India has the highest mountain road in the world

In India, the world's highest mountain road, 86 km long, was built Lenta.ru report message NDTV channel.

According to the Indian television channel, the new highway “connects the towns of Chisumle and Demchok in the region of Ladakh in the state of Jammu and Kashmir in the north of the country”.

It is reported that the highest point of the road is located at a height of 5883 meters (19 300 feet).

The route is located on the border with China and is of strategic importance. Indian camp is located in Demchok.

As the channel noted, “construction proceeded under the harsh conditions of rarefied air at low temperatures.”

India is actively building motorways and railways in Ladakh, which, if necessary, will allow for the prompt transfer of troops and equipment to the mountainous region. In New Delhi, they also said that they intend to build the Bilaspur-Manali-Leh railway line in the coming years, which will link remote areas of the mountainous states of Himachal Pradesh and Jammu and Kashmir, including the Ladakh region, with the rest of India.

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[xetai9977]

Compete for the Chinese?

[Shura Perm]

there are a lot of uranium in the mountains, and here they are developing the infrastructure ...

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Shura Perm

India has the highest mountain road in the world

Md For this donkey, to transport donkey uranium ore as a sieve to carry water.
Yes, and bomb it on the full and another year will be restored.
1. Better a bad world than a good quarrel. US Indians are ready to pay the war with China.
2. China is the hegemon of the 21st century and it is time to understand that the USA is superfluous in Eurasia. You need to negotiate, it doesn’t work out, so this is for GDP.

[shans2]

China will never be a hegemon), even if it suddenly does not become Russia)

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: shans2

China will never be a hegemon), even if it suddenly does not become Russia)

For one assumption that Russia may not become your need ... Or maybe ... it's not that. It is necessary to watch a film about kanibals, they must prompt.

[Barshchik-M]

Quote: xetai9977

Compete for the Chinese?

Aha ..)))) Who has a higher block post! There they are already sitting in oxygen masks ...
You Hetai, too, are fighting with Armenia for the death of rocky Karabakh ... They would have calmed down already, because it’s funny and sad .. Russia won’t give away what territories with all the plants and factories and weapons (except nuclear weapons)! Tipo live and remember Russian with a kind word ..

[Vita vko]

As always, if it were not for the military, no one would have scratched themselves at the fact that people live there and they need roads.

[Logall]

Military, these residents do not care! They pursue their goals ...
Just coincided

[Orionvit]

Quote: Vita VKO

people live there and they need roads

I don’t know what kind of people live at an altitude of more than 5500m. The upper limit of residence is 4000m., In the Andes and Tibet. Further, these are really military and climbers. Both with oxygen masks.

[assa67]

narrow for a strategic road or while launched, and then expanded

[Professor]

It is reported that the highest point of the road is located at a height of 5883 meters (19 300 feet).

And what will they breathe at this height? There you need an oxygen mask. My record is 5420 meters and it was not at all easy.

[Logall]

Quote: professor

My record is 5420 meters and it was not at all easy.

And mine is one and a half liters The next morning I nearly died! I mean, it was also not easy ...

[Professor]

Quote: Logall

And mine is one and a half liters. The next morning I almost died! I mean, it was also not easy ...

They die from mountain sickness. Alcohol only exacerbates.

Quote: Humpty

It depends on what height the driver is used to. If you live on 4000, then nothing will happen. A resident of the plains at this altitude may "drive off".

Almost no one lives on 4000. Living on 3500 m is already a rarity. Nominally the highest mountain village in Peru at an altitude of 5100. There are a dozen more villages in China and India at an altitude above 4000 meters, but people there only in season. Mostly served by tourists. For the winter they descend from the mountains. The highest mountain city of La Oroya in Peru at an altitude of 3700 m.

Quote: Humpty

Where? Just curious .

Trong La Paz in the Himalayas in Nepal.

Quote: Scoun

So this is the highest point of the road and staying at such a height will be short-lived, probably not critical.

Critically. At such a height (the engine also needs oxygen) without pills, a person will have kirdyk if your sherpas will not work as drivers.

Quote: Scoun

Problem for hypertensive people at another 2000 meters will begin.

For an average healthy person, problems will begin at an altitude of 1500 m. It is not for nothing that the Soviet army added privileges to officers just above this mark. A year and a half, 45 days of vacation, free travel to my wife anywhere in the USSR, etc.

PS
On a bicycle I climbed from Kinneret (minus 220 meters) to Hermon (2200 meters). The climb is difficult, but the descent is fast.

[Logall]

Quote: professor

For an average healthy person, problems will begin at an altitude of 1500 m.

