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The President proposes to give Rosgvardiyu new powers

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Russian President Vladimir Putin introduced a bill to the State Duma, according to which Rosgvardia is authorized to ensure the security of top officials of the subjects of the Russian Federation; The corresponding measure is taken by the decision of the head of state.


Amendments proposed to make the existing federal law "On the troops of the National Guard of the Russian Federation." The text of the draft law is posted on Monday in the database of the lower house of the Russian parliament.

The President proposes to give Rosgvardiyu new powers


The draft law establishes that the security of senior officials of the subjects of the Russian Federation (heads of the highest executive bodies of the state authorities of the subjects of the Russian Federation) and other persons will be carried out in a manner approved by the president. At the same time, the security of the heads of regions "is supposed to be carried out exclusively on a contractual basis, and other persons, as a rule, on a contractual basis, unless otherwise decided by the President of the Russian Federation," is specified in the accompanying materials.

It is assumed that the law will come into force upon the expiration of 180 days after its official publication.

The head of state appointed the deputy director of the Rosgvardi - commander-in-chief of the troops of the National Guard of the Russian Federation Sergey Lebedev as his official representative when the bill was considered by the chambers of the Federal Assembly. The government’s conclusion on the draft law states that the cabinet supports this legislative initiative. The accompanying materials also clarify that its implementation will not require additional allocations from the federal budget, Interfax-AVN reports.
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  1. assa67
    assa67 6 November 2017 10: 33
    11
    somehow blurry .... i.e. FSO functions will be transferred to the Russian Guard .... but the point? ... the structure worked. If not bad, why reform? Would you comb the top
    1. The black
      The black 6 November 2017 10: 36
      22
      Looks like the police will soon be only grannies selling seeds fine and family scandals to deal with bully
      .those. FSO functions will be transferred to the Russian Guard .... but what's the point?
      But did the FSO protect the top officials of the SUBJECTS of the Russian Federation?
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN 6 November 2017 10: 52
        +4
        Quote: Black
        Looks like the police will soon be only grannies selling seeds fine and family scandals to deal with

        The answer is in the article.
        and other persons will be carried out in the manner approved by the president. At the same time, ensuring the security of the heads of regions "is supposed to be carried out exclusively on a contractual basis, and other persons, as a rule, on a contractual basis,
        So it is possible that the contractual basis after the election may turn out to be self-financing ... request laughing
        PS: I’m sorry, I didn’t notice that you are talking about the police, and I'm talking about the Russian Guard. hi
        1. Felix99
          Felix99 6 November 2017 11: 36
          +4
          The structure of the Rosguard already includes the GSO - the State Security Service - a unit that was part of the Police.
          1. svp67
            svp67 6 November 2017 15: 02
            +2
            Quote: Felix99
            The structure of the Rosguard already includes the GSO - the State Security Service - a unit that was part of the Police.

            Have you accidentally fooled Ukraine? There is no such structure in the Russian Guard
            1. Oden280
              Oden280 6 November 2017 16: 34
              +3
              As part of the Russian Guard, there is an extra-departmental security service, which was also involved in the protection of state institutions and state banks. Now, apparently, the bureaucrat’s guards will also be hanged on her.
              1. BARKHAN
                BARKHAN 6 November 2017 17: 45
                +6
                Quote: Oden280
                Now, apparently, the bureaucrat’s guards will also be hanged at her.

                It seems to me that everything has been conceived for the sake of it. Protection of the breadwinners' fathers from, so to speak, the grateful Russian people.
                1. Oden280
                  Oden280 7 November 2017 09: 00
                  +1
                  If private security will do this, then it's like a dead poultice. VV did not do this when they were not engaged in; OMON, SOBR did not transfer such work to the spirit. Rather, it is the legalization of flashing lights.
                2. Felix99
                  Felix99 15 November 2017 09: 43
                  0
                  This refers to the function of the state in principle. Any state has such functions. No matter how the state changes, it will have a coercive apparatus.
      2. EvgNik
        EvgNik 6 November 2017 12: 57
        11
        Quote: Black
        Looks like the police will soon be only grannies

        What did she do before that? Everyone in the city knows who sells moonshine, alcohol and drugs.
        And they don’t know! They themselves go for moonshine and keep the roof!
        1. igorka357
          igorka357 7 November 2017 07: 50
          +2
          Where do you live, in which city? In Dyrkopritupinsk? Don’t bring rubbish, everyone knows and they themselves go for moonshine!
      3. demo
        demo 6 November 2017 13: 20
        +2
        The protection of the heads of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation is carried out by the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
        Each to the best of his competence.
        1. To be or not to be
          To be or not to be 6 November 2017 15: 00
          11
          Article 3 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation states:
          1. The bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people.
          2. The people exercise their power directly, as well as through government bodies and local governments.

          Source: http://constitutionrf.ru/rzd-1/gl-1/st-3-krf
          From whom are the servants of the people fenced off ???
          Maybe the country needs a legal and real order ??
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        2. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 6 November 2017 23: 04
          14
          The coolest thing is that in the same Europe, officials ride bicycles to work and no one guards them.
          But all officials are afraid of someone. Why the hell do I need such power, which is afraid of its own people ?!
          1. igorka357
            igorka357 7 November 2017 07: 52
            +2
            Talk with Catalonia ... and sharpen the cutting edge before you bring nonsense ... on bicycles ... huh .. wink ! And some stupid person to you for frank delirium plus blurted out!
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 7 November 2017 08: 01
              +5
              Quote: igorka357
              before talking nonsense ... on bicycles ... huh.

              Well, let's say that carrying nonsense is your credo.
              I have been to Europe and saw how employees on bikes come to the local municipality!
              Quote: igorka357
              And some stupid person to you for frank delirium plus blurted out!

              You have unreasonably high self-esteem! yes
              Quote: igorka357
              Talk with Catalonia .. and sharpen the cutting edge

              And with which bolt is Catalonia here? request
              What did you want to say? what
            2. EvgNik
              EvgNik 7 November 2017 10: 01
              +2
              Quote: igorka357
              And some stupid person to you for frank delirium plus blurted out!

              But nobody was so smart for you to blurt out! Does this mean anything?
          2. raw174
            raw174 7 November 2017 08: 13
            +4
            Quote: Stroporez
            that in the same Europe, officials ride bicycles to work and no one guards them.

            You can afford it, when your country is the size of our small region and most people know each other personally, life goes on well and the country has no claims to resolve any issues outside its borders.
            Quote: Stroporez
            Why the hell do I need such power, which is afraid of its own people ?!

            And protection only from his people?
            Although most governors do not need protection, in my opinion ...
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 7 November 2017 09: 02
              +5
              Quote: raw174
              And protection only from his people?
              Although most governors do not need protection, in my opinion ...

              The fact is that in our curved country, security is already something in itself, soon security will also be guarded by security!
              To let the gold be calmer
              It was tight in wallets
              The robbers guard them
              From the robbers of others ...
              1. raw174
                raw174 7 November 2017 09: 06
                +4
                Quote: Stroporez
                The fact is that in our curved country, security is already something in itself, soon security will also be guarded by security!

                That is why the state will protect the statists.
                So that there are no seven nannies, there will be one common.
                As the nannies of Kutuzov used to say: "Seven nannies have a child ... you understand")))
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 7 November 2017 09: 37
                  +5
                  Quote: raw174
                  That is why the state will protect the statists.

