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Russia is negotiating with the UAE on the disposal of spent nuclear fuel

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Russia is negotiating the disposal of spent nuclear fuel with the emirate nuclear power plant “Baraka” under construction, reports RIA News message of the Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov.




Russia is negotiating the disposal of spent nuclear fuel with the Baraka emirate NPP under construction,
Manturov said at the opening of the next meeting of the intergovernmental commission of the Russian Federation and the United Arab Emirates.

At the end of October, the Director General of the Federal Nuclear Control Administration, Christer Victorsson, reported that the UAE nuclear regulator expects to issue a license to operate the first nuclear power plant in the Emirates of Baraka in 2018. The launch time of the station will depend on its readiness. He also noted that, technically, the first reactor of a nuclear power plant is ready for 96%.

In addition, Russia has proposed the creation of a large grain hub in the UAE to ensure the stability of supplies to Middle Eastern countries.

We propose to consider the creation in the UAE of a large grain hub for storing Russian grain in order to ensure stable supply of grain to the countries of the Middle East,
said the head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade.
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  1. Herculesic
    Herculesic 26 November 2017 16: 02
    +2
    So, the normal process, since we are building, it is clearly stated in the contract that we should take away the waste! Or do the emirates want to build a storehouse for this waste?
    1. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 26 November 2017 16: 09
      10
      Quote: Herkulesich
      time we build
      Nope, not us
      NPP is being built according to the American project, similar to the project of the largest nuclear power plant in the USA - Palo Verde .. In December 2009 South Korean consortium led by Korea Electric Power Corp, was named the winner in an international tender for the selection of a contractor for the creation of four power units in the UAE. The contract value is $ 40 billion.
      And to the Russians, what remains? Probably this: And then we will be told on TV about the profitable replenishment of the state treasury with income from the disposal of someone else's radioactive waste and the beneficial effect of radiation on population health.
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 26 November 2017 16: 23
        13
        Well, actually, our country is large, there is where it is safe to store. And in light of the development of reactors at BN, this is a great way to get fuel for nuclear power plants, and even with a surcharge for this. This is a fairytale.
        1. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 26 November 2017 16: 27
          +7
          Quote: Muvka
          Well, actually, our country is big ...
          Therefore, you can blindly shit - a lot of land ..
          Quote: Muvka
          This is a fairytale.
          Fairy tale - the massive use of reactors on BN in the near future
          1. Muvka
            Muvka 26 November 2017 16: 47
            +5
            Do you have any reasons? What is a fairy tale? Or just your personal opinion, not supported by anything?
            1. Ami du peuple
              Ami du peuple 26 November 2017 17: 12
              +1
              Quote: Muvka
              Do you have any reasons?
              For example, in a recent interview, the Deputy General Director of the SSC of the Russian Federation - IPPE V.M.Poplavsky argued
              Before speaking about the advantages of fast reactors, it should be noted that at present, and in the medium term, the basis of nuclear energy is and will be thermal reactors as a technologically advanced energy component.
              This is the opinion of a leading Russian specialist in the field of nuclear energy.
              1. Muvka
                Muvka 26 November 2017 18: 26
                +7
                AND? He does not say that they will not be. It is clear that even just building a rector is not one year. So to speak, then there is no nuclear power, because The basis for power generation in all countries is oil and gas.
                1. Ami du peuple
                  Ami du peuple 26 November 2017 18: 47
                  +3
                  Quote: Muvka
                  AND? He does not say that they will not be
                  So I do not claim that they will not be. He expressed his opinion, supported by an authoritative source, about the rather quick implementation of the project of BN reactors using MOX fuel. In the meantime, this Emirate SNF, for the disposal of which we now conclude contracts, is sent exclusively for geological disposal, which is not good. Is it clear now?
                  1. Muvka
                    Muvka 26 November 2017 18: 49
                    +5
                    AND? We are very good at storing waste. If there are problems, give an example. And the reactors will soon begin to build, don’t worry.
                    1. Ami du peuple
                      Ami du peuple 26 November 2017 19: 20
                      +4
                      Quote: Muvka
                      And?
                      Without the "and". You, in the absence of counterarguments, begin, like a woman with low social responsibility, to wag .. oh, the fifth point. hi
                      Quote: Muvka
                      And the reactors will soon begin to build, don’t worry.
                      I’m not worrying somehow, because I’m sure that the future lies in nuclear energy. But this is not a reason to take SNF from third-party nuclear power plants for disposal, to which Rosatom has nothing to do. Let the local investors, NPP builders and operators think about these issues. And then 40 billion dollars to the South Koreans, and we only waste, even if, as you say, very useful.
                      By the way, would you agree to live in Chelyabinsk-40?
                      1. Muvka
                        Muvka 26 November 2017 20: 10
                        +5
                        The question is - why live there? Is someone forcing? What are some other cities with such a problem? Very interesting. And about the waste, are you aware that we are taking money for this?
            2. renics
              renics 26 November 2017 17: 27
              +5
              What to back up you are not aware of the release of radioactive ruthenium 106 from the storage facilities of the Mayak chemical plant, which has already reached France. And if it will be a larger accident with the release of long-lived radionuclides?
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 26 November 2017 18: 34
                +1
                Quote: renics
                What to back up you are not aware of the release of radioactive ruthenium 106 from the storage facilities of the Mayak chemical plant, which has already reached France. And if it will be a larger accident with the release of long-lived radionuclides?


                Due to the fact that there was no threat to people with an increase in the concentration of ruthenium-106, the specialists of Roshydromet are not looking for the cause of the incident, head of the department Maxim Yakovenko told reporters.

                Roshydromet spoke about the "extreme" jump in the level of radiation in the Urals
                He recalled that at the end of September, the Russian automatic monitoring system recorded an increase in the concentration of ruthenium-106 in Russia and other countries - Poland, Bulgaria, Ukraine. Yakovenko noted that concentrations of ruthenium-106 in Romania were one and a half to two times higher than in Russia. "The concentrations that were caught were a thousand times less than the maximum allowable concentration. There is no danger," Yakovenko said.
                1. opus
                  opus 26 November 2017 19: 31
                  +5
                  Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                  "The concentrations that were caught were a thousand times less than the maximum allowable concentration. There is no danger," Yakovenko said.

