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The implementation of the contract for the supply of military BMPT Terminator

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Uralvagonzavod (UVZ), part of Rostec, has launched a contract to supply the Russian Defense Ministry with a batch of support combat vehicles tanks (BMPT) “Terminator,” Vyacheslav Khalitov, deputy head of UVZ for special equipment, said in an interview with Interfax on Thursday.


The implementation of the contract for the supply of military BMPT Terminator


Indeed, at the “Army” forum a state contract was concluded for the supply in the interests of the Ministry of Defense of Russia of a batch of combat vehicles supporting tanks BMPT. The company has started the implementation of this contract.
- he said.

In September, Rostec reported that Uralvagonzavod would supply the Russian Armed Forces next year over 10 BMPT Terminator.

BMPT "Terminator", which will receive the Russian army, will be at the nodes and aggregates of the main tank T-90A.

"Terminator" is a multi-purpose, highly protected combat tracked fire support vehicle with powerful weapons, advanced fire control devices and high maneuverability. It is intended to suppress and destroy enemy tank-dangerous manpower, including those located in shelters. "Terminator" is capable of hitting lightly armored targets, tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, together with military air defense can fight with helicopters and low-flying low-speed aircraft of the enemy.
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  1. Nemesis
    Nemesis 23 November 2017 10: 37
    +7
    10 cars all over Russia is nothing. Such an amount will make the weather only in the army of Monaco ...
    1. PROXOR
      PROXOR 23 November 2017 10: 43
      10
      10 pieces. This is apparently a military test. And apparently they will spend them in Syria.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 23 November 2017 10: 47
        14
        Quote: PROXOR
        10 pieces. This is apparently a military test. And apparently they will spend them in Syria.

        In Syria, Terminators have long been. These 10 BMPT Terminator-2 most likely really go to military tests. We need a clear development of the tactics of application as part of the strike groups in conjunction with tanks, as well as crew training, maybe even the T-90A platform, but the weapon control is somewhat different.
        1. MoJloT
          MoJloT 23 November 2017 10: 56
          +2
          Absolutely, reducing and changing tactics of covering tanks with infantry makes it possible to fully use active defense, without friendly losses.
        2. kapitan92
          kapitan92 23 November 2017 12: 06
          +8
          In September, Rostec reported that Uralvagonzavod would supply the Russian Armed Forces next year over 10 BMPT Terminator.

          Andrey, welcome! Over 10 units is what the MO budget is capable of. Algeria contracted 300 BMPTs and deliveries began. Cho test them then !? hi
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 23 November 2017 13: 23
            +4
            Quote: kapitan92
            Cho test them then !?

            Welcome. hi
            To begin with, the Terminator-2 has a different chassis than the Terminator based on 72-ki, as well as an arsenal. Second, the Russian army has NO experience of using BMPT in combat conditions and there is no clearly developed tactics and strategy. Next, are the crews ready for these cars?
            It makes sense to buy 300-400 cars at once, if there are no crews for them, nor tactics of use or developments? To stand and rust?
            1. kapitan92
              kapitan92 23 November 2017 16: 26
              +7
              Quote: NEXUS
              It makes sense to buy 300-400 cars at once, if there are no crews for them, nor tactics of use or developments? To stand and rust?

              Andrey, all this is correct, but the answer is simple. MO has no funds to purchase! hi
              1. St Petrov
                St Petrov 24 November 2017 10: 34
                0
                MO had funds to upgrade nuclear weapons - and this is much more than the purchase of 1000 BMPT.

                Apparently in the Moscow Region they are able to think and the Nexus arguments are absolutely true

                Terminators will go to study. They will think and think in cycles - and when there is understanding - then it will be clear how much they need to be purchased.

                Exercise machines still need to be done - they will greatly save on crooked hands. Issue operating manuals. Develop tactics. Crews to cook - in general, it’s too early for the army to begin mass purchases.

                Algeria is Algeria. Algeria helped us and gloriously.

      2. Now we are free
        Now we are free 24 November 2017 10: 55
        0
        In the light of the current hostilities, it would be more expedient to replace a pair of 30 mm guns with one / two 57 mm guns, which could destroy the probable enemy from the first hit of a BBM in the frontal projection and place it in a rotating AGS module because its (automatic grenade launcher) functions are most often claimed not in the frontal projection (where BMPTs have two of them), but around the entire circumference of the combat vehicle, and we especially need good vertical elevation angles.
        In addition, we need a defense system against ATGMs, at least an elementary type of “Birdhouses” (I would like to “Curtain” of course), which was used very effectively by SAA in Syria to protect not only tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, but even Asadov’s Tayotachanks.
        BMPT machine that is in demand by time itself, but it already needs to be finalized with the realities of today ...
        1. PROXOR
          PROXOR 24 November 2017 13: 38
          0
          Quote: Now we are free
          In the light of the current hostilities, it would be more expedient to replace a pair of 30 mm guns with one / two 57 mm guns, which could destroy the probable enemy from the first hit of a BBM in the frontal projection and place it in a rotating AGS module because its (automatic grenade launcher) functions are most often claimed not in the frontal projection (where BMPTs have two of them), but around the entire circumference of the combat vehicle, and we especially need good vertical elevation angles.