                  I say all this to the fact that in Russia the number of cops has already greatly exceeded the number of regular army.
                  As for the bureaucrats of various kinds, I believe that their life should not be different from the lives of ordinary citizens, otherwise they have already lost their shores and the reality of what is happening.
                  1. raw174
                    raw174 7 November 2017 10: 26
                    +2
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    I say all this to the fact that in Russia the number of cops has already greatly exceeded the number of regular army.

                    VV MVD is the army or the cops? In the Caucasus, they fought side by side with the army ... Now, in general, the Rosguard depends on submission or tasks?
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    I believe that their life should not be different from the life of ordinary citizens

                    And from which citizens? From the life of a janitor or owner of a chain of hotels and a shopping mall? And in what aspects? This is me if the official does not have material advantages, who will go to this work? The governor also has work not honey, the burden of responsibility is not small, we want a professional? need to feed ...
          3. Felix99
            Felix99 15 November 2017 10: 19
            0
            The country has not yet experienced a period of capital accumulation. YouTube look at how officials on the roads shoot each other out of injuries, beat with bats and fists. Every day, whoever is stronger is broadcasting through the mailbox, he is right. What to do when at any moment you can enter with a knife or canister of gasoline.
      4. assa67
        assa67 6 November 2017 14: 16
        +3
        some units also performed such a function yes ... let's say, looked after
      5. raw174
        raw174 7 November 2017 08: 08
        +2
        Quote: Black
        But did the FSO protect the top officials of the SUBJECTS of the Russian Federation?

        Yes, some, by personal decision of the president (the Caucasus as a rule).
        On the topic, I think that most of the heads of subjects do not need protection, when was the last attempt, if you do not take into account the troubled Caucasus?
        I think that this is a measure of maintaining the Rosguard’s trousers, the servicemen lobbied for this measure, in order to take part of the private security incomes to their department. It’s not cold and hot for us, it will affect PSCs ...
    2. Barshchik-M
      Barshchik-M 6 November 2017 10: 44
      15
      Quote: assa67
      somehow blurry .... i.e. FSO functions will be transferred to the Russian Guard .... but what's the point ?.

      This is all under the "seven seals" .. But the point is that there is a threat of a coup d'etat, long developed by Western intelligence agencies ..
      They have a lot of money and do not spare for bribing everyone and everything in Russia! We already need paramilitary units ready at any moment to defend statehood and order in Russia!
      The sanctions did not work .. hehe If anything, the Urals will rise with crowbars and pickaxes. 90th we do not need!
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 6 November 2017 10: 51
        +9
        Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
        This is all under the "seven seals" .. But the point is that there is a threat of a coup d'etat, long developed by Western intelligence agencies ..

        The threat of a coup d'etat by Western intelligence agencies is most likely confined to the presidential election. And the law will enter into force only 180 days after publication - i.e. after the election. There is something else here, most likely Putin has conceived something serious in the new term.
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          1. Obstacle
            Obstacle 6 November 2017 11: 53
            +3
            You've messed up something, claims to the plush government, the Supreme is capitally limited.
            1. Overlock
              Overlock 6 November 2017 19: 56
              +6
              Medvedev trump appointed?
          2. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 6 November 2017 12: 36
            +8
            Quote: walking the trail
            "There is something else, most likely Putin has conceived something serious in the new term."
            ...and as usual - nothing good for the people.
            What does this threaten you with? Additional funding is not required i.e. you don’t have to worry about your pocket, but because you don’t have protection today, you won’t have it tomorrow either. The fact that our "bonzes" protect themselves on the principle of who and what is much, and often through some private security companies controlled by him, paying their own protection with budget money, will be excluded since it is necessary to contact the specially provided service on this occasion, conclude an agreement and pay not for its manual protection, but for the state.
            1. weksha50
              weksha50 6 November 2017 14: 38
              +4
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              will be excluded because it is necessary to contact the specially provided service on this occasion, conclude an agreement and pay not for its manual protection, but for the state.


              ABOUT ! So - it’s understandable, even very ... And so, bonzes will not be under the supervision of their own guard, but - in fact - under state supervision ... Round the clock ...
              A new kind of "sharashka" ??? laughing
              Maybe they’ll make the “bonzes” like this and work for the good of the state, and return the money from offshore? lol
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 6 November 2017 22: 32
                +3
                Quote: weksha50
                ABOUT ! So - it’s understandable, even very ... And so, bonzes will not be under the supervision of their own guard, but - in fact - under state supervision ... Round the clock ...

                Well, something like this))) It’s necessary to start accustoming the regionals to a strict leash))) One Gaiser divested a billion rubles of state funds into his pocket and at the same time officially asked the GDP to provide several million rubles from the federal center for celebration of the 100th anniversary of the Komi Republic. Well, isn’t it? In the whole republic lives 800 thousand. people (in Perm alone or in Sverdlovsk more than a million), and he orders tuples for himself. Who needs it in FIG, it was needed, frozen in the taiga? But the babosov burned to his guard as much as the pope, who is Roman, does not allow himself.
              2. igorka357
                igorka357 7 November 2017 07: 55
                0
                Well, you see how to think competently .. wink It comes to the fact that Moscow was not immediately built!
                1. Amurets
                  Amurets 7 November 2017 11: 31
                  +1
                  Quote: igorka357
                  Well, you see how to think competently ..

                  Before writing this nonsense, ask who is in front of you.
                  weksha50 a person with this “nickname” will not write about his knowledge and experience “nonsense like you”.
                  1. rpek32
                    rpek32 7 November 2017 12: 32
                    +1
                    Quote: Amurets
                    Before writing this nonsense, ask who is in front of you.

                    classic forum fighter karmamasturbator.
              3. Amurets
                Amurets 7 November 2017 11: 23
                +3
                Quote: weksha50
                Maybe they’ll make the “bonzes” like this and work for the good of the state, and return the money from offshore? lol

                Dreams, dreams, what is your sweetness?
            2. olimpiada15
              olimpiada15 6 November 2017 19: 08
              +3
              How is this additional funding not required?
              From the federal budget, no. And about the regional is not said, then from the regional budget will pay for the contract. Of course, the federal budget needs "effective" banks to finance, and the regional one, it’s also rubber, all regions are in debt.
              They are afraid, they know how they sent objectionable to the next world, remember Lebed, Evdokimov, and many others.
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 6 November 2017 22: 55
                0
                Quote: olimpiada15
                From the federal budget, no. And about the regional is not said, then from the regional budget will pay for the contract. Of course, the federal budget needs "effective" banks to finance, and the regional one, it’s also rubber, all regions are in debt.

                Olympics, here you seem to be a smart person and read everything correctly - there will be no increase in the expenses of the FEDERAL budget. Will not be! And the fact that the regionals are in debt does not prevent them from borrowing the same money from the federals and spending it on their loved ones. The less opportunities they have to spend on themselves, the less they will take from the federals. The feeder should fall to the level of regional development. If the governor attracted investors, created jobs, increased the tax base, then he may have funds that will reduce financial dependence on the Center. But as practice shows, most governors, breaking into this post, stupidly occupy the Center because they know what they will have to give to others, and they pump everything that is badly pinned in their region. Until the governor’s tribe annually reports on attracted investments and job creation, on the development of road infrastructure, increase in agricultural land, etc. If you haven’t created a fig, then make room for another. Until then, the regions will always be subsidized, which means that the protection of top officials (zero) will be carried out from the budget of Russia. Do we need it? Let at least that money be returned to the state structures, and do not saw through their chop on their own pocket.
          3. igorka357
            igorka357 7 November 2017 07: 56
            0
            For you personally, for brainworming, and for 18 liberalsteniks so surely..nothing good !!! And for brainworming, for some reason I have no doubt .. wink !!!
          4. raw174
            raw174 7 November 2017 08: 20
            +3
            Quote: walking the trail
            ... and as usual - nothing good for the people.