                  Roshydromet recognized almost a thousandfold excess of the level of ruthenium-106 in the Chelyabinsk region.
                  "From September 25 to October 1, total beta activity exceeded in radioactive aerosol and fallout samples recorded all posts located in the Southern Urals. Ru-106 radioisotope was detected in radioactive aerosol samples from observation points Argayash and Novogorny," emergency, extremely high and high environmental pollution in the Russian Federation during the period from 6 to 13 in October 2017 year. "
                  From the summary it follows that the content of ruthenium in the samples from the Argayash and Novogorny posts was 76,1 thousand and 52,3 thousand microbekkerles per cubic meter, respectively, which exceeded the background of the previous month 986 and 440 times and corresponded to the level of "extremely high pollution".

                  More on TASS:
                  http://tass.ru/proisshestviya/4744807

                  The probability of finding the source of ruthenium pollution. Data obtained by computer simulation.
                  IRSN / AP / Scanpix / LETA

                  and the WHOLE month was unlocked from the warm "waste of the human body".
                  until fashion was dunked
                  Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                  Yakovenko noted that the concentrations of ruthenium-106 in Romania were one and a half to two times higher than in Russia.

                  What we have to some sort of "Romania".
                  Zomboyaschik and puppeteers would be better to talk about their
                  1. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 26 November 2017 21: 27
                    +2
                    Quote: opus
                    The probability of finding the source of ruthenium pollution. Data obtained by computer simulation.

                    who modeled ??? wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
                    1. opus
                      opus 26 November 2017 22: 09
                      +3
                      Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                      who modeled ??

                      fool
                      Can we read?
                      I indicated everything:
                      IRSN / AP / Scanpix / LETA
                      Based on the meteorological conditions provided by Météo France and the measurement results available in European countries, IRSN conducted a simulation to determine the release zone, to estimate the amount of ruthenium released, as well as the period and duration of release.

                      It is possible to assess the quantity of ruthenium released in the European countries.


                      http://www.irsn.fr/EN/newsroom/News/Pages/2017110
                      9_Detection-of-Ruthenium-106-in-France-and-in-Eur
                      ope-Results-of-IRSN-investigations.aspx

                      Listen (or rather read) me carefully:
                      maybe you are daun, or maybe not, but kann sein Sie sind is crazy (like clown Muvka and 75% -90% of visitors to this site), but ...
                      I remember Chernobyl: I remember 3 and 3 you’re pedikov from the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and other kremblayade.
                      1. My grandfather (cousin) and his wife are in the grave (he was directly there, she is in Kiev)
                      2. My LAST grandfather (he is also a cousin, because there are no relatives left) will now die in St. Petersburg.
                      And he gave concerts to the Chernobyl victims (his wife has long been in the grave, she was waiting for him in Kiev), and not like the song beau monde in Chernobyl (Novikov about the transfer) ..
                      whether it is old age (82) or Chernobyl (he has a crust, real) - let them judge “there”.

                      Roosters, fatty roosters, as always, hide reality from the plebs.
                      And the month (!!!!) denied the obvious.
                      Blueotin (they are for me)
                      New boyars a / la Rus.
                      Do you like that? well go for it.
                      ===================
                      in other words, all over the world, not only with us.
                      Like zombies
                      1. Nikolai Grek
                        Nikolai Grek 26 November 2017 23: 27
                        +3
                        Quote: opus

                        Can we read?
                        I indicated everything:
                        IRSN / AP / Scanpix / LETA

                        what what what print on your wall from these "authoritative" sources and pray for them !!! fool fool lol lol lol do not break your current head !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
                      2. opus
                        opus 26 November 2017 23: 48
                        +1
                        Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                        print on your wall from these "authoritative" sources and pray for them !!!

                        IRSN-Institut de radioprotection et de sûreté nucléaire (IRSN) ("Radioprotection and Nuclear Safety Institute")
                        Institute of Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety (IRSN) France
                        I still remind you: France, Curie, radioactivity and the only NATO country (the West), has its own YABZ and NPP (most of all, if we count specifically)
                        AP-Associated Press, well everyone knows that, they reprinted the IRSN model
                        Scanpix is ​​the leading distributor of photographic services in the world, they reprinted the IRSN mat.
                        LETA - who the hell are they?
                        Not, of course, for an imbecile who believes only

                        it
                        Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                        "authoritative"
                        sources.
                        Can you strain a scammer and expose your "authoritative" ones?
                        This (not necessary)

                        and this is not necessary


                        Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                        do not break your current head !!!

