Foreign agents are bad and European ryurik is good.

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French commentator Renault Girard considers the cold conflict between the EU and Russia to be meaningless, because the European Union needs Russia as much as Russia needs the European Union.


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Renault Girard in Le Figaro recalled that on November 10, the Russian State Duma adopted a law allowing it to rank international media operating in the territory of the Russian Federation as “foreign agents”. This decision was the Kremlin’s response to the decision of the United States to do so with the TV channel "RT", which is controlled by President Putin, cites the opinion of a French journalist "InoSMI". This law is obviously applied to the European media, the author believes.

This measure will reinforce the tendency to destroy the EU-Russia relationship. V. Putin, who came to power in the year of 2000, is increasingly moving away from the European Union.

In the first nine years in power, he followed a friendly policy towards the West. V. Putin’s transition to a tougher line is associated with the expansion of NATO to the east and the “color revolutions” in the former Soviet republics (primarily in Ukraine and Georgia). Putin "had the feeling that the United States is trying to take Russia into the ring." “Once the Kremlin fell into paranoia, the Europeans needed to calm him down. But they did not do that, ”the journalist develops. The result of the “incomprehensible negligence” of Europe turned out to be “the annexation of the Crimea, the separation of Donbass, sanctions against Russia and the retaliatory measures of Moscow.”

The observer does not justify the military “hybrid” reaction of Russia, since it “contradicts the guarantee of territorial integrity provided to Ukraine in exchange for its denuclearization by the President of Russia in December 1994 of the year”.

And here's the problem: “squabbles on the Black Sea and the Dnieper” have hidden important modern issues from Europe and Russia. The current conflict between the West and Moscow "is completely meaningless in terms of threats to their civilization (radical Islam) and the economy (China's Silk Road)."

The author concludes: the EU needs Moscow to give a joint rebuff to “Beijing’s trade hegemony”. Russia also needs Europe: Russians need to build at home what they “so badly need”, namely, the rule of law.

Monsieur Girard, we note, almost in plain language, states that without European Rurik, Russians will never create a state built on the principles of law and equality of all citizens before the law. At the same time, he admits that without Russia, the vaunted democracy of the West will not overcome the expansionist trade that is pushing in from the east, that is, China. At the same time, the journalist forgets that Russia and China are creating something like a strategic alliance, and even conduct joint military exercises.

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  1. +10
    23 November 2017 07: 33
    Russia itself must determine who it needs and for what purpose, and not listen to an opinion that runs counter to our real interests!
    1. +7
      23 November 2017 07: 41
      without European ruriks, Russians will never create a state

      Rurikovich are Russian tsars. Dude, what the hell about the "European Ruriks"? Are you also using Western money with your fingers on the keys?
      1. +16
        23 November 2017 08: 09
        Learn the story! Ruriks are Varangians, Vikings, Normans and so on and so forth!
        Russian tsars? How many were there? Ivan the Terrible and his son Fedor - that's it!
        But I do not want to reduce the rule of lawyers as princes, their merits to our Fatherland! Well, and accordingly, the reign of Ivan IV, which united the disparate principalities of Russia into a single state ...!
        1. +5
          23 November 2017 08: 16
          Rurik is a Slav, not a Viking Norman !!!
          1. +14
            23 November 2017 08: 36
            Come on? Prophetic Oleg too? Mow under the historians of 404?
            No need to rewrite history! She is what she is. But ours!
            1. +12
              23 November 2017 08: 48
              Nationality does not matter, Catherine 2 is German, the spirit and understanding of Russia is important.
              1. +14
                23 November 2017 09: 03
                Vit, here I am talking about too! If a person served Russia faithfully, then nationality does not matter! hi
                1. +9
                  23 November 2017 09: 14
                  Alexander, our land, in essence, tolerates only those who love it and serve it faithfully, there are temporary opportunists, but then they go into oblivion, and people are going through times of troubles, and we live. hi
                  1. +6
                    23 November 2017 09: 23
                    The article is another conjecture of the Western scribbler, wishful thinking.
                    1. +10
                      23 November 2017 09: 31
                      Max hi, figs with her, with the article, here compatriots decided to rewrite history! This is bad! Highly...
                      1. +3
                        23 November 2017 09: 37
                        Quote: Anarchist
                        compatriots decided to rewrite history! This is bad! Highly...

                        Quote: Going
                        History has always caused controversy and disagreement, it is very difficult to get to the bottom of the truth.

