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What keeps us in the WTO?

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Taking on WTO commitments in 2012, we expected that we would quickly conquer the “energy heights”, attract billions of investments, and at the same time improve the quality and competitiveness of Russian goods and services, gaining the key to free trade, but wide gates to Western markets. did not open.




Russia began knocking on the doors of the International Trade Club back in the nineties; it took nineteen years to agree on documents. All this time, the question of joining the WTO has been the subject of serious discussion in Russian political and expert circles.

The most liberal economists headed by former finance minister Alexei Kudrin believed that accession to the WTO is a necessary condition for the development of competition and the economy as a whole. Moreover, he believed that joining this organization would in some measure be able to compensate for insufficient economic reforms, and the state would be able to appeal to WTO rules to protect their own economic interests.

Opponents of Russia's accession to the WTO noted the unpreparedness of the Russian economy to global competition, argued the need to protect its manufacturer. After all, Moscow was demanded to reset trading duties on meat. Foreigners were also not satisfied with the low prices for gas and electricity in Russia, assistance to agriculture, which they called the hidden form of subsidizing our producers, thanks to which they allegedly get an unfair advantage over their competitors.

Putting forward such demands, the WTO member countries wanted to get almost open access to our domestic market with practically no duties, to crush agricultural production, as well as the already uncompetitive industry.
After all, their manufacturers and the United States and the European Union protect from all sides and external duties, and subsidies, and purely prohibitive measures.

We managed to bargain for something when joining the WTO. Quotas were set for the supply of certain types of meat products, under which the duty is not charged, a limit of state support of up to nine billion dollars per year was agreed (with a gradual reduction to a billion of dollars to 4,4 a year to 2018). But in return, they had to agree to other enslaving conditions, the consequences of which were not long in coming.

Under the terms of the agreement with the WTO, Russia is still in a state of transition and is moving towards the fulfillment of all its obligations. But today we can say that membership in the WTO has made its own adjustments to the state of the domestic economy. And not with a positive sign, as government officials wanted, but vice versa.

The study of the St. Petersburg State University of Economics on Russia's membership in the WTO says that as a result of joining this organization, raw materials specialization has increased, we have closed access to the high-tech markets. Russian manufacturers began to easily absorb stronger foreign competitors; due to the alignment of domestic and world energy prices, domestic goods have risen in price; at unprecedented rates, capital is exported from the country through subsidiaries of large Western corporations that have settled here.

Even the accession to the WTO, and those unilateral concessions that our officials hurried to make long before the signing of the official protocol, did the greatest harm to the economy. Tell me, how can our agrarian compete with a Turkish producer of berries, if he is free to take credit for development under 2%, and ours - under 20 – 25% at best - under subsidized 6,5%? Moreover, very often exporters abroad are fully or partially exempted from taxes just because they save jobs and bring profits into the country. For some reason, this condition is not taken into account.

According to estimates of the WTO-Inform analytical center, over the years of membership in the WTO, the federal budget has lost 871 a billion rubles, and taking into account the multiplier effect - from 12 to 14 trillions of rubles.

The most affected machine building (production fell by 14%), light industry (by 9%), woodworking (by 5%). Agricultural machinery in two years was also almost completely ousted by American and European manufacturers. But most of all increased the volume of financial services, oil and gas production, coal industry.

Exports of untreated wood, raw forest increased. Tariffs for gas and electricity due to the “flattening of prices” increased by 2017 by 80% by the year, while the incomes of the population dropped by 2012– 10% compared to 12. And at the same time, our partners in the WTO say that Russian trade policy is detrimental to the European economy.

There was no need to wait for anything else. Especially today, in the midst of tightening anti-Russian sanctions. According to analysts, the restrictive measures applied to Russia are in direct contradiction with the principles of the WTO. And this suggests that the possibility of membership in this organization in the short term is unlikely to provide us with the expected economic preferences.

As soon as Russia tries to defend its rights and interests, it is not heard. It was necessary to point out the WTO to the restrictive measures imposed on our country’s sanctions, as a rebuff immediately followed. Or take the case of European pigs. Their supplies to Russia are limited due to outbreaks of African swine fever (ASF) in Poland and Lithuania. But in the WTO, our bans on suspicious pork were for some reason considered to be discriminatory and not epizootic in accordance with the requirements of the International Bureau.