                        "go wet the head ..., but not the one, but the one on the neck"
                        I passed the analysis in 2 weeks - there is no ganderreleza. But the problem was not solved .. This doctor also prescribed a bunch of tests and urine and
                2. renics
                  renics 27 November 2017 00: 54
                  +3
                  You never know what is being reported there, but no one will tell the truth referring to secrecy, and none of the outsiders will be allowed into this sensitive facility. In reasoning like a small one, and unconditionally believe in everything that they will not tell you. Here are the conclusions of experts.
                  Where did ruthenium come from? DISABLED FILTERS. Those. There was a routine procedure for vitrification of radioactive waste from spent fuel. BUT, if you enable filters, the cost of the procedure will increase many times (which is actually included in the cost of the work) you need to spend money on filters to buy new replacement cartridges with reagents that capture RuO4. But if the documents skip the purchase of new cassettes, and at the same time use the old ones, then you can steal not so weakly. Not very weak. Those. they just didn’t change when the time came for the filters and here’s a little cloud with RuO4, and for someone, several tens of millions of rubles from the bush. It is necessary to look for the culprit somewhere here, in the area of ​​the SNF vitrification section, and especially carefully check the numbers of the installed cassettes, the shift log and the purchase documents for new filter cassettes, and talk to the cassette manufacturer with addiction, there could be counterfeit cassettes. Or a manufacturing defect. But in any case, the Investigative Committee and the Prosecutor General and the FSB must dig there. Otherwise, wait for the repetition.
                  PS About how cheating with filters ask residents of Chelyabinsk. In the Chelyabinsk region, this is generally a "topic". Stealing on the destruction of the environment and human health. Under the governor of Dubrovsky, this flourished simply with a double color. Why? Oh, how inconvenient it turned out, someone very close in Magnitogorsk was engaged in the supply of filters for the metallurgical plant. Well, why shouldn't he supply externally similar cassettes for nuclear scientists? Ruthenium? Nah, did not hear. But at the bidding price is lower. And in Chelyabinsk pipes are also “competitive” filters. So far, only metallurgists were supplied, this was the problem of the inhabitants of the environs, but how they began to supply the nuclear industry, it became a problem for Russia and Europe and China. But the governor doesn’t hear anything, knows nothing and is not at all busy, the deputies and vice do not bother. Well, who would doubt it. Here the inhabitants of Chelyabinsk have no doubt at all, and I also have no doubt. But only enemies from Europe and home-grown spiteful critics slander and slander the most honest guber and his entourage. And he’s doing fine, well, in the fodder territory, though it was somehow inconvenient for the deputies to have the dachas on the Uvilds, but nothing, they’ll go to France to relax, and let the dachas stand for 10 years and then everything will be fine again. And the movie on YouTube. Technical Crisis Center, IBRAE RAS.
        2. opus
          opus 26 November 2017 19: 56
          +7
          Quote: Muvka
          Well, actually, we have a big country, where it is safe to keep

          fool
          Under Russian law, the import of radioactive waste into the country is prohibited.
          Art. 31 of the Law "Features of the importation into the Russian Federation and the export of radioactive waste from the Russian Federation"
          h. 1 Art. 31 said that "The import into the Russian Federation of radioactive waste for the purpose of their storage, processing and disposal is prohibited ...",
          "... except as otherwise provided in this article." And further, h. 4 Art. Xnumx Permits the return to the Russian Federation of spent ionizing radiation sources (RSI) produced in the Russian Federation, including for their processing and disposal. "
          import of radioactive waste from abroad - will be a criminal offense under Art. 220 of the Criminal Code ("Illegal handling of nuclear materials or radioactive substances").
          Head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov

          Turma is waiting for a long time.
          Millionaire Minister, "handsome"
          The official income of Denis Manturov, according to his declaration, for 2012 a year amounted to 103,8 million rubles, at the current exchange rate of the Central Bank a little over 3 million dollars. Manturov was the richest man in our government.

          ah, yay yay, 30 times
          Dmitry Medvedev's income last year - again, according to the declaration he filed - amounted to about 5,8 million rubles, with President Vladimir Putin - 5,79 million.

          that's how we live

          for uo-its not where to store
          Rosatom plans to create PZRO
          Rosatom issued an order No. 1 / 382-П from 11.04.2013, where a list of promising
          (ADDITIONAL) sites on the territory of the Russian Federation for further substantiation and selection of sites for the creation of radioactive waste disposal facilities. Identified promising sites in 18-ti regions in the territory of the Russian Federation.
          From the 30, the selected sites 10 are the highest priority, where a large amount of radioactive waste is already concentrated (see map). Moscow region (Sergievo-Posad district), Sverdlovsk region (Novouralsk), Tomsk region (Seversk), Chelyabinsk region (Ozersk), Arkhangelsk region (Novaya Zemlya), Leningrad region (Sosnovy Bor), the Republic of Kalmykia (Priyutnensky district), the Komi Republic (Ukhta), Chita region (Krasnokamensk), Krasnoyarsk Territory (Zheleznogorsk). PZRO built only in the Sverdlovsk region, in the city of Novouralsk.


          Quote: Muvka
          And in the light of the development of reactors at the BN - this is a great way to get fuel for nuclear power plants, and even with a surcharge for it.



          According to the Russian “Law on the Use of Atomic Energy” (dated 21 in November 1995, No. 170-ФЗ), radioactive waste is nuclear materials and radioactive substances, the further use of which is not envisaged.
          Quote: Muvka
          This is a fairytale.

          for trips
          1. Huge reserves of depleted uranium have been accumulated in the world. Only in Russia its number is in the hundreds of thousands of tons (about 700 thousand tons)
          2. Since the beginning of the 70 of the twentieth century, by 2010, Western European companies have imported waste from the uranium enrichment industry and SNF reprocessing products into Russia. This was done to avoid high costs for their storage and disposal in their homeland. The state corporation Rosatom, or rather the authorized enterprise, the JSC "Techsnabexport", bought this "valuable" energy raw material at the price of toilet paper (0,6 dollars per kg, which is more than 100 times lower than the cost of ordinary uranium).
          the territory of Russia is actually creating a system of international repositories of nuclear waste.
          After the beneficiation of 90,% of the waste remained in Russia forever. Russia was turned into a dump of foreign waste.

          Only in 2010, the main suppliers of depleted uranium companies URENCO and AREVA stopped the supply of nuclear waste to Russia. New contracts will not be concluded.
          3. RBN we have one: in 3 power unit (only) at the Beloyarsk NPP in the Sverdlovsk region near the town of Zarechny.

          and in its fuel cycle can be the stocks 238U and 232Th and are involved POSSIBLY
          the so-called “waste uranium”, remaining after the enrichment of nuclear fuel 235U.

          “Dump uranium” we have more than 700 000 tons (as I wrote above)

          BUT NOT SNF (Spent Nuclear Fuel) - is a fuel elements containing residues of nuclear fuel and a variety of fission products, mainly 137Cs and 90Sr and even more so not RWS.

          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Therefore, you can blindly shit - a lot of land ..

          and him on the drum.
          Deniska Manturov said, it means approval
      2. weksha50
        weksha50 26 November 2017 17: 09
        +7
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        And to the Russians, what remains?


        Here its own - enough above the roof ...


