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How can you, comrades from the Ministry of Defense? We believe you ...

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Well, you can congratulate the press service of the Ministry of Defense: a gift to our opponents was made just great.


All would be nothing, mistakes and mistakes happen to everyone, the whole question is how serious the blunder is.

Charging another state for complicity with ISIS * is serious. So, the evidence must be at the appropriate level.

But screenshots from the AC-130 Gunship Simulator: Special Ops Squadron computer game as evidence that the United States refused to attack IG fighters on the Syrian-Iraqi border and the “photos” of the terrorist column is overkill.

How can you, comrades from the Ministry of Defense? We believe you ...




“A screenshot from a game for smartphones, issued for evidence of US cooperation with ISIS *, was mistakenly attached to a statement by the Russian Defense Ministry as a civilian employee. With respect to him being checked, reports RIA "News"With reference to the military department.

The Ministry of Defense also announced the publication of authentic photographs of a column of ISIL militants heading for the Syrian-Iraqi border. ”


Well, who now believe in it?

It is clear that everything will be cleaned up and deleted, but what got into the Network, then got into it. As well as thousands of Russians who saw the "evidence" in the news issue of "Russia 24". To them, too, fell.



It happens to everyone? Especially when it comes to a kind of "civilian employee of one of the departments." It would be interesting to know the details about this employee. Or an employee. If this is someone similar to the wonder-girls from the ARMY-2017 forum, it is not surprising from the word “absolutely”. The level of professionalism is inversely proportional to the ability to draw looks and behave arrogantly with others.

The question is that the next time, in response to such a statement, the opposite side will just laugh. And first she will go in search of old photos, photos of others, screenshots from all similar computer games.

Fair by the way.

And the time with the militants will flow away. Time in one direction, the militants in the other.

Speaking about the professional approach at such a high level as international relations, I would like to observe exactly what is usually hidden behind this concept. True, only truth, and nothing but the truth.

Considering the current situation in Russia, the ministries and departments simply cannot afford the luxury of lies. It is enough that the main part of the world does not believe in the integrity of the Crimean referendum, the absence of Russian troops in the Donbas, so now Syria must also be added?

To the end, right? So that no one in the world would ever have the question "is it possible to believe Russians"?

Of course, we do not exclude the possibility of provocation by the potential. And that all this fake was made absolutely intentionally. For money. For good money. Because this is, we repeat, international relations.

So, again, questions about a sufficient level of professionalism, but in a different area. In the field of checks for compliance with the person to work in a place such as the press service of the Ministry of Defense. Where did the reviewers look at, accepting such an employee? In the direction of what?

Although the first question can also be disturbed by the same verifiers. Incompetence of the employee is beyond doubt. Means, did not notice.

Or they did, but could not do anything. The name of the employee is not allowed. Could this happen? Yes, easily.

In any case, whatever the outcome, we can only express our deep disappointment at the incident and wish the press service of the Ministry of Defense to remove such effective civilian personnel away from displaying materials from Syria.

And, of course, I would like to know further what the results of the audit will be and what punishment this employee will incur. Although, in an amicable way, it is necessary to punish the entire line, from the one who gave the task to the one who had to check. But this is not the case of our monastery.

But in the future it would be desirable that such incidents no longer happen.

It’s still about the international image of the country ... And about the trust of its citizens.

* ISIS, IG is an organization banned in the Russian Federation.
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  1. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 November 2017 06: 53 New
    28
    Three years of painstaking and excellent work of the information center of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in one minute, a goat down the drain and to the delight of enemies. They do not do control there at all, are they all in the hands of young IT specialists and, moreover, civilians?
    1. Shurale
      Shurale 15 November 2017 07: 03 New
      20
      Dismiss for negligence (most likely stupidly did not want to strain, took the picture that I found in Yandex) dismiss with a wolf ticket for unsuitability ...
      1. Esoteric
        Esoteric 15 November 2017 07: 10 New
        25
        Quote: Shurale
        ... most likely stupidly did not want to ...

        Most likely, someone once again stupidly did not want to go into conflict with the United States, so as not to have problems with personal "assets". Greater meanness cannot be expected and excuses are not necessary here. Everything is visible so. As with Ulyukaev ... I thought of wine, but it turned out - $ 2. The most impoverished person in Russia "had a hangover." I would believe it, if it were not for the name "Sechin" ...
        Traitors in power, yes! Who sold all the interests of the country for the sake of their well-being ...
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 15 November 2017 10: 36 New
          11
          I completely agree with the authors of the article on the VO site - with Roman Skomorokhov and Alexander Staverov! And in all aspects of this case!
          And, of course, I would like to know in addition what the results of the audit will be and what punishment this employee will suffer. Although, in a good way, the whole line must be punished, from the one who gave the assignment to the one who was supposed to check.
          Add - and the one who took them all to work! Personnel department personnel must also be held accountable. And in general, "shake the dust" from all involved in the "bottom" to the bottom!
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 15 November 2017 11: 02 New
            10
            Quote: Tatiana
            Add - and the one who took them all to work! Personnel department personnel must also be held accountable. And in general, "shake the dust" from all involved in the "bottom" to the bottom!

