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Bondarev called the invasion of the Ukrainian drone attempt to draw Russia into the war

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Violation by the Ukrainian drone of the Russian border may be an attempt to draw Moscow into the war, Viktor Bondarev, chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Defense, did not rule out.


Russia is trying with all its might to draw into the hearth of the Ukrainian proxy war, make us one of the parties to the conflict
- cites the opinion of the parliamentarian his press service.

Bondarev called the invasion of the Ukrainian drone attempt to draw Russia into the war


The head of the Defense Committee of the Chamber of Regions admitted that the purpose of UAV penetration into Russia was espionage.

Of course, perhaps, the purpose of penetrating Russian territory was indeed espionage. This version, lying on the surface, is now being actively developed, since the high speed of the aircraft makes it possible to conclude that the plans of the Ukrainian side did not include our early detection. On the other hand, the Russian radars with which our radars are equipped are known all over the world for their high sensitivity. Ukrainians could not understand that we will fix it. Therefore, it is likely that this drone is just a bait. Similar methods were widely used by Americans during the Cold War
- declared the senator

At the same time, Bondarev stressed that in these conditions it is important “not to flog a fever” and respond adequately to the provocations.

Earlier it was reported that the Ukrainian drone invaded the airspace of Russia. The incident occurred the night before in the Bryansk region. The drone flew at high speed and tried to cross the border unnoticed.

Recall, a few days ago, the head of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, Oleksandr Turchynov, said that Ukraine “should know what is happening in Kamchatka” and intends to master the production of “strategic drones”.


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  1. Alexander War
    Alexander War 13 November 2017 17: 27 New
    16
    . The drone flew at high speed and tried to cross the border undetected. smile high speed 120-130 km / h
    1. Teberii
      Teberii 13 November 2017 17: 31 New
      18
      If Turchinov wants to know what is happening in Kamchatka, you can arrange a tour, some 10 years.
      1. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 13 November 2017 17: 35 New
        16
        Lifetime logging tour in a padded jacket with a number.
      2. PalBor
        PalBor 13 November 2017 18: 07 New
        +8
        Quote: Teberii
        If Turchinov wants to know what is happening in Kamchatka, you can arrange a tour, some 10 years.

        Right now! Less than 20 won't do.
        1. evil partisan
          evil partisan 13 November 2017 21: 04 New
          +3
          Quote: Teberii
          arrange a tour, some 10 years.
          Quote: PalBor
          Less than 20 will not do.

          Good to add! stop 10 min. in the basements of the Lubyanka - quite enough ... repeat
    2. Warrior with machine gun
      Warrior with machine gun 13 November 2017 17: 34 New
      63
      I didn’t understand one thing, he was shot down or not, what difference does it make at what speed he flew and for what purposes, if he is in the air. space of the Russian Federation, then place it in the form of scrap on the ground request
      1. Alekseits
        Alekseits 13 November 2017 17: 47 New
        +7
        It seems they shot down, at least on RIA Novosti there was a message that:
        === In turn, in Kiev, they commented on reports of a downed drone. ===
        https://ria.ru/politics/20171113/1508697777.html
        1. Alexander War
          Alexander War 13 November 2017 17: 49 New
          +7
          They shot down let them show, there was a video where they flew on Dzhankoy and the Shell didn’t even shoot!
          1. Logall
            Logall 13 November 2017 18: 01 New
            11
            Quote: Alexander War
            The carapace didn’t even shoot!

            For a shell, this is too small a target! It is only microwave radiation that a small drone can bring down. At a very close distance ...
            1. Lelek
              Lelek 13 November 2017 19: 42 New
              +4
              Quote: Logall
              It is only microwave radiation that a small drone can bring down.