          Not appropriate. Spark Takm is not for beauty. One barrel pounding with fragments, the second armor-piercing. In an open field, it is more convenient to work with fragments, but to flash a wall with armor-piercing ones.
    2. Zlat070
      Zlat070 23 November 2017 10: 43
      +2
      It says "over ten"! The exact number is the secret!
      1. Burbon
        Burbon 23 November 2017 10: 47
        +6
        Quote: Zlat070
        It says "over ten"! The exact number is the secret!

        12 pieces ....
        1. DMB_95
          DMB_95 23 November 2017 11: 21
          +2
          Quote: Burbon
          Quote: Zlat070
          It says "over ten"! The exact number is the secret!

          12 pieces ....

          Before ordering the production of a large batch, you need to work out the tactics of application, interaction, and much more in the army unit. Well, if, say, rivet 2-3 hundred cars, then whom to entrust them? At least basic retraining and coordination of crews, which so far are not in such numbers, are necessary.
          1. Burbon
            Burbon 23 November 2017 11: 31
            +1
            Quote: DMB_95
            Before ordering production of a large batch

            this technique does not draw at all on the latest .... it sells well ..... I can explain that the earth is flat .... it's all blah blah blah .... they just don't need the RF in large numbers .. .. a pair of separate brigades to arm - yes .... but no ....
            1. DMB_95
              DMB_95 23 November 2017 11: 46
              0
              Quote: Burbon
              ... they simply do not need the Russian Federation in large numbers .... arm a couple of separate brigades - yes .... but no ....

              If BMPTs were created to support tanks, then they probably need to be included in tank brigades. If we form a pair of shock brigades in this way, then under the current conditions this is no longer a bad thing.
              1. Mikado
                Mikado 24 November 2017 10: 23
                0
                I am not a connoisseur of the tactics and structure of tank troops, but it seems that these vehicles should not form separate large formations, but should go towards a qualitative strengthening of existing tank units.
    3. Petr1
      Petr1 23 November 2017 10: 43
      +3
      But in Syria there are even enough 10 tees to clean all the boilers without injuring the tanks.
      1. Don
        Don 23 November 2017 12: 37
        +1
        Quote: Petr1
        But in Syria there are even enough 10 tees to clean all the boilers without injuring the tanks.

        Do not mix them TOU laughing
    4. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 23 November 2017 10: 53
      +3
      Quote: Nemesis
      10 cars all over Russia is nothing. Such an amount will make the weather only in the army of Monaco ...

      And who said that this party is the last? More recently, they also wrote about the Su-34, but meanwhile, they have already riveted a noticeable amount.
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 23 November 2017 10: 56
        +3
        And you do not compare the plane and the fire support vehicle, these are different things and they need different amounts. By the way, the number of modern aircraft in the Russian Aerospace Forces is noticeably behind the number of outdated ones. You need to save on Rublevka and Abramovich’s yachts, and not on the army.
        1. Hagalaz
          Hagalaz 23 November 2017 11: 16
          +2
          But no one is going to stop. Time is running, the conveyor is running
          1. IL-18
            IL-18 23 November 2017 12: 04
            +4
            Not the fact that having run around the polygon and somewhere else, the terminators will remain in their original form. First you need to make sure that this Terminator-2 is a bird, then expand the series. Even in the USSR, a lot of things were invented at first glance by a genius, and not found application after the tests. A tank without a tower with a cannon, but missile weapons was invented in the 60s.
      2. I doubt it
        I doubt it 23 November 2017 12: 54
        +1
        Quote: Hagalaz
        ... about the su-34, but meanwhile, they have already riveted a noticeable amount.

        94 piece.
        For whom is noticeable? For Ukraine, for Georgia, for Lithuania?
        And let's say for the PLA. Yes, even two contracted hundreds of cars will be noticeable?
        And for the USA and NATO. Where only the F-35 is more than two hundred, not counting the F-22. Plus everything else.
        Dust in the eyes, and nothing more.
        Razeb ... nyat for three days.
        And 10 BMPTs, of course, is the force ... Just for the departure of a pair of turntables ...
        1. Hagalaz
          Hagalaz 23 November 2017 14: 38
          +2
          For us, of course, for us. On a canopy and a hat. But. Recently, it wasn’t. And on the count of times .... nyat, this is a very well-defined and multifaceted question, we won’t touch it.
        2. St Petrov
          St Petrov 24 November 2017 10: 51
          0
          94 piece.


          plus another MiG-29SMT, Su-30M2, Su-30SM, Su-35S and Yak-130.

