Dzhabarov told what could be the deployment of the Russian military base in Cuba

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The deployment of the Russian military base in Cuba could aggravate relations with Washington and lead to the second Caribbean crisis, leads RIA News the opinion of the deputy head of the international committee of the Federation Council, FSB General Vladimir Dzhabarov.

Dzhabarov told what could be the deployment of the Russian military base in Cuba
Soviet missile in Cuba



Earlier, the Deputy Chairman of the Defense Committee of the Federation Council, Franz Klintsevich, spoke in favor of restoring the Russian military base in Cuba.

We need to know first the opinion of the Cubans themselves, this is an independent state,
Jabarov said the agency.

I do not think that this is the best option, it can increase the confrontation between Russia and the United States,
noted senator.

Dzhabarov recalled that stories USSR-US relations have already had a Caribbean crisis. According to him, "a new deployment of the Russian military base on the Island of Freedom can only provoke the Americans to take militant steps" in relation to Russia, "the Caribbean crisis can repeat."

The deputy head of the committee stressed that Russia must ensure its defense and security, and that the fleet of nuclear submarines that it has, and the military bases it has, “can easily cope with a sudden attack by the enemy.”

In turn, the head of the international committee of the Federation Council, Konstantin Kosachev, believes that “such decisions should be made on the basis of the principle of expediency and necessity from the point of view of ensuring the country's defense, rather than the principle of reciprocity.” Therefore, the final answer is still not for the politicians, but for the military experts and the Supreme Commander.
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  1. +66
    5 November 2017 18: 11
    I do not think that this is the best option, it can increase the confrontation between Russia and the United States,
    noted senator.
    I hope it’s not worrying about the “cottage” ... for me, it’s the only Pros. The “Ostovites” are so insolent because they are “non-permanent”, they are located across the sea-ocean, from a probable enemy that they have lost their scent ... and such "blowing" under the nose of Miami, but under the guise of our submarines, would be oh sobering.
    1. +10
      5 November 2017 18: 15
      What can it lead to? Well, then to the mass exodus of the fledglings to the north .. Now, probably to the south, to the penguins .. However, this option is not at all saving ..
      1. +60
        5 November 2017 18: 24
        Mr. Klintsevich justifies the indecision of Mead ... Says that - “will intensify the confrontation”? Where is stronger? They already openly say that Russia is the number one enemy! Even the DPRK is in fourth place, after Ebola and Isis !!!
        Something reminded me - `` there is no money, but you hold on! ''; so here - '' they surround us, but you don’t worry! '' '!!!
        In my opinion, all This is a statement of the helplessness of the current apparatus ...
        1. +15
          5 November 2017 18: 32
          The deployment of a Russian military base in Cuba could aggravate relations with Washington and lead to a second Caribbean crisis, RIA Novosti reports the opinion of the deputy head of the international committee of the Federation Council, FSB general Vladimir Dzhabarov.

          Oh, I don’t feel like walking in the FSB generals for long!
          1. +12
            5 November 2017 19: 07
            The deployment of the Russian military base in Cuba may aggravate relations with Washington and lead to a second Caribbean crisis, RIA Novosti reports the opinion of the deputy head of the international committee of the Federation Council, FSB general Vladimir Dzhabarov.

            Who will allow Russia to do this? No more fools in Cuba laughing
            First you need to know the opinion of the Cubans themselves, this is an independent state

            General guessed
            1. +24
              5 November 2017 19: 12
              Quote: The_Lancet
              Who will allow Russia to do this? Fools are no longer in Cuba

              Yes, they were not in Cuba before! And we will somehow find a common language with the Cubans! There they have a nuclear power plant in Huragua, still unfinished. Yes
            2. +35
              5 November 2017 19: 45
              Quote: The_Lancet
              Who will allow Russia to do this?

              And who will ask you, all the more it is not against you, but against ISIS. laughing
              1. +12
                6 November 2017 04: 51
                Certainly, this is to prevent ISIS missiles from reaching Florida. WE will intercept them in Cuba
            3. +13
              5 November 2017 19: 53
              And you Pindos can occupy independent countries ???
            4. +22
              5 November 2017 19: 53
              Quote: The_Lancet
              Who will allow Russia to do this? No more fools in Cuba

              The question is not whether they will allow or not, but the expediency of opening it in Cuba and its subsequent maintenance thousands of miles from Russia. Putin has already been asked whether Russia plans to return to Vietnam and Cuba, to which he replied - "And why?. Who do we need and so get it". This is what you live with. Good night...
              1. +3
                6 November 2017 01: 48
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                Quote: The_Lancet
                Who will allow Russia to do this? No more fools in Cuba

                The question is not whether they will allow or not, but the expediency of opening it in Cuba and its subsequent maintenance thousands of miles from Russia. Putin has already been asked whether Russia plans to return to Vietnam and Cuba, to which he replied - "And why?. Who do we need and so get it". This is what you live with. Good night...

                As time goes on, the situation is changing, so the base in Cuba will not hurt us. We’ll arrange long-range crickets in Cuba so that not only the "exceptional" embassies go crazy, but also on the mainland.
              2. GIN
                +1
                6 November 2017 06: 47
                So the generals need to rest somewhere, and then Hurghada is not available
            5. +2
              5 November 2017 20: 32
              Quote: The_Lancet
              Who will allow Russia to do this? No more fools in Cuba

              There is no Fidel, but the current ones will not dare to repeat the “Caribbean crisis”.
              If they "assembled" medium-range missiles and armed themselves, that would be an option!
              In the meantime, they can sell several "Iskander". For Guantanomo.
              1. +1
                6 November 2017 20: 31
                Quote: Starover_Z
                There is no Fidel, but the current ones will not dare to repeat the “Caribbean crisis”.
                If they "assembled" medium-range missiles and armed themselves, that would be an option!

                And what does the Caribbean crisis have to do with it? And where exactly is it said about missiles? So our base in Cuba existed until the 90s.
            6. +3
              5 November 2017 21: 17
              Quote: The_Lancet
              Who will allow Russia to do this?


              There is a gray hare, sometimes a white hare, and you are a friend .... The_Lancet with a striped flag of what color?
            7. +9
              6 November 2017 02: 31
              Why not? Russia is always ready to help overseas partners in the fight against ISIS. For this, the Russian base in Cuba is simply necessary.))
            8. +1
              7 November 2017 12: 24
              I would like to write obscenely, but I will not say anything. Our administration is politically correct. So I rephrase: YOU FORGOT TO ASK.
          2. +15
            5 November 2017 22: 11
            Yeah, for some reason the Americans are not very afraid of confrontation - Poland is not much further than Cuba.
            If you continue to be afraid, Siberia may immediately be given back. What if a confrontation?
          3. +4
            6 November 2017 06: 54
            What the FSB, such and generals.
        2. +5
          5 November 2017 18: 49
          Quote: Anarchist
          Mr. Klintsevich justifies the indecision of Mead ... He says that - “will intensify the confrontation”

          Namely, it will increase confrontation and will not give obvious advantages.
          1. +15
            5 November 2017 19: 14
            And what will it give? Share ...
            And it looks ugly fellow
            1. +4
              5 November 2017 19: 37
              Quote: Anarchist
              And what will it give? Share ...

              The large-scale transfer of NATO troops to the Russian borders, Russia will also drive the troops to the west since such things cannot be ignored ... no one knows how this will end.
              Stir this mover for a base in Cuba? It’s not very clear to me that such a trump card can be placed there and for what it should be done.
              1. +23
                5 November 2017 19: 45
                But aren't you boiling near our borders? Is the Baltic States and Poland teeming with NATO military? Are they building pro bases in Japan and the Republic of Korea? Is the US trying to get out of the INF Treaty?
                And in Cuba, missiles can be deployed, which will fly to Washington in a short time!
                Through the North Pole or the Pacific Ocean it will be long ... With cubes much faster!
                1. +3
                  5 November 2017 19: 49
                  Quote: Anarchist
                  And in Cuba, missiles can be deployed, which will fly to Washington in a short time!

                  They will not reach anywhere, unless Russia is the first to attack. And in terms of defense, it is just as useless as the American missile defense system in Europe, and in Japan too.
                  Just a primary goal.
                  1. +17
                    5 November 2017 20: 05
                    Not in terms of defense, but deterrence!
                    And if about so useless, then why screech about her?
                    Well, if you say, then I'm calm hi
                    1. +5
                      5 November 2017 20: 23
                      Quote: Anarchist
                      And if about so useless, then why screech about her?

                      So it’s useless in pure defense, and as a parry of a retaliatory strike, it’s even useful, until it is crushed it will have time to shoot back once or twice, and maybe even more.
                      On the "other side" are also not fools and they also choose priority goals.
                      In a nuclear war, it’s like - who first got that and slippers.
                      1. +18
                        5 November 2017 20: 29
                        Then back to the question - Why is there no point in rockets in Cuba?
                        And then you somehow contradict yourself ...
                      2. +10
                        5 November 2017 20: 59
                        Quote: Gray Brother
                        In a nuclear war, so - who first got one and slippers

                        Not for long.
                        In the final, everyone will have slippers of the same color.
                        Unfortunately.
            2. +10
              5 November 2017 19: 44
              Quote: Anarchist
              And what will it give? Share ...
              And it looks ugly fellow

              Can you imagine how much this will require funds and efforts to organize this base?
              The fact is that during the Caribbean crisis, we could not implement an adequate response to aggression from our territory. On this went to the deployment of missiles in the cube. This hour is not necessary. And this, in fact, will only aggravate the already acute situation, I think that it will even be in the hands of the politicians of America, and Cuba will be put in jeopardy as the United States does not make sense to Europe. Missiles need to be deployed against NATO European bases because the strike will be from there and not from the United States. I don’t see much sense in deploying nuclear weapons on the cube, except for the political step, it is unlikely to help. The United States is not going to expose itself to attack, War if it is with Europe (well, as it were, with NATO and America as a state it does not connect immediately, but waits a pause), and the United States will collect grandmas. Well it is, as an option. It’s hard to predict when you don’t know much. Roughly, thoughts are rumored ... recourse
              Personal opinion that you should not escalate the situation. request
              1. +6
                5 November 2017 19: 46
                Quote: NIKNN
                Can you imagine how much this will require funds and efforts to organize this base?

                And the Cubans forgot to ask.
              2. NKT
                +1
                5 November 2017 20: 11
                And if there is just Voronezh to place, does it make sense?
                1. +4
                  5 November 2017 20: 41
                  Quote: NKT
                  And if there is just Voronezh to place, does it make sense?

