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The cruiser "Peter the Great" is fighting to obtain the status of "shock"

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Press Service of the North fleet The Russian Navy is spreading the message that the flagship of the SF cruiser Peter the Great will compete for the status of “shock”. In total, the commission of the main defense department in the Northern Fleet alone will consider 15 applications from surface and submarine warships, including Peter the Great. In the same number - several units of the coastal forces of the fleet.


The cruiser "Peter the Great" is fighting to obtain the status of "shock"


From the message press service:
A permanent member of long-distance and arctic campaigns — the large anti-submarine ship Severomorsk, one of the best amphibious ships of the fleet — the big landing ship Kondopoga, the strategic submarine cruiser Karelia, a tactical group serving on the island of Boiler, three divisions of the Arctic motorized rifle brigade, as well as a number of other units of land and coastal troops, small ship formations, nuclear and diesel submarines.


Experts note that the flagship of the Northern Fleet has every chance of obtaining the status of the shock ship.

The solemn presentation of the attributes corresponding to the “shock” status will be made at the beginning of the new academic year in the military. The strike ship, in essence, is the core of a military unit, which in itself corresponds to a high status and increased responsibility for the entire ship crew.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 9 November 2017 17: 50 New
    29
    He’s shock already by his appointment. I understand there is an honorary title, "Guards" .. And this? I don’t understand ..
    1. hrych
      hrych 9 November 2017 17: 52 New
      +4
      Quote: 210ox
      He is shocking for its intended purpose.

      He is shock to the bone laughing
      1. Berkut24
        Berkut24 9 November 2017 19: 33 New
        16
        He is shock to the bone

        To be honest, it seems to me that the Moscow Region has played a little with socialist competitions and strange names. In 1941, almost all of the “shock armies” ended up in boilers due to the inability to be “defensive”. Fucking my association.
        Develop a readiness system for units and subunits. The higher the readiness, the higher the salaries of officers, sergeants, and ordinary personnel. And still women in the rear of colonels and generals receive salaries, and those who drive through the mountains of spirits are fired by honored captains and majors and then look for themselves in civilian life ...
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 9 November 2017 19: 57 New
          +1
          Quote: Berkut24
          In 1941, almost all of the “shock armies” ended up in boilers due to the inability to be “defensive”. Fucking my association.

          I don’t know about the association .. but ignorance of the details of those events .. you are being observed.
          Most of the 12 divisions in Belarus simply did not have time to turn into battle formations. To the flesh to the point that artillery was already at the borders, and warehouses with shells were loaded in Vitebsk ..
          1. Berkut24
            Berkut24 9 November 2017 21: 36 New
            +2
            I know history, it was military history that was taught in a military school. The problems continued until the end of the 43rd year, the generals studied with the blood of soldiers for a long time ...
          2. Voker74
            Voker74 9 November 2017 21: 58 New
            0
            They told you about this)
        2. NKT
          NKT 9 November 2017 21: 33 New
          +1
          They were not in the boilers in 1941. They only began to be created in the fall, and by the end of the year there were only 4 of them.
      2. ID90
        ID90 9 November 2017 21: 55 New
        +2
        Quote: hrych
        Quote: 210ox
        He is shocking for its intended purpose.

        He is shock to the bone laughing

        Now it is UNBREAKABLE. laughing
        Tuvinian tears the roof.
    2. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 9 November 2017 17: 58 New
      +1
      Nice ship. Because ours! Because it is ! And just because you like it!---- battleship Novorossiysk father-in-law was practicing .. ---------- Need big and strong ships .. Kids with calibers are good ... But this is SHIP!
      1. tlauicol
        tlauicol 9 November 2017 18: 11 New
        +5
        The photo is not Novorossiysk
        1. 210ox
          210ox 9 November 2017 18: 21 New
          +1
          "Paris Commune" in my opinion .. The ship is powerful, but a good target for aviation. World War II experience showed. An escort from destroyer cruisers is needed for such a ship. Even the Soviet Union could not allow this.
          Quote: Tlauicol
          The photo is not Novorossiysk
        2. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 9 November 2017 18: 26 New
          0
          Sorry, of course not Novorossiysk! Battleship "Paris Commune" - "Sevastopol" At one time, the battleship needed not to be cut into metal, but put, as a memory of the Russian fleet, onto the Mine wall !.
          1. 210ox
            210ox 9 November 2017 18: 36 New
            +2
            In Novorossiysk stands "Field Marshal Kutuzov" - a cruiser. This is certainly not a battleship, but as a memorial ship to our sailors and shipbuilders is wonderful ..
            Quote: 30 vis
            Sorry, of course not Novorossiysk! Battleship "Paris Commune" - "Sevastopol" At one time, the battleship needed not to be cut into metal, but put, as a memory of the Russian fleet, onto the Mine wall !.
      2. Pirogov
        Pirogov 9 November 2017 18: 27 New
        0
        Quote: 30 vis
        --- The battleship Novorossiysk father-in-law was practicing .. ---------- Need big and strong ships .. Kids with calibers are good ... But this is SHIP!

