Russia condemned the United States for its reluctance to support the resolution against the glorification of Nazism

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In Russia, they are disappointed with the reluctance of the United States to support the Russian resolution on combating the glorification of Nazism, the Russian embassy in Washington comments.

The diplomatic mission recalled that the Russian Federation had begun preparing another UN General Assembly resolution on “Combating the glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to the escalation of modern forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance.”



Russia condemned the United States for its reluctance to support the resolution against the glorification of Nazism


It is noted that dozens of countries traditionally act as co-authors of the resolution, the document is always adopted by an overwhelming majority, but Washington always votes "no". In the 2016 year, only Ukraine and the United States voted against the resolution, Russian diplomats reminded.

The unwillingness of the United States to support the document every time causes bewilderment and disappointment, especially since persistent attempts to explain this position with a concern for freedom of expression seem unconvincing. Especially against the background of the reaction of the American society to the phenomena listed in the resolution in the USA
- stated in the Russian Embassy.

Russian diplomats reported that "the document expresses serious concern about the rise of extremist movements and political parties whose platform is based on the ideology of racism and ethnocentrism, condemning the glorification of the Nazi movement and former members of the Waffen-SS organization, including the opening of monuments and memorials."

In addition, the document "draws attention to the shameful practice of raising to the rank of national heroes and heroes of national liberation movements of those who fought against the anti-Hitler coalition or collaborated with the Nazis," Interfax reports.
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  1. +44
    4 November 2017 19: 20
    And how can America condemn fascism, if it is its main "advance detachment" promoting and cleaning up territories for "democracy".
    1. +31
      4 November 2017 19: 27
      On this very nation of racists, murderers and adventurers there is no place to put stigmas .. How can they condemn themselves?
      Quote: svp67
      And how can America condemn fascism, if it is its main "advance detachment" promoting and cleaning up territories for "democracy".
      1. +7
        4 November 2017 19: 35
        I completely agree! Right!
      2. +7
        4 November 2017 20: 25
        the document expresses serious concern about the rise of extremist movements and political parties, whose platform is based on the ideology of racism and ethnocentrism, condemns the glorification of the Nazi movement and former members of the Waffen-SS organization, including the opening of monuments and memorials

        That's right. You have to fight hard with that. It's a pity that there are Nazis in Russia too. Unfortunately.

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          1. +2
            4 November 2017 20: 36
            Thanks for the adjustment. Already fixed.
            1. +14
              4 November 2017 20: 44
              No reason, Amigo! Always glad to help the fighters against fascism ...
        2. +19
          4 November 2017 20: 37
          Quote: The_Lancet
          That's right. You have to fight hard with that. It's a pity that there are Nazis in Russia too. Unfortunately, it’s not good.

          I agree with you that you need to fight against the Nazis toughly, but we see how the United States fights with the example of this resolution at the United Nations. It is a pity that there are Nazis in the United States. Not good. hi
          1. +4
            4 November 2017 20: 40
            I agree with you that you need to fight against the Nazis toughly, but we see how the United States fights with the example of this resolution at the United Nations. It is a pity that there are Nazis in the United States. Not good. hi

            Where did I say that the Nazis are absent in the USA? Of course, this is not good. Your picture did not surprise me.
            1. +16
              4 November 2017 20: 44
              Quote: The_Lancet
              Where did I say that the Nazis are absent in the USA?

              Thank you for acknowledging this. hi
              Quote: The_Lancet
              These pictures did not surprise me.

              Your pictures do not surprise me either. request hi
              1. +17
                4 November 2017 20: 50
                Vlad, And yours surprise me ... Because I can’t understand:
                How in a country that has suffered the most from the fascist-Nazi regime, can such ... appear?
                But these are the grandchildren of heroes, Winners ...
                1. +14
                  4 November 2017 20: 56
                  Quote: Logall
                  But these are the grandchildren of heroes, winners

                  This is Sanya, most likely great-grandchildren, whom the grandchildren did not hammer into their empty head, what Nazism was and how they suffered from it and what their great-grandfathers fought for, worthless grandchildren, I would have beaten my own negative and my father would also me if I threw something like that. YesLook at the picture of my colleague’s face, damn well-fed, I just want to go up and put this zigzag hand in his ass and if I see this in my city, I’ll surely break both his fucking hands.
                  1. +14
                    4 November 2017 21: 02
                    And most importantly, their ideological leaders, such as the famous Limonov, who are sponsored because of the well-known `` puddle '', do not even have a clue about patriotism! But they hammered together their wards like a love for their homeland, patriotism ...
                    1. +13
                      4 November 2017 21: 14
                      Quote: Logall
                      most importantly, their ideological leaders, such as the famous Limonov, who are sponsored because of the known puddle to us, do not even have a clue about patriotism

                      But I hate their Sanya, all these Limonov, Maltsev and other abominations, as well as their followers, only the state pretends that such a problem does not exist, they are zigzagging on Red Square, but tomorrow it’s all that Maltsev’s trash you want to raise.
                      Quote: Logall
                      But they hammered together their wards like a love for the motherland, patriotism ...