        Neither about the present, nor, moreover, about subsequent generations, today's rumblers at the helm of power-economy do not think absolutely ...
        And the storage facilities of the GKH simply can not accommodate the inevitable ... recourse
        And in the Chelyabinsk region, consider experiments on people for what they have been doing for ten years ...
        1. serriy
          serriy 26 November 2017 18: 52
          +5
          And, strangely enough, some types of "patriots" approve of this country's transformation into a nuclear garbage dump, and they are also enthusiastic about it in the comments. fool fool
          1. opus
            opus 26 November 2017 21: 33
            +2
            Quote: serriy
            some types of "patriots"

            So they are "type".
            The most pus is.
            all approve will scream
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 26 November 2017 22: 07
              +5
              Quote: opus
              Quote: serriy
              some types of "patriots"

              So they are "type".
              The most pus is.
              all approve will scream

              Dear Comrade! hi drinks
              They (they) are told: we can petroleum jelly, they say no need for “real muzchins” to endure. Permogue, we have reached a new level of cooperation, “we take radioactive shit in the UAE and bury it in Siberia.” But I think that ruble- Uspenskoe highway - the most place, well, if hotz.
              And what is most characteristic, the main Saudi pulled more than a hundred Baku lardof from his oligarfen ...., and our people, this is the second oil, the price has fallen there -increase the "milk yield" here. we live not tight and the vorogas lurked around ....
              1. opus
                opus 26 November 2017 22: 49
                +3
                Quote: Stroporez
                Dear Comrade!

                Yes, what is it here ...
                I paid the tax for the apartment (bought for labor, for commercial). He looked and froze.
                Cadastral value in 8 (eight times) more purchasing and 50% more
                market
                with 2016 (Dimka Medvedev is also a philanthropist).
                By law, only to the court (and only valid for a year), but pay first.
                So I will have fun in 2017-in 2018, and so for life.

                So I think I’m faithful to Joke No. 474729:


                and here (acre of taxes born in the face on which the stigma is not where to put) son-in-law (some people) Denisk Manturov

                Education Denis received at Moscow State University. M.V. Lomonosov (1994), specialty - "sociology". In 1997, he graduated from the graduate school of Moscow State University, Ph.D.

                Well, he fumbles in RBN and in “dump uranium” essno
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 26 November 2017 23: 10
                  +3
                  Quote: opus
                  and here (acre of taxes born in the face on which the stigma is not where to put) son-in-law (some people) Denisk Manturov

                  "godfather", "brother," matchmaker, mother-in-law, all cellists.
                  Quote: opus
                  By law, only to the court (and only valid for a year), but pay first.

                  Is it interesting that we only felt it or all the same, all 146%?
                  1. opus
                    opus 26 November 2017 23: 34
                    +2
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    all the same all 146%

                    ?
                    Electorate?
                    1. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 27 November 2017 07: 21
                      +1
                      Quote: opus
                      Electorate?

                      I mean, to many, the current course is very nice.
    2. 1331M
      1331M 26 November 2017 16: 09
      +8
      Are you immortal there as I look ??? am Well, take it to yourself ...
      1. hrych
        hrych 26 November 2017 16: 38
        +8
        Quote: 1331M
        Well, take it to yourself ...

        Nuclear waste contains isotopes that can and should be reused. By chemical treatment, spent uranium, plutonium and radioactive isotopes are extracted from spent nuclear fuel. And since Since there is a shortage of fissile materials in the world, the technology becomes invaluable. And ours are breaking out into the leaders. On the other hand, it is better to take away radioactive substances from Aboriginal people. About jobs on the Lighthouse, etc. of course you will not be convinced of anything ...
        https://ria.ru/atomtec/20170621/1496987193.html
        1. renics
          renics 26 November 2017 17: 29
          +4
          Are you already starting to share our ours, not only isotopes, but already people?
          1. hrych
            hrych 26 November 2017 21: 52
            +1
            Quote: renics
            you are already starting to share not only isotopes but also people

            There are white, there are black, there are yellow, there are blue laughing People, like isotopes, are different. And somehow I like our isotopes more laughing
        2. spirit
          spirit 26 November 2017 17: 48
          +4
          And what’s there at the lighthouse we’ll see) yeah, the release, in the best traditions of the locals they didn’t say anything about it, think about it) in the field, officials even say that it is useful

          After all, the year of ecology in Russia good
          1. hrych
            hrych 26 November 2017 21: 48
            0
            Quote: spirit
            yeah outburst

            And let's give up nuclear energy, let's give up nuclear weapons. Will you feel better? And deal with the Chinese, Japanese and NATO, plus the Islamic world will trample from the south. And all at once. It took place after 1917, when everyone flooded at once, all right fought back, and the demographic situation was different. And for accidents in America and Fukushima, please post enemy propaganda, and they themselves haven’t snouted at this topic. Listen to the specialists, and they say that everything is normal. Of course, CNEN, Voice of America and other foreign agents are more dear to you. So you are a foreign agent and there is, of course, maybe just a local kyu wassat And whom did he bring to the video? Chapter anti-nuclear society of Tatarstan Albert Garapov, who became a guest of the next program release "Real people 2.0". These are just vile enemies of the people and their studio, where they let Shatz wassat
            1. spirit
              spirit 26 November 2017 22: 17
              0
              And if you let this local tell you who it affected, and about the State Department and about agents, that would be fun hi
              1. hrych
                hrych 26 November 2017 22: 31
                +4
                Quote: spirit
                And let’s you tell the locals this