        In my opinion, you need to learn how to quickly build frigates, and then swipe at more serious ships. Until this happens, ships for example: Es Leader will turn into a long formation.
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 9 November 2017 19: 51 New
          +1
          Everything is clear and accepted by the mind. But the soul wants such powerful, powerful ships .... Perhaps such giants will no longer appear, expensive, then. Yes, this is not justified for the country ... There were battleships and dreadnoughts in Russia, probably the time for underwater battleships. "St. George "and" Vladimirov "!
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    3. AID.S
      AID.S 9 November 2017 17: 58 New
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      I understand there is an honorary title, "Guards" .. And this? I do not understand ..

      Perhaps the matter is in the financial component, possibly attached to this title?
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 9 November 2017 17: 58 New
      +1
      If he is already "Great", then what is the question? winked Really will be measured, who will hit harder !? belay
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    6. Barshchik-M
      Barshchik-M 9 November 2017 18: 10 New
      +6
      Quote: 210ox
      He’s shock already by his appointment. I understand there is an honorary title, "Guards" .. And this? I don’t understand ..

      "Shock", the title will be assigned primarily to the crew of the ship! Which act not only according to instructions, surrounded by enemy forces on long hikes ...

      Remember how we covered Syria from the Armada AUG of the USA eager to bomb the brotherly people of Syria .. Just closed the shores that we managed to collect and prepared to die ..
      Just do not have to be malicious, it was then (while our VKS, etc. were transferred to Syria)
      I even remember from the cruise missiles the volley was given by the arrogant Saxons of Obama, they all fell without flying .. .. (the article was here ..)
      These are the things .. Everything is yet to come and I hope we will not disgrace ourselves before our ancestors .. soldier
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 9 November 2017 18: 19 New
        +7
        and not only the coast. we by ships blocked the sea borders of Syria, in fact, our Fleet kept Syria from falling. only after that did the yankiprezik make a deal with the chemical weapons of the Syrians.
        1. Barshchik-M
          Barshchik-M 9 November 2017 21: 10 New
          +3
          Quote: newbie
          and not only the coast. we by ships blocked the sea borders of Syria, in fact, our Fleet kept Syria from falling. only after that did the yankiprezik make a deal with the chemical weapons of the Syrians.

          Exactly ! They would have gutted our "miserable fleet" of course, but there was already a bet on Russia's survival! Putin was bluffing then and for the big one ..!
          Risky man GDP! Well now, of course it’s easier already .. Although such a howl costs even plug your ears! soldier Everything is going according to plan ..
    7. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 9 November 2017 18: 17 New
      +5
      Quote: 210ox
      I understand there is an honorary title, "Guards" .. And this? I do not understand ..
      This is an attempt to inculcate the fleet with infantry terms. In the Great Patriotic War there were “shock armies”. Grandfather fought in the 2 th strike army in a tank landing.
      Amahs have strike boats. Sometimes they are called "attackers." Maybe we also went this way. But, apparently, they will also attach a financial equivalent to make it more significant.
      IMHO
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 9 November 2017 19: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: BoA KAA
        This is an attempt to inculcate the fleet with infantry terms. In the Great Patriotic War there were “shock armies”. Grandfather fought in the 2 th strike army in a tank landing.

        Impact units in Russia appeared even earlier - in the WWI.
      2. Barshchik-M
        Barshchik-M 9 November 2017 21: 21 New
        +2
        Quote: BoA KAA
        This is an attempt to inculcate the fleet with infantry terms. In the Great Patriotic War there were “shock armies”. Grandfather fought in the 2 th strike army in a tank landing.

        There is also such doubt, as I think the wrong way with the Navy!
        Like your grandfather and many, they were truly IMPACT! Eternal memory to them ..

