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Dzhabarov told what could be the deployment of the Russian military base in Cuba

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The deployment of the Russian military base in Cuba could aggravate relations with Washington and lead to the second Caribbean crisis, leads RIA News the opinion of the deputy head of the international committee of the Federation Council, FSB General Vladimir Dzhabarov.


Dzhabarov told what could be the deployment of the Russian military base in Cuba
Soviet missile in Cuba

Earlier, the Deputy Chairman of the Defense Committee of the Federation Council, Franz Klintsevich, spoke in favor of restoring the Russian military base in Cuba.

We need to know first the opinion of the Cubans themselves, this is an independent state,
Jabarov said the agency.

I do not think that this is the best option, it can increase the confrontation between Russia and the United States,
noted senator.

Dzhabarov recalled that stories USSR-US relations have already had a Caribbean crisis. According to him, "a new deployment of the Russian military base on the Island of Freedom can only provoke the Americans to take militant steps" in relation to Russia, "the Caribbean crisis can repeat."

The deputy head of the committee stressed that Russia must ensure its defense and security, and that the fleet of nuclear submarines that it has, and the military bases it has, “can easily cope with a sudden attack by the enemy.”

In turn, the head of the international committee of the Federation Council, Konstantin Kosachev, believes that “such decisions should be made on the basis of the principle of expediency and necessity from the point of view of ensuring the country's defense, rather than the principle of reciprocity.” Therefore, the final answer is still not for the politicians, but for the military experts and the Supreme Commander.
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  1. Grandfather
    Grandfather 5 November 2017 18: 11 New
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    I do not think that this is the best option, it can increase the confrontation between Russia and the United States,
    noted senator.
    I hope it’s not worrying about the “cottage” ... for me, it’s the only Pros. The “Ostovites” are so insolent because they are “non-permanent”, they are located across the sea-ocean, from a probable enemy that they have lost their scent ... and such "blowing" under the nose of Miami, but under the guise of our submarines, would be oh sobering.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 5 November 2017 18: 15 New
      10
      What can it lead to? Well, then to the mass exodus of the fledglings to the north .. Now, probably to the south, to the penguins .. However, this option is not at all saving ..
      1. Anarchist
        Anarchist 5 November 2017 18: 24 New
        60
        Mr. Klintsevich justifies the indecision of Mead ... Says that - “will intensify the confrontation”? Where is stronger? They already openly say that Russia is the number one enemy! Even the DPRK is in fourth place, after Ebola and Isis !!!
        Something reminded me - `` there is no money, but you hold on! ''; so here - '' they surround us, but you don’t worry! '' '!!!
        In my opinion, all This is a statement of the helplessness of the current apparatus ...
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 5 November 2017 18: 32 New
          15
          The deployment of a Russian military base in Cuba could aggravate relations with Washington and lead to a second Caribbean crisis, RIA Novosti reports the opinion of the deputy head of the international committee of the Federation Council, FSB general Vladimir Dzhabarov.

          Oh, I don’t feel like walking in the FSB generals for long!
          1. The_lancet
            The_lancet 5 November 2017 19: 07 New
            12
            The deployment of the Russian military base in Cuba may aggravate relations with Washington and lead to a second Caribbean crisis, RIA Novosti reports the opinion of the deputy head of the international committee of the Federation Council, FSB general Vladimir Dzhabarov.

            Who will allow Russia to do this? No more fools in Cuba laughing
            First you need to know the opinion of the Cubans themselves, this is an independent state

            General guessed
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 5 November 2017 19: 12 New
              24
              Quote: The_Lancet
              Who will allow Russia to do this? Fools are no longer in Cuba

              Yes, they were not in Cuba before! And we will somehow find a common language with the Cubans! There they have a nuclear power plant in Huragua, still unfinished. yes
            2. Victor-M
              Victor-M 5 November 2017 19: 45 New
              35
              Quote: The_Lancet
              Who will allow Russia to do this?

              And who will ask you, all the more it is not against you, but against ISIS. laughing
              1. Hammerlock
                Hammerlock 6 November 2017 04: 51 New
                12
                Certainly, this is to prevent ISIS missiles from reaching Florida. WE will intercept them in Cuba
            3. Vladimir Avakimov
              Vladimir Avakimov 5 November 2017 19: 53 New
              13
              And you Pindos can occupy independent countries ???
            4. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 5 November 2017 19: 53 New
              22
              Quote: The_Lancet
              Who will allow Russia to do this? No more fools in Cuba

              The question is not whether they will allow or not, but the expediency of opening it in Cuba and its subsequent maintenance thousands of miles from Russia. Putin has already been asked whether Russia plans to return to Vietnam and Cuba, to which he replied - "And why?. Who do we need and so get it". This is what you live with. Good night...
              1. Lavrenti Pavlovich
                Lavrenti Pavlovich 6 November 2017 01: 48 New
                +3
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                Quote: The_Lancet
                Who will allow Russia to do this? No more fools in Cuba

                The question is not whether they will allow or not, but the expediency of opening it in Cuba and its subsequent maintenance thousands of miles from Russia. Putin has already been asked whether Russia plans to return to Vietnam and Cuba, to which he replied - "And why?. Who do we need and so get it". This is what you live with. Good night...

                As time goes on, the situation is changing, so the base in Cuba will not hurt us. We’ll arrange long-range crickets in Cuba so that not only the "exceptional" embassies go crazy, but also on the mainland.
              2. GIN
                GIN 6 November 2017 06: 47 New
                +1
                So the generals need to rest somewhere, and then Hurghada is not available
            5. Starover_Z
              Starover_Z 5 November 2017 20: 32 New
              +2
              Quote: The_Lancet
              Who will allow Russia to do this? No more fools in Cuba

              There is no Fidel, but the current ones will not dare to repeat the “Caribbean crisis”.
              If they "assembled" medium-range missiles and armed themselves, that would be an option!
              In the meantime, they can sell several "Iskander". For Guantanomo.
              1. AllXVahhaB
                AllXVahhaB 6 November 2017 20: 31 New
                +1
                Quote: Starover_Z
                There is no Fidel, but the current ones will not dare to repeat the “Caribbean crisis”.
                If they "assembled" medium-range missiles and armed themselves, that would be an option!

                And what does the Caribbean crisis have to do with it? And where exactly is it said about missiles? So our base in Cuba existed until the 90s.
            6. Titsen
              Titsen 5 November 2017 21: 17 New
              +3
              Quote: The_Lancet
              Who will allow Russia to do this?


              There is a gray hare, sometimes a white hare, and you are a friend .... The_Lancet with a striped flag of what color?
            7. silver169
              silver169 6 November 2017 02: 31 New
              +9
              Why not? Russia is always ready to help overseas partners in the fight against ISIS. For this, the Russian base in Cuba is simply necessary.))
            8. PROXOR
              PROXOR 7 November 2017 12: 24 New
              +1
              I would like to write obscenely, but I will not say anything. Our administration is politically correct. So I rephrase: YOU FORGOT TO ASK.
          2. Vlad.by
            Vlad.by 5 November 2017 22: 11 New
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            Yeah, for some reason the Americans are not very afraid of confrontation - Poland is not much further than Cuba.
            If you continue to be afraid, Siberia may immediately be given back. What if a confrontation?
          3. Mackiawelly
            Mackiawelly 6 November 2017 06: 54 New
            +4
            What the FSB, such and generals.
        2. Gray brother
          Gray brother 5 November 2017 18: 49 New
          +5
          Quote: Anarchist
          Mr. Klintsevich justifies the indecision of Mead ... He says that - “will intensify the confrontation”

          Namely, it will increase confrontation and will not give obvious advantages.
          1. Anarchist
            Anarchist 5 November 2017 19: 14 New
            15
            And what will it give? Share ...
            And it looks ugly fellow
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 5 November 2017 19: 37 New
              +4
              Quote: Anarchist
              And what will it give? Share ...

              The large-scale transfer of NATO troops to the Russian borders, Russia will also drive the troops to the west since such things cannot be ignored ... no one knows how this will end.
              Stir this mover for a base in Cuba? It’s not very clear to me that such a trump card can be placed there and for what it should be done.
              1. Anarchist
                Anarchist 5 November 2017 19: 45 New
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                But aren't you boiling near our borders? Is the Baltic States and Poland teeming with NATO military? Are they building pro bases in Japan and the Republic of Korea? Is the US trying to get out of the INF Treaty?
                And in Cuba, missiles can be deployed, which will fly to Washington in a short time!
                Through the North Pole or the Pacific Ocean it will be long ... With cubes much faster!
                1. Gray brother
                  Gray brother 5 November 2017 19: 49 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Anarchist
                  And in Cuba, missiles can be deployed, which will fly to Washington in a short time!

