted by you to your loved ones.

Yeah. Kalashnikov's drone was ripped off.

Quote: ARES623

It’s just that in the adult state, a person creates something worthwhile in unmanned aircraft, in childhood, he should spend in an aircraft model club (or somewhere nearby, for example, in a ship model ...)

I do not agree. I won’t say anything for other countries, but in Israel, drone developers in the aero-model circles did not study due to the lack of them.

[Vlad.by]

Naturally! They all, well, or almost all of them studied in the Soviet circles of aircraft modeling.
By the way, there are no problems with communication, as the author broadcasts.
There are problems with the engines - yes! Russia rarely pays attention to something small. If you build, then it’s big, like DneproGES.
Well, nothing, we’re getting to the little one. A couple of years ago, the “backlog” was voiced at the age of 15-20, and, well, you are already 5.
At that pace, we will soon be in unattainable leaders!

[Kyzmich]

I don’t think that there is a problem with micro ICE.
They were mass-produced at the time from 0.8cm2 to 50cm2
And with electro too.
Rather, there is a problem with a mini-turbojet engine, and that is doubtful. -On our calibers are the same.

[ZVO]

Quote: Kyzmich

Rather, there is a problem with a mini-turbojet engine, and that is doubtful. -On our calibers are the same.

On the caliber is what they were able to redo from Amer’s WR-19, when ours were able to lift an experimental tomahawk from the water in the Caribbean ...

[ARES623]

Quote: professor

Israel, drone developers in aero-model circles did not study due to the lack thereof.

Just because many of them spent their childhood in the USSR with free mugs and sections. Holocaust victims have a tradition of stealing someone else’s ...

[ARES623]

Quote: professor

Unmanned aircraft is a serious matter, not a circle of aircraft modellers, as some here imagine.

It’s just that in the adult state, a person creates something worthwhile in unmanned aircraft, in childhood, he should spend in an aircraft model club (or somewhere nearby, for example, in a ship model ...)

[Kyzmich]

almost all of the leading aircraft designers and pilots are test pilots in the past, and at a high level.
O.K. Antonov at one time made a decision through the Central Committee on the special status of admitting aircraft models to aviation institutes.

[ZVO]

Quote: ARES623

Quote: professor

Unmanned aircraft is a serious matter, not a circle of aircraft modellers, as some here imagine.

It’s just that in the adult state, a person creates something worthwhile in unmanned aircraft, in childhood, he should spend in an aircraft model club (or somewhere nearby, for example, in a ship model ...)

Nonsense...
Only a gamer can become a pilot 100% using the potential of a 5th generation aircraft.
But never a pilot who grew up from Dosaaf ...
This is a fact.

[ARES623]

Quote: ZVO

Only a gamer can become a pilot 100% using the potential of a 5th generation aircraft.

Categoricality as a child on a pot ..... Bullshit is golem, there is nothing to comment ...

[ZVO]

Quote: ARES623

Quote: ZVO

Only a gamer can become a pilot 100% using the potential of a 5th generation aircraft.

Categoricality as a child on a pot ..... Bullshit is golem, there is nothing to comment ...

Read military doctors about the statistics of the transition of pilots from generation to generation ..
How many percent could become pilots of the Su-27 from the MiG-21 ...
How many pilots will fly on a Su-57 from a Su-30 ...
At the 5th generation, no more than 20% of the available pilots will be able to fly.
Therefore, they (5th generation aircraft) are so little bought.
For the pilot-ace for the 5th generation to prepare already only at the military school - are already incapable!
Already need the individual features of the gamer. in addition to health and military commissar ...
Too much electronics, too different.

This is no longer nonsense - it is already a fact.
If in the Russian Federation there is no such understanding yet, then it is already in the mattress.
They have almost 20 years of experience flying 5 generations.

[rocket757]

It's ridiculous! And will these gamers on Claudia empty their stomachs (they wanted to write more often, they didn’t give because the program is like that) will they? or in a face mask?
Take your eyes off Claudia’s sons and go see what, not such weak guys, future pilots, are leaving a centrifuge or a pressure chamber! I don’t offer to try, guess why?
In short, if he descends from the world of companion fantasies, to a sinful, but real land, it turns out that DOSAAF and the accompanying real physical training steers and for a long time it will be so.
Although ... we can I lagged behind something advanced and advanced in the pocket of gamers, anti-gravity is full ... or anti-overload, something that no one knows about yet.
After all, it’s difficult to distinguish a fantasy world from delirium, it all depends on the depth of “immersion” !?