            I consider one of the most negative moments of our mentality unhealthy passion of finding the guiltyleading, as a rule, to the disproportion of punishment.
            Let me remind you that at one time the MO did not want to acknowledge the words at all about the columns of fuel trucks exporting Syrian oil through Turkish territory.
            Y. Kedmi correctly told Vladimir Solovyov the other day that he should have imagined 2 photo only: “before” - as it was, and “after” - what remained of the ISIS convoy destroyed by the Russian air forces.
            1. twviewer
              twviewer 15 November 2017 18: 22 New
              +1
              I don’t understand, journalists write we believe you? journalism is a game such a believe-believe, or a kind of mental illness ?? guys if you have nowhere to put faith send money as I can return ... I swear by my mother
              It’s funny to write about the military, there are no losses.
          2. olimpiada15
            olimpiada15 15 November 2017 19: 15 New
            +2
            It is not a matter of staff of the personnel departments, they are engaged in pure clearance, either direct managers of new employees accept the work, or managers signing the personnel order give instructions to execute the employee. Surnames in the studio, because for those who do not understand what MO is in this department, there is nothing and shoulder straps they do not suit.
      2. Kent0001
        Kent0001 15 November 2017 08: 42 New
        21
        This is not negligence, this is sabotage, and the conclusions should be appropriate, up to the excitement of UD.
        1. Lavrenti Pavlovich
          Lavrenti Pavlovich 15 November 2017 12: 05 New
          +7
          Quote: Kent0001
          This is not negligence, this is sabotage, and the conclusions should be appropriate, up to the excitement of UD.

          This is a real diversion, only ours had to destroy these IG columns really, and then show the video. Stripes should be moved not with words, but with actions - they will talk and move, while trying to prevent our SU 24 from destroying terrorists, the SU-30 and SU-35 should immediately enter into business. All interference must be physically removed, and not engage in verbiage.
          1. a.sirin
            a.sirin 15 November 2017 20: 10 New
            +3
            In response, "Reptors" will come immediately - is this really necessary?
      3. Stas 2rep
        Stas 2rep 15 November 2017 11: 58 New
        +6
        Criminal targeted sabotage could have taken place. Dismissing for negligence will not be enough.
    2. AllXVahhaB
      AllXVahhaB 15 November 2017 07: 21 New
      +4
      Quote: rotmistr60
      They do not do control there at all, are they all in the hands of young IT specialists and, moreover, civilians?

      I suspect that the local controllers have neither an ear nor a snout in IT-technologies ...
    3. Nonna
      Nonna 15 November 2017 07: 33 New
      17
      Enough of whining about some mistakes. Do you really think that IDs are sitting in the Moscow Region and taking pictures from the ceiling? Did you get attention? noise raised? dipped the Americans? In war, all means are good. The times when breasts went to the embrasure long ago passed, Colin Powell with his test tube to confirm this. To live with wolves is a wolf howl. Personally, I approve. Someone here is worried about reputation. Excuse me, why should Russia even be worried? She owes nothing and does not owe anything.
      1. andrew42
        andrew42 15 November 2017 10: 46 New
        +4
        In war, all means are good. This is true. I don’t see much tragedy. I would still attach some shots from the Hollywood action movie. And diversion must be dealt with. Inside On the quiet.
        1. alma
          alma 15 November 2017 17: 28 New
          +2
          I would still attach some shots from the Hollywood action movie

          I agree. And I must say that they took the material from Twitter, from the page of some US colonel. Proof of? And they are secret!
          They, therefore, can publish fakes, but we don’t?
      2. udincev
        udincev 15 November 2017 11: 13 New
        +8
        Quote: Nonna
        dipped the Americans?

        Themselves dipped more (dived it can be said) in the eyes of those who can be respected and considered people (I’m certainly not talking about those who howl, on either side)
        While there will be a meter of everything
        For money. For good money.
        \ And the other is not provided for by the rooted social system, including in Russia, \
        another should not be expected.
      3. Alber
        Alber 15 November 2017 11: 16 New
        +2
        Quote: Nonna
        Enough of whining about some mistakes. Do you really think that IDs are sitting in the Moscow Region and taking pictures from the ceiling?

        Are there few idiots in power?
    4. Baloo
      Baloo 15 November 2017 07: 55 New
      +7
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Well, you can congratulate the press service of the Ministry of Defense: a gift to our opponents was made just great.

      Well, you can congratulate the press service of the Ministry of Defense: a gift to our opponents was made just great.

      Look for a rat, punish in public, judge, let the mittens sew beyond the Urals.
      1. INTER
        INTER 15 November 2017 08: 48 New
        +1
        Why panic? If this is serious, they found a gap, if not, they got a mirror answer) And who, besides the leadership of the Western countries, understands something in this, it was not without reason that Zadornov said: "Well, stupid .......".
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 15 November 2017 14: 42 New
          +2
          Quote: INTER
          Why panic? If this is serious, they found a gap, if not, they got a mirror answer) And who, besides the leadership of the Western countries, understands something in this, it was not without reason that Zadornov said: "Well, stupid .......".