                  They will not reach anywhere, unless Russia is the first to attack. And in terms of defense, it is just as useless as the American missile defense system in Europe, and in Japan too.
                  Just a primary goal.
                  1. Anarchist
                    Anarchist 5 November 2017 20: 05 New
                    17
                    Not in terms of defense, but deterrence!
                    And if about so useless, then why screech about her?
                    Well, if you say, then I'm calm hi
                    1. Gray brother
                      Gray brother 5 November 2017 20: 23 New
                      +5
                      Quote: Anarchist
                      And if about so useless, then why screech about her?

                      So it’s useless in pure defense, and as a parry of a retaliatory strike, it’s even useful, until it is crushed it will have time to shoot back once or twice, and maybe even more.
                      On the "other side" are also not fools and they also choose priority goals.
                      In a nuclear war, it’s like - who first got that and slippers.
                      1. Anarchist
                        Anarchist 5 November 2017 20: 29 New
                        18
                        Then back to the question - Why is there no point in rockets in Cuba?
                        And then you somehow contradict yourself ...
                      2. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 5 November 2017 20: 59 New
                        10
                        Quote: Gray Brother
                        In a nuclear war, so - who first got one and slippers

                        Not for long.
                        In the final, everyone will have slippers of the same color.
                        Unfortunately.
            2. NIKNN
              NIKNN 5 November 2017 19: 44 New
              10
              Quote: Anarchist
              And what will it give? Share ...
              And it looks ugly fellow

              Can you imagine how much this will require funds and efforts to organize this base?
              The fact is that during the Caribbean crisis, we could not implement an adequate response to aggression from our territory. On this went to the deployment of missiles in the cube. This hour is not necessary. And this, in fact, will only aggravate the already acute situation, I think that it will even be in the hands of the politicians of America, and Cuba will be put in jeopardy as the United States does not make sense to Europe. Missiles need to be deployed against NATO European bases because the strike will be from there and not from the United States. I don’t see much sense in deploying nuclear weapons on the cube, except for the political step, it is unlikely to help. The United States is not going to expose itself to attack, War if it is with Europe (well, as it were, with NATO and America as a state it does not connect immediately, but waits a pause), and the United States will collect grandmas. Well it is, as an option. It’s hard to predict when you don’t know much. Roughly, thoughts are rumored ... recourse
              Personal opinion that you should not escalate the situation. request
              1. Gray brother
                Gray brother 5 November 2017 19: 46 New
                +6
                Quote: NIKNN
                Can you imagine how much this will require funds and efforts to organize this base?

                And the Cubans forgot to ask.
              2. NKT
                NKT 5 November 2017 20: 11 New
                +1
                And if there is just Voronezh to place, does it make sense?
                1. NIKNN
                  NIKNN 5 November 2017 20: 41 New
                  +4
                  Quote: NKT
                  And if there is just Voronezh to place, does it make sense?

                  Voronezh will be against. smile I think Voronezh is not bad and it works from our territory, something less global is possible there, and it’s just as if to give Cuba, having written in the contract, the conditions for using the data obtained using the equipment supplied. wink
                2. lelik613
                  lelik613 10 November 2017 19: 43 New
                  0
                  I am afraid that the Voronezh boat will be larger than Cuba. Although ... You can open a club for Young Sailors and lend them a Varshavyanka, or a boat with Caliber. Well, just visit the DOSAAF section and introduce the local youth with the possibilities of our new toys.
              3. gregor6549
                gregor6549 6 November 2017 07: 40 New
                +1
                I agree.
                Firstly, Russia will not receive either military or political advantages from creating such a base, and financially, it will receive only losses, and multi-billion. But Russia already doesn’t peck money in Russia. That is, hens, but, alas, no money
                Secondly, staff members are unlikely to calmly watch that someone will create such a base under their nose and will try to suppress this intention already in the bud. And for this they do not need to arrange a full-scale war. Enough would be the naval and air blockade of Cuba, especially since they will be able to do this. But Russia's attempt to unblock the island could lead to a vigorous war. And now Russia does not have the strength and means to play similar football on a foreign field.
                Therefore nefig climb on rampage unnecessarily and risk the lives of their citizens. Enough that we are already paying for Syria, not receiving anything substantial in return, but constantly risking getting involved in a serious conflict with NATO. Weapons tests can, if not laziness, be carried out with dignity at home, especially for such grandmothers that fall into the Syrian black hole, and how strong friendship with Arabs can be can be remembered how the friendship with Egypt ended in its time. But there are people in Russia like Klintsevich who can’t wait to fight ... by the wrong hands. And they try not to remember those who gave their lives for the crazy adventures of the Klintsevichs and the families of the victims. They’ll say something, but I didn’t send you there as they said more than once in the recent past
                1. Vlad.by
                  Vlad.by 6 November 2017 08: 35 New
                  +5
                  As for the benefits - you are very in vain. The Iskander brigade, capable of covering most of the ports and main objects of the United States with ballistics or the Kyrgyz Republic within 5 minutes after a schucher, is a very effective sobering device. Sometimes, to treat an abscess, it must be opened. In this case, as during the Caribbean crisis, it will be necessary to bring the temperature of relations almost to a boil. Otherwise, the dregs of exclusivity cannot be brought down from "partners".
                  Again, an argument will appear in the negotiations - something will have to be sacrificed when the American missile defense is withdrawn from Eastern Europe. I would at the same time demand the demilitarization of Europe 2000 km from the Russian borders.
                  1. gregor6549
                    gregor6549 6 November 2017 12: 45 New
                    +1
                    Do you really think that the Americans will allow the import of Iskanders into Cuba. After all, they understand better than you and me what threatens them. But now they have more than means to detect such "contraband". Those. it cannot be brought in by the quiet, but by the loud it is a war. I do not think that the Russian leadership will want to start a war with the United States and its allies. It is one thing to frighten them to the best of their ability, and another to put the whole world on the brink of destruction. In addition, the Iskanders alone do not win wars and do not swim there on a tank. In general, when it comes to war, you need to remember how Stalin prepared for it. how he managed to mobilize the whole country before the start of the Second World War. But even he didn’t make plans to conquer America immediately. He understood that he could not compete with the American fleet and mob potential of the USA at that time. Conquer Western Europe and then it will be seen.
                    And you immediately swung at America, fellow countryman, and not with your Iskanders. You need to be more modest, even with the Polonez.
                    Yes, and I do not like my Minsk in ruins. And I saw the ruins of Minsk and even cleared them
                    1. Vlad.by
                      Vlad.by 6 November 2017 21: 42 New
                      +1
                      Well, we later allowed the installation of terrestrial launchers supposedly PRO.
                      The Americans will also admit. But they will not allow it - a pair of Navy transports under the guise of five Shchuk and Peter the Great with the company may well visit friendly Cuba on a friendly visit. Or escort a couple of container ships with Caliber ...
                      There would be a desire, but there are always ways.
                      1. gregor6549
                        gregor6549 7 November 2017 04: 24 New
                        0
                        For all the danger of ground-based missile defense systems in the immediate vicinity of Russian borders for nuclear missiles of the Russian Armed Forces, these are still not strike weapons like the Iskander and the like. medium and shorter range missiles.
                        Moreover, no missile defense system in its current and forecasted for the near future state will be able to intercept most of the Russian land, sea and air-based missiles.
                        And this is clearly realized by people with brains in both Russia and America. Modern missile defense systems are not able to intercept even most of the North Korean and Iranian missiles, which are much more primitive than Russian ones.
                        Therefore, the ABM horror stories are nothing more than the horror stories.
                        True, they are selling well now because to an uninformed taxpayer, they seem to be another “wunderwaffe” and he’s ready to take off his last pants just to cover his bare ass from the imaginary missile attack of “rogue countries”.
                        But the RMND is already more serious than the missile defense system and it was not in vain that an agreement was signed between the USA and the USSR on the mutual reduction of the RMND in Europe. If he had not been signed then, then who knows, maybe there would be no one to write these comments.
                        But the USSR Armed Forces were then an order of magnitude stronger than the non-current Russian Armed Forces and there was more order in the USSR.
                        What am I doing? And the fact that the then leaders of the USA and the USSR clearly realized how the ill-considered deployment of the then RSMD might end and back up in time ..
                        And you again suggest stepping on the same rake. It’s time to already understand that the Americans are not so shy as our patriots are trying to portray endlessly, and if you overdo it in attempts to scare them, it’s quite possible to get a real nuclear reaction in response, especially if there is such a scumbag as Trump at the helm of the US government . After that there will be no one to scare and no reason on both sides of the ocean.
        3. Stas Snezhin
          Stas Snezhin 5 November 2017 18: 50 New
          +4
          And if, North Korea there deploy its base ..
          1. Alexander Golubev
            Alexander Golubev 6 November 2017 14: 52 New
            +1
            Exactly, under the guise of a peacekeeping force!
        4. LSA57
          LSA57 5 November 2017 18: 51 New
          11
          Quote: Anarchist
          Mr. Klintsevich justifies the indecision of Mead ..