          Also, the troops are Ka-52, Mi-28 and Ansat, There are no need to talk about the Mi-8 of various modifications

          I doubt it


          don't worry
    5. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 23 November 2017 10: 54
      +1
      Such an amount will make the weather only in the army of Monaco ...

      The main thing is that production is established and deliveries begin. Down and Out trouble started.
    6. Topotun
      Topotun 23 November 2017 11: 04
      +5
      This is the minimum that is needed simply to understand where and how to incorporate this technique into the aircraft structure. And is it necessary to do this in principle .... Too much needs to be changed in logistics, crew training, organization of material and technical base, etc. etc ... If you need to throw more.
      1. My doctor
        My doctor 23 November 2017 12: 06
        0
        Quote: Topotun
        This is the minimum that is needed simply to understand where and how to incorporate this technique into the aircraft structure. And is it necessary to do this in principle ....

        The question is how well does he cope with the immediate task? One acquaintance, a former tank regiment, said to him - a cross between a snake and a boa constrictor.
        1. Topotun
          Topotun 23 November 2017 16: 50
          +2
          That's what the installation party is for. Understand, but is it necessary? It’s one thing to drive spirits in the desert and it’s another thing to pick out, for example, Americans from reference points ..... Although this and that must be done ....
        2. proletarian
          proletarian 23 November 2017 21: 42
          0
          But the truth is a cross between a snake and a boa constrictor, at first it will strangle, and after that it will be taken into all the "stuffs" and respiratory.
          Real "jolly", especially in urban settings.
    7. siberalt
      siberalt 23 November 2017 11: 25
      +1
      10 cars, of course, nothing for the army. But the main thing is that “they have begun to implement the contract”! It’s not for you some khukhs — mukhras, such as: “they began to deliver” or “they completed the state order in the amount of ...”. winked
  2. rodz
    rodz 23 November 2017 10: 43
    +1
    Does anyone know how these vehicles will be included in the staff (or support) of tank units ...... from what calculation?
    1. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 23 November 2017 10: 59
      +2
      I am also interested in this question. And now it seems to me that the tactics of their application also have yet to be worked out.
      Here earlier there was an article about the threat from the Javelins. So they are just the client for the Terminators, the means of detection he seems to be suitable.
      1. IL-18
        IL-18 23 November 2017 12: 18
        +3
        A drone drone is not better? Barmalei a plastic Chinese quadrocopter for 200 bucks recently used a grenade in Syria. It is necessary to work with these 10 samples, to study, to experiment, to draw conclusions, most importantly, to include structurally correctly in the unit. Imagine that it suddenly turns out that the effectiveness of this device will start with 2 BMPTs per 1 tank. Will the country's economy, manufacturers, ground forces be able to fulfill? Or it may turn out that a tank platoon with two BMPTs will surpass the company in efficiency. Then part of the existing tank chassis must be adapted for BMPT. Or maybe it’s better to make new ones in addition to the existing ones. So far, and 10 pieces just right.
  3. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 23 November 2017 10: 49
    0
    All the same, so far based on the T-90. The amount is just too small. Options for use: a separate unit in the battalion, I think so.
  4. HEATHER
    HEATHER 23 November 2017 10: 49
    +4
    Over 10 pieces, I think, just an installation batch. And the car is really great.
    1. The brightest
      The brightest 23 November 2017 12: 17
      0
      Rather, 10 not because the installation party, but because not only me, few people understand where the place of this machine is ... They are trying to figure out how to serve this dish.
      1. I doubt it
        I doubt it 23 November 2017 13: 07
        0
        Quote: Lightest
        ... few people understand where the place of this car ...

