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A product called "Revolution". 100 years of digestion

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In one of the works, whose authorship is attributed to Nikolai Bukharin, it is said that just a few days after the revolutionary events of October 1917 in Petrograd, the group from the top of the Bolsheviks seriously and with obvious apprehension considered the days "before a possible counter-revolution". The reasons for such concerns in November-December 1917 of the year were several factors, including the impossibility of promptly notifying the residents of the country's regions about the coming to power of the “workers and peasants party” and the impossibility of mass announcement of the party program, which the local masses could actively support .


The Bolsheviks feared that the regional “old-regime” authorities would raise the people to revolt against the emerging governing element of the new country - the Land of the Soviets - and the people would sweep away those against whom the statements were repeatedly made as about the incarnations of the German conspiracy against Russia. In principle, the situation completely boiled down to this - during the civil war. However, the victories of the counter-revolution, which the revolutionaries feared, did not happen. The Soviet state was eventually formed. On the incarnation or non-incarnation of German interests after October - the question is still open.

And after the death of Nikolai Bukharin (after the development of the case of the so-called “Anti-Soviet Protro the Cyclist Bloc”), as a result of the execution of the death sentence in 1938, it was unlikely that anyone in the top of the Bolshevik Party would think that in just half a century or so small revolutionary jubilees will become history, and that 1917 events will be subject to serious evaluations. And it is not even about the so-called liberal revaluation, for which any destructive is declared positive if this destructiveness concerns life in Russia. It is about evaluation in a broader sense of the word.

Today, on the day of the 100 anniversary of the October Revolution, which for a long time wore the official name of "Great", it would be strange not to remember the anniversary. It would be strange to try to dismiss the fact that in the history of our state there were also such periods of history as the statehood itself was in fact put in great doubt. It was not just questioned, but, as in the case of October 1917, it really ceased to exist. Temporarily ... And it could well have been forever, taking into account both the very prerequisites of the coming to power of the Bolsheviks, and the first revolutionary fruits with territorial and administrative "questions".
Revolution ... How much has been said about it. How many volumes are written. How many physiognomies are full. How much, how much, how much ... In general, the 100 revolution of years. And what blows from this word, from this event today - exactly a century after that milestone in the history of the state?

A product called "Revolution". 100 years of digestion


It is always interesting to see how the “Russian revolution” —the great and terrible — is attempted to be presented to us (the citizens of Russia) by “friends of Russia” from abroad. Especially from the country that had, to put it mildly, not the last relation to what happened in Petrograd in October of the seventeenth.

So, the other day on the site of a German radio station Deutsche Welle Appeared material of the columnist of this German media Miodrag Zorich. Mr. Zorich is being killed about the fact that today's Russians are so “dark” that, you see, they cannot “look at the historical truth in the eyes”. So Zorich himself apparently looked the way he correctly understood - a representative of the Balkan people is now working for the German media and writing materials about the “wrong” Russians, berating Putin and Stalin. Well, the trend is the same ...

The material of Zorich has the following name: “Vladimir Putin and the October Revolution. Is there a proper handling of history? ”Here are some quotes from the material that we, Russians, say,“ can’t continue to live like this ”, that you need to“ repent ”without fail and rethink everything so that you like Zorich, Deutsche Vella and everything progressive West.

Marxism-Leninism became opium for the people. He justified murder, robbery and many crimes in the name of ideology.
Communist leaders destroyed the normal life of many generations. They killed millions of people and staged the largest persecution of Christians in history.


And after years of 100, the Kremlin continues to spread false information about the October Revolution, because Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin were no patriots. It is hoped that future generations of Russians have the courage to look at the historical truth in the eyes.


It is important to note that the material on the Deutsche Welle pages is presented as “Recommended by the editors”.

Dear Comrades from Deutsche Welle. What do you say? You know the Russian soul so badly that you cannot understand one thing - if you persistently demand “repentance” and “face the truth”, we are indeed able to unite even against the background of such a controversial event as the October Revolution and its centenary anniversary. We in Russia can break spears for years with respect to the positive or negative personalities of Lenin or Stalin mentioned by you, but as soon as a certain collective “Zorich” appears, the personality of the times when the Bolsheviks became the authorities will fade into the background in any relation to them. The focus is on your attempts to teach us the “right” attitude to your own history.

And we, excuse me, do not like when we are trying to present our history under German, French, American, pseudo-Balkan and other foreign sauce. And even more we don’t like it when from the country supporting the coup of 1991 of the year in the USSR, the Maidan of 2014 of the year in Ukraine heard statements about our “need” to comprehend all the horrors of the October revolution of 1917 of the year ... This is actually the peak of duplicity - to support the oligarchic unconstitutional coup in Kiev, kiss the sugar lips of Poroshenko and immediately try to declare that Lenin and Stalin were not patriots. And who is a patriot? - Merkel, who spread the carpet in front of millions of refugees, including thousands of identified terrorists blowing up Europe today? .. Gorbachev, asking ... (that is, losing) a huge country on pseudo-slogans about restructuring and freedom and leading a huge civilization space to blood and chaos? Poroshenko, who continues to throw new and new victims into the mouth of the civil war? .. You are already there with your position to begin to decide in order to advise Russia "to develop a" due "attitude to historical retrospective."

What is the attitude of the Russians to the date? Yes, it is contradictory. Yes, it has boiling points. But the main thing is that this is a story, our common history. You can spit on the portraits of Lenin and Stalin, you can go with them along the street with a red ribbon on the lapel. You can admire the revolution or mourn its victims. You can call the Bolshevik revolutionaries angels, you can - demons. Is it bad? Is it bad that every person in Russia has his own attitude to the revolutionary upheavals 100 years ago, and this attitude remains inside each of us. This attitude we are all free to share with each other. Listen to arguments, defend your position. Is not it a democracy? Isn't that freedom of expression? The bad thing is that there are people who are trying to openly impose, average, and humble themselves the attitude towards history. Moreover, there are many who use such defamation for the sole purpose of trying to deprive Russia of unity in diversity, presenting their position as a “new good”.

That is why it is important not to engage in historical picking and flagellation, but to recognize simple things. The October revolution in history was - this time. Since then, exactly 100 years have passed - that's two. There are many who are ready to repeat - these are three. And there are those who are ready to make such a revolution, which would “not repeat the mistakes of the Bolsheviks” and did not create a great power, destroying what is today - these are four.

In general, October seventeenth is a reminder, a historical call for each of us. A reminder that the fruits of the revolution are, alas, not only, and often not so much, honey and rosy perspectives ... A reminder from October 17 with reference to today’s day - that not every revolution leads to primacy in space and the Great Victory ... And that not every revolution is concocting from within.
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  1. Sergey-svs
    Sergey-svs 7 November 2017 06: 39 New
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    All with the 100th Great October Socialist Revolution! The result of which was the USSR, the country that gave us a happy childhood and youth! Hooray!!! good soldier
    1. kuz363
      kuz363 7 November 2017 06: 47 New
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      Join now!
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 7 November 2017 07: 02 New
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        And to me, military doctors, using the experience of field surgery, already in peacetime in childhood saved a life without an operation at all!
        The Soviet Motherland gave me free health and an excellent education!

        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 7 November 2017 07: 40 New
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          kuz363
          Join now!

          Vladimir! Happy Great October to all compatriots in the former Soviet socialist republics!
        2. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 7 November 2017 07: 50 New
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          COMRADE! HAPPY GREAT OCTOBER !!!
          Enough stnov!
          Know, not everything is lost, We will win.
          We will be courageous and worthy of our ancestors!
          We will become shoulder to shoulder.
          Our cause is right!
          Victory will be ours!
          1. Monos
            Monos 7 November 2017 12: 55 New
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            All with ANNIVERSARY! This is OUR Story! And only WE can evaluate it! Because it was created by OUR ANCESTORS! And the whole Russophobic shushera goes through the forest!
            1. Ulan
              Ulan 7 November 2017 21: 31 New
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              Even Pushkin said that we Russians can scold Russia and its regimes among ourselves, but as soon as a stranger tries to do this in our society, we will unite right away to give a damn ... e.
              The Great October is our great history, this is the first time in the history of mankind an attempt to build a just society.
              Yes, there were traitors who ruined everything and vulgarized it, but we learned a lesson and I hope the second attempt will be successful.
              WITH A FRIEND HOLIDAY !!!
      2. albert
        albert 7 November 2017 17: 39 New
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        GLORY TO THE GREAT OCTOBER !!!
    2. 210ox
      210ox 7 November 2017 06: 48 New
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      I fully support! And how all kinds of zorichs and similar “freedoms” are raging! It’s absolutely impossible to burn out of us these ideals of justice and world peace! hi
      Quote: Sergey-svs
      All with the 100th Great October Socialist Revolution! The result of which was the USSR, the country that gave us a happy childhood and youth! Hooray!!! good soldier
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    4. dSK
      dSK 7 November 2017 09: 11 New
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      "we will destroy the old world to the ground, and then we will build a new world, who was nobody he will become everything". Social revolution is always chaos, destruction, popular woes. We need social evolution - the development of positive qualities and the elimination of negative ones. Breaking does not build.
      1. SERGUS
        SERGUS 7 November 2017 13: 00 New
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        Quote: dsk
        "we old world we’ll destroy it to the ground, and then we will build a new world, who was nobody, that will become everything. "

        All world of violence we will destroy; To the ground, and then; We are ours, we will build a new world ... Who was nothing, that will become everything.