            Do you work in a private security company and guard the governor? then yes, everything is bad ... The rest is up to the bulb)))
        2. Tusv
          Tusv 6 November 2017 12: 30
          +4
          Quote: SRC P-15
          The threat of a coup d'etat by Western intelligence agencies is most likely confined to the presidential election. And the law will enter into force only 180 days after publication - i.e. after the election. There is something else here, most likely Putin has conceived something serious in the new term.

          Yes, everything is simple. Local kings open their own security company and pay enormous amounts of money for their protection. Obliging to use the Rosguard, in the budget, as it should be, not a bad cash should appear
          1. 34 region
            34 region 6 November 2017 17: 25
            +1
            12.30. So who will pay for the protection? The face itself? From personal money or sovereign? Or will money be allocated from the budget? What does it mean they will guard? Follow what? How are things at work. Security cameras guard you! Will there be wiretapping (for protection purposes)? Can this pure water protection supervision? Such a prison in the wild. It’s like you’re not sitting, but under a cap.
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 6 November 2017 17: 39
              0
              Quote: 34 region
              So who will pay for the protection? The face itself? From personal money or sovereign?

              You were not attentive. The payer is the budget. Contractor FSUE Guard of the Russian Guard. What are the options? Private structures?
              1. 34 region
                34 region 6 November 2017 17: 48
                +1
                17.39. hi In this case, this is pure control. Work under full supervision. The zone is also guarded and also from the budget! And you can even say by agreement (sentence). laughing What to say? Clever! On a cunning gyrus found his scrap! laughing Well, how can one now declare repressions !? After all, they guard! lol Laughing out loud! It's just so interesting. After this, the boxes and rooms of money will appear in the guards? what
        3. Barshchik-M
          Barshchik-M 6 November 2017 15: 54
          +6
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          There is something else here, most likely Putin has conceived something serious in the new term.

          God grant that it was decided on this ... The people are tired already!
        4. igorka357
          igorka357 7 November 2017 07: 53
          0
          And he did the right thing!
      2. spirit
        spirit 6 November 2017 12: 30
        +8
        Are you a case not from Chelyabinsk? go here, tell them about the State Department) let's see who gets scrap from whom laughing People in the year of ecology in the city have nothing to breathe)
        1. raw174
          raw174 7 November 2017 12: 35
          +2
          Quote: spirit
          Are you a case not from Chelyabinsk? go here, tell them about the State Department) let's see who gets scrap from whom laughing People in the year of ecology in the city have nothing to breathe)

          It's funny))) I often go to Chelyabinsk (I live in the region), as far as I remember, it always stank! Although friends say that this happens only occasionally, they sniffed))) The industrial center, it cannot be clean, as in Magnitogorsk ...
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 6 November 2017 11: 01
      0
      Quote: assa67
      somehow blurry .... i.e. FSO functions will be transferred to the Russian Guard .... but the point? ... the structure worked. If not bad, why reform? Would you comb the top

      And what is wrong with the top in the FSO?
    4. ID90
      ID90 6 November 2017 11: 44
      +6
      Quote: assa67
      somehow blurry .... i.e. FSO functions will be transferred to the Russian Guard .... but the point? ... the structure worked. If not bad, why reform? Would you comb the top

      clever legalization of ramzankin bandits.
      Now they will become the National Guard.
      it’s scary to imagine how Putin’s policy of flirting with Chechnya will have to be dismantled.
      the Putlerovites are either afraid or have decided to completely succumb to the Russian people.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 6 November 2017 13: 21
        0
        Quote: ID90
        clever legalization of ramzankin bandits. Now they will become the National Guard.

        "My tongue is my enemy." Wait and they will come for you.
      2. Med_Dog
        Med_Dog 6 November 2017 15: 17
        0
        When will you apologize? )))
      3. igorka357
        igorka357 7 November 2017 07: 59
        0
        You certainly will not have to, so get out already from under the sofa!
      4. raw174
        raw174 7 November 2017 08: 25
        +2
        Quote: ID90
        clever legalization of ramzankin bandits.

        What a twist!
        "-Oh, did you come up with it yourself? -Well, here. -And the prince dragged." - from the film "White Dew"
        Quote: ID90
        Now they will become the National Guard.

        What kind of bandits will NOW become employees? Enlighten ...
        1. ID90
          ID90 7 November 2017 09: 48
          0
          Quote: raw174
          What kind of bandits will NOW become employees? Enlighten ...

          armed people Kadyrov.
          many killed Russian boys.
          1. raw174
            raw174 7 November 2017 10: 39
            +2
            Quote: ID90
            armed people Kadyrov.

            And what status do they have now? Whose support are they on? Are you really up to the topic or suggesting
            Quote: ID90
            many killed Russian boys.

            Oooochen, a significant part of the male population of Chechnya, like Ramzan and his father Akhmat, during the 1st and 2nd companies killed Russian guys, military men, do you think they should all be slaughtered? Having come to power, the GDP has won over some of them, which in turn has ensured the suppression of Wahhabis. He (GDP) made a bet on local and did not lose. In my opinion, this is the right decision, which provided at least some stability in the region. It was not a tactical, but a strategic decision.
            1. ID90
              ID90 7 November 2017 10: 54
              +3
              Quote: raw174
              And what status do they have now? Whose support are they on? Are you really up to the topic or suggesting

              a friend went to Chechnya to compete in special forces.
              upon arrival I was shocked by the current Chechnya and especially about the equipment of the Chechen security forces.
              He said that he had in the unit and half didn’t have what they had, although he didn’t get out of Syria.
              and the worst of his words is that the next war in Chechnya will be much more bloody
              last one.
              Quote: raw174
              Having come to power, the GDP has won over some of them,

              stupidly overwhelmed with money, and not soaked in the toilet.
              if the Ukrainians now begin to give a comparable amount of money, then the war in the Donbass will end tomorrow.
              1. raw174
                raw174 7 November 2017 11: 02
                +2
                Quote: ID90
                and the worst of his words is that the next war in Chechnya will be much bloodier than the last.

                I don’t want to say anything bad about your friend, but a simple fighter, as a rule, is not up to date with events, as the topic says ... He can be judged by the equipment and training of personnel, and the command decides the issue. And in 1 and 2 companies, the Russian Armed Forces could crush the Wahhabis, but the command held back. You can have a better army, but a mediocre / bought / unmotivated command will lower everything ...
                Quote: ID90
                stupidly overwhelmed with money, but did not soak in the toilet

                No. He relied on the right horse, brought to power teip, which was able to organize what we now have. The right decisions were made regarding the level of self-determination, authority was given.
                1. ID90
                  ID90 7 November 2017 11: 24
                  +2
                  Quote: raw174
                  but a simple fighter

                  intelligence commander ???
                  Quote: raw174
                  No. He relied on the right horse, brought to power teip, which was able to organize what we now have. The right decisions were made regarding the level of self-determination, authority was given.

                  and if you reduce the subsidy of Chechnya?
                  how fast will loyalty end?
                  1. raw174
                    raw174 7 November 2017 12: 17
                    +2
                    Quote: ID90
                    intelligence commander ???