        In exchange for "shaitan-arba" for example.
  5. Sergey53
    Sergey53 23 November 2017 10: 51
    0
    Yes, an order for as many as 10 BMPTs for the army is cool. Probably 2 for each district. The power is certainly powerful. It seems that 1 BMPT replaces the power of 10 ICBMs. They would need one for each TV or MSV.
  6. K-50
    K-50 23 November 2017 10: 55
    +3
    Finally!!!
    "The ice has broken, gentlemen of the jury!" (c) O. Bender.
    At least something began to change. And then the cry was how much “needed, needed,” but the CB did not arrive in the “pocket”.
  7. burigaz2010
    burigaz2010 23 November 2017 11: 15
    +2
    And someone shouted that our army did not need them? And the fact that 10 pieces are military tests !!!
    1. The brightest
      The brightest 23 November 2017 12: 22
      +1
      I don’t know who was yelling there, but I agree with him.
      What good is it, where exactly do you see her place, fourth in the platoon? So give the beam a full tank and finally a remote control unit for all tanks, then the question with tank-dangerous targets (follower-lead) will be definitely closed. At the same time, as the birds whispered, the AGS will be removed in order to reduce the crew.
      What is the result: the main caliber 30, a couple of ATGMs, can be better protected - yes no ...
  8. Dante
    Dante 23 November 2017 11: 24
    0
    Quote: rodz
    Does anyone know how these vehicles will be included in the staff (or support) of tank units ...... from what calculation?

    And you can borrow experience from the Kazakhs, what prevents?
    I’ll wash them with the 5th and local “terminator 1” if I'm not mistaken.
  9. Sergey824
    Sergey824 23 November 2017 11: 35
    0
    Deliver kits to the unit, this is normal. Do not forget that the main products are also produced. The main thing is that the process has begun. Now the staff structure and tactics.
  10. Young_Communist
    Young_Communist 23 November 2017 11: 38
    +1
    BMPT "Terminator", which will receive the Russian army, will be at the nodes and aggregates of the main tank T-90A.
    By the way, can someone answer what exactly the Syrian modification is called? And that is, the first terminator, based on the T90, is at its first peak. There is a second terminator, based on the T-72, it is at the second peak. And in Syria, they roll some kind of self-propelled gun from the chassis of the first and the module of the second (peak 3, 4).





  11. steelmaker
    steelmaker 23 November 2017 12: 31
    0
    For a year 10 cars! There is simply not enough production capacity! That's all.
  12. Warrior-80
    Warrior-80 23 November 2017 15: 09
    +1
    Where did the protection of the birds go, was it like or again the wrong picture was attached to the article recourse
  13. Saling
    Saling 23 November 2017 15: 12
    0
    My question is: how is this miracle machine going to force water barriers? wink Or will special pontoon units be assigned to it in tank breakthroughs? wink After all, it is not intended for forcing along the bottom; weapons will not allow it. Or is the secret giant nanopreservative or nano-evaporator included in the weapon kit? laughing
    1. dvvv
      dvvv 24 November 2017 10: 56
      0
      very witty saying! Emoticons especially impressed. and now push yourself and remember where, after the Second World War, tanks on the bottom forced water barriers performing real, rather than training, combat missions? And How? Recently, during exercises in the USSR, if I remember correctly. Before you say, think about why this technique and how it can be applied in reality and not the theory of tank wars three days before the La Manche
      1. Saling
        Saling 25 November 2017 11: 52
        0
        Dear, you would have brought WWI as an example. laughing And with memory problems like yours, it's to the doctor.




        These rivulets, as in the video, to your “Terminator”, will not be able to. Good support will be. Brought to the river, and then themselves.
        1. dvvv
          dvvv 25 November 2017 19: 11
          0
          Do you distinguish letters? Read and delve into the meaning of what is written to you! Where, when performing real combat missions, did the tanks force water barriers along the bottom? NOT TRAINING, namely fighting! At least once starting from the first world war?
          1. Saling
            Saling 25 November 2017 19: 20
            0
            Dear "expert" in the history of Soviet BT. Well, remind me where, since 1945, Soviet military equipment was used in real tank attacks against an equal enemy with anti-tank weapons? laughing And not, in marching marches, as in Hungary, Czechoslovakia and Afghanistan? And by the way, if your beloved “Terminator” cannot even complete a simple training task, how is he going to fight NATO on a European theater? wink
            1. dvvv
              dvvv 25 November 2017 19: 25
              0
              Training and parade tasks will be performed by Armata) But we will not fight with NATO? NATO does not want)
            2. dvvv
              dvvv 25 November 2017 19: 32
              0
              NATO is the United States and the Europeans on the trailer, and if they fight, then they won’t come, but just stop giving bucks and oyro and hacking kapets and people at closed exchangers will begin to die in horror) Well, they’ll not sell bull and pig sperm ... you’ll start to grow meat, chicken eggs are also from them. How to fight and with whom you are gathered, you are our miserable strategist)
  14. Saling
    Saling 23 November 2017 15: 46
    0
    Quote: Dante
    Quote: rodz
    Does anyone know how these vehicles will be included in the staff (or support) of tank units ...... from what calculation?

    And you can borrow experience from the Kazakhs, what prevents?
    I’ll wash them with the 5th and local “terminator 1” if I'm not mistaken.

    And when did the Kazakhs become experts in military art?