                  Voronezh will be against. smile I think Voronezh is not bad and it works from our territory, something less global is possible there, and it’s just as if to give Cuba, having written in the contract, the conditions for using the data obtained using the equipment supplied. wink
                2. 0
                  10 November 2017 19: 43
                  I am afraid that the Voronezh boat will be larger than Cuba. Although ... You can open a club for Young Sailors and lend them a Varshavyanka, or a boat with Caliber. Well, just visit the DOSAAF section and introduce the local youth with the possibilities of our new toys.
              3. +1
                6 November 2017 07: 40
                I agree.
                Firstly, Russia will not receive either military or political advantages from creating such a base, and financially, it will receive only losses, and multi-billion. But Russia already doesn’t peck money in Russia. That is, hens, but, alas, no money
                Secondly, staff members are unlikely to calmly watch that someone will create such a base under their nose and will try to suppress this intention already in the bud. And for this they do not need to arrange a full-scale war. Enough would be the naval and air blockade of Cuba, especially since they will be able to do this. But Russia's attempt to unblock the island could lead to a vigorous war. And now Russia does not have the strength and means to play similar football on a foreign field.
                Therefore nefig climb on rampage unnecessarily and risk the lives of their citizens. Enough that we are already paying for Syria, not receiving anything substantial in return, but constantly risking getting involved in a serious conflict with NATO. Weapons tests can, if not laziness, be carried out with dignity at home, especially for such grandmothers that fall into the Syrian black hole, and how strong friendship with Arabs can be can be remembered how the friendship with Egypt ended in its time. But there are people in Russia like Klintsevich who can’t wait to fight ... by the wrong hands. And they try not to remember those who gave their lives for the crazy adventures of the Klintsevichs and the families of the victims. They’ll say something, but I didn’t send you there as they said more than once in the recent past
                1. +5
                  6 November 2017 08: 35
                  As for the benefits - you are very in vain. The Iskander brigade, capable of covering most of the ports and main objects of the United States with ballistics or the Kyrgyz Republic within 5 minutes after a schucher, is a very effective sobering device. Sometimes, to treat an abscess, it must be opened. In this case, as during the Caribbean crisis, it will be necessary to bring the temperature of relations almost to a boil. Otherwise, the dregs of exclusivity cannot be brought down from "partners".
                  Again, an argument will appear in the negotiations - something will have to be sacrificed when the American missile defense is withdrawn from Eastern Europe. I would at the same time demand the demilitarization of Europe 2000 km from the Russian borders.
                  1. +1
                    6 November 2017 12: 45
                    Do you really think that the Americans will allow the import of Iskanders into Cuba. After all, they understand better than you and me what threatens them. But now they have more than means to detect such "contraband". Those. it cannot be brought in by the quiet, but by the loud it is a war. I do not think that the Russian leadership will want to start a war with the United States and its allies. It is one thing to frighten them to the best of their ability, and another to put the whole world on the brink of destruction. In addition, the Iskanders alone do not win wars and do not swim there on a tank. In general, when it comes to war, you need to remember how Stalin prepared for it. how he managed to mobilize the whole country before the start of the Second World War. But even he didn’t make plans to conquer America immediately. He understood that he could not compete with the American fleet and mob potential of the USA at that time. Conquer Western Europe and then it will be seen.
                    And you immediately swung at America, fellow countryman, and not with your Iskanders. You need to be more modest, even with the Polonez.
                    Yes, and I do not like my Minsk in ruins. And I saw the ruins of Minsk and even cleared them
                    1. +1
                      6 November 2017 21: 42
                      Well, we later allowed the installation of terrestrial launchers supposedly PRO.
                      The Americans will also admit. But they will not allow it - a pair of Navy transports under the guise of five Shchuk and Peter the Great with the company may well visit friendly Cuba on a friendly visit. Or escort a couple of container ships with Caliber ...
                      There would be a desire, but there are always ways.
                      1. 0
                        7 November 2017 04: 24
                        For all the danger of ground-based missile defense systems in the immediate vicinity of Russian borders for nuclear missiles of the Russian Armed Forces, these are still not strike weapons like the Iskander and the like. medium and shorter range missiles.
                        Moreover, no missile defense system in its current and forecasted for the near future state will be able to intercept most of the Russian land, sea and air-based missiles.
                        And this is clearly realized by people with brains in both Russia and America. Modern missile defense systems are not able to intercept even most of the North Korean and Iranian missiles, which are much more primitive than Russian ones.
                        Therefore, the ABM horror stories are nothing more than the horror stories.
                        True, they are selling well now because to an uninformed taxpayer, they seem to be another “wunderwaffe” and he’s ready to take off his last pants just to cover his bare ass from the imaginary missile attack of “rogue countries”.
                        But the RMND is already more serious than the missile defense system and it was not in vain that an agreement was signed between the USA and the USSR on the mutual reduction of the RMND in Europe. If he had not been signed then, then who knows, maybe there would be no one to write these comments.
                        But the USSR Armed Forces were then an order of magnitude stronger than the non-current Russian Armed Forces and there was more order in the USSR.
                        What am I doing? And the fact that the then leaders of the USA and the USSR clearly realized how the ill-considered deployment of the then RSMD might end and back up in time ..
                        And you again suggest stepping on the same rake. It’s time to already understand that the Americans are not so shy as our patriots are trying to portray endlessly, and if you overdo it in attempts to scare them, it’s quite possible to get a real nuclear reaction in response, especially if there is such a scumbag as Trump at the helm of the US government . After that there will be no one to scare and no reason on both sides of the ocean.
        3. +4
          5 November 2017 18: 50
          And if, North Korea there deploy its base ..
          1. +1
            6 November 2017 14: 52
            Exactly, under the guise of a peacekeeping force!
        4. +11
          5 November 2017 18: 51
          Quote: Anarchist
          Mr. Klintsevich justifies the indecision of Mead ..

          and what does the Foreign Ministry have to do with it? belay such decisions are made solely by the President. The Foreign Ministry is only voicing political decisions. this is a political, not a military department
          1. +14
            5 November 2017 18: 58
            The Ministry of Foreign Affairs gives recommendations on actions in these situations!
            Diplomats often change the outcome of a company ...
            1. +8
              5 November 2017 19: 02
              Quote: Anarchist
              Foreign Ministry gives recommendations on actions in current situations

              recommendations are given by the Ministry of Defense. and the Foreign Ministry, this is politics, but not the country's defense
              1. +13
                5 November 2017 19: 19
                Such recommendations are given not only by the Ministry of Defense, but also by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs! Such things are considered comprehensively. Yes
                Or didn’t Lavrov tell us about Syria? About the support of jabhat an-nusra, the armed opposition ... Or is Lavrov no longer in the Foreign Ministry?
                1. +6
                  5 November 2017 19: 28
                  Quote: Anarchist
                  Or didn’t Lavrov tell us about Syria?

                  so does Lavrov decide to start bombing the barmalei? belay Kozhugetovich nervously smoked aside laughing it turns out that the Foreign Ministry has its own intelligence and they use its data to make decisions on the deployment of troops and the deployment of bases laughing
                  1. +14
                    5 November 2017 19: 35
                    Man, just don’t need to juggle!
                    The decision was made by the commander in chief !!! Shoigu considered risks on his part, Lavrov on his own. And there were also analysts from the Ministry of Finance, etc. etc.
                    Well, first of all, it is politicians who walk the situation in the world, and this is, first and foremost, the Foreign Ministry!
                    1. +7
                      5 November 2017 19: 54
                      Quote: Anarchist
                      Lavrov with his.

                      What risks did Lavrov consider? Who will say anything at the UN?
                      Quote: Anarchist
                      Well, first of all, it is politicians who walk the situation in the world

                      that is, politicians are only ruining languages, and the Defense Ministry is engaged in real security affairs
                      1. +9
                        5 November 2017 19: 58
                        And all this together is called the Security Council
                      2. +14
                        5 November 2017 20: 09
                        It is useless to have a conversation, When you respond to shreds from my commentary, taking them out of context ... Which overturn the whole essence of what I said hi
        5. +3
          5 November 2017 19: 07
          Quote: Anarchist
          In my opinion, all This is a statement of the helplessness of the current apparatus ...

          Leave it. stop This is a statement of the dependence of the current apparatus on the dollar and its storage ...
          1. +14
            5 November 2017 19: 24
            This is all one from the other flowing ...
            They do not want to build an independent banking system! And that means they cannot touch the dollar! Otherwise, the entire financial system will collapse ...
        6. 0
          6 November 2017 05: 55
          “Previously, Franz Klintsevich, deputy chairman of the defense committee of the Federation Council, called for the restoration of the Russian military base in Cuba.”
          Klinkevich and Dzhabarov not confused?
        7. 0
          6 November 2017 06: 30
          Anarchist .......Mr. Klintsevich justifies the indecision of Mead ... Says that - "will strengthen the confrontation"? Where is stronger?

          Hurried and messed up. Reread the text calmly. It is written there: ".... Deputy Chairman of the Defense Committee of the Federation Council Franz Klintsevich spoke out for the restoration of the Russian military base in Cuba" hi



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        8. +4
          6 November 2017 10: 43
          Quote: Anarchist
          Mr. Klintsevich justifies Mead's indecision

          Yeah, that one is still mumble ...
      2. +9
        5 November 2017 18: 35
        The deployment of a Russian military base in Cuba could exacerbate relations with Washington and lead to a second Caribbean crisis,

        I WOULD PURCHASE- I WOULD LIVE IN SOCHI

        GDP FREQUENTLY “WORKS” WITH SOCHA

        BASE ON CUBA WILL HELP TO Bargain AS LIKE 55 YEARS BACK-- ALREADY REMOVE ALL THREATS FOR THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION FROM THE BALTIC REGION
        +++++ NEED TO TRANSPORT TRANSIT TO KALININGRAD (AS TO ZAP BERLIN)
        !!!!!!!! BUT THIS IS A BURDEN OF THE STRONG, NOT DEFORMATIVE
    2. +16
      5 November 2017 18: 15
      I apologize to the administration and subscribers. The video is off topic. We have our own Cuba in the DPR.

      Today, November 5, at 16:40 the Ukrainian army opened fire on the territory of the DPR from the MLRS Grad. 120 missiles were fired from the direction of Avdeevka, of which 40 in the direction of the Donetsk airport and 80 in the direction of the settlement Yakovlevka, Yasinovatsky district of the DPR, - the Representation of the DPR in the JCCC and in the negotiation process reports.
      More detailed information about the victims and the destruction is being specified.
      1. +2
        5 November 2017 18: 21
        Quote: Sith Lord
        The Ukrainian army opened fire on the territory of the DPR from the MLRS Grad.

        and will you continue to follow the “Minsk agreements” until they’ll smash it into rubble? you need to decide on something, otherwise they’ll knock it out so ... (excuse me ...)
      2. +4
        5 November 2017 19: 41
        Eh.hough about a dozen calibers would be "mistaken" and flew where necessary .. Hold on! hi
    3. +1
      5 November 2017 18: 25
      and not necessarily as a missile point, the contingent there is equal to the Baltic with the means of transfer
    4. +3
      5 November 2017 19: 21
      Quote: Dead Day
      would be oh sobering.

      Why bother with a garden? Strategic Missile Forces, being in places of permanent basing, without any (or minimal) risk, can cause unacceptable damage to the "exclusive SGA!" Not to mention the Navy, which can also make a good salvo without leaving its native harbor, covered by air defense! And so as not to forget the videoconferencing system, then they, without going beyond the borders, can well bang! And no one will be playing Khrushchev-Kennedy and the Caribbean crisis, and it’s not interesting!
    5. +3
      5 November 2017 21: 25
      The deputy head of the committee stressed that Russia must ensure its defense and security, and that the fleet of nuclear submarines that it has, and the military bases it has, “can easily cope with a sudden attack by the enemy.”


