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Russians should not participate in the UN mission in Ukraine, insist in Washington

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The US administration insists that if UN peacekeepers are deployed in the Donbas there are no Russian citizens among them, reports TASS Statement by US Special Representative for Ukraine Kurt Volcker




Earlier, Volker had already advanced the thesis that the UN security mission should have freedom of movement throughout the Donbas and control the Ukrainian side of the border with the Russian Federation.

And recently, he said that Russians cannot be involved in the UN mission.

The contingent should have access to the Ukrainian-Russian border and not have in its composition any Russian personnel,
quotes the Volcker newspaper The Washington Post.

At the same time, Volker stressed that he intends to "continue to negotiate a settlement in the east of Ukraine." He has already held several meetings with the Assistant to the President of Russia Vladislav Surkov.

“He (Volker) stated that the peacekeeping plan gives the best hope for a return to“ Minsk-2 ”,” adds the newspaper.
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  1. Livonetc
    Livonetc 27 November 2017 11: 15 New
    23
    The Russians will not be in the mission.
    Like the mission itself in this scenario.
    1. Finches
      Finches 27 November 2017 11: 21 New
      11
      Show this arrogant American clown the documentary "Cast to Pristina", if he is of course capable of drawing historical parallels in his intellectual development ...! laughing
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 27 November 2017 13: 29 New
        +2
        Quote: Finches
        Show this arrogant American clown the documentary "Cast to Pristina", if he is of course capable of drawing historical parallels in his intellectual development ...!

        Let me remind you 2014
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 27 November 2017 13: 35 New
          +2
          UN units dividing the parties to the conflict must satisfy "neutrality" to both sides. Kiev will not want to have Russians, Donbas will not want to have NATO and the EU. This is clear.
          Wishlist American officials are irrelevant.
          But I doubt that the United States will allow such units without NATO troops. So, these troops will not be at all.
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 27 November 2017 16: 02 New
            +2
            Quote: Shurik70
            But I doubt that the United States will allow such units without NATO troops.


            Hey. It seems so. It means a dead end, but NATO needs a bridgehead in / in the former Ukraine. Now it already has 5 training camps and an office in Kiev on this territory. So they will be quiet glanders and continue to launch their tentacles. In addition, the rearmament proclaimed by Waltzman and the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine according to NATO standards. In general, NATO (read the United States and comrades) is already at hand and Ukraine is for them ONLY the territory for a possible attack on rebellious Russia.
      2. Slovak
        Slovak 27 November 2017 16: 07 New
        0
        He himself suggested, he denied it. It is clear, after all, that they are not friends with logic, and indeed with the head, so, Zyablitsov, don’t mark the beads before ... the Americans
        1. Finches
          Finches 27 November 2017 20: 59 New
          +1
          The position does not allow the beads to throw far - so small town ... laughing
    2. Sofa General
      Sofa General 27 November 2017 11: 26 New
      +3
      There are two options in which the mission can be without Russian citizens: Serbia and South Ossetia :)
      I think that their peacekeepers in this case are not the worst option.
      1. Antianglosax
        Antianglosax 27 November 2017 12: 53 New
        +6
        We can agree, under several conditions:
        1. Not a single American military should be on the territory of our outskirts.
        2. Not a single Natava military should be in this mission either.
        Then why not? smile
        The unprecedented arrogance of amero-geeks and the omission of our miserable bosses are very amazing.
        1. Don
          Don 27 November 2017 22: 57 New
          0
          Quote: Antianglosaks
          The unprecedented arrogance of amero-geeks and the omission of our miserable bosses are very amazing.

          If Russia had created something similar on the border with the United States, then our leaders would, to put it mildly, ofigel of this. And so, according to Darwin, the weak die out, but not immediately, fortunately
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 27 November 2017 11: 26 New
      +8
      Walker thinks a lot about himself. Who will allow him to control the Russian border with LDNR. laughing And in general, it’s high time to evict Huga with his assistants from Donetsk. Let him live in the territory of occupied Ukraine. Sense from him like a goat's milk.
    4. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 27 November 2017 11: 32 New
      11
      I translate from Volkner’s "diplomatic" language to the usual one - "Block the border with Russia, send in American troops under the guise of a mission, do not let Russians in." And then do what you want. They want to arrange something like a reservation, which will be called the Minsk-3 type.
      How can one not recall the brief description of the two words given to them by Lavrov.
    5. vkl.47
      vkl.47 27 November 2017 11: 36 New
      +4
      There, the aydar and the basics will simply put on helmets with the inscription UN and they will shoot everyone
    6. Vend
      Vend 27 November 2017 11: 44 New
      +2
      The whole world remembers how the attack on Ossetia and the Russian peacekeepers ended. They do not want to be in the same situation. Now it’s clear that they want to establish a bloody bath in Ukraine.
      1. Kleber
        Kleber 27 November 2017 12: 48 New
        +1
        If the militias do not arrange a blood bath for them, that is also an option.
        1. Vend
          Vend 27 November 2017 12: 56 New
          +2
          Quote: Kleber
          If the militias do not arrange a blood bath for them, that is also an option.