Just don’t have to tryndet! Mark 2200m Rosa Khutor!
And we lived there ...
Fizionomiya, If you do not understand, mine!

[Professor]

Quote: Logall

Just do not train the children! Mark 2200m Rosa Khutor

Quote: Logall

And we lived there ...

Well? In Peru they live and higher. Symptoms of mountain sickness among relatives visiting guests were observed?
https://health.mail.ru/disease/gornaya_bolezn/

I lived at an altitude of 1500 meters for more than ten years, and went for mushrooms to forests at an altitude of more than 2000 meters. But this does not mean at all that one of my neighbors could easily climb to a height of more than 4000 meters. There are climbing rules and they are written in blood.

[Logall]

Professor, I do not live there! I went there on a shift ... There were no health problems ... True, I lost weight! Here I am at the beginning of the shift 2 months younger And 20 kg heavier ...

[Professor]

Quote: Logall

Professor, I do not live there! I went there on a shift ... There were no health problems ... True, I lost weight! Here I am at the beginning of the shift

I can also show a photo where I am above 5000 meters or even photos of people on Everest without oxygen masks, but this does not change anything. Height is a dangerous thing and requires special preparation for its subjugation. The very same Chinese have oxygen masks on the train to Tibet. What for?

Quote: Lgankhi

What nonsense are you talking about! Moreover, the nickname was chosen by the "professor".

Of course nonsense. What else? Learn materiel here
https://health.mail.ru/disease/gornaya_bolezn/
and tell us why there were privileges in the CA for those serving at a height above 1500, regardless of latitude.

[Lganhi]

Your link says that there may be symptoms of mountain sickness above 2000 m, but serious symptoms that affect your well-being begin from a height of 3000 m. What kind of 1500 m have you raved about?

[Lganhi]

What nonsense are you talking about! Moreover, the nickname was chosen by the "professor".

For an average healthy person, problems will begin at an altitude of 1500 m

Mexico City is located at an altitude of 2300 m, and people live normally in this city, in addition, it is one of the largest cities in the world with a population of about 20 million people. Especially if a person is familiar with physics, he knows that in warm air the vertical baric gradient is less than in cold air. That is, simply put, 5000 m in the tropics will be 4000 m in the Caucasus or 3000 m in Antarctica - in warm air, pressure decreases with height less than in cold air, since the density of warm air is less than the density of cold air. At the equator, for example, the tropopause is located at an altitude of 16-18 km, while in the polar regions in winter it falls down to 7-8 km. Therefore, it is foolish to compare 1500 m in the tropics and in the Arctic Urals. There, even at sea level, it is cold and the northern premiums are paid.

[Igor V]

Quote: Lgankhi

What nonsense are you talking about!
. Especially if a person is familiar with physics, he knows that in warm air the vertical baric gradient is less than in cold air. That is, simply put, 5000 m in the tropics will be 4000 m in the Caucasus or 3000 m in Antarctica - in warm air, pressure decreases with height less than in cold air, since the density of warm air is less than the density of cold air. At the equator, for example, the tropopause is located at an altitude of 16-18 km, while in the polar regions in winter it falls down to 7-8 km. Therefore, it is foolish to compare 1500 m in the tropics and in the Arctic Urals. There, even at sea level, it is cold and the northern premiums are paid.

Explain then: why in the Eastern Pamirs, with an average height of 4-4,5 thousand, the Arctic climate? With latitude, everything is in order there. Maybe there are some other factors affecting the climate and people? Humidity, for example.

[Lganhi]

There is the same climate as in Tibet. There are no differences.

[padded jacket]

Quote: Lgankhi

What nonsense are you talking about! Moreover, the nickname was chosen by the "professor".

What do you want from this "character"? An Israeli user under the nickname Professor has long been seen in the mildly inaccurate, but simply in outright inventions.
For example, this photo of him has nothing to do with Tibet and trains.

Quote: professor

The very same Chinese have oxygen masks on the train to Tibet. What for?

Link to the source of the photo:
Photo: beyond the imagination in the eyes of the Chinese media crazy college entrance exam
https://translate.google.ru/translate?hl=ru&s
l = zh-TW & u = http: //www.epochtimes.com/b5/17/5/4
/n9107427.htm&prev=search

Real photo caption:
The figure below shows that in Suinin Hospital, Sichuan, some students wore oxygen masks when studying chemistry.

[askme]

You do not confuse ordinary people and highlanders. Those who were born and raised at altitudes of 3500-4000 meters are adapted for the highlands. Tibetans are genetically adapted. For them to ride on such a road is normal. For others, death.