        And we all are still far away, to our grandfathers and great-grandfathers .. How much is all about ... for a silly Horror!
    8. NEXUS
      NEXUS 9 November 2017 18: 33 New
      +4
      Quote: 210ox
      that the flagship of the SF cruiser "Peter the Great" will compete for obtaining the status of "shock"

      that the flagship of the SF cruiser "Peter the Great" will compete for obtaining the status of "shock"

      Again, some vyser zhurnalyug ... he is by birth and tasks a priori shock.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 9 November 2017 19: 46 New
        0
        Quote: NEXUS
        Again, some vyser zhurnalyug ... he is by birth and tasks a priori shock.

        So the title of “shock” is in no way connected with the appointment - this is just a designation for the “guard of the guard”.
        It’s just that the name of the new title for the best parts was chosen poorly - and confusion arises between “appointment” and “honorary title”.
    9. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 9 November 2017 19: 43 New
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      I understand there is an honorary title, "Guards" .. And this? I do not understand ..

      It's simple - so many “guards” ranks that they completely devalued this rank. Now it’s hard to find the non-guards. But somehow you need to highlight the elite.
      Therefore, the highest ranks of the Moscow Oblast scraped in the back of the head - and gave birth to the new title “shock” (Madame Bochkareva would have been glad). In fact - it's just a "guard guard."
      However, judging by the pace of assigning a new rank, it will soon be necessary to go to the third round in order to single out a new elite of the armed forces from the mass of "shock" units.
    10. antivirus
      antivirus 10 November 2017 07: 20 New
      0
      then he can fight for the title “NO OWNERS”
  2. stas
    stas 9 November 2017 17: 57 New
    +5
    What nonsense, if the submarine is not shock then why is it so needed. Shoigu overheated in the struggle for innovation.
    And sin and laughter.
    1. figwam
      figwam 9 November 2017 18: 12 New
      +5
      Quote: stas
      What nonsense, if the submarine is not shock then why is it so needed. Shoigu overheated in the struggle for innovation.
      And sin and laughter.

      ))) Do you think the title of shock is given due to the fact that the boat can launch rockets !? No, the percussion title is given to the best crew that serves on a boat, ship, etc. for their knowledge, training, preparation, respectively, they will be leaders among the rest and for this they will be the first to receive all the best, well, and increased salary, but their demand will be double.
      1. stas
        stas 9 November 2017 18: 27 New
        +7
        Leave your ligbes for children.
        Then assign the crew "Best."
        But you cannot ask 2 times more per person. There is a reasonable framework that our power is not enough.
        It remains only to set up a biathlon for submarines for the fun of Shoigu.
        1. figwam
          figwam 9 November 2017 18: 48 New
          +2
          Quote: stas
          Leave your ligbes for children.
          Then assign the crew "Best."
          But you cannot ask 2 times more per person. There is a reasonable framework that our power is not enough.
          It remains only to set up a biathlon for submarines for the fun of Shoigu.

          Just do not poke!
          You will not write nonsense, there will be no educational program for dull children.
          1. stas
            stas 9 November 2017 19: 01 New
            0
            Another appeared in the plural, you are not enough for him, come on YOU.
            Get off the oak weirdo.

            To you on all r ....
            1. SOF
              SOF 9 November 2017 19: 12 New
              +2
              ... by the way, a lot of intelligence is not necessary to understand the elementary - here it is accepted to “YOU”.
              And if, nevertheless, wisely absolute problems, then ...
              Quote: stas

              Get off the weirdo oak

              PS "ligbez" should be written as "educational program", in other words - the elimination of illiteracy.
              1. stas
                stas 9 November 2017 19: 19 New
                0
                In battle, a soldier will help with whom you are friends.
                The Vykaly will save themselves first.
                And according to the rules of the Russian language, the singular person is you. This is the Jews you accepted.
                As a rule, only a Jew teaches Russian the Russian language, Russian, and so he will understand everything without outrage.
                1. SOF
                  SOF 9 November 2017 23: 52 New
                  +2
                  Quote: stas
                  As a rule, only a Jew teaches Russian to Russian ...

