Bondarev called the invasion of the Ukrainian drone attempt to draw Russia into the war

Violation by Ukrainian drone Russia's borders may be an attempt to drag Moscow into the war, Viktor Bondarev, chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Defense, did not rule out.

Russia is trying with all its might to draw into the hearth of the Ukrainian proxy war, make us one of the parties to the conflict

- cites the opinion of the parliamentarian his press service.

The head of the Defense Committee of the Chamber of Regions admitted that the purpose of UAV penetration into Russia was espionage.

Of course, perhaps, the purpose of penetrating Russian territory was indeed espionage. This version, lying on the surface, is now being actively developed, since the high speed of the aircraft makes it possible to conclude that the plans of the Ukrainian side did not include our early detection. On the other hand, the Russian radars with which our radars are equipped are known all over the world for their high sensitivity. Ukrainians could not understand that we will fix it. Therefore, it is likely that this drone is just a bait. Similar methods were widely used by Americans during the Cold War

- declared the senator

At the same time, Bondarev stressed that in these conditions it is important “not to flog a fever” and respond adequately to the provocations.

Earlier it was reported that the Ukrainian drone invaded the airspace of Russia. The incident occurred the night before in the Bryansk region. The drone flew at high speed and tried to cross the border unnoticed.

Recall, a few days ago, the head of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, Oleksandr Turchynov, said that Ukraine “should know what is happening in Kamchatka” and intends to master the production of “strategic drones”.



Comments

[Alexander War]

. The drone flew at high speed and tried to cross the border undetected. high speed 120-130 km / h

[Teberii]

If Turchinov wants to know what is happening in Kamchatka, you can arrange a tour, some 10 years.

[Alexander 3]

Lifetime logging tour in a padded jacket with a number.

[PalBor]

Quote: Teberii

If Turchinov wants to know what is happening in Kamchatka, you can arrange a tour, some 10 years.

Right now! Less than 20 won't do.

[evil partisan]

Quote: Teberii

arrange a tour, some 10 years.

Quote: PalBor

Less than 20 will not do.

Good to add! 10 min. in the basements of the Lubyanka - quite enough ...

[Warrior with machine gun]

I didn’t understand one thing, he was shot down or not, what difference does it make at what speed he flew and for what purposes, if he is in the air. space of the Russian Federation, then place it in the form of scrap on the ground

[Alekseits]

It seems they shot down, at least on RIA Novosti there was a message that:
=== In turn, in Kiev, they commented on reports of a downed drone. ===
https://ria.ru/politics/20171113/1508697777.html

[Alexander War]

They shot down let them show, there was a video where they flew on Dzhankoy and the Shell didn’t even shoot!

[Logall]

Quote: Alexander War

The carapace didn’t even shoot!

For a shell, this is too small a target! It is only microwave radiation that a small drone can bring down. At a very close distance ...

[Lelek]

Quote: Logall

It is only microwave radiation that a small drone can bring down.

Hey. Half a year ago there was a note that our eggheads created a system to destroy mini and max-drones at almost any height and at any speed, burning their control circuits. And where are these congenial drone defenders?

[Svarog51]

Lion welcome Shhh! Maybe they didn’t hear about

our eggheads have created a system to destroy mini and maxi-drones at almost any height and at any speed, burning their control chips

Let them launch it, otherwise they will forget something else.

[Alexander War]

https://topwar.ru/123393-itogi-boevogo-primeneniy
a-zrpk-pancir-sv-sirii.html There was an article with us

[Alexander War]

We shoot down in Syria, but do we regret it at home?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Alexander War

there was a video where they flew on Dzhankoy and the Shell didn’t even shoot!

what kind of case is this ????

[79807420129]

that Ukraine "must know what is happening in Kamchatka"

You will know, you will definitely be in a striped robe and with a number on his chest.

intends to master the release of "strategic drones."

While the Chinese are buying, but these drones have mastered here.

[enmesher]

Cossack duck!