          and what does the Foreign Ministry have to do with it? belay such decisions are made solely by the President. The Foreign Ministry is only voicing political decisions. this is a political, not a military department
          1. Anarchist
            Anarchist 5 November 2017 18: 58 New
            14
            The Ministry of Foreign Affairs gives recommendations on actions in these situations!
            Diplomats often change the outcome of a company ...
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 5 November 2017 19: 02 New
              +8
              Quote: Anarchist
              Foreign Ministry gives recommendations on actions in current situations

              recommendations are given by the Ministry of Defense. and the Foreign Ministry, this is politics, but not the country's defense
              1. Anarchist
                Anarchist 5 November 2017 19: 19 New
                13
                Such recommendations are given not only by the Ministry of Defense, but also by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs! Such things are considered comprehensively. yes
                Or didn’t Lavrov tell us about Syria? About the support of jabhat an-nusra, the armed opposition ... Or is Lavrov no longer in the Foreign Ministry?
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 5 November 2017 19: 28 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Anarchist
                  Or didn’t Lavrov tell us about Syria?

                  so does Lavrov decide to start bombing the barmalei? belay Kozhugetovich nervously smoked aside laughing it turns out that the Foreign Ministry has its own intelligence and they use its data to make decisions on the deployment of troops and the deployment of bases laughing
                  1. Anarchist
                    Anarchist 5 November 2017 19: 35 New
                    14
                    Man, just don’t need to juggle!
                    The decision was made by the commander in chief !!! Shoigu considered risks on his part, Lavrov on his own. And there were also analysts from the Ministry of Finance, etc. etc.
                    Well, first of all, it is politicians who walk the situation in the world, and this is, first and foremost, the Foreign Ministry!
                    1. LSA57
                      LSA57 5 November 2017 19: 54 New
                      +7
                      Quote: Anarchist
                      Lavrov with his.

                      What risks did Lavrov consider? Who will say anything at the UN?
                      Quote: Anarchist
                      Well, first of all, it is politicians who walk the situation in the world

                      that is, politicians are only ruining languages, and the Defense Ministry is engaged in real security affairs
                      1. ul_vitalii
                        ul_vitalii 5 November 2017 19: 58 New
                        +9
                        And all this together is called the Security Council
                      2. Anarchist
                        Anarchist 5 November 2017 20: 09 New
                        14
                        It is useless to have a conversation, When you respond to shreds from my commentary, taking them out of context ... Which overturn the whole essence of what I said hi
        5. Esoteric
          Esoteric 5 November 2017 19: 07 New
          +3
          Quote: Anarchist
          In my opinion, all This is a statement of the helplessness of the current apparatus ...

          Leave it. stop This is a statement of the dependence of the current apparatus on the dollar and its storage ...
          1. Anarchist
            Anarchist 5 November 2017 19: 24 New
            14
            This is all one from the other flowing ...
            They do not want to build an independent banking system! And that means they cannot touch the dollar! Otherwise, the entire financial system will collapse ...
        6. Retvizan 8
          Retvizan 8 6 November 2017 05: 55 New
          0
          “Previously, Franz Klintsevich, deputy chairman of the defense committee of the Federation Council, called for the restoration of the Russian military base in Cuba.”
          Klinkevich and Dzhabarov not confused?
        7. askort154
          askort154 6 November 2017 06: 30 New
          0
          Anarchist .......Mr. Klintsevich justifies the indecision of Mead ... Says that - "will strengthen the confrontation"? Where is stronger?

          Hurried and messed up. Reread the text calmly. It is written there: ".... Deputy Chairman of the Defense Committee of the Federation Council Franz Klintsevich spoke out for the restoration of the Russian military base in Cuba" hi



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        8. Dashout
          Dashout 6 November 2017 10: 43 New
          +4
          Quote: Anarchist
          Mr. Klintsevich justifies Mead's indecision

          Yeah, that one is still mumble ...
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 5 November 2017 18: 35 New
        +9
        The deployment of a Russian military base in Cuba could exacerbate relations with Washington and lead to a second Caribbean crisis,

        I WOULD PURCHASE- I WOULD LIVE IN SOCHI

        GDP FREQUENTLY “WORKS” WITH SOCHA

        BASE ON CUBA WILL HELP TO Bargain AS LIKE 55 YEARS BACK-- ALREADY REMOVE ALL THREATS FOR THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION FROM THE BALTIC REGION
        +++++ NEED TO TRANSPORT TRANSIT TO KALININGRAD (AS TO ZAP BERLIN)
        !!!!!!!! BUT THIS IS A BURDEN OF THE STRONG, NOT DEFORMATIVE
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 5 November 2017 18: 15 New
      16
      I apologize to the administration and subscribers. The video is off topic. We have our own Cuba in the DPR.

      Today, November 5, at 16:40 the Ukrainian army opened fire on the territory of the DPR from the MLRS Grad. 120 missiles were fired from the direction of Avdeevka, of which 40 in the direction of the Donetsk airport and 80 in the direction of the settlement Yakovlevka, Yasinovatsky district of the DPR, - the Representation of the DPR in the JCCC and in the negotiation process reports.
      More detailed information about the victims and the destruction is being specified.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 5 November 2017 18: 21 New
        +2
        Quote: Sith Lord
        The Ukrainian army opened fire on the territory of the DPR from the MLRS Grad.

        and will you continue to follow the “Minsk agreements” until they’ll smash it into rubble? you need to decide on something, otherwise they’ll knock it out so ... (excuse me ...)
      2. Served once
        Served once 5 November 2017 19: 41 New
        +4
        Eh.hough about a dozen calibers would be "mistaken" and flew where necessary .. Hold on! hi
    3. poquello
      poquello 5 November 2017 18: 25 New
      +1
      and not necessarily as a missile point, the contingent there is equal to the Baltic with the means of transfer
    4. tol100v
      tol100v 5 November 2017 19: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: Dead Day
      would be oh sobering.

      Why bother with a garden? Strategic Missile Forces, being in places of permanent basing, without any (or minimal) risk, can cause unacceptable damage to the "exclusive SGA!" Not to mention the Navy, which can also make a good salvo without leaving its native harbor, covered by air defense! And so as not to forget the videoconferencing system, then they, without going beyond the borders, can well bang! And no one will be playing Khrushchev-Kennedy and the Caribbean crisis, and it’s not interesting!
    5. user
      user 5 November 2017 21: 25 New
      +3
      The deputy head of the committee stressed that Russia must ensure its defense and security, and that the fleet of nuclear submarines that it has, and the military bases it has, “can easily cope with a sudden attack by the enemy.”


      Reading such statements by the FSB general raises questions of professional suitability, but most likely the guy has his own interests in overseas territories.
      But there is no need to make a military base in Cuba, the transport shoulder is very long, but it was necessary to restore the electronic tracking center the day before yesterday.
      1. Maksus
        Maksus 5 November 2017 23: 28 New
        0
        Is a photo with American equipment on a profile site with the signature “Soviet” normal?
    6. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 6 November 2017 01: 07 New
      +7
      wassat It is desirable Status-6 for reliability, then they will itch in a dream
    7. Alexander Golubev
      Alexander Golubev 6 November 2017 14: 40 New
      0
      In the tale, the death of Kashchei the Immortal is in the needle, and the needle is in the egg. The dollar is a needle, and the Fed is an egg.
  2. RUDY
    RUDY 5 November 2017 18: 11 New
    +9
    Not for nothing that the name "Cuba" was deciphered as Communism Off the Shores of America laughing
  3. Romario_Argo
    Romario_Argo 5 November 2017 18: 13 New
    10
    in order to have a base in Cuba, we first need ocean fleet
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 5 November 2017 18: 23 New
      +5
      Quote: Romario_Argo
      in order to have a base in Cuba, we first need ocean fleet

      soon “Kuzyu” and “Peter” will play a prank, and let's go take Omerega! yes what do we ...
      1. Romario_Argo
        Romario_Argo 5 November 2017 22: 27 New
        +1
        soon Kuzyu and Petra will play a prank

        we don’t need to be a shaman ...
        and urgently destroyers to build, with a large series
    2. Esoteric
      Esoteric 5 November 2017 19: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: Romario_Argo
      to have a base in Cuba, we first need an ocean fleet

      It is enough to have good coastal anti-aircraft missile systems and air defense systems. The base can be equipped with civilian courts. The main thing here is the consent of Cuba (government and people) and the desire of our government. They (the Russian authorities) allowed to withdraw so much funds offshore that ... belay
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 5 November 2017 19: 31 New
        +6
        Quote: Esoteric
        The base can be equipped with civilian courts.

