Argentine Navy: An explosion could occur on board the San Juan DEPL

The command of the Argentine Navy reports a possible explosion aboard the San Juan diesel-electric submarine. Recall that the boat, the crew that was 44 person at the time of the transition from Ushuaia to Mar del Plata, ceased to get in touch last week. The last signal from the board was recorded at a military base about 400 km from the coast.

A statement about the possible explosion on board the submarine was made by the representative of the Navy Agentina Enrique Balbi:

We learned about the anomalous thermal phenomenon, non-nuclear. It was short and small in power. May correspond to an explosion.

Recall that on the eve it was reported about a thermal phenomenon in the southwestern Atlantic, but there was no talk of an explosion. An anomaly found the American military aircraft "Boeing P-8 Poseidon". Now the Argentine Navy is considering just such a version - a version of an explosion aboard a submarine.

Recall that Russia offered its assistance in conducting a search and rescue operation. In Argentina, it is noted that the Russian deep-water apparatuses can be activated after establishing the exact square in which the submarine submarine of the country is located.

Comments

[Teberii]

Fire and explosion, it is logical. But to find the place of death, to establish the cause is necessary.

[210ox]

Of course. The reason should be clarified. That the tragedy would not be repeated. Yes and it is necessary to honor the dead ..

[sir_obs]

There’s nothing special to burn there, or rather nothing, it’s not an atomic ship. This is an excess of oxygen on the nuclear-powered vessel and any spark leads to a fire, and on a diesel boat there is an excess of carbon dioxide and in order to set fire to something, you need to try hard. Only hydrogen, which is released by batteries, can actually explode, but this happens when they are charged mainly. that is, the boat must be on the surface. Well, or ammunition, although even during the war there was no case of detonation of ammunition, even with direct penetration of deep bombs into the boat. Totest, too, need to try very hard.

[Berkut154]

Try hard? Forgot the tragedy in Polar or recently Warsaw at the Hindus? Nothing to burn on a boat? How does a submarine differ from a nuclear submarine in terms of fire and explosion safety or underwater and surface unsinkability? The presence of a reactor? Do not carry nonsense !!!!

[sir_obs]

Ignition and fire are different things. There is not a single case on diesel lolks that would end in her death. A fire from the dpl does not lead to such consequences. 0, and on a nuclear-powered ship almost always ends with the death of the ship.
In reality, only regeneration can be set on fire, it is almost impossible to extinguish it, and in order to set off a serious fire, oxygen is not enough.
The biggest explosion in the diesels, was on the B-46, when charging at the base at the pier, 3 and 4 accumulator pits exploded. And nothing, the compartment twisted the fourth and all, even smoke did not happen.

[avt]

Quote: Teberii

Fire and explosion, logical.

Actually, it’s more logical - explosion and fire. This is dizelyuha, especially German after a major ,, Argentinean "repair. Hydrogen from batteries and .... a mass grave at the bottom.

[Dezinto]

mdaa .... on a submarine in such a complex mechanism ..... one valve is not going there and you will turn in time .... and everything starts.

In connection with this boat, yesterday I recalled the incident with our submarine where one sailor went to smoke latrine - but not! and he wise guy decided to hide the goby in the filter above the barrel, .... well, smoke began, a fire, a chemical bulk boat, searched for a source of fire for two hours, the two nearly died ..... but then everything ended successfully, even punish the sailor didn’t become some 20-year-old fool .... not well, how could a cigarette be sucked into a filter !!?!?

What am I doing. Anything could happen.

[Berkut154]

And this, incidentally, is not the only case, you can say a classic of the genre!

[Mavrikiy]

An explosion could occur on board the San Juan diesel-electric submarine
Lift - look.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

A very "subtle" remark, and most importantly, "saturated" with intelligence ...

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: MOSKVITYANIN

A very "subtle" remark, and most importantly, "saturated" with intelligence ...

So I say: Tryndet is not necessary.
Our arrived, they will find.

[Herculesic]

Why guess? Until at least they find the boat, you can put forward a hundred gepotiz, about what happened to her! This is the case when only a boat find will give an answer about what happened there.

[rotmistr60]

In any case, the time for a possible salvation has expired. It remains to express only condolences.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: rotmistr60

In any case, the time for a possible salvation has expired. It remains to express only condolences.

Unfortunately, most likely you are right. Surprise the actions of the military leadership of Argentina. The boat does not contact the day, two. Some kind of explosion was recorded. Did they decide that the crew wanted to play hide and seek? They turned to us for help a week later. Is it because of political correctness, or what? Although, what now to say. Time is lost. But, miracles sometimes happen. Maybe these guys are lucky.

[donavi49]

So what's the point? Even if contacted on the first day. And the search ships would go out that day. They would still go to the place today. Well, that is, do not have time in any way.

IL-38H - perhaps, but to the point? First, the United States could block them from moving to Argentina. Even formalized temporarily (and the procedure itself must be legally formalized). Without a transfer - IL-38Н has no way to work because there are no other bases. Yes, and in vain. 3 of Poseidon worked there. They have a more powerful complex.

You do not understand the scale of the task. There is the area 700x200 - where to look for a boat. It is necessary to search by scanning the bottom with sonar. For to remove the noise does not work - there is nothing to make noise. This is work for years.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: donavi49

So what's the point? Even if contacted on the first day.

Yes. Far away of course. It turns out that we were invited to help not in search and rescue, but simply in a search operation. It’s sad.

[Berkut154]

You will know that the "tail" of IL-38, Poseidon, Orion can hook the boat when it is on the go.

[pvv113]

crew of 44 people

There was information in the news that the crew this time was bigger than usual

[Berkut154]

This is a common practice including ours. They could take the industry, or roll back the second crew to the task, or increase the camp staff.

[nesvobodnye]

Can't they even find her?
Darkness disgraced us about Kursk, but we couldn’t quickly raise it. Horrible. And here they can’t even find. Horror horror in general.

[donavi49]

Kursk drowned right at the squadron. And then - the exact place was set for a while to lower the devices.

This boat sank somewhere in the 700x200km area. And you can find it only if the plane / ship passes over it with a sonar. The sonar readings will be correctly processed (it can fragment, be obscured by the bottom topography, etc.). If you are not lucky, this is work for years.

[Berkut154]

Dear aircraft does not have a sonar! The aircraft has a search radar for detecting surface targets and sticking out retractable submarine devices, which is located at periscope depth.

[nesvobodnye]

Thanks for the clarification.

[Ingvar0401]

Interbase transition pl, as far as I know, is carried out in the water position. Even if an explosion occurred, it should not have gone unnoticed ....

[Berkut154]

How is it? Not at all necessary. It depends on what tasks are set for the transition.

[Achtaba1970]

Quote: Berkut154

Dear aircraft does not have a sonar! The aircraft has a search radar for detecting surface targets and sticking out retractable submarine devices, which is located at periscope depth.

And also a magnetometer