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Turkey is ready to create its own helicopter

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Turkish designers have gained enough experience to create a domestic attack helicopter. According to the portal janes.com, the company Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) announced the start of work on the creation of a combat vehicle called ATAK 2.


To date, TAI is already producing attack helicopters T129 for the Turkish army (the car is a licensed copy of the AW129 Italian helicopter Mangusta, developed in 80-e).

Turkey is ready to create its own helicopter

Computer model of the helicopter ATAK 2.


TAI indicates that ATAK 2 will be bigger and heavier than T129. The weight of the helicopter will be 6 t, while it will have a high level of booking and can carry both artillery and rocket-bomb armament.


Computer model of the helicopter T625.

To reduce the cost of developing a new rotary-wing machine in the TAI plan to use the developments obtained in the design of the helicopter T625. This multi-purpose 10-ton machine with a capacity of up to 20 people will be made for the army in various versions. Despite differences in configurations and purpose, ATAK 2 and T625 helicopters will be developed in parallel, and their elements will be in many ways similar and even interchangeable, reports "Warspot"
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  1. Jedi
    Jedi 4 November 2017 11: 13 New
    13
    I looked at the first photo and thought: deja vu? Poured "mongoose" with an accuracy of several decimal places:

    Or will only external resemblance take place? request
    1. maxim947
      maxim947 4 November 2017 11: 15 New
      +1
      I wonder Whose engine?
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 4 November 2017 11: 17 New
        +7
        It’s hard to say, because this is just a project.
        1. san4es
          san4es 4 November 2017 11: 54 New
          +4
          Quote: Jedi
          ... so far, just a project.

          hi Hi Max .. Translate from Turkish?
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 4 November 2017 12: 04 New
            +7
            Sanya! Tell me, how can I make a drum from a "truck"? Our KA-50 with such difficulties was born! But then the military "on the ground" asked the pilots to stay on a business trip. It’s a pity I didn’t save an article from the Russian newspaper. They talked about Chechnya and the KA-50.
            1. san4es
              san4es 4 November 2017 12: 25 New
              +5
              Hi Slav hi
              Quote: sabakina
              ... how can one make a drum from a "truck" ?.

              ... Leave the engine with the gearbox, copy everything else wink
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 4 November 2017 12: 27 New
                +5
                Got it. I went from the official focus to put the motor on a personal Zaporozhets!
                1. maxim947
                  maxim947 4 November 2017 13: 34 New
                  +1
                  They plan to produce this pepelats in a joint venture with the Sikorsky company, respectively, many components and components will be produced under license, but with the wording produced in Turkey, that’s all. "independence"
                  1. san4es
                    san4es 4 November 2017 15: 43 New
                    +4
                    Quote: maxim947
                    This pepelats plan to produce in conjunction with Sikorsky

                    ... I thought so ... Looks like CH-53, Sea Stallion

                    1. not main
                      not main 4 November 2017 20: 39 New
                      +2
                      Quote: san4es
                      Quote: maxim947
                      This pepelats plan to produce in conjunction with Sikorsky

                      ... I thought so ... Looks like CH-53, Sea Stallion


                      Well, where did you see the resemblance? Nothing in common except single-rotor circuitry!
                      1. san4es
                        san4es 4 November 2017 21: 35 New
                        +2
                        Quote: non-primary
                        Well, where did you see the resemblance? !

                        ... purely external forms (in profile)
                    2. Mimoprohodil
                      Mimoprohodil 5 November 2017 11: 04 New
                      +1
                      Then S-92
                  2. antivirus
                    antivirus 4 November 2017 19: 03 New
                    0
                    how far we have gone in 70 years from most countries in the world.
                    It turns out that it is necessary to catch up with the United States and 2-3 others, and not Turkey and India (by GDP, not the aviation industry).
                    Who will be responsible for “running on the spot” for 10-15 years?
          2. Jedi
            Jedi 4 November 2017 12: 29 New
            +5
            Hi Sasha! hi I am not strong in the Turkish dialect ...
      2. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 4 November 2017 23: 58 New
        +3
        Quote: maxim947
        I wonder Whose engine?