        But what prevents the Sasha from introducing a military blockade and blocking the passage of ANY ships? and they will do so
        1. purple
          purple 5 November 2017 21: 39 New
          +2
          Quote: LSA57
          Quote: Esoteric
          The base can be equipped with civilian courts.

          But what prevents the Sasha from introducing a military blockade and blocking the passage of ANY ships? and they will do so

          Well, why? the ocean is not the internal waters of the United States where we want there and swim
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 5 November 2017 21: 46 New
            +9
            Quote: purple
            Quote: LSA57
            Quote: Esoteric
            The base can be equipped with civilian courts.

            But what prevents the Sasha from introducing a military blockade and blocking the passage of ANY ships? and they will do so

            Well, why? the ocean is not the internal waters of the United States where we want there and swim

            Floating ... a flower in the hole. Well, and you still, camping trip.
            Urgent to school:
            In October 1962, the US Navy ships established a naval blockade of Cuba [7] in the form of a quarantine zone of 500 nautical miles (926 km) around the coast of Cuba, the blockade continued until November 20, 1962

            What prevents them from doing the same now, if desired?
            The correct answer is that nothing bothers.
          2. LSA57
            LSA57 5 November 2017 21: 52 New
            +5
            Quote: purple
            the ocean is not the internal waters of the United States where we want there and swim

            Teach a materiel. already entered the naval blockade of Cuba. not one ship was missed
        2. Sewer krainiy
          Sewer krainiy 6 November 2017 00: 13 New
          +1
          [i] but what prevents the Sasha from introducing a military blockade and blocking the passage of ANY ships? and they will do so [/ i
          So it was in 1961, they tried to close ... But when our submarine surfaced in the blockade of the bulk carrier, the Americans quietly parted ... According to the stories of eyewitnesses from the bulk carrier, two comrades were there.
      2. Alexander Golubev
        Alexander Golubev 6 November 2017 14: 48 New
        +1
        If you add to the offshore what our gentlemen are holding to the country for "small, pocket" expenses. that would be enough not only for the base in Cuba, but also in some places.
    3. max702
      max702 5 November 2017 19: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: Romario_Argo
      in order to have a base in Cuba, we first need ocean fleet

      And above all, vehicles on which you can carry military equipment in commodity quantities .. Now there’s nothing stupid to organize the delivery of everything you need to ensure security .. So yes, it’s too early to return to Cuba .. but .. it would not be too late. ..
  4. midshipman
    midshipman 5 November 2017 18: 14 New
    17
    Post and as soon as possible. I have the honor.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 5 November 2017 18: 31 New
      13
      Quote: midshipman
      Post and as soon as possible. I have the honor.

      ABOUT ! our generation! hi
    2. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 5 November 2017 18: 35 New
      17
      "... the new deployment of a Russian military base on Liberty Island can only provoke Americans to militant steps" against Russia, the Caribbean crisis could repeat itself ... "

      In fact, the Caribbean crisis is not only due to the deployment of our missiles in Cuba. For our part, it was a response to the deployment of missiles with US nuclear weapons in Turkey.
      And now, what is better? NATO is on our borders, there is no Warsaw Pact. This is not just rockets in Turkey, it is the preparation of an invasion. And if you do not give adequate answers on time, then they will continue to become impudent. These people do not recognize any agreements, they are only afraid of a real military threat to their own territory.
      And our senators are all afraid of worsening relations with the states. Or are they afraid of their own bills and real estate there?
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 5 November 2017 18: 43 New
        +9
        Quote: Reserve officer
        And our senators are all afraid of worsening relations with the states. Or are they afraid of their own bills and real estate there?

        Burn Lech, napalm! good drinks
      2. Karabin
        Karabin 5 November 2017 22: 52 New
        +5
        Quote: Reserve officer
        And our senators are all afraid of worsening relations with the states.

        Are there only senators ?! All Russian type to know.
    3. LSA57
      LSA57 5 November 2017 18: 54 New
      +8
      Quote: midshipman
      Post and as soon as possible. I have the honor.

      But how to deliver there, weapons, food, ammunition and much more? Sasha is there. block us oxygen that two fingers on the asphalt
    4. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 5 November 2017 18: 59 New
      12
      Quote: midshipman
      Post and as soon as possible. I have the honor.

      . and brains atrophied.
      If the Cuban leadership is against the deployment of such a base - what do you propose doing? fool
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 5 November 2017 19: 02 New
        12
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        ... and the brains atrophied.

        not be rude. "Midshipman", he did something for the country, you, before his "atrophied brains", have more than one life to crawl backwards ...
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 5 November 2017 19: 03 New
          +7
          Quote: LSA57
          But how to deliver there, weapons, food, ammunition and much more? Sasha is there. block us oxygen that two fingers on the asphalt

          who is there, so frostbitten that our BDK with an escort will search? Syria did not find such.
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 5 November 2017 19: 33 New
            +6
            Quote: Dead Day
            who is there, so frostbitten that our BDK with an escort will search?

            and will he bring a lot there? and it will be necessary to carry constantly. this is not a donbass humanitarian convoy send
          2. Romario_Argo
            Romario_Argo 5 November 2017 22: 39 New
            +2
            by the way, about the BDK, the timing of the descent of the BDK Ave. 11711 "Peter Morgunov" again demolished "to the right"
            and as for supplying our "possible base" in Cuba, so with us so far except SRZK Ave. 864 "Victor Leonov" and "Karelia" - there is nothing
            only if, can than PAO Sovcomflot help
        2. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 5 November 2017 19: 31 New
          10
          Quote: Dead Day
          midshipman did something for the country

          Honor and praise be for him.
          Quote: Dead Day
          you, to his "atrophied brains" not one life still crawl backwards

          I don’t have such a goal, I keep my brains in order ... though, for about twenty years, for an estimate, I’m midshipman younger.
          Quote: Dead Day
          not to be rude

          The statement of a medical fact is not rudeness. Refute.
          Quote: midshipman
          Post as soon as possible

          Rave? Yes stopudovo yes
        3. Cutter
          Cutter 5 November 2017 21: 44 New
          11
          Quote: Dead Day
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          ... and the brains atrophied.

          not be rude. "Midshipman", he did something for the country, you, before his "atrophied brains", have more than one life to crawl backwards ...

          I would say not only "something" ... hi good yes
      2. LSA57
        LSA57 5 November 2017 19: 04 New
        +7
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        What do you propose?

        to answer them with angry posts in VO how badly Lavrov does (what does he have to do with it?), the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Ministry of Defense, and generally everything
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 5 November 2017 19: 38 New
          +5
          Sergey, hi , how do they know (to all polymers) what is in our sea containers ...
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 5 November 2017 19: 58 New
            +6
            Quote: sabakina
            how do they know (all-polymers) what is in our sea containers ...

            and they don’t need to know. just declare a blockade and that’s it. how are we sanctions.
            1. purple
              purple 5 November 2017 21: 41 New
              +1
              blockade ... yes to the blockade, will they really start drowning?
              ps change the avatar .. does not go
              1. LSA57
                LSA57 5 November 2017 21: 57 New
                +6
                Quote: purple
                ps change the avatar .. does not go

                and best of all without an avatar. Anonymous without his views. and do not point me. otherwise I would advise ... not a threat, warning!
          2. Viktor is the winner
            Viktor is the winner 6 November 2017 22: 31 New
            0
            They have intelligence, and sooner or later we will begin to drain information.
    5. Cutter
      Cutter 5 November 2017 21: 41 New
      12
      Quote: midshipman
      Post and as soon as possible. I have the honor.

      hi Finally, a serious and concise opinion without reasoning: the Ministry of Foreign Affairs cannot, decides, does not solve, everything in dollars has nowhere to go, etc.
      Midshipman With Respect to You hi !
  5. anjey
    anjey 5 November 2017 18: 17 New
    11
    why American soldiers can look at our borders, but there is no our military personnel — this is an unfortunate injustice .... that needs to be changed, let them be afraid of the answers of the moment .....
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 5 November 2017 18: 28 New
      +5
      Quote: anjey
      why American soldiers can look at our borders, but there is no our military personnel — this is an unfortunate injustice .... that needs to be changed, let them be afraid of the answers of the moment .....