                  ... actually, such opuses, if my memory serves me, are pulled to some article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Oh well ... I'm not talking about that.
                  If, YOU, open your eyes, then you should still be smart enough to understand that if I wrote "accepted", then this clearly indicates "accepted", and not at all the rules of the Russian language.
                  But, even so, knowledge of the etymology of forms of circulation in a language does not exempt from illiteracy in its application, and even more so does not justify a slide into outright bydity in communication ...
                  With deep non-respect ... hi
            2. figwam
              figwam 9 November 2017 19: 25 New
              +2
              Quote: stas
              Another appeared in the plural, you are not enough for him, come on YOU.
              Get off the oak weirdo.

              To you on all r ....

              Clearly, Stasik was offended. Defense Minister Shoigu, he did not call and did not ask what he would call the best units in the army.
              1. stas
                stas 9 November 2017 19: 27 New
                0
                YOU are not offended, not a Jew.
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            1. figwam
              figwam 9 November 2017 20: 04 New
              +1
              Quote: stas
              Do you want to YOU, be called a human name, not a dog Figv.

              I look at your obsession, rename everyone and everything. Too much honor ...
              1. stas
                stas 9 November 2017 20: 26 New
                0
                It’s not with me, it’s with them.
                Now there will be shock soldiers and not shock. Percussion ensign it will be cool.
                And in pursuit to place the letter "U".
                This is in the style of Shoigu, like his hats.
                1. figwam
                  figwam 9 November 2017 20: 39 New
                  0
                  Quote: stas
                  It’s not with me, it’s with them.
                  Now there will be shock soldiers and not shock. Percussion ensign it will be cool.
                  And in pursuit to place the letter "U".
                  This is in the style of Shoigu, like his hats.

                  Yes, the title “shock” even before the First World War, whole armies received and on a civilian in Soviet times, the title “shock” was received by brigades on collective farms and at enterprises, and separately they gave people throughout the country. Shoigu did not invent anything, he already took what was, you have 0 knowledge in history.
      2. Freeman
        Freeman 9 November 2017 19: 26 New
        +1
        Today, 18: 12
        the percussion title is given to the best crew that serves on a boat, ship, etc. for their knowledge, training, preparation, respectively, they will be leaders among the rest and for this they will receive first all the best, well, and increased salary, but the demand from them will be double.

        At the forum, "nachfinov" themselves are interested in this issue, but even they do not have reliable information.
        http://www.nachfin.info/SMF/index.php?topic=27902
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        1. figwam
          figwam 9 November 2017 19: 34 New
          +1
          Freeman

          There is order 1010, money is allocated for the bonus of drugs, here are drums and will receive them in the first place.
          1. Freeman
            Freeman 9 November 2017 19: 43 New
            +1
            Quote: figvam
            Freeman

            There is order 1010, money is allocated for the bonus of drugs, here are drums and will receive them in the first place.

            May God grant, otherwise they can do only by “presenting a special heraldic sign”.
            The "Status Statement << Impact >>" itself is not publicly available.
            1. figwam
              figwam 9 November 2017 19: 55 New
              +1
              Quote: Freeman

              May God grant, otherwise they can do only by “presenting a special heraldic sign”.

              And this will depend on the financing of the army.
              1. stas
                stas 9 November 2017 20: 38 New
                0
                Figs, and yet it is not necessary to write edible food or not edible figs.
          2. stas
            stas 9 November 2017 19: 44 New
            +1
            Damn, and what not drums will not receive a bonus for good service.
            If the part is guards, then that’s it.
            Oil cannot be buttery but vodka is vodka, and a guardsman is an shock guardsman.
            This is called - when the cat has nothing to do, then he ... and .... t.
            Let's assign to our LADY -
            shock prime minister, and Shoigu as shock minister. Rave.
  3. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 9 November 2017 18: 00 New
    +2
    The cruiser "Peter the Great" is fighting for the status of "shock"
    Come on. Let it hit more often.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 9 November 2017 21: 58 New
      0
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      The cruiser "Peter the Great" is fighting for the status of "shock"
      Come on. Let it hit more often.