      Reading such statements by the FSB general raises questions of professional suitability, but most likely the guy has his own interests in overseas territories.
      But there is no need to make a military base in Cuba, the transport shoulder is very long, but it was necessary to restore the electronic tracking center the day before yesterday.
      1. 0
        5 November 2017 23: 28
        Is a photo with American equipment on a profile site with the signature “Soviet” normal?
    6. +7
      6 November 2017 01: 07
      wassat It is desirable Status-6 for reliability, then they will itch in a dream
    7. 0
      6 November 2017 14: 40
      In the tale, the death of Kashchei the Immortal is in the needle, and the needle is in the egg. The dollar is a needle, and the Fed is an egg.
  2. +9
    5 November 2017 18: 11
    Not for nothing that the name "Cuba" was deciphered as Communism Off the Shores of America laughing
  3. +10
    5 November 2017 18: 13
    in order to have a base in Cuba, we first need ocean fleet
    1. +5
      5 November 2017 18: 23
      Quote: Romario_Argo
      in order to have a base in Cuba, we first need ocean fleet

      soon “Kuzyu” and “Peter” will play a prank, and let's go take Omerega! Yes what do we ...
      1. +1
        5 November 2017 22: 27
        soon Kuzyu and Petra will play a prank

        we don’t need to be a shaman ...
        and urgently destroyers to build, with a large series
    2. +2
      5 November 2017 19: 11
      Quote: Romario_Argo
      to have a base in Cuba, we first need an ocean fleet

      It is enough to have good coastal anti-aircraft missile systems and air defense systems. The base can be equipped with civilian courts. The main thing here is the consent of Cuba (government and people) and the desire of our government. They (the Russian authorities) allowed to withdraw so much funds offshore that ... belay
      1. +6
        5 November 2017 19: 31
        Quote: Esoteric
        The base can be equipped with civilian courts.

        But what prevents the Sasha from introducing a military blockade and blocking the passage of ANY ships? and they will do so
        1. +2
          5 November 2017 21: 39
          Quote: LSA57
          Quote: Esoteric
          The base can be equipped with civilian courts.

          But what prevents the Sasha from introducing a military blockade and blocking the passage of ANY ships? and they will do so

          Well, why? the ocean is not the internal waters of the United States where we want there and swim
          1. +9
            5 November 2017 21: 46
            Quote: purple
            Quote: LSA57
            Quote: Esoteric
            The base can be equipped with civilian courts.

            But what prevents the Sasha from introducing a military blockade and blocking the passage of ANY ships? and they will do so

            Well, why? the ocean is not the internal waters of the United States where we want there and swim

            Floating ... a flower in the hole. Well, and you still, camping trip.
            Urgent to school:
            In October 1962, the US Navy ships established a naval blockade of Cuba [7] in the form of a quarantine zone of 500 nautical miles (926 km) around the coast of Cuba, the blockade continued until November 20, 1962

            What prevents them from doing the same now, if desired?
            The correct answer is that nothing bothers.
          2. +5
            5 November 2017 21: 52
            Quote: purple
            the ocean is not the internal waters of the United States where we want there and swim

            Teach a materiel. already entered the naval blockade of Cuba. not one ship was missed
        2. +1
          6 November 2017 00: 13
          [i] but what prevents the Sasha from introducing a military blockade and blocking the passage of ANY ships? and they will do so [/ i
          So it was in 1961, they tried to close ... But when our submarine surfaced in the blockade of the bulk carrier, the Americans quietly parted ... According to the stories of eyewitnesses from the bulk carrier, two comrades were there.
      2. +1
        6 November 2017 14: 48
        If you add to the offshore what our gentlemen are holding to the country for "small, pocket" expenses. that would be enough not only for the base in Cuba, but also in some places.
    3. +2
      5 November 2017 19: 15
      Quote: Romario_Argo
      in order to have a base in Cuba, we first need ocean fleet

      And above all, vehicles on which you can carry military equipment in commodity quantities .. Now there’s nothing stupid to organize the delivery of everything you need to ensure security .. So yes, it’s too early to return to Cuba .. but .. it would not be too late. ..
  4. +17
    5 November 2017 18: 14
    Post and as soon as possible. I have the honor.
    1. +13
      5 November 2017 18: 31
      Quote: midshipman
      Post and as soon as possible. I have the honor.

      ABOUT ! our generation! hi
    2. +17
      5 November 2017 18: 35
      "... the new deployment of a Russian military base on Liberty Island can only provoke Americans to militant steps" against Russia, the Caribbean crisis could repeat itself ... "

      In fact, the Caribbean crisis is not only due to the deployment of our missiles in Cuba. For our part, it was a response to the deployment of missiles with US nuclear weapons in Turkey.
      And now, what is better? NATO is on our borders, there is no Warsaw Pact. This is not just rockets in Turkey, it is the preparation of an invasion. And if you do not give adequate answers on time, then they will continue to become impudent. These people do not recognize any agreements, they are only afraid of a real military threat to their own territory.
      And our senators are all afraid of worsening relations with the states. Or are they afraid of their own bills and real estate there?
      1. +9
        5 November 2017 18: 43
        Quote: Reserve officer
        And our senators are all afraid of worsening relations with the states. Or are they afraid of their own bills and real estate there?

        Burn Lech, napalm! good drinks
      2. +5
        5 November 2017 22: 52
        Quote: Reserve officer
        And our senators are all afraid of worsening relations with the states.

        Are there only senators ?! All Russian type to know.
    3. +8
      5 November 2017 18: 54
      Quote: midshipman
      Post and as soon as possible. I have the honor.

      But how to deliver there, weapons, food, ammunition and much more? Sasha is there. block us oxygen that two fingers on the asphalt
    4. +12
      5 November 2017 18: 59
      Quote: midshipman
      Post and as soon as possible. I have the honor.

      ... and brains atrophied.
      If the Cuban leadership is against the deployment of such a base - what do you propose doing? fool
      1. +12
        5 November 2017 19: 02
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        ... and the brains atrophied.

        not be rude. "Midshipman", he did something for the country, you, before his "atrophied brains", have more than one life to crawl backwards ...
        1. +7
          5 November 2017 19: 03
          Quote: LSA57
          But how to deliver there, weapons, food, ammunition and much more? Sasha is there. block us oxygen that two fingers on the asphalt

          who is there, so frostbitten that our BDK with an escort will search? Syria did not find such.
          1. +6
            5 November 2017 19: 33
            Quote: Dead Day
            who is there, so frostbitten that our BDK with an escort will search?

            and will he bring a lot there? and it will be necessary to carry constantly. this is not a donbass humanitarian convoy send
          2. +2
            5 November 2017 22: 39
            by the way, about the BDK, the timing of the descent of the BDK Ave. 11711 "Peter Morgunov" again demolished "to the right"
            and as for supplying our "possible base" in Cuba, so with us so far except SRZK Ave. 864 "Victor Leonov" and "Karelia" - there is nothing
            only if, can than PAO Sovcomflot help
        2. +10
          5 November 2017 19: 31
          Quote: Dead Day
          midshipman did something for the country

          Honor and praise be for him.
          Quote: Dead Day
          you, to his "atrophied brains" not one life still crawl backwards

          I don’t have such a goal, I keep my brains in order ... though, for about twenty years, for an estimate, I’m midshipman younger.
          Quote: Dead Day
          not to be rude

          The statement of a medical fact is not rudeness. Refute.
          Quote: midshipman
          Post as soon as possible

          Rave? Yes stopudovo Yes
        3. +11
          5 November 2017 21: 44
          Quote: Dead Day
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          ... and the brains atrophied.

          not be rude. "Midshipman", he did something for the country, you, before his "atrophied brains", have more than one life to crawl backwards ...

          I would say not only "something" ... hi good Yes
      2. +7
        5 November 2017 19: 04
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        What do you propose?

        to answer them with angry posts in VO how badly Lavrov does (what does he have to do with it?), the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Ministry of Defense, and generally everything
        1. +5
          5 November 2017 19: 38
          Sergey, hi , how do they know (to all polymers) what is in our sea containers ...
          1. +6
            5 November 2017 19: 58
            Quote: sabakina
            how do they know (all-polymers) what is in our sea containers ...

            and they don’t need to know. just declare a blockade and that’s it. how are we sanctions.
            1. +1
              5 November 2017 21: 41
              blockade ... yes to the blockade, will they really start drowning?
              ps change the avatar .. does not go
              1. +6
                5 November 2017 21: 57
                Quote: purple
                ps change the avatar .. does not go

                and best of all without an avatar. Anonymous without his views. and do not point me. otherwise I would advise ... not a threat, warning!
          2. 0
            6 November 2017 22: 31
            They have intelligence, and sooner or later we will begin to drain information.
    5. +12
      5 November 2017 21: 41
      Quote: midshipman
      Post and as soon as possible. I have the honor.

      hi Finally, a serious and concise opinion without reasoning: the Ministry of Foreign Affairs cannot, decides, does not solve, everything in dollars has nowhere to go, etc.
      Midshipman With Respect to You hi !
  5. +11
    5 November 2017 18: 17
    why American soldiers can look at our borders, but there is no our military personnel — this is an unfortunate injustice .... that needs to be changed, let them be afraid of the answers of the moment .....
    1. +5
      5 November 2017 18: 28
      Quote: anjey
      why American soldiers can look at our borders, but there is no our military personnel — this is an unfortunate injustice .... that needs to be changed, let them be afraid of the answers of the moment .....

      Well, suppose you can admire from Chukotka. But from Cuba, even Florida is not visible. 90 miles distance.
      1. +3
        5 November 2017 18: 46
        and the Yankees are viewing us from almost all borders ...., you understand the ring of anaconda ...
        1. +1
          6 November 2017 22: 34
          In particular, the Kaliningrad province love to watch live.
  6. +15
    5 November 2017 18: 19
    It seems that they have begun to feel public opinion, it is necessary to check them for lice, at the same time and reaction. I am for.
    1. +8
      5 November 2017 18: 28
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      I am for.

      noted ... hi
      1. +10
        5 November 2017 20: 02
        Mutually ...drinks
    2. +8
      5 November 2017 18: 39
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      It seems like they have begun to probe public opinion,

      It seems that you have too good an opinion about the Russian elites ... It is unlikely that they are interested in "public opinion". Their opinion depends on their own money stored in the United States.
      1. +7
        5 November 2017 20: 09
        I have a mixed opinion about the Russian elite; in the text I had in mind bourgeois public opinion wink
  7. +9
    5 November 2017 18: 20
    And did anyone ask Cubans whether they want a Russian base or not? request
    1. +3
      5 November 2017 18: 26
      and from this, let Lavrov’s headache in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
      1. +7
        5 November 2017 18: 32
        Quote: Romario_Argo
        and from this, let Lavrov’s headache in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs

        And what about Lavrov? Most recently, they also said the same thing: how are we going to place a military base in Vietnam right now ... And? What did Vietnam answer to this?
        1. +2
          6 November 2017 00: 23
          And what about Lavrov? Most recently, they also said the same thing: how are we going to place a military base in Vietnam right now ... And? What did Vietnam answer to this?
          Is this what Kamrani wanted to restore the base? I have not heard, but it's time. And what did Vietnam answer?
        2. 0
          6 November 2017 09: 02
          Quote: analgin
          Quote: Romario_Argo
          and from this, let Lavrov’s headache in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs

          And what about Lavrov? Most recently, they also said the same thing: how are we going to place a military base in Vietnam right now ... And? What did Vietnam answer to this?