              Hey. Half a year ago there was a note that our eggheads created a system to destroy mini and max-drones at almost any height and at any speed, burning their control circuits. And where are these congenial drone defenders?
              1. Svarog51
                Svarog51 13 November 2017 20: 27 New
                +5
                Lion welcome hi Shhh! Maybe they didn’t hear about
                our eggheads have created a system to destroy mini and maxi-drones at almost any height and at any speed, burning their control chips

                Let them launch it, otherwise they will forget something else. wink
            2. Alexander War
              Alexander War 13 November 2017 20: 03 New
              +3
              https://topwar.ru/123393-itogi-boevogo-primeneniy
              a-zrpk-pancir-sv-sirii.html There was an article with us
              1. Alexander War
                Alexander War 13 November 2017 20: 06 New
                +3
                We shoot down in Syria, but do we regret it at home?
          2. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 13 November 2017 22: 47 New
            +4
            Quote: Alexander War
            there was a video where they flew on Dzhankoy and the Shell didn’t even shoot!

            what kind of case is this ???? what what what
        2. 79807420129
          79807420129 13 November 2017 18: 20 New
          +9
          that Ukraine "must know what is happening in Kamchatka"

          You will know, you will definitely be in a striped robe and with a number on his chest. laughing
          intends to master the release of "strategic drones."

          While the Chinese are buying, but these drones have mastered here. laughing
          1. enmesher
            enmesher 13 November 2017 18: 29 New
            +2
            Cossack duck!
          2. Alex20042004
            Alex20042004 13 November 2017 18: 51 New
            13
            And, I like this ukrobilotnik more:
            1. Alex20042004
              Alex20042004 13 November 2017 18: 56 New
              10
              Or this one is my favorite:
      2. PalBor
        PalBor 13 November 2017 18: 11 New
        +2
        Nope, as if regretted, although strange request
      3. Baloo
        Baloo 13 November 2017 19: 51 New
        +4
        Quote: Warrior with machine gun
        I didn’t understand one thing, he was shot down or not, what difference does it make at what speed he flew and for what purposes, if he is in the air. space of the Russian Federation, then place it in the form of scrap on the ground

        On a neighboring branch, a more detailed article was not reported. The main conclusion from the incident, where is the guarantee that such a dromodan cannot be used to collide with a civilian or military vessel, or other illegal actions in a hybrid war against Russia, into which the Washington Regional Committee is dragging Ukraine?
        They are made of composite materials, which reduces their visibility. I hope that conclusions are made, measures will be taken. Is it enough that can be thrown across the border by such pepilats, and at least locusts or some other insects?
        1. demo
          demo 13 November 2017 21: 04 New
          +1
          Campaign flyers, tell me more!
          Winter is on the nose. What locust? What kind of insects?
          1. Baloo
            Baloo 13 November 2017 21: 09 New
            +2
            Quote: demo
            Campaign flyers, tell me more!
            Winter is on the nose. What locust? What kind of insects?

            Winter will come, followed by spring, summer .... And there are also ticks that carry encephalitis.
            And how many locusts are needed, it multiplies instantly and after it is bare land.
        2. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 13 November 2017 22: 49 New
          +3
          Quote: Balu
          Is it enough that can be thrown across the border by such pepilats, and at least locusts or some other insects?

          what what and if she jumps back to Hohland, ??? laughing laughing
      4. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 13 November 2017 20: 12 New
        +3
        An article in Truth - Drone shot down. There is a quote !!! ---- "I’m not inclined to see the State Department’s hand in all the actions of third countries. But this option, if it is a matter for states dependent on the USA, cannot be ruled out," Bondarev emphasized, adding that such steps must be adequately addressed and by no means flog a fever. "

        In turn, in Kiev commented on the messages [b] about a downed drone.[i] [/ i] [/ b] According to the speaker of the special operations headquarters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Vasily Labay, "the Ukrainian army does not use drones in the Donbass."

        Recall, last night, a Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicle violated the border of Russia's airspace in the Bryansk region. The drone was automatically detected by radar equipment, which gave the corresponding signal. Apparently, the device tried to cross the border unnoticed and moved at a speed of 130 kilometers per hour.