[Igor V]

"For an average healthy person, problems will begin at an altitude of 1500 m. It is not in vain that the Soviet army added privileges to officers just above this mark. A year and a half, 45 days of vacation, free travel for his wife anywhere in the USSR, etc."
And the personnel were given mountain rations - coffee, condensed milk, meat and butter in a good piece.
Professor, it is inconvenient to make a remark, but please, write the Soviet Army with a capital letter. She deserves it.

[Humpty]

Quote: professor

There you need an oxygen mask

It depends on what height the driver is used to. If you live on 4000, then nothing will happen. A resident of the plains at this altitude may "drive off".

Quote: professor

My record is 5420 meters and it was not at all easy.

Where? Just curious .

[Scoun]

Quote: professor

It is reported that the highest point of the road is located at a height of 5883 meters (19 300 feet).

And what will they breathe at this height? There you need an oxygen mask. My record is 5420 meters and it was not at all easy.

So this is the highest point of the road and staying at such a height will be short-lived, probably this is not so critical.
PS.
Problems for hypertensive patients will begin another 2000 meters.

[Stas157]

Quote: professor

My record is 5420 meters and it was not at all easy.

By plane?

[Logall]

Quote: Stas157

Quote: professor

My record is 5420 meters and it was not at all easy.

By plane?

After a good kick!

[dzvero]

There were publications on conflicts with Pakistan in Kashmir (now I can’t remember where ) They wrote that the troops underwent acclimatization, either three or six months, gradually pulling themselves up, and at a height the rotation was like two months later. Helicopter pilots were especially tight.
PS I wonder how the car will behave. I mean the usual civilian pepelats.

[Professor]

Quote: dzvero

Helicopter pilots were especially tight.

For them, there are pills that increase the number of red blood cells in the blood. In such an artificial way, they undergo acclimatization in half an hour, which without tablets has to be done in 10-20 days. I also had such pills in my medicine cabinet. Just in case.

Quote: dzvero

PS I wonder how the car will behave. I mean the usual civilian pepelats.

Loses power or stalls altogether. That's all. At an altitude of 5000 m, the amount of EMNIP oxygen is approximately half the amount of oxygen at sea level.

[Humpty]

Quote: professor

Loses power or stalls altogether. That's all. At an altitude of 5000 m, the amount of EMNIP oxygen is approximately half the amount of oxygen at sea level.

At 4800 ordinary cars do not fail. At high altitudes, eating pills, replacing acclimatization, can be harmful to health, in the sense at all. There are negative examples for this, in the sense - completely negative. Up to 2500, the body adapts completely. It happens that a school teacher has 10 days to rise from scratch for 7000. It happens that a marathon runner may not tolerate 3000, this is an individual matter. Be careful with pills in the future.

[Humpty]

Quote: dzvero

There were publications on conflicts with Pakistan in Kashmir (now I can’t remember where). They wrote that the troops were acclimatized, either three or six months

Such troops, which have been acclimatized for 3-6 months, even if they are in Siachen, are better at home, they smoke bamboo. This is either a mistake or a disgrace.

[dzvero]

As far as I recall, the base camp was at 4000 m. "Above" was a sort of combat duty. Of course, this was a limited area of ​​the tetra located over 5000 m. The remaining areas were much lower. Maybe I’m mistaken, but then they wrote that this is the highest altitude section of military operations in history. At such a height, acclimatization is necessary; because the soldiers there were not in a swoop, but really worked and fought.

[Humpty]

Quote: dzvero

Maybe I’m mistaken, but then they wrote that this is the highest altitude section of military operations in history.

Up to heights of 6400, they were cut on the Siachen Glacier (the largest in Asia). To the heights of 4000-4500
Good acclimatization comes in about a week. More or less acceptable - in 4 days. At heights of 4000 and above, millions of people live permanently in Asia and South. America. Closer to the equator, the heights are a little easier. Worst of all, they carry the “height” - helicopters. But without them in any way. It makes sense to remove filters from power generators. Gas for cooking is not everyone is suitable. The best lighters are BIC, they burn flawlessly even where.

[Lganhi]

I will add that at an altitude of 5000 m, where the air pressure is half the standard pressure, water boils at 80 degrees, at a height of 3000 m boils at 90 degrees. Therefore, by the way, in the Caucasian cuisine, kebabs and other fried dishes are so popular, not soups. At high altitude, not every meat is cooked, and if it is cooked, it will take a very long time to cook.

I think that at altitudes of 4000-5000 m, soups can only be cooked in autoclaves.

[Igor V]

They use a trick: the meat is first fried, then it is cooked. Nothing happens!