                Have they all fled? Did they mutate? Maybe you don’t need to speak for the locals. They live and work there calmly and believe me, every student there understands nuclear safety matters more than yours. The head of the anti-nuclear society, which is a grant-eater and clearly not in itself laughing no one listened. He reminded me of nulliparous soldiers' mothers, grant-eaters who sowed pacifism among ours in Chechnya, and then succumbed and surrendered cut their throats. Let the United States, Britain, France, China, India, Pakistan and Israel be the first to give up nuclear weapons. But no, they are fooling us, and already the unfortunate Emirates are building a nuclear reactor, they want to own nuclear technology. By the way, they don’t keep anyone on the Mayak by force, you want to be welcome to any region, don’t want the Russian Federation, please at least to Israel, even to America laughing By the way, Ruthenium is found in Germany, but not with us wassat
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 26 November 2017 16: 10
      +1
      You would have written that you need to build an elevator there. Not that their "hubs" have remained since the days of the USSR. laughing
      1. serriy
        serriy 26 November 2017 19: 10
        0
        "Ensuring stable supplies." And if the crop failure in our country? THERE is still "stable." Business in the West is thinking about profitable sales, they have prices, they have a market. We all have some kind of "stable" policy, some weighted average prices, some kind of special pricing, some kind of backstage contracts. negative
        Takeaway country. negative angry
        “Grain Hub”, somewhere, - THINKING THERE IS NECESSARY! fool fool fool
      2. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 26 November 2017 22: 44
        +7
        Alezha ... home wink
    4. Monos
      Monos 26 November 2017 16: 10
      +6
      In late October, the Director General of the Federal Office for Nuclear Control, Christer Victorsson

      Colleagues publishing articles! Be more sensitive to the material. Christer Viktorsson is Director General of the Emirate's Regulatory Authority FANR. From the article you might think that he is in our civil service. smile
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 26 November 2017 16: 19
        +1
        Russia is negotiating the disposal of spent nuclear fuel with the Baraka nuclear power plant under construction
        and all? one heading? Or rather?
        1. Roman 11
          Roman 11 26 November 2017 16: 49
          +2
          Quote: Dead Day
          Or rather?

          More precisely, your descendants will sometimes feel uncomfortable with the increased content of some radon ..... well, there are more frequent oncological diseases, etc. Something tells, the Arabs will refuse from the elevator winked

          With one foot we are in times ebn

          Hello 90s good

          ps: then they also whined that they were turning Russia into a nuclear garbage dump.

          Well, how many of those same wastes were brought to us in the 90th silence, state secrets.
        2. siberalt
          siberalt 26 November 2017 16: 55
          0
          More precisely, from our plant for such disposal from the Chelyabinsk region, we covered Europe with radioactive rhenium. Our leak is denied, but the fact remains. belay
      2. opus
        opus 26 November 2017 20: 01
        +1
        Quote: Monos
        From the article you might think that he is in our civil service

        we don't have a federal nuclear control authority

        we = Rostekhnadzor
        Federal Service for Environmental, Technological and Nuclear Supervision
        http://www.gosnadzor.ru/

        And a person who has Finnish and Swedish citizenship cannot be
        Quote: Monos
        in our civil service
  2. private person
    private person 26 November 2017 16: 05
    +5
    Well, what can we offer besides oil and gas? Offer services for the disposal of nuclear waste on its territory, and that Russia is a lot of waste can be disposed of.
    1. 1331M
      1331M 26 November 2017 16: 07
      +5
      Just not to us, let Putin in this garden bury this business.
      1. private person
        private person 26 November 2017 16: 09
        +5
        That's just the point that to you and Us and they will leave to live to them.
      2. Muvka
        Muvka 26 November 2017 16: 24
        +4
        Quote: 1331M
        Just not to us, let Putin in this garden bury this business.

        Why do we bury fuel for nuclear power plants? We better put it into action when we bring to mind the BN reactors.
        1. In100gram
          In100gram 26 November 2017 17: 05
          +3
          Quote: Muvka
          when we bring to mind the reactors on BN.

          So, it seems, they’ve already finished, they increase the power yes
          1. Muvka
            Muvka 26 November 2017 18: 27
            +2
            Well, I think they have a lot of tests ahead) Well this is not a coal stove to build ...
    2. 210ox
      210ox 26 November 2017 16: 12
      +4
      Why not? Not only. We can build a nuclear power plant for her, even put equipment and fuel. By the way, the market for spent fuel utilization is rather narrow and there is a struggle for it. Both political and economic.
      Quote: private person
      Well, what can we offer besides oil and gas? Offer services for the disposal of nuclear waste on its territory, and that Russia is a lot of waste can be disposed of.
    3. Roman 11
      Roman 11 26 November 2017 16: 59
      +2
      Quote: private person
      Russia is a lot of waste can be disposed of.

      Utilization will be cost-effective, with benefit - in order not to be taken somewhere to the tundra away from people, they will quietly bury at megapoles and large centers. Our "servants of the people" have long been clever - the entire nuclear industry in the cities of Novosibirsk, Tomsk, Krasnoyarsk, etc. But about the waste from our nuclear power plants, no gu-gu. Where do they go? And we complain that we live a little what
  3. 210ox
    210ox 26 November 2017 16: 06
    +3
    But there’s a question: isn’t it discussed when signing a contract for the construction and supply of nuclear fuel? Or are we not building it?
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 26 November 2017 16: 10
      +4
      Most likely, all the details are being finalized, the NPPs will soon be commissioned.
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 26 November 2017 16: 52
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      Or are we not building it?

      No, Koreans, sort of.
    3. weksha50
      weksha50 26 November 2017 17: 17
      +4
      Quote: 210ox
      But there’s a question: isn’t it discussed when signing a contract for the construction and supply of nuclear fuel? Or are we not building it?


      This is the whole incident ... The Americans are building (the Amer’s project), and we will take the spent fuel to ourselves ... For money that are different in the budget or in reclamation, they won’t get there ..
  4. private person
    private person 26 November 2017 16: 11
    0
    Quote: Herkulesich
    So, the normal process, since we are building, it is clearly stated in the contract that we should take away the waste! Or do the emirates want to build a storehouse for this waste?

    Well, judging by the flag, you take away the waste.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 26 November 2017 16: 16
      +3
      Do you even know what it is, what, and how? Or do you think that this “waste” will be brought in bulk or in bags?
      Quote: private person
      Quote: Herkulesich
      So, the normal process, since we are building, it is clearly stated in the contract that we should take away the waste! Or do the emirates want to build a storehouse for this waste?