        Read more at https://www.pravda.ru/news/accidents/13-11-2017/1
        353027-drone-0 /
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 13 November 2017 20: 16 New
          +2
          Quote: 30 vis
          Article in Truth --Dron shot down

          Accepted, thanks drinks
      5. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 13 November 2017 21: 34 New
        +6
        The article has more fog than information. And the title of the article "Bondarev called the invasion of the Ukrainian drone by an attempt to drag Russia into the war" is generally a masterpiece. Well, the Polish or Ukrainian Minister of Defense would have soaked this, they’ve got used to the pearls there. But our chairman of the Federation Council Defense Committee? Shoot down a drone flown to us - is it a war? Yeah...
    3. Barshchik-M
      Barshchik-M 13 November 2017 17: 50 New
      +5
      Earlier it was reported that the Ukrainian drone invaded the airspace of Russia

      Well, flew and flew ... Or did they hope that we, like Israel, would start firing at it from the S-300,400 and the "Shell"? We have nothing to hide, we are "brothers" .. laughing
    4. stas
      stas 13 November 2017 18: 04 New
      +4
      This article substitutes the general. There are a lot of such cases that would seriously discuss this, and there will be more.
      Now such children's toys in bulk.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 13 November 2017 18: 46 New
        +2
        And by the way, he himself did not substitute with answers about high speed and all that ..
        Quote: stas
        This article substitutes the general. There are a lot of such cases that would seriously discuss this, and there will be more.
        Now such children's toys in bulk.
    5. ser65
      ser65 13 November 2017 18: 09 New
      +2
      already tired at this "high" speed ... all editions of the news were reprinted with a carbon copy.
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 13 November 2017 18: 32 New
        +3
        Quote: ser65
        already tired at this "high" speed ... all editions of the news were reprinted with a carbon copy.

        But what, they had to add something of their own to the news? I can’t understand what you want from the quote?
        1. demo
          demo 13 November 2017 21: 06 New
          +3
          And what? This is an idea.
          They would write that he changed his height, maneuvered, conducted agitation and propaganda.
          And who will check? Shot down.
          1. Cossack 471
            Cossack 471 13 November 2017 21: 47 New
            +2
            The drone could perform a military hopak in the air. and this is serious
        2. ser65
          ser65 14 November 2017 07: 20 New
          0
          130 km .... is it high speed? stupid people among us ....
    6. Lavrenti Pavlovich
      Lavrenti Pavlovich 13 November 2017 18: 12 New
      10
      Judging by the message, we overslept or waited for the team from above, without taking responsibility. In fact, any object illegally crossing the state border is subject to destruction. Why then air defense?
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 13 November 2017 18: 30 New
        +8
        Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
        Judging by the message, we overslept or waited for a command from above, without taking responsibility

        And let's wait, when the ukro-drone appears over the Kremlin? Then we will fail!
        Although with Rust on Red Square, this already happened ...
        Directly some bad associations with the late Gorbachev Soviet Union beg.
        1. Lavrenti Pavlovich
          Lavrenti Pavlovich 13 November 2017 19: 50 New
          +4
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
          Judging by the message, we overslept or waited for a command from above, without taking responsibility

          And let's wait, when the ukro-drone appears over the Kremlin? Then we will fail!
          Although with Rust on Red Square, this already happened ...
          Directly some bad associations with the late Gorbachev Soviet Union beg.

          I mean exactly that. And according to Bondarev about pulling into a war, let him take it higher - they want to drag him into a galactic war, well, at least in the third world war. As a person in such a position can carry such nonsense, instead of securing the borders of the homeland. Or Bondarev forgot that the army is kept on the taxes of the Russians, which he is obliged to defend with a sword in his hand, all statements must be made by politicians.
        2. Baloo
          Baloo 13 November 2017 19: 53 New
          +2
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Although with Rust on Red Square, this already happened ...

          Invalid. Rust had an intermediate refueling near Roza. He was led from our side.
    7. Partyzan
      Partyzan 13 November 2017 18: 17 New
      +9
      Quote: Alexander War
      high speed 120-130 km / h

      for reconnaissance flight - high, but for penetration at low altitude just right
    8. Elena Zakharova
      Elena Zakharova 13 November 2017 18: 20 New
      +5
      Quote: Alexander War
      . The drone flew at high speed and tried to cross the border undetected. smile high speed 120-130 km / h

      You do not understand anything!
      This is a huge achievement ukroboronprom!
      The quieter you go, the further you'll get!
      1. Alexander War
        Alexander War 13 November 2017 20: 09 New
        +4
        Achievement that they have quasi drone drone, ala jihad drone, copter
      2. Svarog51
        Svarog51 13 November 2017 20: 41 New
        +4
        The quieter you go, the further you'll get!

