"He couldn't even get technology from the French!" How Modi Rafale Bought

In the Indian press, materials appeared about a possible corruption component at the conclusion of a transaction for the purchase of multi-purpose Rafale fighters. This is a deal on the acquisition of French-made fighter jets 36, personally approved by the country's prime minister Narendra Modi.

English edition Indian Defense News It comes out with material that speaks about claims against the Indian leadership about the deal with France. In particular, Randip Suryewala, a representative of the Indian Congress, notes that members of the government have violated the military procurement procedure itself. According to the representative of the congress, the cabinet of the country completely ignored the interests of the Indian company Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd.

From the statement:

10 April, Prime Minister Modi visited France and announced a deal to buy 36 fighter jets "Rafale". This was done unilaterally without complying with the military procurement protocol, without any intergovernmental agreement and in the absence of the Minister of Defense of India. At the same time in France was Anil Ambani.

For reference: Anil Ambani - one of the richest people in India. His fortune is estimated at nearly 14 billion dollars. Has connections in the USA. He is the owner of Reliance Defense Limited. This company has become one of the parties to the transaction.

The amount of the contract with France amounted to 8,7 billion dollars. According to Suryevaly, this is an overpriced purchase price.

From the material:

The time has come for the Prime Minister to answer, why were the planes bought for such huge money? The deal could be made almost three times cheaper. Why they did not insist on the transfer of technology Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd? Why did the government promote Reliance Defense Limited? This is frank lobbying by the head of the cabinet of interests of his friends-capitalists.

Comments

[Dimontius]

Now it’s clear why the paddlers threw info about the amers on the pike, in order to offer hawkers from new submarine orders to the Indians)

[Barshchik-M]

corruption component in the transaction for the acquisition of multi-role fighter Rafale.

It was unclean all at once .. Such a sharp change among the Indians, when I remember, we had already agreed on the supply of our fighter jets and suddenly .. hehe For a long time the article was here.
India, how suckers are bred into brilliant military toys from different countries ..
Well, the flag is in their hands and the elephants are in control, I will not mind them when all the neighbors start to wet them ..

[Pirogov]

Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M

It was unclean all at once .. Such a sharp change among the Indians, when I remember, we had already agreed on the supply of our fighter jets and suddenly .. hehe For a long time the article was here.
India, how suckers are bred into brilliant military toys from different countries ..
Well, the flag is in their hands and the elephants are in control, I will not mind them when all the neighbors start to wet them ..

Good evening . Vitalik in India, any defense order begins with kickbacks, as in many other countries.

[antivirus]

Well, the flag is in their hands and the elephants are in control, I will not mind them when all the neighbors start to wet them

is their way to paradise

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M

.. when I remember already agreed on the supply of our fighters.

The MiG was confident about winning the competition for 126 light fighters and for some reason did not even present the aircraft at the exhibition, it seems in Bangalore. This untied the hands of a bunch of Indians + French, but the price even soared without technology so that it was limited to 36 cars.
Of course, there are a lot of questions: how, having Su established production, can someone else buy a car without technology. The answers are also on the surface ..

[stas]

There is only one conclusion: under capitalism, they steal everything to a large extent to the extent of their authority, and under Stalin, and even during Brezhnev’s time, they didn’t steal in the USSR as they do now.
The death penalty for embezzlement on a particularly large scale and the confiscation with a long term of imprisonment prevented many thefts.
Why do we need a thieves market flea market in Russia?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: stas

There is only one conclusion: under capitalism, they steal everything to a large extent to the extent of their authority, and under Stalin, and even during Brezhnev’s time, they didn’t steal in the USSR as they do now.
The death penalty for embezzlement on a particularly large scale and the confiscation with a long term of imprisonment prevented many thefts.
Why do we need a thieves market flea market in Russia?

where under Stalin you will roll your comments ????

[Solomon Kane]

where under Stalin you will roll your comments ????

And there will be nothing to comment and no one .....

[kirgiz58]

Quote: Solomon Kane

And there will be nothing to comment and no one .....

Come on, then fear to catch up with that! Everything would be normal: a thief - sat, a teacher - taught, a peasant - sowed, and all together would be calm for the future of their children. But don’t talk about “bloody Stalin”, since the drunk had a tank company, otherwise they would have washed themselves with a blood, worse than in a civilian one.

[Solomon Kane]

So what about the speech - everything will be fine, there will be nothing to comment on .....

[kirgiz58]

Quote: Solomon Kane

So what about the speech - everything will be fine, there will be nothing to comment on .....

There may be nothing to comment on, but we can share the news.

[plotnikov561956]

For betrayal of the 90s they paid an order of magnitude more than 37 ... and as a result we have not a powerful state, but a colony ..