      Well, judging by the flag, you take away the waste.
  5. Sergey53
    Sergey53 26 November 2017 16: 15
    +1
    Shaw, again, "waste" for someone to clean up?
  6. bk316
    bk316 26 November 2017 16: 15
    +7
    One feels the people at the HE do not quite enter what SNF utilization is.
    These are the gentlemen of plutonium, currently, according to open sources, the only source of weapons-grade plutonium in the Russian Federation.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 26 November 2017 16: 22
      +5
      Of course. And not just plutonium. But most importantly, the word "waste" has become almost a curse word. And that is money, production, jobs.
      Quote: bk316
      One feels the people at the HE do not quite enter what SNF utilization is.
      These are the gentlemen of plutonium, currently, according to open sources, the only source of weapons-grade plutonium in the Russian Federation.
      1. bk316
        bk316 26 November 2017 16: 27
        +3
        But the main thing we have the word "waste" has become almost a curse

        This I think is not out of spite.
        The topic is not very open and requires at least a non-core but higher technical education.
        Who is interested in google "nuclear fuel multiplication factor" or "NP-013-99 basic terms and definitions"
        I won’t write any further, otherwise I’ll blurt out something laughing
      2. renics
        renics 26 November 2017 17: 21
        0
        Yeah, plus all this, they forgot to mention death due to radioactive releases during the accident.
    2. Grandfather
      Grandfather 26 November 2017 16: 24
      0
      Quote: bk316
      These are the gentlemen of plutonium,

      what ...? belaythere is an analogue of "Chelyabinsk 40"?
    3. askort154
      askort154 26 November 2017 16: 49
      +2
      bk316 ....These are the gentlemen of plutonium, currently, according to open sources, the only source of weapons-grade plutonium in the Russian Federation.

      In my opinion, we still deliver it to the United States, under a contract concluded in the 90s. Weapons-producing plutonium can be produced by several states, including the United States. But only Russia produces in volumes exceeding its needs. Spent nuclear fuel is also brought to us from Europe. When building a nuclear power plant abroad, Rosatom always takes care of waste processing. I do not understand what the "news" of this article is. And the talk that we arrange a radioactive dump at home is hypocrisy.
      The times when we stupidly made "nuclear burial grounds" remained in the 20th century.
      1. Genry
        Genry 26 November 2017 18: 59
        0
        The HEU KNOW contract has already ended. Americans only horseradish root ...
    4. serriy
      serriy 26 November 2017 19: 53
      0
      Quote: bk316
      One feels the people at the HE do not quite enter what SNF utilization is.
      These are the gentlemen of plutonium, currently, according to open sources, the only source of weapons-grade plutonium in the Russian Federation.


      Is plutonium obtained after SNF reprocessing, "reactor" plutonium, used as weapons-grade plutonium? what
      If you are a specialist not only "open source", then you know the answer. Do not mislead peoplehi
      1. bk316
        bk316 27 November 2017 12: 28
        +2
        "reactor" plutonium; weapons-grade plutonium is used

        Read carefully, (inattentive people in this industry are dangerous) I wrote "the source of weapons-grade plutonium" and not "weapons-grade plutonium" "
        1. serriy
          serriy 27 November 2017 14: 02
          0
          I wrote "weapons-grade plutonium" and not "weapons-grade plutonium"

          fool fool
          Very dangerous people who persistently mislead people! negative negative
          Reactor plutonium is neither weapons-grade plutonium nor a source of weapons-grade plutonium! In our country, in our country, reactor plutonium is not used as weapons-grade plutonium, it is not used as a source of weapons-grade plutonium!
  7. Million
    Million 26 November 2017 16: 45
    +1
    Let members of the EdRa store nuclear waste at home.
    1. Simon
      Simon 26 November 2017 17: 34
      +1
      Nuclear waste is nuclear energy in the future that can be recycled using new technology from the future world. An example is a "tokamak" that can run on almost any nuclear fuel.
    2. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 26 November 2017 17: 36
      +1
      Who will allow them to crap London like that?
  8. Livonetc
    Livonetc 26 November 2017 16: 48
    +5
    There is one most powerful argument for.
    Russia is essentially the only country in the world with closed-loop technology for the consumption and reproduction of nuclear fuel.
    In fact, new usable fuel is obtained from spent fuel.
    In fact, we get our hands on a significant energy resource, but we also pay a lot of money.
    And the cries of "pseudo-ecologists" are often just paid shares.
    As with drilling on the Arctic shelf.
    1. renics
      renics 26 November 2017 17: 19
      +4
      You yourself paid, see publications on emissions in the South Urals in September of this year, ruthenium 106 with a half-life of a little more than a year.
  9. private person
    private person 26 November 2017 17: 06
    +2
    Quote: 210ox
    Do you even know what it is, what, and how? Or do you think that this “waste” will be brought in bulk or in bags?
    Quote: private person
    Quote: Herkulesich
    So, the normal process, since we are building, it is clearly stated in the contract that we should take away the waste! Or do the emirates want to build a storehouse for this waste?

    Well, judging by the flag, you take away the waste.

    Quote: hrych
    Quote: 1331M
    Well, take it to yourself ...

    Nuclear waste contains isotopes that can and should be reused. By chemical treatment, spent uranium, plutonium and radioactive isotopes are extracted from spent nuclear fuel. And since Since there is a shortage of fissile materials in the world, the technology becomes invaluable. And ours are breaking out into the leaders. On the other hand, it is better to take away radioactive substances from Aboriginal people. About jobs on the Lighthouse, etc. of course you will not be convinced of anything ...
    https://ria.ru/atomtec/20170621/1496987193.html

    Wikipedia is of course written a lot. But why do we need someone else's waste if we can recycle our own. Something about Americans is not written that they expressed a desire to recycle other people's waste, but they would not have missed it in the sense of how you write benefits.
  10. renics
    renics 26 November 2017 17: 14
    +2
    They’ve completely shaved off, let them first upgrade their Mayak chemical plant for the processing of radioactive waste, and then in September they released radioactive ruthenium 106 throughout the southern Urals and throughout Europe, look and look around when you are irradiated like during the Chernobyl disaster. https://trv-science.ru/2017/11/24/otkuda-mog-vzya
    tsya-ru-106 /
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 26 November 2017 17: 23
      +7
      Somehow deftly, radiation went around Ukraine. This is definitely not a stuffing from the country 404? What, in Chelyabinsk there are no dosimeters?
      1. bk316
        bk316 27 November 2017 13: 28
        +3
        This is definitely not stuffing from country 404?