        From the place where you are going. wink
    9. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 13 November 2017 18: 29 New
      +1
      And that the drone was shot down, planted, where is the subject of border violation ??? He flew and released, and also gave a chocolate bar so what? An alien aircraft crossed the border of Russia. Land and introduce to the public of the world! What is the problem ?
      1. Dembel77
        Dembel77 13 November 2017 19: 38 New
        +1
        The head of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov stated that Ukraine “must know what is happening in Kamchatka” and intends to master the production of “strategic drones”.
        It seems to have already mastered? This one, who was returning home in an article from Kamchatka? Gosha...
    10. Slovak
      Slovak 13 November 2017 20: 43 New
      +1
      It was necessary to send Turchinov to Kiev unmanned Yars
  2. Settlement Oparyshev
    Settlement Oparyshev 13 November 2017 17: 27 New
    +4
    They are interested in frequencies and air defense teams. I hope ours did not miss in this situation.
  3. Pirogov
    Pirogov 13 November 2017 17: 28 New
    26
    At the same time, Bondarev emphasized that in these conditions it is important "not to spoil the fever" and to adequately respond to provocations ............................... ........
    .................................................
    .................................................
    ............... Somewhere my grandfathers have already heard this ..............
    1. Partyzan
      Partyzan 13 November 2017 18: 20 New
      +6
      Quote: Pirogov
      Somewhere my grandfathers have already heard this

      but slightly different wording of "deep concern" laughing
      1. Pirogov
        Pirogov 13 November 2017 18: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: Partyzan
        but slightly different wording of "deep concern"

        Yes it doesn’t matter! But what’s important is not to succumb to provocations ....)
        1. Partyzan
          Partyzan 13 November 2017 18: 30 New
          +4
          Quote: Pirogov
          But what’s important is not to succumb to provocations ....)

          mean 1941?
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 13 November 2017 18: 37 New
        +5
        Bean, hi , if you are about the 41st, it was: "Show restraint and do not succumb to provocations."
        1. Partyzan
          Partyzan 13 November 2017 18: 42 New
          +6
          so I don’t understand something, where did the grandfathers hear this? request
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 13 November 2017 18: 53 New
            +5
            Bob, on your western border and in the Far East. The film, "Order: Do not remember to open fire"?
            1. Partyzan
              Partyzan 13 November 2017 19: 14 New
              +5
              I remember however - already gray-haired request
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 13 November 2017 19: 20 New
                +5
                By the way, Bob, a 27 km “fly” figure flashed in the news feed.
                1. Partyzan
                  Partyzan 13 November 2017 19: 40 New
                  +6
                  Quote: sabakina
                  By the way, Bob, a 27 km “fly” figure flashed in the news feed.

                  they say gps navigator was not working, or more likely - Russian hackers took control laughing
          2. Pirogov
            Pirogov 13 November 2017 20: 56 New
            +1
            Quote: Partyzan
            so I don’t understand something, where did the grandfathers hear this?

            Oh and Partizan.
            1. Partyzan
              Partyzan 13 November 2017 21: 16 New
              +9
              Quote: Pirogov
              Oh and Partizan.


              Well, as it so request
    2. ydjin
      ydjin 14 November 2017 02: 26 New
      0
      Quote: Pirogov
      At the same time, Bondarev emphasized that in these conditions it is important "not to spoil the fever" and to adequately respond to provocations ............................... ........
      .................................................
      .................................................
      ............... Somewhere my grandfathers have already heard this ..............

      Dear forum users, what a universal howl on the forum has begun, but la-is it all gone? We read the news, the radar automatically detected UAVs, the adversary was shot down! And then all the polymers ...
  4. Gml
    Gml 13 November 2017 17: 29 New
    +2
    Ukraine? War? To Russia? I do not believe.
  5. panov_panov
    panov_panov 13 November 2017 17: 32 New
    11
    In this regard, it’s good to learn from the Jews, they never break a fever but simply bring down!))
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 13 November 2017 17: 43 New
      +3
      Quote: panov_panov
      In this regard, it’s good to learn from the Jews, they never break a fever but simply bring down!))