      Well, suppose you can admire from Chukotka. But from Cuba, even Florida is not visible. 90 miles distance.
      1. anjey
        anjey 5 November 2017 18: 46 New
        +3
        and the Yankees are viewing us from almost all borders ...., you understand the ring of anaconda ...
        1. Viktor is the winner
          Viktor is the winner 6 November 2017 22: 34 New
          +1
          In particular, the Kaliningrad province love to watch live.
  6. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 5 November 2017 18: 19 New
    15
    It seems that they have begun to feel public opinion, it is necessary to check them for lice, at the same time and reaction. I am for.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 5 November 2017 18: 28 New
      +8
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      I am for.

      noted ... hi
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 5 November 2017 20: 02 New
        10
        Mutually ...drinks
    2. Fedya2017
      Fedya2017 5 November 2017 18: 39 New
      +8
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      It seems like they have begun to probe public opinion,

      It seems that you have too good an opinion about the Russian elites ... It is unlikely that they are interested in "public opinion". Their opinion depends on their own money stored in the United States.
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 5 November 2017 20: 09 New
        +7
        I have a mixed opinion about the Russian elite; in the text I had in mind bourgeois public opinion wink
  7. analgin
    analgin 5 November 2017 18: 20 New
    +9
    And did anyone ask Cubans whether they want a Russian base or not? request
    1. Romario_Argo
      Romario_Argo 5 November 2017 18: 26 New
      +3
      and from this, let Lavrov’s headache in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
      1. analgin
        analgin 5 November 2017 18: 32 New
        +7
        Quote: Romario_Argo
        and from this, let Lavrov’s headache in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs

        And what about Lavrov? Most recently, they also said the same thing: how are we going to place a military base in Vietnam right now ... And? What did Vietnam answer to this?
        1. Sewer krainiy
          Sewer krainiy 6 November 2017 00: 23 New
          +2
          And what about Lavrov? Most recently, they also said the same thing: how are we going to place a military base in Vietnam right now ... And? What did Vietnam answer to this?
          Is this what Kamrani wanted to restore the base? I have not heard, but it's time. And what did Vietnam answer?
        2. analgin
          analgin 6 November 2017 09: 02 New
          0
          Quote: analgin
          Quote: Romario_Argo
          and from this, let Lavrov’s headache in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs

          And what about Lavrov? Most recently, they also said the same thing: how are we going to place a military base in Vietnam right now ... And? What did Vietnam answer to this?

          And so he answered
          Vietnam ruled out the appearance of a Russian military base in the country

          https://www.gazeta.ru/army/news/9215171.shtml
      2. LSA57
        LSA57 5 November 2017 18: 57 New
        +6
        Quote: Romario_Argo
        and from this, let Lavrov’s headache in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs

        and if sent by forest? Throw "Topol"? economically Cuba doesn’t depend on us in any way
    2. Grandfather
      Grandfather 5 November 2017 18: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: analgin
      And did anyone ask Cubans whether they want a Russian base or not? request

      so what ?
    3. NKT
      NKT 5 November 2017 20: 16 New
      +3
      30 billion. $ We wrote off to them .... do not appreciate?
    4. purple
      purple 5 November 2017 21: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: analgin
      And did anyone ask Cubans whether they want a Russian base or not? request

      are you cuban
  8. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 5 November 2017 18: 22 New
    +8
    Oh, what’s so bad, Mr. Dzhabarov belay Americans are not afraid to place their missile defense near the borders of Russia, fearing to ruin relations with it wink
    And the base will be a kind of reminder that the time of the orgy is already behind. The gun at the temple is kind.
    And then it’s completely reckless and not afraid of steel lol
  9. izya top
    izya top 5 November 2017 18: 22 New
    +8
    Placing Russian military base in Cuba could aggravate relations with Washington
    and now we have pink snot what
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 5 November 2017 21: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: izya top
      and now we have pink snot
      I wouldn’t step on the same rake .... it’s better to help raise the Cuban economy and give me the opportunity to defend myself and receive dividends from this ..... and they will die out completely with our missiles .... and it’s better to do it from the USA this together will be better for everyone ..... good
      1. izya top
        izya top 5 November 2017 21: 09 New
        +2
        Quote: XXXIII
        and do it better from the usa together, it will be better for everyone .....

        do you mean us all?
        Quote: XXXIII
        It’s better to help boost Cuba’s economy and enable it to protect itself and receive dividends from it ...

        they already helped us with this ... that the result is unsatisfactory (not to say even worse)
        1. XXXIII
          XXXIII 5 November 2017 21: 22 New
          +1
          Quote: izya top
          do you mean us all?
          Cuba is building relations with the United States, we need current help in this matter, we are the most powerful diplomats ... yes
          they already helped us in this ...
          Well, do not go headlong into the pool, but approach this issue capitalistically ... hit the American burger with a Russian burger ... lol
          1. izya top
            izya top 5 November 2017 21: 51 New
            +2
            Quote: XXXIII
            Well, do not go headlong into the pool, but approach this issue capitalistically ... hit the American burger with a Russian burger ..

            they have only one rule in this respect - everything is possible for me, but to you - what I will allow
            1. XXXIII
              XXXIII 5 November 2017 21: 56 New
              +2
              Quote: izya top
              they have only one rule in this respect - everything is possible for me, but to you - what I will allow
              weapons will be negotiating here, we already understood that ....
      2. Viktor is the winner
        Viktor is the winner 6 November 2017 22: 43 New
        +2
        An impossible task, since the location of this state for the USA is equal to our Ukraine, and no one will drag the burden of restoring the economy of CUBA. We have our own economy in recession. The USA is not honey either, they are in search of someone else to rob and force to work for themselves to ensure the recovery of their own economy.
  10. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 5 November 2017 18: 24 New
    11
    Dzhabarov told what could be the deployment of the Russian military base in Cuba
    Yes, I agree that the respected general ... can fit in ten chairs. this is his conquest. But Russia's interests lie on a different plane. Sovereignty. And if someone tramples on him, he should receive a mirror answer.
    Only then can we sleep peacefully.
  11. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 5 November 2017 18: 24 New
    0
    and the threat of placing a full-time base on a cube?
    1. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian 5 November 2017 18: 31 New
      +1
      Cuba has a us base - guantanamo
    2. DenZ
      DenZ 5 November 2017 18: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: seregatara1969
      and the threat of placing a full-time base on a cube?

      Our regrets from the Foreign Ministry. No more.
    3. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 5 November 2017 18: 50 New
      +7
      Even more respect for Russia
  12. q75agent
    q75agent 5 November 2017 18: 24 New
    0
    Dzhabarov not mishandled Cossacks wink
  13. Sars
    Sars 5 November 2017 18: 26 New
    +9
    Let's start from the beginning. Does Jabarov have money abroad (real estate, stocks)?
    Ruble - for a hundred that is. Pending confiscation, what can he say about America? Naturally, a base in Cuba is not needed, and so on. It would be our FSB right-isolated all potential friends of America in power.
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 5 November 2017 19: 37 New
      +4
      Quote: SarS
      Does Jabarov have money abroad (real estate, stocks)?

      I'm sorry, but why do you think the FSB General is complete idiots who hide their money abroad, knowing that they can be arrested at any time? Well, since you know about it, he doesn’t know?
      1. purple
        purple 5 November 2017 21: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: LSA57
        Quote: SarS
        Does Jabarov have money abroad (real estate, stocks)?

        I'm sorry, but why do you think the FSB General is complete idiots who hide their money abroad, knowing that they can be arrested at any time? Well, since you know about it, he doesn’t know?

        Dzhabarov surname .... well, he’s such a “general” ..... like from an amn bullet .... with such statements ...
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 5 November 2017 21: 40 New
          +5
          Quote: purple
          . as from amna bullet .... with such statements ...

          oh how belay The president, a former KGB-FSB officer, holds in the generals an incompetent person who expressed a point of view that does not correspond to the opinion of the VO subscriber. Well then, here on the site, who disagree with you amno?
  14. Egorovich
    Egorovich 5 November 2017 18: 28 New
    11
    If this is possible, then it is imperative to deploy a Russian military base in Cuba. Whether mattresses like it or not, no one will ask for their opinions. They want to negotiate, they themselves will come running. From such a placement, the striped ability will only dramatically improve.
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 5 November 2017 20: 00 New
      +4
      Quote: Egorovich
      If this is possible, then it is imperative to deploy a Russian military base in Cuba.

      Well, probably the keyword IF? and IF Cubans are against?
      1. analgin
        analgin 5 November 2017 20: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: LSA57
        Quote: Egorovich
        If this is possible, then it is imperative to deploy a Russian military base in Cuba.

        Well, probably the keyword IF? and IF Cubans are against?

        But why do the Cubans?
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 5 November 2017 20: 23 New
          +4
          Quote: analgin
          But why do the Cubans?

          what?
      2. Egorovich
        Egorovich 5 November 2017 20: 38 New
        +9
        Most likely Cuba will not mind, they will receive a big and good jackpot for this. This Russia will calculate whether we need it.
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 5 November 2017 21: 43 New
          +4
          Quote: Egorovich
          they will get a big and good jackpot for this

          get a good return as Poles and image in a gay2rop who posted a missile sasha. it means they are there, that they have set up foreign rockets in themselves, and the Cubans are well done? laughing and who else was talking about double standards?
  15. Million
    Million 5 November 2017 18: 29 New
    +8
    NATO troops treading water at our borders, and General Jabarov is afraid to upset American comrades with our base in Cuba
  16. Fedya2017
    Fedya2017 5 November 2017 18: 31 New
    13
    It seems that Dzhabarov confirmed the famous statement of the American Brzezinski ... Since then, only the amount “stored” by Russian elites in the United States has increased.
    1. Victor-M
      Victor-M 5 November 2017 19: 48 New
      +2
      Quote: Fedya2017
      Since then, only the amount “stored” by Russian elites in the United States has increased.