        You exaggerate, they wanted to destroy the world of injustice, and not just to destroy something like in Ukraine and in the 90s.
        Quote: dsk
        Social revolution is always chaos, destruction, popular woes. We need social evolution - the development of positive qualities and the elimination of negative ones.

        The revolution occurs because no one wants to give up power, how could Lenin come to power through evolution? To tell the interim government I am a good uncle, I want to build a state of universal justice, and they would have told him well, if necessary, let's lead. Yes, the revolution is destruction and national troubles, but neither Lenin nor Nikolai 2 brought society to a civil war.
        Quote: dsk
        Breaking does not build.

        Only the communists built ten times more than they broke.
        1. Krabik
          Krabik 7 November 2017 19: 55 New
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          I fully agree with you; they are trying to hang the mistakes of others on Lenin.

          But he should not be evaluated because he was a revolutionary, but because he created after the USSR revolution and left behind Stalin’s successor, who was more important to build a new state, and not bring revolution to the whole world like Trotsky.

          On the good side, Nicholas 2, if he was already bogged down in the WWI, he had to try to get away from the confrontation with Germany, and inside the country to create a body like senators / governors and delegate some of the powers on their shoulders without completely leaving the country's leadership.

          Well and most importantly, of course hang, as the Decembrists of all the rabid revolutionaries who would not be ready to go to peace talks.

          But as they say "we all imagine ourselves as generals seeing the battle from the outside."
      2. gladcu2
        gladcu2 8 November 2017 00: 33 New
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        dSK

        Unfortunately, it is not possible to change Capitalism into socialism-communism evolutionarily.

        Capitalism has owners. They will not let destroy their enterprise. And they control the behavior of the world's population.
        However, there is hope for a conflict of interest. Since there have always been, there are, and will be, contradictions between the owners.
        Then some side will launch changes that will affect the economic system.
    5. vovanpain
      vovanpain 7 November 2017 09: 13 New
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      All members of the forum on the occasion of the Great Revolution, which created a country that gave us all education, health, respect and pride in the Great Country and its people, who overcame devastation, civil war, carried out industrialization and won the Great Patriotic War, restored the economy destroyed by the war and conquered the Cosmos . I join the author, everyone can relate to the anniversary, but this is our story, and our people did it, and all sorts of Zvonichki, Merkel and other husks go through the forest. All with the Anniversary Friends! drinks hi
      Sun Diana love love love Happy Birthday to You. love love love
      1. Varyag_0711
        Varyag_0711 7 November 2017 13: 16 New
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        vovanpain Today, 09: 13 ↑
        All members of the forum on the occasion of the Great Revolution
        Let me join the congratulation! The Great October Revolution turned the whole world. The revolution in Russia showed the entire working people the path to social justice and social equality. It’s a pity that only we turned off this path with the arrival of Khrushchev.
        Sun Diana love love love happy birthday to you. love love love
        Vladimir, do I understand correctly that this is addressed to Diana Ilyina? If so, then sincerely join the congratulation! Diana happy birthday! love love love All of the very best and may luck always accompany you!
    6. ID90
      ID90 7 November 2017 10: 32 New
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      Quote: Sergey-svs
      All with the 100th Great October Socialist Revolution! The result of which was the USSR, the country that gave us a happy childhood and youth! Hooray!!! good soldier

    7. SergeyZel
      SergeyZel 7 November 2017 15: 08 New
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      Join us!
    8. smart ass
      smart ass 7 November 2017 23: 35 New
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      Information on the mortality of prisoners in the Gulag system for the period 1930-1956 [8]:

      Years Deaths% Deaths
      to the middle
      1930 * 7 980 4,2
      1931 * 7 283 2,9
      1932 * 13 197 4,8
      1933 * 67 297 15,3
      1934 * 25 187 4,28
      1935 ** 31 636 2,75
      1936 ** 24 993 2,11
      1937 ** 31 056 2,42
      1938 ** 108 654 5,35
      1939 *** 44 750 3,1
      1940 41 275 2,72
      1941 115 484 6,1
      1942 352 560 24,9
      1943 267 826 22,4
      1944 114 481 9,2
      1945 81 917 5,95
      1946 30 715 2,2
      1947 66 830 3,59
      1948 50 659 2,28
      1949 29 350 1,21
      1950 24 511 0,95
      1951 22 466 0,92
      1952 20 643 0,84
      1953 **** 9 628 0,67
      1954 8 358 0,69
      1955 4 842 0,53
      1956 3 164 0,4
      Total 1 material Wikipedia. For comparison, the losses in Afghanistan are 606 dead.
    9. smart ass
      smart ass 7 November 2017 23: 47 New
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      Losses in the Civil War Category of losses Number (thousand people) [106]
      Total killed and died of wounds 2500
      Red Army 950
      White and National Army 650
      green rebels 900
      Died as a result of terror 2000
      from red terror 1200
      from white terror 300
      from green terror 500
      Starvation and epidemics died 6000
      Total killed 10
      Emigrated 2000
      Total losses 12500
      1. regsSSSR
        regsSSSR 8 November 2017 03: 04 New
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        smart ass
        Total 1 material Wikipedia. For comparison, the loss in Afghanistan of 606 dead

        Well, thank you for at least not a link to Moscow’s echo))) I know on this subject already in endless discussions (though not on this site) at one time I already rummaged through a lot of material and information (right now there are enough open archives in open sources) who. what. when. why and why. that you can probably arrange an endless debate with the same results. and therefore, let's not waste your time and yours and mine, but look at the problem from above and turn to Comrade Puchkov’s video on this topic! with the conclusions of which (if you briefly approach the problem), I personally agree with one hundred percent! and now I would like to hear at least one but convincing and constructive argument in what exactly is admissible in your opinion is he wrong ?? oper.ru/news/read.php?t=1051619850&page=1
      2. regsSSSR
        regsSSSR 8 November 2017 04: 20 New
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        smart ass
        Losses in the Civil War Category of losses Number (thousand people) [106]


        well, let's play by your rules! . take the years 1991-1998. I won’t dive into the numbers, since their exact number is still unknown and I’ll go straight to the conclusions from 91 to 98 the former population of the USSR - without war. (armed) revolutions. the gulags. death penalty and so on and so forth. supposedly in the most free time for the entire historical cycle of Russia, the prosperous Gorbachev Yeltsin liberal-democratic period bully perished the people throughout the alliance (for various reasons) much more than for the entire period of the revolution of 1905-17. further reasons - gang warfare - which claimed their lives for obscure goals and other people's loot simply a lot of young healthy guys (probably over tens of thousands all over the CIS!) + poisoning with cheap surrogate alcohol and uncontrolled drug addiction is also no less + from the decline of poor-quality medicine + ghost towns ! loss of half of enterprises and jobs! the disorder in the new time of people who could not find themselves in the new wild capitalism ala chubays and (personally familiar with the problem) the population leak for various reasons + a huge demographic crisis that has not been solved so far, even during the temporary gulags and war! now and then there are constantly dying out military conflicts because of weak will and venality of the central government.! result! - because of all this, in the most peaceful time, we have not military losses comparable or even superior to the revolution of 1905-17! study all statistics when you spread new figures!
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 8 November 2017 06: 08 New
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          Question in another, are you really happy about the event as a result of which Russia collapsed? Lost the war (signed the world as a result of which about 1 million square kilometers of territory and the Black Sea Fleet were torn away)? Rejoice at the event that led your country to civil war and repression? By 1921, Russia literally lay in ruins. The territories of Poland, Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Western Ukraine, Belarus, the Kara region (in Armenia) and Bessarabia departed from the former Russian Empire. According to experts, the population in the remaining territories barely reached 135 million people. Losses in these territories as a result of wars, epidemics, emigration, and a decrease in the birth rate have been at least 1914 million people since 25.

          During the hostilities, the mining enterprises of the Donetsk coal basin, the Baku oil district, the Urals and Siberia were particularly affected, and many mines and mines were destroyed. Due to lack of fuel and raw materials, the plants stopped. Workers were forced to leave the city and leave for the village. The overall level of industrial production decreased by 5 times. The equipment has not been updated for a long time. Metallurgy produced as much metal as it was smelted under Peter I.
          1. Ulan
            Ulan 8 November 2017 18: 39 New
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            Lost territory? Is the story over? You act like all primitive cheaters from history, pull one link from the general chain of events and draw global conclusions on it.
            First, speaking of what event led to the Civil War, this is the February Revolution.
            Loss of land. Excellent. Maybe remember what happened next? A year later, the Brest Peace was terminated, and by the 39th year, ALL territories were returned, and even more than - Western Ukraine. Finland and Poland need not be brought in, firstly they were never completely Russian, but were lost after February. It was then that Finland and Poland declared independence and this was recognized by the Provisional Government.
            I do not like liars.
            1. smart ass
              smart ass 8 November 2017 20: 32 New
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              I also do not like them, I agree with you on the territories. Comment on the devastation of fratricide and terror will be?
              1. Ulan
                Ulan 8 November 2017 20: 37 New
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                Will be. Of course this is all tragedy, only how could this be avoided? There was one way to avoid the Civil War — the Bolsheviks voluntarily give up power to those whom they removed from power.
                Do you believe that? Power is not taken in order to give it up on demand.
                Consequently, the attempt of those whom the Bolsheviks removed from power, to return this power to themselves, inevitably led to the Civil War. With all the ensuing consequences.
                1. smart ass
                  smart ass 8 November 2017 21: 18 New
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                  That’s why one cannot cheer and congratulate everyone on the anniversary of the revolution like a happy new year. You need to understand that this is the date of the greatest catastrophe of all Russian and remember what it led to. The Russian people had to go through civil war famine and poverty in order to build something worthwhile.
                  1. regsSSSR
                    regsSSSR 9 November 2017 01: 03 New
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                    I put the wrong video! or moderators or something naughty)) here!

