Only subtitles: MP proposed to ban the showing of dubbed films on Russian TV

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The deputy of the Legislative Assembly of the Leningrad Region, Vladimir Petrov, addressed the Ministry of Education and Science with a proposal to ban dubbed foreign films for broadcast on Russian television, the channel reports RT.

Only subtitles: MP proposed to ban the showing of dubbed films on Russian TV




Programs, films and serials should be broadcast only with the original sound, but with subtitles in Russian. According to the author of the proposal, it will encourage citizens to learn foreign languages.

In some countries, particularly in the Scandinavian countries, there is a successful practice of popularizing and stimulating the population to learn languages: foreign-made television films and serials, including children’s, as a rule, English-language, are broadcast on the general air without any duplicate translation, but with subtitles in their native language,
Petrov explained.

He is confident that "this way pushes viewers to independently learn the language even in a passive, background mode." This practice is widely used on television in Denmark, Sweden and Norway, Finland and Portugal.

The deputy was supported by Dina Nikulicheva, a researcher at the Institute of Linguistics of the Russian Academy of Sciences, a specialist in polyglossia (simultaneous proficiency in several languages).

One of the secrets why people in some European countries speak so well at least two foreign languages ​​is that they only translate foreign films for very young viewers. For adults and children of primary school age, everything is shown with subtitles. This motivates the child to read faster in their native language and to perceive a foreign language by ear. Children love to watch the same cartoon many times, and this is a good exercise to enhance listening skills,
she said.

According to her, “usually it does not take much time for people to get used to reading text from the screen”.

In addition, it will significantly reduce the cost of preparing a film or television program for broadcast: “producing subtitles is much cheaper than selecting and working with a whole group of actors and subsequent processing in a tone studio”
Executive Director of the International Academy of Television and Radio Sergey Erofeev noted in turn.

However, dubbing actor Vsevolod Kuznetsov expressed the opinion that the official ban on the translation of films would only aggravate the situation with poor-quality content - people who are not used to subtitles will watch movies with a handicraft translation on the Internet.

This is an offer of enemies of the Russian language, just an enemy action. Any dubbing actor gets into the role as much as possible, tries to convey the meaning, the atmosphere. Professional translation is done. Of course, there are flaws, but if you prohibit duplicate, this will lead to the fact that people will stop watching movies on TV and switch, for example, to the Internet, where these films will be translated do not understand anyone. What for? It is better to promote films where the translation is made in competent Russian,
stated Kuznetsov.

He added that in many large cities there are cinemas, where films are shown exclusively with subtitles, while “they are not popular with Russian viewers”.

Most of all, the elderly will suffer from possible innovations, who will not be able to adapt to the subtitles, the actor is sure.

His opinion is shared by the chairman of the central council of the Russian Pensioner Party for Justice, Vladimir Burakov.

Grandmothers and grandfathers with poor eyesight are unlikely to be able to read these titles, it is much more comfortable for them to perceive the text by ear. Even if the subtitles are large, they flicker very quickly, and older people read slowly and half the film just will not understand. They will only watch foreign cinema as funny pictures,
he stated.
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  1. +46
    19 November 2017 12: 11
    They want to teach us to look and think in a foreign language.
    Is this a diversion?
    1. +50
      19 November 2017 12: 16
      If I had problems like this deputy, I would be curly-curly smile
      1. +17
        19 November 2017 12: 33
        They have no problems but to occupy themselves.
        1. +5
          19 November 2017 15: 16
          let the bald one be driven
          1. Alf
            +3
            19 November 2017 21: 57
            Quote: Hammerlock
            let the bald one be driven

            Let this deputy watch porn, neither translation nor subtitles are needed there.
            1. +4
              20 November 2017 07: 23
              Quote: Alf
              Let this deputy watch porn, neither translation nor subtitles are needed there.

              Do you think he looked something else before making his "brilliant" proposal?
              An overdose of a deputy ...
              1. Alf
                +1
                20 November 2017 21: 25
                Quote: Mik13
                Quote: Alf
                Let this deputy watch porn, neither translation nor subtitles are needed there.

                Do you think he looked something else before making his "brilliant" proposal?
                An overdose of a deputy ...

                Rather, sperm toxicosis.
      2. +19
        19 November 2017 12: 47
        Quote: Thrall
        If I had problems like this deputy, I would be curly-curly

        My belief is that today, the State Duma is not only not a necessary rudiment, but also archived for us!
        1. +43
          19 November 2017 12: 53
          I propose not to stand on ceremony with these actors and:
          1. Vladimir Petrov, deputy of the Leningrad Oblast Legislative Assembly, with his proposal to the Ministry of Education and Science to prohibit dubbing foreign films from showing on Russian television, could simply be sent on an erotic journey, and recalled from deputies for professional inappropriateness, taken away from him a deputy mandate and not allowed to go to the legislature for so many years on 10 -12.
          2. Dina Nikulicheva, a researcher at the Institute of Linguistics of the Russian Academy of Sciences, who supported Vl. Petrova, do not get into politics if it does not understand anything in it.
          3. To dismiss the executive director of the International Academy of Television and Radio, Sergey Erofeea, because he is thoughtlessly guided solely by corporate private-ownership monetarist considerations and does not correspond to his position for the national security of the Russian Federation.
          1. +3
            19 November 2017 12: 56
            And then what to do with the young generators of idiotic initiatives from the LDPR faction in the State Duma? smile
            1. +7
              19 November 2017 13: 06
              Thrall
              And then what to do with the young generators of idiotic initiatives from the LDPR faction in the State Duma?
              To reprimand for them - the LDPR party party blockheads - to Zhirinovsky himself! He is very jealous of any undermining of his own person’s rating!
              LDPR Zhirinovsky needs, of course, as an eternal pedestal for him in politics - and not only for this! Therefore, Zhirinovsky is forced to take care that this "pedestal" does not turn under it into an unstable flooded swamp bump. The idiots from the LDPR, Zhirinovsky usually does not drive - he needs the size of the party - but he doesn’t push them “up”.
            2. +11
              19 November 2017 13: 12
              Send to agricultural work - with the aim of gaining working skills and airing the head of absurd ideas laughing
              1. +5
                19 November 2017 13: 30
                Quote: dzuar saubarag
                Send to agricultural work - with the aim of gaining working skills and airing the head of absurd ideas

                he will not work there
                1. +3
                  19 November 2017 16: 13
                  Kamrad, I, as a person with experience (the head of the excavation site), I will say, be! With songs and joy! angry
                  1. +2
                    19 November 2017 16: 28
                    maybe with joy, but filthy
                    such a degenerate will even dig potatoes through one place
            3. +2
              19 November 2017 13: 16
              Quote: Thrall
              young generators of idiotic initiatives

              send the forest to cut, all, not only from the LDPR faction!
              1. +7
                19 November 2017 13: 55
                On the one hand, the indignation of the initiative is understandable. But on the other hand, when DVDs appeared, and in them the originals with subtitles, I somehow unconsciously began to choose the option of viewing in the enemy language with my own letters. What is wrong if the adversary knows that any soldier can interrogate him as soon as he surrenders? He will be in captivity well, his valuable information will definitely be appreciated and will be well fed.
                Is it really bad if a Russian warrior learns in one hour the instructions for using a trophy device and applies the knowledge gained on the enemy? Yes, and after the transition of world leadership from the USA to Russia, it is much easier to explain the true democratic values ​​in their language to Aboriginal people from New York. Not only everyone can look to the future. wink
                1. +8
                  19 November 2017 14: 40
                  IL-18 Today, 13:55. Or maybe let the English learn Russian? Suddenly captured by the Russians? Have we played with embedding in the global economy? We use their goods, study their language, and tomorrow what will we do? Elect their president? Why not? After all, everything is the worst. And goods, and deputies, and presidents! But they have all the best! Is this what we are going to do today? After all, there is very little left. Just learn English and that’s it! Nafig Russian if all the best there !? So we will soon be talking about Russia as a backward country that the British saved! Overton's windows in action !?
                  1. +3
                    19 November 2017 17: 06
                    And we always taught the future aggressor languages, did not disdain.
                  2. +1
                    19 November 2017 18: 39
                    Quote: Region 34
                    Nafig Russian if all the best there!