[Alex20042004]

And, I like this ukrobilotnik more:

[Alex20042004]

Or this one is my favorite:

[PalBor]

Nope, as if regretted, although strange

[Baloo]

Quote: Warrior with machine gun

I didn’t understand one thing, he was shot down or not, what difference does it make at what speed he flew and for what purposes, if he is in the air. space of the Russian Federation, then place it in the form of scrap on the ground

On a neighboring branch, a more detailed article was not reported. The main conclusion from the incident, where is the guarantee that such a dromodan cannot be used to collide with a civilian or military vessel, or other illegal actions in a hybrid war against Russia, into which the Washington Regional Committee is dragging Ukraine?
They are made of composite materials, which reduces their visibility. I hope that conclusions are made, measures will be taken. Is it enough that can be thrown across the border by such pepilats, and at least locusts or some other insects?

[demo]

Campaign flyers, tell me more!
Winter is on the nose. What locust? What kind of insects?

[Baloo]

Quote: demo

Campaign flyers, tell me more!
Winter is on the nose. What locust? What kind of insects?

Winter will come, followed by spring, summer .... And there are also ticks that carry encephalitis.
And how many locusts are needed, it multiplies instantly and after it is bare land.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Balu

Is it enough that can be thrown across the border by such pepilats, and at least locusts or some other insects?

and if she jumps back to Hohland, ???

[Xnumx vis]

An article in Truth - Drone shot down. There is a quote !!! ---- "I’m not inclined to see the State Department’s hand in all the actions of third countries. But this option, if it is a matter for states dependent on the USA, cannot be ruled out," Bondarev emphasized, adding that such steps must be adequately addressed and by no means flog a fever. "

In turn, in Kiev commented on the messages [b] about a downed drone.[i] [/ i] [/ b] According to the speaker of the special operations headquarters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Vasily Labay, "the Ukrainian army does not use drones in the Donbass."

Recall, last night, a Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicle violated the border of Russia's airspace in the Bryansk region. The drone was automatically detected by radar equipment, which gave the corresponding signal. Apparently, the device tried to cross the border unnoticed and moved at a speed of 130 kilometers per hour.


Read more at https://www.pravda.ru/news/accidents/13-11-2017/1
353027-drone-0 /

[Baloo]

Quote: 30 vis

Article in Truth --Dron shot down

Accepted, thanks

[Reserve officer]

The article has more fog than information. And the title of the article "Bondarev called the invasion of the Ukrainian drone by an attempt to drag Russia into the war" is generally a masterpiece. Well, the Polish or Ukrainian Minister of Defense would have soaked this, they’ve got used to the pearls there. But our chairman of the Federation Council Defense Committee? Shoot down a drone flown to us - is it a war? Yeah...

[Barshchik-M]

Earlier it was reported that the Ukrainian drone invaded the airspace of Russia

Well, flew and flew ... Or did they hope that we, like Israel, would start firing at it from the S-300,400 and the "Shell"? We have nothing to hide, we are "brothers" ..

[stas]

This article substitutes the general. There are a lot of such cases that would seriously discuss this, and there will be more.
Now such children's toys in bulk.

[210ox]

And by the way, he himself did not substitute with answers about high speed and all that ..

Quote: stas

This article substitutes the general. There are a lot of such cases that would seriously discuss this, and there will be more.
Now such children's toys in bulk.

[ser65]

already tired at this "high" speed ... all editions of the news were reprinted with a carbon copy.

[Muvka]

Quote: ser65

already tired at this "high" speed ... all editions of the news were reprinted with a carbon copy.

But what, they had to add something of their own to the news? I can’t understand what you want from the quote?

[demo]

And what? This is an idea.
They would write that he changed his height, maneuvered, conducted agitation and propaganda.
And who will check? Shot down.

[Cossack 471]

The drone could perform a military hopak in the air. and this is serious

[ser65]

130 km .... is it high speed? stupid people among us ....

[Lavrenti Pavlovich]

Judging by the message, we overslept or waited for the team from above, without taking responsibility. In fact, any object illegally crossing the state border is subject to destruction. Why then air defense?

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich

Judging by the message, we overslept or waited for a command from above, without taking responsibility

And let's wait, when the ukro-drone appears over the Kremlin? Then we will fail!
Although with Rust on Red Square, this already happened ...
Directly some bad associations with the late Gorbachev Soviet Union beg.