                      In miserable Ukraine, it was hammered for 25 years and how it ended we see the fourth year. drinks hi
                      1. +18
                        4 November 2017 21: 23
                        Today is the holiday of the big icon of the Kazan Mother of God! Let’s drink for her - the liberator, but for all of Russia, the long-suffering ...
                2. +9
                  4 November 2017 21: 37
                  Quote: Logall
                  Vlad, And yours surprise me ... Because I can’t understand:
                  How in a country that has suffered the most from the fascist-Nazi regime, can such ... appear?
                  But these are the grandchildren of heroes, Winners ...

                  finally they present themselves like Russian nationalists ... but this is the current name ... one position of their unfinished leader Maltsev in the Crimea causes laughter !!! laughing laughing laughing before the Crimean spring, he yelled that Ukrainians should be weighed down and Crimea taken away, and as Vova accepted him back to Russia, the bastard of the Malts started yelling that he should be returned to the Svidamites !!! lol lol lol these are our unfinished "nationalists" !!! and laughter and sin !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing laughing
                3. +6
                  4 November 2017 21: 39
                  Quote: Logall
                  But these are the grandchildren of heroes, Winners ...

                  maybe ... Vlasovites ??? winked winked winked laughing laughing
                  1. +13
                    4 November 2017 21: 47
                    Nicholas hi
                    I am pleased to think that the children of the "jackal" Yes
                    1. +6
                      4 November 2017 22: 22
                      Quote: Logall
                      Nicholas hi
                      I am pleased to think that the children of the "jackal" Yes

                      drinks drinks good good good these nonsense deserve a lot of negative epithets !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing God forbid from such nationalists !!! wassat wassat am am am
        3. +10
          4 November 2017 22: 04
          Quote: The_Lancet
          It is unfortunate that there are also Nazis in Russia. Unfortunately.

          Let's just say the photos are already very old. Most of these zigans left our territory and moved to the territory of the country 404 ...
        4. +1
          5 November 2017 04: 43
          Quote: The_Lancet
          in Russia there are also Nazis.

          The Nazis are everywhere, that’s why it is necessary to fight them everywhere, so that there wouldn’t be a state in which they are being fed. This is actually what Russia declares in its resolution. And in return he gets accusations of undemocracy when he begins to determine the Natsik in prisons. Well, from whose side the reproaches, I think it is not necessary to remind ....
        5. 0
          5 November 2017 09: 33
          The fact that there are Nazis in Russia does not mean at all that they are allowed there and are not being prosecuted, as, for example, in Ukraine!
      3. +5
        4 November 2017 21: 33
        Quote: 210ox
        How can they judge themselves?

        at least for a look !!! wassat wassat lol lol lol
    2. +18
      4 November 2017 19: 28
      And it is not for nothing that the United States is called the "IV Reich."
      1. +13
        4 November 2017 19: 38
        Quote: Jedi
        And it is not for nothing that the United States is called the "IV Reich."

        and their capital is Fashington
      2. +6
        4 November 2017 20: 06
        Quote: Jedi
        And it is not for nothing that the United States is called the "IV Reich."

        Yes, it doesn’t matter for what or against what to vote. They for any boil leash would be against us ... request Well, we should not care, because paying attention to them means recognizing that they have achieved the goal ... belay
        1. +9
          4 November 2017 20: 10
          Yes, and a crossbow bolt to them in the back along with their "Wishlist"! am
          1. +3
            4 November 2017 20: 14
            Quote: Jedi
            Yes, and a crossbow bolt to them in the back along with their "Wishlist"! am

            So and I about the same ... laughing
      3. +2
        4 November 2017 21: 05
        Quote: Jedi
        And it is not for nothing that the United States is called the "IV Reich."

        It seems the EU is called the fourth Reich.
        1. +6
          4 November 2017 22: 49
          Honestly, I have not heard this. Only if the EU calls itself that.
      4. +6
        4 November 2017 21: 26
        Quote: Logall
        Today is the holiday of the big icon of the Kazan Mother of God! Let’s drink for her - the liberator, but for all of Russia, the long-suffering ...

        Alexander Hello! I wish you! drinks
    3. +10
      4 November 2017 19: 52
      In 2016, only Ukraine and the United States voted against the resolution, Russian diplomats recalled

      Well, who will vote against himself? request It’s strange that there are no tribalts on this list, Yes
      1. +2
        5 November 2017 06: 52
        Quote: 79807420129
        It’s strange that there are no tribalts on this list,

        Why is that strange? So far, they figured out what they’re talking about and the voting is over.
    4. +3
      4 November 2017 19: 56
      Quote: svp67
      And how can America condemn fascismif this is her main "advance detachment" promoting and cleaning up territories for "democracy".