        Can Ukrainians subsidized ??? if finally this helicopter will be !!! wassat lol lol lol
    2. xetai9977
      xetai9977 4 November 2017 11: 15 New
      +5
      The Turkish defense industry has taken a huge step over the past 10 years. From ships and aircraft to riflemen and missiles. Well done!
      1. Barshchik-M
        Barshchik-M 4 November 2017 11: 20 New
        14
        Quote: xetai9977
        The Turkish defense industry has taken a huge step over the past 10 years. From ships and aircraft to riflemen and missiles. Well done!

        Like Azerbaijan ..! Praise each other? Israel praises you too .. But the Russians are working! soldier
        1. xetai9977
          xetai9977 4 November 2017 11: 22 New
          10
          And what, "gracious," means there is something to praise. Don’t worry about us. And go work too, and not sit on the couch. You are our worker.
          1. antivirus
            antivirus 4 November 2017 19: 04 New
            0
            I’m sitting on a bench, from the butt of the oak, like Ilya the Murom’s, I'm sitting.
      2. mgero
        mgero 4 November 2017 11: 22 New
        +5
        Azerbaijan has also made one big breakthrough (in agriculture) in recent years, well done
        1. xetai9977
          xetai9977 4 November 2017 11: 23 New
          +6
          "Azerbaijan has also made one big breakthrough (in agriculture) in recent years, well done"
          Is it bad? Great! Currency in the country, jobs. tongue By the way, I didn’t create one, but did it.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 4 November 2017 12: 10 New
            10
            Is melon sweeter? belay
            1. evil partisan
              evil partisan 4 November 2017 13: 53 New
              +5
              Quote: sabakina
              Is melon sweeter?

              no More expensive... sad
            2. Barshchik-M
              Barshchik-M 4 November 2017 14: 44 New
              +6
              Quote: sabakina
              Is melon sweeter? belay

              And cloves are brighter. in the bazaars.? wink
              And the Turks began to see the turntables during the military coup ...
              If not for our special services, Khan Erdogan would have come ..
              Buy our turntables And you will be happy!
              Reliable security .. And the guys are risky! \
              You will not regret ..
          2. Barshchik-M
            Barshchik-M 4 November 2017 14: 58 New
            +4
            Quote: xetai9977
            "Azerbaijan has also made one big breakthrough (in agriculture) in recent years, well done"
            Is it bad? Great! Currency in the country, jobs. tongue By the way, I didn’t create one, but did it.

            Well, let it be so .. And when are you going to return Karabakh? It’s just interesting to us all ...
            Can concede nevertheless ..? Why do you need these mountainous areas ...
            1. antivirus
              antivirus 4 November 2017 19: 08 New
              0
              at the beginning of 00, he was traveling with an Azerbaijani in a train, from the capital of our Motherland, Hero of Moscow City: "They sold Karabakh and did not have the strength to buy it back."
              the hardest thing is to get money back
              and stones watered with blood are more expensive than gold.
          3. FLOOD
            FLOOD 8 November 2017 16: 22 New
            0
            Whatever flag they sit under, they still scorch themselves. ARRR Rifmetika also they Made laughing therefore, our jerks believe)))
      3. Pirogov
        Pirogov 4 November 2017 12: 43 New
        +3
        Quote: xetai9977
        The Turkish defense industry has taken a huge step over the past 10 years. From ships and aircraft to riflemen and missiles. Well done!

        A huge step in the riveting of rifles, which are enough for a hundred shots, or the assembly with the euro of American components, various military equipment? Is it possible to hear more about Turkish PEREMOGO in the military-industrial complex? What I can agree with you that the first step has been taken and indeed in Turkey have begun to pay great attention to this issue.
      4. DMB_95
        DMB_95 4 November 2017 13: 23 New
        +3
        Quote: xetai9977
        The Turkish defense industry has taken a huge step over the past 10 years. Well done!