                    Do you read Russian well? It is proposed that foreign films not be duplicated, and not Russian into English. Or are you like that aunt Sarah, who came to New York and is indignant that she has been living here for three years "and yet not one bastard has yet learned Russian" Do you want it or not, and English is the language of international communication, like Russian on the territory of the Russian Federation.
                    1. +6
                      19 November 2017 18: 58
                      verner1967 Today, 18:39. *** Do you want it or not, and English is the language of international communication *** And why not Russian as the international language? Because they allowed the British to sit on their necks. *** Or are you like that aunt Sarah, who came to New York and is indignant that she has been living here for three years "and yet not one bastard did not learn Russian" *** Yes, yes, yes! Since the 90s, Russia has bowed to the West and not all Russians have yet learned the language of the host! sad
                      1. +1
                        19 November 2017 19: 33
                        Quote: Region 34
                        Why isn’t Russian international?

                        and you ask the population of the earth? Who makes them learn English and prohibits learning Russian
                        Quote: Region 34
                        Yes Yes Yes! Since the 90s, Russia has bowed to the West and not all Russians have yet learned the language of the host!

                        What are you doing? You suggest us to study Tajik or Uzbek because there are many of them in our cities?
                      2. +3
                        19 November 2017 21: 15
                        Quote: 34 region
                        verner1967 Today, 18:39. *** Do you want it or not, and English is the language of international communication *** And why not Russian as the international language? Because they allowed the British to sit on their necks. *** Or are you like that aunt Sarah, who came to New York and is indignant that she has been living here for three years "and yet not one bastard did not learn Russian" *** Yes, yes, yes! Since the 90s, Russia has bowed to the West and not all Russians have yet learned the language of the host! sad

                        Today, English is the language of medicine and programming, international communication and, thanks to Broadway and Hollywood, art. Not, of course, you can continue to remove remakes from their series, such as Dr. Richter, etc., but why not try to live in the modern world as normal, understanding people?
                    2. 0
                      20 November 2017 05: 18
                      We decided in Latvia to find out how people swear. It turned out 100% of the country is Russian.
                2. +1
                  19 November 2017 18: 34
                  Quote: IL-18
                  On the one hand, the outrage at the initiative is understandable.

                  yes it is on any side incomprehensible this outrage. It is much more interesting to watch a movie with a native sound, not drowned out by the translation track. All intonations and tonality of the voice laid down by the actor and director are audible and understandable. Well and again, knowledge of a foreign language.
                  1. +3
                    19 November 2017 18: 38
                    Quote: verner1967
                    Well and again, knowledge of a foreign language.

                    We watch Japanese films, English, Italian, French, German, etc. will you really study all languages? !!!
                    1. +2
                      19 November 2017 18: 47
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      will you really study all languages? !!

                      How many Japanese films have you watched in the last five years? I am the only one. Another watched a joint film in English with dubbing in Russian, and the Japanese speak Japanese (without dubbing in English, and even more so in Russian) there are captions and it doesn’t bother anyone. Recently I watched an Italian television series, the last five episodes were with subtitles (we didn’t have time to dub) Honestly, I didn’t even want to watch at first, but from the second episode I understood how dubbing impoverishes the film, I understood some words in the fifth episode (by the way, it really helped correspondence course of English). But the vast majority of films that we watch in English. Films in English are nominated at film festivals, and those shot at the national level are accompanied by subtitles so as not to interfere with the actor’s playing. Although, if for you the film is perceived as "action", then I understand you, of course it is difficult to eat popcorn at the same time, watch the game and read subtitles. It’s easier to live without brains))))
                      1. +2
                        19 November 2017 19: 35
                        Quote: verner1967
                        How many Japanese films have you watched in the last five years? I am the only one.

                        that is, by law, and this would not be able to see
                        Quote: verner1967
                        Although, if for you the film is perceived as "action", then I understand you, of course it is difficult to eat popcorn at the same time, watch the game and read subtitles. It’s easier to live without brains))))

                        you are an ordinary hamish snob, and what a rather stupid bo, like a good movie with subtitles, you really don’t look and you don’t have to make a super duper critic
                      2. +2
                        20 November 2017 12: 43
                        I agree, colleague and support. Itself was in Sweden and Denmark and the Netherlands. Really helps to learn a language in this way ....
                  2. +3
                    19 November 2017 19: 38
                    Quote: verner1967
                    Well and again, knowledge of a foreign language.

                    cognition needs a language environment and not a movie once every three months
                    1. +1
                      19 November 2017 21: 04
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      rather than watching a movie every three months

                      Do you watch movies every three months? what
                      1. +1
                        19 November 2017 22: 49
                        do not fool
                        or do you watch foreign films more often
              2. +3
                19 November 2017 14: 31
                .
                Quote: Popovich
                Quote: Thrall
                young generators of idiotic initiatives

                send the forest to cut, all, not only from the LDPR faction!

                Not enough forest for everyone!
                1. 0
                  19 November 2017 15: 54
                  those who don’t have enough will go to sift the sand (sinai, it’s quite suitable)
            4. +1
              19 November 2017 13: 44
              Quote: Thrall
              And then what to do with the young generators of idiotic initiatives from the LDPR faction in the State Duma?

              To study the works of Tatyana Vasilyevna Akhmetova in Russian folk vocabulary, with the obligatory passing of an exam in the State Duma. And also A. Plutzer-Sarno. A large dictionary of profanity in two volumes, for the most thorough and detailed study of the Russian language
          2. +5
            19 November 2017 14: 26
            Quote: Tatiana
            to take away a deputy mandate from him and not to allow him to go to the legislative branch for years at 10-12


            It is true that only depriving of access to the legislative power for life, without the right to work in social, legal, public institutions of power of the Russian Federation.
        2. +1
          19 November 2017 17: 36
          Quote: Stroporez
          Quote: Thrall
          If I had problems like this deputy, I would be curly-curly

          My belief is that today, the State Duma is not only not a necessary rudiment, but also archived for us!

          beliefs are often extremely subjective and destructive !!! apparently, the example of Khokhlyat neighbors does not teach you anything !!!! negative negative negative wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
      3. +2
        19 November 2017 17: 33
        Quote: Thrall
        Member of the Legislative Assembly of the Leningrad Region Vladimir Petrov

        Petrov Vladimir Stanislavovich (born June 30, 1970, Leningrad, Russia) - politician of the Leningrad region, deputy of the Legislative Assembly of the Leningrad region in the Slantsy constituency since 2011.

