Poland bought kamikaze drones

According to the portal defense-blog.com, the Polish Defense Ministry purchased Warmate Micro Combat Unmanned Aircraft System kits from the WB Group 100 company. Warmate is positioned as an alternative to anti-tank guided missiles, allowing you to hit targets at a longer range, as well as to carry out loitering in search of a target for a long time.

Each of the Warmate kits contains 10 drones, as well as a set of warheads and reconnaissance modules of various types. The cost of the transaction is estimated at 100 million zlotys (about $20 million).

The company WB Group calls Warmate unmanned combat system. The drone can be controlled by the operator or fly the programmed route. Ammunition comes in a wearable or portable version. The design of the drone provides for the possibility of its installation on the vehicle, as well as the integration of the station management system and the data processing terminal with the platform equipment.

The wing span of the Warmate is 1,4 m, the length is 1,1 m, the target range is up to 12 km, the maximum flight duration is 50 min. The drone is equipped with an electric motor that accelerates it to a maximum speed of 80 km / h. The Warmate system is a multi-purpose and, depending on the installed head, can be used to collect information and reconnaissance (GS9 head with a video camera), attack enemy manpower (fragmentation warhead), conduct reconnaissance and destroy armored targets (cumulative combat head part). Starting drone by using a pneumatic installation. Management of ammunition is carried out by one operator "Warspot"

Comments

[svp67]

Yeah ... Apparently we should expect something like that on the contact line in the Donbass ....

[rotmistr60]

target destruction range - up to 12 km, maximum flight duration - 50 min

And it seems to me that this is more for a possible confrontation with Ukraine, taking into account increasingly deteriorating relations.

100 million zlotys (about $ 20 million)

The Poles are not such fools to give expensive "toys" to Ukrainians (knowing that they will not buy).

[svp67]

Quote: rotmistr60

The Poles are not such fools to give expensive "toys" to Ukrainians (knowing that they will not buy).

And who was talking about the sale? Despite all the difficulties of the political situation, but Poland is present on its own special forces in the Donbass and will be present as long as possible. And accordingly, they use this position as the capabilities of the polygon.

[rotmistr60]

I agree with that. Where else is Poland, if not in the Donbass, to run its latest products.

[Going]

This is essentially a fighting robot - kamikaze, dangerous things.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: rotmistr60

And it seems to me that this is more for a possible confrontation with Ukraine, taking into account increasingly deteriorating relations.

I heard the opposite, namely this:

08.09.2017
... at the exhibition of the defense industry MSPO - 2017, which is being held in Kielce, the Ukrainian Spetstekhnoexport Group of Companies signed a contract for the purchase of a batch of unmanned ammunition Warmate for the Ukrainian armed forces. They are produced by the Polish private company WB Electronics SA contract details are not disclosed.
It is worth recalling that in December 2016, at the Goncharovsk training ground near Chernigov, the Ukrainian military tested unmanned combat systems - both ground and air. And then it was about Warmate ammunition.
The NSDC Secretary Alexander Turchinov at that moment said that such weapons were needed at the forefront. Although, in fact, the Warmate strike drone was introduced back in 2016 at the Girls ’training ground. He was even seen by Poroshenko. There were statements about their production plans for the Ukrainian Armed Forces at the Chernihiv Radio Instrument Plant OJSC and projects of various applications, for example, at the Sokol reconnaissance-strike complex, which includes elements of the WB Electronics Warmate unmanned aerial aircraft complex in an armored car. Now it has come to procurement. Https: //bin.ua/top/210317-drony-kamikadze
-kakre-oruzhie-ukraina-kupila-v.html

As you can see, diplomatic fuss does not affect military-technical cooperation between these countries. Yes, and I think that NATO does not plan to foment a military conflict between one of the members and their unofficial partner, but definitely an ally. In the EU and in Brussels there are all the levers to prevent such a conflict from erupting. These two countries are too important for the bloc, so direct confrontation is unlikely. A household and political squabbles are a trifle in comparison with NATO's strategic plans and there is always the opportunity to restrain the hooligans.

[Slovak]

The Poles know that ukrovoyaki will sell drones, this is the main reason why there will be no gifts.

[n0001]

Ukraine bought from Poland a license for these unmanned aerial vehicles

[just exp]

Well, I would not say that expensive toys, I also thought that they were expensive, but it turns out to be cheaper than ATGMs.