        "Great Ottoman Empire" with a long history, it is time to finally learn how to create by the at least something decent. Well, even if they take an Italian pinwheel for the sample, since they themselves are "Well done!" ...
    3. pvv113
      pvv113 4 November 2017 11: 21 New
      +1
      The crew will be Turkish wink And the rest of the details are one to one
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 4 November 2017 11: 25 New
        +6
        No, Volodya - the “Mongoose” has a maximum take-off weight of 4,1 tons. And this one has 1,5 times more. Maybe the Turks based on the fuselage "Mongoose" will develop their own, enlarged?
        1. pvv113
          pvv113 4 November 2017 11: 39 New
          +2
          Increased take-off weight may require a more powerful power plant - and these are the engines and main gearbox. That is, again, the Turks will have to import it.
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 4 November 2017 12: 27 New
            +6
            Here I am about the same. So the "Turkish" this helicopter will be nominally.
            1. pvv113
              pvv113 4 November 2017 12: 32 New
              +3
              Well, on the other hand, let them try. As Comrade Beria used to say: attempt is not torture lol
              1. Jedi
                Jedi 4 November 2017 12: 36 New
                +4
                As I wrote below: Allah will help them. yes
    4. 210ox
      210ox 4 November 2017 11: 28 New
      +1
      The Turks copyright to the Chinese typed ..
      Quote: Jedi
      I looked at the first photo and thought: deja vu? Poured "mongoose" with an accuracy of several decimal places:

      Or will only external resemblance take place? request
      1. hohol95
        hohol95 4 November 2017 11: 48 New
        0
        To date, TAI is already producing attack helicopters T129 for the Turkish army (the car is a licensed copy of the AW129 Italian helicopter Mangusta, developed in 80-e).
    5. self-propelled
      self-propelled 4 November 2017 11: 38 New
      +7
      Quote: Jedi
      TAI says the ATAK 2 will be bigger and heavier than the T129. The mass of the helicopter will be 6 t, With he will have a high level of reservation and will be able to carry both artillery and missile-bomb weapons.

      tell me to an ignorant how, with a mass of 6 tons, you can have a high level of reservation (not even security) and carry a cueva cloud of various weapons ?! request
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 4 November 2017 11: 49 New
        +5
        Quote: self-propelled
        tell me to an ignorant how, with a mass of 6 tons, you can have a high level of reservation (not even security) and carry a cueva cloud of various weapons ?!

        Yes easy ... just will not fly laughing
      2. pvv113
        pvv113 4 November 2017 12: 28 New
        +2
        An example is the Mi-24. It has a high level of armor, various weapons options and a maximum take-off weight of about 11,5 tons. But he has two engines with a capacity of 2500 horses each
    6. hohol95
      hohol95 4 November 2017 11: 48 New
      0
      Have you carefully read the article?
      To date, TAI is already producing attack helicopters T129 for the Turkish army (the car is a licensed copy of the AW129 Italian helicopter Mangusta, developed in 80-e).
    7. venik
      venik 4 November 2017 14: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: Jedi
      I looked at the first photo and thought: deja vu? Poured "mongoose" with an accuracy of several decimal places:

      =========
      So she is, dear! It’s just that in the caption to the picture - “one-piece” - not ATAK-2, but T-129! And this same ATAK - will be based on the T625 (second photo).
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 4 November 2017 14: 08 New
        +4
        If so, then it is clear. And then I already thought that the enlarged fuselage of the Mongoose would be taken as the basis.
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 5 November 2017 01: 03 New
          +1
          Mongoose looks like a Mi-24.
          It seems that the Turks in the military-industrial complex invite foreigners or pay for the development, and then they introduce it at home. It hurts to develop rapidly: tank, armored personnel carrier, turntable, optics, air defense desire. And it looks like NATO no longer really rely on. Let's see how they go on F-35. hi
    8. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 5 November 2017 10: 58 New
      0
      So this Mongoose is ... aborted.
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  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 4 November 2017 11: 23 New
    +2
    Yes, some garbage. Manufacturing under license, this is not at all the creation of a design school, test benches, and much more ...
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 4 November 2017 11: 27 New
      +7
      No bullshit. Russia also began with the assembly of French vehicles and in the tank. and in the aviation fields.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 4 November 2017 12: 14 New
        +7
        Do not confuse a finger with the sky. Then aircraft construction and tank building only began. We managed to buy Christie, on the basis of which we developed our school. Just like in aircraft manufacturing. Learn student.
      2. venik
        venik 4 November 2017 14: 06 New
        +2
        Quote: xetai9977
        Russia also began with the assembly of French vehicles and in the tank. and in the aviation fields.