                        Rewriting history is not only contemporaries. The ancestors did the same: since they discovered that the paper burns well, many rulers actively used this property to thin out the beds of history for themselves. That is why many historical events have different interpretations, depending on the point of view and nationality of historians.
                    2. +6
                      23 November 2017 09: 33
                      History has always caused controversy and disagreement, it is very difficult to get to the bottom of the truth.
              2. +2
                23 November 2017 09: 23
                Catherine is also possibly a Slav, as East Germans are Slavs, in Germany they are like ruins, 2 different peoples of which artificially united and gave one language. geneticists have long described that in the east the haplogroup R1a predominates, and in the west, R1b.
                and Catherine herself was from the Slavic Slavs (but this is a version, I do not pretend to historical truth).
            2. +2
              23 November 2017 11: 04
              You mow down to the west, rejecting our history, equating Rurik with the Vikings. People like you add confusion to people's minds. The Varangians are a kind of activity, the Slavs of the Baltic seaside, from the island of Ruyan.
          2. +4
            23 November 2017 08: 57
            Quote: Kapitänleutnant
            Rurik is a Slav, not a Viking Norman !!!

            What are you? When Rurik lived there were still no Slavs! In those distant times, wild Latins called us Skladen, not Slavs, though our ancestors themselves called themselves more often Slovenes, or Venets, or somehow somehow, for example, Rusichs, etc. By the way, Venets lived in future Finland, too, hence the name Venus, or, as they now distortedly say, Finland. But Rurik is like that, as if no one knows his origin, like a tattered thread, it is not known where he came from. By the way: “Normans” are northerners, and since he came from the Varyazhsk Sea, it’s like a northerner, or foreign “Norman”. "Viking" is also in the Russian word, and after all the Rurikovichs were Russian-speaking, then therefore they should not be called foreign words.
        2. +1
          23 November 2017 09: 16
          Varangian is not a nationality, but a profession, according to the present - a mercenary.
          if you listen, then the mercenaries in Syria are all Swedes and Norwegians.
          further, Grozny was also Rurikovich.
          but the strangers and those who suffered a lot of harm, these are just the Romanovs.
          who even have a Western surname (came from the name of one city, Rome).
          1. +5
            23 November 2017 09: 44
            Quote: just explo
            .. Grozny was also Rurikovich, but strangers and who brought a lot of harm, these are just the Romanovs, who even have a Western surname (came from the name one city Rome).

            How do you explain this? Romanov is not quite a surname - this is the name of Michael’s grandfather, that is, Mikhail’s father was the son of Roman, the name is really strange and foreign, then the fashion was for foreign names, in connection with the Christianization of the country according to the Greek Orthodox model. But the names of the two grandfathers of Father Michael were: Zakhary and Koshka, hence the name of his father Zakharyin Koshkin. It’s just that in that family such a tradition was to call the family a surname after the names of grandfathers, by the way the church called this dynasty “Zakharyins Koshkiny”, you can check this in pre-revolutionary Christian literature, only that version of the name of the dynasty was used there. That's really: "Thy wonderful deeds, Lord."
        3. +3
          23 November 2017 09: 19
          Quote: Anarchist
          Learn the story! Ruriks are Varangians, Vikings, Normans and so on and so forth!
          Russian tsars? ..

          And what, not Russians lived in Varyazhskaya Rus? "After all, Europeans appeared only by the 16th century, before that all this territory was, by definition, Russia, and most of them lived Rus (Rusichs), though it was still possible to have" Russians ", but then this word was still an adjective and not noun. "Normans", it’s just according to the foreign northerners, residents of the north, so foreigners (not Slovenia) called names of those who live in the north. Yes, by the way, about the" kings ": Rurikovich became kings only after marrying the niece of the last emperor of Byzantium (East- Roman Empire), and before that, they were hired as princes, that is, they were hired workers, just that!
        4. 0
          23 November 2017 11: 25
          Quote: Anarchist
          Ruriks are Varangians, Vikings, Normans and so on and so forth! Russian tsars? How many were there? Ivan the Terrible and his son Fedor - that's it!

          I apologize if I’m not right. From this above it follows that Rurik is the founders of this state. And the Romanov impostors or henchmen of the Vatican.
          Or I realized something wrong.
          1. +2
            23 November 2017 12: 21
            Quote: Heinrich Ruppert
            From this, the above, it follows that Rurik founders of this state. And the Romanov impostors or henchmen of the Vatican.