                    He is competent on the battlefield, but wars begin and lead politicians, they dictate the rules. Soldiers are a tool. I’m saying that Chechnya can be equipped with at least some fighters, but if their command is inept, they will fail. By command I do not mean field workers with weapons in their hands, but those who give them orders, the same rule applies in the opposite direction.
                    Quote: ID90
                    and if you reduce the subsidy of Chechnya?

                    EBN, after 1 company, also flooded Chechnya with money, billions for recovery + turned a blind eye to illegal oil production, and what is the result? It did not help, because I put the wrong ones at the helm ...
                    The table is not an indicator, it is an attitude to the collection of taxes ... I know that money is pouring into the UK, that it is a subsidized region, but this does not cancel the correct choice of Akhmad Kadyrov by the Kremlin and the end justifies the means.
                    After all, the first thing Ahmad did was to pardon the militants, who had sworn allegiance to the center, and this paid off, the Wahhabis pushed.
                    1. ID90
                      ID90 7 November 2017 13: 05
                      +1
                      Quote: raw174
                      Quote: ID90
                      intelligence commander ???

                      He is competent on the battlefield, but wars begin and lead politicians, they dictate the rules. Soldiers are a tool. I’m saying that Chechnya can be equipped with at least some fighters, but if their command is inept, they will fail. By command I do not mean field workers with weapons in their hands, but those who give them orders, the same rule applies in the opposite direction.
                      Quote: ID90
                      and if you reduce the subsidy of Chechnya?

                      EBN, after 1 company, also flooded Chechnya with money, billions for recovery + turned a blind eye to illegal oil production, and what is the result? It did not help, because I put the wrong ones at the helm ...
                      The table is not an indicator, it is an attitude to the collection of taxes ... I know that money is pouring into the UK, that it is a subsidized region, but this does not cancel the correct choice of Akhmad Kadyrov by the Kremlin and the end justifies the means.
                      After all, the first thing Ahmad did was to pardon the militants, who had sworn allegiance to the center, and this paid off, the Wahhabis pushed.

                      Thank you for the civilized communication. hi
    5. Going
      Going 6 November 2017 13: 04
      +8
      Quote: assa67
      somehow blurry .... i.e. FSO functions will be transferred to the Russian Guard .... but the point? ... the structure worked. If not bad, why reform? Would you comb the top


      We are talking about the subjects of Russia, but much is not clear.
    6. weksha50
      weksha50 6 November 2017 14: 32
      +2
      Quote: assa67
      those. FSO functions will be transferred to the Russian Guard .... but what's the point? ..



      Duc ... "On a contractual basis" ... Some kind of turbidity ... Will the governors pay the Russian Guard for their protection?
      1. svp67
        svp67 6 November 2017 15: 04
        +2
        Quote: weksha50
        Duc ... "On a contractual basis" ... Some kind of turbidity ... Will the governors pay the Russian Guard for their protection?

        The Russian Guard is in charge of the federal state unitary enterprise Okhrana of the Federal Service for National Guard Troops (FSUE Okhrana of the Russian Guard), a state-owned enterprise partially operating under the federal law On Departmental Security, in which it is designated as “paramilitary and guard units” an organization subordinate to the Russian Guard ”(Article 26). Unlike departmental security, an enterprise has the right to protect objects of all forms of ownership on a contractual basis, regardless of departmental affiliation. Employees of the FSUE “Guard” of the Russian Guard use special means and military hand small arms adopted by the Russian Guard, as well as service and civilian weapons authorized for circulation on the territory of the Russian Federation [12].
        Until 2016, the enterprise was under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation and was called the FSUE “Protection” of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia
        1. weksha50
          weksha50 6 November 2017 21: 31
          +2
          Quote: svp67
          Until 2016, the enterprise was under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation and was called the FSUE “Protection” of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia


          Thanks for clarifying... hi
          True, I am shocked by the fact that a state official of high rank will be guarded by the state structure for HIS (???) money ... And if not for his money, but budget ones - so why mention this contractual basis .. .
          I’m talking about the fact that somehow this aspect is presented not humanly ...
          Or maybe this is purely my personal opinion from an incomplete understanding ...
    7. g1v2
      g1v2 6 November 2017 14: 40
      +8
      Well, for starters, the FSO does not protect the leadership of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation. And secondly, there is a saying. The farther into the forest, the thicker the partisans. Accordingly, the farther from Moscow, the brighter the local kings. Which houses are king and god. NOW FROM 85 CHAPTERS OF REGIONS - 8 ARRESTED AND PERFORMED. Plus, do not forget about the national republics, where there are also local elites who do not indulge in self-indulgence. And finally, the head of the region, appointed from Moscow, can ruin someone's local schemes and die suddenly. Personally, I personally do not mind that the soldiers of the Russian Guard, subordinate to the federal structure, at the same time protect the head of the region and monitor his good behavior. And finally, they reported upstairs about all sorts of bad things. wink In general, in my opinion, all objects of state power, law enforcement agencies and strategic infrastructure should be guarded by servicemen of the Russian Guard. The same metro or water canal, for example. Given the latest trends - obviously not be superfluous. request
      1. svp67
        svp67 6 November 2017 15: 05
        +1
        Quote: g1v2
        Personally, I personally do not mind that the soldiers of the Russian Guard, subordinate to the federal structure, at the same time protect the head of the region and monitor his good behavior.

        But will the soldiers do this? Or "employees of FSUE" Guard ""?
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 6 November 2017 15: 29
          +4
          Well, as far as I know, the private security of the former Ministry of Internal Affairs, and now the Russian Guard, was transferred to the military. Technically, these are military personnel with all the consequences. Again, officers from former explosives are actively being placed at posts in other former mvd-shnyh structures. I think that both training and discipline and the command structure of all units will be restructured. It’s clear that it will be FSUE Okhrana, but now it is a single federal structure subordinate to Moscow. not local kings. And finally, this means that local kings will have to abandon their small private guard armies. request Well, where necessary, the objects will be guarded by soldiers of ordinary units of the Russian Guard.
          For example, the same Kerch bridge.
      2. raw174
        raw174 7 November 2017 08: 33
        +2
        Quote: g1v2
        Well, for starters, the FSO does not protect the leadership of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation

        Some are guarded. By decision of the president (in my opinion in Ingushetia and some other regions of the Caucasus). The rest I agree with you.
  2. Gardamir
    Gardamir 6 November 2017 10: 33
    13
    And what is riot coming?
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 6 November 2017 10: 49
      +7
      Quote: Gardamir
      And what is riot coming?

      Read carefully
      according to which the Russian Guard is empowered to ensure the security of senior officials of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation

      And what is the unrest of senior officials coming? laughing
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 6 November 2017 12: 37
        +4
        Read carefully
        Every week, the National Guard is reinforced in one way or another.
    2. Barshchik-M
      Barshchik-M 6 November 2017 10: 50
      +7
      Quote: Gardamir
      And what is riot coming?

      They’ve been trying for a long time .. hehe

      The case of the red-haired living of all the living ..

      Again redistribution of property bloody want to start a bastard ..
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 6 November 2017 14: 42
        +4
        Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
        They’ve been trying for a long time .. hehe


        A sweet couple ... Their energy would be - yes in a peaceful direction ... laughing
      2. rpek32
        rpek32 7 November 2017 07: 39
        +1
        Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
        Long ago

        how do you wind up your turnip so fast, Vasya?
        8 days 81k rating
    3. Spnsr
      Spnsr 6 November 2017 11: 47
      0
      Quote: Gardamir
      And what is riot coming?

      If we tighten the nuts, then the aligarchs will begin to worry
    4. svp67
      svp67 6 November 2017 15: 06
      +1
      Quote: Gardamir
      And what is riot coming?