        ========
        Well yes! Especially in aviation .... "Russian Knight", "Ilya Muromets" .... Well, TYPICAL FRENCH cars !!! ........
        1. xetai9977
          xetai9977 4 November 2017 14: 38 New
          +3
          Russian Knight, Ilya Muromets.
          Well yes! "Newpory", "Farmany" - primordially Russian cars laughing laughing . By the way, the creator of "Ilya Muromets" Sikorsky for some reason preferred to work abroad, rather than pull the strap on his homeland. Apparently he escaped from a good life.
          1. Barshchik-M
            Barshchik-M 4 November 2017 15: 19 New
            +7
            Quote: xetai9977
            Russian Knight, Ilya Muromets.
            Well yes! "Newpory", "Farmany" - primordially Russian cars laughing laughing . By the way, the creator of "Ilya Muromets" Sikorsky for some reason preferred to work abroad, rather than pull the strap on his homeland. Apparently he escaped from a good life.

            Well then repeat all this? There is oil .. and the same money ... heh heh
            Not every nation is given this weapon to create, but also the ability to fight! soldier
            Azerbaijan would have been silent for a long time and would not have disgraced heh heh .. (I do not want to offend ..)))
          2. Skifotavr
            Skifotavr 7 November 2017 10: 03 New
            +1
            Quote: xetai9977
            By the way, the creator of "Ilya Muromets" Sikorsky for some reason preferred to work abroad, rather than pull the strap on his homeland. Apparently he escaped from a good life.

            Yeah, he blasphemed - he should have been better off running to wonderful Azerbaijan and helping Aborigines copulate with donkeys there. yes
      3. avt
        avt 4 November 2017 15: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: xetai9977
        Russia also began with the assembly of French vehicles and in the tank. and in the aviation fields.

        Well, something like that
        Quote: sabakina
        Do not confuse a finger with the sky.
        They did not create either tank building or aviation SCHOOLS. And without them it’s impossible to create your own model really. For the time being, the Turks are replicating the stranger under their own brand. It’s not even a “lego” of components. Assembling customized parts supplied.
    2. Jedi
      Jedi 4 November 2017 11: 28 New
      +6
      They want to do - let them do it, Allah will help them. Maybe the Turks will have a better helicopter than the Indians’s tank. wink
  4. Mamka pula
    Mamka pula 4 November 2017 11: 26 New
    15
    Turkey is ready to create its own helicopter

    Wow!
    Just ripe?
    Well, power
  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic 4 November 2017 12: 05 New
    +2
    So, over time, the Turks will also become competitors to us, they should not be underestimated, they will create a spinner in cooperation with someone to start, and then they will! By the way, they can be helped greatly by ukrointsy-engines for starters.
    1. venik
      venik 4 November 2017 14: 09 New
      0
      Quote: Herkulesich
      By the way, they can be helped greatly by ukrointsy-engines for starters.

      ==========
      Well, what else ???? Found the Air Force ("Great Helicopter Country" !!).
  6. marshes
    marshes 4 November 2017 12: 10 New
    0
    Well, now at prices, if it will be cheaper than the Mi-35 they will take it.
    For the “budget” armies, the most is that. An expensive attack helicopter, Ansat-2 could occupy this niche, for military conflicts with low intensity, counter-guerrilla warfare.
    1. venik
      venik 4 November 2017 14: 16 New
      0
      Quote: marshes
      Not an expensive attack helicopter, Ansat-2 could occupy this niche for counter-guerrilla warfare with low intensity.