          Remember, we set up a VO with satellite images that a Build sent by mail to the Russian Society of Engineers showed in the news via central channels, and a VO analysis very quickly revealed a fake. By the way, pay attention to the translation of the word "build."
          So here, in the MO rat itself. Catch until the rat has done business or has begun to breed.
    5. keeper03
      keeper03 15 November 2017 10: 26 New
      +1
      Calm, nothing down the drain! We have achieved real results in Syria, there is plenty of evidence for this and this victory cannot be taken away from us !!! soldier hi
    6. Sunjar
      Sunjar 15 November 2017 11: 10 New
      +4
      What kind of tantrums are these? All the painstaking work is merged, blah blah blah blah blah ... The charges must be confirmed. What is the MO for the first time accusing the USA of supporting ISIS (banned in the Russian Federation)? could the Americans refute anything like that before? In total, this fake is, so to speak, evidence, and as many consider targeted sabotage, this will cancel US cooperation with terrorists? In the USA in particular and in the West as a whole, before that, did everyone recognize what? Have the USA and the EU never had fakes themselves? After exposing the fake US and EU, has something changed for the US and EU?

      By the way, in confirmation that someone purposefully engages in sabotage in the direction of news from the Moscow Region, one can cite examples from the dock. a film about Putin, recently in a program with Vladimir Solovyov, Maria Zakharova showed and commented on a photo of Bin Laden in the award of dignitaries of the United States, and now this. Someone above really wants to hurt.
    7. Trotil42
      Trotil42 15 November 2017 11: 20 New
      +6
      Generally nonsense .... as it turned out a boy or a girl controls the site of Min. Defense ... but are there any healthy ones on your head? Surely a bunch of officials in the press service ... and no one controls the launch of nuclear missiles with a case from them ... shame ...
    8. Deck
      Deck 18 November 2017 14: 59 New
      +1
      Come on grumble, what a new press secretary Shoigu has! Experienced and professional! Right now, put things in order.
  2. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 15 November 2017 07: 10 New
    +2
    Maybe it was a hacker stuffing? Penetrated and changed the picture.
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  4. Same lech
    Same lech 15 November 2017 07: 18 New
    +3
    Where did the reviewers look when accepting such an employee? In the direction of what?


    Questions ... Questions ... Questions ...
    let's first understand what it was?

    Mole, negligence, stupidity, madness ... it is difficult to draw conclusions on vague assumptions ... we are waiting for the results of the investigation of the Ministry of Defense.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 15 November 2017 07: 20 New
      17
      Quote: The same Lech
      We are waiting for the results of the investigation of the Ministry of Defense

      I have reasonable doubts about the fact that you will wait for them in the public domain.
      Investigations, as a rule, are not conducted at all in order to appease the electorate.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 15 November 2017 07: 26 New
        +1
        I have reasonable doubts about the fact that you will wait for them in open access.


        Well, that means another puncture will occur in this area at the Ministry of Defense ... one must understand that excessive closeness in the field of IT technologies and information does not bring anything good.
        The Ministry of Defense should rely on the support of our society only then there will be the confidence of the people in it, and since everything is hidden and classified, an excellent basis for rumors and gossip is generated ... always it was sideways for RUSSIA.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 15 November 2017 07: 32 New
          16
          Quote: The same Lech
          Well, then there will be another puncture in this area at the Ministry of Defense

          This is what a fright? IMHO, it’s even good that this is exactly what happened, there is hope that there will be order in this area in the future.
          Quote: The same Lech
          excessive closure in IT technology does nothing good

          Right Only now, for some reason, no one publishes their login passwords. Strange, huh? Complete, panimish, closeness ...
          Quote: The same Lech
          Ministry of Defence should rely on the support of our society only then will the people's trust in him ...

          Bli-and-i-iiin ... The union was not found, the campaign .. the first department did not communicate once and never.
          If now "completely closed", then I am a telephone box.
          Soul, neither you nor the Ministry of Defense should not".
          Quote: The same Lech
          a great base for rumors and gossip

          Yes, and a bolt on them ...
          Quote: The same Lech
          it always went sideways for RUSSIA

          Right But when Bakatin (EMNIP) passed the whole scheme of wiretapping at the embassy to the Americans - that was a true triumph of publicity and democracy negative
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 15 November 2017 08: 02 New
            +3
            But when Bakatin (EMNIP) passed the whole scheme of wiretapping at the embassy to the Americans - that was a true triumph of publicity and democracy


            smile So dip Bakatin in a vat with feces ...
            my opinion needs a new comrade, Stalin, to send this whole layer of commanding traitors starting from Gorbachev in a stage to Magadan to pick out uranium from the rock with a kail.

            there was at one time a situation in our country when we learned about our latest aircraft and weapons from foreign sources ... belay utter absurdity ... do you understand your own people knew less about our army than our enemy in the west ... madhouse 2.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 15 November 2017 09: 41 New
              10
              Quote: The same Lech
              madhouse 2

              Agree good
              A little bit wrong and right away
              Quote: The same Lech
              need a new comrade STALIN

              Seven, such, troubles - one answer ...
              Are you afraid of walking through the stage yourself? There are no saints in this world, but there are plenty of good neighbors (well, so that the cart must be rolled up) yes
              Quote: The same Lech
              there was at one time a situation in our country when we learned about our latest aircraft and weapons from foreign sources

              It was like that. And this is not at all
              Quote: The same Lech
              ... sheer absurdity ...