            I confirm that indeed the Romanovs were proteges of the Vatican, or rather the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. The fact is that in the Xth century that part of Russia (at that time there was still no Europe at all) that today is called Poland fell under the occupation of just Rome, Catholic Rome. And this association, already in the form of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth along the church and not only church lines, was subordinate to the Vatican, which climbed into everything, often other people's affairs and tried to increase its sphere of influence, naturally for financial reasons. True as impostors, they are all imposters there, always ascribing religious privileges to themselves, such as “King from God”, etc. In order to ascend to the throne, they first killed all the Rurikovichs, then held a “feint with their ears” and held an “election” in the form of a cathedral, limited by “its circle”, to the Cathedral. So forgery and seized power in the state created by the Rurikovich. In general, before all this mess in Russia there were no tsars or self-proclaimed princes, for thousands of years people have lived in the conditions of democracy, and they simply hired protection in the form of princes from anywhere. It’s just that in the west (because of Rome) there were endless wars, which we never had, there was more experience there and from there initially these Rurikovich were hired. The militia of Minin and Pozharsky upset the plans of the Polish lords, the Romanovs were chosen, and the power did not come to the Commonwealth in Russia of Muscovy. So we have got an independent state, without any Rome and Catholicism accompanying it. True, Alexei M. introduced the Greek Christian religion all the same, as it were, and Peter had already completed all these unseemly things, etc.
            1. +1
              23 November 2017 13: 49
              Quote: venaya
              I confirm that indeed the Romanovs were proteges of the Vatican, or rather the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. The fact is that in the Xth century that part of Russia (at that time there was still no Europe at all) that today is called Poland fell under the occupation of just Rome, Catholic Rome. And this association, already in the form of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth along the church and not only church lines, was subordinate to the Vatican, which climbed into everything, often other people's affairs and tried to increase its sphere of influence, naturally for financial reasons

              Absolutely, it is precisely the “financial reason”. Since this education had a territory rich in resources.

              Quote: venaya
              True as impostors, they are all imposters there, always ascribing religious privileges to themselves, such as “King from God”, etc. In order to ascend to the throne, they first killed all the Rurikovichs, then held a “feint with their ears” and held an “election” in the form of a cathedral, limited by “its circle”, to the Cathedral.

              It’s true, otherwise it didn’t work to bring it all under the “Roman law” of the mission of money. Creating Trusts.

              Quote: venaya
              So forgery and seized power in the state created by the Rurikovich. In general, before all this mess in Russia there were no tsars or self-proclaimed princes, for thousands of years people have lived in the conditions of democracy, and they simply hired protection in the form of princes from anywhere.

              By this they destroyed the order that existed in this territory. Established their gangster predatory oligarchy.
              Quote: venaya
              It’s just that in the west (because of Rome) there were endless wars, which we never had, there was more experience

              Absolutely true. The Vatican does not have experience. Since this is the oldest institutional authority in this area of ​​history. The most interesting thing is that the whole world still lives according to this Roman law. Also, under the Law of the Sea or as it is also called Act 1666. It was adopted in 1666. An example of this is the surrender of Japan was signed on the battleship ie on the water.
              Quote: venaya
              The militia of Minin and Pozharsky upset the plans of the Polish lords,

              I would call it the Vatican's plans upset.
        5. 0
          23 November 2017 17: 59
          Look Zadornov "Rurik. Forgotten Russia", if you do not have enough patience and desire to delve yourself.
      2. +9
        23 November 2017 08: 10
        Dude is not to blame. He simply "surveyed" the article of a Frenchman killed from despair. I’ve been reading Chuvakin for three years, man, well done.
        Nobody bothers you, to read, translate, brainwash, post an article and put it on the site?
      3. +4
        23 November 2017 08: 22
        Quote: Vladimir16
        without European ruriks, Russians will never create a state

        Rurikovich are Russian tsars. Dude, what the hell about the "European Ruriks"? Are you also using Western money with your fingers on the keys?

        Oleg, does not deserve insults. He is an experienced journalist, and has long been at VO. better learn the story ...
        1. +4
          23 November 2017 08: 38
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          Quote: Vladimir16
          without European ruriks, Russians will never create a state

          Rurikovich are Russian tsars. Dude, what the hell about the "European Ruriks"? Are you also using Western money with your fingers on the keys?