[Lavrenti Pavlovich]

Quote: Ami du peuple

Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich

Judging by the message, we overslept or waited for a command from above, without taking responsibility

And let's wait, when the ukro-drone appears over the Kremlin? Then we will fail!
Although with Rust on Red Square, this already happened ...
Directly some bad associations with the late Gorbachev Soviet Union beg.

I mean exactly that. And according to Bondarev about pulling into a war, let him take it higher - they want to drag him into a galactic war, well, at least in the third world war. As a person in such a position can carry such nonsense, instead of securing the borders of the homeland. Or Bondarev forgot that the army is kept on the taxes of the Russians, which he is obliged to defend with a sword in his hand, all statements must be made by politicians.

[Baloo]

Quote: Ami du peuple

Although with Rust on Red Square, this already happened ...

Invalid. Rust had an intermediate refueling near Roza. He was led from our side.

[Partyzan]

Quote: Alexander War

high speed 120-130 km / h

for reconnaissance flight - high, but for penetration at low altitude just right

[Elena Zakharova]

Quote: Alexander War

. The drone flew at high speed and tried to cross the border undetected. high speed 120-130 km / h

You do not understand anything!
This is a huge achievement ukroboronprom!
The quieter you go, the further you'll get!

[Alexander War]

Achievement that they have quasi drone drone, ala jihad drone, copter

[Svarog51]

The quieter you go, the further you'll get!

From the place where you are going.

[Xnumx vis]

And that the drone was shot down, planted, where is the subject of border violation ??? He flew and released, and also gave a chocolate bar so what? An alien aircraft crossed the border of Russia. Land and introduce to the public of the world! What is the problem ?

[Dembel77]

The head of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov stated that Ukraine “must know what is happening in Kamchatka” and intends to master the production of “strategic drones”.

It seems to have already mastered? This one, who was returning home in an article from Kamchatka? Gosha...

[Slovak]

It was necessary to send Turchinov to Kiev unmanned Yars

[Settlement Oparyshev]

They are interested in frequencies and air defense teams. I hope ours did not miss in this situation.

[Pirogov]

At the same time, Bondarev emphasized that in these conditions it is important "not to spoil the fever" and to adequately respond to provocations ............................... ........
.................................................
.................................................
............... Somewhere my grandfathers have already heard this ..............

[Partyzan]

Quote: Pirogov

Somewhere my grandfathers have already heard this

but slightly different wording of "deep concern"

[Pirogov]

Quote: Partyzan

but slightly different wording of "deep concern"

Yes it doesn’t matter! But what’s important is not to succumb to provocations ....)

[Partyzan]

Quote: Pirogov

But what’s important is not to succumb to provocations ....)

mean 1941?

[sabakina]

Bean, , if you are about the 41st, it was: "Show restraint and do not succumb to provocations."

[Partyzan]

so I don’t understand something, where did the grandfathers hear this?

[sabakina]

Bob, on your western border and in the Far East. The film, "Order: Do not remember to open fire"?

[Partyzan]

I remember however - already gray-haired

[sabakina]

By the way, Bob, a 27 km “fly” figure flashed in the news feed.

[Partyzan]

Quote: sabakina

By the way, Bob, a 27 km “fly” figure flashed in the news feed.

they say gps navigator was not working, or more likely - Russian hackers took control

[Pirogov]

Quote: Partyzan

so I don’t understand something, where did the grandfathers hear this?

Oh and Partizan.

[Partyzan]

Quote: Pirogov

Oh and Partizan.

Well, as it so

[ydjin]

Quote: Pirogov

At the same time, Bondarev emphasized that in these conditions it is important "not to spoil the fever" and to adequately respond to provocations ............................... ........
.................................................
.................................................
............... Somewhere my grandfathers have already heard this ..............

Dear forum users, what a universal howl on the forum has begun, but la-is it all gone? We read the news, the radar automatically detected UAVs, the adversary was shot down! And then all the polymers ...

[Gml]

Ukraine? War? To Russia? I do not believe.