              , but very correct.
              Quote: The same Lech
              do you understand your own people knew less about our army than our enemy in the west

              To whom it was supposed - all that was needed was known.
              And to the people - "you know less, sleep better." It’s “a lot of sorrow for a lot of knowledge”, yeah laughing
              1. Same lech
                Same lech 15 November 2017 11: 40 New
                +1
                And to the people - "you know less, sleep better." It’s “a lot of sorrow for a lot of knowledge”, yeah laughing


                The bacterium knows least of all ... lives according to the established program ... smile

                the people must not understand the amoeba who is driving their nose and who is telling the truth, and for this it is necessary to have at least a minimum of knowledge at the level of the world encyclopedia ... I want to know everything ...

                And then you understand all sorts of charlatans, psychics, experts on climbed out and powdered brains all and sundry ...

                you need to think and know with your own head ... there are books, magazines, textbooks, reference books, manuals ... the Internet and television in the end ...
                remember, think, think ... draw conclusions based on facts and common sense. smile
          2. ZVO
            ZVO 18 November 2017 22: 31 New
            0
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Quote: The same Lech
            Well, then there will be another puncture in this area at the Ministry of Defense

            This is what a fright? IMHO, it’s even good that this is exactly what happened, there is hope that there will be order in this area in the future.
            Quote: The same Lech
            excessive closure in IT technology does nothing good

            Right Only now, for some reason, no one publishes their login passwords. Strange, huh? Complete, panimish, closeness ...
            Quote: The same Lech
            Ministry of Defence should rely on the support of our society only then will the people's trust in him ...

            Bli-and-i-iiin ... The union was not found, the campaign .. the first department did not communicate once and never.
            If now "completely closed", then I am a telephone box.
            Soul, neither you nor the Ministry of Defense should not".
            Quote: The same Lech
            a great base for rumors and gossip

            Yes, and a bolt on them ...
            Quote: The same Lech
            it always went sideways for RUSSIA

            Right But when Bakatin (EMNIP) passed the whole scheme of wiretapping at the embassy to the Americans - that was a true triumph of publicity and democracy negative


            Listen, answer pliz, if you "here" remember Bakatin, found the Soviet Union, then you are an adult ...
            and in another thread you write that you are a young specialist on a “trial period” who goes to work in Moscow ...

            Do not you think. what are you lying about?
            No?
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 18 November 2017 22: 39 New
              +9
              Quote: ZVO
              Do not you think. what are you lying about?

              It seems to me that I, with you, Vasya, did not lap from one bowl.
              But so be it - I will explain.
              When there was Bakatin, I was already an honest thirty.
              A probationary period is set for an employee who has come to a new place of work. Regardless of the age of the employee, by the way.
              I am just such an employee so far, and a couple of months, apparently, I will be.
              And what, it would seem, is incomprehensible here? fool
      2. Moore
        Moore 15 November 2017 08: 14 New
        +5
        Quote: Golovan Jack

        I have reasonable doubts about the fact that you will wait for them in the public domain.
        Investigations, as a rule, are not conducted at all in order to appease the electorate.

        And these investigations are carried out, as a rule, in such a way that in no case hurt the main actors.
        Loss of vigilance? Hiring "their" little people? Are bronzed and consider below our dignity to delve into the subtleties and trifles?
        No, not heard.
  5. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 15 November 2017 07: 21 New
    +6
    Everyone has mistakes. And who launched the Star Wars for the original? lol
  6. free
    free 15 November 2017 07: 25 New
    +2
    such a fool (and you cannot call it another) is worse than the enemy.
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  8. Pacifist
    Pacifist 15 November 2017 08: 03 New
    +4
    Ourselves found, admitted, apologized, corrected. The "partners," on the blue eye, did not even bother to explain several such cases. Unpleasant of course, but here we are getting closer to the correct formulation of the process.
    1. analgin
      analgin 15 November 2017 08: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: Pacifist
      Ourselves found, admitted, apologized, corrected.

      What are you doing yourself? fool
      Quote: Pacifist
      The "partners," on the blue eye, did not even bother to explain several such cases.

      Why are you staying? What are these cases?
      1. dog
        dog 15 November 2017 14: 56 New
        +1
        Sedna in Amsterdam pharmacy closed? only analgin?
  9. True
    True 15 November 2017 08: 04 New
    +4
    Tyuyuyu. Just think ...
  10. Cat Marquis
    Cat Marquis 15 November 2017 08: 05 New
    +4
    We believe you ...