          Oleg, does not deserve insults. He is an experienced journalist, and has long been at VO. better learn the story ...

          I didn’t finish, History is a very complicated subject, and disputes continue to this day. (whose Rurik) There is no consensus, but there is a "Tale of Bygone Years" -Many legends about the appearance of the Varangian Rurik in Russia. Some historians consider him a Scandinavian, others - a Slav. But the best story about this event is "Tales of Bygone Years", left by the chronicler Nestor. From his narrative it follows that Rurik, Sineus and Truvor are the grandchildren of the Novgorod prince Gostomysl. The prince lost all his four sons in battle, he only had three daughters. One of them was married to a Varangian-Ross and gave birth to three sons. It was them, their grandchildren, that Gostomysl called to reign in Novgorod. Rurik became Prince of Novgorod, Sineus went to Beloozero, and Truvor to Izborsk. Three brothers became the first tribe and the Rurikovich family tree began with them. It was the year 862 AD. The dynasty was in power until 1598, ruled the country for 736 years. - Read more on FB.ru: http://fb.ru/article/166110/rodoslovnaya-ryurikov
          ichey-shema-s-datami-pravleniya # image03 But, using the most modern example, we see how you can rewrite any History. Alas. request
          1. +2
            23 November 2017 09: 18
            This is the most plausible and profitable interpretation of history and it seems like this is the official version.

            And a similar situation for Catherine2, she was not a pure German.
          2. 0
            23 November 2017 12: 19
            And Zadornov made a couple of films on the same topic. You can also see - very entertaining.
      4. +1
        23 November 2017 09: 13
        Quote: Vladimir16
        European Ruriks - good

        Here it is not necessary to carry nonsense. Rurik was a Slavic prince, do not indulge Normanism.
    2. +2
      23 November 2017 10: 02
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Russia itself

      Yes, no questions. Only all body movements are carried out by Russia through organs (mouth for rhetoric, hands for leadership, fingers for tricks) authorized by someone (people, individuals or legal entities-beneficiaries, non-residents-beneficiaries) of members of collective or performing posts of sole management bodies. Who will personify Russia on the formulated question? Without a power of attorney, the first person can. Again. And to fight with the broads? I remember the second half-tandem of ensigns was canceled. Canceled or not, who knows? Because we will distract the President from the war with the broads, and the ensigns will privatize something out of habit. And they will sell them. To entrust the rest with a half-tandem? And so already inherited in history, do not, huh? Remain Berkova with Sobchak. The “partners” would not have had an STI because of their tolerance in the process of relations, well this is not our concern. Trust? The authorization procedure is not clear. Should the President anyway?
  2. +2
    23 November 2017 07: 33
    Strange this Girard, however such he is not alone. And the conclusion is strange. * I need you, so you need me too *. At first they crap in the media, then they imposed sanctions at the state level, and now they demand * normalization of relations *.
    They require normalization from RUSSIA.
    1. +3
      23 November 2017 07: 47
      Quote: Vasily50
      Strange this Girard, however such he is not alone. And the conclusion is strange. * I need you, so you need me too *. At first they crap in the media, then they imposed sanctions at the state level, and now they demand * normalization of relations *.
      They require normalization from RUSSIA.

      Their problem is that Russia has nothing to offer them in general. So they are embracing "universal values." Read: "breed sucker."
      1. 0
        23 November 2017 08: 04
        they will be happy-- live at the level of Uganda
        time will tell who is to blame for the destruction of Yugoslavia and the change of regimes around the world
    2. +1
      23 November 2017 08: 27
      Quote: Vasily50
      They require normalization from RUSSIA.

      Why wonder? All statements of Western politicians and the press are thoroughly saturated with lies and duplicity. And then they sincerely wonder why relations with Russia are not developing.
    3. 0
      23 November 2017 09: 22
      We need to make actions beneficial for the country and after a certain time the situation will stabilize.

      For example, reduce the supply of gas to the EU and lower the price of gas in the Russian Federation.

      After this simple procedure, our industry will begin to develop giving jobs, and they will fade.
    4. +1
      23 November 2017 10: 08
      Quote: Vasily50
      They require normalization from RUSSIA.