          And so he answered
          Vietnam ruled out the appearance of a Russian military base in the country

          https://www.gazeta.ru/army/news/9215171.shtml
      2. +6
        5 November 2017 18: 57
        Quote: Romario_Argo
        and from this, let Lavrov’s headache in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs

        and if sent by forest? Throw "Topol"? economically Cuba doesn’t depend on us in any way
    2. +1
      5 November 2017 18: 28
      Quote: analgin
      And did anyone ask Cubans whether they want a Russian base or not? request

      so what ?
    3. NKT
      +3
      5 November 2017 20: 16
      30 billion. $ We wrote off to them .... do not appreciate?
    4. +2
      5 November 2017 21: 02
      Quote: analgin
      And did anyone ask Cubans whether they want a Russian base or not? request

      are you cuban
  8. +8
    5 November 2017 18: 22
    Oh, what’s so bad, Mr. Dzhabarov belay Americans are not afraid to place their missile defense near the borders of Russia, fearing to ruin relations with it wink
    And the base will be a kind of reminder that the time of the orgy is already behind. The gun at the temple is kind.
    And then it’s completely reckless and not afraid of steel lol
  9. +8
    5 November 2017 18: 22
    Placing Russian military base in Cuba could aggravate relations with Washington
    and now we have pink snot what
    1. +2
      5 November 2017 21: 06
      Quote: izya top
      and now we have pink snot
      I wouldn’t step on the same rake .... it’s better to help raise the Cuban economy and give me the opportunity to defend myself and receive dividends from this ..... and they will die out completely with our missiles .... and it’s better to do it from the USA this together will be better for everyone ..... good
      1. +2
        5 November 2017 21: 09
        Quote: XXXIII
        and do it better from the usa together, it will be better for everyone .....

        do you mean us all?
        Quote: XXXIII
        It’s better to help boost Cuba’s economy and enable it to protect itself and receive dividends from it ...

        they already helped us with this ... that the result is unsatisfactory (not to say even worse)
        1. +1
          5 November 2017 21: 22
          Quote: izya top
          do you mean us all?
          Cuba is building relations with the United States, we need current help in this matter, we are the most powerful diplomats ... Yes
          they already helped us in this ...
          Well, do not go headlong into the pool, but approach this issue capitalistically ... hit the American burger with a Russian burger ... lol
          1. +2
            5 November 2017 21: 51
            Quote: XXXIII
            Well, do not go headlong into the pool, but approach this issue capitalistically ... hit the American burger with a Russian burger ..

            they have only one rule in this respect - everything is possible for me, but to you - what I will allow
            1. +2
              5 November 2017 21: 56
              Quote: izya top
              they have only one rule in this respect - everything is possible for me, but to you - what I will allow
              weapons will be negotiating here, we already understood that ....
      2. +2
        6 November 2017 22: 43
        An impossible task, since the location of this state for the USA is equal to our Ukraine, and no one will drag the burden of restoring the economy of CUBA. We have our own economy in recession. The USA is not honey either, they are in search of someone else to rob and force to work for themselves to ensure the recovery of their own economy.
  10. +11
    5 November 2017 18: 24
    Dzhabarov told what could be the deployment of the Russian military base in Cuba
    Yes, I agree that the respected general ... can fit in ten chairs. this is his conquest. But Russia's interests lie on a different plane. Sovereignty. And if someone tramples on him, he should receive a mirror answer.
    Only then can we sleep peacefully.
  11. 0
    5 November 2017 18: 24
    and the threat of placing a full-time base on a cube?
    1. +1
      5 November 2017 18: 31
      Cuba has a us base - guantanamo
    2. +1
      5 November 2017 18: 40
      Quote: seregatara1969
      and the threat of placing a full-time base on a cube?

      Our regrets from the Foreign Ministry. No more.
    3. +7
      5 November 2017 18: 50
      Even more respect for Russia
  12. 0
    5 November 2017 18: 24
    Dzhabarov not mishandled Cossacks wink
  13. +9
    5 November 2017 18: 26
    Let's start from the beginning. Does Jabarov have money abroad (real estate, stocks)?
    Ruble - for a hundred that is. Pending confiscation, what can he say about America? Naturally, a base in Cuba is not needed, and so on. It would be our FSB right-isolated all potential friends of America in power.
    1. +4
      5 November 2017 19: 37
      Quote: SarS
      Does Jabarov have money abroad (real estate, stocks)?

      I'm sorry, but why do you think the FSB General is complete idiots who hide their money abroad, knowing that they can be arrested at any time? Well, since you know about it, he doesn’t know?
      1. +2
        5 November 2017 21: 05
        Quote: LSA57
        Quote: SarS
        Does Jabarov have money abroad (real estate, stocks)?

        I'm sorry, but why do you think the FSB General is complete idiots who hide their money abroad, knowing that they can be arrested at any time? Well, since you know about it, he doesn’t know?

        Dzhabarov surname .... well, he’s such a “general” ..... like from an amn bullet .... with such statements ...
        1. +5
          5 November 2017 21: 40
          Quote: purple
          . as from amna bullet .... with such statements ...

          oh how belay The president, a former KGB-FSB officer, holds in the generals an incompetent person who expressed a point of view that does not correspond to the opinion of the VO subscriber. Well then, here on the site, who disagree with you amno?
  14. +11
    5 November 2017 18: 28
    If this is possible, then it is imperative to deploy a Russian military base in Cuba. Whether mattresses like it or not, no one will ask for their opinions. They want to negotiate, they themselves will come running. From such a placement, the striped ability will only dramatically improve.
    1. +4
      5 November 2017 20: 00
      Quote: Egorovich
      If this is possible, then it is imperative to deploy a Russian military base in Cuba.

      Well, probably the keyword IF? and IF Cubans are against?
      1. +1
        5 November 2017 20: 02
        Quote: LSA57
        Quote: Egorovich
        If this is possible, then it is imperative to deploy a Russian military base in Cuba.

        Well, probably the keyword IF? and IF Cubans are against?

        But why do the Cubans?
        1. +4
          5 November 2017 20: 23
          Quote: analgin
          But why do the Cubans?

          what?
      2. +9
        5 November 2017 20: 38
        Most likely Cuba will not mind, they will receive a big and good jackpot for this. This Russia will calculate whether we need it.
        1. +4
          5 November 2017 21: 43
          Quote: Egorovich
          they will get a big and good jackpot for this

          get a good return as Poles and image in a gay2rop who posted a missile sasha. it means they are there, that they have set up foreign rockets in themselves, and the Cubans are well done? laughing and who else was talking about double standards?
  15. +8
    5 November 2017 18: 29
    NATO troops treading water at our borders, and General Jabarov is afraid to upset American comrades with our base in Cuba
  16. +13
    5 November 2017 18: 31
    It seems that Dzhabarov confirmed the famous statement of the American Brzezinski ... Since then, only the amount “stored” by Russian elites in the United States has increased.
    1. +2
      5 November 2017 19: 48
      Quote: Fedya2017
      Since then, only the amount “stored” by Russian elites in the United States has increased.

      Do you have account numbers, or is that an assumption?
      1. +9
        5 November 2017 20: 22
        Quote: Victor-M
        Do you have account numbers, or is that an assumption?

        This is a troll, do not get fooled ...
        1. 0
          5 November 2017 21: 00
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          This is a troll, do not get fooled ..

          Are you broadcasting from Olgino? Or "for no reason"? ...
          1. +9
            5 November 2017 21: 03
            Quote: Fedya2017
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            This is a troll, do not get fooled ..

            Are you broadcasting from Olgino? Or "for no reason"? ...

            Think how you prefer. You are not interesting for me request
            1. +1
              5 November 2017 21: 49
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Think how you prefer. You are not interesting for me

              Uninteresting, but for some reason you are writing about me to a third party ... And how do you feel about someone who will say something similar about you? Do you recognize only two opinions - “His” and “Not right”?! ...
              1. +10
                5 November 2017 22: 03
                I will feed, so be it, once again:
                Quote: Fedya2017
                Uninteresting, but for some reason you are writing about me to a third party.

                Everything is clearly written there, in my opinion. No?
                The question is rhetorical, no need to answer.
                Quote: Fedya2017
                And how do you feel about someone who will say something like that about you?

                I'm exactly. Already claimed and continue. They don’t violate their rights, they don’t break the rules ... but I don’t give a damn, I know everything about myself Yes

                Quote: Fedya2017
                Do you recognize only two opinions - “His” and “Not right” ?!

                Wrong - together ... shkolota.
                You have no "opinion." And the training manual, by which you have been scurrying around here, has been using it for five years now ... the same are not so close to you.
                All. I won’t feed anymore, untie two bast shoes stop
                1. +2
                  6 November 2017 00: 08
                  "Wrong - together ... shkolota." ----- Dear "teacher", for your information - when in the text of one sentence is written or REPRESENTED within the meaning of OPPOSITION, for example - two opposing opinions of "Own" (that is, "correct"), and "Not own" ( ie “not correct”), the particle “Not” is written SEPARATELY with the word, but not together. If I wrote, like - "Your opinion
                  wrong, "SEPARATELY then you would be right. But, alas, to you ...
                  .................................................
                  .................................................
                  ........................
                  ........ Take your bast shoes and do not lose on the go.
                  1. +1
                    6 November 2017 20: 52
                    Quote: Fedya2017
                    "Wrong - together ... shkolota." ----- Dear "teacher", for your information - when in the text of one sentence is written or REPRESENTED within the meaning of OPPOSITION, for example - two opposing opinions of "Own" (that is, "correct"), and "Not own" ( ie “not correct”), the particle “Not” is written SEPARATELY with the word, but not together. If I wrote, like - "Your opinion
                    wrong, "SEPARATELY then you would be right. But, alas, to you ...

                    In which vocational school did you study Russian? laughing
                    What is the confrontation in one sentence? belay
                    I do not know how to do it right, but you're doing wrong.
                    Confrontation? Yes. In one sentence? Yes. So why is it together?
                    I spend an educational program: we write the word "wrong" together, except when a comma and the union "a" follow immediately after this word.
                    examples:
                    Wheel set not properlybut randomly.
                    Your point of view not correct, but erroneous.
                    If you try to do everything right, then in some cases it may turn out completely not properlyand vice versa wrong.
                    Teacher said not properlyand vice versa wrongto draw students to a common mistake.
                    You really, in the elite ranks, connoisseurs of the Russian language do not mess around with your .... education! negative
                    1. 0
                      6 November 2017 22: 45
                      Quote: AllXVahhaB
                      You really, in the elite ranks, connoisseurs of the Russian language do not panic, with your .... education

                      Not ..., I'm in the same row with you. But your bast shoes, still do not lose ...
                      1. +1
                        7 November 2017 03: 59
                        Quote: Fedya2017
                        Not ..., I'm in the same row with you.

                        So why are you climbing then? Are you being held here forcibly? Or are you here for work, as many say?
                        Quote: Fedya2017
                        But your bast shoes, still do not lose ...

                        Apparently, they do not write about this in manuals. So I’ll explain: a joke (and not only) repeated twice - stupidity, repeated three times - a diagnosis ().
                        So try to diversify your syllable. Use various postulates. Do not repeat the same thing from post to post. And then look ...
              2. 0
                6 November 2017 20: 38
                Quote: Fedya2017
                Do you recognize only two opinions - “His” and “Not right”?! ...

                Not quite so: "Ours" and "Alien"!
                1. 0
                  8 November 2017 00: 07
                  Quote: AllXVahhaB
                  Not quite so: "Ours" and "Alien"!

                  Is this your doctor? It can be seen that the good guy ... To the Internet allows you ...
                  1. 0
                    8 November 2017 03: 21
                    Quote: Fedya2017
                    Is this your doctor? It can be seen that the good guy ... To the Internet allows you ...

                    negative
      2. 0
        5 November 2017 20: 57
        Quote: Victor-M
        Do you have account numbers, or is that an assumption?

        In February, Trump promises to expose and confiscate. Do you have a lot to keep there?
        1. 0
          6 November 2017 20: 56
          Quote: Fedya2017
          In February, Trump promises to expose and confiscate.