[panov_panov]

In this regard, it’s good to learn from the Jews, they never break a fever but simply bring down!))

[Lopatov]

Quote: panov_panov

In this regard, it’s good to learn from the Jews, they never break a fever but simply bring down!))

Our country is large, focal air defense. The only ones in the post-Soviet are trying to keep the whole thing, Belarusians ..

[Dave36]

But what was there to bring down? Maybe there is simply no shell ... the border is huge (

[panov_panov]

In this direction, detection stations and air defense systems in abundance))

[ochakow703]

So they shot him down, or just wrote a note of protest and condemnation?

[Herculesic]

Most likely, with a note and shot down with a scraping key, to be more precise. ..

[ochakow703]

Cool, I heard a lot, but never saw this "weapon" in action. Usually they will have a runny nose and refer to the fact that “the partners don’t hear us,” and the partners have piled all our notes with inch thread on their notes for a long time and are creating a mess around the world. As there, grandfather Lenin said a hundred years ago - "To bring down, and only to bring down ..."

[Tersky]

Quote: ochakow703

So they shot him down, or just wrote a note of protest and condemnation?

Aha , and also threatened with a "mirror response"

[ochakow703]

In the sense? Did they read a note of protest to themselves in front of a mirror? Well, this is generally a new laser weapon.

[Sergei75]

Shnyaga, I don’t think that the drone wanted to provoke a war. For this, it was enough to carry out an artillery attack on the settlement of Russia and then the question.
He conducted reconnaissance, but accidentally flew into the territory - he got lost or missed.

[Kurare]

Quote: Sergei75

Shnyaga, I don’t think that the drone wanted to provoke a war.

Of course, they won’t be able to provoke a war by such a trick, but it’s easy to announce another “peer-emog” over the “aggressor”. And they are not capable of anything else.

[Vadim237]

For this, it was enough to carry out an artillery attack on the settlement of Russia - In the summer of 2014, this already happened, my grandfather was killed in the courtyard of his own house and two soldiers died.

[Baloo]

Sergei75 Shnyaga, I don’t think that the drone wanted to provoke a war
the same goal as the Korean Boeing in Kamchatka, the identification of air defense systems. In Kamchatka, nearby and the satellite was spinning and Avax. And here? Probably some kind of ground-based means.

[Shuttle]

Bondarev called the invasion of the Ukrainian drone attempt to draw Russia into the war

Yes, the whole essence of Ukraine Maidan 2.0 is a direct and obvious attempt to draw Russia into the war.

[Wolka]

it was necessary to drop it using the means of electronic warfare, in our territory, and with all the ensuing consequences ...

[pvv113]

it is important not to spoil the fever and to adequately respond to provocations

I understand that the drone went unpunished

[Partyzan]

Quote: pvv113

I understand that the drone went unpunished

as I understood, only for some reason they did not express "deep concern"

[pvv113]

Let's start expressing concern, but responding adequately to the provocation

[Partyzan]

Quote: pvv113

Let's start expressing concern, but responding adequately to the provocation

a wise decision you will run - only droop - the forum floor will vote for you

[pvv113]

Quote: Partyzan

you will run

Thank you for your trust, but bOLOI’m not going to party - since childhood I’m afraid of swamp

[Partyzan]

Quote: pvv113

Thank you for your trust, but I will not dare to bolt - I'm afraid of childhood

or maybe hold elections on this principle

[pvv113]

And so much more effective!

[BARKHAN]

Quote: Partyzan

a wise decision you will run for - just hang down - the forum floor will vote for you

Or maybe it's Putin? PVV-PVV-Putin Vl.Vl. !!!

[pvv113]

Thank you They got me already at work!

[BARKHAN]

Quote: pvv113

They got me already at work!

In the Kremlin?

[Partyzan]

not - certainly not him, but wish it were - so simple to communicate

[ochakow703]

Naturally ... we have the coolest air defense and electronic warfare, but this is a SECRET. You can not use it, otherwise the frequency adder will know. Shhhhhhh ...

[pvv113]

Quote: ochakow703

otherwise the frequency adder will know

Sometimes such thoughts slip through that - shhhhhhh!