[ZVO]

Quote: rocket757

After all, it’s difficult to distinguish a fantasy world from delirium, it all depends on the depth of “immersion” !?

Read military doctors about the statistics of the transition of pilots from generation to generation ..
How many percent could become pilots of the Su-27 from the MiG-21 ...
How many pilots will fly on a Su-57 from a Su-30 ...
At the 5th generation, no more than 20% of the available pilots will be able to fly.
Therefore, they (5th generation aircraft) are so little bought.
For the pilot-ace for the 5th generation to prepare already only at the military school - are already incapable!
Already need the individual features of the gamer. in addition to health and military commissar ...
Too much electronics, too different.

This is no longer nonsense - it is already a fact.
If in the Russian Federation there is no such understanding yet, then it is already in the mattress.
They have almost 20 years of experience flying 5 generations.

[rocket757]

Come on, for that Schaub pilots, in addition to physical training, should also be brainy, that's understandable. Harmonious development in many areas.
You would think, only the Yankees understand.
I will not argue that a gamer, something stunted, physically underdeveloped ... I met everyone, I still work in this area, but the preparation of a MILITARY pilot is like a very developed physicist.
Itself crawled out of the pressure chamber with the feeling that I would die! and the loads were very average, and the pilots there are "tormented" to the fullest !!! Hence the conclusion - a gamer is needed not such a frail athlete!
There are no contradictions here, and preparation, primary, in DOSAF will come in handy for anyone, like gaming skills.
It turns out that you can’t separate, you have to combine harmoniously!

[Kyzmich]

And what excited you so much in the strings!
It is a shock-absorbing mount and, during rough landing, protects the bearing planes from destruction. The aircraft model has been using it for several decades and has fully justified itself in practice.

[Professor]

Quote: Kyzmich

And what excited you so much in the strings!
It is a shock-absorbing mount and, during rough landing, protects the bearing planes from destruction. The aircraft model has been using it for several decades and has fully justified itself in practice.

Urgent patent and tie the wings with an elastic band and on civilian liners. By the way, see the rubber there is special, space. Able to remain as elastic and durable even in cold weather in minus 40 and in heat in plus 50.

[Eurodav]

Quote: ZVO

Quote: vladimirvn

If only for 5 years.

That is precisely, we lag behind in aviation by 15-20 years in technology and 25-30 years in concepts and long-term planning ...

Are we giving it to you?

[ZVO]

Quote: Evrodav

Quote: ZVO

Quote: vladimirvn

If only for 5 years.

That is precisely, we lag behind in aviation by 15-20 years in technology and 25-30 years in concepts and long-term planning ...

Are we giving it to you?

no. We work without days off and no nepotism ...

[donavi49]

I wonder how they counted and from whom. For example, Iran uses a Shahid-129 strike UAV - since 2015 of the year in real combat conditions. With the use of shock complex.

[rocket757]

In the USSR, we could and did lag behind in some positions, the leadership of the country had their own “cockroaches” in their heads, in the military sphere it was not critical, our designers did not have the wit and talent !!! And then for so many years of devastation and sale of everything and everything, we will hiccup for a long time to come.
Nothing, catch up and n ... do not give in or do everything in our own way, they will still envy.

[svp67]

Expert: Russia lags behind in the development of military UAVs on 5 years

The 80s, the 20th century, the NATO countries were 5 years behind. Then, it seemed, Russia was forever behind. Now the backlog is estimated at 5 years ... And how not to appear shock UAV. Although it is VERY necessary in all classes.

[Vlad.by]

Yes, there are drums already, though so far only on tracks.
But will fly soon

[Victor-M]

Expert: Russia lags behind in the development of military UAVs on 5 years

With advanced EW tools, drones are nothing more than a too expensive and useless toy. Therefore, this is a controversial issue, who is behind in what, who will produce more milk, meat or manure.

[Viktor.12.71]

And why have the Americans been developing a drone for near space since 1999, that’s awkward!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Victor-M

With advanced EW tools, drones are nothing more than a too expensive and useless toy.