      Do you have account numbers, or is that an assumption?
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 5 November 2017 20: 22 New
        +9
        Quote: Victor-M
        Do you have account numbers, or is that an assumption?

        This is a troll, do not get fooled ...
        1. Fedya2017
          Fedya2017 5 November 2017 21: 00 New
          0
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          This is a troll, do not get fooled ..

          Are you broadcasting from Olgino? Or "for no reason"? ...
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 5 November 2017 21: 03 New
            +9
            Quote: Fedya2017
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            This is a troll, do not get fooled ..

            Are you broadcasting from Olgino? Or "for no reason"? ...

            Think how you prefer. You are not interesting for me request
            1. Fedya2017
              Fedya2017 5 November 2017 21: 49 New
              +1
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Think how you prefer. You are not interesting for me

              Uninteresting, but for some reason you are writing about me to a third party ... And how do you feel about someone who will say something similar about you? Do you recognize only two opinions - “His” and “Not right”?! ...
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 5 November 2017 22: 03 New
                10
                I will feed, so be it, once again:
                Quote: Fedya2017
                Uninteresting, but for some reason you are writing about me to a third party.

                Everything is clearly written there, in my opinion. No?
                The question is rhetorical, no need to answer.
                Quote: Fedya2017
                And how do you feel about someone who will say something like that about you?

                I'm exactly. Already claimed and continue. They don’t violate their rights, they don’t break the rules ... but I don’t give a damn, I know everything about myself yes

                Quote: Fedya2017
                Do you recognize only two opinions - “His” and “Not right” ?!

                Wrong - together ... shkolota.
                You have no "opinion." And the training manual, by which you have been scurrying around here, has been using it for five years now ... the same are not so close to you.
                All. I won’t feed anymore, untie two bast shoes stop
                1. Fedya2017
                  Fedya2017 6 November 2017 00: 08 New
                  +2
                  "Wrong - together ... shkolota." ----- Dear "teacher", for your information - when in the text of one sentence is written or REPRESENTED within the meaning of OPPOSITION, for example - two opposing opinions of "Own" (that is, "correct"), and "Not own" ( ie “not correct”), the particle “Not” is written SEPARATELY with the word, but not together. If I wrote, like - "Your opinion
                  wrong, "SEPARATELY then you would be right. But, alas, to you ...
                  .................................................
                  .................................................
                  ........................
                  ........ Take your bast shoes and do not lose on the go.
                  1. AllXVahhaB
                    AllXVahhaB 6 November 2017 20: 52 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Fedya2017
                    "Wrong - together ... shkolota." ----- Dear "teacher", for your information - when in the text of one sentence is written or REPRESENTED within the meaning of OPPOSITION, for example - two opposing opinions of "Own" (that is, "correct"), and "Not own" ( ie “not correct”), the particle “Not” is written SEPARATELY with the word, but not together. If I wrote, like - "Your opinion
                    wrong, "SEPARATELY then you would be right. But, alas, to you ...

                    In which vocational school did you study Russian? laughing
                    What is the confrontation in one sentence? belay
                    I do not know how to do it right, but you're doing wrong.
                    Confrontation? Yes. In one sentence? Yes. So why is it together?
                    I spend an educational program: we write the word "wrong" together, except when a comma and the union "a" follow immediately after this word.
                    examples:
                    Wheel set not properlybut randomly.
                    Your point of view not correct, but erroneous.
                    If you try to do everything right, then in some cases it may turn out completely not properlyand vice versa wrong.
                    Teacher said not properlyand vice versa wrongto draw students to a common mistake.
                    You really, in the elite ranks, connoisseurs of the Russian language do not mess around with your .... education! negative
                    1. Fedya2017
                      Fedya2017 6 November 2017 22: 45 New
                      0
                      Quote: AllXVahhaB
                      You really, in the elite ranks, connoisseurs of the Russian language do not panic, with your .... education

                      Not ..., I'm in the same row with you. But your bast shoes, still do not lose ...
                      1. AllXVahhaB
                        AllXVahhaB 7 November 2017 03: 59 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Fedya2017
                        Not ..., I'm in the same row with you.

                        So why are you climbing then? Are you being held here forcibly? Or are you here for work, as many say?
                        Quote: Fedya2017
                        But your bast shoes, still do not lose ...

                        Apparently, they do not write about this in manuals. So I’ll explain: a joke (and not only) repeated twice - stupidity, repeated three times - a diagnosis ().
                        So try to diversify your syllable. Use various postulates. Do not repeat the same thing from post to post. And then look ...
              2. AllXVahhaB
                AllXVahhaB 6 November 2017 20: 38 New
                0
                Quote: Fedya2017
                Do you recognize only two opinions - “His” and “Not right”?! ...

                Not quite so: "Ours" and "Alien"!
                1. Fedya2017
                  Fedya2017 8 November 2017 00: 07 New
                  0
                  Quote: AllXVahhaB
                  Not quite so: "Ours" and "Alien"!

                  Is this your doctor? It can be seen that the good guy ... To the Internet allows you ...
                  1. AllXVahhaB
                    AllXVahhaB 8 November 2017 03: 21 New
                    0
                    Quote: Fedya2017
                    Is this your doctor? It can be seen that the good guy ... To the Internet allows you ...

                    negative
      2. Fedya2017
        Fedya2017 5 November 2017 20: 57 New
        0
        Quote: Victor-M
        Do you have account numbers, or is that an assumption?

        In February, Trump promises to expose and confiscate. Do you have a lot to keep there?
        1. AllXVahhaB
          AllXVahhaB 6 November 2017 20: 56 New
          0
          Quote: Fedya2017
          In February, Trump promises to expose and confiscate.

    2. AllXVahhaB
      AllXVahhaB 6 November 2017 20: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: Fedya2017
      It seems that Dzhabarov confirmed the famous statement of the American Brzezinski ...

      Shitty collage. Putin doesn’t even have offshore accounts, Yeltsin is dead, is the rest the Russian elite? Is Abramovich deciding who to strike a nuclear strike at? Bullshit!
  17. Herculesic
    Herculesic 5 November 2017 18: 34 New
    +8
    It’s as if the Yankees and I are now just fabulously great! fool It’s necessary not to shake with fear, like a given sir, but just like the United States, just defend the interests of your country! am And by the way, with such thoughts the general needs to think at least about a change of duty, or honestly resign! !!
  18. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 5 November 2017 18: 36 New
    +5
    Quote: Million
    NATO troops treading water at our borders, and General Jabarov is afraid to upset American comrades with our base in Cuba

    As if the general hadn’t missed one place. The Russian Federation is under siege of their bases and lackeys, and in Cuba, nothing is lower for us - all this is somehow strange. bully
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 5 November 2017 20: 25 New
      +5
      Quote: Vlad5307
      Cuba doesn’t mean anything to us; all this is somehow strange.

      maybe you forgot that Cuba is a sovereign state and at least they need permission to ask
  19. Gleb Molchanov
    Gleb Molchanov 5 November 2017 18: 45 New
    +1
    And in Nicaragua and Cuba, missile defense against DPRK missiles. This is the same as missile defense in Romania and Poland from Iran missiles. America understands only power.
  20. BVS
    BVS 5 November 2017 18: 46 New
    +3
    Quote: SarS
    Let's start from the beginning. Does Jabarov have money abroad (real estate, stocks)?
    Ruble - for a hundred that is. Pending confiscation, what can he say about America? Naturally, a base in Cuba is not needed, and so on. It would be our FSB right-isolated all potential friends of America in power.

    And if this FSB general will sue you in our independent Basmanny court for libel (the assertion that the general has something in the US territory), then you will prove how?
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 5 November 2017 19: 38 New
      +4
      Quote: bvs
      , then you will prove how?

      already proven. "I give a ruble for a hundred"
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 5 November 2017 19: 51 New
      +5
      Counterclaim in Sverdlovsk. How do you like this idea?
    3. purple
      purple 5 November 2017 21: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: bvs
      Quote: SarS
      Let's start from the beginning. Does Jabarov have money abroad (real estate, stocks)?
      Ruble - for a hundred that is. Pending confiscation, what can he say about America? Naturally, a base in Cuba is not needed, and so on. It would be our FSB right-isolated all potential friends of America in power.