    2. +1
      6 November 2017 20: 36
      Quote: Fedya2017
      It seems that Dzhabarov confirmed the famous statement of the American Brzezinski ...

      Shitty collage. Putin doesn’t even have offshore accounts, Yeltsin is dead, is the rest the Russian elite? Is Abramovich deciding who to strike a nuclear strike at? Bullshit!
  17. +8
    5 November 2017 18: 34
    It’s as if the Yankees and I are now just fabulously great! fool It’s necessary not to shake with fear, like a given sir, but just like the United States, just defend the interests of your country! am And by the way, with such thoughts the general needs to think at least about a change of duty, or honestly resign! !!
  18. +5
    5 November 2017 18: 36
    Quote: Million
    NATO troops treading water at our borders, and General Jabarov is afraid to upset American comrades with our base in Cuba

    As if the general hadn’t missed one place. The Russian Federation is under siege of their bases and lackeys, and in Cuba, nothing is lower for us - all this is somehow strange. bully
    1. +5
      5 November 2017 20: 25
      Quote: Vlad5307
      Cuba doesn’t mean anything to us; all this is somehow strange.

      maybe you forgot that Cuba is a sovereign state and at least they need permission to ask
  19. +1
    5 November 2017 18: 45
    And in Nicaragua and Cuba, missile defense against DPRK missiles. This is the same as missile defense in Romania and Poland from Iran missiles. America understands only power.
  20. BVS
    +3
    5 November 2017 18: 46
    Quote: SarS
    Let's start from the beginning. Does Jabarov have money abroad (real estate, stocks)?
    Ruble - for a hundred that is. Pending confiscation, what can he say about America? Naturally, a base in Cuba is not needed, and so on. It would be our FSB right-isolated all potential friends of America in power.

    And if this FSB general will sue you in our independent Basmanny court for libel (the assertion that the general has something in the US territory), then you will prove how?
    1. +4
      5 November 2017 19: 38
      Quote: bvs
      , then you will prove how?

      already proven. "I give a ruble for a hundred"
    2. +5
      5 November 2017 19: 51
      Counterclaim in Sverdlovsk. How do you like this idea?
    3. +2
      5 November 2017 21: 07
      Quote: bvs
      Quote: SarS
      Let's start from the beginning. Does Jabarov have money abroad (real estate, stocks)?
      Ruble - for a hundred that is. Pending confiscation, what can he say about America? Naturally, a base in Cuba is not needed, and so on. It would be our FSB right-isolated all potential friends of America in power.

      And if this FSB general will sue you in our independent Basmanny court for libel (the assertion that the general has something in the US territory), then you will prove how?

      let him prove first ... but there will be no evidence ... that he is already corrupt
      1. +4
        5 November 2017 21: 48
        Quote: purple
        let him prove first ..

        about the presumption of innocence means not by hearing not by spirit
        Quote: purple
        but there will be no evidence ...

        somewhere I've heard this before ... it seems that the fenders are responding to us like that. and they also say, "There is evidence, but we won’t show it to you."
        Quote: purple
        the fact that he is corrupt is already clear

        where from? OBS agency said?
  21. +9
    5 November 2017 18: 46
    But the Americans do not worry at all that they will aggravate relations with Russia, strangling it with their bases from all sides! Oh, the eternal Russian "as if something did not work out ...". There is no hardness, that's why everything is done in one place.
  22. +5
    5 November 2017 18: 49
    Dzhabarova-to the wall! As a scum corrupt.
    1. +4
      5 November 2017 19: 18
      Quote: bulbash70
      Dzhabarova-to the wall! As a scum corrupt.

      It's time to return to the articles "For treason to the motherland ..."
    2. +6
      5 November 2017 19: 40
      Quote: bulbash70
      Dzhabarova-to the wall! As a scum corrupt.

      because Cuba does not want our base?
      1. +1
        5 November 2017 21: 43
        Quote: LSA57
        Quote: bulbash70
        Dzhabarova-to the wall! As a scum corrupt.

        because Cuba does not want our base?

        Do not mislead people ... Cuba wants our base ...
        1. +4
          5 November 2017 22: 02
          Quote: purple
          Cuba wants our base ...

          where is this ????? where and to whom did they say that ?????
  23. +4
    5 November 2017 18: 56
    You can be afraid to spoil a damaged relationship when you are generally afraid of something to answer and are looking for an excuse.
  24. +8
    5 November 2017 19: 02
    Cuba is ready, the Americans again showed them nevermind, if only our more, to put it mildly, did not fail their Cuban comrades.
    1. +3
      5 November 2017 19: 23
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      Cuba is ready, the Americans again showed them nevermind, if only our more, to put it mildly, did not fail their Cuban comrades.

      While the oligarchs are at the helm of our economy ... And with Cuba, you can establish such good relations that the United States will simply choke on its bile. In Cuba, good medicine, you can borrow the experience of Cuban doctors ... Although ... if they pay ours, the profession of a doctor will again become prestigious. But, Cuba is a potential market for Russian goods and technologies ... Like the DPRK ...
      1. +8
        5 November 2017 19: 40
        I completely agree, this will entail even greater economic cooperation, if only we would not stop halfway.
  25. +4
    5 November 2017 19: 03
    repeating "Anadyr" now will be difficult: there are many reasons, from the state of the fleet to the political will of both our leaders and Cuban ... and even the Venezuelan (as an option to deploy the base) .... would Fidel and Chavez ... ...
  26. +4
    5 November 2017 19: 09
    ""The new deployment of a Russian military base on Liberty Island can only provoke Americans to militant steps" in relation to Russia"...

    Hmm .... And where to further provoke it? They have already surrounded Russia so much that it remains only to really start a hot war ...
    The only thing we can agree with him (the senator) is that at least Cuba would first be asked if she would let Russia into her home with a new military base ...
    And again, idle talk: base, base ... And right away they put rockets in the photo ... But the base in Lourdes was that, missile ???
  27. +4
    5 November 2017 19: 23
    No rockets needed. There was a wonderful center for tracking amers, it annoyed the Yankees very much. Cuba still received a normal rent for him, and from this we must start again. And then cover up defenseless "signalmen" humanly, with tanks and airplanes. Troll even more amers. You look, they will think. So, slowly, without sudden movements, turn around in Cuba to its full height. Americans from Europe put a gun at our temple. To calm their arrogance is only our gun, which is placed against their forehead. Let them get used to the idea that we are near)
    1. +4
      5 November 2017 19: 42
      Everyone is discussing this issue, as if it was up to us. You might think that the Cubans have already sent the invitation, but ours are thinking whether to place it or not.
  28. +9
    5 November 2017 19: 32
    The first deputy head of the committee of the Russian Federation Council for Defense and Security, Franz Klintsevich, believes that Russia should restore its military base in Cuba.
    “I believe that every effort should be made, but our base in Cuba - a naval and aviation complex - should be. This is a key moment, ”said Klintsevich.
    But this person has the right to make official statements, which means that everything is agreed upon and when meeting with Tramplin, they will somehow be voiced.
    1. +2
      5 November 2017 22: 51
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      Klintsevich believes that Russia should restore its military base in Cuba

      What base needs to be RESTORED? We in Cuba did not have stationary bases, except for the electronic intelligence center in Lourdes.
      1. +9
        5 November 2017 23: 39
        Quote: Piramidon
        We in Cuba did not have stationary bases, except for the electronic intelligence center in Lourdes

        Do not scare the stravus, the floor is concreted ...
        I bet most of the "patriotic" comments that are written here are about "necessary-right-now-right now" and such words have been heard - Lourdes ...
        And so what and why was there, and why it was removed from there - this is a mystery for them with seven seals.
        But opinion - have (s) belay
  29. +1
    5 November 2017 19: 35
    I do not think that this is the best option, it can increase the confrontation between Russia and the United States,
    noted senator.
    The United States is not hesitating to place any weapons and contingents near our borders, and God forgive me, Senator speaks of a possible increase in confrontation if our troops are deployed in Cuba! The question is, why the hell do we need such senators ?! sad
  30. DPN
    +1
    5 November 2017 19: 35
    Maybe enough to be cowardly, unless of course the CUBA is not opposed and will believe Russia.
  31. +4
    5 November 2017 19: 41
    "The deployment of a Russian military base in Cuba could aggravate relations with Washington and lead to a second Caribbean crisis, RIA Novosti reports the opinion of the deputy head of the international committee of the Federation Council, FSB general Vladimir Dzhabarov" ... something is not clear ... but he’s actually a senator of whose power ... that he cares so much about the USA. It is up to us and the Cubans to resolve this issue if there is no base there and the confrontation ends with the USA ... something like this is not expected. The experience of Syria has shown ... that it is not necessary to do anything global ... Caliber in ground execution will be enough ... well, missile defense, air defense, and electronic warfare were ordered by God ... a little VKS ... to cover our Bears and Swans.
  32. +2
    5 November 2017 19: 44
    The balance of nuclear forces is not at all what it was during the Caribbean crisis.

    And the threshold of pain sensitivity on the contrary greatly decreased. If then 3 intercontinental R-7 + were scared of a certain number of RSD in Cuba - and, without warheads, now they are even more afraid of nuclear confrontation.

    But any other confrontation may well be.
  33. +1
    5 November 2017 19: 47
    And if the amers succeeded, they would have created a base there tomorrow and they would have nevermind on someone’s opinion! You don’t have to go there right away with the whole arsenal, quiet glanders ...
  34. 0
    5 November 2017 19: 49
    Quote: Evrodav
    And if the amers succeeded, they would have created a base there tomorrow and they would have nevermind on someone’s opinion! You don’t have to go there right away with the whole arsenal, quiet glanders ...

    PS: and the words of this leader are given some sort of rotten !!!
  35. BVS
    +1
    5 November 2017 19: 51
    Quote: Esoteric
    Quote: ul_vitalii
    Cuba is ready, the Americans again showed them nevermind, if only our more, to put it mildly, did not fail their Cuban comrades.

    While the oligarchs are at the helm of our economy ... And with Cuba, you can establish such good relations that the United States will simply choke on its bile. In Cuba, good medicine, you can borrow the experience of Cuban doctors ... Although ... if they pay ours, the profession of a doctor will again become prestigious. But, Cuba is a potential market for Russian goods and technologies ... Like the DPRK ...

    And how will Cuba pay for Russian goods, again on credit, and then debt relief? It has already been, it has already passed. In 2014, the president of Russia, on the eve of his official visit to the country, generously wrote off 90% (or $ 31,7 billion) of Cuba's enormous debt to the USSR of $ 35,2 billion.
    1. +7
      5 November 2017 20: 30
      These losses can be many times greater, since the additional placement of one full-blooded division at its borders will require significant funds, it is better to play ahead of the curve and away from the borders, here is politics, not business. Otherwise, by expanding our activities overseas, we can ease the pressure its borders (as a subject of negotiations).
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      1. +1
        5 November 2017 21: 50
        Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
        Quote: Ilja2016
        In Cuba, the base should be required. And it is advisable to create bases throughout South America

        Due de laughing neg from the sale of your apartment ...

        live on a removable chtoli laughing laughing
        Base to be! But the ovs must be attacked proactively ... Stop-up there is a mess worse than ours, in the military sphere, now they are not ready, and will not be able to answer.
        If you delay, they will choke us economically, it’s also a war ... but they do not die from it right away, but gradually ... no one pays attention to it.
        But she is already coming!
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  37. +1
    5 November 2017 19: 54
    Quote: Radikal
    I do not think that this is the best option, it can increase the confrontation between Russia and the United States,
    noted senator.
    The United States is not hesitating to place any weapons and contingents near our borders, and God forgive me, Senator speaks of a possible increase in confrontation if our troops are deployed in Cuba! The question is, why the hell do we need such senators ?! sad

    Agree
  38. BVS
    +2
    5 November 2017 19: 56
    Quote: Evrodav
    And if the amers succeeded, they would have created a base there tomorrow and they would have nevermind on someone’s opinion! You don’t have to go there right away with the whole arsenal, quiet glanders ...