          If there are no Russian peacekeepers, then there will be a repetition of Belgrade in Donetsk and Lugansk.
          1. Kleber
            Kleber 27 November 2017 12: 58 New
            0
            It will not be, the Russian troops are nearby .... not just raise the topic of mobility.
            1. Vend
              Vend 27 November 2017 13: 04 New
              0
              Quote: Kleber
              It will not be, the Russian troops are nearby .... not just raise the topic of mobility.

              This is not the territory of Russia, but another sovereign state, and the LPR and DPR are not recognized. Russia is not an aggressor.
              1. Kleber
                Kleber 27 November 2017 13: 06 New
                0
                Under Yeltsin your words would be very convincing, under Putin not.
                1. Vend
                  Vend 27 November 2017 13: 08 New
                  0
                  Quote: Kleber
                  Under Yeltsin your words would be very convincing, under Putin not.

                  You want to say that Russia is an aggressor? We are in Syria by invitation, unlike other countries.
                  1. Kleber
                    Kleber 27 November 2017 13: 16 New
                    +1
                    What are you clinging to with your aggressor in the Rada chtol floors wash? In 2008, no one invited our troops to Georgia either.
                    1. Vend
                      Vend 27 November 2017 13: 36 New
                      0
                      Quote: Kleber
                      What are you clinging to with your aggressor in the Rada chtol floors wash? In 2008, no one invited our troops to Georgia either.

                      Oh how you spilled laughing The first thing an angry person does is remember what is closest to him. laughing Nothing to write nonsense. Let me remind you that Russia entered Georgia behind the retreating Georgian troops that attacked Ossetia and Russian peacekeepers. And Tbilisi did not take Russian troops, although they could easily do so.
                      1. Kleber
                        Kleber 27 November 2017 13: 51 New
                        0
                        Quote: Wend
                        Let me remind you that Russia entered Georgia. behind retreating Georgian troops


                        Who writes nonsense? ))))))))
    7. Pax tecum
      Pax tecum 27 November 2017 17: 57 New
      +2
      In Former Yugoslavia, Bosnia, UN peacekeeping forces failed the mission in the end. But Russian local Serbs, and not only there, were glad. For many, the hope for peace and justice was connected with the name of Russia. But, the collapse of Yugoslavia is a working model for the collapse of Russia. Starting from 1991-1993 in Russia to Donbass now.
      I mean, without going into details and details, that the UN forces do not have full-fledged combat forces and means to resolve major conflicts. All that is needed is a resolution (a legitimate start) for the introduction of troops, and then as standard proven methods using the example of the Former SFRY: the UN is not able to cope, but NATO is a full-fledged military unit, not a dedicated UN contingent (albeit from many countries, but there UN standards), claim the role of peacekeepers. And then you’ll pick up the base of their horseradish. The story is before our eyes.
      Only Russia and Belarus, together, the military-humanitarian contingent! But, under the auspices of an international organization (yes even the CIS-CSTO, there would be a desire to supplement the constitutional documents).
      In their Slavic lands, the ancestral home of the United Russian People, they themselves need to restore order, and not to foreigners and foreigners to be greeted. And, ideally, it’s not possible to bring the whole History to the mess of blood, to the joy of the beaten, by us basurman.