[pasechnik]

Everything is built for national security! This includes the population for those who are not understanding!

[Topotun]

That's just in China is very dissatisfied with the activity of India. A little before the conflict came to a kinship star-striped ...

[APASUS]

Saying that troops can be thrown along this road is simply stupid, this road will be destroyed first if anything. And it’s still not very clear what military equipment is used there, not every dry-landing vehicle will survive with such a discharge of air

[shans2]

modern means very easily destroy this road, the continuous overhang of thousands of tons of soil, several adjustable bombs and missiles and count for months the road is blocked in several places under the landslides. I recall the Soviet 9-ton bombs stacking gorges in Afghanistan

[Sverdlov]

Ahhhh ..... Kill me up !!!
"A road has been built in India." Which¿ "the highest mountain in the world"
With my triple in Russian for 1965, I just got a sieve from modern pacemakers ...

[Going]

India is actively building roads and railways in Ladakh, which, if necessary, will allow the rapid transfer of troops and equipment to the mountainous region.

No way they can not find a common language with China.

[Ugolek]

At 4000, almost no one lives. Living on 3500 m is already a rarity.

It is immediately clear that this is written by a person from the plain, as well as about the fact that at an altitude of 1500 a normal person will begin to have problems. In Almaty, they live on Chimbulak for years at altitudes of 2200-2500. At the cesspools at the weather station for 3100 years, at T1 higher at Tuyuksu for 3500 years. At the observatory above BAO for 2800 years, at the Space Station (by the way, this is a Russian object) for 3200 years. For Russians, the cap is already tearing up on the way to Chimb, and if he sleeps there, he will feel bad. More than once, Russians who were not adapted to the height of our country were dying from the miners at altitudes of 3000-3200. In Nepal, Peru, Tajikistan, Tibet live up to and including 5000 meters. About oxygen masks, the amount of air at an altitude of 1500 and 8848 is the same, but the ability to consume it by the body is different due to the difference in partial pressures. But the properties of the body in different people, and especially nationalities are completely different. An oxygen mask at an altitude of 5000 is nonsense. The high-tech mountaineering class (domestic) did not at all imply high-altitude ascents with oxygen, it was a feature of the bourgeoisie, because of this they perish in packs. Yes, we use oxygen, but in extremely rare cases. 4000 meters, but we have shepherds there they can spend half the summer, but you can’t live ..

[Professor]

Quote: Ugolek

It is immediately clear that this is written by a person from the plain, as well as about the fact that at a height in 1500 a normal person will begin to have problems.

I understand this to me? So now I have lived at a height above 1500 for more than 12 years. Materiel:

Altitude of onset of manifestation of mountain sickness in Kamchatka - 1000 — 1500 m
Gvozdetsky N.A., Golubchikov N. Yu. Mountains. M., Publishing House "Thought", 1987. - S. 71

People are present at altitudes of more than 3500 meters, but acclimatization is required to find them. Golden rule: no more than 500 m lift per day. Moreover, it is important not at what height you climbed during the day, but at what height you will sleep. They recommend staying a couple of days at 3500 altitude before rising higher.

People living above 5000 are very rare. The body is able to acclimatize, but the height already in 4000 meters is a desert where nothing grows. In the summer they bring in (they don’t even import) everything they need and they eat it all. Food, firewood, etc. is very expensive there because it’s not its own and there is not a single natural settlement in the world that exists throughout the whole importation. By the way, in the Himalayas and Tibet, the majority of the population of high-mountain villages leaves them for the winter and returns in the spring. Personally watched.

Is the amount of air at the height of 1500 and 8848 the same? What kind of nonsense? The density of air at an altitude of 5000 meters is half the density of air at sea level, and accordingly with each breath your lungs receive only half the oxygen. Therefore, you breathe so often at height and you have such a frequent heartbeat. The body begins to adapt by producing more red blood cells. Helicopter pilots take drugs artificially producing red blood cells. So for half an hour they carry out monthly acclimatization. There are practically no side effects. I always had these pills in my medicine cabinet just in case.

Is an oxygen mask at the height of 5000 nonsense? Open your eyes and look at the photo in the previous post.