      What are you surprised at? Have you ever noticed that the husband is always to blame for the porridge that burnt down at the wife? One should remember the popular wisdom about "a good wife every two weeks, and such - as soon as the hands are released!"
  3. +2
    23 November 2017 07: 34
    You Europeans fell into paranoia. From fairy tales about balalaika and bears.
    1. +3
      23 November 2017 07: 39
      It’s not paranoia. While they believed that Russia was not going anywhere from them and would dance to their tune, there was only one conversation. But as soon as the hut turned smile "to the East, and back to the West, the tone of the songs began to change. The great thing is freedom of choice. A lot of Wishlist are immediately driven into a reasonable framework.
  4. +2
    23 November 2017 07: 42
    Ruriks we still did not have enough. Here is Oleg - Rurik, and what else is it that for the blueprinted, colorful and irresponsible one, he is climbing to teach us, having no idea what is going on? Gerard Rürick, Christmas trees, sticks, everything only from his bell tower - how to use Russia against whom or for what. Get out of there, boobies.
    1. +2
      23 November 2017 08: 32
      Quote: iliitch
      Here is Oleg - Rurik

      Dude? fellow Olezhka! - with all my heart! drinks You’ll be crowned, don’t forget to cover the "clearing" on the VO ... laughing wink lol
      1. +3
        23 November 2017 08: 57
        He’ll cover it! Only the monitor will crack from checks wink
  5. +5
    23 November 2017 07: 44
    The depth of the "Mind" Frenchman is simply amazing. "you ... allow yourself with swagger absolutely unbearable to give any advice on a cosmic scale and cosmic same stupidity" - this is exactly about him.
  6. +4
    23 November 2017 07: 49
    Putin "had the feeling that the US was trying to take Russia into the ring." “Once the Kremlin fell into paranoia, the Europeans needed to reassure him. But they didn’t. ”

    There is still need to figure out who fell into paranoia. Insolence and cynicism are just going wild! Black is declared white, and those who doubt it are abnormal! And how in such situations to talk with Western animals? That's right, it is necessary, just as with animals, the language of kicks and dentists, because it is obvious that the words on them do not make any impression.
    1. +3
      23 November 2017 08: 00
      Quote: Antianglosaks
      That's right, it is necessary, just as with animals, the language of kicks and dentists, because it is obvious that the words on them do not make any impression.

      Well, about animals you are in vain. They just perfectly understand the affectionate word and kind attitude (well, except that donkeys are an exception, although you can teach them without a stick). And for those whom we are talking about, the term of my granny is suitable - "Not Christ, what to take from them."
    2. 0
      23 November 2017 08: 19
      Absolutely your truth. This is what kind of brain you need to have in order to put everything upside down and present it on the "white eye" as truth. Theater of the absurd! To express the rest of the emotions, a continuous “peak-peak” is required. I don’t agree on only one thing - the belly understands affection and kind attitude, but the human individual only through his own ass.
      1. 0
        23 November 2017 08: 20
        I’ll add ... a “bursting” individual.
        1. 0
          23 November 2017 09: 26
          I would say a little differently "impunity provokes crimes."
  7. +4
    23 November 2017 07: 54
    “Once the Kremlin fell into paranoia, the Europeans needed to reassure him.
    Now wait, you will fall into paranoia. We will replace the warheads with more powerful ones. And we will withdraw from the agreements. There will be a little more paranoid in Europe than a lot. Wait.
  8. +1
    23 November 2017 07: 59
    I don’t want to be a geyropu laughing and my children do not want. I hope that both grandchildren and great-grandchildren ... we were in Europe and in China. And on business, and so, take a look ... What do they want to attract us with? By science? Science dies in them, at conferences there is no one to talk to, in technology only Germans. And the Italians, Czechs, Danes working on them ... The topics are small, the tasks are very primitive ... Longing ...
  9. 0
    23 November 2017 08: 03
    Russia also needs Europe: the Russians need to build in themselves what they “are so sorely lacking,” namely, the rule of law.
    Oh, just please without the EU, with its tolerant attitude towards everything that happens. We can handle it somehow. We have enough western tips in the 90s. We still cannot recover.
  10. +3
    23 November 2017 08: 13
    to the paddling pool a stale toad caught ??? carries all nonsense!
  11. +1
    23 November 2017 08: 17
    The result of "incomprehensible negligence" of Europe turned out to be "the annexation of Crimea, the separation of Donbass