      But how can Russia condemn the United States for its unwillingness to support the resolution, can you tell me? Will the figs in my pockets be folded? belay
      Zhukov turned over in his grave ... I will not say anything about Stalin ...
      1. +5
        4 November 2017 20: 18
        The logic of the Americans is easy to understand - they are, in principle, against everything that Russia offers. In everything they seem to run into national security! So Ukraine was taught the same thing, the same in everything that happens bad on the territory of the “independent” seems to be the evil intent of the Kremlin, headed by Putin. Well, right one to one! And about the glorification of Nazism, it’s clear that the Americans of those fascists since 1945 have guarded them like their favorite bloodthirsty dogs. And they will continue to protect, because the Americans themselves as fascists from time immemorial (didn’t they forget the Indians?)
    5. +5
      4 November 2017 20: 58
      Nazism is an American tool for achieving geopolitical goals. They periodically feed him in different places. Waiting from the Nazi fathers for condemning Nazism is at least naive.
    6. +1
      4 November 2017 22: 38
      Today, the United States more and more resembles a totalitarian fascist state. Rather, it is closer not to the state, but to the regime. In the coming years, the regime of North Korea or the Pinochet or Samos dittora seem babies ..
  2. +15
    4 November 2017 19: 21
    A country that supports Nazism in the Baltic countries and Ukraine will not vote for such a resolution ... Yes
    which contribute to the escalation of contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance. "

    Moreover, they will not support! This is their main core of foreign policy! am
    1. +9
      4 November 2017 19: 29
      Sasha, if the US supports such a resolution, then it will already turn out to be "honey against bees." Yes
      1. +8
        4 November 2017 19: 40
        Yes Max! And this does not happen ...
        Quote: Jedi
        Sasha, if the US supports such a resolution, then it will already turn out to be "honey against bees." Yes

        They are "exceptional" ... am
        1. +6
          4 November 2017 19: 58
          And then! Exceptional scum! angry
  3. +17
    4 November 2017 19: 28
    Russia is disappointed with US reluctance

    1. +11
      4 November 2017 19: 39
      Quote: iza top
      Russia is disappointed with US reluctance


      If I’m not mistaken, then this is the modern formulation of Catherine the Great’s foreign policy: I want that when in my nose it is drunk, Europe is already coughing down. I do not guarantee the accuracy of the wording, but I think the meaning is clear.
      1. +10
        4 November 2017 19: 50
        If I’m not mistaken, this is the modern formulation of Catherine the Great’s foreign policy: I want to see that when my nose is drunk, Europe is already coughing. I do not guarantee the accuracy of the wording, but I think the meaning is clear.

        Hi dear! hi Yes, something like that! "If you sneezed in St. Petersburg, all of Europe was in a severe cold."
        And Alexander 3, fishing, despite the fact that European ambassadors were waiting for him, he said: "Europe can wait until the sovereign catches a fish. Nothing will happen to her !!!"
        1. +5
          4 November 2017 20: 00
          What are you doing in the past? Who sneezed 150 years ago and who put them in his pants is no longer relevant today. Today it’s disgusting to look at all the attempts of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs to maintain a spat upon face. Well, how do you like? Love for the dollar is evil, you have to love a goat ...
          1. +14
            4 November 2017 21: 49
            And what does "ted" mean ??? The people who DO NOT KNOW their history, have no FUTURE !!! So it is ACTUAL ALWAYS. We need to know how they respected (and feared) this country, and to do EVERYTHING so that it would continue to be so! The task of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is to conduct diplomatic work, the task of the government is to make the economy such (and this seems to be done) so that there is love for the ruble ... So it was hijacked by liberal intelligentsia in Russia for 19 years, it is difficult to restore in 17 years. It is always difficult to build, to break apart - two fingers on the asphalt ... Yes
            1. +10
              4 November 2017 22: 27
              Quote: Cutter
              The people who DO NOT KNOW their history, have no FUTURE .. Yes

              Gold words. It remains to add: those who do not have their own army will feed someone else's. I hope this will not even come to a demonstration
          2. +7
            4 November 2017 21: 57
            Quote: Esoteric
            ..today it's disgusting to look at all the attempts of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs to maintain a spat upon face.

            Sometimes I look at them and agree with you, but very often it is clear that they are playing their own game, which mortals do not understand. It's a shame of course, but we'll take a look
        2. +7
          4 November 2017 21: 55
          Alexander hi it seems to me that the emperor didn’t look so far — Europe is no longer independent, independent. It would be an honor to be invited to be friends ... "Partners" bent, trampled, raped and more ... Well, and figs with them ..
  4. +2
    4 November 2017 19: 30
    Russia condemned
    And it's all?
    1. +8
      4 November 2017 19: 37
      Lavrov is a native of the UN school. Express concern, condemn, take into account ... blah blah ...
      1. +9
        4 November 2017 20: 07
        Quote: Dashout
        Lavrov is a native of the UN school. Express concern, condemn, take into account ... blah blah ...

        Do not confuse warm with soft. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is a polite department for communication with foreign countries. They have such a job. Impolite - GRU and SVR. These don't talk to anyone at all
      2. +8
        4 November 2017 21: 33
        Quote: Dashout
        Lavrov is a native of the UN school.

        Is there such a school? and there are many students there?
        1. +3
          5 November 2017 10: 30
          In my opinion, the UN blah blah school was organized by Kozyrev. Before this school, there was a school of Mr. NO (Gromyko). Why do I say "school": this is not only the style of the minister’s speech, it’s also the actions (actions) in international politics. They are either clear, hard, fast, or blah blah ... This is in my opinion
          1. +3
            5 November 2017 11: 12
            Quote: Dashout
            Before this school, there was a school of Mr. NO (Gromyko).