    The American military base in Cuba was and is Guantanamo. The base in Guantanamo Bay (English Guantanamo Bay Naval Base) is a US naval base rented in 1903 after the Spanish-American War in the Gulf of Guantanamo Bay (Cuba) [1], 30 km from the city of the same name.
  39. +1
    5 November 2017 20: 10
    It is about restoring a military intelligence center, and not about deploying weapons there. Well, Dzhabarov, what can you take from him? Apparently sitting on a choke from the mattresses .. drinks
  40. +1
    5 November 2017 20: 21
    place, unambiguously place
  41. +10
    5 November 2017 20: 29
    Therefore, the final answer is still not for the politicians, but for the military experts and the Supreme Commander.


    This is just a reminder to our partners not to bury themselves.
  42. +3
    5 November 2017 20: 35
    Anarchist,
    Then back to the question - Why is there no point in rockets in Cuba?
    And then you somehow contradict yourself ...

    1) Because Russia is not going to attack the United States.
    2) Based on paragraph 1, they will be destroyed there before they launch.
    1. +13
      6 November 2017 00: 46
      So not for an attack! To contain! By your logic and in the country, nuclear weapons do not need to be stored, since we are not going to attack? And in order to have time to launch missiles from the island of Cuba, they came up with ...

      Scold excuses, by golly ...
      1. +8
        6 November 2017 00: 51
        Quote: Anarchist
        And in order to have time to launch missiles from the island of Cuba, they invented

        For those who were bitten ... I won’t say who - again:
        Did someone call you to Cuba? Who and when, if called?
  43. +2
    5 November 2017 20: 42
    Let Dzhabarov prepare khachapuri in his own kitchen, and they can figure out politics without him. The USA does not think that they complicate relations with the Russian Federation by deploying their missile defense systems, and now Tomahawk cruise missiles, and Russia will respond in a mirror the actions of the United States are supposedly impossible ... Your advice, Jabarov, doesn’t suit us ... You better give advice to your government in Uzbekistan, but in Russia it’s full of local people who will decide how to live without advice of foreigners.
    1. +1
      5 November 2017 21: 09
      Quote: Nemesis
      and in Russia there are a lot of local people who will decide how to live without the advice of foreigners.

      When did the local population in Russia decide how to live? ...
      1. +2
        5 November 2017 23: 15
        Well, without the advice of the Uzbeks who turned a huge modern aviation plant in Tashkent into a pasture for sheep, Russia will definitely do. Besides, there is no longer a scoop and representatives of its indigenous population, and not migrants, should lead Russia. In countries such as Nepal and the UAE, even the citizenship of the country has only descendants of marriages between the representatives of the indigenous population of these countries and no one considers this to be something not normal. It’s not normal to give your country an insult to foreigners.
        1. +1
          6 November 2017 01: 00
          Quote: Nemesis
          Well, without the advice of the Uzbeks

          But am I really an Uzbek ???! ... I’m generally parallel to what these Uzbeks turned their factories there. I see what many factories in my Russia have turned into.
          Quote: Nemesis
          It’s not normal to give your country outrage to foreigners.

          This is a question for the Kremlin sitters ... Why do they allow them to import into Russia echelons of different migrant workers? In addition to "also Russians" ...
          1. +2
            6 November 2017 01: 08
            This question arises not only with you, and we all know the answer to it. Ruble patriotism does not suffer and has long been making money on everything, including the destruction of Russia. But this is a slightly different topic ... There is a conversation that Dzhabarov and others like him, unable to restore order and boost the economy in their homeland, constantly go to Russia to give (smart) advice, without which the indigenous population of Russia will completely manage. ...
  44. +1
    5 November 2017 20: 42
    I think that it’s more urgent in Cuba to deploy not missiles, but the RT radio and radio station. So it will be more effective.
    1. 0
      6 November 2017 04: 28
      and litter the broadcasts of RT
  45. +1
    5 November 2017 20: 53
    Dzhabarov recalled that in the history of relations between the USSR and the USA there was already a Caribbean crisis. According to him, "a new deployment of a Russian military base on Liberty Island can only provoke Americans to take militant steps" against Russia, "the Caribbean crisis may repeat itself."

    Another henchman of the empirialists, sold out to the American military not otherwise ....
    It depends on which WB it will be stationed there, the deployment of a limited contingent of the RF Armed Forces will be enough - a naval aviation aerodrome, a naval airborne defense base and a reconnaissance center with a radar (observation of surface and underwater conditions at sea, radio interception stations - an analogue of the Anglo-American Echelon system), more Do not need...
  46. 0
    5 November 2017 21: 00
    Soviet missile in Cuba

    And what is the American tractor pictured in the photo? Obviously not KrAZik ....
  47. +7
    5 November 2017 21: 07
    The deployment of missiles in Cuba is the last century, Status-6 is our century, only we delicately need to explain what it is, exists and works.
  48. +1
    5 November 2017 21: 07
    Quote: Esoteric
    Quote: bulbash70
    Dzhabarova-to the wall! As a scum corrupt.

    It's time to return to the articles "For treason to the motherland ..."

    he has no homeland ....
  49. 0
    5 November 2017 21: 10
    Quote: ul_vitalii
    The deployment of missiles in Cuba is the last century, Status-6 is our century, only we delicately need to explain what it is, exists and works.

    need to demonstrate .... on the pacific coast of the usa
  50. +3
    5 November 2017 21: 11
    Why these disputes? The price for such a base is well known --- to contain the Cuban economy. Will we also extend Cuba? No, that’s all.
    Or do you think the Cubans are from an old friendship, but for the cause of the world revolution are they ready to draw a white cross on their backs? So no one attacks them, and even vice versa --- they make business offers.
    "missiles in Cuba" is from the same opera as the "Nicaraguan Canal" --- an unreal thing.
    1. +3
      5 November 2017 21: 25
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      Or do you think the Cubans are from an old friendship, but for the cause of the world revolution are they ready to draw a white cross on their backs?

      it’s been painted all their lives ... one less than one less what difference .... if you shake yourself at the word USA it is not necessary to transfer to others
      1. +4
        5 November 2017 21: 50
        Quote: purple
        ... one less than one less what difference ....

        The Cubans don’t care, they actually need up to 5 billion a year to invest, so that the economy doesn’t stagnate. Due to the reduction in the supply of almost free Venezuelan oil, this figure is increasing. Cubans sell 90% of their sugar and tobacco to the United States, remittances to the island from the USA, former compatriots make up a considerable share in the country's economy, the American telecom and American tourism to the island begins to develop, which is also the currency. And here it is proposed to refuse all this, and for what and who will compensate, will Rotenberg send them money? then we all throw bold slogans, be rude and tear America. And as you get into these numbers, only rudeness doubles, and there is nothing more to say in response.
        1. +1
          5 November 2017 22: 01
          How did they live before that ... oh oh oh
          according to your sources, Russia should already be a long time ago.
          where are the numbers from?
          Figured it out myself? But trade is such a thing ... replacing is not a problem, there would be guarantees
          1. +1
            10 November 2017 21: 29
            To start in Cuba, you need at least a large rubber ear. to listen to the adversary
  51. +1
    5 November 2017 21: 12
    Quote: Gray Brother
    Anarchist,

    2) Based on paragraph 1, they will be destroyed there before they launch.


    You don’t think so at all, do you? Who will destroy them, I wonder, and how?
    1. 0
      5 November 2017 21: 18
      Quote: purple
      You don’t think so at all, do you? Who will destroy them, I wonder, and how?

      The Americans will destroy them, even by non-nuclear means.
      1. +2
        5 November 2017 21: 24
        Quote: Gray Brother
        The Americans will destroy them, even by non-nuclear means.

        laughing I'm laughing stupidly.... do you understand that an attack by the Russian Federation's high frequency forces, even by non-nuclear means, is war???? or is everything completely tight?
        1. +13
          6 November 2017 00: 49
          It’s just that this gray guy hasn’t heard anything about air defense! You can cry here...
  52. +3
    5 November 2017 21: 15
    It’s interesting that he bought a “general” for a lot of sheep... even the stupidest understands that on foreign policy issues, only the Ministry of Foreign Affairs can speak.... what kind of stupid sheep is this?
  53. +1
    5 November 2017 21: 20
    [quote=The_Lancet][quote]The deployment of the Russian military base in Cuba could worsen relations with Washington and lead to a second Cuban Missile Crisis, RIA Novosti cites the opinion of the deputy head of the international committee of the Federation Council, FSB General Vladimir Dzhabarov.[/quote]
    Who will allow Russia to do this? No more fools in Cuba laughing
    Oddball, let's tell Cuba to jump.... they will answer how high...
  54. 0
    5 November 2017 21: 29
    Quote: Fedya2017
    Quote: Nemesis
    and in Russia there are a lot of local people who will decide how to live without the advice of foreigners.

    When did the local population in Russia decide how to live? ...

    Fedya from the stars... we'll figure it out without you.. Ok? decide with your queen... don't meddle in our affairs
    1. 0
      5 November 2017 22: 00
      Quote: purple
      OK? decide with your queen... don't meddle in our affairs

      Smart girl, are you talking about my flag? A person with one or another flag may very well be your housemate. Don't know why VPN exists? ha-ha-ha-hahaha!!!!!!!!!!
      1. 0
        5 November 2017 22: 09
        Quote: Fedya2017
        Quote: purple
        OK? decide with your queen... don't meddle in our affairs

        Smart girl, are you talking about my flag? A person with one or another flag may very well be your housemate. Don't know why VPN exists? ha-ha-ha-hahaha!!!!!!!!!!

        You know about VPN, I'm amazed... VPN and Fedya... Fedya is behind the VPN... it sounds... you're encrypted... that means you're a stupid troll.. go through the forest....
        1. 0
          6 November 2017 01: 10
          Quote: purple
          Fedya for the VPN... it sounds... you're encrypted... that means you're stupidly a troll... go through the woods....

          Don't drink too much glass... That way you'll soon become wiser. And you will become completely amazed... But by the way, this is your business... There must be natural selection.
        2. 0
          6 November 2017 21: 01
          Quote: purple
          You know about VPN, I'm amazed... VPN and Fedya... Fedya is behind the VPN... it sounds... you're encrypted... that means you're a stupid troll.. go through the forest....

          No... He just dreams of emigrating. But no money, no necessary profession, and no one needs it! So he sublimates: the flag is turned upside down and he feels like a European)))
          1. 0
            6 November 2017 22: 27
            Quote: AllXVahhaB
            So he sublimates: the flag is turned upside down and he feels like a European)))

            You know everything, Kremlinbots... You've already been everywhere... Are you still confused about your names? They say that “Cook” is already making staff reductions? Try, killer...
  55. 0
    5 November 2017 21: 32
    Quote: Gray Brother
    Quote: Anarchist
    And if about so useless, then why screech about her?

    So it’s useless in pure defense, and as a parry of a retaliatory strike, it’s even useful, until it is crushed it will have time to shoot back once or twice, and maybe even more.
    On the "other side" are also not fools and they also choose priority goals.
    In a nuclear war, it’s like - who first got that and slippers.