[Skeptic]

I remember my mother told me that my grandfather was tapped into the organs, and so it was right after the war, and the grandfather himself was in the past from the organs, in general the informer and his family were taken away. I don’t know where. Grandfather did not hide what he was doing, but for one moron did not get it, and so his relatives suffered for him. I don’t think that at that time they were very versed in the organs, they were mostly squeezed by anonymous letters. There were many who returned from the camps and played important roles both in the war and in the development of the country.

[Woland]

Under Stalin, there would be no need to write them!

[Mih1974]

"On the fence"

[Sars]

Why "on the fence"! “Combat leaflet”: “re-educated Sobchak exceeded the plan for collecting uranium dust by 5% and received a bonus in the form of additional soldering”

[cerbuk6155]

Shish to you and not technology. It is only RUSSIA that can supply and looking at you how you have become now related to RUSSIA, no one will give them to you. And why do they need a competitor.

[RASKAT]

I agree, we also need to behave in a tight fist, otherwise we somehow parted painfully. Aircraft carrier, nuclear submarines, ships, planes, missiles. And you don’t give up technologies at all, you don’t like something, well, go look and maybe someone will share other technologies .

[antivirus]

The United States will give them a lot, yesterday's, which is quite modern for Asia.
and the Franks kicked us and Amers
then they will take theirs (loot taxis) and we ??? - the pariahs will die anyway on the porch or in Rafaly - no difference

[iliitchitch]

8 \ 700 = 000. Wow . They will harden, how to drink, give a hilt. Or hara-kiri.

[Kurare]

This is taking into account the training of technical personnel, spare parts and weapons. Although, the amount is still very impressive.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Kurare

Rafale

for some reason, with regard to Russia, all this immediately begins to be called corruption and a cut, and here you even have an excuse !!!

[Kurare]

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

and here you even have an excuse !!!

Fasting for the sake of justifying someone or something I did not write. You just need to consider all aspects of the scope of supply. This does not mean that the French "raped" the Indians in this way.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Kurare

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

and here you even have an excuse !!!

Fasting for the sake of justifying someone or something I did not write. You just need to consider all aspects of the scope of supply. This does not mean that the French "raped" the Indians in this way.

it was just necessary to write right away that the storage with India was mired in corruption ... without any pilot training there, etc, etc !!!

[Kurare]

So I wrote that an impressive amount turned out, even taking into account all the "shortcomings"

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Kurare

So I wrote that an impressive amount turned out, even taking into account all the "shortcomings"

it was necessary without any account immediately about corruption !!!

[Kurare]

Well, it was necessary to leave a piece of intrigue, not to spread it all at once ...

[Simon]

When the Indians realize that it’s not necessary to put the rich in power: The richer, the more corrupt!

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Simon

When the Indians realize that it’s not necessary to put the rich in power: The richer, the more corrupt! They do not care about the country, most importantly money.

Actually, this is not a problem in India alone.

[Going]

Quote: Simon

When the Indians realize that it’s not necessary to put the rich in power: The richer, the more corrupt!

A double-edged sword, but what about the poor and the hungry who came to power?

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Going

and what to do to the poor and hungry who came to power?

I’ll try to guess: to provide for ourselves and my family and all descendants up to the seventh generation, until they have deprived of the “bread” place?

[Going]

Now, there is such a popular wisdom - "our troubles are because our kings are poor."

[bouncyhunter]

Until there is a strict system of punishments for this, cuts and kickbacks cannot be eradicated.

[verner1967]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Until there is a strict punishment system

harsh punishment repels only suckers, the most important thing in punishment is its inevitability. Under the USSR, the death penalty was for murder, embezzlement on a particularly large scale, counterfeiting, currency trading ... so what? They killed, stole, printed, sold ...))))

[Going]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Until there is a strict system of punishments for this, cuts and kickbacks cannot be eradicated.

Again a trivial question - who are the judges? , this is a complex process of creating a civil society, which goes on endlessly winning or losing.

[bouncyhunter]

Yes, without an effective and really functioning judiciary, nothing will come of it.

[Going]

There is not a single country in the world where there are no judicial errors and, unfortunately, this process is very painful and complicated.

[bouncyhunter]

That's it. But it’s better to make mistakes and not do anything without making mistakes. My opinion is this.

[kirgiz58]

Quote: Going

There is not a single country in the world where there are no judicial errors and, unfortunately, this process is very painful and complicated.

If, in the event that a court error is discovered later, a similar sentence is applied to them, then there will be no mistakes, and the manufacturer of the “wrong” case is twice as much as the “wrong” sentence, then the era of justice will come.

[bouncyhunter]

I just offered a solution to the problem as I see it. And how to make punishment inevitable, I’m not an adviser - I don’t have the appropriate education.

[verner1967]

Quote: bouncyhunter

I just offered a solution to the problem as I see it

so this is not the solution to the problem

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: verner1967

so this is not the solution to the problem

And in what? I am pleased to hear your point of view.