[Baloo]

Quote: pvv113

it is important not to spoil the fever and to adequately respond to provocations

I understand that the drone went unpunished

Collapsed, fuel wasted

[pvv113]

On the Internet I found only information about the violation and the phrase "further fate is unknown"

[Grim Reaper]

Quote: Balu

Quote: pvv113

it is important not to spoil the fever and to adequately respond to provocations

I understand that the drone went unpunished

Collapsed, fuel wasted

but our two crazy brothers .....

[Herculesic]

I understand that they didn’t bring him down? If so, then all the words of politicians are now simply meaningless and useless idleness! Ukrointsy understand only actions, from our words they just laugh, and will harm even more and more!

[ochakow703]

Right. Impunity breeds lawlessness.

[panov_panov]

Quote: Spade

Quote: panov_panov

In this regard, it’s good to learn from the Jews, they never break a fever but simply bring down!))

Our country is large, focal air defense. The only ones in the post-Soviet are trying to keep the whole thing, Belarusians ..

I will repeat in this direction both detection systems and air defense systems are enough) The main thing is that the leadership had the will and the decision-making initiative of the calculation commanders!))

[Dave36]

Then sad

[Lopatov]

Quote: panov_panov

I will repeat in this direction both detection systems and air defense systems are enough)

“On the way” may be enough. "Direction" is a loose concept.
But what about the fact that 100% overlapping state. even in the west of the country there are no border defense systems and there was no reinforced concrete fact.

[serega61]

"SOMETHING a fever" is not worth it, it will wipe itself and express the 156th concern.

[foreman]

this is what has been happening in our country lately, given one cheek we substitute the other

[gorgo]

I think it was DJI Phantom 3, put in the army by volunteers. They sometimes get lost in a program when they lose contact with the remote control, and they fly off "home" on autopilot. To China, that is ...

[ded100]

A strategic drone in an independent one is nonsense to a poor pastor, and in Kamchatka he can work in a robe, which I wish him!

[HEATHER]

Ukraine "must know what is happening in Kamchatka" Or on the Moon. And Mars has nothing to do with it.

[Ivan Ivanov]

A drone of a hostile state flew in, it just had to be shot down. Or shoot down a drone = get involved in a war? Mathias Rust Syndrome?
"Alexander Turchinov said that Kiev will receive information about what is happening on the territory of Russia with the help of drones" (c) what is there to talk about?
Hedgehog it is clear that flying and flying back drones is at least a disruption of the image

[BARKHAN]

Quote: IvanIvanov

A drone of a hostile state flew in, it just had to be shot down. Or shoot down a drone = get involved in a war? Mathias Rust Syndrome?
"Alexander Turchinov said that Kiev will receive information about what is happening on the territory of Russia with the help of drones" (c) what is there to talk about?
Hedgehog it is clear that flying and flying back drones is at least a disruption of the image

I agree with you. And I don’t understand what is incomprehensible here. And what are the possible reasons for our inaction? 1. Inability. 2. Impossibility. 3. Betrayal. 4. Stupidity. 5. Some
competence. 6. Tricky plan.

[ochakow703]

7. All options are correct.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Yes, it’s not clear. It seems to me that the statement of a high-ranking military officer should contain three parts 1. statement of fact 2. assessment 3. warning of the consequences in case of repetition.

[Ivan Ivanov]

It seems they shot down, and rightly so.

[midshipman]

Dear Viktor Nikolayevich, you must remember how under the direction of Aviation Marshal E.Ya. Savitsky in the early 80s was stopped for 4 years attempt to violate the borders of the USSR in the Far East by US reconnaissance aircraft. To do this, Marshal needed only 4 MiG-31P.
I was a member of this operation. I have the honor.

[NN52]

midshipman.
You are a very respected person and professional.
But it was this one, who is now in the Federation Council, the attack aircraft, who destroyed 31, almost ...
He only has a political statement and left to do ....

[HEATHER]

C'mon. Well, he flew in. WHERE IS OUR AIR DEFENSE? Are they all fucked up? Skip the enemy drones! Nonsense! Ofigel guys?

[Svarog51]

Dimych, since there is an article on the VO about the drone, it means they nipped it. How else?