    Fought?
    1. +1
      6 November 2017 05: 35
      Quote: purple
      Fought?

      Tell us also that you took part in a war using nuclear weapons... laughing Whoever begins to be afraid even before the battle will certainly lose it.
      By building a military base in Cuba with the consent of the Cuban government, we will not violate anything. And there's no need to drool.
  56. +2
    5 November 2017 21: 35
    Don’t listen to anyone, if the Cubans don’t mind, create a base. And until the last American in Eurasia does not leave the island.
  57. +4
    5 November 2017 21: 43
    The Americans have brought a lot of things to our borders, but we are afraid of the “Carribean crisis.” And the “Carribean crisis” is already at our fingertips.
    1. +4
      5 November 2017 22: 03
      Quote: Altona
      The Americans have brought a lot of things to our borders, but we are afraid of the “Carribean crisis.” And the “Carribean crisis” is already at our fingertips.

      We are not afraid... but they are afraid of scum who made money the wrong way, and now they understand that not everything is so simple... and not everything in the world is solved by money
      1. +1
        5 November 2017 23: 04
        Quote: purple
        We are not afraid...

        There's nothing scary on the sofas laughing
        Quote: purple
        but they are afraid of scum who made money in the wrong way

        This does not prevent them, unlike the fearless ones on the couches, from influencing decisions in Russia, c. including foreign policy.
        1. +2
          6 November 2017 00: 33
          You are proud that “the scum who made money the wrong way... influence decisions in Russia, including foreign policy.” ?
          ........
          To Caesar what is Caesar's...Last time, when We got up from the couch, the Great October Revolution happened and “all those who made money the wrong way” washed themselves with bloody tears. I’m not calling for anything, but you shouldn’t stir things up either.
          1. +11
            6 November 2017 00: 45
            To the circus... two alas-patriots barked belay
            Big Nasalnika, Short Rougeaux I just regretted in my comment that this happened.
            Short Rougeaux specializes (as far as I have noticed) in such “regrets”.
            Your salvo with the power of hundreds of megatons... hit its target, my condolences crying

            Quote: Großer Feldherr
            when We got up from the sofa, the Great October Revolution happened and “all those who made money the wrong way” washed themselves with bloody tears

            To be fair, I would like to note that it was not only (and not so much) those who had profited who “washed up”, but mostly those who were not involved at all.
            As usual, however, “the gentlemen fight, but the slaves’ forelocks crack.”
            That's it ... Big Nasalnika request
            1. +1
              6 November 2017 21: 12
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              As usual, however, “the gentlemen fight, but the slaves’ forelocks crack.”

            2. 0
              6 November 2017 23: 17
              I don’t understand whether you are a moderator or “there’s a plug in every barrel.” Lots of sarcasm, simpler please.
  58. +2
    5 November 2017 22: 47
    I do not think that this is the best option, it can increase the confrontation between Russia and the United States,
    noted senator.

    This is despite the fact that the states have already deployed missile defense at our borders and will begin building bases in Ukraine even tomorrow.
    That’s all that patriots need to know about our foreign policy, and not get carried away by reports that strategic command sheds and carts on Toyotas were destroyed by calibers on distant approaches.
    1. +1
      5 November 2017 23: 24
      Karabin and not to blunder into reports that strategic command sheds and carts on Toyotas were destroyed by calibers on distant approaches.

      You are speaking apolitically, young man, apparently you do not read periodicals on this issue and do not share the line of the Party and the Government...
      58-10. Propaganda or agitation containing a call for the overthrow, disruption or weakening of Soviet power or for the commission of certain counter-revolutionary crimes (Articles 58-2 - 58-9 of this Code), as well as the distribution or production or storage of literature of the same content, entails entail imprisonment for a term of not less than six months.

      http://avkrasn.ru/article-681.html
      We relaxed here without Yuri Vladimirovich, tbh...
  59. 0
    5 November 2017 22: 56
    Apparently the dacha is in the USA and the children are studying, let the piss take Khrushchev as an example
  60. 0
    5 November 2017 22: 56
    Russia's military base in the DPRK in conjunction with the freezing of North Korea's nuclear missile program and guarantees for the security of the North Korean people. As an option. I think it's worth thinking about.
    1. +1
      6 November 2017 00: 05
      We already gave such a guarantee to the SAR when we persuaded Assad to give up chemical weapons... no one will believe us anymore...
      And the PRC will not allow us to build a World Bank in the DPRK... this is its “front garden”...
  61. 0
    6 November 2017 00: 24
    Quote: kubanec
    place, unambiguously place

    If only one Cuban would come here and say: “Oh, how, they got me married without me.”
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  63. +1
    6 November 2017 01: 10
    There is no room to “intensify” the confrontation! The technical base must cost as much as the Gandos in Ochakov! The costs are small but a pain in the ass!
  64. +1
    6 November 2017 02: 15
    Is there no one’s classic wife? to learn how to say excuses and persuade (cheat) men into biscuits?

    - In the Caribbean region, our meteorologists conduct scientific research. The El Niño phenomenon and the formation of tropical cyclones are studied, since the influence exerted by tropical cyclones affects the weather in the Northern Hemisphere.

    True, they may guess about “climate weapons”, but in fact we prevent and prevent typhoons and hurricanes.
    and in Puerto Rico we are on an excursion, adopting the American experience of cultural unity of the Puerto Rican people with the culture of the United States. Yes. We conduct ethnographic research.
  65. 0
    6 November 2017 02: 19
    We must crush America economically!
  66. +1
    6 November 2017 02: 28
    This is such a shame! Cowardice and constant surrender of positions, in the hope of an illusory improvement in relations with overseas “partners”... And this is great Russia? Ashamed!
    1. +1
      6 November 2017 08: 29
      You are right, Silver 169, this is a shameful whining. And even an FSB general. Strom.
  67. 0
    6 November 2017 03: 39
    it's time to install Iskanders and calibers in Cuba and Chukotka, otherwise mattress covers...
  68. 0
    6 November 2017 04: 26
    The tracking station needs to be restored, but everything else is not needed there, because it will be useless and will be destroyed instantly. But it wouldn’t be bad to kick the Americans out of there first, which would be impossible to do
  69. 0
    6 November 2017 06: 27
    Well. The cube automatically turns into a target.
    I hope that things will not come to a pre-emptive strike from the United States.
    Where are our unmanned thermonuclear carriers, huh?
    This is more realistic, and the location of their location is very difficult to calculate.
    It's time to stop thinking in the patterns of those years,
    because the world is very much not the same anymore.
  70. +1
    6 November 2017 07: 15
    Quote: Anarchist
    Then back to the question - Why is there no point in rockets in Cuba?
    And then you somehow contradict yourself ...


    Cuba is surrounded, all the missiles will be destroyed in a short time, before they have time to take off. It is impossible to get missiles in the depths of Russia; for this, anti-missile missiles need to fly thousands of kilometers over Russian territory. During the Cuban missile crisis, the USSR had a couple of dozen missiles that could be obtained by the United States, and the Americans in Europe alone had several dozen missiles capable of reaching Moscow in 15 minutes, not counting the missiles from Great Britain and France, plus they had hundreds of missiles on their territory, and they also deployed RSDs in Turkey. So then it was a vital necessity .
    1. +1
      6 November 2017 09: 04
      Dear Xscorpion, you are wildly wrong. The USA is already at our borders, you see it, and they can deliver whatever they want there at any time. The shorter the flight time, the less chance of shooting it down. They don't care about our protests. They teach everyone so drop dead beautifully, so quietly - one step back, two steps forward. And Cuba is our chance to put them in the right place. A small naval base with submarine training and beauty. If they behave badly, several boats come and wander around for a little while, but if they behave well, they are removed. This is a subject of trade in negotiations.. Although I am very sure that no one will dare to throw nuclear bombs, especially with us. The DPRK is also afraid of the United States. Nuclear war is stupid.
  71. +1
    6 November 2017 07: 31
    To “soften” the installation of missiles in Cuba, it is enough to say that it is not missiles that are being installed, but, just like in Poland, air defense systems)
  72. +1
    6 November 2017 08: 25
    No need to piss, general. The USA and the Baltic states, and in Ukraine, and in Georgia, and soon, in Central Asia, bases will begin to be poked. And you started snotting! We should have bases in Cuba and Adana. And you need to think about how to cook this up in the FSB, that’s why you are there to protect our interests in the world.. Be more confident - if you stand still, it means you’ve lost.
    1. +1
      6 November 2017 09: 17
      There is no need to install anything anywhere. Cuba needs a new Sevastopol port with Balaklava, and that’s all. laughing
  73. +1
    6 November 2017 09: 02
    Another “from the security forces.” American missiles in Ukraine and Poland, quite possibly with special warheads, are no longer grounds for Russia’s response?
    1. 0
      6 November 2017 09: 13
      Quote: Evil 55
      Another “from the security forces.” American missiles in Ukraine and Poland, quite possibly with special warheads, are no longer grounds for Russia’s response?

      “Quite possibly” is already a five! And about American missiles in Ukraine in more detail... good
  74. 0
    6 November 2017 09: 53
    War between Russia and the United States is possible and mandatory
    VRSVО....."O" (single vowel)
    563811....."11"(select, edge "11" from 5.11
    In a year

    War Russia USA one wins both loses
    HRVSoftwareSoftware....."PO"
    56.3.74.9.3....."74"

    Crisis America Russia eighteenth year
    KAR..V.G....."VG" (choice "V" from AB and "G" from KG)
    676.13.3...."13.3" (select "13.3" from 7.13.3)

    Glory to Russian weapons!
  75. 0
    6 November 2017 09: 58
    IMHO, a Navy base and a dozen or two Karakurts are enough. Even a particularly small-sized base will work.
  76. +1
    6 November 2017 11: 08
    In Cuba, a base is simply necessary to reduce the arrogance of the amers.
  77. 0
    6 November 2017 11: 14
    The deployment of a Russian military base in Cuba could aggravate relations with Washington and lead to a second Caribbean crisis, RIA Novosti reports the opinion of the deputy head of the international committee of the Federation Council, FSB general Vladimir Dzhabarov.