        And you go to the resource, then look at the main sponsor. Questions will disappear am
    2. askort154
      askort154 26 November 2017 17: 57
      +3
      renics .....They’ve completely freaked out

      Listen, distributor of Internet fakes tongue . First, at least at the amateur level, study the meteorological principles of the movement of baric formations in the earth's atmosphere. Then, compare them with this card and date, then you will understand that you have garlands of noodles on your ears. Do not put yourself in a stupid position, stupidly replicating fakes. Well, of course, if you are not an ideological troll. yes
      1. renics
        renics 27 November 2017 01: 00
        0
        I do not need to compare, they have been compared for a long time, in this article which I indicated, all links to these publications are presented there, and if you do not tolerate such disclosures, then there is nothing for you to do on this forum.
    3. Prole
      Prole 26 November 2017 18: 20
      +4
      I read the article to the end and here’s what - According to the published data of Roshydromet [8], which there is no reason not to trust, the maximum recorded content of ruthenium-106 in the air in the village of Argayash was 0,046 becquerels per cubic meter. That is, in order to get a dose that is maximum for the population, a person needs to inhale at least about a million cubic meters of such air, and in a professional - 100 million m3. And a person usually inhales about several thousand cubic meters per year ... Or you need to carefully lick ruthenium from the most active surface (Metlino) on an area of ​​about 50 m2. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
      1. 210ox
        210ox 26 November 2017 18: 54
        +2
        So it doesn’t matter. It’s important that such people began to raise panic. Any half-truth or lie should go into action. A matter of information war against Russia. By the way, I live where there is pollution on this "map". Severo-Vostok, Krasnodar Territory. Specially two days ago I was interested. Everything is normal. There are acquaintances in GO and P C.
        Quote: Prole
        I read the article to the end and here’s what - According to the published data of Roshydromet [8], which there is no reason not to trust, the maximum recorded content of ruthenium-106 in the air in the village of Argayash was 0,046 becquerels per cubic meter. That is, in order to get a dose that is maximum for the population, a person needs to inhale at least about a million cubic meters of such air, and in a professional - 100 million m3. And a person usually inhales about several thousand cubic meters per year ... Or you need to carefully lick ruthenium from the most active surface (Metlino) on an area of ​​about 50 m2. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
        1. renics
          renics 27 November 2017 01: 08
          0
          Well, say thank you, what has carried, but it could be, as in Chernobyl, and what then to do with your Krasnodar? Well, all these criminal components and human greed contribute precisely to this. See above my comment with the conclusions of experts on the analysis of this disgrace and the film published on YouTube. Technical Crisis Center, IBRAE RAS. Your emoticons no attention apparently you have not yet left school age, and climb with your comments to adults
          1. bk316
            bk316 27 November 2017 13: 26
            +2
            this article that I pointed out

            If you have at least some relation to the industry, then you know that it is customary to refer to official sources, which do not refer to an article on a public Internet publication, which (ATTENTION) is the main sponsor of the Ukrainian fund.
            Officially - this is in ROSATOM. If you do not trust state bodies, then here
            http://www.atominfo.ru/. Если хотите узнать все в деталях, то здесь http://forum.atominfo.ru
            Well, if they let you go there, of course bully
  11. Simon
    Simon 26 November 2017 17: 27
    +1
    Quote: Herkulesich
    So, the normal process, since we are building, it is clearly stated in the contract that we should take away the waste! Or do the emirates want to build a storehouse for this waste?

    Waste must be collected! In the future, these "nuclear" wastes can be processed into energy using future, new technologies. And this is the future energy. Our scientists are well aware of this and offer to preserve in Russia. yes
  12. APASUS
    APASUS 26 November 2017 18: 05
    +2
    Here's the news, we also have to clean up the nuclear waste for the Americans? I understand when we take our assemblies, but what other foreign garbage should we recycle, given that these assemblies are made using a different technology. Will there be an opportunity to extract something from them before the end is not clear. And there is so much money in Russia, we already keep it in America, so the argument for money does not roll!
  13. Prole
    Prole 26 November 2017 18: 07
    +2
    What is the hub for grain storage. livestock needs to be developed. Selling grain is like selling oil, not gasoline or kerosene, nor base oils, paraffins, resins, etc., and oil .. So it is with grain. You need to overstock your markets with meat, fish, chicken, turkey, and so on. And we are glad that we sell a dime for a ruble and we don’t have anything to feed pensioners except cheap pasta .. The best sanctions for the West are to live well ourselves, but we all praise that our homeland was sold for dollars and the euro was sold at a higher price. How embarrassed this Putin is.
  14. Gardamir
    Gardamir 26 November 2017 18: 07
    +2
    We have nuclear waste, Arabs bread. No, we cannot change such power.
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 26 November 2017 18: 32
      +1
      We need nuclear waste for money, for their money. And bread for their money. 2-0 in our favor. What do not you like? And at the same time, this waste is fuel for advanced nuclear power plants. Those. they will give us for their money what we will use as fuel.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 26 November 2017 20: 44
        +1
        We need nuclear waste for money, for their money. And bread for their money.
        This is liberalism. You bring home a big bunch of shit, but no, of course you get paid. Then, eaten is taken from the house, of course not for the money. Congratulations, there’s nothing to eat, but in one room the money in another is the one that stinks
        What are you proud of in the Union was bread, there was money, there was fuel, But what stinks was where it should be in the West.
        And waste is not fuel!
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 26 November 2017 20: 58
          +1
          We have nothing to eat? Seriously? Maybe stop writing nonsense?
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 26 November 2017 21: 31
            0
            Maybe stop writing nonsense?
            If you cannot read, what are you doing here? Pushing the ideas of liberalism?
  15. Eurodav
    Eurodav 26 November 2017 18: 14
    +1
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    Quote: Muvka
    Well, actually, our country is big ...
    Therefore, you can blindly shit - a lot of land ..
    Quote: Muvka
    This is a fairytale.
    Fairy tale - the massive use of reactors on BN in the near future