    Yes .... it is clear that they have not been translated and never will be transferred to Russia ........ wink
    "In our time, one cannot believe, not even oneself. It is possible for me ..." ("Seventeen Moments of Spring").
    1. creak
      creak 15 November 2017 08: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Marquis Cat
      "Believe in our time, no one, not even yourself.

      Kum was eating a cucumber
      And he said with flour
      Turned out to be our father
      Not a father, but a bitch .... am
  11. trophy
    trophy 15 November 2017 08: 49 New
    +7
    Absolutely logical result of all current domestic politics. The apotheosis of non-professionalism. And the consequences of ostentatiousness reigning in the armed forces in particular and the state as a whole. All for the sake of a tick and a beautiful picture. There are many examples, one fight against corruption is worth it. I remember how we all recently mocked similar masterpieces of authorship of pin-up-owls and Ukrainians. Nice neighing! Or maybe we are similar to the latter not only in this, or maybe everything is not so with us kosher as the heads in the box say? Isn't it time to stop admiring how cool we are and blah blah blah, but is it worth it to get down to business? Although not the 37th, well, not like Nizya.
    1. creak
      creak 15 November 2017 09: 57 New
      +6
      Quote: Trofim
      or maybe everything is not so with us kosher as the heads in the box say? Isn’t it time to stop admiring how cool we are and blah blah blah,

      The quieter the success, the louder the fanfare ... fellow
  12. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 15 November 2017 08: 51 New
    +4
    Oh, if only one MO gave the enemies reasons! We have all the Government gives such reasons, but we are already accustomed to this and do not notice. Unfortunately, power, coupled with the oligarchs, has become a thing in itself.
  13. Nikolay73
    Nikolay73 15 November 2017 09: 04 New
    +2
    ... she, she ... I’m interested, but what actually happened, our partners bomb hospitals and schools. the allied hospitals and they’re not going to hackle about it a little, I’m not blundering right away, everything was gone as you could ... that the militants didn’t fade from that village or our bloodthirsty pilots cut them with blunt rusty knives smeared with mustard gas in violation rules of warfare? Actually why such a boil? But the warrior who is guilty of this or not, you really need to check because such incidents strongly resemble sabotage.
    1. Standard
      Standard 15 November 2017 16: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: Nikolay73
      such incidents strongly remind diversion.

      In fact, this is sabotage.
      Without any "reminders."
  14. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 15 November 2017 09: 49 New
    +3
    Actually, there have been too many such “punctures” lately, which suggests that we are stuffed with incorrect information. Recall that Putin showed the "alien" video issued as Russian, and even earlier there was a photo of a Ukrainian fighter near the MN-17. And everything is official, everything is as it should ...
    1. Nikolay73
      Nikolay73 15 November 2017 11: 15 New
      +1
      ... ABS, so to speak, I remember the version with the Ukrainian fighter flying out with full ammunition and the empty one — and I believe in this fairy tale more than a Russian missile that rolled around Ukraine, if only because it is not a needle that one wears and it’s launches, and the air defense system, which consists of ... well, you yourself probably know, and the question of who needs it and why it has a logical answer, well, for me it is natural.
  15. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 15 November 2017 10: 01 New
    0
    Yesterday, the head of Rosseti showed the president a robot-electricman on an UAV. After that, I’m not surprised at anything anymore, there may be a betman electricman and there’s no screen why it still surprises you.
  16. Altona
    Altona 15 November 2017 10: 05 New
    +4
    The Ministry of Defense has long sinned in the selection of some strange pictures. On the website of the Ministry of Defense, we could see a girl on whose head is no more and no less than a feldmütze-German soldier's cap with a cross from the time of the Wehrmacht. Then we saw another girl on a beret who had pinned the Edelweiss of the Wehrmacht mountain rangers. Such to put it mildly, or punctures, or jokes. Then we see at the parade on November 7 ("dedicated" to the parade on November 7, 1941) the Red Army men without red stars on their hats, carefully torn by someone. T-34 tanks and BM-13 Katyusha guard mortars with some ugly RVIO eagles on the sides. In general, the frenzied Black Hundreds, the skapo-estate protection of the current government, we pass off as patriotism. And monuments to the “patriots” are already being built under this tune, but in fact, vile collaborators and sadists Kolchak, Shkuro and Krasnov, dictator Suomi Mannerheim. I’m not surprised that such punctures penetrated command posts, they simply couldn’t but penetrate. A puncture for a joke, naive or custom carelessness in the form of a screenshot from the game, behind which is actually the difficult and real work of our soldiers in Syria.
  17. astankard
    astankard 15 November 2017 10: 27 New
    +2
    Someone believes such a crazy, wretched little article?)))
  18. naspret
    naspret 15 November 2017 10: 28 New
    0
    It smacks of diversion. There is an information war (and not only). and therefore diversions can be informational.
  19. keeper03
    keeper03 15 November 2017 10: 29 New
    +1
    You just need to apologize and attach real evidence, then everything will fall into place! stop hi
    And you can continue to continue to work in the style of the United States, with whom, as they say, you’ll get enough! wassat
    Woe-liberals - start your tedious song, look at you, hoo hoo! good
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 15 November 2017 13: 10 New
      0
      Apologize? For what? It would be before whom to throw beads.
  20. igrik595
    igrik595 15 November 2017 10: 42 New
    +4
    The usual crush on top ... There was an urgent team in the room, and a visual photo has not yet been delivered.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 15 November 2017 11: 23 New
      +2
      visual photos have not yet been delivered.
      but was it? Did they take him by courier? I’ll tell you a secret: there is the Internet, faxes and other, other. We still received data from English observatories in the late 80s, and now there is a problem. They raised a howl allegedly because of one employee ...
  21. Valery Timofeev_2
    Valery Timofeev_2 15 November 2017 10: 53 New
    0
    How quickly you can lose the credibility that has been gained over the years due to the oversight of one employee! (Well, if this was done not for money, but for negligence) The punishment for this should not follow slowly!
  22. asavchenko59
    asavchenko59 15 November 2017 11: 14 New
    +2
    On reflection, I came to the conclusion: Well done, military, more mischief, more than any shnyaga, and let her comrades try to prove the opposite and in general, let them get ready to work as foreign agents, which they are, creatures ......
    Glory to the Army and Shoigu !!!!!
    1. Cat Marquis
      Cat Marquis 15 November 2017 11: 52 New
      +2
      Upon reflection, I came to the conclusion:

      Well, well, it turns out it happens ....
      PS: Ah, "somewhere" they shout: "Glory to the heroes! Glory to Ukraine!" ....
    2. Yanakolos
      Yanakolos 15 November 2017 17: 08 New
      +1
      Exactly, it’s enough to beat our fists on the chest and prove that we are not camels. To live with wolves howl like a wolf, or not to see good luck. They are an information war for us and we are all for garlic, when we need to weave their faces in their own poop.
  23. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 15 November 2017 11: 19 New
    +1
    .. "It’s especially disappointing that this happened against the backdrop of similar American failures - they happen quite regularly and before they gave us a sense of some moral superiority. For example, in January, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova ridiculed the appearance of a screenshot from the game in CNN news about" Russian hackers " Fallout 4.

    All these years, the Russian Defense Ministry has also actively and sensitively "counterattacked" the West in the information field. The story of the “bombing of Syrian hospitals by Russian planes”, the events surrounding chemical weapons and the “bloody boy from Aleppo” is memorable (the Foreign Ministry mainly participated in exposing this fake, but military intelligence also had a hand). ... "https://vz.ru/world/2017/11/14/895278.html
  24. Gardamir
    Gardamir 15 November 2017 11: 20 New
    0
    was mistaken
    Yes, there is no mistake, just the authorities consider all peak-peak
  25. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 15 November 2017 11: 50 New
    0
    "Great gift" to Putin after meeting with Trump at least briefly in Syria? Maybe. that the two most powerful Presidents began to find an understanding of interaction (“common ground”) and ... did such a “pig” be pushed by WHO? MO and friend Shoigu !? An accident? May be! Although I don’t think so - Putin’s conscious setup on the part of our "hawks" (again, financing?). And what do you think?
  26. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 15 November 2017 12: 02 New
    +4
    The "American hackers" are to blame ..)
    1. Shadow of darkness
      Shadow of darkness 15 November 2017 15: 24 New
      0
      A great option to blame their carelessness on enemy hackers, at the same time you can immediately blame them on them for interfering in future presidential elections! bully
      1. Razvedka_Boem
        Razvedka_Boem 15 November 2017 18: 57 New
        0
        A great option to blame their carelessness on enemy hackers

        You are probably talking about "Russian hackers" ..)
        1. Shadow of darkness
          Shadow of darkness 16 November 2017 11: 13 New
          0
          It’s they who bring down “Russian hackers”, and we will bring down “American hackers”! bully
  27. Santor
    Santor 15 November 2017 12: 16 New
    +1
    That is, before THIS Ministry of Defense laid everything out as it is, and then Suddenly some kind of desu was thrown off and children’s excuses sculpted? Do not go where you do not understand anything. Not for YOU was thrown into the network THIS video. Those who were supposed to see him saw it. And the fact that they were brought to them - they understood. You can continue to shout "traitors, all to the count !!!!"
    1. keeper03
      keeper03 15 November 2017 12: 29 New
      0
      Sergey Viktorovich, you are right as always, 100%! smile
    2. Standard
      Standard 15 November 2017 17: 05 New
      0
      Quote: Santor
      And the fact that they were brought to them - understood

      At least hint what they needed to understand.
  28. Evgenijus
    Evgenijus 15 November 2017 12: 26 New
    +1
    The employee of the personnel department that hired a "provocateur" in the information department of the Ministry of Defense is to remove from the personnel of the Ministry of Defense. Together with the "provocateur". In general, it is necessary to think about the penetration into the departments of the Ministry of "foreign agents". Maybe I don’t know if the FSB is working on this issue?
  29. icant007
    icant007 15 November 2017 12: 43 New
    +1
    I think it all happened like that.
    Two young guys are sitting in this service. One says to the other: “Look at the pictures like in a computer game. Let's have fun, we’ll take one of the toys and substitute it for the real one. Suddenly it’s choking”
    Second: "Why, it will be fun"
    Well, that pinned)
    1. Standard
      Standard 15 November 2017 17: 03 New
      0
      Quote: icant007
      I think it all happened like that.