      And in the dark.
  4. Going
    Going 9 November 2017 18: 04 New
    10
    Solemn presentation of attributes corresponding to the “shock” status,


    I even became curious if they would reveal the semantic load - shock status.
  5. Cartalon
    Cartalon 9 November 2017 18: 08 New
    +3
    What sort of nonsense, obviously, is meant by the percussionist, excellent, but if some minesweeper will have the best crew, will he be called a percussionist too?
  6. HEATHER
    HEATHER 9 November 2017 18: 08 New
    +6
    flagship SF cruiser "Peter the Great" will compete for the status of "shock".It is interesting what kind of D.I.- lo..id invented it. The strike cruiser will fight for the title of SHOCK. Not everything in the Moscow region is good with brains.
    1. newcomer
      newcomer 9 November 2017 18: 12 New
      +3
      yes God be with them. I wonder: why among the pretenders aren’t, say, the Moscow missile cruiser, or our only and not repeatable Kuznetsov? (I would also have entered the “Shark," but its fate is still being decided).
  7. APASUS
    APASUS 9 November 2017 18: 17 New
    +1
    Something he didn’t understand, he was percussion by his purpose. Something is hidden behind a pun, financial allowances for officers or rations, what’s the whole point
  8. resh
    resh 9 November 2017 18: 18 New
    0
    Quote: Tlauicol
    The photo is not Novorossiysk

    This is the battleship October Revolution.
  9. Deck
    Deck 9 November 2017 18: 29 New
    +2
    I think the Shock Big Landing Ship sounds a lot cooler! You can greatly puzzle the enemy.
    1. stas
      stas 9 November 2017 18: 42 New
      +2
      A play on words, but the essence will remain the same.
      Like the shock brigade of capitalist labor or the shock Hero of "capitalist" labor.
      Sounds even cooler. Chubais should be awarded this title.
      1. Krabik
        Krabik 9 November 2017 18: 55 New
        0
        The shock market five-year plan named after the October Revolution.
        1. stas
          stas 9 November 2017 18: 59 New
          +2
          Under Putin's capitalism, this is enchanting cynicism.
          Our Putin capitalism is cynical from the Tsar to the clerk of the rural administration in Chukotka.
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  11. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 9 November 2017 19: 41 New
    0
    I apologize, but the ship created by the percussion, in principle, can fight for this title ???
    1. stas
      stas 9 November 2017 19: 51 New
      +3
      Not until he receives a letter that he is not a shock.
      It can be suggested that a man who does not have legitimate children should not be called a man until he brings a certificate from his wife that he, too, can do children but does not want to be a bastard.
    2. ariman1
      ariman1 9 November 2017 21: 52 New
      0
      well, if it blows, then it will no longer be shocked, it will become shockless and will be sent to hunt poachers and go fishing. Until it gets better
  12. platon4387
    platon4387 9 November 2017 20: 27 New
    0
    Wikipedia about EAGLE 1144 does not say badly. About 300 different missiles. And so on. And you can not. All TARKR CAN !!!!!
  13. asushnik 78
    asushnik 78 9 November 2017 20: 39 New
    0
    The economy must be economical, guard-guards, strike cruiser-strike!
  14. garri-lin
    garri-lin 9 November 2017 20: 49 New
    0
    Ranks and titles increasing the "elitism" of units can be given based on the results of real hostilities. For peacetime, “excellent combat training excellentman”, “cool cool combat training excellentman”, “coolest excellent military training excellentman”, “combat training instructor” and so on through the list up to and including superpupermega gipermaksi + 100500 thousand masters are enough for peacetime.
    It is necessary to encourage, but to diminish the status of the title of universal encouragement is stupid. And before the ancestors it’s uncomfortable, which sweat and blood.
  15. ariman1
    ariman1 9 November 2017 21: 51 New
    0
    some crap ... He’s already the core of the group, he’s probably not allowed to go to sea alone .... some sort of regular protege from the Federal Tax Service comes up with titles
  16. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 9 November 2017 22: 27 New
    +1
    Our Defense Ministry would take care to bring the number of ships for operations in the far zone to at least half of the Soviet structure before the collapse of the USSR. And then Brezhnev reporting will begin again and they will forget about constant combat readiness. hi
  17. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 10 November 2017 09: 23 New
    0
    Peter the Great is a strike cruiser, and there is no need to fight.
  18. Engineer
    Engineer 10 November 2017 11: 09 New
    0
    Peter has one problem - there is nothing to strike at ground targets. No, well, of course there is the possibility of firing granites at ground targets, but there is no more stupid use of RCC. Here even our rocket boats with 6 calibers tax it. That's when they put it on him, if Kudrin allows me to give money, UKSK 3S14, then we can already talk about a full-fledged strike ship.
  19. weddu
    weddu 11 November 2017 23: 25 New
    0
    All Eagles need to be modernized and maintained, although as a symbol, like Project 941, size matters, and technology becomes obsolete, quickly, even faster ...