      =========
      Can not! At least in the foreseeable future !! For one banal reason: There are Pratt & Whitney РW-207K engines (2 for 460 kW) !!! In Russia, such a "size" is not produced !! And to develop from "0" ...... Yes and to produce WHERE ?? "Klimovskie" capacity loaded "to the eyeballs" VK-2500 ....
      1. marshes
        marshes 4 November 2017 14: 24 New
        0
        Quote: venik
        Can not! At least in the foreseeable future !! For one banal reason: There are Pratt & Whitney РW-207K engines (2 for 460 kW) !!! In Russia, such a "size" is not produced !! And to develop from "0" ...... Yes and to produce WHERE ?? "Klimovskie" capacity loaded "to the eyeballs" VK-2500 ....

        That's a shame.
        By the way, the EU-145,645 is being assembled in Astana. In the United States, this is a replacement for Kayova, a light reconnaissance and attack helicopter, the UH-72 Lakota. Nearly 50 are already there.
        And so there is interest in light attack helicopters.
        I saw the work of Kayova, doc. Film, in Afghanistan, that's something. But the flight hour is cheaper than the Mi-8/17, in the Terminator version.
  7. Going
    Going 4 November 2017 12: 32 New
    10
    To date, TAI is already producing attack helicopters T129 for the Turkish army (the car is a licensed copy of the AW129 Italian helicopter Mangusta, developed in 80-e).


    Many start with licensed production and begin to do their projects.
  8. Monarchist
    Monarchist 4 November 2017 13: 49 New
    +1
    Quote: sabakina
    Got it. I went from the official focus to put the motor on a personal Zaporozhets!

    But seriously, men put engines from the refrigerator to the "humpbacked" one. In my homeland there is one man, from a broken ZIL130 motor pinned to ZIM, inside he pranked and spat on all “Muscovites” and “fungi” (early seventies)
  9. ukoft
    ukoft 4 November 2017 13: 55 New
    0
    their tanks, their helicopters now. maybe not all the components do at home. So all the components at home are only Russia and China are trying to do. the rest are looking for where better.
    This of course has its drawbacks, such as diesel engines for MTU tanks.
    but there are pluses. they choose from the best. they are not going to fight against the whole world, a regional power, so why not take the best?
    it seems like they wanted to cut their own plane, but they will not be pulled. it’s not such a big country and economy. something like flu can no longer be combined.
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  11. not main
    not main 4 November 2017 21: 59 New
    0
    san4es,
    Quote: san4es
    Quote: non-primary
    Well, where did you see the resemblance? !

    ... purely external forms (in profile)

    Even externally, the layout of the cab, the location of the engines, which means the entire transmission! Once again, nothing in common, except for a single-screw circuit!
  12. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 5 November 2017 11: 02 New
    0
    The most difficult thing in a helicopter is transmission and engines. This is a separate production from the assembly of the helicopter and there are not so many players in this market - Americans, Europe, the Russian Federation (Ukraine - engines), China ... Nobody will transfer the license for this. And the most interesting thing is that they do not overlap in terms of capacity and productivity ... Accordingly, the choice of supplier depends on the size of the helicopter.
  13. gridasov
    gridasov 5 November 2017 12: 05 New
    +1
    Such news should force the country's leaders to search even more diligently for people and developers of innovative projects. which will allow a country like Russia to be one step ahead of everyone. Otherwise, it will be difficult to defend their identity in the global confrontation between countries and politicians and culture and everything, everything that sets us apart as Slavs.
  14. FLOOD
    FLOOD 8 November 2017 16: 31 New
    0
    Quote: Skifotavr
    Quote: xetai9977
    By the way, the creator of "Ilya Muromets" Sikorsky for some reason preferred to work abroad, rather than pull the strap on his homeland. Apparently he escaped from a good life.

    Yeah, he blasphemed - he should have been better off running to wonderful Azerbaijan and helping Aborigines copulate with donkeys there. yes

    not an option .. if he helped the local natives here copulate with donkeys, then all sorts of Skifotavs would be born, and then their herbs, shoot, etc.