                  2. regsSSSR
                    regsSSSR 9 November 2017 01: 46 New
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                    smart ass
                    That’s why you cannot yell and congratulate everyone on the anniversary of the revolution like a happy new year
                    You need to understand that this is the date of the greatest catastrophe of all Russian and remember what it led to. The Russian people had to go through civil war famine and poverty in order to build something worthwhile


                    belay it's from some kind of a fright! no pipes! Do not want and do not celebrate! for you and so new holidays are thought up above the roof!
                    maybe you again did not notice BUT unas (although in principle, as in the whole world as a whole) the whole history from ancient Russia to modern Russia is the blood of war, famine feuds and so on and so forth. as they say through the thorns to the stars, and if you listen to it, it’s possible to celebrate nothing new one year of the current and will remain laughing

                    you understand what’s the matter if you forget and forget and throw all the holidays associated with the events of 17 years on the shelf! then I’m just convinced that in a few years we’ll soon celebrate the holidays of Count Patanin winked )) Prince Chubais! laughing a baron of some kind of isinberg and his children of billionaires))) well and of course their main protege looking at the post of emperor of all rf! bully surname of any kind, it does not play a role))) and now you know that - so that these comrades are not raised again in a pitchfork in memory of the events of 17 years, she must hang with the sword of Damocles over the head of any new successors of power! to remember the consequences! and then our memory is usually meek and especially that of the ruling classwinked ! and therefore, it’s not that it is impossible to celebrate the day of the revolution, but it is necessary and necessary on a grand scale that ALL rulers whoever they remember who is the main in the country! : PEOPLE: and it’s just differently, everything will go in a circle again yes
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          2. regsSSSR
            regsSSSR 9 November 2017 00: 46 New
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            smart ass
            Question in another, are you really happy about the event as a result of which Russia collapsed?

            what I rejoice in there or not, it doesn’t matter at all! since the process of natural events that happened before will not affect you in any way! but history doesn’t know what .......

            smart ass
            Lost the war (signed the world as a result of which about 1 million square kilometers of territory and the Black Sea Fleet were torn away)?


            belay well you give! and you do not confuse a consequence with the reason ?? how can you lose what you did not start? In my opinion, it’s no secret that the revolution just became the final final consequence of the fact that Nicholas 2 completely stupidly shaved TWO wars in a row! and this is an indisputable historical fact!

            smart ass
            Rejoice at the event that led your country to civil war and repression?

            You’re arguing right now, as our (loved ones) echoed from the rain)) so who brought this to this belay ?? consequence and cause of ale !! what can the Bolsheviks themselves have led to the fact that again the Bolsheviks themselves eventually won the revolution, so what do you think it turns out ?? wassat and the whole more than two centuries-old process, which ultimately led to the fall of the monarchical system, we didn’t notice rightly ??
            as always, I see here and here I don’t see!

            smart ass
            According to experts

            But by chance, aren't these specialists here! winked laughing Oh well !
            The US administration believes that over a hundred years after the October Revolution in Russia, more than 100 million people became victims of "totalitarian communist regimes" in the world.

            “Over the past century, communist totalitarian regimes throughout the world have killed more than 100 million people and subjected to innumerable more (number of people. - Ed.) Exploitation, violence and indescribable ruin. These movements, under the false pretext of liberation, systematically robbed the innocent people’s rights granted by God to freedom of religion, freedom of assembly and the countless other rights that we have. Citizens seeking freedom were subjugated to the state through coercion, violence and fear, "the White House said in a statement.

            The statement is dedicated to the National Day of the Victims of Communism, which is celebrated on the anniversary of the "Bolshevik revolution" in Russia. "The Bolshevik revolution spawned the Soviet Union and its dark decades of oppressive communism - a political philosophy incompatible with the freedom, prosperity and dignity of human life," the White House states.

            The white gentleman explained how to think and what to do.
            A new training manual for Russian friends is ready. bully
            but let's turn to the opinion of a new nascent superpower
            A century ago, the guns of the October Revolution brought Marxism-Leninism to China. The advanced minds of China in the scientific theory of Marxism-Leninism have found a way to solve the country's problems, ”said the leader of the Middle Kingdom.
            According to Xi Jinping, "in this way, the Chinese people found support in the search for national independence, freedom, prosperity and happiness."

            wink
  2. Grandfather
    Grandfather 7 November 2017 06: 44 New
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    Happy holiday to all for whom this holiday! drinks
    1. My address
      My address 7 November 2017 06: 57 New
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      Join us!
      It might not have been entirely fair in 1917 to take away from some and give it to everyone. But it was certainly unfair to take away from everyone in 90's to give to some!
      1. Alone
        Alone 7 November 2017 12: 39 New
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        Very well written and picture in the subject good Happy holiday, forum users!
    2. a.sirin
      a.sirin 7 November 2017 17: 26 New
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      Not for all. Some had ancestors on the other side. Didn’t think?
      1. CT-55_11-9009
        CT-55_11-9009 9 November 2017 11: 15 New
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        Quote: a.sirin
        Not for all. Some had ancestors on the other side. Didn’t think?

        Now they also don’t think about those who still love the USSR, when they spit on it at the state level and at home with impunity. But is it worth it to think about such?
        1. a.sirin
          a.sirin 9 November 2017 18: 42 New
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          Ok, you do not think about us, we - about you ...
          Civil war begins with this. You are ready?
          1. CT-55_11-9009
            CT-55_11-9009 10 November 2017 08: 53 New
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            Quote: a.sirin
            Civil war begins with this. You are ready?

            Yes. Although I would not want to.
            1. a.sirin
              a.sirin 10 November 2017 15: 03 New
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              Want to shoot your own? Or do you know a magic recipe for distinguishing lambs from goats? At the beginning of the last century, there were such ready ones too, but everything ended, as I understand it, okay?
              By the way, they will shoot at you too
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 November 2017 06: 45 New
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    It is difficult to expect that Western newspapers once, and even more so today, spoke positively about the Revolution of 17 (the exception is the press of the communist parties of Western countries and then at a certain time). And it doesn’t matter who wrote about this - the representative of the "Balkan people" or the indigenous representative of the western country. They cursed, cursed, and will curse otherwise how to distract attention from their internal problems and once again poke their hard-nosed finger at Russia.
    Happy holiday man and of course the ladies who take an active part on the site!
    1. SERGUS
      SERGUS 7 November 2017 13: 09 New
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      Quote: rotmistr60
      It is difficult to expect that Western newspapers once, and even more so today, spoke positively about the Revolution of 17

      But they speak positively about Gorbachev, EBN, Poroshenko, they dominate all those who bring chaos and evil. In my opinion, all these journalists are servants of the devil, and America is a true empire of evil!
  4. Same lech
    Same lech 7 November 2017 06: 50 New
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    The material of Zorich has the following name: “Vladimir Putin and the October Revolution. Is there a proper handling of history? ”Here are some quotes from the material that we, Russians, say,“ can’t continue to live like this ”, that you need to“ repent ”without fail and rethink everything so that you like Zorich, Deutsche Vella and everything progressive West.


    Various rogues like Zorich and Gozman want to make us lie, deceit, juggle the facts with our crooks ...



    This is our story ... the story of my homeland ... let it be tragic, letting it be happy, let it be with our mistakes ... but it was created later with the blood of our ancestors and I will always fight all sorts of historical perverts who want to destroy it and us at the same time.
    I am not a supporter of the Communists and do not share their ideology but in spite smile I’ll tell all the enemies of RUSSIA ... on the soviet ... on the cotton ...
    Long live the Great October Socialist Revolution, which shook the entire rotten world to its foundations and gave a powerful impetus to the development of our society!
    1. AUL
      AUL 7 November 2017 11: 48 New
      +8
      What is the attitude of Russians to the date? Yes, it is contradictory. Yes, it has boiling points. But the main thing is that this is history, our common history. You can spit on portraits of Lenin and Stalin, you can walk with them along the street with a red ribbon on the lapel. You can admire the revolution or mourn its victims. You can call the Bolshevik revolutionaries angels, you can call demons. Is it really bad? Is it bad that every person in Russia has his own attitude to the revolutionary upheavals of 100 years ago, and this attitude remains within each of us. We are free to share this relationship with each other.
      I completely agree with the author! This is OUR story, no matter how ambiguous it is. Therefore, we will figure it out in our sandbox, and foreign analysts go through the woods.
  5. evil partisan
    evil partisan 7 November 2017 06: 55 New
    +8
    Quote: Author: Volodin Alexey
    And that not every revolution is concocted from within.