Polish Ministry of Defense purchases from WB Group 100 kits Warmate Micro Combat Unmanned Aircraft System

Each of the Warmate kits contains 10 drones.

that is, 1000 UAVs are obtained, and all this costs together with control centers and other systems

100 million zlotys (about $ 20 million)

that is, along with all the infrastructure, one UAV costs about 20 thousand bucks, the same Javelin emnip 250 thousand costs. that is, one ATGM is more expensive than the entire set of 10 UAVs.

[210ox]

I understand this thing as a serious one. And I think that we will find opposition.

[voyaka uh]

They, as I understand it, have a simple version with folding wings.
More practical with wings and tube launch.
They are easier to store and bring to the battlefield.

[Going]

It turns out a smart, small, cruise missile for a large number of purposes.

[Thunderbolt]

_______________________For clarity.

[Krasnyiy komissar]

Poland itself is a kamikaze, so there is nothing surprising here. The next war should end not with another section, but with the liquidation of this state. Yes, I’m talking about the destruction of several tens of millions during a limited nuclear war in geyrop. Russophobes should not be captured, but eliminated by all available means, including the use of WMD. Destroy one - everyone around them will tighten their tails like broken dogs, hoping to survive during the most severe meat grinder.
And remember the words of one of their leaders. Pilsudsky: “My dream is to reach Moscow and write on the Kremlin wall:“ It is forbidden to speak Russian. ” My dream is to see the ruins of enemy cities, which are natives walking around like zombies, natives who fight for every rat that has been caught.

[voyaka uh]

"My dream is to see the ruins of enemy cities,
on which the natives adored by the Russian atom walk like zombies "////

There are many such maniacs, you are not alone ...

[just exp]

live with wolves (to be neighbors to the west) ....

[xetai9977]

to see the ruins of enemy cities, which are natives walking like zombies, natives who fight for every rat that has been caught

[Old26]

If I correctly understood 100 sets - this is 1000 drones. Quite a serious weapon and also multi-purpose

Quote: 210ox

I understand this thing as a serious one. And I think that we will find opposition.

Hard to tell. After all, it can be controlled not only by the operator, but also act programmatically. In any case, the target with dimensions of a meter and a half is difficult enough to defeat

[LVMI1980]

It’s time to attribute drones to cruise missiles with all the consequences (RMSD agreement)

[Going]

Soon, those who are behind in this will put this issue on the agenda.

[HMR333]

Well, it’s not more profitable to buy rockets and they are smaller in size and easier to transport! In general, an unmanned kamikaze is generally a hellless heresy!

[Thunderbolt]

He is reconnaissance-strike ... he himself can seek out the target and hit.

[Vadim237]

For the destruction of air defense systems, the very thing is that several thousand will be launched and C-400 Shells will be powerless against them.

[just exp]

These UAVs are cheaper than missiles.
True, a flight speed of 80km an hour is also not so hot for a striking munition.

[Separ DNR]

Quote: svp67

Apparently we should expect something like that on the contact line in the Donbass ....

A month ago, information on this issue was already circulated.
And if they really appear, then EW funds are needed. They say that they are somewhere , but it is "somewhere" at the time of their application, we will not be happy.
From the word TOTALLY

[Lelek]

Quote: Separ DNR

A month ago, information on this issue was already circulated.

Hey. These packaging bars have been in operation since May. But until now, the generals of “unsigned” do not understand what the hell it is, if Russia does not have the slightest desire to attack anyone. It seems that delusional thoughts conquer only the half-crazy Matserevich.

[Old26]

Quote: LVMI1980

It’s time to attribute drones to cruise missiles with all the consequences (RMSD agreement)

And rocket-propelled grenades for ballistic missiles?

Quote: HMR333

Well, it’s not more profitable to buy rockets and they are smaller in size and easier to transport! In general, an unmanned kamikaze is generally a hellless heresy!

A missile, except for defeat, cannot be used. And this UAV can work both as a scout and as a strike. Moreover, with such dimensions it is difficult to hit it right away. He can catch it earlier

[kojak]

The Warmate wing span is 1,4 m, length - 1,1 m, target destruction range - up to 12 km, maximum flight duration - 50 minutes. The drone is equipped with an electric motor that accelerates it to a maximum speed of 80 km / h.

maximum flight duration - 1,5 hours
maximum speed 150 km / h
armor penetration of 240 mm RHA steel

[hezbola]

our answer to kurvacemberlen would be a kamikaze with caterpillars just so that it could come under the enemy’s technique bypassing all the defenses. so that it could be launched from under water by saboteurs.

[Metlik]

Most likely attacks from above, diving, which means it hits the most vulnerable spot of the tank.