        Famous Initiatives 2015
        I put an experiment on two pigs. The deputy fed a pig a minimum monthly wage for a month, and the second according to the norms of the consumer basket of the Leningrad Region trying to prove that the current minimum wage needs to be increased. [4]
        He suggested returning the imperial Romanov family to Russia. [5]
        He proposed to establish sobriety day in Russia. According to the parliamentarian, the Northwest region should become an example in the fight against alcoholism. [6]
        He proposed to introduce a tax on barbecue in the summer. [7]
        He proposed to arm officials and deputies with selfie sticks. [8]
        In 2013, he left all the governing bodies of the LORO runway "UNITED RUSSIA", remaining an ordinary member of the Party.
        In June of 2015, he ceased membership in the party "UNITED RUSSIA".
        wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
        1. +2
          19 November 2017 17: 49
          woodpecker what else to say laughing
          1. +3
            19 November 2017 18: 59
            Quote: faiver
            woodpecker what else to say laughing

            laughing laughing along the way, expelled from the party precisely for this reason !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
    2. +16
      19 November 2017 12: 17
      Quote: osoboye_mneniye
      They want to teach us to look and think in a foreign language.
      Is this a diversion?

      I agree . Who wants to learn a language and so will learn, and this is some kind of nonsense.
      1. +16
        19 November 2017 12: 22
        "One of the secrets why people in some European countries speak at least two foreign languages ​​so perfectly."
        Everyone lies. Europeans (Germans, Italians, Spaniards) never know perfect English.
        Finns, for example, know pretty well. But not because of the movies. It's just that they are taught in schools for free.
        1. +4
          19 November 2017 12: 30
          Quote: osoboye_mneniye
          Everyone lies. Europeans (Germans, Italians, Spaniards) never know perfect English.

          Based on the average temperature in the hospital, you can easily speak English in Poland, Scandinavia, and Holland. In Germany, it’s difficult ....
          In France, in the north they can throw fools: "My yours do not understand." In the south it’s easier.
          If you go to Spain - do not be lazy, learn a dozen common phrases and numerals. Spanish is not difficult. The same is about Italy.
          1. +1
            19 November 2017 17: 56
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            If you go to Spain - do not be lazy, learn a dozen common phrases and numerals. Spanish is not difficult.


            Be sure to know the difference between the words "corrida" and "CORRRRIDA!". Very funny time it turned out))
      2. +2
        19 November 2017 12: 34
        What is he? am There are no more problems in the country ...
    3. +25
      19 November 2017 12: 19
      This is idiocy!
      One health care provider has already tried to ban everything that harms health! And he probably would have forbidden to live if they had not stopped, because they are dying of life ... Here is another initiative ...
      Languages ​​need to learn at school ...! In a technical school, in an institute ... In special courses, after all! But no, we are studying according to the Singapore system ... According to the Great Singapore system ...! And we praise Soviet education ...! So return the Soviet system back! And such lawmakers in Singapore ...
      1. +21
        19 November 2017 12: 21
        Do cancer is not so terrible as do cancer with initiative. Greetings hi
        1. +18
          19 November 2017 12: 23
          Especially when they are in power! hi
          1. +10
            19 November 2017 12: 24
            So he still receives money for this.
            1. +10
              19 November 2017 12: 30
              Quote: Going
              So he still receives money for this.

        2. +7
          19 November 2017 12: 37
          Quote: Going
          Do cancer is not so terrible as do cancer with initiative.

          Paraphrase
          There used to be two troubles in Russia - fools and roads.
          Now the third has appeared, the fools who indicate the roads negative soldier
      2. 0
        19 November 2017 14: 57
        Quote: Logall
        So return the Soviet system back

        Yes, students do not give a shit about Singaporean, Soviet, and any other system, and even this is not enough for teachers, too, by and large ... A poppy man is built that will always find excuses
      3. +1
        19 November 2017 18: 29
        Quote: Logall
        And we praise Soviet education ...!

        you praise it. And in many countries, the Soviet diploma must be backed up with exams.
        Quote: Logall
        Languages ​​you need to learn at school

        so studied at the "best"
        Quote: Logall
        Soviet education
        but what’s interesting, for example, in order to enter the university, the faculty of journalism, schoolchildren went to a tutor, and at VIIII they generally said “forget what you were taught at school in foreign lessons ...”. I myself have been abroad, I see on TV how people in different countries give interviews in English, and people who have the "best in the world" education abroad communicate with locals at the level of "shtier poobi". Thank God, the situation with foreign languages ​​in our country is now changing for the better.
        1. 0
          19 November 2017 18: 41
          Quote: verner1967
          you praise it. And in many countries, the Soviet diploma must be backed up with exams.

          iii ?!
          excuse me, ordinary competition, by the way, the very Germans with the hands of our engineers took when there was a "great" relocation of the "Germans", even those who were middle-aged and drove out there as leading specialists
          1. +1
            19 November 2017 19: 37
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            even those who were middle-aged here and below got out into leading specialists

            this does not mean that our middles and lower specialists are better than their leading professionals. We could have a middle-aged person who was not given growth, because there were no connections, they, by the way, therefore rushed for the cordon, that intelligence and enterprise were valued there, and not relatives on the armchair.
            1. 0
              19 November 2017 20: 47
              Quote: verner1967
              we could be the one to whom growth was not given

              I'm talking about knowledge and skills, real facts
              1. +1
                19 November 2017 21: 05
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                I'm talking about knowledge and skills

                and I'm talking about it
                1. 0
                  19 November 2017 22: 50
                  you get hungry, and I'm talking about what I know
                  1. 0
                    20 November 2017 18: 13
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    you get hungry

                    I got the opposite opinion
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    I'm talking about what I know

                    and that by this you proved, I knew about the career growth of some of our specialists
          2. +1
            19 November 2017 21: 24
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            Quote: verner1967
            you praise it. And in many countries, the Soviet diploma must be backed up with exams.

            iii ?!
            excuse me, ordinary competition, by the way, the very Germans with the hands of our engineers took when there was a "great" relocation of the "Germans", even those who were middle-aged and drove out there as leading specialists

            Isolated cases. As with the doctors.
    4. +7
      19 November 2017 12: 22
      Quote: osoboye_mneniye
      Is this a diversion?
      This is an attempt to lobby the interests of illegal translators with nasal voices bully
      1. +5
        19 November 2017 12: 41
        Andrei, I don’t know about you, but I liked and did not bother.
    5. +3
      19 November 2017 12: 23
      Quote: osoboye_mneniye
      Only subtitles: MP proposed to ban the showing of dubbed films on Russian TV

      This is House No. 6 .. And you don’t have to pay attention to it!
      Vysotsky sang about it .. hehe

      The infection from Ukraine is spreading .. hehe
    6. +3
      19 November 2017 12: 26
      This is not a diversion. He's just trying to cram the owner’s pointers
    7. +9
      19 November 2017 12: 27
      This deputy should be banned from driving foreign cars. There will be an incentive to support the Russian auto industry. And also to prohibit the use of telephones - there will be an incentive to walk and promote sports.
    8. +2
      19 November 2017 12: 36
      One more confirmation that all these deputies for free eat state bread. They invent all kinds of garbage in order to at least do something.
    9. +12
      19 November 2017 12: 36
      Quote: osoboye_mneniye
      Is this a diversion?