    "Concocted," thinks maybe not from the inside. But something happens thanks to the masses! If society does not have the required number of young, active men under the age of 40 who are dissatisfied with their position, then there can be no revolution, only coups. This must be monitored closely: to prevent excessively sharp stratification of society on a material basis, to work with youth in terms of ideology. After all, the Komsomol construction projects were not in vain invented. A huge number of active youth smelled of them for several decades, not without benefit for themselves and for the state. And when such construction projects suddenly disappeared, the driving force of any revolution immediately appeared - active, healthy men up to 40 years old ... Even the Northern Latitudinal Way somehow did not advance ... repeat
  6. kuz363
    kuz363 7 November 2017 07: 01 New
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    First of all, congratulations to everyone who managed to live in the USSR! Yes, we lived in a great country and were proud of it. Space, Gagarin, Vysotsky, atomic energy ... Protection of all oppressed peoples of the globe. Of course, there were cons in everyday life - there was a shortage of delicious food and goods, they didn’t let them go abroad, they didn’t sell foreign currency, they did queues in stores ... The domestic color TV weighed 60 kg! But in different cities in its own way. People traveled to Moscow in trains to buy meat and sausages from nearby towns. But the food was natural, without chemistry, and palm oil! Housing was provided free of charge, as was education and medicine. After universities, graduates are guaranteed to have a job., And retirees have a decent pension. Unions defended workers and the worker was almost impossible to dismiss. Hooray, comrades!
    1. Ulan
      Ulan 8 November 2017 18: 50 New
      0
      I would argue about the deficit. I was born and raised in a small district town in the Tula region.
      I perfectly remember the abundance on the collective farm market. There were two pavilions dairy and meat. In dairy - milk, sour cream, cottage cheese, butter. More expensive, but not by much.
      In meat, poultry is chickens, ducks, geese. Lamb, pork, beef. You want a tenderloin, you want what they called in the stores - a soup set, but there is a lot more meat in it.
      Everything is fresh. The most expensive meat for 5 rubles ..
      Under the awnings and in the open area there are live, chickens, ducks, geese, goat turkeys, sheep, piglets. From small pigs to large pigs.
      The freshest eggs are chicken, duck, goose. Well, about vegetables and fruits, you can not talk, and so it is clear.
      The prices were quite moderate, I know that even Muscovites came to overstock on weekends. 150 km is not a lot by car.
      So, of course, there were no delicacies of yogurt and jamon, but there was tasty, fresh and healthy food.
      1. Mstivoy
        Mstivoy 9 November 2017 09: 38 New
        +2
        I’ll tell you a secret, those who say that everything was right and those who say that there was nothing right, how can this be? you ask ... Easy. The thing is that the country's leadership is sitting in two big cities, these are Moscow and St. Petersburg, and so it was in them that, from some time, products began to disappear, which caused dissatisfaction of citizens, and since these cities were always millionaires, the effect was corresponding.
  7. inkass_98
    inkass_98 7 November 2017 07: 03 New
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    The Revolution has a beginning, the Revolution has no end! It is, of course, Trotskyism, but essentially true.
    All the holiday!
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 7 November 2017 07: 04 New
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      Add a little more.
  8. Masya masya
    Masya masya 7 November 2017 07: 05 New
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    Hurray, comrades !!! love
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 7 November 2017 07: 33 New
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      We are blacksmiths, and our spirit is young
      We forge the keys of happiness.
      Rise higher, our heavy hammer
      In steel breasts stronger than knock, knock, knock!

      We forge a bright path to the people,
      Free way for everyone
      And for the coveted freedom
      We all fought and die, die, die!

      We are the blacksmiths of the sweet Homeland,
      We only want the best
      And it’s not without reason that we are wasting our strength
      No wonder hammering, knocking, knocking!

      And after every hit
      The darkness is thinning, oppression is weakening,
      And across the fields of the globe
      The exhausted people get up, get up, get up!
    2. novel66
      novel66 7 November 2017 09: 23 New
      11
      so, urgently for 100 drinks and a demonstration !! big ones! love
  9. Nix1986
    Nix1986 7 November 2017 07: 12 New
    21
    You can relate differently to the outcome of the revolution, I don’t like everything at all, but I’m very sure of one thing - if there hadn’t been a revolution, if there hadn’t been such a development of heavy industry after that, we would have lost the WWII, which means the revolution and the USSR at least saved Russia and many other countries.
  10. freddyk
    freddyk 7 November 2017 07: 43 New
    +9
    And I would like to remember how many best people died, how much blood was shed by our ancestors for a bright future, and how easily we are talking about .... whether. And so with the holiday, of course
    1. FID
      FID 7 November 2017 08: 34 New
      +6
      Quote: freddyk
      . And so with the holiday, of course

      I apologize, but you need to put commas .... And so, ....
  11. Alex66
    Alex66 7 November 2017 08: 03 New
    +8
    They say that they learn from mistakes, only our elite, especially the younger ones, did not study in the Soviet school, and therefore is forced to repeat the lesson learned lesson of October. It is very clear the desire to get rich by any means, deceit, robbery (there is no such crime that capital will not go with ???% profit), but forgetting about those who create these wealth, considering them cattle, we will repeat the situation before the revolution. Degradation will not lead to anything good, there will be no one to create a new economic structure, where those who will have an educated, healthy society that will be able to solve the tasks and not consume everything indiscriminately will benefit.
  12. parusnik
    parusnik 7 November 2017 08: 04 New
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    Today, on the day of the 100th anniversary of the October Revolution, which for a long time bore the official name "Great"
    .. Wore, wears and will wear ... Happy holiday!
  13. EvgNik
    EvgNik 7 November 2017 08: 04 New
    21
    Happy holiday guys! Yes, and all the opponents of this holiday went to FIG!
    Diana Ilyin happy birthday! love
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 7 November 2017 08: 22 New
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      Quote: EvgNik
      Yes, and all the opponents of this holiday went to FIG!

      good I agree to all 200%!

      Quote: EvgNik
      Diana Ilyin happy birthday! love

      I am joining! love love love
      1. FID
        FID 7 November 2017 08: 37 New
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        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Diana Ilyin happy birthday!

        Fully and proportionately! True, I am not familiar with Diana, but ... May you always be 18!
        1. ID90
          ID90 7 November 2017 13: 38 New
          11
          paradox.
          but the topic really united everyone on the forum.
          minimum srach.
          then not everything is lost in our country.
          1. gladcu2
            gladcu2 8 November 2017 00: 43 New
            +2
            Opponents were afraid to come here.

            There is no leader, no association.
            The idle chatter of a problem cannot solve.
            1. Ulan
              Ulan 8 November 2017 18: 53 New
              +2
              But on the Km forum there are plenty of them. Rats ran in. But anyway, a minority.
              1. ID90
                ID90 8 November 2017 20: 02 New
                0
                Quote: Ulan
                But on the Km forum there are plenty of them. Rats ran in. But anyway, a minority.

                and what kind of forum is this?
                1. Ulan
                  Ulan 8 November 2017 20: 08 New
                  +1
                  Km.ru - there are often reprinted articles from VO. Unfortunately, no registration, which allows some moral monsters to write under other people's nicknames.
                  Moderators do not stop this. I often wrote there before, when registration was, when canceled, I left.
                  Often grazed ukrotrolls from Poroshenko's agitprop.
      2. EvgNik
        EvgNik 7 November 2017 09: 14 New
        +8
        That's right, Diana loves roses!
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 7 November 2017 09: 21 New
          +6
          I know, Eugene. hi
        2. novel66
          novel66 7 November 2017 09: 25 New
          10
          then you need to add! Diana is for you love love love love love
          1. EvgNik
            EvgNik 7 November 2017 12: 54 New
            +6
            THANKS to everyone from Diana!
            1. EvgNik
              EvgNik 7 November 2017 13: 14 New
              13
              And from Diana:
              Dear forum users, comrades-in-arms and sister-cities, I sincerely thank you for the kind words addressed to me, for what you remember! Thank you for the congratulations on your birthday and for all those wishes that I directly or indirectly convey from you. I did not know that I have so many friends on VO.
              Congratulations to all sympathizers on the occasion of the Centenary Day of the Great October Socialist Revolution! I believe that the ideas of socialism will not die, and perhaps we will still build a just society in the country of the USSR 2.0!
              A huge HELLO to all friends and associates love love love love love love love and wishes for all the best! I want to say to all enemies - DO NOT WAIT ...
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 7 November 2017 16: 20 New
      +4
      Diana Ilyin happy birthday!
      love ... And my congratulations! love
  14. AleBors
    AleBors 7 November 2017 08: 40 New
    13
    Happy holiday to everyone who thinks so! To change something, you need to make a revolution in your mind first ...
  15. NordOst16
    NordOst16 7 November 2017 08: 48 New
    +2
    I did not live under the USSR, but according to the stories of my parents and relatives, I had a rather contradictory assessment. And if you take into account the fact that people usually forget the bad, then I'm glad that I do not live with advice.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 7 November 2017 09: 42 New
      12
      Quote: NordOst16
      I did not live under the USSR, but according to the stories of my parents and relatives, I had a rather contradictory assessment. And if you take into account the fact that people usually forget the bad, then I'm glad that I do not live with advice.

      Yes, on the contrary, our authorities only remember the bad, and miss the good. Therefore, those in power are glad that you have such an opinion! Yesterday, according to the zombie man, how much nasty things about the revolution were poured onto the heads of such here.
      Happy holiday, comrades! The great moments of our common history must not be forgotten, as if no one wanted to. The Great October Revolution, in spite of the whole tragic situation, was the starting point of reference for the greatest socialist nation-state in the world. And for the first time in its history, Russia has come to first place in the world! There has never been anything like it.
      1. NordOst16
        NordOst16 7 November 2017 10: 31 New
        +1
        But how much blood was shed during and after the revolution? I believe that you should not forget the positive aspects, but do not hush up or downplay the crimes. Although the story is written by kings.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 7 November 2017 10: 40 New
          13
          Quote: NordOst16
          But how much blood was shed during and after the revolution?