And they are not for a big "right" war, but for local conflicts. Type of the same Syria - where UAVs are used for reconnaissance and missile defense, including for illumination purposes. There was a video from there - everything was lousy on the screen, and in the upper left corner the fawn remaining from the original recording was “LCD Backlight”.

[viktorch]

the question is how many years and from whom the Russian Federation lags behind in the electronic elementary base,
from this and dances in everything else,
we are now not in the position of catching up, in this position China is relative to the USA, the Russian Federation in the position of suck

[Dzafdet]

Quote: Viktorfi

Quote: Victor-M

And you might think that you’re not doing this, for which don’t take it

Israel has a lot of its developments, you just seem to have little understanding of what to write about .. Yes, and apparently the news of the world of technology does not look ...

But regarding one might think ..

Russia, like the USSR, the legacy of which Russia still enjoys, unlike little Israel, is ashamed to be in a similar state of lagging claiming high status among other countries ...

It’s just that 2,5 million former residents of the USSR escaped to this small Israel and dragged a bunch of technologies there ... I’m not talking about Martians in the government and in the country's leadership ...

[Viktorfi]

Quote: Dzafdet

But 2,5 million former residents of the USSR fled to this small Israel,

From whom did they run? Probably from a good life?
How much how much?

Quote: Dzafdet

who dragged a bunch of technology there ...

Yeah, just a bunch. Famous myth.

Quote: Dzafdet

I'm not talking about Martians in the government and in the leadership of the country ...

Ah ... without them you have no way. There is always someone to release their problems and anger at.

[St Petrov]

From whom did they run? Probably from a good life?

but I'm glad that you ran away. Handsome men!

[Vlad.by]

And you personally lived badly in the Union ???
But in Israel it immediately became good ???
Oh don't make me laugh!

[Vlad5307]

Quote: Dzafdet

Quote: Viktorfi

Quote: Victor-M

And you might think that you’re not doing this, for which don’t take it

Israel has a lot of its developments, you just seem to have little understanding of what to write about .. Yes, and apparently the news of the world of technology does not look ...

But regarding one might think ..

Russia, like the USSR, the legacy of which Russia still enjoys, unlike little Israel, is ashamed to be in a similar state of lagging claiming high status among other countries ...

It’s just that 2,5 million former residents of the USSR escaped to this small Israel and dragged a bunch of technologies there ... I’m not talking about Martians in the government and in the country's leadership ...

Yes, it’s not necessary to fuss so lagging behind is purely symbolic, it does not affect parity. The topic is under development and next year they will begin practical tests of their UAVs. And everything went through copying in due time. The omnipotent SGA was also not too lazy to copy the Soviet and experience, and they also never were ashamed to steal other people's ideas. So it’s too early to get upset over such a trifle - all the components for developing your UAVs are there, and the rest will come in the near future.

[Viktorfi]

Quote: Vlad5307

Yes, don’t need to fuss like that. The lag is purely symbolic.

Well, yes, in 10-20 years.
And no one fusses. Everything is fine.
Russia bought drones from Israel at one time ... More precisely, production under license in Russia.

Quote: Vlad5307

The omnipotent SGA was also not too lazy to copy the Soviet and experience, and they also never were ashamed to steal other people's ideas.

This is yes, everyone steals and uses. Soviet scientists removed some of the Soviet scientists who worked for them, rocket technology borrowed, etc. The US is also well taken from the Germans of military technology after the war.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Viktorfi

The US is also well taken from the Germans of military technology after the war.

Ja, ja ... for example, the father of the American cosmonautics in natural habitat:

[ZVO]

Quote: Alexey RA

Quote: Viktorfi

The US is also well taken from the Germans of military technology after the war.

Ja, ja ... for example, the father of the American cosmonautics in natural habitat:

Can you name the real father of Soviet cosmonautics here?
Alas, but this is not Sergei Pavlovich.
And Helmut.
Helmut Gretgroup.

[ARES623]

Quote: ZVO

Can you name the real father of Soviet cosmonautics here?

Your colleague on "Pinocchio" near Kopeysk shed tears, and you there too. Read the memories of Boris Chertok, maybe that comes up ....

[ZVO]

Quote: ARES623

Quote: ZVO

Can you name the real father of Soviet cosmonautics here?