      This is just nonsense. request When the cat has nothing to do, he licks under the tail. Yes
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    11. +3
      19 November 2017 14: 42
      Quote: osoboye_mneniye
      They want to teach us to look and think in a foreign language.
      Is this a diversion?

      More stupid statements, if not sharper, I have not yet met. Absolute laziness of the brain, give porridge, and even chewed. Shovel consumer ideal
      1. +1
        20 November 2017 09: 42
        Well, your statements didn’t go crazy either! She smiled especially about the rejection of Soviet diplomas. There, only with confirmations is the gimmick, but especially gifted, who received a diploma in the transition, really, will not confirm it.
        PS And after everything you said above, you will also call yourself Russian or prove that such a nationality does not exist ?! As long as there are rootless Vanka like you, nationalists will always have an excuse justifying the necessity of their existence!
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            1. 0
              20 November 2017 18: 52
              Quote: Shadow of the Dark
              but Russian people should think in their native language.

              and who forbids you to think in Russian?
              Quote: Shadow of the Dark
              And to think on it, you need to hear it and you need to talk!

              do you have nothing else left in your perception of reality along with Hollywood? You finish it, read Russian books, watch Russian films, chat with friends and in general, crawl off the couch and be more in the fresh air, I assure you, it will help laughing
    12. +3
      19 November 2017 14: 48
      Quote: osoboye_mneniye
      They want to teach us to look and think in a foreign language.
      Is this a diversion?

      This is a diversion from a stupid cattle to make thinkers.
      1. +1
        20 November 2017 09: 49
        That is, everyone who speaks Russian and wants to hear Russian has already become
        from stupid cattle
        ?
        Cool, you beat Russian and licked the British!
        1. 0
          20 November 2017 18: 23
          Quote: Shadow of the Dark
          licked the British!

          and the British and Americans now have it, because they don’t need to learn the language of international communication and My doctor just doesn’t want us to be like them. What makes a man such a cattle is not ignorance as such, but a stupid unwillingness to receive this knowledge.
    13. +4
      19 November 2017 15: 16
      Quote: osoboye_mneniye
      Is this a diversion?

      What is the problem? Superstitious fear and rejection, foreign languages ​​cause only people stupid and unable to learn them.
    14. 0
      20 November 2017 17: 10
      These are not saboteurs. These are stupid people. How many people know English so well to watch films with the original track with the same pleasure as in Russian? Even people who are fluent in foreign languages ​​may not perceive books and films as intended by the creators and authors. Because there are subtle shades, nuances. To take them into account, you need to LIVE in the appropriate language environment and CONSTANTLY communicate in this language. And this is only for films in English! It is clear that most of the films we watch come out in the USA or England, but in other countries they make films. What now, you need to know perfectly German, French, Italian, Chinese, etc.?
      1. 0
        20 November 2017 17: 12
        Actually, instead of "stupid people," I wrote another word that begins with the letter D and means mentally retarded people, but the auto-replace worked ...
  2. +3
    19 November 2017 12: 17
    Do not touch the films. Let people just watch and enjoy the work of specialists.
    1. +7
      19 November 2017 12: 47
      Yes, there are normal films, one, two and all. Less people will look at all nonsense. No matter what the film is, an American superhero or a gay super-policeman. There are no films where America Tryndets comes, so there is little loss
      1. +7
        19 November 2017 13: 50
        Quote: faridg7
        Yes, there are normal films, one, two and all. Less people will look at all nonsense. No matter what the film is, an American superhero or a gay super-policeman. There are no films where America Tryndets comes, so there is little loss
        The new Russian cinema is even worse, so it’s better to let the Hollywood people watch. Our contemporary films, funded by the Cinema Foundation, do not cause anything but gag reflexes.
        1. +4
          19 November 2017 14: 15
          As for the new one, I agree, in my opinion there is reason to coat the archives of the Soviet State Film Fund, there are so many unseen on the shelves ... and Hollywood is vomit
          1. +4
            19 November 2017 16: 27
            Quote: faridg7
            and hollywood is vomit
            So I would not speak. In Hollywood, a huge number of directors, producers, screenwriters, actors, etc. work. (including immigrants and Russia). They make a great variety of films. A lot of slag, but a lot of good projects. Yes, and hardly the work of the same Scorsese, or Darabonte, Cameron, Nolan, Spielberg, Mann, Soderberg, etc. can be called vomit.
            1. +1
              19 November 2017 17: 00
              Ours were there only when the Serenade of the sunny valley was filmed, and then deserters tumbled down there, and the level of films fell, and all that you listed was only an improvement in technology. Well, if you like, your problems
              1. +3
                19 November 2017 19: 44
                Quote: faridg7
                Well, if you like-

                not only like Greenwood, and the fact that all of Hollywood is vomiting for you is your problems
          2. +4
            19 November 2017 19: 43
            Quote: faridg7
            and hollywood is vomit

            "Deer hunting", "Platoon", "Apocalypse today" - vomiting? Vomiting
            Quote: faridg7
            archives of the soviet state film fund

            there are films that even the Soviet audience did not appreciate, and therefore they were placed there. I am not at all opposed to Soviet cinema, but in bulk about all of Hollywood - patriotism, no more.
            1. +1
              20 November 2017 13: 04
              There are many films in the archives that were not appreciated by the Soviet audience because they simply weren’t shown to him, but who decided to show or not, the question is
              1. 0
                20 November 2017 18: 25
                Quote: faridg7
                they simply weren’t shown to him, but whoever decided to show it or not, the question is still

                This is a slap on the USSR and the Communist Party !!! am In a fair Soviet society this could not be !!! am or was it? lol
                1. +1
                  20 November 2017 18: 31
                  Quote: verner1967
                  This is a slap on the USSR and the Communist Party !!! am In a fair Soviet society this could not be !!!

                  In society, it could not, but there were traitors
                  1. 0
                    20 November 2017 18: 56
                    Quote: faridg7
                    In society, it could not, but there were traitors

                    Straight to the Central Committee? belay you look and traitors in the 70s ... but I thought they were shot in the 37th laughing
                    1. +1
                      20 November 2017 19: 03
                      But were Gorbachev and Yeltsin not in the Central Committee? And I strongly doubt that only traitors shot at 37, and traitors-wreckers shot there
  3. +14
    19 November 2017 12: 18
    Mr. (deputy doesn’t dare to name the language) deputy! Is it in the country that all the problems have already been solved? Who wants to learn, he will learn without subtitles. And for the rest .. By the way, is it time to limit the display of the foreigner on the screen?
  4. +14
    19 November 2017 12: 19
    Vladimir Petrov, a deputy of the Leningrad Region Legislative Assembly, turned to the Ministry of Education and Science with a proposal to prohibit dubbed foreign films from showing on Russian television


    Nothing to do and boring to live?
  5. +6
    19 November 2017 12: 22
    People engaged in reading subtitles simply will not see the film for at least half a movie, I think so ... negative
    1. +7
      19 November 2017 14: 20
      I watched "McKenna's Gold" with gorgeous dubbing and Obodzinsky sang! Once I saw with a voiceover-sky and earth, the whole essence of the film was lost.
      And if you look with subtitles - you can not watch at all, not the plot, you will not see the point.
      At all film festivals, our films came with subtitles, so they were not perceived and did not take first places.
  6. +7
    19 November 2017 12: 25
    This is one of the last problems in the country, have all the others been resolved? ?? recourse
  7. +2
    19 November 2017 12: 25
    Quote: Going
    Vladimir Petrov, a deputy of the Leningrad Region Legislative Assembly, turned to the Ministry of Education and Science with a proposal to prohibit dubbed foreign films from showing on Russian television


    Nothing to do and boring to live?