          Did only the Bolsheviks shed blood? Let's make an assumption, and imagine that there would be no Bolsheviks. Wouldn't there be a bloody First World War in this case? Wouldn't there be the February Revolution, and then the Civil War? The Bolsheviks were in those conditions, and won. And the people accepted their undertakings. Supported. And our Motherland became the first in the world.
          1. NordOst16
            NordOst16 7 November 2017 10: 51 New
            0
            Well, about the first in the world, I would argue. The standard of living in the post-war USA was still higher. Yes, and Europe pulled up to 80m. The Japs in the mid-80s already showed gigantic growth in the economy. About the fact that they killed - yes, but still it is one thing when you fight an enemy from another country, and another when you destroy your own population. Collectivization, for example, brought quite a bit of grief. And comrade Tukhochevsky used chemical weapons against disgruntled peasants. I don’t want to demonize the Soviet government, but I really don’t like it when people don’t even want to hear anything about something wrong in the USSR.
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 7 November 2017 11: 17 New
              12
              Quote: NordOst16
              Well, about the first in the world, I would argue.

              Well, well, the USSR was first or second, shared the first and second place with the USA, for which half the world worked. The USSR itself fed other countries, tore off from itself. Maybe it was not quite right.
              Quote: NordOst16
              The standard of living in the post-war USA was still higher. Yes, and Europe pulled up to 80m. Japs

              And now the standard of living in capitalist Russia is even lower! We are at the bottom, according to various ratings. You can choose any one to your taste! Russia with its 30 million beggars is somewhere in the 60th place, next to Vietnam and Indonesia. And the USSR, in the 70s of the last century, according to UN reports, the USSR was among the top ten countries in terms of living standards. But neither need to compare for direct life this hour in the world and what happened 40 years ago. This would not be very correct, because the world is developing. Food technologies are developing, various equipment and machines are becoming more accessible to everyone ... A more accurate comparison is when at the same time, and between other countries.
              Quote: NordOst16
              Collectivization, for example, brought quite a bit of grief. And comrade Tukhochevsky used chemical weapons against disgruntled peasants.

              Yes, unfortunately there were excesses. No one justifies this. There are no minuses, in no case. I am sure many negative things could have been avoided.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 7 November 2017 12: 24 New
                +9
                NordOst16
                Well, about the first in the world, I would argue. The standard of living in the post-war USA was still higher. Yes, and Europe pulled up to 80m. The Japs in the mid-80s already showed gigantic growth in the economy.
                And who profited from WWII and WWII? Isn't it the USA? Have these world wars been fought in the United States? Was anything destroyed in the USA ?! Not! Did the USSR really have its own colonies in the world? Also no!
                And Z0 million, the citizens of a country that the USSR has lost! And how many Soviet people were left with disabilities of WWI, the Civil War and WWII!
                And comrade Tukhochevsky used chemical weapons against disgruntled peasants.
                So then they shot him as an enemy of the people!
                I don’t want to demonize the Soviet government, but I really don’t like it when people don’t even want to hear anything about something wrong in the USSR.
                In the CPSU (b) there were two opposing trends: Trotskyites-Zinovievists and Stalinists. You need to understand for yourself about which one you are talking about and how they differed from each other!
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              3. SERGUS
                SERGUS 7 November 2017 16: 13 New
                +3
                Quote: Stas157
                Food Technology Develops

                About products, too, not everything is so simple, maybe in the Union there was not always and not everywhere sausage, but it was sausage! If you remove all this genetically modified dregs from the shelves now, empty shelves will remain. Maybe I’m exaggerating, well, the fact that those products were really a natural fact, and not that these American legs from which you then become like pigtail laughing
                1. NordOst16
                  NordOst16 7 November 2017 23: 57 New
                  0
                  But about the harm of GMOs, I would argue with you (because I think that this is the future of agriculture). For there is no conclusive evidence of harm at the moment (although it is worth adding that the opposite is also not proven).
                  And if logically sorted out, then the introduction of new genes into the body:
                  1) it clearly cannot somehow harm the genetic material of a person simply because the only ones who indulge in editing DNA, at least in mammals (like there are bacteria that can modify the genetic material of plant cells), are viruses. And these guys carry a very extensive arsenal of devices for introducing their genetic material. After all, free dna (or rna) have the strongest immunogenicity.
                  2) the only thing that can potentially be harmful is the product itself (protein) which is synthesized from a new sequence. But this is no longer the problem of the technology itself, but the problem of hand-shaking employees.

                  Yes, and if you look carefully, the entire arsenal of selection that has been addressed to mankind since time immemorial is also the selection of the right individuals with useful mutations. Modern technologies help to significantly accelerate this process and make something more interesting. So for now it’s not worth driving to GMOs (it’s just that this topic has been greatly inflated by dishonest journalists) until there is clear evidence. How much scream was from monosodium glutamate, and then it turned out that salt is superior to glutamate in toxicity.
                  1. SERGUS
                    SERGUS 11 November 2017 14: 45 New
                    0
                    Quote: NordOst16
                    For there is no conclusive evidence of harm at the moment (although it is worth adding that the opposite is also not proven).

                    This is something I know, but still, when I hold two sticks of sausage in my hands, I make a choice in favor of the one where there are fewer than any "E" and "E". Yes, and try the "Bush leg" and a leg of homemade, rustic chicken - a completely different taste.
                    1. NordOst16
                      NordOst16 11 November 2017 17: 42 New
                      0
                      Shit is one thing industrial, and another quality product from the factory.
                      I can give a finca as an example
            2. SERGUS
              SERGUS 7 November 2017 13: 56 New
              +6
              Quote: NordOst16
              Collectivization, for example, brought quite a bit of grief.

              It brought quite a bit of grief because many peasants refused to accept new laws, let’s say so, and when you do not comply with the laws, punishment follows, and if there is no punishment for not fulfilling the law, then nobody will obey it and there will be even greater chaos.
              Quote: NordOst16
              And comrade Tukhochevsky used chemical weapons against disgruntled peasants.

              Well, I'm sorry, there was a civil war, and in the war, as you know, all means are good; Yes, some went too far, but if there are teachers who beat children, this does not mean that all teachers are now bad.
              Quote: NordOst16
              I don’t want to demonize the Soviet government, but I really don’t like it when people don’t even want to hear anything about something wrong in the USSR.