      And if this FSB general will sue you in our independent Basmanny court for libel (the assertion that the general has something in the US territory), then you will prove how?

      let him prove first ... but there will be no evidence ... that he is already corrupt
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 5 November 2017 21: 48 New
        +4
        Quote: purple
        let him prove first ..

        about the presumption of innocence means not by hearing not by spirit
        Quote: purple
        but there will be no evidence ...

        somewhere I've heard this before ... it seems that the fenders are responding to us like that. and they also say, "There is evidence, but we won’t show it to you."
        Quote: purple
        the fact that he is corrupt is already clear

        where from? OBS agency said?
  21. Yuriy71
    Yuriy71 5 November 2017 18: 46 New
    +9
    But the Americans do not worry at all that they will aggravate relations with Russia, strangling it with their bases from all sides! Oh, the eternal Russian "as if something did not work out ...". There is no hardness, that's why everything is done in one place.
  22. bulbash70
    bulbash70 5 November 2017 18: 49 New
    +5
    Dzhabarova-to the wall! As a scum corrupt.
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 5 November 2017 19: 18 New
      +4
      Quote: bulbash70
      Dzhabarova-to the wall! As a scum corrupt.

      It's time to return to the articles "For treason to the motherland ..."
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 5 November 2017 19: 40 New
      +6
      Quote: bulbash70
      Dzhabarova-to the wall! As a scum corrupt.

      because Cuba does not want our base?
      1. purple
        purple 5 November 2017 21: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: LSA57
        Quote: bulbash70
        Dzhabarova-to the wall! As a scum corrupt.

        because Cuba does not want our base?

        Do not mislead people ... Cuba wants our base ...
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 5 November 2017 22: 02 New
          +4
          Quote: purple
          Cuba wants our base ...

          where is this ????? where and to whom did they say that ?????
  23. eugraphus
    eugraphus 5 November 2017 18: 56 New
    +4
    You can be afraid to spoil a damaged relationship when you are generally afraid of something to answer and are looking for an excuse.
  24. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 5 November 2017 19: 02 New
    +8
    Cuba is ready, the Americans again showed them nevermind, if only our more, to put it mildly, did not fail their Cuban comrades.
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 5 November 2017 19: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      Cuba is ready, the Americans again showed them nevermind, if only our more, to put it mildly, did not fail their Cuban comrades.

      While the oligarchs are at the helm of our economy ... And with Cuba, you can establish such good relations that the United States will simply choke on its bile. In Cuba, good medicine, you can borrow the experience of Cuban doctors ... Although ... if they pay ours, the profession of a doctor will again become prestigious. But, Cuba is a potential market for Russian goods and technologies ... Like the DPRK ...
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 5 November 2017 19: 40 New
        +8
        I completely agree, this will entail even greater economic cooperation, if only we would not stop halfway.
  25. assa67
    assa67 5 November 2017 19: 03 New
    +4
    repeating "Anadyr" now will be difficult: there are many reasons, from the state of the fleet to the political will of both our leaders and Cuban ... and even the Venezuelan (as an option to deploy the base) .... would Fidel and Chavez ... ...
  26. weksha50
    weksha50 5 November 2017 19: 09 New
    +4
    ""The new deployment of a Russian military base on Liberty Island can only provoke Americans to militant steps" in relation to Russia"...

    Hmm .... And where to further provoke it? They have already surrounded Russia so much that it remains only to really start a hot war ...
    The only thing we can agree with him (the senator) is that at least Cuba would first be asked if she would let Russia into her home with a new military base ...
    And again, idle talk: base, base ... And right away they put rockets in the photo ... But the base in Lourdes was that, missile ???
  27. alkor
    alkor 5 November 2017 19: 23 New
    +4
    No rockets needed. There was a wonderful center for tracking amers, it annoyed the Yankees very much. Cuba still received a normal rent for him, and from this we must start again. And then cover up defenseless "signalmen" humanly, with tanks and airplanes. Troll even more amers. You look, they will think. So, slowly, without sudden movements, turn around in Cuba to its full height. Americans from Europe put a gun at our temple. To calm their arrogance is only our gun, which is placed against their forehead. Let them get used to the idea that we are near)
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 5 November 2017 19: 42 New
      +4
      Everyone is discussing this issue, as if it was up to us. You might think that the Cubans have already sent the invitation, but ours are thinking whether to place it or not.
  28. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 5 November 2017 19: 32 New
    +9
    The first deputy head of the committee of the Russian Federation Council for Defense and Security, Franz Klintsevich, believes that Russia should restore its military base in Cuba.
    “I believe that every effort should be made, but our base in Cuba - a naval and aviation complex - should be. This is a key moment, ”said Klintsevich.
    But this person has the right to make official statements, which means that everything is agreed upon and when meeting with Tramplin, they will somehow be voiced.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 5 November 2017 22: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      Klintsevich believes that Russia should restore its military base in Cuba

      What base needs to be RESTORED? We in Cuba did not have stationary bases, except for the electronic intelligence center in Lourdes.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 5 November 2017 23: 39 New
        +9
        Quote: Piramidon
        We in Cuba did not have stationary bases, except for the electronic intelligence center in Lourdes

        Do not scare the stravus, the floor is concreted ...
        I bet most of the "patriotic" comments that are written here are about "necessary-right-now-right now" and such words have been heard - Lourdes ...
        And so what and why was there, and why it was removed from there - this is a mystery for them with seven seals.
        But opinion - have (s) belay
  29. Radikal
    Radikal 5 November 2017 19: 35 New
    +1
    I do not think that this is the best option, it can increase the confrontation between Russia and the United States,
    noted senator.
    The United States is not hesitating to place any weapons and contingents near our borders, and God forgive me, Senator speaks of a possible increase in confrontation if our troops are deployed in Cuba! The question is, why the hell do we need such senators ?! sad
  30. DPN
    DPN 5 November 2017 19: 35 New
    +1
    Maybe enough to be cowardly, unless of course the CUBA is not opposed and will believe Russia.
  31. Strashila
    Strashila 5 November 2017 19: 41 New
    +4
    "The deployment of a Russian military base in Cuba could aggravate relations with Washington and lead to a second Caribbean crisis, RIA Novosti reports the opinion of the deputy head of the international committee of the Federation Council, FSB general Vladimir Dzhabarov" ... something is not clear ... but he’s actually a senator of whose power ... that he cares so much about the USA. It is up to us and the Cubans to resolve this issue if there is no base there and the confrontation ends with the USA ... something like this is not expected. The experience of Syria has shown ... that it is not necessary to do anything global ... Caliber in ground execution will be enough ... well, missile defense, air defense, and electronic warfare were ordered by God ... a little VKS ... to cover our Bears and Swans.
  32. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 5 November 2017 19: 44 New
    +2
    The balance of nuclear forces is not at all what it was during the Caribbean crisis.

    And the threshold of pain sensitivity on the contrary greatly decreased. If then 3 intercontinental R-7 + were scared of a certain number of RSD in Cuba - and, without warheads, now they are even more afraid of nuclear confrontation.

    But any other confrontation may well be.
  33. Eurodav
    Eurodav 5 November 2017 19: 47 New
    +1
    And if the amers succeeded, they would have created a base there tomorrow and they would have nevermind on someone’s opinion! You don’t have to go there right away with the whole arsenal, quiet glanders ...
  34. Eurodav
    Eurodav 5 November 2017 19: 49 New
    0
    Quote: Evrodav
    And if the amers succeeded, they would have created a base there tomorrow and they would have nevermind on someone’s opinion! You don’t have to go there right away with the whole arsenal, quiet glanders ...

    PS: and the words of this leader are given some sort of rotten !!!
  35. BVS
    BVS 5 November 2017 19: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: Esoteric
    Quote: ul_vitalii
    Cuba is ready, the Americans again showed them nevermind, if only our more, to put it mildly, did not fail their Cuban comrades.

    While the oligarchs are at the helm of our economy ... And with Cuba, you can establish such good relations that the United States will simply choke on its bile. In Cuba, good medicine, you can borrow the experience of Cuban doctors ... Although ... if they pay ours, the profession of a doctor will again become prestigious. But, Cuba is a potential market for Russian goods and technologies ... Like the DPRK ...