      Our country is large, focal air defense. The only ones in the post-Soviet are trying to keep the whole thing, Belarusians ..
  6. Dave36
    Dave36 13 November 2017 17: 34 New
    0
    But what was there to bring down? Maybe there is simply no shell ... the border is huge (
    1. panov_panov
      panov_panov 13 November 2017 17: 37 New
      +3
      In this direction, detection stations and air defense systems in abundance))
  7. ochakow703
    ochakow703 13 November 2017 17: 39 New
    +3
    So they shot him down, or just wrote a note of protest and condemnation?
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 13 November 2017 17: 51 New
      +4
      Most likely, with a note and shot down with a scraping key, to be more precise. ..
      1. ochakow703
        ochakow703 13 November 2017 18: 03 New
        +4
        Cool, I heard a lot, but never saw this "weapon" in action. Usually they will have a runny nose and refer to the fact that “the partners don’t hear us,” and the partners have piled all our notes with inch thread on their notes for a long time and are creating a mess around the world. As there, grandfather Lenin said a hundred years ago - "To bring down, and only to bring down ..."
    2. Tersky
      Tersky 13 November 2017 20: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: ochakow703
      So they shot him down, or just wrote a note of protest and condemnation?

      Aha yes , and also threatened with a "mirror response" good
      1. ochakow703
        ochakow703 13 November 2017 22: 41 New
        +1
        In the sense? Did they read a note of protest to themselves in front of a mirror? Well, this is generally a new laser weapon.
  8. Sergei75
    Sergei75 13 November 2017 17: 41 New
    +2
    Shnyaga, I don’t think that the drone wanted to provoke a war. For this, it was enough to carry out an artillery attack on the settlement of Russia and then the question.
    He conducted reconnaissance, but accidentally flew into the territory - he got lost or missed.
    1. Kurare
      Kurare 13 November 2017 17: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: Sergei75
      Shnyaga, I don’t think that the drone wanted to provoke a war.

      Of course, they won’t be able to provoke a war by such a trick, but it’s easy to announce another “peer-emog” over the “aggressor”. And they are not capable of anything else.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 13 November 2017 18: 18 New
      +1
      For this, it was enough to carry out an artillery attack on the settlement of Russia - In the summer of 2014, this already happened, my grandfather was killed in the courtyard of his own house and two soldiers died.
    3. Baloo
      Baloo 13 November 2017 19: 57 New
      +1
      Sergei75 Shnyaga, I don’t think that the drone wanted to provoke a war
      the same goal as the Korean Boeing in Kamchatka, the identification of air defense systems. In Kamchatka, nearby and the satellite was spinning and Avax. And here? Probably some kind of ground-based means.
  9. Shuttle
    Shuttle 13 November 2017 17: 44 New
    +2
    Bondarev called the invasion of the Ukrainian drone attempt to draw Russia into the war

    Yes, the whole essence of Ukraine Maidan 2.0 is a direct and obvious attempt to draw Russia into the war.
  10. Wolka
    Wolka 13 November 2017 17: 44 New
    0
    it was necessary to drop it using the means of electronic warfare, in our territory, and with all the ensuing consequences ...
  11. pvv113
    pvv113 13 November 2017 17: 46 New
    +5
    it is important not to spoil the fever and to adequately respond to provocations

    I understand that the drone went unpunished
    1. Partyzan
      Partyzan 13 November 2017 18: 22 New
      +6
      Quote: pvv113
      I understand that the drone went unpunished

      as I understood, only for some reason they did not express "deep concern"
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 13 November 2017 18: 24 New
        +5
        Let's start expressing concern, but responding adequately to the provocation wassat
        1. Partyzan
          Partyzan 13 November 2017 18: 32 New
          +8
          Quote: pvv113
          Let's start expressing concern, but responding adequately to the provocation wassat

          a wise decision good you will run - only droop - the forum floor will vote for you good drinks
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 13 November 2017 18: 34 New
            +4
            Quote: Partyzan
            you will run

