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3 of 29. So what did they talk about in Belgrade?

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The meeting of special representatives of Russia and the USA in Ukraine ended in Belgrade. The main subject of the meeting, as was reported before it began, is connected with the question of the possible entry of a peacekeeping mission to the Donbass. Information Agency TASS cites the statement of Vladislav Surkov:


We discussed in detail the Russian initiative to deploy the UN forces in Ukraine. The United States passed its proposals to the Russian draft resolution of the UN Security Council. The American document consists of 29 paragraphs. Three of them, our delegation found acceptable.


3 of 29. So what did they talk about in Belgrade?


It is noted that the meeting was held behind closed doors. After the meeting, Kurt Volcker and Vladislav Surkov at the American embassy in the Russian Federation made a statement of the following nature:
It is not surprising that the United States and Russia have different concepts about how to achieve peace, but we will continue to work together in this direction. Both sides agreed to analyze today's discussions and think about further ways to solve this problem.

In Ukraine, about this rather meager information about the meeting in Belgrade, a whole mountain of materials was given out, many of which were again reduced to Peremog. Allegedly, Russia put itself in a difficult position by approving only 3 from 29 of the American proposals. At the same time, no one in Kiev wrote a word about Ukraine being so “self-sufficient” today that its fate is decided even without the participation of Ukrainian representatives proper.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 14 November 2017 12: 53 New
    +9
    A.A. Gromyko and three would not have approved ..
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 14 November 2017 13: 05 New
      10
      3 out of 29. What did Surkov and Walker talk about in Belgrade?

      They drank beer, the jury on duty was told, but they parted. Nothing. yes
      1. jjj
        jjj 14 November 2017 13: 19 New
        0
        Yes, well-known PPR
    2. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 14 November 2017 15: 34 New
      +1
      Just curious - did you discuss the Russian paragraphs? And how many out of how many found both sides satisfactory?
    3. svp67
      svp67 14 November 2017 16: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      A.A. Gromyko and three would not have approved ..

      We don’t know what the items were ... Maybe like Joseph Vissarionovich’s:
      Stalin is talking on the phone with Churchill:
      - Nat.
      - Nat.
      - Nat.
      - Nat.
      - Yes.
      - Nat.
      - Nat.
      Hangs up.
      Poskrebyshev asks:
      - Comrade Stalin, what did you agree to at Churchill?
      - And he asked me if I can hear him well.
  2. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 14 November 2017 12: 58 New
    +9
    Would Loud and Co. That and such questions would seem savagery.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 14 November 2017 13: 07 New
      +6
      It is a pity that this is wildness. And that there is no more Gromyko and ..
      Quote: Siberian barber
      Would Loud and Co. That and such questions would seem savagery.
      1. Kent0001
        Kent0001 14 November 2017 14: 39 New
        0
        There is simply no Power that these people represented with all the consequences. Yes, and people chopped.
  3. Million
    Million 14 November 2017 13: 01 New
    0
    Surkov is so similar to an actor from the Interns!
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 14 November 2017 13: 02 New
    +1
    And the positions will not converge. Never. The tasks are different.
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      1. 16112014nk
        16112014nk 14 November 2017 13: 26 New
        0
        The Georgian did not know that he was Georgian. But guessed. © yes "Avas" M. Zhvanetsky.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 14 November 2017 13: 37 New
          +2
          Quote: 16112014nk
          Georgian did not know that he is Georgian

          what Well, maybe you're right ....
          From the memoirs of Svetlana Alliluyeva
          "My brother Vasily once told me in those days:" Do you know, our father used to be a Georgian? ", I was 6 years old and I did not know what it was like to be a Georgian ..."
  6. Roma
    Roma 1977 14 November 2017 13: 07 New
    +2
    These two last names alone are enough. They don’t agree on anything good.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 14 November 2017 14: 19 New
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      Quote: Roma-1977
      These two last names alone are enough. They don’t agree on anything good.