    And how will Cuba pay for Russian goods, again on credit, and then debt relief? It has already been, it has already passed. In 2014, the president of Russia, on the eve of his official visit to the country, generously wrote off 90% (or $ 31,7 billion) of Cuba's enormous debt to the USSR of $ 35,2 billion.
    1. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 5 November 2017 20: 30 New
      +7
      These losses can be many times greater, since the additional placement of one full-blooded division at its borders will require significant funds, it is better to play ahead of the curve and away from the borders, here is politics, not business. Otherwise, by expanding our activities overseas, we can ease the pressure its borders (as a subject of negotiations).
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      1. purple
        purple 5 November 2017 21: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
        Quote: Ilja2016
        In Cuba, the base should be required. And it is advisable to create bases throughout South America

        Due de laughing neg from the sale of your apartment ...

        live on a removable chtoli laughing laughing
        Base to be! But the ovs must be attacked proactively ... Stop-up there is a mess worse than ours, in the military sphere, now they are not ready, and will not be able to answer.
        If you delay, they will choke us economically, it’s also a war ... but they do not die from it right away, but gradually ... no one pays attention to it.
        But she is already coming!
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  37. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 5 November 2017 19: 54 New
    +1
    Quote: Radikal
    I do not think that this is the best option, it can increase the confrontation between Russia and the United States,
    noted senator.
    The United States is not hesitating to place any weapons and contingents near our borders, and God forgive me, Senator speaks of a possible increase in confrontation if our troops are deployed in Cuba! The question is, why the hell do we need such senators ?! sad

    Agree
  38. BVS
    BVS 5 November 2017 19: 56 New
    +2
    Quote: Evrodav
    And if the amers succeeded, they would have created a base there tomorrow and they would have nevermind on someone’s opinion! You don’t have to go there right away with the whole arsenal, quiet glanders ...

    The American military base in Cuba was and is Guantanamo. The base in Guantanamo Bay (English Guantanamo Bay Naval Base) is a US naval base rented in 1903 after the Spanish-American War in the Gulf of Guantanamo Bay (Cuba) [1], 30 km from the city of the same name.
  39. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 5 November 2017 20: 10 New
    +1
    It is about restoring a military intelligence center, and not about deploying weapons there. Well, Dzhabarov, what can you take from him? Apparently sitting on a choke from the mattresses .. drinks
  40. kubanec
    kubanec 5 November 2017 20: 21 New
    +1
    place, unambiguously place
  41. Going
    Going 5 November 2017 20: 29 New
    10
    Therefore, the final answer is still not for the politicians, but for the military experts and the Supreme Commander.


    This is just a reminder to our partners not to bury themselves.
  42. Gray brother
    Gray brother 5 November 2017 20: 35 New
    +3
    Anarchist,
    Then back to the question - Why is there no point in rockets in Cuba?
    And then you somehow contradict yourself ...

    1) Because Russia is not going to attack the United States.
    2) Based on paragraph 1, they will be destroyed there before they launch.
    1. Anarchist
      Anarchist 6 November 2017 00: 46 New
      13
      So not for an attack! To contain! By your logic and in the country, nuclear weapons do not need to be stored, since we are not going to attack? And in order to have time to launch missiles from the island of Cuba, they came up with ...

      Scold excuses, by golly ...
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 6 November 2017 00: 51 New
        +8
        Quote: Anarchist
        And in order to have time to launch missiles from the island of Cuba, they invented

        For those who were bitten ... I won’t say who - again:
        Did someone call you to Cuba? Who and when, if called?
  43. Nemesis
    Nemesis 5 November 2017 20: 42 New
    +2
    Let Dzhabarov prepare khachapuri in his own kitchen, and they can figure out politics without him. The USA does not think that they complicate relations with the Russian Federation by deploying their missile defense systems, and now Tomahawk cruise missiles, and Russia will respond in a mirror the actions of the United States are supposedly impossible ... Your advice, Jabarov, doesn’t suit us ... You better give advice to your government in Uzbekistan, but in Russia it’s full of local people who will decide how to live without advice of foreigners.
    1. Fedya2017
      Fedya2017 5 November 2017 21: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: Nemesis
      and in Russia there are a lot of local people who will decide how to live without the advice of foreigners.

      When did the local population in Russia decide how to live? ...
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 5 November 2017 23: 15 New
        +2
        Well, without the advice of the Uzbeks who turned a huge modern aviation plant in Tashkent into a pasture for sheep, Russia will definitely do. Besides, there is no longer a scoop and representatives of its indigenous population, and not migrants, should lead Russia. In countries such as Nepal and the UAE, even the citizenship of the country has only descendants of marriages between the representatives of the indigenous population of these countries and no one considers this to be something not normal. It’s not normal to give your country an insult to foreigners.
        1. Fedya2017
          Fedya2017 6 November 2017 01: 00 New
          +1
          Quote: Nemesis
          Well, without the advice of the Uzbeks

          But am I really an Uzbek ???! ... I’m generally parallel to what these Uzbeks turned their factories there. I see what many factories in my Russia have turned into.
          Quote: Nemesis
          It’s not normal to give your country outrage to foreigners.

          This is a question for the Kremlin sitters ... Why do they allow them to import into Russia echelons of different migrant workers? In addition to "also Russians" ...
          1. Nemesis
            Nemesis 6 November 2017 01: 08 New
            +2
            This question arises not only with you, and we all know the answer to it. Ruble patriotism does not suffer and has long been making money on everything, including the destruction of Russia. But this is a slightly different topic ... There is a conversation that Dzhabarov and others like him, unable to restore order and boost the economy in their homeland, constantly go to Russia to give (smart) advice, without which the indigenous population of Russia will completely manage. ...
  44. Prutkov
    Prutkov 5 November 2017 20: 42 New
    +1
    I think that it’s more urgent in Cuba to deploy not missiles, but the RT radio and radio station. So it will be more effective.
    1. aiden
      aiden 6 November 2017 04: 28 New
      0
      and litter the broadcasts of RT
  45. MOSKVITYANIN
    MOSKVITYANIN 5 November 2017 20: 53 New
    +1
    Dzhabarov recalled that in the history of relations between the USSR and the USA there was already a Caribbean crisis. According to him, "a new deployment of a Russian military base on Liberty Island can only provoke Americans to take militant steps" against Russia, "the Caribbean crisis may repeat itself."

    Another henchman of the empirialists, sold out to the American military not otherwise ....
    It depends on which WB it will be stationed there, the deployment of a limited contingent of the RF Armed Forces will be enough - a naval aviation aerodrome, a naval airborne defense base and a reconnaissance center with a radar (observation of surface and underwater conditions at sea, radio interception stations - an analogue of the Anglo-American Echelon system), more Do not need...
  46. MOSKVITYANIN
    MOSKVITYANIN 5 November 2017 21: 00 New
    0
    Soviet missile in Cuba

    And what is the American tractor pictured in the photo? Obviously not KrAZik ....
  47. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 5 November 2017 21: 07 New
    +7
    The deployment of missiles in Cuba is the last century, Status-6 is our century, only we delicately need to explain what it is, exists and works.
  48. purple
    purple 5 November 2017 21: 07 New
    +1
    Quote: Esoteric
    Quote: bulbash70
    Dzhabarova-to the wall! As a scum corrupt.

    It's time to return to the articles "For treason to the motherland ..."

    he has no homeland ....
  49. purple
    purple 5 November 2017 21: 10 New
    0
    Quote: ul_vitalii
    The deployment of missiles in Cuba is the last century, Status-6 is our century, only we delicately need to explain what it is, exists and works.

    need to demonstrate .... on the pacific coast of the usa
  50. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 5 November 2017 21: 11 New
    +3
    Why these disputes? The price for such a base is well known --- to contain the Cuban economy. Will we also extend Cuba? No, that’s all.
    Or do you think the Cubans are from an old friendship, but for the cause of the world revolution are they ready to draw a white cross on their backs? So no one attacks them, and even vice versa --- they make business offers.
    "missiles in Cuba" is from the same opera as the "Nicaraguan Canal" --- an unreal thing.
    1. purple
      purple 5 November 2017 21: 25 New
      +3
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      Or do you think the Cubans are from an old friendship, but for the cause of the world revolution are they ready to draw a white cross on their backs?

      it’s been painted all their lives ... one less than one less what difference .... if you shake yourself at the word USA it is not necessary to transfer to others
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 5 November 2017 21: 50 New
        +4
        Quote: purple
        ... one less than one less what difference ....

        The Cubans don’t care, they actually need up to 5 billion a year to invest, so that the economy doesn’t stagnate. Due to the reduction in the supply of almost free Venezuelan oil, this figure is increasing. Cubans sell 90% of their sugar and tobacco to the United States, remittances to the island from the USA, former compatriots make up a considerable share in the country's economy, the American telecom and American tourism to the island begins to develop, which is also the currency. And here it is proposed to refuse all this, and for what and who will compensate, will Rotenberg send them money? then we all throw bold slogans, be rude and tear America. And as you get into these numbers, only rudeness doubles, and there is nothing more to say in response.
        1. purple
          purple 5 November 2017 22: 01 New
          +1
          How did they live before that ... oh oh oh
          according to your sources, Russia should already be a long time ago.
          where are the numbers from?
          Figured it out myself? But trade is such a thing ... replacing is not a problem, there would be guarantees
          1. Cossack 471
            Cossack 471 10 November 2017 21: 29 New
            +1
            To start in Cuba, you need at least a large rubber ear. to listen to the adversary