[foreman]

and why didn’t they hit once violated the border? something reminds 41st year

[Sergey53]

It recalls when Rust on Cessna sat on Red Square.

[Makarov]

yeah ... you miss them all the way to Red Square, or else a provocation ... or better yet, give an official pass so that no one suspects you of anything ... God forbid ...

He violated the border - it was supposed to bring down ... they didn’t bring down - to find the guilty and punish ... but with the ability to cover his ass like that and everything .... well, you understand ...

[Sergey53]

Well, what is there to slumber. They shot down their contents, the country's affiliation, what function they carried and forgot. I’m wondering how to understand the words "he flew at high speed and therefore he was not immediately found." What a heresy. And if even greater speed, then what are we, then completely helpless?

[Igor Pushkino]

I don’t understand one thing ?: how many snot will we chew? How much will we play by the rules? Shoot down right there. Che all reinsured? Few diplomatic missions threw us + with the Olympians a ride with the Olympics? It is necessary to show: force. In Syria, it is clear. There may not be big flaws. In general, everything is fine. Didn't the guarantor say: hit first?

[Captain Nemo]

Not shot down, not planted. Now we are building versions. Hello, Matthias Rust?

[Vlad5307]

At the same time, Bondarev emphasized that in these conditions it is important “not to spoil the fever” and to adequately respond to provocations.

Well, if they found a violation of the border. then the intruder had to be shot down immediately, though if he didn’t go all the way. Otherwise, proto-Ukrainians would immediately accuse the Russian Federation of aggression!

[Cossack 471]

When Rust sat on Red Square, then in Severomorsk, the Moramen were insulting us "the troops of the air defense of the country named after Matthias Rust"

[Radical]

At the same time, Bondarev stressed that in these conditions it is important “not to flog a fever” and respond adequately to the provocations.

It’s difficult to attribute me to the supporters of this state, but I like the adequacy of Israel in “such conditions”!

[The leader of the Redskins]

I do not believe! Here, at VO they have said more than once that they can’t do anything in Ukraine, but what they got from partners abroad, it’s about ... it! So it seemed to Mr. Bondarev!

[TsUS-Air Force]

I recall the 41st year. Germans reached Moscow because we did not succumb to provocations! NATO drone drone will come to us from Ukraine, bombed in the Rostov and Voronezh regions, and we will not succumb to provocations!

[pvv113]

Quote: pvv113

On the Internet I found only information about the violation and the phrase "further fate is unknown"

Found all the same: the drone was neutralized

“The drone is neutralized,” a source at the military department told Politonline.ru. However, a senior officer refused to explain whether it was about destroying the drone or forcing it to land by intercepting control

http://www.politonline.ru/interpretation/22891935
.html

[tolmachiev51]

The USSR shot down passenger planes for such things! and where are the provocations? silently destroyed all the problems

[Nemesis]

Any foreign military equipment and foreign soldiers who violated the border of Russia need to be destroyed ... There is nothing worse than a cowardly commander ... We already had cowards and through their fault we received June 22, 1941 ...

[Baloo]

Quote: Nemesis

There is nothing worse than a cowardly commander ...

That is how

[Sars]

In our government, the epidemic is "not to succumb to provocations"! We have already begun to crap on our heads, but we are persistent, do not succumb.

[Seraphimamur]

Stalin, too, did not succumb to provocations until the Wehrmacht troops approached Kiev.

[Seraphimamur]

What is the difference at what speed and at what altitude he flew. HIS BEATED OR NOT? Where is the photo of the wreckage? Or everything was preoccupied with concern over border violations, showing once again the toothlessness of Russia in relation to the fascist regime of the country 404.

[kartalovkolya]

Again, a solid 3,14 dazh, and where are the normal actions to protect the borders of Russia, which are "... sacred and inviolable ..."? Or "everything is allowed to horses with broken brains? Less talk, more work: knock down, that’s it! Actually, this article smacks of shit and someone is trying to distract our attention from something ....

[Stoler]

We spotted him but didn’t bring him down so that there WAS NOT WAR? CHO FOR Nonsense !!!!