            Thank you for your trust, but bOLOI’m not going to party - since childhood I’m afraid of swamp wink
            1. Partyzan
              Partyzan 13 November 2017 18: 38 New
              11
              Quote: pvv113
              Thank you for your trust, but I will not dare to bolt - I'm afraid of childhood

              or maybe hold elections on this principle
              1. pvv113
                pvv113 13 November 2017 18: 43 New
                +4
                And so much more effective! good
          2. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 13 November 2017 19: 24 New
            +5
            Quote: Partyzan
            a wise decision you will run for - just hang down - the forum floor will vote for you

            Or maybe it's Putin? PVV-PVV-Putin Vl.Vl. !!!
            1. pvv113
              pvv113 13 November 2017 19: 48 New
              +2
              Thank you They got me already at work! laughing
              1. BARKHAN
                BARKHAN 14 November 2017 10: 13 New
                +3
                Quote: pvv113
                They got me already at work!

                In the Kremlin?
            2. Partyzan
              Partyzan 13 November 2017 21: 18 New
              +6
              not - certainly not him, but wish it were - so simple to communicate laughing
    2. ochakow703
      ochakow703 13 November 2017 19: 45 New
      +2
      Naturally ... we have the coolest air defense and electronic warfare, but this is a SECRET. You can not use it, otherwise the frequency adder will know. Shhhhhhh ...
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 13 November 2017 19: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: ochakow703
        otherwise the frequency adder will know

        Sometimes such thoughts slip through that - shhhhhhh! wink
    3. Baloo
      Baloo 13 November 2017 19: 58 New
      +3
      Quote: pvv113
      it is important not to spoil the fever and to adequately respond to provocations

      I understand that the drone went unpunished

      Collapsed, fuel wasted
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 13 November 2017 20: 09 New
        +1
        On the Internet I found only information about the violation and the phrase "further fate is unknown"
      2. Grim Reaper
        Grim Reaper 13 November 2017 20: 38 New
        +2
        Quote: Balu
        Quote: pvv113
        it is important not to spoil the fever and to adequately respond to provocations

        I understand that the drone went unpunished

        Collapsed, fuel wasted

        but our two crazy brothers ..... laughing laughing
  12. Herculesic
    Herculesic 13 November 2017 17: 46 New
    +7
    I understand that they didn’t bring him down? If so, then all the words of politicians are now simply meaningless and useless idleness! Ukrointsy understand only actions, from our words they just laugh, and will harm even more and more!
    1. ochakow703
      ochakow703 13 November 2017 19: 47 New
      +2
      Right. Impunity breeds lawlessness.
  13. panov_panov
    panov_panov 13 November 2017 17: 51 New
    +3
    Quote: Spade
    Quote: panov_panov
    In this regard, it’s good to learn from the Jews, they never break a fever but simply bring down!))

    Our country is large, focal air defense. The only ones in the post-Soviet are trying to keep the whole thing, Belarusians ..

    I will repeat in this direction both detection systems and air defense systems are enough) The main thing is that the leadership had the will and the decision-making initiative of the calculation commanders!))
    1. Dave36
      Dave36 13 November 2017 17: 58 New
      0
      Then sad
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 13 November 2017 18: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: panov_panov
      I will repeat in this direction both detection systems and air defense systems are enough)