            NO, this is VETO. do the same thing now. so what's the difference?
            Quote: Dashout
            these are acts (actions) in international politics.

            and what are they not doing right now? declared war on the Sasha?
    2. +12
      4 November 2017 19: 40
      Quote: Gardamir
      And it's all?

      no, not everything. introduced riot police into the UN hall. what else can diplomats do? what did you wait nuclear missile strike? Can I be more specific?
      1. +4
        4 November 2017 21: 38
        what else can diplomats do?
        And nobody can do anything with us. I know about one that he is a genius in foreign policy. Here is an example of his genius. Walls of sorrow to build, but do not care about the past. If we talk about diplomats, then all Soviet diplomats would not be limited to condemnation. And besides diplomacy, there are other methods.
        In the Urals, American diplomats as masters.
        1. +10
          4 November 2017 22: 04
          Quote: Gardamir
          If we talk about diplomats, then all Soviet diplomats would not be limited to condemnation.

          so what would they do ?????? Well why bother it is not clear what ???
          Quote: Gardamir
          And besides diplomacy, there are other methods.

          Well, what other methods can a diplomat have ??? mattress diplomats do not express concern about our actions? So what?? Imagine that you are a diplomat. WHAT? YOU? CAN? DO?
          1. +12
            4 November 2017 22: 08
            Quote: LSA57
            Imagine that you are a diplomat. WHAT? YOU? CAN? DO?

            You are talking ... with margarine (s). In my little experience communicating with this, ahem, colleague:
            1. There will be no clear and "in the subject" answer.
            2. In the best case, a passage will follow that has nothing to do with the issue. From the word "in general".
            9. At worst, it will simply remain silent. It expresses itself in such a way, and your questions prevent it from feeling its significance.
            IMHO.
            1. +8
              4 November 2017 22: 38
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              You are talking ... with margarine (s). In my little experience communicating with this, ahem, colleague:

              thank you hi met, promised, but I can not resist smile
              1. +3
                5 November 2017 10: 39
                Quote: LSA57
                You are talking ... with margarine (s). In my little experience communicating with this, ahem, colleague:

                A whole bunch of forum participants convincing that there is nothing to do! No need to give sharp "mirror" answers. In a series of programs they show that advisers convince the American president (even before Trump) that the Russians will not answer the same! That is, the stripes are sure that there will not be a sharp answer and they will greet more and more!
                Then on whose side are they playing, whose mill are these soothing (as they say) hot heads in the domestic media space suggesting to exist in the form of margarine? The answer is obvious.
                1. +3
                  5 November 2017 11: 15
                  Quote: Dashout
                  I.e., striped sure that sharp

                  give an example of a "sharp" answer. I mean diplomatic. here you are a diplomat. your "sharp" answer
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                  1. +3
                    5 November 2017 16: 59
                    Well, in vain you are so ... we are talking about personal feelings, and they each have their own. How do you think? should everyone sit with their mouths open and hold the OK sign? Or is this topic only for deep intellectuals like you?
                    1. +9
                      5 November 2017 17: 05
                      Quote: Dashout
                      How do you think?

                      In my opinion, you and your kind are engaged in ... self-satisfaction, I'm sorry.
                      Are you going to give a doctor who will operate on you (God forbid something very serious ... primitive appendicitis, for example) will give advice too? Apparently, still not, because he is a specialist, and you, in this case, are the object of the intervention, no more.
                      You KVS-at the plane on which you fly, will also advise something? Hardly?
                      Duck what the hell are you (and your name is legion laughing ) climb to advise the same Foreign Ministry?
                      Believe me, no matter how foolish you and I are, people work this way and they know their business.
                      Marasmus? Or just a big desire to wave a saber and shake the air, knowingly knowing, will there be nothing for it?
                      In any case, the occupation is extremely ... little respectable, I will say so.
                      1. +3
                        5 November 2017 18: 42
                        Well, what to talk with a person with such a nickname ... Jack is Jack .. You better change your head to striped. Jack striped - that’s the definition!
    3. +8
      4 November 2017 19: 46
      For our part, it is necessary in every possible way to heroize the North American heroes who fought for people's freedom, such as: Winnetu, Chingachguk, Osceola, the Sharp Falcon and others, of which there were many. This is of course a joke, but for some reason we always confine ourselves to some incomprehensible "condemnation" to which they are deeply violet. If I condemn a neighbor in my kitchen in an undertone for smoking and crap on the site, he won’t stop crap and smoking to fix this, you must first tell him out loud and arrogant in the face, and only then if he doesn’t act , then continue to act insolence on impudence, only this way and not otherwise.
      1. +9
        4 November 2017 20: 23
        Quote: Tatar 174
        in every possible way to heroize the North American heroes-fighters for national freedom such as: Winnetu, Chingachguk, Osceola, Sharp Falcon

        Jace Fenimore Cooper and Karl May decided to remember?
        1. 0
          5 November 2017 12: 35
          good They are our favorite writers and their heroes are also our heroes. wink Why not remember.
      2. +5
        4 November 2017 20: 34
        Quote: Tatar 174
        For our part, it is necessary in every possible way to heroize the North American heroes who fought for people's freedom, such as: Winnetu, Chingachguk, Osceola, the Sharp Falcon and others, of which there were many.