      Well, the "general people" in power have frankly gotten by, showing only concern.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 28 November 2017 10: 19 New
        +4
        They did what they wanted, tore the country up as they wanted, our peacekeepers, for all that, couldn’t do anything, they saved people as they could. Many thanks to them for this, but politicians couldn’t or didn’t want to, God be their judge.
    8. gaura
      gaura 28 November 2017 10: 00 New
      0
      Of course, there will be no mission in this scenario. How much stench was about the "Russian bombing of civilians" in Syria. Some resolutions were passed. Everything broke off, and now we have lost the war in Syria - Assad must remain, ISIS turned into a fascist, and the United States did not even invite to the division of laurels. It will very likely be the same. they sneak and then merge, although it can be problematic to expel them from Ukraine. But how do we know what will happen in two or three years
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 28 November 2017 10: 23 New
        +3
        We pushed the Yankees and K, like they have nothing to do here ... but they know about it. realized or will they crap to the end? And victory will have many creators and it doesn’t matter what it really is. The media will present how they need it and we can’t prove anything ... that’s how it should be, this world is theirs, I hope so far !!!
        1. gaura
          gaura 28 November 2017 10: 29 New
          +2
          It is true that the media will change everything, the Wehrmacht is already being whitewashed. But for now, you need to at least stop the war and normalize life among the Donbass people
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 28 November 2017 10: 42 New
            +4
            I agree to all 100%. I need peace.
            For the sake of this, one must speak, bargain, and even concede, not according to fundamental provisions, but ambition aside, that's for sure.
  2. Primoos
    Primoos 27 November 2017 11: 15 New
    +7
    What a tricky one this pin.dos. Outwitted everyone. It seems to him. So primitively impersonating that you wonder. Do not ride his dreams. Let him roll his lip.
    1. Elena Zakharova
      Elena Zakharova 27 November 2017 11: 18 New
      +7
      My suggestion is as follows.
      If we introduce the ONN contingent in the Donbass, then I propose introducing the Panfilov division there.
      And not any amers, Germans and others.
    2. alexmach
      alexmach 27 November 2017 12: 14 New
      +4
      In practice, this means what?
      - They are still not ready for constructive negotiations.
      - no peaceful solution to the problem is foreseen in the near future and, probably, sooner or later, a new escalation should be expected.
  3. Logall
    Logall 27 November 2017 11: 16 New
    +9
    If the Russian contingent of the UN will ensure security, then Croatian events will not be repeated! What the United States is afraid of ...
    They have already paid for Donbass, they want it for themselves ...
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 27 November 2017 11: 25 New
      +3
      I feel that the topic of peacekeepers in the Donbass has safely "hung" ...
      1. Going
        Going 27 November 2017 11: 30 New
        +8
        She was successfully curtained and pretend to be discussing.
  4. avia12005
    avia12005 27 November 2017 11: 18 New
    0
    Yes, and let in the Donbass there will be no Russians as part of peacekeepers. But they will be in such a mission on the shores of the English Channel. Overdid ...
  5. Nemesis
    Nemesis 27 November 2017 11: 19 New
    +4
    Your whole Ukraine is on the map of 1654, and there you have it ..... The United States wants to repeat the Kosovo Serb genocide in the Donbas ...
  6. solzh
    solzh 27 November 2017 11: 25 New
    +1
    The UN mission in the Donbass will not be. The junta must begin to carry out Minsk-2 or shoot herself, otherwise they will be provided with a new Nuremberg.
    1. Sofa General
      Sofa General 27 November 2017 11: 58 New
      +3
      Are you going to provide Nuremberg?
      Nuremberg - it was an international tribunal. And as far as the situation is now - except the Russian Federation, no one wants to judge the junta. So leave your thoughts aside, it will not be Nuremberg. Maximum - they will be buried by their own curators. ALL.
      1. solzh
        solzh 27 November 2017 12: 08 New
        0
        Are you going to provide Nuremberg?

        Invite, I will.
        except the Russian Federation, no one wants to judge the junta

        It's enough. If it is not enough, then Russia will be able to agree with the BRICS countries. In any case, Russia would have a desire, and it would not be difficult to create an international tribunal.
        1. Sofa General
          Sofa General 27 November 2017 12: 16 New
          +2
          Speak enough? That's what I look at the desire of Russia is taken into account, even I would say predicts ...
          MBYuT does not tell you anything?
          The Serbian military is still being tried - and the desire of Russia in general is NO.
          Drop your emotions, they are only good in dealing with women, and politics requires a cold head.
          Russia will not agree with BRICS on this issue. From the word "no way"
          PS And on what basis should you be invited to this tribunal? Based on your opinions based on news and emotions?
          1. solzh
            solzh 27 November 2017 12: 47 New
            0
            The Serbian military is still being tried - and the desire of Russia in general is NO.

            In addition to the degeneration of its concern, did Russia have a desire to help them?
            Drop your emotions, they are only good in dealing with women

            Three ha! You are like an adult, not a teenager, you should know that emotions with women do not help.
            Russia will not agree with BRICS on this issue. From the word "no way"

            This is your opinion, in this case I don’t see the point.
            And on what basis should you be invited to this tribunal? Based on your opinions based on news and emotions?