      “On the way” may be enough. "Direction" is a loose concept.
      But what about the fact that 100% overlapping state. even in the west of the country there are no border defense systems and there was no reinforced concrete fact.
  14. serega61
    serega61 13 November 2017 18: 00 New
    +4
    "SOMETHING a fever" is not worth it, it will wipe itself and express the 156th concern.
    1. foreman
      foreman 13 November 2017 19: 05 New
      0
      this is what has been happening in our country lately, given one cheek we substitute the other
  15. gorgo
    gorgo 13 November 2017 18: 02 New
    +3
    I think it was DJI Phantom 3, put in the army by volunteers. They sometimes get lost in a program when they lose contact with the remote control, and they fly off "home" on autopilot. To China, that is ...
  16. ded100
    ded100 13 November 2017 18: 06 New
    +3
    A strategic drone in an independent one is nonsense to a poor pastor, and in Kamchatka he can work in a robe, which I wish him! wassat
  17. HEATHER
    HEATHER 13 November 2017 18: 24 New
    +1
    Ukraine "must know what is happening in Kamchatka" Or on the Moon. And Mars has nothing to do with it.
  18. Ivan Ivanov
    Ivan Ivanov 13 November 2017 18: 42 New
    +5
    A drone of a hostile state flew in, it just had to be shot down. Or shoot down a drone = get involved in a war? Mathias Rust Syndrome?
    "Alexander Turchinov said that Kiev will receive information about what is happening on the territory of Russia with the help of drones" (c) what is there to talk about?
    Hedgehog it is clear that flying and flying back drones is at least a disruption of the image
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 13 November 2017 19: 37 New
      +2
      Quote: IvanIvanov
      A drone of a hostile state flew in, it just had to be shot down. Or shoot down a drone = get involved in a war? Mathias Rust Syndrome?
      "Alexander Turchinov said that Kiev will receive information about what is happening on the territory of Russia with the help of drones" (c) what is there to talk about?
      Hedgehog it is clear that flying and flying back drones is at least a disruption of the image

      I agree with you. And I don’t understand what is incomprehensible here. And what are the possible reasons for our inaction? 1. Inability. 2. Impossibility. 3. Betrayal. 4. Stupidity. 5. Some
      competence. 6. Tricky plan.
      1. ochakow703
        ochakow703 13 November 2017 19: 50 New
        +2
        7. All options are correct.
      2. Ivan Ivanov
        Ivan Ivanov 13 November 2017 19: 59 New
        +1
        Yes, it’s not clear. It seems to me that the statement of a high-ranking military officer should contain three parts 1. statement of fact 2. assessment 3. warning of the consequences in case of repetition.
        1. Ivan Ivanov
          Ivan Ivanov 14 November 2017 08: 03 New
          0
          It seems they shot down, and rightly so.
  19. midshipman
    midshipman 13 November 2017 18: 59 New
    +7
    Dear Viktor Nikolayevich, you must remember how under the direction of Aviation Marshal E.Ya. Savitsky in the early 80s was stopped for 4 years attempt to violate the borders of the USSR in the Far East by US reconnaissance aircraft. To do this, Marshal needed only 4 MiG-31P.
    I was a member of this operation. I have the honor.
    1. NN52
      NN52 13 November 2017 20: 24 New
      +9
      midshipman.
      You are a very respected person and professional.
      But it was this one, who is now in the Federation Council, the attack aircraft, who destroyed 31, almost ...
      He only has a political statement and left to do ....
  20. HEATHER
    HEATHER 13 November 2017 19: 01 New
    +4
    C'mon. Well, he flew in. WHERE IS OUR AIR DEFENSE? Are they all fucked up? Skip the enemy drones! Nonsense! Ofigel guys?
    1. Svarog51
      Svarog51 13 November 2017 21: 08 New
      +5
      Dimych, since there is an article on the VO about the drone, it means they nipped it. How else?
  21. foreman
    foreman 13 November 2017 19: 03 New
    +1
    and why didn’t they hit once violated the border? something reminds 41st year
    1. Sergey53
      Sergey53 13 November 2017 19: 31 New
      +2
      It recalls when Rust on Cessna sat on Red Square.
  22. Makarov
    Makarov 13 November 2017 19: 26 New
    +4
    yeah ... you miss them all the way to Red Square, or else a provocation ... or better yet, give an official pass so that no one suspects you of anything ... God forbid ...