    Opinion of another senior comrade:
    First Deputy Chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Defense and Security Franz Klintsevich believes that it is time for America and the North Atlantic Alliance to remember “Happy 1962,” and Russia needs to restore its naval and air bases in Cuba. The senator expressed this opinion in an interview with the Interfax news agency....
    Source: https://politexpert.net/74699-tuz-v-rukave-rossii
    -moskva-otrezvit-ssha-vosstanovleniem-baz-na-kube

    A hackneyed topic, an article on which was published in VO back in the spring of this year
    The Russian Ministry of Defense is considering the possible return of military bases to Cuba and Vietnam.

    https://topwar.ru/110723-rossiyskie-voennye-gotov
    yat-vozvraschenie-na-kubu-i-vo-vetnam.html

    So, I realized the time has not yet come, and there is nothing to base yet, there are not enough ships in the near zone...what else is Cuba, Venezuela, etc.
  78. +1
    6 November 2017 11: 19
    ))) Ha-ha-ha! This is another proof of what kind of slow-witted Pokemon sit at the top. It is not surprising that today Russia is in full (F). Our ally Army and Navy earns currency for corrupt officials. They drench their own people in the toilet with tomatoes. Either out of fear and indecision, they rattle their weapons. They declassify military secrets and trade them. Is this why the wording “MILITARY SECRET” was changed? So that every second high-ranking official, including those with big stars, does not have to be put against the wall. It seems like the saying that Russians take a long time to harness, but they go fast. This is not about our sheep. Oh sorry, bear. CORRUPTION! There is simply nowhere to go anymore. THESIS Let's close the faucet and crawl on our knees. Nope. IT'S WORKING. This is how they screwed up Ukraine today. And tomorrow Russia. Sorry! Tired of it!
  79. 0
    6 November 2017 11: 21
    Why is this necessary? They'll burst their butts out of fear, and a frightened jackal is dangerous! It is more useful and cheaper to maintain a couple of nuclear missile carriers. At least they are more difficult to neutralize than a fixed ground base. In addition, the Cuban state will have to be partially supported. We've already passed, that's enough.
    1. 0
      6 November 2017 11: 41
      dmitry.kashkaryow They're afraid their assholes will burst

      Now the Stalinists and Leninists will give you minuses for such anti-Sovietism, the glorious bastards don’t want to sell their apartment in order to equip bases around the world, for which you will be accused of dislike for the Motherland, such jackals of people put people against the wall in the 30s and didn’t winced...
      Let’s say Cuba provides free of charge (who believes in this?) its territory under the World Bank, what will the Russian Federation place there? There are no ships in the ocean zone, there are no supply transports, we will have to buy from Turkey again....
      PMTO like in Tartus is not even needed there, since our ships are rare guests in the Caribbean, not to mention the southern and central Atlantic.
      An air base - for what and what kind of aircraft, anti-submarine, we ourselves don’t have enough of them in our fleets, unless there is a detachment of refueling aircraft like in Vietnam to refuel Tu-95 and Tu-160.
      The intelligence center will have to be rebuilt, because... what we left there was a pile of scrap metal....
      Accordingly, military necessity + price for renting bases will determine the feasibility of our presence in Cuba....
      In this regard, the situation with the deployment of our military bases in Nicaragua is more understandable than in Cuba, and even more so in Venezuela...
      1. +1
        6 November 2017 13: 49
        The option is interesting, but politically soft. With the consent of the Cuban authorities, a Russian base on the island is simply necessary.
      2. +1
        6 November 2017 20: 42
        Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
        dmitry.kashkaryow They're afraid their assholes will burst

        Now the Stalinists and Leninists will give you disadvantages........than in Cuba and especially in Venezuela....

        I am also a Leninist! But why put downvotes? If a person has brains everything is ok. Unlike our Pokemon who are at the top. Which instead of taking care of government affairs. During working hours, they run around the offices and catch Pokemon. I'm shocked by their intelligence. They didn’t even have enough sense to not talk about it on central TV. It is not surprising that a country with such people in large numbers (F) They even managed to secure a long-term free base in the Mediterranean Sea. Well, yes ! After all, there will be very noticeable theft. After all, the late Kadafi also offered to fully provide the base with his country. MDAaa!
    2. +1
      6 November 2017 19: 53
      Quote: dmitry.kashkaryow
      Why is this necessary? They'll burst their ass out of fear, ............... We've already passed, that's enough.

      Agree. But for some reason, our Pokémon squeezed boblos onto missile carriers and aircraft carriers. They only forked out money for little sluts. Ahhh! Well, yes ! More likely because they don’t steal much from the boat.
  80. 0
    6 November 2017 11: 35
    Russia needs to help the Cubans build a peaceful maritime hub (perhaps more than one) for storing and moving sea containers within Cuba, and not engage in the construction of expensive military bases at its own expense.
    1. 0
      6 November 2017 11: 50
      Does the Russian Federation not need such a maritime hub, or are you in favor of developing other countries (mostly poor people who are not accustomed to paying off debts) at the expense of the Russian Federation?
      1. +1
        6 November 2017 23: 41
        he means other containers...
        1. 0
          6 November 2017 23: 58
          Quote: Prokhor80
          he means other containers...

          This is a military secret and everyone is not supposed to know...
  81. +3
    6 November 2017 12: 09
    It seems that Dzhabarov does not know that from Cuba to the USA there are 90 miles, and from the Baltic states, Poland, Romania and Ochakov to Moscow there is nothing and no aggravations for you. Most likely Dzhabarov had a count in geography. And hundreds of American bases along the entire perimeter of Russia do not bother him. It’s good if this is the opinion of only one person, and not the office.
  82. +1
    6 November 2017 13: 46
    I consider it necessary and, with the consent of the authorities, possible to place, at a minimum, a technical point. assistance to the Russian Navy and Air Force in Cuba. The opinions of others are at least incomprehensible. There is no need to be afraid and give in, you need to directly and openly promote your interests. It is not necessary to deploy strategic nuclear weapons in Cuba; the possibility of such deployment is sufficient. Say, to protect Cuba from threats from ISIS!
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  85. 0
    6 November 2017 18: 23
    Quote: NIKNN
    Quote: Anarchist
    And what will it give? Share ...
    And it looks ugly fellow

    Can you imagine how much this will require funds and efforts to organize this base?
    The fact is that during the Caribbean crisis, we could not implement an adequate response to aggression from our territory. On this went to the deployment of missiles in the cube. This hour is not necessary. And this, in fact, will only aggravate the already acute situation, I think that it will even be in the hands of the politicians of America, and Cuba will be put in jeopardy as the United States does not make sense to Europe. Missiles need to be deployed against NATO European bases because the strike will be from there and not from the United States. I don’t see much sense in deploying nuclear weapons on the cube, except for the political step, it is unlikely to help. The United States is not going to expose itself to attack, War if it is with Europe (well, as it were, with NATO and America as a state it does not connect immediately, but waits a pause), and the United States will collect grandmas. Well it is, as an option. It’s hard to predict when you don’t know much. Roughly, thoughts are rumored ... recourse
    Personal opinion that you should not escalate the situation. request
    1. 0
      6 November 2017 18: 53
      At least I saw an adequate opinion from you. We shouldn’t get involved in Cuba, we already have enough problems of our own, and Putin correctly says “WHY.” And substitute the Cubans.
      We’ll get them anyway, but if something happens, destroying their missiles means we have to destroy all the states where they are located, is that what they want? And we will have to, no matter what surgical strikes there are. And our “gifts” are enough for everyone.
      Under our leadership, everything needs to be resolved diplomatically, but also not to cave in, as Putin is doing now and to hell with him, life now sucks and corruption, and if something serious, then Sobchak will make decisions.
      It's my personal opinion.
  86. +1
    6 November 2017 18: 26
    But I personally am tired of the fact that these “criminals” are setting up their bases around us, and we are just wagging our fingers, oh, that’s not good.
    1. +1
      6 November 2017 20: 18
      In Syria they also scolded him quite well, and the Trump guy was somewhat surprised.
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  88. +1
    7 November 2017 06: 49
    It needs to be posted. They can put it under our noses, but we can’t. Nonsense.
  89. 0
    7 November 2017 08: 28
    Quote: SRC P-15
    Quote: The_Lancet
    Who will allow Russia to do this? Fools are no longer in Cuba

    Yes, they were not in Cuba before! And we will somehow find a common language with the Cubans! There they have a nuclear power plant in Huragua, still unfinished. Yes

    Yes, and I wanted to smoke some “Legeros” as a last resort.
    1. 0
      7 November 2017 12: 56
      The cocky "Tabacos Negros" and the nuclear power plant, today this is more important than the military base of the declassified Russian Federation!
  90. 0
    7 November 2017 12: 53
    Dzhabarov is right!
    In the current reality, when the likelihood of the collapse of the SGA has become apparent, it is necessary to measure those political and political-military measures in the international arena a thousand times in order to prevent unity in the SGA society!!! It is important for the archi to actively, but conspiratorially influence the processes of self-disintegration of the SGA (in the future, this process will spread to Canada and the Mexican SG) and to most actively support the national liberation struggle of Indian Americans for the liberation of North and South America from all alien colonizers and their slaves, let them return peacefully to Europe and Africa. Otherwise, their fate will be unenviable!
    Happy Centennial Anniversary of the Great October Revolution, comrades!
  91. +1
    7 November 2017 16: 03
    Quote: MAGorkiy
    Dear Xscorpion, you are wildly wrong. The USA is already at our borders, you see it, and they can deliver whatever they want there at any time. The shorter the flight time, the less chance of shooting it down. They don't care about our protests. They teach everyone so drop dead beautifully, so quietly - one step back, two steps forward. And Cuba is our chance to put them in the right place. A small naval base with submarine training and beauty. If they behave badly, several boats come and wander around for a little while, but if they behave well, they are removed. This is a subject of trade in negotiations.. Although I am very sure that no one will dare to throw nuclear bombs, especially with us. The DPRK is also afraid of the United States. Nuclear war is stupid.


    Even being near our borders, they can reach a maximum of 30 percent of our territory, and 90 percent of our ground-based strategic nuclear forces are usually located on the remaining 70 percent of the territory. So you are wrong. One nuclear submarine in the Caribbean is much more terrible for Americans than dozens of missiles in Cuba, which will be clearly visible. Damn, you live in the middle of the last century. The maximum that we need there is a logistics base, like in Tartus, where our ships will occasionally appear, and the above-mentioned submarines
  92. DOC
    +2
    7 November 2017 16: 26
    Quote: Anarchist
    Mr. Klintsevich justifies the indecision of Mead ... Says that - “will intensify the confrontation”? Where is stronger? They already openly say that Russia is the number one enemy! Even the DPRK is in fourth place, after Ebola and Isis !!!
    Something reminded me - `` there is no money, but you hold on! ''; so here - '' they surround us, but you don’t worry! '' '!!!
    In my opinion, all This is a statement of the helplessness of the current apparatus ...

    In my opinion, it is said to the point and nothing superfluous. I agree one hundred percent.
  93. +1
    9 November 2017 06: 39
    Why are you laughing? This means that we are aggravating relations with our base in Cuba, but they are not aggravating them at all by sitting on our border, again the liberals are chirping......
  94. +1
    9 November 2017 15: 19
    Doesn’t the presence of bases in the Baltics and Poland, with a flight time to Moscow of 10-15 minutes, increase tension?
  95. +1
    10 November 2017 10: 33
    The vultures play by their own rules with only one goal. And when I miss a goal, they cry like girls who have lost their virginity.
  96. +1
    12 November 2017 12: 55
    What was bad about the Cuban Missile Crisis? As a result, it removed its medium-range missiles from Turkey. For some reason, the United States is not afraid of worsening relations with Russia by deploying its troops on the borders with Russia and staging a coup in Ukraine. Now only a crisis like the Caribbean can put it in its place.
  97. +1
    8 January 2018 11: 51
    even FSB generals are crying and afraid of deteriorating relations with the United States. There was no need to hide the stolen goods there, especially for the general. Relations will only worsen; the United States cannot simply tolerate the strengthening of Russia. Sergeants must understand this too.
  98. +1
    8 January 2018 21: 04
    Yes, there was the Caribbean Crisis, our R-12 missiles were deployed in Cuba! This was done because the Americans stationed their missiles in Turkey. After this, negotiations began immediately. Ours removed the missiles from Cuba, and the Americans from Turkey. My opinion is that missiles need to be installed again in Cuba. For Americans, it’s like a knife to the throat. After that, you can bargain for them to get out of Europe.
  99. +1
    8 January 2018 21: 10
    Quote: kriten
    even FSB generals are crying and afraid of deteriorating relations with the United States. There was no need to hide the stolen goods there, especially for the general. Relations will only worsen; the United States cannot simply tolerate the strengthening of Russia. Sergeants must understand this too.

    If we don’t deliver missiles there, then relations will definitely worsen, and this way we will have a trump card.