        Yeah, and canonize Goiko Mitic laughing
        1. +8
          4 November 2017 21: 02
          Quote: staviator
          Yeah, and canonize Goiko Mitic

          good Class !!!!!
        2. +9
          4 November 2017 21: 37
          Quote: staviator
          Yeah, and canonize Goiko Mitic

          Icon ready soldier fellow
  5. +3
    4 November 2017 19: 37
    glorification of the Nazi movement and former members of the Waffen-SS organization, including the opening of monuments and memorials. "

    Does it not occur to you Tolerasts that we will dig up the Essevites and begin to train our integrity on their turtles?
    "Not a lot, a little more" and in three years of active Russophobia I will do it. And I'll play football.
    There are things that do not need to be remembered. Taboo! Prohibited! Veto!
  6. +6
    4 November 2017 19: 38
    And what is surprising here, mattress-beds are the organizers, financiers and inspirers of Nazism, terrorism and, in general, all the chaos in the world. After all, their past was created by bandits, thieves and murderers, gathered from around the world and immigrating to America.
  7. +5
    4 November 2017 19: 44
    During the Second World War, gentlemen were not taken prisoner from the SS; it is not entirely clear what prevents today from passing the parade of SS veterans in any of the Baltic countries-limitrophs to finally close the question ??? Well, the signal will be to Bandera ...
  8. +2
    4 November 2017 19: 46
    In Nuremberg, only the stubborn and stupid were judged; the rest were by no means rushed to Antarctica. The work of Adik and Yoshi lives and thrives.
  9. +2
    4 November 2017 19: 55
    I think this is a purely political counter-action "to spite Russia."
    1. +1
      4 November 2017 21: 14
      I don’t think so. They have a jump on the principle of freedom and expression ... they are the cradle of democracy .. smile
      In the American delegation, the US position was explained by the fact that the resolution is politicized and infringes on freedom of speech, which contradicts the principles enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. “We unconditionally condemn all forms of religious and ethnic intolerance in our country and around the world. However, the United States cannot support the resolution because it is too narrow and politicized because it imposes unacceptable restrictions on the fundamental principles of expression of freedom of opinion, ”said Stephanie Amadeo, US spokeswoman for the United Nations Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC).

      In 2016, only Ukraine and the United States voted against the resolution, Russian diplomats recalled.

      Probably the Russian Embassy in the USA has no Internet at all ....
      The United States, Ukraine, and Palau voted against the adoption by the Third Committee of the UN General Assembly of a resolution to combat the glorification of Nazism. In Palau, the casualties amounted to approximately 10.5 thousand people ...
      The resolution is submitted to the United Nations at the initiative of Russia for the third time. In November 2014, the United States, Canada and Ukraine spoke out against her. In 2015, 126 countries supported a similar text and four opposed (Canada, Palau, USA and Ukraine).
  10. +7
    4 November 2017 20: 02
    2016, only Ukraine and the United States voted against the resolution

    See for yourself once again who are whose heroes ... fool

    SS runes as symbols in units of the us army

    very funny wassat but no laughing matter ...
  11. +7
    4 November 2017 21: 01
    Surely in the US, many descendants of those who fled to the United States from the Soviet Army in 1945 are in power
  12. +2
    4 November 2017 21: 07
    Well and who in isolation gentlemen
  13. +1
    4 November 2017 22: 30
    Quote: Nikolai Grek
    Quote: Logall
    Vlad, And yours surprise me ... Because I can’t understand:
    How in a country that has suffered the most from the fascist-Nazi regime, can such ... appear?
    But these are the grandchildren of heroes, Winners ...

    finally they present themselves like Russian nationalists ... but this is the current name ... one position of their unfinished leader Maltsev in the Crimea causes laughter !!! laughing laughing laughing before the Crimean spring, he yelled that Ukrainians should be weighed down and Crimea taken away, and as Vova accepted him back to Russia, the bastard of the Malts started yelling that he should be returned to the Svidamites !!! lol lol lol these are our unfinished "nationalists" !!! and laughter and sin !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing laughing

    The only normal ones are RNE Barkashov.
    1. +2
      4 November 2017 23: 53
      Quote: vasilev
      The only normal ones are RNE Barkashov.

      No normal among them! And it never was! Nationalism, Nazism or racism is the destiny of people who are extremely mentally limited, and also, oddly enough, deprived of any cultural identity that would allow them to firmly associate themselves with any nation, because the nation is primarily a cultural phenomenon. These "gentlemen" invent some "biological" differences of the nation such as skin color, eyes, hair, and they react extremely aggressively to everything that differs from this template. At the same time, these “gosopda” do not have the slightest idea about Russian culture (the names of Pushkin, Dostoevsky and so many empty words for them), as well as no knowledge about our history, but their heads are filled with primitive, concocted myths about some “Russo” Aryans. "
      Also, nationalists, in view of their own bankruptcy, feel a constant lack of self-confidence, which is why they have to turn on the ancient and primitive mechanism of self-defense - to get lost in a flock and fall in a crowd on someone who can’t fight back - a favorite tactic of all Natsiks, starting with the bandits of Mussolini and Hitler attack aircraft . Also, this uncertainty makes them look for enemies everywhere, even when there are no real enemies.