      But somehow you don’t understand, or excitement, or festivities, or maybe all at the same time ...
  3. Observer2014
    Observer2014 6 November 2017 10: 43
    +9
    But what about the FSO? belay Clearly, it is necessary to protect senior officials of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation (heads of the highest executive bodies of state power of constituent entities of the Russian Federation) and other persons. I understand that this is a reform of the FSO. What can I say. Watch carefully the leadership of the Rosguard. That would not be like roofing foshnikov. The arrests of the last years of leadership in the FSO are confirmation of this. We were tired of seeing the fight and decided to replace it with Rosguard. Let's see how the latter will cope with the temptation on the ground.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 6 November 2017 11: 14
      +6
      Quote: Observer2014
      But what about the FSO?

      But it did not deal with such protection. Only Moscow, St. Petersburg and the North Caucasus republics.
      Well, the rest of the "castle", each head of the region taxied, as he wanted. Since 1996. Creating for himself, beloved, personal “special forces” for money from the regional budget. Often very, very large. It seems like in the Chelyabinsk region, even the criminal was on this topic.

      MVDshniki have long wanted to bring this money "for themselves" by squeezing private traders. For it often happened that policemen guarded, and the governor "nukers" received money for it. But it seems that they failed to push the law. Now a new attempt, already from the side of the Russian Guard
      1. svp67
        svp67 6 November 2017 15: 07
        0
        Quote: Spade
        Now a new attempt, already from the side of the Russian Guard

        I think this time it will work out ...
  4. anton.appukhami2016
    anton.appukhami2016 6 November 2017 10: 44
    18
    The power of the people is afraid of their hi
    1. Invoker39rus
      Invoker39rus 6 November 2017 10: 49
      +6
      In Libya, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Georgia, Ukraine, too, they were not “afraid” of their people.
    2. Observer2014
      Observer2014 6 November 2017 10: 50
      +9
      anton.appukhami2016
      The power of the people is afraid of their
      Come on you exaggerate. You need to protect under any authority. The main thing here is that protection by the authorities does not feel. This is the main task.
      1. anton.appukhami2016
        anton.appukhami2016 6 November 2017 10: 52
        +1
        In what there is some truth (about protection).
      2. ID90
        ID90 6 November 2017 11: 50
        17
        Quote: Observer2014
        anton.appukhami2016
        The power of the people is afraid of their
        Come on you exaggerate. You need to protect under any authority. The main thing here is that protection by the authorities does not feel. This is the main task.

        Quote from Dunno on the Moon by Nosov, chapter 31
        [Quote] [/ quote]“And who are these cops?” - asked Herring.

        - Bandits! - said Spikelet with irritation. - Honestly, bandits! In fact, the duty of the police is to protect the population from robbers, but in reality they protect only the rich. And the rich are the real robbers. They only rob us, hiding behind the laws that they themselves come up with. And what, tell me, is the difference, according to the law, they will rob me or not according to the law? I do not care!

        - Here you are somehow wonderful! - said Vintik. “Why are you obeying the police and these ... as you call them rich?”

        - Try not to listen here, when everything is in their hands: the land, and factories, and money, and, in addition, weapons! - The spikelet was sullen. “Now I’ll come home,” he said, “and the police will seize me and put me in a jail.” And the seeds will be taken away. It is clear! The rich will not allow anyone to plant giant plants. Not destined, apparently, we get rid of poverty!
    3. The black
      The black 6 November 2017 10: 51
      +3
      Quote: anton.appukhami2016
      The power of the people is afraid of their

      But what do you think, these guys have traveled without security to this day? smile .... they took the function from the police - they transferred it to the Russian Guard (PSB). That’s all. It’s just that it was done for free before, but now you’ll have to pay smile
      1. Spnsr
        Spnsr 6 November 2017 11: 50
        +1
        And the Russian guard is subordinate to the president
    4. EvgNik
      EvgNik 6 November 2017 13: 04
      +5
      Quote: anton.appukhami2016
      The power of the people is afraid of their

      Yes, and every day more. The last one is taken away.
      1. raw174
        raw174 7 November 2017 13: 17
        +2
        Quote: EvgNik
        The last one is taken away.

        What specifically took away from you? Home, car or a bright future?
  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic 6 November 2017 10: 47
    +7
    I propose to make everything simpler - to introduce all services such as fire, ambulance, wreckers, janitors, movers from all warehouses, shops, kindergartens, hospitals, schools — in short, the whole country — into the structure of the National Guard under the Rosnazgvardi! !!! fool Blind blinded what they want from this it is not known what !!!! fool
  6. atos_kin
    atos_kin 6 November 2017 10: 49
    +9
    Correctly! Who else will protect the people from senior officials. Although it’s safer to immediately place people in camps.
    1. Alexkorzun
      Alexkorzun 6 November 2017 11: 33
      +4
      everything says that this is exactly what they are doing with us .... slowly, but non-stop
    2. weksha50
      weksha50 6 November 2017 14: 46
      +6
      Quote: atos_kin
      Correctly! Who else will protect the people aboutt senior officials. Although it’s safer to place people immediately in the camps.


      Hmm ... Maybe - on the contrary ???
      It’s both simpler and cheaper ...
    3. 34 region
      34 region 6 November 2017 17: 35
      +5
      10.49. Which camps? Pioneer or credit? And of course the situation is interesting. Oligarchs under the hood of the West. They clearly track the material growth and fall of the oligarchs! The people under the hood of the oligarchs. They clearly make sure that the minimum wage and living wage are not exceeded! The people squint on the oligarchs and the West diligently supports this squint! In an interesting time we live. Either the oligarchs will devour the people, or the West will devour the oligarchs. As a result, all the devouring will be in the interests of the West!
  7. stolz
    stolz 6 November 2017 10: 53
    +2
    Moreover, ensuring the security of the heads of regions "is supposed to be carried out exclusively on a contractual basis, and other persons, as a rule, on a contractual basis, unless otherwise decided by the President of the Russian Federation"

    The keywords here are "contractual basis", they will also cut the loot for their service - here he is the bestial grin of capitalism.
    1. raw174
      raw174 7 November 2017 13: 21
      +2
      Quote: Stolz
      The keywords here are "contractual basis", they will also cut the loot for their service - here he is the bestial grin of capitalism.

      Yes, but private security has always provided paid services ... Kindergartens, schools, children's camps, etc. state employees have always paid PSB for security, for the alarm button ... This is a long-established normal practice.
  8. Nehist
    Nehist 6 November 2017 10: 55
    +6
    All this is strange ... It is absurd to pull differently specialized units into one department. The specifics of the FSO in general is fundamentally different from the same COLLECTION and OMON that is now in the Russian Guard. What kind of a clumsy monster will it be?
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 6 November 2017 11: 08
      +6
      But what if this is another "tricky move"? Attach a Rosgvardeyts officer to each official so that he not only guards but also watches. It may be so brazen to steal and be afraid to take bribes.
      1. EvgNik
        EvgNik 6 November 2017 13: 06
        +3
        The trick is to sit and meaningfully pout cheeks.
      2. AUL
        AUL 6 November 2017 16: 00
        +3
        Quote: Piramidon
        Attach a Rosgvardeyts officer to each official so that he not only guards but also watches. It may be so brazen to steal and be afraid to take bribes.

        Correctly! Then they will steal and take bribes together with the Russian guard. In double size.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 6 November 2017 17: 29
          0
          Quote: AUL
          Correctly! Then they will steal and take bribes together with the Russian guard. In double size.