    Correctly noticed
  8. +4
    19 November 2017 12: 25
    Vladimir Petrov, a deputy of the Leningrad Region Legislative Assembly, turned to the Ministry of Education and Science with a proposal to prohibit dubbed foreign films from showing on Russian television, reports RT.
    Tired of legislative activity uncle? From fatigue, he is trying to decide what is better for us (the people).
  9. +7
    19 November 2017 12: 29
    Eat your copper, there’s nothing more to worry about? Only one sore point remained - subtitles ...
    1. +8
      19 November 2017 12: 54
      Apparently they do not scratch where it itches. lol
      1. +7
        19 November 2017 13: 06
        Quote: Going
        Apparently they do not scratch where it itches. lol

        the teeth itch, and tongue and clang ... wink
        1. +7
          19 November 2017 13: 11
          With age, this problem goes away.
          1. +5
            19 November 2017 13: 34
            Come on, the language is boneless, the expiration date is unlimited ... Emelya ...
            1. +7
              19 November 2017 16: 50
              The tongue is yes, but the teeth are already "unionized", they do not itch.
  10. +7
    19 November 2017 12: 30
    That is, instead of watching a movie, I’ll read it all the way, and when to watch a picture? We have people with, at first glance, clever ideas, which at second glance turn out to be idiocy. The main thing is that these people find themselves as far away from power as possible.
  11. +4
    19 November 2017 12: 32
    The deputy walks finely. I would introduce frame 25 for learning Chinese on Saturdays, Jewish on Sundays, English on Mondays, German on Wednesdays.
  12. +6
    19 November 2017 12: 39
    Uncle didn’t come up with this “initiative.” It is astounding how many blockheads are elected as deputies.
    They have nothing more to do?
  13. +6
    19 November 2017 12: 42
    Quote: osoboye_mneniye
    Everyone lies. Europeans (Germans, Italians, Spaniards) never know perfect English.

    -----------------------------------
    For Germans, English is generally an alien language. Although, it would seem, they should learn it willingly. English is popular in Eastern Europe, but only in order to successfully emigrate to good earnings. For example, I use English from school and college. I correspond in English and they understand me, however, now slang newspeak is actively going on and I have to ask the interlocutor for the meaning of the words. I think that language is easier to learn by entering into communication with a native speaker. I, for example. corresponded with American animal photographers on Facebook. They are very interesting and courageous people, because despite powerful telephoto lenses, you have to get quite close to animals, about 300 meters away. But a bear can easily overcome this distance, not to mention a moose or a large deer. If anyone is interested, I advise you to correspond with the photographer Bill Lea, a very cool guy, always answers in correspondence. He will tell you about the features of bears.

    I wrote to him that the bear is a very popular animal, but many people are full of hatred for these cute creatures. He answered me literally as follows, see the screenshot.
    1. +1
      19 November 2017 13: 13
      do not offend the bears, and they will not touch anyone!
  14. +7
    19 November 2017 12: 52
    We have a third of the population of the student still in the Soviet school "lay", but not put. How to teach now I judge by my daughter.
    1. +3
      19 November 2017 13: 12
      And 99% of prosecutors are excited.
      1. +2
        19 November 2017 13: 38
        And our sailors exclusively go. And for pilots, departures are extremely extreme. Normal fopping and showing off.
  15. +8
    19 November 2017 12: 54
    It looks like the deputies have nothing to do, all problems have already been solved
  16. +4
    19 November 2017 12: 57
    Fools in Russia 100 years in advance
  17. +7
    19 November 2017 12: 57
    Curious. Does anyone just like jokes collect pearls of deputies? A bestseller would be a book!
    Recently in the Duma there was a proposal to ban the use of gas in high-rise buildings. I do not rule out the possibility of a bill banning kitchen knives.
    Yeah. It is a pity that there is no law on the possibility of expelling deputies with shame. My fantasies, however.
  18. +3
    19 November 2017 13: 01
    Only subtitles: MP proposed to ban the showing of dubbed films on Russian TV
    It seems that in Petrov’s head, not thoughts, but subtitles. The same colorless.
    1. +1
      19 November 2017 13: 28
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Only subtitles: MP proposed to ban the showing of dubbed films on Russian TV
      It seems that in Petrov’s head, not thoughts, but subtitles. The same colorless.

      He, apparently, was chipped into his head. Now he just reads the subtitles shown to him. The interview is called ...
    2. 0
      19 November 2017 13: 31
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      It seems that in Petrov’s head, not thoughts, but subtitles

      sign language translation
  19. HAM
    +5
    19 November 2017 13: 01
    As a radio amateur, I constantly communicate with foreigners and would not say that they speak English very well. The Israelis, yes, better, the Scandinavians, are also normal, but the Italians, the Spaniards, are weak, but we understand each other!
    Somehow the Balts tried to talk to us about the English movie, it turned out!
    I think: who needs a foreign language, they will learn it without a shout from the deputies and in the volume necessary for each!
    V.V.P. and learned English in order to send it inadequate itself, without witnesses ..
  20. 0
    19 November 2017 13: 09
    not figs - if they want their shit to look, let them duplicate
  21. +3
    19 November 2017 13: 11
    The next high .. p deputy.
    Well, he has no desire to get out of the idiotic initiative.

    I recalled a casual conversation with a Russian young lady in China.
    I ask how you mastered the language?

    She told me.
    She was invited to work in a Russian restaurant.
    All the waitresses are Chinese women, university students. Learn the Russian language.
    Russian visitors.
    I study, I say, I study, but still.
    Chinese New Year is coming.
    They have it at different times, in different ways.
    All Chinese go home.
    Family holiday.
    To go to work in a month.
    I stay in the apartment alone.
    What to do?
    The TV broadcasts 86 channels and all in Chinese.
    Though cry.
    And from morning till night, I watched feature films about the history of China and the Chinese dynasties.
    A month later, I understood the language.
    Not perfect, but clearly grasped the meaning.
    The girls arrived and were stunned.
    They say what a smart nation these Russians are.
    We have been teaching for six years and how we will not learn.
    And then I learned in a month.
    True, I did not learn to read, write.
    But it rumbles like the Chinese.