      So there isn’t normal among them, neither among the Barkashov’s, nor among the Shultsevsih, nor among the Belov and Thor’s — they are all exactly the same contingent, which is included in all kinds of “basics” and “right sectors”. ...
      1. +3
        5 November 2017 00: 44
        Do not confuse nationalism with Nazism and fascism. I know the RNE charter - there is not what you described — biological differences, myths and other things. They are not against respectable relations with other peoples of the country, but against the fact that the country is influenced or dependent on something from outside, for example, world capitalism and they want Russian power to be at the head of the country. They were called “fascists”, “Nazis” by the Yeltsinoids, Zyuganovites and other “universal people.” Since when did love for your people, pride that you are Russian be Nazism, and now even the word "Russian" is embarrassed to pronounce on the air. At this rate, Russians in Russia will be the second grade.
        1. 0
          5 November 2017 01: 28
          Quote: vasilev
          Do not confuse nationalism with Nazism and fascism

          Yah? the first is simply the stage of the second - as a disease - it can occur in a mild form, or can go into a severe one.
          And yes, of course, the "Ereheneshniks" are not Nazis, especially this, for example, speaks of their "non-Nazi":
          http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/skif_tag/19770500/
          5155152 / 5155152_original.jpg
          or here is their emblem:
          http://f6.s.qip.ru/UN6X8ca8.jpg
          - Compare with Hitler’s swastika - well, there’s nothing in common!
          But this kind of flyers in our hometown of Krasnogorsk in the 90s literally hung on every corner:
          https://forum-antikvariat.ru/uploads/monthly_10_2
          014/post-67790-0-96778900-1414289146_thumb.jpg
          - This, of course, is also stylistically and artistically well not at all like the agitations of the times of adolf alozych in Germany of the early 30s!
          And I saw enough of the “composition” of RNU at the same time - in the 90s, when these not intellectually disfigured young (and not so people) walked around my hometown, zigzagged at every step, and handed out a type of newspaper, Russian Order, free of charge which boiled down to the following: “beat f ... dov - save Russia”, it especially looked good in the light of the fact that all the well-known (at least to me) “f ... dds” were either engineers at our KMZ (where honestly worked for three pennies - my father is a witness), or by doctors, including in the 62nd Moscow Cancer Hospital, where at that time my late grandfather was working, and the doctors were all excellent as one! Perhaps this is in your opinion and there are calls to establish a "Russian" power?
          But the worst thing was that these “black shirts” from RNU showed open aggression against the veterans of the Great Patriotic War, openly swearing them and calling them “communes ...” and other unflattering words, generally behaved one on one like some Ukrainian citizens attacking veterans on May 9th in Ukraine.
          Do you think this is a "love of the homeland"?
          And finally, a cherry on the cake - I am familiar with one very interesting person - a former officer of the Soviet (and then Russian) army, a military translator by profession (into Japanese - he is from the Far East) in civilian life, he studied Japanese, defended thesis on the history of the Japanese sword, in general, an interesting person. part-time father of one of my colleagues. so at a certain stage of his biography he was in that same RNU when I found out about it. he certainly asked what it was and how, so he was not embarrassed to describe the whole essence of this ideology - ordinary fascism, not even veiled. in fact, he left the ranks of this wonderful organization.
          And after that you suggest me to believe that these are NOT fascists? Yes, it’s precisely they who are the most natural German fascists — you ask any veteran of the Great Patriotic War, whoever saw the Nazis in front, who was in the occupation — they will clearly tell you that this is one in one German Nazi time!
          And the HUGE disgrace of modern Russia is that people with such an ideology — a country that defeated fascism — now have free walks! And the members of the RNU are the same enemies of Russia as the Chubais, Kasyanovs, bulk and others, as you yourself said, "universal people" ...

          Py.Sy. And now no one is afraid to speak the word "Russian" on the air - if it is a question of Russian culture, the Russian language. Russian as a nation - they say "Russian" without any bills there. The rest is Russia, our country is multinational, lives with us, if I am not mistaken, as many as 127 peoples and nationalities, and therefore, if we are talking about all the inhabitants of our country. they justly use the word "Russian", which, incidentally, was actively introduced into circulation by the purely Russian Tsar Alexander III ... So, however ...