      Horror.
  30. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 15 November 2017 13: 07 New
    +1
    And what, in fact, are troubles? Look, ukrosmi put up columns of Russian tanks in the Donbass and Nitsche, people shawal. Pads happen, and you shouldn’t sprinkle your head with ash and beat in hysteria because of this - Ah, how will the West react there ?! It was necessary to iron these columns and then let them already prove that the aerospace forces were not processed. Allies of the Syrian army were repeatedly bombed and nothing - everything is in the order of things - collateral damage and no more. So you don’t have to yell at the whole world what we are. They’re byak, and we are right. Just make your own conclusions quietly, without a squeal.
  31. panzerfaust
    panzerfaust 15 November 2017 13: 54 New
    0
    Kindergarten guys. I never expected such a trivial mess from such a serious department! Konashenkov, because he seems to be responsible for the media. His puncture, trust, but check!
  32. Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 15 November 2017 13: 59 New
    +2
    Everything is much more prosaic. There is information, but there is no picture for it yet. The big uncles in uniform began to swear loudly, stomp their feet, shake their fists and order "BIRTH!" And where did the subordinate disappear? So they "gave birth" ...
    1. icant007
      icant007 15 November 2017 19: 54 New
      0
      I agree again. I had such a version in my head)
      1. icant007
        icant007 15 November 2017 19: 58 New
        +1
        Although it seems to me that the people who allowed this did not go through the army school of "giving birth") There is still a variation "you are an officer, well, Spease ..... go somewhere")
  33. dog
    dog 15 November 2017 14: 49 New
    +1
    What a hysteria ?!
    Well, yes, there was an overlay or not an overlay - and now we need to dissolve the Moscow Region, curtail the operation in Syria, send the Russian army to Russia home? Because of the hillock every day, a thousand fakes and nothing bent until the world. Apologized MO, what is the problem?
    1. Yanakolos
      Yanakolos 15 November 2017 17: 05 New
      +1
      the impression is that everyone was just waiting for something like that to gloat
    2. Yakut14
      Yakut14 15 November 2017 17: 20 New
      0
      Problems can come out much more serious if now the MO just unsubscribes, they say they overlooked, did not control. But it’s so possible to look at the “mole” in his own department, and this is already much more serious!
  34. Yanakolos
    Yanakolos 15 November 2017 16: 59 New
    +2
    When you give out our pictures as yours, when you juggle both pictures and events, when they carry all sorts of nonsense and pass it off as true facts - it's nothing. it is possible, but when we had an incident, this is the end of the world, we brand our as shameful liars and begin to sprinkle ash on our heads. It’s just sick of your honesty, gentlemen, that means they can do everything and everything is permissible, and we don’t, no, or they will suddenly say that we are bad ... Yes, our honesty and sincerity are already akin to naivety - they shit on our heads and we wipe ourselves off and that's it we insist that we are honest. all honestly and do not dare anything. Well, it happened that the wrong files were attached, and, mind you, the pictures from the game, BUT aiding the Ishilians is from reality, so this is not such a lie, but rather a concrete hint. In general, you can simply laugh at this crap, and not gloat as if all your life have been maliciously waiting for this moment.
  35. Yanakolos
    Yanakolos 15 November 2017 17: 02 New
    +1
    When you give out our pictures as yours, when you juggle both pictures and events, when they carry all sorts of nonsense and pass it off as true facts - it's nothing. it is possible, but when we had an incident, this is the end of the world, we brand our as shameful liars and begin to sprinkle ash on our heads.
    It’s just sick of your honesty, gentlemen, that means they can do everything and everything is permissible, and we don’t, no, or they will suddenly say that we are bad ... Yes, our honesty and sincerity are already akin to naivety - they shit on our heads and we wipe ourselves off and that's it we insist that we are honest. all honestly and do not dare anything. Well, it happened that the wrong files were attached, and, mind you, the pictures from the game, BUT giving the terrorists help is already out of reality, so this is not such a lie, but rather a concrete hint. In general, you can simply laugh at this crap, and not gloat as if all your life have been maliciously waiting for this moment.
  36. Yanakolos
    Yanakolos 15 November 2017 17: 11 New
    0
    like mona, tovaischi? - MONA WHEN NUNO! Moreover, the picture is not far from the truth.
  37. dDYHA
    dDYHA 15 November 2017 17: 18 New
    +3
    I don’t watch TV anymore. The same thing every day. Ukraine, Syria and Syria, Ukraine and in the USA there will soon be a crisis. I caught myself thinking that a sufficient number of talk shows about Ukraine have already been recorded. And you can no longer shoot and twist them in a circle. All the same, no one will notice the differences.
  38. Wolka
    Wolka 15 November 2017 18: 40 New
    0
    here you are dreaming about the pretzels of heaven about an imminent victory, look for gentlemen, the control over the information has been definitely lost, and even if it can be a diversion ...
  39. Radikal
    Radikal 15 November 2017 19: 33 New
    0
    In any case, whatever the outcome, we can only express our deep disappointment at the incident and wish the press service of the Ministry of Defense to remove such effective civilian personnel away from displaying materials from Syria.
    I agree with the authors, only what can be expected from the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, if the spokesman for the Guarantor spoke in the spirit that they say what we are making noise, well, a "technical" error has appeared - who doesn’t happen to anyone! wassat
  40. Radikal
    Radikal 15 November 2017 19: 37 New
    0
    Quote: olimpiada15
    It is not a matter of staff of the personnel departments, they are engaged in pure clearance, either direct managers of new employees accept the work, or managers signing the personnel order give instructions to execute the employee. Surnames in the studio, because for those who do not understand what MO is in this department, there is nothing and shoulder straps they do not suit.