            I don’t understand, are you jealous that you will not be invited there? At least on emotions.
            Sincerely.
            1. Sofa General
              Sofa General 27 November 2017 12: 52 New
              +2
              Absolutely no envy. Even if we hypothetically assume the existence of such a tribunal, I have nothing to do there, either as a witness or as a prosecutor. I am not a lawyer, not an investigator or inquiry officer.
              Further. And why did you suddenly decide that Russia will now have a desire to judge them?
              1. solzh
                solzh 27 November 2017 13: 54 New
                0
                If I am not mistaken, in 2015, the DPR and LPR authorities called on the UN Security Council to create an international tribunal to investigate war crimes in the Donbass. It is clear that the UN will not do this, but let's recall the stories with dictators such as Videla and Pinochet. There are precedents. It remains to be decisive in this matter. But there is no decisiveness, that’s the main problem, as I see it. Under Nuremberg, I meant the trial of the Nazis, but not the international tribunal, because patrons of the junta will in every way prevent this at present.
                Europe little by little begins to show its dissatisfaction with Ukraine. And if we now show decisiveness in this matter, then in a couple of years, Europe will be ready to give up the Kiev junta. It's my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong. Sincerely.
                1. Sofa General
                  Sofa General 27 November 2017 14: 04 New
                  +1
                  Will be ready to give - but so that without a COURT. To dig on quiet sadness - no more. They, Europe, do not need a court. That's the whole song.
                  1. AlexKP
                    AlexKP 27 November 2017 14: 41 New
                    +1
                    How is Gaddafi?
  7. Pacifist
    Pacifist 27 November 2017 11: 30 New
    +2
    Russia is not a party to the conflict. There will be us, there will be no mission. Degenerates from the United States this was voiced in plain text. The presence of peacekeepers on the border of the Liberal Democratic Party and Russia are wet State Department dreams. Will be smoked.
    1. Ren
      Ren 27 November 2017 11: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: Pacifist
      on the border of the Liberal Democratic Party

      Smiled, only to Wolfovich about this, no laughing
  8. DenZ
    DenZ 27 November 2017 11: 35 New
    0
    I wonder how he can legally support his desire not to see the Russians in a mission in the Donbass. If it's just his Wishlist let them yourself (well, then you know)
  9. Tektor
    Tektor 27 November 2017 11: 36 New
    0
    Washington definitely should not be there. And without our peacekeepers, it makes no sense to introduce the forces of separation, because the war does not stop. It is clear that peacekeeping forces should be introduced not so much on the territory of the DLNR as on the front-line territory occupied by the Armed Forces, as only this will guarantee the absence of shelling. Everything else - baseless Wishlist ..
  10. jetfors_84
    jetfors_84 27 November 2017 11: 38 New
    0
    “He (Walker) stated that the peace plan gives better hope for a return to Minsk-2.”

    And to start Ukrainians, he did not try to kick? After all, nothing has been done during this time. But only about the border whining.
    And for every Walker we have our own Bolter!
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 27 November 2017 11: 41 New
    +4
    In general, the Yankee Wishlist was played out of tune!
    I just want to say if they would go ... to Kudykina Mountain, but it’s a pity, however, that people will have to bargain.
  12. Sergey53
    Sergey53 27 November 2017 11: 44 New
    0
    And what is so categorical. Are you afraid that it will not work in Kosovo?
  13. 1536
    1536 27 November 2017 11: 53 New
    0
    What is the "mission"? There are Minsk agreements; the Ukrainian side does not comply with them. The Americans have nothing to do with it.
  14. tagil
    tagil 27 November 2017 11: 57 New
    +2
    I don’t understand how these bad people got into the Minsk process, pushing the French and Germans back. How we let them and why. With the United States, we generally have nothing to talk about in Ukraine, as well as in Syria. They must by all means be excluded from any processes, under any contracts.
  15. anjey
    anjey 27 November 2017 11: 58 New
    0
    without Russians in Ukraine there will never be order until the US State Department is in charge ...
  16. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 27 November 2017 12: 18 New
    0
    Surprisingly, Surkov is again “in action” and it seems that the result can be predicted in advance ...! In general, how Americans together (led by the UN) with the indifference of Russia and especially LDNR will be able to place their so-called "peacekeepers", because the whole world knows how they conducted "peacekeeping" "on the bones" of Yugoslavia and they continue to dream that the people of Donbass will meet them with flowers ?! Most likely "cloves", "acacia" and other representatives of this flora "from the cycle of art flora")! Or do they think that the Russians will allow such a disgrace in relation to their (Russian) people in the Donbass! I doubt, however ... But is it not time for these bargainers to chew on, what their dog thing about what is happening in the Donbass is enough for them to "cheat" in Kiev!
  17. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 27 November 2017 12: 21 New
    0
    Wishlist has grown, however.
  18. faterdom
    faterdom 27 November 2017 12: 23 New
    +2
    The circle is closed. Poroshenko sweetly dreamed out loud about "UN peacekeepers" in NATO uniform on the border with Russia. True, he should modestly keep silent with whom they should separate. Russia suddenly supported the introduction of UN peacekeepers in the format in which peacekeepers should exist: between parties to a military conflict and from the armies of neutral countries.
    Now Walker again out loud already sets the conditions on this issue, copying the erotic dreams of Poroshenko. So, there will be no such "UN peacekeepers" there. And in case of aggravation, I hope, of useless blind observers of the OSCE. Well, “Minsk-3” too - only complete and unconditional surrender.
  19. Berg berg
    Berg berg 27 November 2017 12: 24 New
    0
    NATO countries should also not participate in the UN mission in the Donbass, as well as their vassals! On the historical borders of the republics, only those whom the republics themselves trust should be present.
  20. Siberian
    Siberian 27 November 2017 12: 27 New
    0
    Good grass is now ugly on the beds of the white house.
  21. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 27 November 2017 12: 37 New
    0
    The result will be one - there will be no Russians, there will be no UN mission.
  22. pvv113
    pvv113 27 November 2017 12: 38 New
    +1
    US administration insists