    Is that what we need?
    Under the castle and for a month.
    Began to understand - let go. I didn’t start, for another month.
    And stop feeding.
    Learn quickly. And also lose weight.
    1. 0
      19 November 2017 14: 32
      And those who can’t learn the nightingale or the bonfire also have a guillotine ... it’s all the same untouched ... there was such a thing in gay history.
  22. +2
    19 November 2017 13: 14
    Member of the Legislative Assembly of the Leningrad Region Vladimir Petrov
    As I understand the local Euro-integrator. It is better to prohibit treatment in Russian and oblige to apply in foreign. Then there will be more incentives for learning a foreign language.
    It can be seen the Leningrad Maydanuty.
  23. +4
    19 November 2017 13: 14
    This is a complete Arctic fox. Another idea decided to declare its existence. Debauchery among deputies is booming. Yes, it is obvious. If instead of those who at least somehow understand jurisdictions, artists, boxers, and simply beauties are recruited into the EP faction, what laws can they issue.
  24. +3
    19 November 2017 13: 15
    Another old genius of insanity! he didn’t think about the fact that, not to mention the sense of health, if what for the old people, what subtitles are many, and they suffer from their eyesight for such proposals, it would be worth fining! what would they use before passing through the mouth through the brain!
  25. +2
    19 November 2017 13: 21
    I look, the St. Petersburg parliament is just a storehouse of innovation, and it doesn’t matter whether it is smart or not ....
  26. +1
    19 November 2017 13: 24
    And after all, what is striking is one principle: “prohibit and not let go!” The idea can be realized, for example, on the Culture channel, within the framework of a rubric, demonstrating film classics in this way ... Yes, there are different options ... But like that, in an orderly way - an unambiguous wrecking!
  27. +3
    19 November 2017 13: 25
    For these deputies it is necessary to make the average salary of ordinary people, so that they are finally engaged in direct duties. When receiving divine salaries, it is difficult to take care of mere mortals.
    Hey! Wee-pee-pee (this is what I’ve filmed myself, because it’s hard to talk about alien deputies in another way), we have other problems! Do it finally domestic finance, economics, defense. Enemies are pulling divisions to our borders, and you pee-pee about subtitles. am
    1. +2
      19 November 2017 16: 20
      "average salary" is an exact analogue of the average temperature in a hospital! In our region, this salary is about 36 tons. Paradox - the majority (overwhelming) of my friends, acquaintances in my salary, DO NOT REACH this figure. And there is a burning desire for these deputies to live on the real average salary of their regions !!! P.S. I recall from the social. networks: "and let not sick children collect the operation for the whole world, but for the deputies for salaries!"
  28. +4
    19 November 2017 13: 28
    MP proposed to prohibit the showing of dubbed films on Russian TV
    I propose to ban deputies
    1. +1
      19 November 2017 16: 21
      I regret that I can only like it once, and, alas, our opinion will not play a role ...
  29. ZVS
    +2
    19 November 2017 13: 34
    Frank idiocy from the State Duma.
  30. +1
    19 November 2017 13: 40
    They're picking idiots ...
  31. +5
    19 November 2017 13: 59
    Well, what can I say, except ...
  32. +2
    19 November 2017 14: 04
    The golden man, deputy Vladimir Petrov, is always thinking about Russia ...
  33. +1
    19 November 2017 14: 07
    Another senile, having traveled to some Sweden or some other garbage dump, everyone is trying to talk, but what he saw there he was dragging to his own country. And what kind of itching does the “servant of the people” do to this people? Or does he want to show that he has been to "civilized" countries? In general, the truth is confirmed - "Give du.rack you will not know how to steer and where to hide."
  34. +1
    19 November 2017 14: 22
    Against the background of the absence of problems in the country, this problem is indeed very topical ((
  35. +2
    19 November 2017 14: 22
    I propose that the deputy proposing an idiotic law deprive part of his salary. Let's say for every idiotic offer 20% minus salaries.
  36. +3
    19 November 2017 14: 22
    Quote: HAM
    V.V.P. and learned English in order to send it inadequate itself, without witnesses ..

    -----------------------------------
    Hmm, I already have 5 comments. otherwise I would post controversial tweets with profanity. Donald Trump from one of the tweeters from Ukraine called in an unambiguous Russian word, to which Donald Trump addressed the community - what does this word mean, does it express a degree of admiration and appreciation? I wrote why no one explained to him that this word means an organ below the waist? And duplicated the tweet in English. laughing laughing
  37. +2
    19 November 2017 14: 25
    Quote: Siberian barber
    Against the background of the absence of problems in the country, this problem is indeed very topical ((

    Quote: Siberian barber
    Against the background of the absence of problems in the country, this problem is indeed very topical ((

    In general, such "initiatives" sound like mockery of the people. "Improvers", damn it
  38. 0
    19 November 2017 14: 28
    Quote: Popovich
    do not offend the bears, and they will not touch anyone!

    -------------------------------------------------
    Bears are very cute animals. In the USA there are volunteer organizations helping bears, especially those who suffered from barbaric hunting. These are cubs, mothers who have lost their mothers and crippled animals and traps. Now the bears are actively eating and hibernating. You can’t touch them. Bill wrote to me. that he somehow had to spend the night in a shift trailer left by lumberjacks. Bears smelled food and shook this car all night for access. laughing laughing
  39. +3
    19 November 2017 14: 31
    So in Japan, the foreign comes with the original sound, and subtitles below. What is wrong that a person will know languages? No, of course we all remember the proverb- "English I will learn only for the fact that it is necessary to interrogate prisoners." But the more educated the people, the better.
    1. +2
      19 November 2017 15: 22
      Quote: Vitas
      So in Japan, the foreign comes with the original sound, and subtitles below. What is wrong that a person will know languages? No, of course we all remember the proverb- "English I will learn only for the fact that it is necessary to interrogate prisoners." But the more educated the people, the better.

      I reviewed a bunch of films with subtitles but I never learned English, although there was a desire. So this whole initiative is a dummy.
      PS And the deputy should be given advice: if you have nothing to do, lick the eggs, but put them out of the State Duma.
    2. +1
      19 November 2017 16: 34
      Quote: Vitas
      So in Japan, the foreign comes with the original sound, and subtitles below. What is wrong that a person will know languages? No, of course we all remember the proverb- "English I will learn only for the fact that it is necessary to interrogate prisoners." But the more educated the people, the better.

      I disagree with you categorically. Subtitles and deputies discussing subtitles, let them go the forest in the direction that improves demography in the country. But I put a plus sign for you. If I could, I would put you a hundred pluses - for a gorgeous proverb. How had I never heard her before ?!
      "I will only learn English for interrogating prisoners." good
  40. +3
    19 November 2017 14: 40
    Damn, it’s necessary to disperse such ... Well, he really doesn’t do hell?
    1. 0
      19 November 2017 18: 30
      Quote: Evrodav
      Damn, it’s necessary to disperse such ... Well, he really doesn’t do hell?

      )))
      The more languages ​​a person knows, the more developed he is. Yakshi? ))))
      1. 0
        19 November 2017 18: 41
        Quote: Krasnodar
        The more languages ​​a person knows, the more developed he is. Yakshi? ))))

        what is the connection with the idiocy of the deputy?
        1. 0
          19 November 2017 19: 18
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          Quote: Krasnodar
          The more languages ​​a person knows, the more developed he is. Yakshi? ))))

          what is the connection with the idiocy of the deputy?