[verner1967]

Quote: bouncyhunter

And in what? I am pleased to hear your point of view.

so why did our dialogue begin

Quote: verner1967

harsh punishment repels only suckers, the most important thing in punishment is its inevitability.

[Going]

This is what politicians use ... like we will tell you, help you, there is only one solution - there is common sense of an adult healthy person.

[Roma 1977]

And another wisdom: “Poverty can be different. Some people have stale bread, others have small diamonds” ...

[Solomon Kane]

and what to do to the poor and hungry who came to power?

Poor to power?
Yes, it's in the fairy tale "Golden Antelope".
In realities, the posts are divided within the highest caste - the brahmanas, all the Indian capital is cooked there ....

[Roma 1977]

Eh. When the Russians will understand it! ...

[SNEAKY]

Really funny. The Indians, in addition to the film for the movie, can’t trust anything in their hands. That’s when they catapult while standing, then the shirt is short)

[bald]

And India is overwhelmed at the end. Buy provided, along with technology. Here Ambani throws them doubly - first at the purchase price, well, and then sell the technology (a little later)

[Sergey53]

If he really wanted to get them. Well, very. As in the proverb: "Love is evil, you will love the goat."

[nathanael]

Here it is. And ... they use it

[Going]

The amount of the contract with France amounted to 8,7 billion dollars. According to Suryevaly, this is an overpriced purchase price.

And here kickbacks, everything in the world flows in one direction.

[Sergei75]

to shoot the traitor, tore off our deal, ours would have sold them the technology ... though they all already know.

[family tree]

Yes, our stupidly do not catch up
We inflate the price tag, every ten
We begin to bargain, with screams, clapping on the ears, curses and flattery, but at the end of the end, invite a couple of Jews from Odessa
We reset the price, weep at a loss.
Fso! Everyone is happy

[Roma 1977]

Like Hasek in Schweik: Some Jew sold vodka tinted with onions, passing it off as French cognac. To which the lieutenant said: "If he still says that the French abandoned this cognac, fleeing from Russia in 1812, then shoot him."

[Anchonsha]

It seems clear why Russia has recently been losing an arms tender in India. Well, keeping the French is no less mean than the Anglo-Saxons in their actions, in order to move us away from good orders. It’s good that the helicopter carriers would not burn with them.

[faterdom]

To sell is an art, chess will be more complicated, and we have historically made a sinecure for sons and daughters from this industry since the Soviet era (international trade, and especially the arms business). Well and again about Modi: if we were assured that “a cook can manage the state” (in fact, they didn’t let a single cook go), then Indians, after a thousand-year tradition of caste, Modi, is the first leader from the “untouchables” who recently even the status of peasants did not shine. From dirt to Kings!

[Vladimir K.]

Who assured you that a cook could manage the state? Maybe it’s time to leave all these myths from the 90s alone, when the leaders of the Soviet era were credited with what could not be, just to denigrate the Soviet regime.

[Domestic cat]

Airplanes were sold to Indians, now multiplied by 10 and now the happy owners of Rafaley may have technologies. When they compare the total costs with the price that they could pay us ... they will weep and bang their heads about something.

[Vladimir K.]

Honest and not prone to corruption fair-faced Frenchmen who criticize bribe-taking everywhere, no matter where they go, dumped a rather feeble jackpot to high-ranking Indian leaders.

[racha4]

Are they honest and unwilling?)) In the elections, who flew out of the race in France for nepotism? Wives and other relatives are attached to warm places, when a sheep gives a not weak head start on mental abilities, these relatives.)) And they squeak to the whole world. ..Well, we know who's screaming-hold the thief!

[shans2]

In fact, this is good, the Indian military should compare what% of fitness will be after a couple of years of operation of gentle toad airplanes)). We have an anti-vandal technique against a fool, and then the Indians manage to break it, because they do not comply with either safety precautions or service standards.

[SEERforSEER]

Quote: SarS

Why "on the fence"! “Combat leaflet”: “re-educated Sobchak exceeded the plan for collecting uranium dust by 5% and received a bonus in the form of additional soldering”

"Khodorkovsky overfulfilled the plan for tailoring gloves by 260% and committed to exceed the plan next month by 450%"

[SEERforSEER]

Quote: Sergei75

shoot the traitor, tore off our deal, ours would have sold them the technology ...though everyone already knows them.

Have you sold for a hamburger?

[Eflintuk]

If we don’t know how to trade and who we need to roll back, then why are the Indians to blame? And Hindu corruption is their internal affair.

[exo]

India is very inconsistent in its aspirations. And not a single country, being in their right mind, will pass on breakthrough technologies to it. Indians themselves, as life shows, are not able to build. And if a conflict occurs, they will be tormented with this hodgepodge of weapons.

[racha4]

So the Indians got into a corruption scandal! Maybe our "hackers" troll them, so to speak, for abandoning our fighters? In any case, the price of Rafael is sky-high!