              The USSR would not be without flaws, but there is nothing perfect in the world, well, if only God. The Bolsheviks are not ideal either, but they inspire respect from me only because they had a really high goal - to build a society of social justice, and not their own profit and money, power and other money. Plus, a lot has really been done and has been done, i.e. it was not empty verbiage.
            3. gm9019
              gm9019 7 November 2017 16: 44 New
              +3
              NordOst16 ... how can one talk about global problems without being competent, I don’t understand! TukhаChevsky, a lot = a lot (written together), etc. You did not live in the USSR, and you are not trained in literacy, and, perhaps, there are a lot more. Somewhere they grabbed something upstairs without delving into it, and you already managed to rinse your brains.
              Yes, there were flaws, but these were separate flaws. They wrote about them, they did not keep silent about them, they fought with them, although not always successfully and not always honestly. Sometimes, for example, it was enough to call Raykom, complain about communal services and after a couple of hours there was no problem.
              But now it’s a complete hopeless darkness and you only fight with it personally, to the best of your abilities and capabilities. A state that has been worked out for 45 years indifferently looks down upon your problems ...
              It seems to me that this is wrong.
              1. NordOst16
                NordOst16 8 November 2017 00: 08 New
                0
                I have had problems with grammar since the second grade, and now I have it (I’ve gone to chemistry and biology more), we can say that I'm learning to read and write on the Internet. But I think that this does not stop me from throwing my brains a little.
                I do not want to say that everything was bad in the USSR, but there were quite a few minuses. For example, the moment when they wrote a denunciation to my grandmother (but she was friends with the person who works with the denunciations (he informed her about this), though it was about 70. My father served and at the end of the USSR he received 500 rubles. But still I heard about the problems with getting my own phone to the apartment, and the fact that things were of good quality or the products had to be taken out from under the floor.Yes, people always had full refrigerators, but in the same Europe, Japosi it was much earlier. The people could travel the world calmly (maybe this is not very important for you, but for me it’s very important to look at the world, go to the EU, the USA, just because it’s interesting).
                Well, okay, I think it's worth ending this dialogue because our points of view are quite different.
            4. Midshipman
              Midshipman 7 November 2017 20: 04 New
              +1
              All of them pulled themselves up at the cost of becoming colonies. And the USSR, being behind the economic iron curtain, was the first in space. And this is not only Gagarin, but also automatic stations on the moon and on Mars and Venus. And besides this, there were a lot of things.
        2. japs
          japs 7 November 2017 16: 44 New
          +7
          Have you decided to add your spoon of guano in honor of the holiday? Yesterday there was one such "animated". Go, friends, to the coveted west and eat "free tolerant values" in all your holes! If VO and the forum do not like, that is, for all of you, the "Censor", etc.
        3. Midshipman
          Midshipman 7 November 2017 20: 08 New
          0
          In addition to the Bolsheviks, blood bandits shed blood together with 14 intervention countries. If you do not know, then Russia was already divided between England, Japan, the United States and others, and only the Bolshevik pressure could stop and reverse the deriban of Russia.
          1. Midshipman
            Midshipman 7 November 2017 20: 12 New
            +2
            I will add. Incidentally, the Bolsheviks, contrary to popular belief, did not overthrow the tsar - they forced the tsar to abdicate and were arrested by the tsarist generals. The Bolsheviks overthrew the provisional liberal government, in which I sincerely agree with them.
    2. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 9 November 2017 11: 21 New
      +1
      Born in 1993 98th year, "shock therapy" is already remembered. And I heard stories about the Soviet era from my parents. I read a lot about it. And I REALLY regret that this time has passed ...
  16. solzh
    solzh 7 November 2017 09: 20 New
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    I heartily congratulate you on the 100th anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution! Despite the destruction of our country, the USSR, the October Revolution, is a significant event in world history. Thanks to the revolution, our country of the herd is a great country with a powerful economy, our country was the first in the history of the world to achieve free education and free medical care. In our country, the man for the first time received the right to work and rest. Our country is the first byd in space. It’s not possible to list all the achievements. The Great October Socialist Revolution is greeting!
  17. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 7 November 2017 09: 27 New
    10
    The Great October Socialist Revolution allowed Russia to make a breakthrough from plow to space and the possession of atomic energy making it a world leader. She gave enormous social benefits to the working people. I will not list them, and so everyone knows. Recall about housing. The young specialist who came to me was immediately given a small family. Three gave an apartment. Is this possible now?
    1. NordOst16
      NordOst16 7 November 2017 10: 52 New
      +1
      But collectivization has brought how much grief? I think it's worth talking about all the pages of the story. After all, it was done, along with good, and many troubles.
      1. solzh
        solzh 7 November 2017 11: 48 New
        +5
        And what is wrong with collectivization?
        1. NordOst16
          NordOst16 7 November 2017 11: 54 New
          0
          Well, at least hunger
          1. solzh
            solzh 7 November 2017 12: 27 New
            +7
            I do not quite agree with you. The famine was not caused by the collectivization that began, if I was not mistaken in 1927-1929, and not by the harvest in 1932. There is a book by Ustin Chashikhin, The Exposure of Slander against the USSR, is very interesting. I live in Ulyanovsk (the birthplace of Lenin), so my ancestors who were born at the beginning of the 20th century, I found my great-grandfather, he served in the famous Inzenskaya division that later became the Sivash, said that there was no hunger, there were problems with the supply of cities. And I believe not in official historiography in this matter, but in my great-grandfather, he was only 31 years old at that time.
            1. NordOst16
              NordOst16 7 November 2017 12: 46 New
              0
              The crop failure itself was caused by extremely large losses during the cultivation, harvesting and storage of grain. This was precisely the result of collectivization, with almost equal pre-war sown areas, the yield was two times less. This caused hunger.
              1. japs
                japs 7 November 2017 16: 47 New
                +6
                So say that you have such a job ....
                Fight to Butusov!
                1. Ulan
                  Ulan 8 November 2017 19: 01 New
                  +2
                  C'mon, a person generally behaves quite correctly. Well, he has doubts, well, he doesn’t understand the topic very well. Not a reason to attack him.
  18. verner1967
    verner1967 7 November 2017 09: 34 New
    12
    Happy holiday to everyone who remembers this day as a "red calendar day"!
  19. K-50
    K-50 7 November 2017 09: 38 New
    +8
    Yes Hello the Great October Socialist Revolution !!! Hooray !!! Comrades !!! laughing sad
    All republics breaking away from the USSR should pray for it. After all, without a revolution, they would never have split off. It was the Bolsheviks who began to single out individual nationalities and thereby laid a delayed mine under the foundations of the Russian state, indicated the path to national fragmentation and loss of unity of the Great Country - Russia. sad
    1. Crimea RUS
      Crimea RUS 7 November 2017 14: 40 New
      +1
      “As I said, I personally did not know anything about the transport of Lenin. But if I were asked about this, I would hardly have made any objections to this, because at that time no one could have foreseen which the unfortunate consequences were the performance of these people for Russia and all of Europe. "
      Max Hoffmann: German General and Diplomat
      1. Ulan
        Ulan 8 November 2017 19: 03 New
        +1
        Really - terrible consequences, Germany lost the Second World War.
  20. Ural resident
    Ural resident 7 November 2017 11: 06 New
    +3
    Many associate the revolution with the creation of the USSR. I do not agree. The revolution was probably the inevitable result of all the contradictions that had accumulated by that time in society - and claimed many lives. Then there was another time - not only here, but throughout the world, much was decided by force and blood. The Soviet Union was already being built by completely different people - and as a result, it began to protect human life. In any case, the ideology was peaceful.
  21. Lnglr
    Lnglr 7 November 2017 11: 17 New
    +2
    All with a great holiday!
    Interestingly, what happened 100 years ago instead of 278,279?
  22. ando_bor
    ando_bor 7 November 2017 11: 44 New
    10
    Consider me a communist today - I will celebrate.
    1. igorj 51
      igorj 51 7 November 2017 17: 35 New
      +1
      Consider me a communist today - I will celebrate.

      Thank you all for your congratulations on this great holiday. By the way, I have already celebrated ..
      PS Diana happy birthday love love love love love
  23. GUSAR
    GUSAR 7 November 2017 11: 59 New
    +2
    I want to ask all the mourners about the USSR, but where were you in August 1991?
    1. Neputin
      Neputin 7 November 2017 12: 33 New
      12
      Very good question. Answer: where everything is. By that time, we had lost the Cold War. they didn’t lose technologically or economically, although in these areas everything was not at all simple. Lost ideologically. Because the majority of the people saw a discrepancy between real life and the slogans declared by the ruling party. accordingly, a sharp rejection of this lie arose. And all this resulted in a desire for change, and not a very conscious desire, because plainly no one knew what changes were needed. here they caught us all, "bought" empty promises of improving our lives, etc., etc., etc. I don’t pay for the USSR, I pay for the achievements that were and still aren't. I pay for a free education, for the right healthcare system without mafia insurance companies, at normal prices that have not changed for decades and much more is good. And the holiday of November 7 should be celebrated. This is our story. After all, the French celebrate the day of the capture of the Bastille, although then there was nothing good for France. And the prostitution of our leaders to replace November 7 with a dubious day of national unity only says that they are afraid of the ideas of socialism, like a damn incense. And if you are afraid, then the "stigma in the gun" for sure.
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 7 November 2017 12: 56 New
        0
        Quote: Neputin
        And all this resulted in a desire for change, and not a very conscious desire

        But after all, any revolution brings chaos, blood and devastation, just any one. Some empty promises, you correctly noted, there are many examples. And what does it matter to us that the French celebrate the day of the capture of the Bastille, this is the real madness, and the capture of the fortress , and all that followed, and the present celebration itself.
      2. GUSAR
        GUSAR 7 November 2017 13: 51 New
        +3
        There is no point in arguing with you, although I am not a fan of communism, but what has come to replace him ... all that remains is to sit and nostalgia.
    2. bober1982
      bober1982 7 November 2017 12: 35 New
      +3
      Quote: GUSAR
      I want to ask all the mourners about the USSR, but where were you in August 1991?

      Party tickets burned.
      1. igorj 51
        igorj 51 7 November 2017 17: 36 New
        0
        Party tickets burned.

        Someone burned and someone not.
    3. lance
      lance 7 November 2017 12: 47 New
      +3
      listened to the songs of the liberals that the West will help us, because the CPSU leadership was preparing to seize the highest posts in the national republics under nationalist slogans, which happened as a result. I don’t even want to recall the support of a nationally minded delegation as she was eager for power.
    4. japs
      japs 7 November 2017 16: 56 New
      +5
      You, hussar, answer for yourself where you were ... Claims you are very happy to throw.
      "Socialism with a human face" was built. Now, according to Putin, we are building
      "capitalism with a human face." While we are building, bureaucrats and nouveau riche are calm for their future.
      But, something seems to me, "It’s not yet evening ..." (c)
    5. free
      free 7 November 2017 21: 38 New
      0
      Quote: GUSAR
      I want to ask all the mourners about the USSR, but where were you in August 1991?

      At that time I was still too small and did not understand anything. Throughout my whole life, the USSR was poured mud as best they could but no matter what I was faithful to the precepts of the October Revolution.
    6. free
      free 7 November 2017 21: 50 New
      0
      Quote: GUSAR
      I want to ask all the mourners about the USSR, but where were you in August 1991?

      At that time I was still too small and did not understand anything. Throughout my whole life, the USSR was poured mud as best they could but no matter what I was faithful to the precepts of the October Revolution.
  24. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 7 November 2017 13: 06 New
    +2
    “Russian liberalism is not an attack on the existing order of things, but an attack on the very essence of our things, on things themselves, not on order alone, not on Russian orders, but on Russia itself. My liberal has come to the point that he denies the very Russia, that is, its mother hates and beats. Each unfortunate and unsuccessful Russian fact excites laughter and almost delight in him. He hates folk customs, Russian history, everything. If there is an excuse for him, is it that he doesn’t understands what he is doing, and takes his hatred of Russia for the most fruitful liberalism (oh, you often meet with us a liberal who is applauded by the rest, and who, in essence, is the most ridiculous, most stupid and dangerous conservative, himself does not know that!). This hatred of Russia, not so long ago, was taken by other liberals almost as a true love of the country and boasted that they saw better than others what it should be; but now the words "love" have become more open and even to homeland "s they were ashamed, even the concept was expelled and eliminated as harmful and insignificant. This fact is true, I stand for it and ... it was necessary to tell the truth someday completely, simply and frankly; but this fact is at the same time and one that has never happened and never happened anywhere, never before, and, therefore, this fact is accidental and can pass, I agree. Such a liberal cannot be anywhere, who would hate his own country. How can we explain all this with us? Thus, as before, the fact that the Russian liberal is for the time being a non-Russian liberal; nothing more, in my opinion. "