          Why something? Chel offers the right thing.
          1. 0
            19 November 2017 19: 37
            what is right? !!!!!!
            but let's not stop and prohibit translations of books and magazines

            by the way sometimes it’s not bad to think, knowledge of languages ​​to the “idea” of a deputy is by no means
  41. +1
    19 November 2017 15: 19
    As in that fairy tale, the country needs heroes, and ... And who votes for such .... Although no, they do not vote for them, but do not go to vote for normal ....
  42. +1
    19 November 2017 15: 20
    Maybe they will propose to ban the Russian language in Russia, these supposedly Petrovs ....?! I, as a hunter, are forced to undergo examination by a psychiatrist and drug test, when similar requirements will apply to deputies ?! This is clearly not eating those mushrooms ...
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  44. +1
    19 November 2017 16: 02
    Return to 90, with a makeshift translation and a stuffy nose - who remembers wassat
    1. +1
      19 November 2017 16: 31
      Volodarsky is our everything. wassat
  45. +1
    19 November 2017 16: 09
    I propose banning deputies from using travel privileges, receiving cash allowances in the amount of a living wage, using departmental and paid medical services, traveling abroad with them and their relatives, using the services of foreign banks and using food in the dining room of the State Duma.

    Then they will have an incentive to improve the standard of living of the country's population.
  46. +1
    19 November 2017 16: 30
    Nonsense. High-quality dubbing for films is needed, and it is very good that the level of translation has increased many times over in comparison with the 90s.
    As for the English language, it is necessary to change the methodology of its teaching in schools. It’s really funny that children, teaching him 7-10 years old at school, cannot connect two words at the exit. And all because the teachers who teach it, for the most part, do not own spoken language skills.
  47. 0
    19 November 2017 16: 31
    "This is an offer of enemies of the Russian language, just an enemy action." That's right to the point. These are our deputies today ...
  48. RL
    0
    19 November 2017 16: 46
    And why is this "thought" not to your liking? Well, you chose them, so blame yourself!
  49. 0
    19 November 2017 17: 32
    They learn the Russian way, we won’t look at all, especially dubbed advertisements — you give advertisements with Russian-speaking actors !!!!!
  50. 0
    19 November 2017 17: 55
    Let the brain teach yourself to think ...
    1. 0
      19 November 2017 18: 42
      first you need it to be
  51. +1
    19 November 2017 18: 29
    He's 100% right.
    In Israel, where dubbing exists only for children under 6 years old, even taxi drivers and waiters speak English.
    1. 0
      19 November 2017 18: 43
      Quote: Krasnodar
      Even taxi drivers and waiters speak English.

      and Spanish, Italian, Japanese, French, and all of them together
    2. +3
      19 November 2017 20: 02
      I wonder what percentage of commentators speak at least one foreign language, even at the spoken level? For example, I believe that an educated person should know at least one. This greatly broadens your horizons and makes life easier. And it’s much easier to convey your idea to your opponent, if anything. You know, it’s very noticeable how the attitude towards you changes if you can express yourself tolerably. Remember your feelings if it suddenly turns out that some European journalist or politician begins to speak pure Russian. You really think, what a good guy?!
      1. 0
        19 November 2017 20: 51
        Quote: Cook
        For example, I think that an educated person

        to begin with, an educated person will not boast of his “education”
        Quote: Cook
        You know, it’s very noticeable how the attitude towards you changes if you can express yourself tolerably

        I mean, with a Russian in English or with an Italian in German, language is a means of communication, not show-off
        Quote: Cook
        Remember your feelings if it suddenly turns out that some European journalist or politician begins to speak pure Russian. You really think, what a good guy?!

        only if he doesn’t talk about a blizzard in my native language like Bom does
        1. +1
          19 November 2017 21: 39
          Did I somewhere boast of my “education”? I'm talking about something completely different. Just look from the outside how helpless our person looks, among announcements and signs in a non-native language, in the restaurant and at the reception. If it so happens that for the most part, our older generation does not know languages, then this is simply vital for young people now. Bom then, he learned our language in order to convey his position to us. Can we have ours?
          1. +1
            19 November 2017 22: 52
            Quote: Cook
            how helpless our person looks, among advertisements and signs in a non-native language, in the restaurant and at the reception

            he learned English and went to Rome and so he began to navigate smartly among the signs
            1. +1
              20 November 2017 12: 43
              You're being ironic in vain. A year ago I started learning Italian. And my first impression of him is simply incredible: Italian is a strange mixture of English and Russian. Grammar is a separate matter, I never became friends with it, but absolutely everyone can reach the level of conversation “mine is yours” in a month of leisurely independent study.
              1. 0
                20 November 2017 13: 51
                Quote: forty-eighth
                You're being ironic in vain. A year ago I started learning Italian.

                learned Italian and went to Tokyo, further in the upper text
  52. +1
    19 November 2017 19: 57
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    that is, by law, and this would not be able to see
    Why? Did the deputies propose to ban foreign films?
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    you are an ordinary rude snob
    ok, that offended you, I actually wrote it in an abstract way, but it turns out I hit the nail on the head
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    what does it have to do with quite stupid bo you really won’t watch a good movie with subtitles
    A stupid person won’t watch this, but I watched it and I liked it, because I understood the letters, the language, and the picture, apparently you can’t do this since you’re so angry.
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    and there’s no need to pretend to be a super duper specialist-critic here
    so you're trying to prove something here
    1. +1
      19 November 2017 20: 52
      Quote: verner1967
      Why? Did the deputies propose to ban foreign films?

      because I personally find subtitles annoying
      Quote: verner1967
      ok, that offended you, I actually wrote it in an abstract way, but it turns out I hit the nail on the head

      no, it didn’t hurt, I expressed my opinion about your rudeness
      Quote: verner1967
      A stupid person won't watch it, but I watched it and liked it

      this is exactly what he spoke about
      Quote: verner1967
      so you're trying to prove something here

      mmm yes you still don’t know the meaning of words
      1. +1
        19 November 2017 21: 07
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        because I personally find subtitles annoying

        so these are your personal problems, they don’t bother me
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        expressed his opinion about your rudeness
        and what is it?
        1. +1
          19 November 2017 22: 53
          Quote: verner1967
          so these are your personal problems, they don’t bother me

          Well, don’t interfere and believe me, many people would prefer to watch a film with a double and not with subtitles
          1. 0
            20 November 2017 18: 27
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            well, don't interfere

            yes, maybe let those who don’t interfere
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            would prefer to watch a film with a dub rather than with subtitles
  53. +1
    19 November 2017 20: 08
    Lavrov clearly said about such people: Fucking morons!
    Why do pensioners who receive pennies in their old age need to study languages????
    1. +1
      19 November 2017 21: 09
      Quote: zloybond
      Why do pensioners who receive pennies in their old age need to study languages?

      let them watch Gaidai and Ryazanov in their old age
      1. +3
        19 November 2017 22: 54
        Or maybe without your “smart” advice they will figure out what to watch?!
        boor in its purest form
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    2. +1
      20 November 2017 12: 28
      They say it is beneficial for brain health, especially in old age when dementia begins to attack. But of course the dubbing ban has nothing to do with this.
    3. +1
      20 November 2017 12: 46
      This is a mental exercise. Trains memory, helps build logical chains, develops attentiveness. Well, it satisfies curiosity and the thirst for knowledge. And no Sudoku or crossword puzzles are needed.
  54. +2
    19 November 2017 20: 44
    Of course you can make fun of the author. This alone will not improve the knowledge of foreign languages ​​by our population. By the way, we are not losing 1 or 2% of GDP on this. Offer your options. Stop being proud of the past and the mythical future. Let's be proud of the present.
  55. +4
    19 November 2017 21: 09
    At the same time, reading subtitles will improve the spelling literacy of the Russian population. Good bill.
    1. +6
      19 November 2017 21: 26
      Quote: Krasnodar
      At the same time, reading subtitles will improve the spelling literacy of the Russian population.