Your colleague on "Pinocchio" near Kopeysk shed tears, and you there too. Read the memories of Boris Chertok, maybe that comes up ....

Read where Chertok was in during the end of the war ... in the spring of the 45th ...

[ARES623]

Quote: ZVO

Read where Chertok was in during the end of the war ... in the spring of the 45th ...

And who was Panikovsky before the revolution?
Grettrup led the development in parallel with the Royal as a counterweight. Because his work on the Royal or under it was impossible for fundamental reasons. Everyone (I mean the curators of the Korolev and Grettrup projects, but actually they themselves) fully understood that the Korolev project, but not Grettrup, would be accepted. So Helmut is not suitable as the fathers of Soviet cosmonautics. In the history of the creation of the R-7, its participation is not visible. Chertok in the group of Grettrup was his deputy and the watcher. In this case, dad is the one who is actively working for mom. Grettrup in this process played the role of Playboy magazine, lying under the sofa - sort of in the subject, but out of work.

[viktordark]

Our UAVs are the same as in the USA or Israel and we are not behind them, and on the battlefield with a serious electronic warfare of the Russian Federation or another country their UAVs are useless, which confirms the landing of one of them in the Crimea
so it’s not fearless for us that the Predators are not the Reapers, they simply won’t even fly to launch a rocket or a bomb, and anyone can bomb them with undeveloped camps.

[chidoryan]

Well ... if our expert “honestly” recognized the backlog by five years, then we multiply by three times. Howl about EW ridiculed, well, let's fight with spears, phalanges, phalanx no EW is terrible!

[Vlad.by]

Not ours, but your expert.
And not to multiply, but to divide.
And do not fight the phalanges, but to extinguish electronic warfare all receiving equipment. And then - at least with spears, at least AKM, at least with the Coalitions

[chidoryan]

If you divide, it turns out that we are not far behind, and in some respects we surpass foreign analogues! 111 It’s more bad to listen to you, so on any barrel about high technology you have a three-letter plug - EW. Well, let's not develop anything high-tech at all, but we have electronic warfare! Apparently, your receiving equipment in your brain has been extinguished for a long time;

[Vlad.by]

And when did we drink at the Brudershaft, son?
Do not run up, you will get change in the same boorish tone.
And in the case - EW of course does not belong to high technologies?
Or is high technology only foreign? Are you an expert who personally wrote about a specific lag in years? Why are you tearing a shirt on your chest, accepting other people's words on faith?
And turn on your head? Back in the USSR there was a Bee and Tu-143 Flight. Do you really think that it’s difficult to put modern data transmission equipment on them to ensure the transmission of digital pictures and the coordinates of detected targets? And to make control more noise-resistant? Even at the level of our, domestic, "low" technologies? Yes Easy! Both cameras and a side-view radar with a synthesized aperture - all this is.
But for some reason they don’t start mass production. So, indulge in the Eagles and Owls.
So there are reasons for that.
And most likely, this is precisely the problem of countering electronic warfare. Since we know how to clog control channels and land UAVs, then the enemy, probably also knows how. And for the Papuan rut, drones will go, but for a serious mess, this is not a panacea. So do not rush, looking for breakthrough, "high" solutions. Asymmetric, as fashionably expressed. And, be sure - they will find it! And they’ll let me into the series.

[Shahno]

You only answer one question or two. What has changed in your approach to the fund. and applied science since the beginning of the century - financing, equipment high. level, state support. What are the speed and quality of the implementation of high-tech projects in production. Marketing? And preferably examples ...

[rocket757]

Oh, oh, stepped on a long callus!
If something develops here, it is contrary to, and not according to. So it’s hard to expect great achievements ... however, part of the people are no longer waiting for development.
And here figs to you, there will be a holiday on our street !!! - I worked for a patriot

[Vlad.by]

Would you like to say that Israel’s achievements in the construction of UAVs are associated with a sharp jerk in

Quote: Shahno

approach to the fund. and applied science since the beginning of the century - financing, equipment high. level, state support

??

[rocket757]

The armament market context as well. They drove on time, but the idea was literally in the air!
They did, they are developing production and technology ... everything is fine.