          Judging by your words, you cannot trust anyone. And then who should fight corruption in our country?
          1. raw174
            raw174 7 November 2017 13: 22
            +2
            Quote: Piramidon
            Judging by your words, you cannot trust anyone. And then who should fight corruption in our country?

            Nothing! Bulk one will take out bully
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 6 November 2017 11: 16
      0
      Quote: Nehist
      The specifics of the FSO in general is fundamentally different from the same COLLECTION and OMON that is now in the Russian Guard.

      There is also an extra-departmental guard in Rosguard. and here the specifics are exactly the same.
      1. Nehist
        Nehist 6 November 2017 13: 50
        +1
        Well, about the extra-departmental protection is not necessary ... Po worked there for some time in the past before 2000, it was. They did not guard their faces, but only objects, and then there was no move for them in the lobby.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 6 November 2017 14: 01
          0
          Quote: Nehist
          They did not guard their faces, but only objects

          99% of the people from the FSO are doing just that. If you remove the purely "representative" P. regiment and P. orchestra.
    3. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 6 November 2017 12: 35
      +1
      Quote: Nehist
      What kind of a clumsy monster will it be?

      This monster is directly subordinate to GDP! Looks like some kind of movement is in power, since Putin is so reinsured, but will it help, time will tell
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 6 November 2017 14: 02
        +1
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        This monster is directly subordinate to GDP!

        Like the army. And explosives used to obey. Directly, as Commander-in-Chief
  9. Eurodav
    Eurodav 6 November 2017 11: 02
    0
    Quote: anton.appukhami2016
    The power of the people is afraid of their hi

    Like you? Why are you afraid? Once this blurted out, then an ardent oppositionist?
    1. ID90
      ID90 6 November 2017 11: 52
      +4
      Quote: Evrodav
      Quote: anton.appukhami2016
      The power of the people is afraid of their hi

      Like you? Why are you afraid? Once this blurted out, then an ardent oppositionist?

      the sofa fighter got out. laughing
  10. Eurodav
    Eurodav 6 November 2017 11: 04
    0
    Quote: Black
    Quote: anton.appukhami2016
    The power of the people is afraid of their

    But what do you think, these guys have traveled without security to this day? smile .... they took the function from the police - they transferred it to the Russian Guard (PSB). That’s all. It’s just that it was done for free before, but now you’ll have to pay smile

    Well, that means progress already!
  11. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 6 November 2017 11: 11
    +7
    Quote: assa67
    somehow blurry .... i.e. FSO functions will be transferred to the Russian Guard .... but what's the point? ...


    The meaning of governors to build, as I understand it. These governors for the most part are fucked up. And here the security is not toko with pistols. There is wiretapping, and agents — under the hood and prosecutors, and customs, and so on ... And the khan by the governor’s organized crime group, ideally, the Russian Guard is not in their sphere. We will take a look at the execution of a good idea. Again, after all, they will screw up everything, I can smell it.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 6 November 2017 13: 17
      +3
      Quote: iliitch
      The meaning of governors to build, as I understand it. These governors are mostly fucked up

      So I wrote about the same above. Huber - under tight control. To go under control went. And then these small-town princes (especially in the so-called national "provinces") completely lost their fear. With all due respect to Putin, to him before Stalin, as before Mars. Joseph Vissarionovich did not look at the height of the official’s chair.
  12. LiSiCyn
    LiSiCyn 6 November 2017 11: 19
    +1
    Yes, it’s simple, you need to support the Russian National Guard over money ... From here, and equalizing rights with the armed forces .. And, officials, morally, support, with a hint that you need to share .. It is written, ... on a "contractual" basis ..
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 6 November 2017 13: 10
      +3
      Quote: LiSiCyn
      need money Rossgvardiy, support

      Already supported. Next year, they are the only ones to increase the budget. And the workers were not raised for 10 years. Maybe more.
      1. raw174
        raw174 7 November 2017 13: 31
        +2
        Quote: EvgNik
        Next year, they are the only ones to increase the budget.

        where do you get the information from? How are Mendeleev from sleep?
        Quote: EvgNik
        And the workers were not raised for 10 years. Maybe more.

        Yes oooshch ... as in the USSR 110 p. paid, and it remains))) Well, do not rush exaggerated numbers! Index s / n, of course I want millions, but the workers get theirs. For your information, personally to you: MMK, assistant turner (apprentice) - about 25 thousand rubles, with an average salary in the region of about 30 thousand. And this is without qualification. Yes, not much, but with qualifications much better. Workers in production make good money.
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    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 6 November 2017 11: 36
      +6
      Freedom to GENERAL Kvachkov, future President of Russia! !! hi good So it’s more accurate! !! drinks
      1. Maalkavianin
        Maalkavianin 6 November 2017 12: 13
        +2
        He is already old for the presidency. 70 years is not a joke.
        1. ID90
          ID90 6 November 2017 12: 54
          +1
          Quote: Malkavianin
          He is already old for the presidency. 70 years is not a joke.

          this one is not young either.
          1. Maalkavianin
            Maalkavianin 6 November 2017 13: 09
            +3
            The current helm is already 17 years old. He became the president somewhere in his 45s. And this one will only become in his 70s. See him. There is nothing to arrange again "carriage races".
    2. ID90
      ID90 6 November 2017 11: 54
      +3
      Quote: walking the trail
      Freedom to Colonel Kvachkov!

      alas, there will be no freedom for him, they will rot in human zones.
      he really threatens the Putlerovites, and not the manual Navalnovsky or dog camarilla.
    3. raw174
      raw174 7 November 2017 13: 35
      +2
      Quote: walking the trail
      Personally, I believe in our army. Rosguard, FSB, FSO ... no trust.

      And if you have to undergo surgery, will you believe the surgeon or his scalpel? The army is an instrument in the hands of the government; disobedient, principled and dissenting people do not stay there. Even the great G.K. Zhukov was under pressure after the Second World War, when he began to show his character ...
  14. brr1
    brr1 6 November 2017 11: 26
    0
    This is so that he (the head) could be removed quickly and quietly.
  15. Cat Marquis
    Cat Marquis 6 November 2017 11: 41
    10
    Ohhh! Well, finally, it’s "cleared up" (already "officially") for which, in fact, "all this" fuss "with the" national guard "was started, otherwise they all stupidly believed then about the" fight against terrorism " , “assistance in natural disasters” and other “bullshit” for “loshki.” And now everything has fallen into place - the main function: “... ensuring the safety of senior officials of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation (heads of the highest executive bodies of state power of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation ) and other persons .... on a contractual basis, unless otherwise decided by the President of the Russian Federation ,,,, "
    1. Spnsr
      Spnsr 6 November 2017 12: 15
      +1
      So Yes! Adnako, however!
      And I thought who brought constitutional order in Chechnya and fought terrorism !?
      You explained everything!
      And to collect these pure potatoes and to protect top officials !!!
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 6 November 2017 13: 40
      +1
      Quote: Marquis Cat
      Ohhh! Well, finally, it’s "cleared up" (already "officially") for which, in fact, "all this" fuss "with the" national guard "was started, otherwise they all stupidly believed then about the" fight against terrorism " , “assistance in natural disasters” and other “bullshit” for “loshki.” And now everything has fallen into place - the main function: “... ensuring the safety of senior officials of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation (heads of the highest executive bodies of state power of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation ) and other persons .... on a contractual basis, unless otherwise decided by the President of the Russian Federation ,,,, "

      You then, podsnik (judging by the flag), what matters to Russia? Go shoot your negroes and do not stick your nose into our affairs. In Syria, your long nose has finally been shortened. Lick Anyc Trump.
      1. Med_Dog
        Med_Dog 6 November 2017 15: 24
        +1
        Dear, are you a quilted jacket?
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 6 November 2017 17: 33
          0
          Quote: Med_Dog
          Dear, are you a quilted jacket?