      Either you read the subtitles or watch the movie. And if I’m not a doctor, not a programmer, and I’m not going anywhere from Russia, then why do I need your English-Indian language?
      1. +1
        19 November 2017 21: 38
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: Krasnodar
        At the same time, reading subtitles will improve the spelling literacy of the Russian population.

        Either you read the subtitles or watch the movie. And if I’m not a doctor, not a programmer, and I’m not going anywhere from Russia, then why do I need your English-Indian language?

        What about math? What about geography?
        1. +4
          19 November 2017 21: 46
          Quote: Krasnodar
          What about math? What about geography?

          I need mathematics and geography, but I don’t need French.
  56. +1
    19 November 2017 21: 53
    I fully support the opinion of actor Vsevolod Kuznetsov! Let Petrov study languages ​​himself if he is so concerned.
  57. +1
    20 November 2017 00: 50
    Programs, films and TV series must be broadcast only with original sound, but with subtitles in Russian.

    change to this Programs, films and TV series that insult Russia, its culture, traditions and people should be broadcast only with original sound, but with subtitles in Russian. and can be accepted.
  58. 0
    20 November 2017 04: 26
    I tried to watch Hollywood movies without translation - 75% of American actors NON-ENGLISH SPEAKING, it is impossible to understand them without having conversational practice in the ghetto. The worst accent kills all desire to master the enemy language. With European ones, if they are not Besson’s films, it’s easier. It’s quite possible to watch “Sherlock” without translation, but there are tons of figures of speech and they don’t teach this at school.
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  60. +1
    20 November 2017 12: 30
    Yes that's what. There have long been channels on TV where films are shown in English. True, you can switch to Russian if the TV allows it.
    But then in the morning the news came out about “our” schoolchildren who spoke in the Bundestag as an “example”. Those. It’s not German schoolchildren who come to our Duma and reconcile, but ours who go to the Germans. You know, they want to make peace with the “offended” Germans. So, one of our inquisitive boys, speaking from the rostrum of the Bundestag (probably this took place in the Reistag, apparently), thoroughly examined the “combat path” of one German soldier who ended up at Stalingrad in the “so-called cauldron” (quote) and served in the air defense defense of the army of Paulus or Manstein (not specified), which was what our young “historian” told the assembled deputies of the German parliament. The deputies, one must think, were touched by what was happening, but how could it be otherwise. And at the end of his speech, the boy said in pure Russian that 240 thousand German soldiers were captured at Stalingrad (“poor things,” is this how it should be assessed, do you feel sorry for them?), and only 6 thousand returned to Germany. Well, what a problem...
    The time is not far off when, as a sign of reconciliation... However, the children are not to blame for anything. I would like to see and listen to their teachers in the same State Duma or in the so-called Ministry of Education.
    I’m not joking, search the Internet about it: here’s a link to YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ece7Hjmi5dU
    This is how a “mixed immortal regiment turns out”: a German gunner who defended German troops in the “so-called Stalingrad” from the action of Russian aviation. True, history has long since begun to remain silent, but what was this “German soldier” and the rest of his 239,999 thousand “comrades in arms” doing - on the banks of the Russian Volga River with an anti-aircraft machine gun?
    How is this possible, eh, gentlemen?
  61. +1
    20 November 2017 12: 39
    Has the deputy tried to work? To receive a salary (not to earn, but to receive) that many (Russians) residents of Russia have never dreamed of, and at the same time carry such crap.
  62. +1
    20 November 2017 13: 07
    The initiative itself is often purely state-driven. Aimed purely at window dressing, saying “we work here, and not just get a few hundred thousand rubles with a bunch of benefits” and creating media noise. It is not initially aimed at results, much less a creative result. It was originally created so that it would not be accepted, taking into account that it would not be accepted.

    As for the topic and objective criticism:

    To begin with, it is worth noting that, to put it mildly, not everyone wants to learn foreign languages. And in this matter, “you can’t force yourself to be nice” and until a person wants, he won’t even be able to start studying, and desire in itself does not mean a result. Also, many people have a problem that they cannot watch a movie and read subtitles at the same time, they need to look in 2 different places. I can do it, no problem at all, but not everyone is like me.
    Not everyone has high-quality LCD TVs; grandparents still have pot-bellied ones with, to put it mildly, not the best resolution, which, given their poor eyesight, will make it impossible to read subtitles. As a result, it is quite logical that those who do not want to look for audio translations that will not go anywhere, you know, the voice actors need something to eat, and the audience needs to watch. Supply and demand.

    In itself, watching films with the original track and Russian subtitles is weakly related to learning a foreign language. Without targeted study, without targeted study according to the appropriate program, this over a relatively long period of time simply leads to the fact that the viewer may (!!!) be able to begin to understand some short phrases and individual words. It’s difficult to begin to understand, “slowly” and not always. During the same period, it is often possible to master English at a level sufficient for simple correspondence on the Internet. Or even higher. I know people who have been watching anime in Japanese with subtitles for 10 years, but they can’t say anything in Japanese. What could they do if they studied Japanese for 10 years? At the same time, in Japan itself many foreign films are broadcast with English tracks and subtitles, but in Tokyo not every second person speaks English at the level of a simple conversation. I speak from the words of those who were there.

    Of course, as an additional part of learning, films with subtitles really help. But only as a part. So there is no secret in this “why the residents of some European countries speak at least two foreign languages ​​so well.” The whole “secret” lies in the fact that at least they start teaching English literally from kindergarten, and then continue at school and at a level we have never dreamed of. Our level is such that often a student who has completed 11 grades without practice “on the side” speaks English at a zero level. Having solid 4 and 5 marks for the subject, they are not only unable to correctly and quickly say the required simple phrase, but are unable to do it even in a way that would be simply understandable to a native speaker. And as a result, they don’t even try. This is why tutoring is so popular, where in one good lesson a child can advance much more than in a month of studying at school. Or even more. Do you want your child to speak English? Then you shouldn’t expect help from the state (I think the reasons are clear): Private schools (very expensive and not available everywhere), private kindergartens teaching English (the same thing), tutors, language schools. And the desire to learn from the child. Do you want to know very well? Well then, only language schools in the country of native speakers. It is very, very expensive and very effective. Capitalism, sir.

    As for subtitles, I think this should be a right of choice. Some people (like me) are categorically dissatisfied with the quality of the dubbing, when often even seemingly not the last voice actors assigned to a specific actor cannot even come close to the original. And someone simply doesn’t want to read subtitles. But this choice is not feasible by the standards of regular television and is available only on the Internet, often only in pirated releases.
  63. 0
    20 November 2017 18: 11
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    do not fool
    why should I include you, just sit there... lol
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    or do you watch foreign films more often

    not more often, but much more often, almost every evening, or was your video player taken away?