    F.M. Dostoevsky
  25. free
    free 7 November 2017 13: 32 New
    +5
    Glory to the USSR!
  26. Radikal
    Radikal 7 November 2017 13: 37 New
    +6
    Quote: parusnik
    Today, on the day of the 100th anniversary of the October Revolution, which for a long time bore the official name "Great"
    .. Wore, wears and will wear ... Happy holiday!

    good drinks
  27. Metlik
    Metlik 7 November 2017 13: 49 New
    +7
    In the capitalist world, the people have no future. His fate is to become cannon fodder in world wars. The fate of the young is to become an illiterate, disorganized mass, dying from poverty and drugs. Few who climbed up will become cogs in the corporate profit machine. And only in the USSR even the smallest people had the right to vote in the Council of Nationalities.
    1. Ronald Reagan
      Ronald Reagan 7 November 2017 13: 54 New
      0
      All this is good in words, not in deeds. request
      1. Metlik
        Metlik 7 November 2017 19: 14 New
        +3
        A man in America killed 30 people in a church. And this happens there all the time. People live in a world of false values, and when they realize this, a breakdown occurs.
      2. CT-55_11-9009
        CT-55_11-9009 9 November 2017 11: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: Ronald Reagan
        All this is good in words, not in deeds. request

        Well then, the whole world in ... uh ... "brown substance." Lies are everywhere and in sooo much!
  28. viktorch
    viktorch 7 November 2017 13: 49 New
    +3
    all with the 100th anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution - the greatest social and economic achievement of mankind since the bourgeois revolutions of the 17th centuries.
  29. arlekin
    arlekin 7 November 2017 13: 53 New
    +5
    And on November 7 I associate not only with the demonstration.
    In our city in Soviet times on November 7 was also called "Chushkin Day." No, no, not with the aim of insulting or laughing, just that day after the demonstration there was a massive slaughter of pigs. But what, the day off, the already established frost, the meat will not spoil, and you will meet assistants at the demonstration as much as you like. And then you go through the private sector, and from all sides - the hum of blowtorches, excited voices and the smell of singed stubble. And then a feast with fresh meat ("roast"), but I have never heard a toast "for revolution".
    Here is another picture I liked:
  30. gm9019
    gm9019 7 November 2017 14: 06 New
    +6
    Congratulations to all on the 100th anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution!
    An event that gave all people on Earth a great hope for the just structure of society, for the abolition of slavery and oppression of the working man, "so that a man lives on his native land with his labor and is not in bondage!"
    The event that gave rise to our great and powerful Homeland of the USSR, gave us happiness, calm confidence in the future, Peace and Friendship between all peoples.
    Hooray, comrades! Happy Great Holiday!

  31. Crimea RUS
    Crimea RUS 7 November 2017 14: 38 New
    0
    “As I said, I personally did not know anything about the transport of Lenin. But if I were asked about this, I would hardly have made any objections to this, because at that time no one could have foreseen which the unfortunate consequences were the performance of these people for Russia and all of Europe. "
    Max Hoffmann: German General and Diplomat

    And this Lenin is still worshiped hee hee
    1. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 9 November 2017 11: 31 New
      0
      Quote: Crimea RUS
      Max Hoffmann: German General and Diplomat

      Comrade, why would the GERMAN be happy for Russia ???
  32. sirgunnyo
    sirgunnyo 7 November 2017 14: 56 New
    +9
    Congratulations on the Centenary of the Great October Socialist Revolution!

    Hurray, gentlemen, comrades !!!
  33. d ^ Amir
    d ^ Amir 7 November 2017 15: 24 New
    +9
    Dear Colleagues Soforumchane !!!!!!!!!! All a happy holiday !!!!!! All with the 100th Great October Socialist Revolution !!!!!
  34. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 7 November 2017 15: 29 New
    +9
    Congratulations on the 100 summer anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution!
    Happy Holidays, comrades!
  35. viktorch
    viktorch 7 November 2017 15: 57 New
    +1
    it’s nothing that the first damn thing is lumpy, the bourgeoisie did not immediately take feudalism
    like feudalism took over the slave system.
    the bourgeoisie did its job and briskly entered the phase of decomposition, it’s time to evolve further comrades,
    it makes no sense to count how many attempts there were, no matter how many years have passed, we must continue to try to move forward to the next step in the development of society - socialism, to try again and again.
    1. Arkady Gaidar
      Arkady Gaidar 7 November 2017 17: 28 New
      0
      Victor! So you're right about the first pancake lumpy. There is only one amendment: We are talking about the well-being and lives of our parents, our well-being and lives, and our children. It turns out our lives and well-being through w ... "thorns to the stars"))
      https://topwar.ru/128983-bolsheviki-stali-osusche
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      1. viktorch
        viktorch 7 November 2017 17: 35 New
        0
        there are no options either to go forward or go to jo-poo,
        in the 17th, it was clear to everyone, because before the ass was one step, normal people took forward,
        you propose to bring the situation to the 17th and then again overcome with a dick cloud of problems of the civil war and other things? Well, there are no problems, in the absence of an alternative - capitalism, especially colonial as in Russia, will certainly reach assholes faster than in the West, and again have to overcome it with pain and blood, are you not full?
        1. Arkady Gaidar
          Arkady Gaidar 7 November 2017 17: 48 New
          +1
          Let us first clarify that capitalism is also moving forward and does not stand still. And while in the ass is not going to go. So the first thesis, in principle, is not true.
          Actually, I haven’t offered anything yet. Socialism, like capitalism, has its drawbacks, and in some places very significant.
          If you are interested in my opinion, I think it is worth making accurate scientific calculations whether communism is possible (so far it is only a religion), socialism with its planned economy, or is it still some kind of mix, with a strong law enforcement system, where for any attempt to steal from the people and States, they beat so that the skin itself slazil. I rather for the latter - for a strong state, with a strong police system.
          1. viktorch
            viktorch 7 November 2017 18: 00 New
            0
            for fascism? national corporation - we know we know, one of the forms of development of capitalism
            1. Arkady Gaidar
              Arkady Gaidar 7 November 2017 18: 16 New
              +1
              What is fascism? I didn’t even say a word for him. Although, if the Italian model, then probably not the worst system. In any case, the standard of living of citizens has always surpassed the socialist system.
              I rather, for a strong police state, within the framework of the existing value system.
              1. free
                free 7 November 2017 21: 54 New
                0
                Are you Arkady? Or are you just Gaidar?
                1. Arkady Gaidar
                  Arkady Gaidar 7 November 2017 22: 24 New
                  +1
                  Why are you interested, are you by any chance not from the police? or just sex? laughing
                  1. free
                    free 9 November 2017 09: 04 New
                    0
                    Quote: Arkady Gaidar
                    Why are you interested, are you by any chance not from the police? or just sex? laughing

                    So you are Egor! Like Egor Gaidar, did not recognize you in makeup!
                    1. Arkady Gaidar
                      Arkady Gaidar 9 November 2017 10: 30 New
                      0
                      Read below. Under the photo of the icon "100 years of the October Revolution." When there is nothing to answer on the case, all that remains is to smile stupidly tongue
                      1. free
                        free 9 November 2017 14: 20 New
                        0
                        Quote: Arkady Gaidar
                        Read below. Under the photo of the icon "100 years of the October Revolution." When there is nothing to answer on the case, all that remains is to smile stupidly tongue

                        Right Egor, do not be shy. But the badges and inscriptions are not needed, I read your comments.
    2. Essex62
      Essex62 7 November 2017 17: 42 New
      +3
      The capitalist is a bloodsucker now smarter than 100 years ago. The processing of the population, youth in the first place, is the most powerful. Then the gap of ideologies was between feudalism (obsolyutnaya monarchy) and the born aligarhat. WWI became a catalyst, a unique situation arose, essentially a “fork.” It was resolved by a unique case in the history of mankind - the creation of a society of EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES and SOCIAL JUSTICE after terrible wars and devastation (any boy from the backwoods could become an academician or a diplomat, if any talent and hard work)
      Today is a sad holiday. There is almost no one to rely on in the current situation and there is no revolutionary situation. It may arise as a result of another, serious war with an external aggressor, but one does not even want to think about it. We will leave and the mucking gopot will erase from the consciousness of the next generations the very concept of social justice and national unity. The last chance history gave at 93 m, and it was profiled.
      And yet I believe, like you dear forum users, such an event as the Great October Socialist Revolution will live for centuries and will still inspire those who are not indifferent to accomplishments.
      1. Arkady Gaidar
        Arkady Gaidar 7 November 2017 18: 36 New
        +1
        laughing About the society of social justice, read here:
        https://topwar.ru/128983-bolsheviki-stali-osusche
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        And about the Great October Revolution, here:
        https://topwar.ru/128983-bolsheviki-stali-osusche
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        About observance of civil rights and human rights, here:
        https://topwar.ru/128983-bolsheviki-stali-osusche
        stvlyat-novyy-proekt-razvitiya-spasaya-ne-tolko-r
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        And, if you build on your opinion about years and revolutionary situations, it turns out that the people are a herd that is not able to independently change its future, but only occasionally using critical moments of society, for sharp turns and transition to something new))
  36. Referent
    Referent 7 November 2017 16: 59 New
    +5
    All with the holiday of the Great October Socialist Revolution!
  37. Arkady Gaidar
    Arkady Gaidar 7 November 2017 17: 21 New
    +1
    I agree with the author on all 100%. Some of the foam at the mouth prove the great October Revolution, others about the great tragic revolution. And they’re talking about one thing.
    The only thing I will add is that since the Communists were in power in the USSR, then they dragged this country! And the rest is just a story))
    https://topwar.ru/128983-bolsheviki-stali-osusche
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  38. bsk_una
    bsk_una 7 November 2017 18: 20 New
    +2
    The state passed by this major anniversary. No wonder! As Chubais said, we wanted to crush the USSR. And today, the government has proved that the USSR is completely crushed, only people are still not all crushed. And most importantly: the country has become an Ivan, not remembering kinship. The rest is think!
  39. naGua
    naGua 7 November 2017 18: 37 New
    +3
    I join in the congratulations on the Great Holiday. Moreover, such a round date. 100th anniversary! Not a joke. He deliberately did not celebrate and did not congratulate anyone on this, for his far-fetched, officialdom. And today, dear friends, everything is as it should be: a festive table, a pennant on the wall, with commemorative badges, from demonstrations in the Leningrad and October districts of Moscow and a good mood! And then for the soul, or "Lenin in October", or "Man with a gun." And from the bottom of my heart I congratulate all like-minded people, comrades and friends! Happy Great October Socialist Revolution! Happy holiday friends!
  40. bsk_una
    bsk_una 7 November 2017 19: 41 New
    0
    Why is there not a word about drunken Yeltsin? This drunk is worse than Gorbachev's miscarriage. Things must be called by their proper names!
    1. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 9 November 2017 11: 34 New
      0
      Why dirty the holiday with such dirty swearing as this?
      Quote: bsk_una
      drunk yeltsin