          Py.Py.Sy .: By the way, to the passage about "Russian power" - here we had Russian tsars - the Romanovs, Tsar Alexander III - a purely Russian man in culture and mentality, who sincerely loved Russia and Russian culture, still pre-Petrine - revives under him , for example, a special style in architecture that reproduces the architecture of Russia from the time of the Rurikovich. So - this same Alexander III was almost a purebred German ... This is to the question of "Russian power" ...
          1. 0
            6 November 2017 15: 25
            Maybe it’s better not in lifejournal, where they can write at least something, but in their own group to read information about them. https://vk.com/rnebarkashov
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              6 November 2017 23: 03
              I clicked on your link, what I see:

              The same swastika stylized as in the 90s, the same cute young man of Aryan appearance as with Hitler’s agitation as an avatar ...
              And now the question is - why does the RUSSIAN patriotic organization use the external style of the DEADLY ENEMIES of Russia and all Russian, who planned the physical destruction of the Russian people and state? Why? Here answer me, dark and dull?
              Why can't we use, say, a red star? Well, let's say we don’t like the “Trotskyist-cabalistic symbol”, so why don’t we take some Orthodox banner? Or, in general, an excellent symbol - George the Victorious! We all recognize, love, the patron saint of our army, given that the movement is largely near-war ...
              Why do I need to draw a blond Natsik on the leaflets ("the character is persistent, Nordic"), as on the Nazi posters of the early 30s, and not, say, a Russian hero or a Russian peasant?
              And all because the answer is simple - RNU - these are ordinary fascists who do not know their history and betray their ancestors, worshiping those who wanted to destroy the Russians and erase all their memory ...
              It is shameful, shameful that among us - Russians - those who have suffered the most from fascism, there are people who pray for this very fascism and do not hesitate to wear its symbols openly ...
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                7 November 2017 00: 52
                You only looked at the pictures on this page, but you didn’t read the document of the Ministry of Justice about the movement, its activity and symbolism, if you read it, maybe you knew whether it was related to fascism or not. The same symbol was on the shoulder straps of the Altai army of the Republic of Ingushetia, banknotes-kerenki and sleeve stripes of the Red Army of the sample of 1918, are they also considered fascist signs?
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                  7 November 2017 22: 44
                  Quote: vasilev
                  You looked only at the pictures on this page, but did not read the document of the Ministry of Justice about the movement, its activity and symbolism

                  I read - with us, unfortunately, the legislation written by American liberals interprets fascist symbols very narrowly - only black oblique swastika (as an option in a white circle on a red banner) and the SS emblem fall under it. That, in fact, is all that is legally considered to be Nazism. But this does not negate the Nazi meaning of some "stylized" characters.
                  Moreover, on the Kerenka, in the red army in the initial period there was such a swastika:
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                  or
                  https://www.google.ru/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2F
                  infoglaz.ru%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F1545719_5964
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                  s%3A%2F%2Fmasterok.livejournal.com%2F1581424.html
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                  M%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjj-52dm63XAhXlCpoKHcoKAn4QMw
                  iOASgtMC0..i & w = 778 & h = 741 & bih = 929 &
                  biw=1910&q=%D1%81%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%
                  B8%D0%BA%D0%B0&ved=0ahUKEwjj-52dm63XAhXlCpoKH
                  coKAn4QMwiOASgtMC0 & iact = mrc & uact = 8
                  and it is far from identical to Hitler’s “oblique cross”, which the Barkashovites combined with the Star of Bethlehem and painted red ...
                  Yes, if you admit that all of this is “a primordially Slavic Kolovrat” (although it didn’t have any relation to the Slavs, it’s a symbol of the Indo-Iranian peoples), then what does zig mean? Or will you argue that this is "also purely Slavic, and so the Cossacks greeted each other"?
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                    7 November 2017 23: 40
                    And a little after: a swastika in any form is NOT a primordial Russian or Slavic symbol, no matter what pseudo-historical nonsense our homegrown Natsiks would make. The swastika is typical for the peoples of Russia, but not for the Slavs, but for Asians who profess or once professed different forms of Buddhism - they all took it from India and about a very long time ago. Among the Slavs, in their embroideries the swastika is used only as an element of ornament. and not as a separate symbol endowed with a sacred meaning. And the Slavs picked up a pattern of swastikas from Iran (at that time, the then Iranians already had some active trade at the time of the 10th century AD), as well as from some of the closer peoples to which Buddhism crawled.
                    Once again, the swastika, like the five-pointed star, became popular at the end of the 19th - beginning of the 20th century, when there was a fashion for all sorts of "mystical" teachings and the corresponding "mystical" symbols. That is, this symbol is not originally Russian, like the red five-pointed star, only the star was a symbol of our fighters who fought against Nazism - it had a new sacred meaning, reinforced by concrete deeds and events. But the swastika, and it was precisely the slanting and the right-handed one, was a symbol of Russia's worst enemies, who wanted to completely destroy it ...

                    Moreover, the swastika has nothing to do with Orthodoxy - it is not clear why the swastika symbol is used by an organization that positions itself as Orthodox.

                    The swastika on the nibs - the money of the interim government, which forced the Orthodox tsar to abdicate, and at the same time was ready to dance to the tune of Western capitalists. A logical question also arises - why does an organization that positions itself as a monarchist use the emblems of those who destroyed this very monarchy?