    Stop insisting, better bite the corn hi
  23. gurzuf
    gurzuf 27 November 2017 12: 53 New
    0
    I wonder who will allow them to go there. Morons @ la!
  24. olegator
    olegator 27 November 2017 13: 20 New
    0
    The stupid arrogance of pen_dos already just rolls over ... Or the arrogant stupidity ...
  25. VadimSt
    VadimSt 27 November 2017 13: 52 New
    0
    Without direct discussion with LDNR, all these negotiations are an empty phrase! But on NO and implementation - NO.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 27 November 2017 13: 57 New
      +3
      Yes, they can extort a resolution, it won’t work, that's for sure!
  26. Vend
    Vend 27 November 2017 14: 15 New
    0
    Kleber,
    Read about the five-day war.
  27. bsk_una
    bsk_una 27 November 2017 15: 32 New
    0
    And hehe no huh? And p.i.nd.s.os.s.e generally place on your mainland, do not pop into the back seat.
  28. BLADFROST
    BLADFROST 27 November 2017 16: 40 New
    0
    Mr. Walker has always been involved in mouse fuss! So he is a mouse! And mice are banally poisoned!
  29. ausmel
    ausmel 27 November 2017 17: 52 New
    0
    Want is not harmful
  30. Eurodav
    Eurodav 27 November 2017 18: 20 New
    0
    What they are not insisting! Maybe we’ll throw them recipes, anyone who has them, let them drive moonshine and insist on us! And in the New Year we will drink for the Motherland!
    Well, honestly, there will be more benefit!
  31. zulusuluz
    zulusuluz 27 November 2017 20: 41 New
    0
    Maybe he will agree, provided that not a single American remains on earth? ..
  32. 7 poplar
    7 poplar 27 November 2017 21: 38 New
    0
    but the UN does not even need to see the side of the border with the Russian Federation from afar.
  33. Manul
    Manul 27 November 2017 22: 48 New
    0
    Americans should not be in a showdown in Cuba (and everywhere else). There should be Russia.
  34. askme
    askme 28 November 2017 01: 04 New
    0
    In fact, this is all nonsense. The main thing in this case is the process. While there is a tramp with a contingent - the war in the Donbass full-scale will not start. This was the point from Putin’s point of view when he proposed to introduce peacekeepers. Now we can discuss the year, and then two more. During this time, Russia will only get stronger. That makes sense)
  35. Belarus is Russia
    Belarus is Russia 28 November 2017 02: 10 New
    0
    On a slope you need to go to the United States so that they don’t speak and write more of such nonsense.
  36. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 28 November 2017 04: 29 New
    0
    Insolence crosses all borders - the UN has become a division of amers. Though!!! , blackmail "rolls" with Russia, UN property may also be arrested.
  37. ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey 28 November 2017 16: 50 New
    0
    These things have already taken place in Yugoslavia, the NATO peacekeepers will come and kill everyone and the outskirts will triumph and flourish, well, Svidomo will climb into the loop themselves.
  38. Old military officer
    Old military officer 28 November 2017 17: 19 New
    0
    Sing, little bird, sing. Crimea is not yours at all. Donetsk and Lugansk have to give something. Eh, your American soul is like that.