Materiel:
https://www.risk.ru/blog/203449

[Lganhi]

Altitude of onset of manifestation of mountain sickness in Kamchatka - 1000 — 1500 m
Gvozdetsky N.A., Golubchikov N. Yu. Mountains. M., Publishing House "Thought", 1987. - S. 71

Ahhhhh !!!! Mountain sickness at 1000 meters !!!! For example, 1600 million people live in Denver, at an altitude of 2,7 m, and no one has mountain sickness. I already wrote about Mexico City. Canadian Calgary is located at an altitude of 1100 meters, it has 1,3 million people, it is the North, but still the people in Calgary are not particularly affected by mountain sickness and harsh climate. Actually, as the experience of cities shows, in the subtropics and tropics people feel comfortable up to a height of 3000 m, in the south of the temperate zone like the Caucasus, the Alps, the states of Colorado and Montana, 2000 m in the middle lane to a height of 1000 m - an example of Calgary, in Siberia, Chita is located at an altitude of 700 m.

[Professor]

Quote: Lgankhi

For example, in Denver, 1600 million people live in Denver at an altitude of 2,7 m, and no one is sick with mountain sickness.

Unlike you, I have been to Denver. I did not observe the symptoms of mountain sickness, but my mother-in-law was hooked. Her headache and nausea did not pass from my presence, since we were there at different times.

You do not understand the main thing. Climb one meter a day and there will be no mountain sickness on 3000 meters. And if you are not landed by helicopter at this altitude, taking you from the beach in Sochi, then you have all the chances of mountain sickness. And if you are dropped off at 5000 meters, then you will not live there even for a week. Pulmonary and cerebral edema and 200 load. So understandable?

PS
A colleague previously worked as an engineer in the kibbutz Sasa. In the very one that makes the famous composite protection for armored vehicles. Every day, she rose from the sea to a height of 850 m. So, at first she was constantly haunted by a headache because climbing to 850 m in 30 minutes was too much for her body, and not one of the local kibbutzniks complained of a headache.

[Lganhi]

You seem to me a hysterical woman, turned on Malysheva and other "Live Healthy." In fact, pressure up to 1000 m drops by 1 mmHg for every 10 meters of rise. For example, I constantly hear complaints of supposedly weather-sensitive people that the pressure drops in the weather affect them very much, for them supposedly a drop or increase in pressure by 3-4 mm per day is a lot. Yes yo-mine !!! If you live on the 9th floor, then when you take the elevator to the 9th floor, the air pressure drops by 3 mm in a couple of seconds !!! And if you live on the 20th floor, then the pressure drop generally reaches 6 mm !!!! And yet, in airplanes the pressure is at an altitude of 3000 m, and none of the passengers suffered from mountain sickness or died. You probably felt stuffy in your ears when lifting and lowering the plane? This congestion is caused by a pressure drop on board the aircraft, but no one dies from this drop of tens of mm in a few minutes. This is proven by billions of passengers carried. An example is the Burj Khalifa, where a viewing platform for tourists is located at an altitude of 555 m, and which is visited by millions of tourists a year. But even though it is cracking, not a single supposedly weather-sensitive person dies or even faints from the fact that in a few seconds the atmospheric pressure dropped by 555 mm when lifting the elevator to a height of 50 m! Although the same frame ached a couple of days before that a pressure drop of 3-4 mm per day is almost deadly for him . Here's how you explain it?

[Professor]

Quote: Lgankhi

You seem to me a hysterical woman, turned on Malysheva and other "Live Healthy."

Rude to your own kind, but I’ll ask you not to contact me anymore.

[Lganhi]

Well, that merged. Nothing to argue. The same reaction as women, whom I bring to white-hot with these facts about elevators and airplanes. They cannot argue with anything, but in response only "proud" contempt.

[Professor]

Quote: Lgankhi

Well, that merged. Nothing to argue. The same reaction as women, whom I bring to white-hot with these facts about elevators and airplanes. They cannot argue with anything, but in response only "proud" contempt.

I don’t feed boors. Eat elsewhere and do not contact me again. I won’t feed.

[Lganhi]

Mountain sickness from 1000 m . I haven’t laughed like that for a long time. I made and saved a screenshot specially .

[XXXIII]

Quote: Lgankhi

Mountain sickness

people perceive height differently .... the young neighbor was even afraid to get up on the elevator until he served in the army ...

[Fkjydjckfrgh]

Chisumle and Demchok. I would not be surprised to see such signs in Russia. Probably Indians - "Sidorov by Mother"

[Ugolek]

I understand this to me? So now I have lived at a height above 1500 for more than 12 years. Materiel:

This is not for you personally.
I went through the materiel with a backpack, and not on the couch. Of course, you don’t know about the alpine climbing style, once 500 meters a day are going to storm the classic routes, but the storm of one daylight hours is by no means unknown to you. People live at much higher elevations than 3500. In general, how do you go to a number of peaks, then we'll talk about oxygen. So for information, base camps start from 4000 to 5300, this is a hint ..