                    Well, this does not remove other issues, as I wrote above - the ridge is the same, the same Aryan type of "blond beast" in SD-shny shirts on agitation, etc. ...
  14. +7
    4 November 2017 22: 53
    American firms helped Hitler wage war, and banks had common capital with German banks. Yulian Semenov, a Soviet writer and journalist, for example, wrote after studying archival documents that even gold mined in concentration camps by German fascists (mainly gold crowns, etc.) settled after the war in the same banks on Wall Street. Why be surprised when the descendants of these villains refuse to admit the guilt of their fathers and grandfathers, and, moreover, once again raise the banner of the crushed Nazi divisions in the Baltic states and Poland, not to mention their own country, where racism, blackism, and madness are flourishing, covered by the struggle for "democracy"?
    Lend Lisa, someone say? But Land Liz was paid for with gold, which the USSR gave to the Americans for every button, for every tire, for every gram of the notorious stew, nicknamed the "second front" in the Red Army as a mockery of the "partners" in the anti-Hitler coalition. And at the end of the Great Patriotic War, the USSR returned part of the vehicles and weapons transferred to it, which the Americans simply destroyed, but did not leave the dilapidated war of Soviet Russia.
    In my opinion, it is necessary to raise the issue globally and withdraw the UN governing bodies from the USA, which have become a semi-fascist state. While semi-fascist, but "evolution" is evident, then it will only get worse.
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      5 November 2017 15: 45
      Thanks to America for the Land Liz! This help has saved millions of lives.
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        5 November 2017 16: 57
        Quote: Alex Justice
        Thanks to America for the Land Liz! This help has saved millions of lives.

        Ugum, they saved, of course, only 90% of Lend-Lease came in those years (44-45) when the fate of Germany was already a foregone conclusion, and our victory was derogatory. But in the 41st - the beginning of the 42nd, when we needed American help as much as possible, and when she could really save millions of our soldiers - then shish - they delivered a nose with gulkin and outdated equipment ...
        And then, after the war, when we lived half-starving in a dilapidated country and worked 25 hours a day to restore everything from ruins - this sweet America, apparently out of pity for "millions of lives", demanded that we compensate for all the help that we received from her. As a result, we were forced to produce hundreds of thousands of cars and other products and transfer them to the United States, where all this was immediately sent for re-melting ...

        And so yes - thanks a lot to America for Lend-Lease ....
  15. +1
    5 November 2017 00: 02
    Quote: staviator
    Quote: Tatar 174
    For our part, it is necessary in every possible way to heroize the North American heroes who fought for people's freedom, such as: Winnetu, Chingachguk, Osceola, the Sharp Falcon and others, of which there were many.

    Yeah, and canonize Goiko Mitic laughing

    Offset hi
  16. +1
    5 November 2017 01: 33
    In the United States, its peculiar American Nazism of exceptionalism flourishes ...
  17. +2
    5 November 2017 05: 22
    Well, it would have been the founding fathers of fascism, the owners of the Fed voted for this resolution.
  18. +2
    5 November 2017 06: 19
    From year to year, only the United States, Ukraine and Canada vote against this resolution.

    Do you still need to prove to someone that the USA is a fascist state?
    It is still necessary to call up the tongue, what is the Nazi regime in Ukraine?
    Is it necessary to remind again that Canada is the USA’s limitrophy and does not belong to G7?

    The United States spat on the UN for a long time and thoroughly.

    Let us recall about 50 resolutions on the blockade of Cuba. Against only the USA - and do not even itch.
    1. +2
      5 November 2017 09: 23
      Quote: Gormengast
      From year to year, only the United States, Ukraine and Canada vote against this resolution.

      Canada abstained in 2016. Palau was against it.
  19. +1
    5 November 2017 06: 25
    Ours finally began to move, they were at least ten years late, but even so, it would be a good idea to push these.
  20. +1
    5 November 2017 07: 34
    Russia disappointed by US unwillingness to support Russian resolution on combating the glorification of Nazism

    Who will condemn his "little child"? belay
    They fed him, fostered and sheared dividends for more than 70 years.
    As the saying goes: do not chop chicken laying golden eggs. What are they doing.
  21. +1
    5 November 2017 09: 23
    I have always been struck by these intrigues in Europe. Our position is also strange. On the one hand, we have a partner in Europe and we need to listen to his opinion, and on the other hand, the Nazis boldly walk across the EU. They erect monuments to the SS divisions, celebrate as heroes, and ours try something to prove to the Americans.
  22. +1
    5 November 2017 10: 37
    How will they be against fascism if they themselves financed Hitler.
  23. +1
    5 November 2017 11: 37
    If before the end and after the War they sheltered thousands of SS men, Bandera, then how will they oppose them?
  24. +9
    5 November 2017 15: 26
    In 2016, only Ukraine and the United States voted against the resolution, Russian diplomats recalled.


    And this year nothing will change.
  25. 0
    5 November 2017 18: 38
    especially since stubborn attempts to explain this position with concern for freedom of expression

    Don't Fool America! It is clear that, so that your representatives at the UN do not blurt out, PEACE will respond to you with complete tolerance. Russia ended the Chechen war only because of its tolerance for fascism towards Russians from the enemies of our country, which the United States supported.
  26. +9
    5 November 2017 21: 22
    Dashout
    Quote: Dashout
    Well, what to talk with a person with such a nickname ... Jack is Jack .. You better change your head to striped. Jack striped - that’s the definition!

    Broke, break the bucket (s) laughing
    Jack are dogs. The one in the picture, huh ... and it is never striped, as you can easily see.
    Golovan was Shchekn, in fact (and someone here has never read the Strugatsky ... phe negative )
    You should (IMHO) change the nickname for Jamshut - you are in full compliance.