          Well, if you're a Svidomo-xlik, then I'm a quilted jacket, and I'm not ashamed of this.
  16. Altona
    Altona 6 November 2017 11: 59
    +7
    Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
    This is all under the "seven seals" .. But the point is that there is a threat of a coup d'etat, long developed by Western intelligence agencies ..

    ------------------
    What is the threat, Vitaly? That the "moderate" liberals in the Government in the form of Siluanov, Dvorkovich, Nabiulinna will be replaced by the figures of "immoderate" who will be put by Sobchak and Navalny, God forgive me? Or are you afraid for the fate of Chubais, whom Medvedev recently awarded "For Services to the Fatherland of the IV Degree" (before which Fatherland he did not specify, I assume that Israel and the USA).
  17. Altona
    Altona 6 November 2017 12: 02
    +3
    Quote: Cat Marquis
    Ohhh! Well, finally, it’s "cleared up" (already "officially") for which, in fact, "all this" fuss "with the" national guard "was started, otherwise they all stupidly believed then about the" fight against terrorism " , "relief from natural disasters" and other "bullshit" for "loshki".

    ------------------------------------
    The suppression of open dissatisfaction with the current government in the form of riots and manifestations is the main function. Each power should be able to defend itself, as the great Lenin said.
  18. Holoy
    Holoy 6 November 2017 12: 12
    +2
    Why does the Governor need protection? Something is wrong here! You will not separate from the people!
    1. Cat Marquis
      Cat Marquis 6 November 2017 15: 18
      +1
      The "vertical" must be protected, however, you never know what .... not the people. wink
    2. raw174
      raw174 7 November 2017 13: 43
      +2
      Quote: Holoy
      Why does the Governor need protection? Something is wrong here! You will not separate from the people!

      The acting head of Dagestan, I think the security is very necessary ... In general, Putin has taken the course to change the shtetl princes, the proteges can go the path to the people of the former, it’s not about the people, protection from the former ...
      Although it’s not necessary where it’s calm, but let it be like everyone’s, rather than millions in a pocket chop ...
  19. q75agent
    q75agent 6 November 2017 12: 15
    +1
    Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
    The sanctions did not work .. hehe If anything, the Urals will rise with crowbars and pickaxes. 90th we do not need!

    You tell it to those who went to rallies anal - it means not everything is so simple in the Urals .... request
  20. Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov 6 November 2017 13: 04
    0
    The United States has become disillusioned with our pseudo-liberals, who take money and then create the appearance of work with the help of the "Potemkin villages." Ukraine has shown that if Western services want to have a result, then it is necessary to finance nationalists and Nazis, primarily Russians. Then the Chechen battalions of the national guard will be very helpful.
  21. Stas1973
    Stas1973 6 November 2017 13: 04
    +3
    Previously, the protection of the highest officials of the subjects of the Federation was carried out at the expense of the forces of the Separate Battalions of the Departmental Guard at the territorial police department. They specifically had a company that was engaged in the personal protection of the governor, deputies, etc. And yes, on a contractual basis. Most often, the personal "personal" of these persons was enlisted in the staff of these battalions and they became police officers.
    Since now the UVO at the Central Internal Affairs Directorate has been transferred to Rosguard, they decided to resume this tradition.
    No more.
    I know the topic perfectly, because by the nature of the service it very often intersected with these structures.
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 6 November 2017 13: 44
      0
      Quote: Stas1973
      They specifically had a company that was engaged in the personal protection of the governor, deputies, etc.

      Have they been attacked? Were such cases known? Are you describing the times of Emelyan Pugachev to us here, or are you expecting such times? Not a single Rosguard has yet been able to defeat its own people ... what
      1. Stas1973
        Stas1973 6 November 2017 16: 30
        +1
        Statistics on such issues are closed. In general, while ensuring personal safety of any categories of citizens, this is, first of all, prevention.
        Regarding the times of Emelka - it was just recently, the 90s.
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 6 November 2017 19: 15
        0
        Quote: Esoteric
        Have they been attacked? Were such cases known?

        Immediately from the sensational (because the attempt was successful).
        2002 year
        "The head of the Magadan Region, Valentin Tsvetkov, was shot dead on Friday morning with a pistol with a silencer in the center of Moscow near the office building on Novy Arbat, where the regional office is located in the capital."
        Next - google to help
  22. Palch
    Palch 6 November 2017 13: 05
    0
    Really under Zolotov's a presidential chair prepare?
  23. Altona
    Altona 6 November 2017 13: 14
    +1
    The Derzhimordi did not save the tsar in 1917, but Putin does not know about this; the story is told to him by the dvochnik Dvorkovich.
  24. Mentat
    Mentat 6 November 2017 13: 18
    +2
    Quote: ID90
    the Putlerovites are either afraid or have decided to completely succumb to the Russian people.

    You are clearly mistaken forum. They won’t understand you here. As, however, in general in Russia.
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 6 November 2017 13: 41
      +3
      Quote: Mentat
      You are clearly mistaken forum. They won’t understand you here. As, however, in general in Russia.

      Maybe they don’t want to understand? Do not want to see the obvious? For these purposes, there is the protection of the president ... But the Rosgvardia, necessary for the protection of all sorts of people, is not needed by the people ... If these people cannot be tolerated by civil society, then they must be driven out of power. The people need a guard protecting their rights on the street, on the pedestrian path, in the park (forest belt), on the banks of the river (lake). A guard that protects against violence and lawlessness.
      1. raw174
        raw174 7 November 2017 14: 48
        +2
        Quote: Esoteric
        For these purposes, there is the protection of the president.

        This is the FSO, but the article is not about the president, but about the governors, their FSO protects in exceptional cases ...
        Quote: Esoteric
        The people need a guard protecting their rights on the street, on the pedestrian path, in the park (forest belt), on the banks of the river (lake). A guard that protects against violence and lawlessness.

        As part of the Russian Guard of the BB, OMON, private security, LRO, SOBR, SPC with aviation, maybe someone missed ... These units daily work to protect the population from encroachments. If you personally will be threatened, including by terrorists, be sure these services will come to the rescue, as it was hundreds of times ... There are incompetents and scum everywhere, even among plumbers, but in general ... A comrade from these structures (PSB ) now in Dagestan, they recently talked, runs around the area as part of a consolidated detachment, he bandits out. The guys serve so that we can sleep peacefully.
        Quote: Esoteric
        And the Rosguard, necessary for the protection of all sorts, is not needed by the people

        If you hypothetically take and remove all the governors and the government, at once, once and for all, how many hours will the country stretch without these "all sorts"?
    2. ID90
      ID90 6 November 2017 13: 49
      +1
      Quote: Mentat
      Quote: ID90
      the Putlerovites are either afraid or have decided to completely succumb to the Russian people.

      You are clearly mistaken forum. They won’t understand you here. As, however, in general in Russia.

      and you have all of Russia, the cop?
  25. Piramidon
    Piramidon 6 November 2017 13: 25
    0
    Quote: Spade
    There is also an extra-departmental guard in Rosguard. and here the specifics are exactly the same.