      Quote: bsk_una
      gorbachev
  41. Mstivoy
    Mstivoy 7 November 2017 20: 14 New
    +1
    Do not flatter yourself at the expense of the “Great October Socialist Revolution”, the real revolution occurred only after Trotsky was removed from all posts and sent into exile, and until that moment, the revolution personified only the transfer of power from the tsar to the interim government, and from the provisional government at the hands of the workers to the Jewish Bolshevik party, which organized terror mainly of the Russian population ... So I would have thought twice what to call the October Revolution a ticket to a happy childhood, as some here do ... and yet, the ideals of the USSR ceased to exist in the 1927rd year, immediately as Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin passed away, everything else that was after him under the banners of the USSR was only socialist capitalism, and the "communists" finally collapsed the USSR. With the same success, one can celebrate the 53th anniversary of the First World War, which gave impetus to the February Revolution, and after that to the October Revolution. Both versions of the February and October revolutions were a win-win for those who were going to seize power in Russia, the mistake came only with the fact that the purges of Gus revolutionaries began in connection with their cannibalistic ambitions.
  42. Zacvasetskiy
    Zacvasetskiy 7 November 2017 20: 18 New
    0
    Some krasnodera gathered?!?! belay
    1. Mstivoy
      Mstivoy 7 November 2017 20: 36 New
      +1
      The ideas of socialism are the only right ideas for humanity and there is no alternative to it, because capitalism is the germ of fascism.
  43. DPN
    DPN 7 November 2017 21: 17 New
    +1
    With the Day of the Great October Revolution, with a holiday of health to all and hope for a better life without Russian capitalists.
    And yet I.V. Stalin was right when he changed the top with him, she did not have time to rot.
  44. VVK_VDB
    VVK_VDB 7 November 2017 22: 53 New
    +3
    Today (November 7), like 1996, it smelled of all the TV channels. Crowds of crazy liberals trampled on the topic of revolution. Do not be surprised that again for the money. Belatedly, but I join.
  45. NordOst16
    NordOst16 7 November 2017 23: 35 New
    0
    Quote: SERGUS
    It brought quite a bit of grief because many peasants refused to accept new laws, let’s say so, and when you do not comply with the laws, punishment follows, and if there is no punishment for not fulfilling the law, then nobody will obey it and there will be even greater chaos.

    Well, yes, of course, I already saw how happy the peasants were when the power came and said that what was their property was rightfully becoming common (i.e. no one). I would also be extremely unhappy here. Yes, and about the advice of the poor do not forget where they went, for the most part, parasites and lovers to take away someone else's.
    Quote: SERGUS
    Well, I'm sorry, there was a civil war, and in the war, as you know, all means are good; Yes, some went too far, but if there are teachers who beat children, this does not mean that all teachers are now bad.

    War is war, it is indisputable, but to use such terrible weapons against peasants (against their own people) (I don’t think that Comrade Tukhachevsky did not know how to die from these mixtures) - this is beyond my understanding. After all, recently they fought against the tsar, the enslaver of peoples and so on, maybe I don’t understand something.
    Quote: SERGUS
    The USSR would not be without flaws, but there is nothing perfect in the world, well, if only God. The Bolsheviks are not ideal either, but they inspire respect from me only because they had a really high goal - to build a society of social justice, and not their own profit and money, power and other money. Plus, a lot has really been done and has been done, i.e. it was not empty verbiage.

    Yes, the idea was great, but it was mired (as, unfortunately, often happens) in civil strife and the struggle for power.
    In the end, I would like to say what happened - it was and never will be back and it is necessary to build a bright future and, what I consider the most important, to put in the first place the interests of citizens and not to pursue a bright future (which did not come), but to try make it here and now.
    And yes, many, after my lines, believe that I am a henchman of bulk (choose what you like best), but still it saddens me sometimes))) But still I wanted to live in rich Russia, in a state for citizens, and not vice versa. I don’t know how to express all my conflicting thoughts (a mixture of hope and disappointment)))
    1. VVK_VDB
      VVK_VDB 8 November 2017 00: 08 New
      +3
      Decide on the "interests of citizens", and you will certainly find yourself on one side or another of the barricades.
  46. regsSSSR
    regsSSSR 8 November 2017 04: 30 New
    +1
    On November 7, 1917, the Great October Socialist Revolution took place.

    November 7th is not only our holiday, it is a holiday of all mankind.

    For November 7th is the main social breakthrough in the history of mankind.

    Without November 7, we would not have had May 9, and we would not have had April 12 — we ourselves would not have been and Russia would not have been either.

    But we, dear fellow countrymen, almost all the conquests of November 7 stupidly and mediocrely shit.

    Nevertheless, a happy holiday!

    Do not betray your ancestors.
    https://oper.ru/news/read.php?t=1051619867



  47. cedar
    cedar 8 November 2017 05: 12 New
    +1
    We see at the root of the Great October Revolution, dear ...

    "... Even in ancient times, among the people for the first time we shouted the words:" freedom, equality, fraternity ", the words repeated so many times since then by the unconscious parrots that have flown everywhere on these baits with which they carried away the welfare of the world, true freedom individuals who were so protected from the pressure of the crowd, supposedly clever, intelligent goyim did not understand the abstractness of the spoken words, did not notice the contradiction of their meaning and correspondence from each other, did not see that there was no equality in nature, there could be freedom, which nature itself established the inequality of minds, characters and abilities, as well as the subordination of its laws, did not judge that the crowd is blind power, that the upstarts chosen from it for governance are blind in relation to politics, and that the initiate is even a genius , he won’t understand anything in politics - all this was forgotten by the goyim; and meanwhile, dynastic rule was based on this: the father conveyed to his son knowledge of the course of political affairs, so that No one knew him except the members of the dynasty, and could not give out his secrets to the ruled people. Over time, the meaning of the dynastic transfer of the true state of affairs of politics was lost, which served to the success of our business.

    In all parts of the world, the words “freedom, equality, fraternity” put into our ranks through our strong agents entire legions that enthusiastically carried our banners. Meanwhile, these words were worms that undermined the welfare of the gentiles, destroying everywhere peace, tranquility, solidarity, destroying all the foundations of the states. You will see later that this served to our triumph: this gave us the opportunity, by the way, to achieve the most important trump card in our hands - the destruction of privileges, in other words, the very essence of the goy aristocracy, which was the only defense against us of peoples and countries. On the ruins of a natural and tribal aristocracy, we placed the aristocracy of our intelligentsia at the head of everything, money. The censorship of this new aristocracy we have established in wealth, dependent on us, and in science, driven by our sages ... "

    "The minutes of the meeting of the Zion of the wise. Protocol No. 1."
    1. Mstivoy
      Mstivoy 8 November 2017 07: 00 New
      +1
      About this I also spoke in my post above ... Slogans remain slogans and they become nothing more with the passage of time.
  48. Glory60
    Glory60 8 November 2017 09: 34 New
    +1
    Happy Great October Socialist Revolution Day! I believe that November 7 should remain a holiday. The French still celebrate Bastille Day. Although during the French Revolution, blood, so to speak "per capita," was spilled no less, if not more, than during the Civil War in Russia. And the final reconciliation will come, apparently, when the generation that grew up under the Soviet regime leaves.
  49. Old military officer
    Old military officer 9 November 2017 14: 42 New
    +1
    Long live Russia, the country of the Great October Socialist Revolution, which showed the whole world the path to a just society! Let our path be interrupted, but it is temporary, it will pass. The revolution will revive and win, but this time not only in Russia.
  50. Old military officer
    Old military officer 9 November 2017 14: 52 New
    +1
    Quote: bsk_una
    The state passed by this major anniversary. And most importantly: the country has become an Ivan, not remembering kinship. The rest is think!

    No matter how much the “friends of the people” would like this, Russia did not become Ivan, who does not remember kinship. No matter how the liberal "scientists and experts" of all stripes turn around on the TV screens, there isn’t that. Otherwise, why spend so much money, time and effort on all this slander on all channels. There is none of this, and I dare hope it will not.