    yes good
  41. Radikal
    Radikal 15 November 2017 19: 39 New
    0
    Quote: YanaKolos
    When you give out our pictures as yours, when you juggle both pictures and events, when they carry all sorts of nonsense and pass it off as true facts - it's nothing. it is possible, but when we had an incident, this is the end of the world, we brand our as shameful liars and begin to sprinkle ash on our heads.
    It’s just sick of your honesty, gentlemen, that means they can do everything and everything is permissible, and we don’t, no, or they will suddenly say that we are bad ... Yes, our honesty and sincerity are already akin to naivety - they shit on our heads and we wipe ourselves off and that's it we insist that we are honest. all honestly and do not dare anything. Well, it happened that the wrong files were attached, and, mind you, the pictures from the game, BUT giving the terrorists help is already out of reality, so this is not such a lie, but rather a concrete hint. In general, you can simply laugh at this crap, and not gloat as if all your life have been maliciously waiting for this moment.

    And this is by accident not you the author of this "crap" ?! wassat It painfully eagerly rushed to defend the "distinguished"! sad
  42. icant007
    icant007 15 November 2017 20: 02 New
    +3
    Offering:
    1. Find the guilty
    2. For get along punish
    3. Award for ingenuity
    ))))))))
    and send war correspondents to Syria)))
  43. alexhol
    alexhol 15 November 2017 20: 39 New
    +1
    "Life is bad without sucker!" Well, you read the comments, it’s amazing to be given: what propaganda does for adults and far from stupid people. Is it really not clear that the Moscow Region was simply “seized by the hand”. What has the authorities generally recognized lately?
    1. turbris
      turbris 17 November 2017 10: 43 New
      0
      Well, the troll woke up, transferred everything to the existing power, calm down for this, they will not give you an extra cracker.
      Of course, such things cannot be allowed on the MO website, this is an accident or a planned action, I think they will figure it out, but the fact that they honestly admitted and corrected the error did the right thing.
  44. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer 17 November 2017 10: 55 New
    +1
    That is, how to let the militants out of Aleppo - give them buses and take them to the side of Hama - this will save the city from destruction. And the same thing done by others is aiding?
    The principle is one, only it is presented in different ways - is it not a policy of double standards on the part of the Russian media and the Russian Defense Ministry.
  45. Old warrior
    Old warrior 17 November 2017 15: 53 New
    0
    And what, s igil not help?
  46. Dargavs
    Dargavs 18 November 2017 11: 06 New
    0
    Dear authors of the article, the title contains a statement. And most of the participants even believe in the Ministry of Defense. Even if there were no pictures, frames were not applied to the information. Regarding the reliability of the photo video materials, they are not proof of the commission of an unlawful act without a special examination. And if defense mines really wanted to present evidence, then there would be more than one (for example, a living witness, or a thing-dock).
    IMHO Probably no one needs it.
  47. Fresh
    Fresh 18 November 2017 23: 01 New
    0
    There are not one photo, all those photos from the news release are a proven fake. It turns out that the error is in one photo, the news itself is an error.
  48. Stegosaurus Brontosaurus
    Stegosaurus Brontosaurus 19 November 2017 15: 37 New
    0
    Quote: YanaKolos
    Well, it happened that the wrong files were attached, and, mind you, the pictures from the game, BUT giving the terrorists help is already out of reality, so this is not such a lie, but rather a concrete hint.


    Like this wrong files? And what did the fake photo do in the general heap of the necessary files? What was it for?
  49. BASS
    BASS 19 November 2017 19: 59 New
    0
    On the screen, there was another video. Look at the news more closely. And these two were already shining somehow.
  50. Mihail59
    Mihail59 20 November 2017 03: 35 New
    0
    In war as in war, there is such a trick misinformation)))