      We will see. At least Walker stumbled to Washington to rewrite homework.
  7. evil partisan
    evil partisan 14 November 2017 13: 16 New
    +7
    The American document consists of 29 paragraphs. Three of them were considered acceptable by our delegation.
    That is, if I correctly translated from diplomatic into normal human, then our Americans were sent for ... 26 times. yes
    1. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 14 November 2017 13: 47 New
      +2
      You're right... good And the more we send them, the more profitable for us .. Time works for us .. Well, maybe 404, and will you survive this winter? what
      1. Lycan
        Lycan 14 November 2017 15: 02 New
        0
        Quote: LiSiCyn
        Well, sho 404, and will you survive this winter?

        The Yakut mammoths were not even worried. They still find their representatives.
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 14 November 2017 15: 55 New
          +2
          In Yakutia, they find LIVING mammoths ??? (Them) .. Fig yourself !!! Ah, I didn’t know belay Are they in the red book?
          1. Lycan
            Lycan 14 November 2017 17: 34 New
            +2
            Oh I didn’t say that alive smile.... - suitable for writing about them something anatomical and historical. Although ukrov should not be underestimated - do you really think they won’t find something to warm up until spring (= to a new "national" aggravation). The same Russians, but with a "collapsed" roof. Although the old people feel sorry.
            1. LiSiCyn
              LiSiCyn 15 November 2017 00: 14 New
              +1
              They will find ... Himself, in Kazakhstan in 95-96. In the city of Taldy - Kurgan, I saw 5 floors with sticking pipes of bourgeois ... Where pipes stuck out, there were still people living .. And the rest went to Russia ... Kazakhs were able to "get out", there was no war ... And 404, can?
              1. Lycan
                Lycan 15 November 2017 09: 33 New
                0
                Potbelly stoves - our everything ...
                404 - I think so ... but this is under consideration of individual close to cave conditions of anthropoid formations. Millions of years have lived like that. On a national scale, I think, one or two more years must wait until the energy-dependent strategic enterprises “fail”. (The body can live up to 6 minutes after the failure / amputation / pressure of the blood vessels / brain death)).
                And then the era of the Vin tribes will come.
  8. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 14 November 2017 13: 32 New
    +1
    Quote: 210ox
    It is a pity that this is wildness. And that there is no more Gromyko and ..
    Quote: Siberian barber
    Would Loud and Co. That and such questions would seem savagery.

    So, we are arranged, probably (
    We create problems, then we overcome them.
    How will this node be cut? Or in any way ??
    1. evil partisan
      evil partisan 14 November 2017 17: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: Siberian barber
      How will this node be cut?

      And especially: to whom, where and by what? lol
    2. Lycan
      Lycan 14 November 2017 17: 38 New
      +1
      In ancient scriptures there are options for solving "tightly tightened knots."
      - about Atlantis;
      - about the incident with the surviving Noah,
      - about the Gordian knot (only the knot will, of course, be radical people).
      ----------
      PS: Constantly such a knot cannot be tightened, because Ukraine is a tidbit with a population of 45 million taxpayers + hefty territory. They will decide.
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 15 November 2017 00: 26 New
        +1
        They will decide ... But, the problem is that the people of the 404th, as always, will ruin everything laughing And moreover, it does not matter who it will be Natsik, “Eureka”, red, black ... As a country 404, it has outlived itself ... Everything, kirdyk .. Moreover, LDNR, I’m terry urine, I don’t think.
        1. Lycan
          Lycan 15 November 2017 09: 55 New
          0
          If you leave "non-stop" alone, then after the expansion of power, the staff will settle there (following the example of Afghanistan, Iraq, or as they want it in Syria). Control of ever larger territories links the enemy (RF + China).
          But otherwise - it is necessary to somehow seize the initiative: the 404th will never be independent and successful (under the reign of temporary workers). The way out for Ukraine and its people is exclusively through an alternative to the L \ DPR. But here for operational interception, we need considerable trained military units with the necessary technical equipment, rear support, sensible generals, extremely accurate steps taken + further plans for a speedy restoration of the post-war situation. And all this from the side of the L \ DPR. How many do we want from them? But this would be the most logical development for the whole postUkraine.
  9. samarin1969
    samarin1969 14 November 2017 19: 03 New
    0
    Yeah, the "fateful" look ...
  10. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 15 November 2017 10: 29 New
    0
    3 out of 29 points ... This is strong. And then - did not agree with the points, but "found them acceptable ", i.e. not the fact that on these points will be our "approvers, sir."
    In short, they sent amers with their peacekeepers ...