    He violated the border - it was supposed to bring down ... they didn’t bring down - to find the guilty and punish ... but with the ability to cover his ass like that and everything .... well, you understand ...
  23. Sergey53
    Sergey53 13 November 2017 19: 29 New
    +1
    Well, what is there to slumber. They shot down their contents, the country's affiliation, what function they carried and forgot. I’m wondering how to understand the words "he flew at high speed and therefore he was not immediately found." What a heresy. And if even greater speed, then what are we, then completely helpless?
    1. Igor Pushkino
      Igor Pushkino 13 November 2017 19: 43 New
      +1
      I don’t understand one thing ?: how many snot will we chew? How much will we play by the rules? Shoot down right there. Che all reinsured? Few diplomatic missions threw us + with the Olympians a ride with the Olympics? It is necessary to show: force. In Syria, it is clear. There may not be big flaws. In general, everything is fine. Didn't the guarantor say: hit first?
  24. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 13 November 2017 19: 53 New
    +2
    Not shot down, not planted. Now we are building versions. Hello, Matthias Rust?
  25. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 13 November 2017 21: 25 New
    +1
    At the same time, Bondarev emphasized that in these conditions it is important “not to spoil the fever” and to adequately respond to provocations.

    Well, if they found a violation of the border. then the intruder had to be shot down immediately, though if he didn’t go all the way. Otherwise, proto-Ukrainians would immediately accuse the Russian Federation of aggression! hi
    1. Cossack 471
      Cossack 471 13 November 2017 21: 57 New
      +1
      When Rust sat on Red Square, then in Severomorsk, the Moramen were insulting us "the troops of the air defense of the country named after Matthias Rust"
  26. Radikal
    Radikal 13 November 2017 21: 51 New
    +1
    At the same time, Bondarev stressed that in these conditions it is important “not to flog a fever” and respond adequately to the provocations.
    It’s difficult to attribute me to the supporters of this state, but I like the adequacy of Israel in “such conditions”! wassat
  27. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 13 November 2017 22: 01 New
    0
    I do not believe! Here, at VO they have said more than once that they can’t do anything in Ukraine, but what they got from partners abroad, it’s about ... it! So it seemed to Mr. Bondarev!
  28. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 13 November 2017 22: 23 New
    +2
    I recall the 41st year. Germans reached Moscow because we did not succumb to provocations! NATO drone drone will come to us from Ukraine, bombed in the Rostov and Voronezh regions, and we will not succumb to provocations!
  29. pvv113
    pvv113 13 November 2017 22: 25 New
    +1
    Quote: pvv113
    On the Internet I found only information about the violation and the phrase "further fate is unknown"

    Found all the same: the drone was neutralized
    “The drone is neutralized,” a source at the military department told Politonline.ru. However, a senior officer refused to explain whether it was about destroying the drone or forcing it to land by intercepting control

    http://www.politonline.ru/interpretation/22891935
    .html
  30. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 14 November 2017 05: 00 New
    +2
    The USSR shot down passenger planes for such things! and where are the provocations? silently destroyed all the problems
  31. Nemesis
    Nemesis 14 November 2017 05: 16 New
    +2
    Any foreign military equipment and foreign soldiers who violated the border of Russia need to be destroyed ... There is nothing worse than a cowardly commander ... We already had cowards and through their fault we received June 22, 1941 ...
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 14 November 2017 06: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: Nemesis
      There is nothing worse than a cowardly commander ...

      That is how drinks
  32. Sars
    Sars 14 November 2017 06: 34 New
    +1
    In our government, the epidemic is "not to succumb to provocations"! We have already begun to crap on our heads, but we are persistent, do not succumb.
    1. Seraphimamur
      Seraphimamur 14 November 2017 07: 38 New
      0
      Stalin, too, did not succumb to provocations until the Wehrmacht troops approached Kiev.
  33. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 14 November 2017 07: 37 New
    0
    What is the difference at what speed and at what altitude he flew. HIS BEATED OR NOT? Where is the photo of the wreckage? Or everything was preoccupied with concern over border violations, showing once again the toothlessness of Russia in relation to the fascist regime of the country 404.
  34. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 14 November 2017 08: 58 New
    0
    Again, a solid 3,14 dazh, and where are the normal actions to protect the borders of Russia, which are "... sacred and inviolable ..."? Or "everything is allowed to horses with broken brains? Less talk, more work: knock down, that’s it! Actually, this article smacks of shit and someone is trying to distract our attention from something ....
  35. Stoler
    Stoler 14 November 2017 19: 55 New
    0
    We spotted him but didn’t bring him down so that there WAS NOT WAR? CHO FOR Nonsense !!!!