    AFIGET! In with FSO level. Supermarket security guard with president security guard. I have not heard that before.
  26. Esoteric
    Esoteric 6 November 2017 13: 34
    +1
    They will say that (someone) from the top officials of Russia came to the city and wants to meet with citizens ... No. I won’t even go out ...
    The power chosen by the people comes up with where to spend a skinny budget to protect themselves from this people? fellow
  27. John Doe
    John Doe 6 November 2017 14: 12
    +3
    It’s scary to live. This is how you need to be afraid of your people so that you would be so prepared to crush your citizens? (
    People do not have weapons, there is no leader, there is no opportunity / desire to get together either.
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 6 November 2017 14: 45
      +1
      Well, then you have plenty of weapons and people are not afraid of power. How many corpses are there in Texas? And how much time has passed since the execution in Las Vegas? Thank you - we do not need such helpless power structures.
      1. Med_Dog
        Med_Dog 6 November 2017 15: 28
        +1
        Do you care about the flag? Many people put it to people like you to troll. Right now I’ll put the flag of Ukraine and say how everything is bad in Russia from sanctions, so you call me a hohl.
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 6 November 2017 15: 45
          +3
          I really love it when losers who run after the happy share of an American taxi driver or an Israeli cleaner teach us how to rebuild our country. Right now I can not help but admire their valuable advice. belay
          And you will not scare me with the flag of Ukraine. There Donavia with such a flag on the avatar is not the first year sitting on the site and didn’t break anything. Just because a person is extremely informative, interesting and writes about the case. And one-time trolls, changing accounts and carrying feces to my country, are disgusting to me regardless of the flag. In my opinion, I have clearly stated my point of view. hi
      2. John Doe
        John Doe 6 November 2017 15: 56
        +1
        Quote: g1v2
        Well, then you have plenty of weapons and people are not afraid of power. How many corpses are there in Texas? And how much time has passed since the execution in Las Vegas? Thank you - we do not need such helpless power structures.

        I really love it when losers who run after the happy share of an American taxi driver or an Israeli cleaner teach us how to rebuild our country. Right now I can not help but admire their valuable advice

        And I am more concerned about the fate of our engineers and scientists who, by the will of fate, should wash the dishes in an American cafe, because smart people are not needed at home ((
        I have the same attitude to Texas as you do to the moon))
        And while I live in my homeland, I will be worried about the things that our government does.
  28. weksha50
    weksha50 6 November 2017 14: 30
    +2
    "ensuring the security of the heads of regions" is supposed to be carried out exclusively on a contractual basis, and other persons, as a rule on a contractual basisunless the President of the Russian Federation decides otherwise "...

    Hmm ... Strange somehow .... "On a contractual basis" in our country, as a rule, means - for a fee (in the amount that we’ll agree on) ...
    Well, private security at the Ministry of Internal Affairs is somehow understandable ...
    And the protection by the Rosgvardia (state organization) of government officials - on a contractual basis - how is it? Butter oil? Special conditions of service allowance?
    I - do not jerk ... Just somehow foolishly presented this news ... recourse
    1. raw174
      raw174 7 November 2017 14: 52
      +2
      Quote: weksha50
      And the protection by the Rosgvardia (state organization) of government officials - on a contractual basis - how is it?

      On a contractual basis, it means that an NPA is concluded, namely a contract. I think its size (price) will be approved regionally, i.e. tariffs will be regional, as with the extra-private party it was ...
  29. Mentat
    Mentat 6 November 2017 15: 13
    +1
    Quote: Esoteric
    Maybe they don’t want to understand? Do not want to see the obvious? For these purposes, there is the protection of the president ... But the Russian Guard, necessary for the protection of all sorts, is not needed by the people

    Do not take much on yourself, for the whole people to rant? Our people are actually very smart and quick-witted, they don’t need other people's hints, they see everything themselves. One of the reasons why these changes are planned is indicated above: it is likely to eliminate corruption schemes for protecting local officials.
    Further, you are engaged in gorlopanost and provocation - although the problem of corruption is serious, notorious villains do not work in leading positions in Russia, as you allude to for some reason. In the case of externally organized unrest they, those who work for the good of the motherland, will become the goal. Not fat bonzes, not stupid embezzlers who are not really interested in anyone from the "opposition", but working people! Therefore, means of protection are provided in advance not from individual cases of crime, but from organized actions of capture by armed groups or attempts to eliminate them.

    Returning to the original text: people who use the word "putl * p", I do not think otherwise as traitors and degraders. At a minimum, these are pimple algae that have not gained either mind or common sense.
    I repeat, they will not understand such characters in this forum, whose visitors are mostly people involved in the service of the Fatherland, patriots in the true sense of the word. Especially considering what Putin has already done for the country and the Army - at the level of Russia's outstanding historical personalities.
  30. Mentat
    Mentat 6 November 2017 15: 25
    0
    Quote: ID90
    Quote: Mentat
    Quote: ID90
    the Putlerovites are either afraid or have decided to completely succumb to the Russian people.

    You are clearly mistaken forum. They won’t understand you here. As, however, in general in Russia.

    and you have all of Russia, the cop?

    Luck, broaden your horizons, go to Yandex, type “mentat” there. It would not hurt you to continue to do this regularly, in order to better understand the reality surrounding you.
  31. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 6 November 2017 15: 53
    +1
    Power is very nervous. It is understandable, compradors always feel in one place.
  32. groks
    groks 6 November 2017 16: 45
    0
    Vaguely - replaces, complements, ....?
    In general, this is shitty anyway. The authorities began to fear us even more.
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    1. raw174
      raw174 7 November 2017 15: 02
      +3
      Quote: Aleksey Khramshin
      In addition to our "dear" governors and mayors, there is no one else to guard!

      I am not a governor, there is no personal guard, but I’m not afraid to walk down the street at night, street crime is not high. maybe this is the work of organs? Today I feel safe.
      Quote: Aleksey Khramshin
      Putin will add his decrees. Who will elect the clown again?

      If you mean "clown" Putin, then I will go, because I see how much he has done and is doing for the country. I respect him and am proud that we have such a president. good
      You have the opposite point of view, and this is not bad, but you don’t need to insult, it doesn’t color you ...
  34. samarin1969
    samarin1969 6 November 2017 17: 47
    +1
    After so many years in power ... many rulers begin to think of a “front” .... They wanted to get by without dog’s heads, “Simeon Bekbulatovich” or Masons guards.
    In addition to distrust, it is difficult to explain with any other reason the birth of Rosguard.
  35. Fedya2017
    Fedya2017 6 November 2017 18: 12
    +2
    Now every governor will have guards. To drag governor's suitcases, open the doors in front of him - close ... Governors can’t do without a “guard” ...
  36. Dark_Filin
    Dark_Filin 7 November 2017 10: 46
    +1
    Judging by this article here - https://iz.ru/news/584865 - security is now being handled by private security companies, which in essence are private power structures outside the state. score. And here they pull out a personal force from under the governors plus remove the possibilities for abuse with left-handed agreements and overpriced.
  37. eleronn
    eleronn 7 November 2017 21: 11
    0
    And I'm not surprised.
  38. eleronn
    eleronn 7 November 2017 21: 18
    0
    What? The FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Prosecutor's Office, the Investigative Committee can not cope? Let's put another yoke on the budget? finished ...
  39. serge siberian
    serge siberian 8 November 2017 16: 54
    0
    The FSO did not deal with the protection of governors. The state is small. And at the "Guard" - "it will be necessary to waste money, we’ll find the people’s money. For it will be guarded on a contractual basis."