    Why don’t you like everything? And it’s not like that for you! With a reasonable approach, if the state has recycling technology, then this is not a bad way to make money!
    And why did I write this, I’ve given you three more key points for the cove gave- Reasonable, Technology and Earn !!!
  16. Eurodav
    Eurodav 26 November 2017 18: 21
    +3
    Quote: Prole
    What is the hub for grain storage. livestock needs to be developed. Selling grain is like selling oil, not gasoline or kerosene, nor base oils, paraffins, resins, etc., and oil .. So it is with grain. You need to overstock your markets with meat, fish, chicken, turkey, and so on. And we are glad that we sell a dime for a ruble and we don’t have anything to feed pensioners except cheap pasta .. The best sanctions for the West are to live well ourselves, but we all praise that our homeland was sold for dollars and the euro was sold at a higher price. How embarrassed this Putin is.

    Vote for Navalny and Sobchak! They will pile you personally ... but not meat! And when you say that Putin was sick of you, well, continue the sentence, like, for example -..... (that one), he would fill the markets "... with meat, fish, chicken, turkey, etc. .. ". And it would be clear to us about whom you would discuss all together !!!
    OR DO NOT YOU HAVE ANYONE? A SIMPLY NECESSARY ONCE AGAIN ABOUT PUTIN BLIND?
    1. Prole
      Prole 27 November 2017 12: 40
      0
      Navalny and Sobchak are not my candidates. By Putin I mean all that liberal policy that has been pursued during Putin’s reign as his friends and aides like Chubais or Ulyukaev. All this clique of united Russia with the majority of votes in the Duma is from Yeltsin’s times. They sit there and let in laws such as spring tracking everything and everything, but you need to buy all the equipment quickly and abroad, or they will take away the license. But about roaming in their own country, they have shouted and forgotten and did not put anyone in prison for an encroachment on the integrity of the Russian Federation. Here's another fact more interesting for Colonel Zakharchenko 8 billion rubles !!! The man fought corruption in power. What is still fashionable in our country to fight with, and with terrorism, pedophilia, drug addiction, alcoholism, the elderly, medicine prices, quotas for vital operations, in short, you can continue to list the topics of the struggle against the people until the next morning. Say, let's not generalize .. Or maybe someone from the leadership should shoot himself unable to withstand the shame of his subordinates. Well, at least resign at the ministerial level and before that, dissolve the entire ministry. And who gave bribes. So the united Russia drives everywhere. I was waiting for a volcano explosion and waited for a fart .... A bribe taker in prison and that’s it. Maybe you should already listen to the bulk with the dog. Maybe enough already smile? and start thinking critically.
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  17. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 26 November 2017 18: 31
    0
    Yes! Yes!! Yes!!! All shit of the world to visit us !!!
  18. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 26 November 2017 18: 31
    0
    If they will be disposed of in the cooperative "Lake", then, I do not mind
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  21. private person
    private person 26 November 2017 21: 36
    +2
    Quote: Muvka
    We have nothing to eat? Seriously? Maybe stop writing nonsense?

    But what are you eating? Palm oil instead of chocolate, fried acorns instead of coffee, meat-free sausages, fruits and vegetables, it is not known where and on what they are grown, etc.? Where is import substitution?
  22. Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 26 November 2017 22: 11
    +1
    Muvka,
    We hto this ????
  23. HEATHER
    HEATHER 26 November 2017 22: 40
    +1
    And here. "Baraka" with South Korea and spent nuclear assemblies? We import only our spent fuel on our territory. From the same ukroiny, Bulgaria. Foreign reactors, foreign assemblies owned by the manufacturer. If there is nowhere to reprocess, their problems. Our business is RMBC, VVER.MANTUROV is saying something wrong. There is a Law on the return of only our spent SNF to Russia. Nefig to bring any garbage to us in Zheleznogorsk. Why do we bury fuel for nuclear power plants? We better put it into action when we bring to mind the BN reactors. The reactor is working. The main problem is the production of MOX fuel. They are working on the technology. They will build a plant for the production of REMIX fuel, we have the same. We have prepared the territory.Fairy tale - the massive use of reactors on BN in the near future The BN-600 has been operating for 20 years. The BN-800 has been launched this year. The BN-1200 is also under construction in the development of the BN-1600. Plans for the construction of at least 10 BN-1200 by the 30th year have been submitted for approval.
  24. HEATHER
    HEATHER 26 November 2017 22: 58
    +2
    . [/ Quote]And the storage facilities of the GKH simply can not accommodate the inevitable ... The MCC does not intend to accommodate “left-handed” assemblies. I repeat, only the SNF produced in Russia. The “wet” and “dry” storages were built. The SNF is reprocessed, as a result of which the storage facilities can take the assemblies for at least 100 years. it’s wrong to call SNF “nuclear waste.” This is a completely different thing..Something about Americans is not written that they expressed a desire to recycle other people's waste, but they would not have missed it in the sense of how you write benefits. The Americans could not, having planted billions, even with the help of the French, start up a SNF reprocessing plant. 1 years have been built. So they did not pass.
  25. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 27 November 2017 08: 33
    0
    The comments immediately show who skipped physics at school or university. Who does not know how much uranium is consumed in one cycle and what isotopes are ultimately obtained.
  26. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 27 November 2017 18: 17
    0
    The situation with the population will look like this - there are more people, less water. I want grain and water. Hub with grain (in translation to a more intelligible - super-mega-elevator) desert Arabs want to have at home. On the water - it is necessary to agree with Egypt until the Nile is divided. Electricity in this region, as a by-product from the hydroelectric power station, will not be of interest to anyone very soon.
    PS Any radioactive waste-shmathoda, radiation-shmadatsii-will be acceptable if there is water.