[rocket757]

The country has problems, besides embezzlement, bureaucratic lawlessness, incompetence ... and further on the list. Now it affects that many talents escaped from difficulties and industry destroyed the foreign and domestic goats.
So why are they now attacked and worn out over the same hill, and again, the internal enemies are AFRAID that RUSSIA will once again take a leap forward and show everyone the same, al, our native KUZKIN'S MOTHER !!!
Priorities are set, the armed forces will be strong again ... if anything, the aggressor will be defeated.
Paphos, by the way, in fact, the most necessary thing is done first and hands reach the UAV, give the deadline ... if only the priorities and power have not changed!

[fuch]

"Our competitors are not standing still either. Kronstadt Group Reduces This Backloge. Our investor AFK Sistema strongly supports our work, so much that it is impossible to demand more from them. If the state wants it to be, then we are here,
added a company spokesman. "I think the comments are superfluous. Only business.

[ver_]

Quote: midshipman

Correctly noted. And they were ahead of everyone in the late 80s. I also remember the creation of the Mikoyan Design Bureau and the NII-33 UAV based on the MiG-23. It was created for TV observation of the battlefield. And our Buran (I was a member of the State Commission for its launch). Here are the economic reforms of tagged and drunk. Now we will catch up. I have the honor.

.. I don’t think it will take a lot of time .., not from scratch .., there are enough gliders, both friends and strangers, and even at the stage of * fine-tuning * many different * models * ..

[Kyzmich]

Quote: professor

Quote: askort154

To make a glider for UAVs is not a problem for us.

Unmanned aircraft is a serious matter, not a circle of aircraft modellers, as some here imagine.

Just do not talk about aircraft models.
You can’t imagine just how much air modeling is a serious matter at the champion level.
Many aircraft designers today are serious aircraft designers and pilots.
And the main mistake of our "egg-headed" from aviation is a contempt for the baggage of technology and knowledge that were cultivated in an aircraft model environment.
This is especially true for small UAVs.
You are just not in the subject.
Many of your army UAVs are very much like aircraft models initial level of design for students.

To enlighten your mind, I advise you to get acquainted with the Russian team on RC models RusJet- absolute world champions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC4jG-wuVoc

[ARES623]

Quote: Kyzmich

Many aircraft designers today are serious aircraft designers and pilots.

A person who spent his childhood in a circle of technical creativity has more motivation and skills, both physical and creative, in order to choose the work of a design engineer as his main activity. And if a child since childhood did not hold anything except a computer keyboard and mouse, then it is unlikely that he will wake up craving for bolts and nuts. A gamer is a person working on an already finished product, a modeler is the creator of his toy. The difference is fundamental.

[Kyzmich]

Quote: professor

I do not agree. I won’t say anything for other countries, but in Israel, drone developers in the aero-model circles did not study due to the lack of them.

Here it is not necessary to lie and offend Israeli aircraft models!
I can answer you from a professional point of view as an instructor - an aircraft modeller (and who has become one already in Israel).
Two large organizations are engaged in aircraft modeling in Israel (We will not consider small private circles, although they also exist):
(1) Gadna Avir Air Force. The main emphasis is on the technical side of the matter and on preparation for service in the Air Force (as UAV operators). Accordingly, they will mainly build radio-controlled motor models (International Classification F3A, F3D)
(2) Israeli Aeroclub ("Hateuf le Israel Club"). The main emphasis is on the sporting events of modellers and, accordingly, all types of models are popular, although the most popular are uncontrollable models (International Classification F1A-C, known in Russia as A1 and A2 type models). By the way, Israeli aircraft modellers get results at competitions which are far from “ordinary” Israeli athletes, including European and world championships.
You can probably find out about Gadna Avir on the Air Force website. As for the Aeroclub, if you tell me which city in Israel you live, I can tell you if there is a branch of this organization.
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Wasteland you are a professor, judging by your "strings" you are clearly not in the subject.

[Kyzmich]

Theme with combat UAVs for our Sun is the topic of cutting money.
Entrance to this club "sawers" is very limited.
In Russia there are at least a dozen private UAV manufacturing and development companies.
But hell didn’t dare get into these budget squabbles as general lackeys and, in addition, receive the status of travel abroad.
They have everything in order with the sales of their UAVs and comes to idiocy when ours buy our own UAVs from foreigners)))