    To call a pro-fascist coup in a country whose president has just sworn support for "negligence" is so European. sad negative
    Are they embarrassed that they should call a spade a spade? And do not be shy of their stupidities?
  12. 0
    23 November 2017 08: 29
    And why did he get the idea that we are sorely lacking a zoopedomosyaksky state?
    1. 0
      23 November 2017 08: 54
      zoopedomosyaksky


      Wow! Well this is how much you need to think about it, that would make up such a word!
      1. 0
        23 November 2017 09: 55
        Quote: Deck
        zoopedomosyaksky


        Wow! Well this is how much you need to think about it, that would make up such a word!

        education is the main thing! and then experience. lol
  13. +1
    23 November 2017 08: 32
    They themselves do not notice that their rhetoric is similar to the Soviet era of decline. Only the banner and they are different - "Liberalism and Tolerance"
  14. 0
    23 November 2017 08: 36
    Russians need to build in themselves what they “are so sorely lacking,” namely, the rule of law.

    ... i.e. as they got into our policy, they will do so ...
  15. 0
    23 November 2017 08: 45
    Putin is increasingly moving away from the European Union.

    This is not Putin moving away, but Europe is building more and more fences
  16. 0
    23 November 2017 08: 49
    Russophobic infantilism of the frogs is not even annoying.
  17. +1
    23 November 2017 08: 57
    "And here's the problem:" squabbles on the Black Sea and the Dnieper "hid important modern issues from Europe and Russia. The current conflict between the West and Moscow is" completely pointless in terms of threats to their civilization (radical Islam) and the economy (Silk Road of China). " "
    Actually, in the Black Sea and Ukraine there is no "squabble" at all, it is a full-fledged test of Russia for "lice". Hang on or not. We refused to dry. And thank God. As for the so-called threats, so who created them? France seems to have been actively participating in Sabantui in the Middle East. Those. one of the creators of these threats. So there’s nothing to blame for the mirror.
  18. BAI
    0
    23 November 2017 09: 11
    in terms of threats to their civilization (radical Islam) and the economy (Silk Road of China). ”

    In my opinion, these are all the problems of Europe. Goods from China to Russia can also be delivered without the Silk Road.
  19. +1
    23 November 2017 09: 16
    Quote: afrikanez
    Oh, just please without the EU, with its tolerant attitude towards everything that happens. We can handle it somehow. We have enough western tips in the 90s. We still cannot recover.

    Here, homegrown, too, could not do. I can’t remember and look at the marked Judas and the near drunk without a mat. This is what happens when a monkey flies the plane. It looks like we just landed and whether another question will fly up.
  20. 0
    23 November 2017 09: 20
    I have long assumed that Europe makes a fatal mistake, they will ensure that civilization centers cross from west to east and Europe turns into a backwater, correctly Putin used to say about Western politicians about Western politicians "they don’t want to think strategically, at least a few moves ahead"
  21. 0
    23 November 2017 10: 00
    Monsieur Girard ... without European Ruriks, Russians will never create a state based on the principles of law and the equality of all citizens before the law
    How scarce are the thoughts and conclusions of Monsieur. Where is the "bast" Russia without the "enlightened" Europe in the construction of the state.
  22. 0
    23 November 2017 10: 14
    The division of Russia in 1991 on Western patterns and the West’s claim to control the western lands split off from it speaks of the continuation of the war of the EU and the USA against Russia. The frogman believes that Russia cannot do without its enemies and that it is better for them with these enemies than without them.
    Threat. Genetic analysis of the descendants of Rurikovich showed that Rurik was not a Varangian, as was previously thought, but was a Baltic Slav. And he also washed himself in a bathhouse, in contrast to the bloodshot in the endless wars of Europe.
  23. 0
    23 November 2017 10: 56
    can put his "rule of law" in one place. me and tyranny is good.
  24. 0
    23 November 2017 11: 21
    It turns out that the EU’s goal is to impose its overlord with us and to move together to China? And HU-HO is not HU-HU?
  25. +2
    23 November 2017 11: 47
    Quote: Anarchist
    Learn the story! Ruriks are Varangians, Vikings, Normans and so on and so forth!

    Rurik is the son of the Obodritian prince Godlav and the grandson of the Novgorod prince Gostomysl.
    Encouraged - the Slavs who lived on the now-Germanized lands on the southern coast of the Baltic Sea.
    The Vikings and Normans lived in Scandinavia.
    Bayer, the "Russian" historian of German origin, pushed Rurik's Norman theory of descent, for which he somehow shunned Lomonosov's physiognomy.