Under the pressure of foreign partners, Russia, apparently, is ready to give up. In the summer of this year, the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade reported that most of the duties involved in a dispute with the European Union had already been lowered, and the rest would be dealt with shortly.

Having entered the WTO, Russia received a good lesson with palm oil, imported refrigerators, paper and pork, which flooded our markets.

What makes us bow or go to endless concessions? First of all, the conditions of trade that the state assumed when joining the WTO, and the inability of our legislation to protect the domestic market, while remaining within the rules of the International Trade Club.

An example of how a trade organization should have been prepared to join was China, which was able to quickly fit into the WTO system, and now claims the leading roles, driving the United States and its allies out of the market. This was possible, primarily because the PRC, unlike us, went to the International Trade Club, not playing giveaway, but creating a developed industry and agriculture. The Chinese have built more 600 powerful export industries, excelled in logistics and financial and credit system. And all this was done with the support of domestic producers.

Russia joined the WTO in a different capacity. We were taken to a trading club among developing and underdeveloped countries with a commodity-leaning economy.

For those 19 years that we were preparing for joining the WTO, it was possible to calculate and accept adequate taxation conditions, allowing competing on equal terms with world producers, developing a system of government orders and leasing, creating our own system of standards and norms, to which Western competitors would adapt . None of this was done.

At the same time, from the first days of Russia's membership in the WTO, our Western partners acted confidently, brazenly, and sometimes aggressively. For example, having conceived to close their domestic market from foreign aircraft, European countries introduced requirements for engine noise. As a result, our aircraft, which did not meet these requirements, first of all left the market. Thus, the formal requirements of the WTO were met, and the European market was shielded from competitors.

The WTO, like any other international organization, is subject to the influence of lobbying groups of the largest states and, therefore, only representatives of developed Western countries always benefit.

By the way, this feature “with surprise” was discovered by the Nobel Prize winner, former Senior Vice President of the World Bank, Joseph Shtiglits.

Today, Russia is involved in ten cases, each of which can cost up to two million dollars. So, the hopes that with the help of the WTO tools one can defend oneself from US sanctions have collapsed.

But is it worth it to despair? The sanctions that limit the penetration and actions on the Russian market of Western corporations, while playing in our favor. In recent years, agriculture has grown decently: store shelves are filled with domestic meat, grain harvests are post-Soviet records. Export of agricultural products is growing: we export our food abroad for 18 billions of dollars. Our tractors and combine harvesters appeared on our fields, displacing the German “John Dira” and “Ursus”. From our airfields, it is now increasingly not Boeings that take off, but domestic aircraft, the latest VAZ cars are returning to Europe.

Analysts say that the WTO is now in deep crisis. It is unhappy and developing countries, and the United States. The former are not satisfied that there has not yet been an acceptable solution in the framework of the so-called Doha Round negotiations on agricultural trade. And the United States can not accept the fact that the WTO imposes restrictions on them.

Not in favor of this organization is the fact that after the crisis, international trade slipped sharply. It is now growing two times slower than global GDP. Trade is constrained by various kinds of import restrictions related to anti-dumping investigations, political disputes or security issues, the number of which in 2017 increased fourfold compared to 2008 in the year. At the beginning of 2017 of the year in the G-20 countries there were 1200 of such restrictions. And with the coming to power in the USA of Donald Trump, the danger of the growth of protectionist measures only intensified.

Analysts have started talking that the Transatlantic and Trans-Pacific partnerships with the leading role of the United States may soon replace the WTO.

What keeps us in the WTO? Is it not time for us to reconsider the conditions of participation in the “trade club” and think: does Russia really need this organization?

Are we, a self-sufficient country, on 95% secured by natural resources and not losing scientific and technical potential, to remain in the trading club as a stepchild?

Russia participates in much more democratic and independent trade and political structures - from the Customs Union to the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and the emerging Eurasian economic space. Why choose the worst option of all?
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 5 November 2017 15: 25 New
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    What keeps us in the WTO?
    No no no. Flies separately. Not what, but who. not why, but why.
    1. Holds by the government.
    2. And so that in the next life (in Miami), there was something to reckon with before the gods.
    Taking on WTO commitments in 2012, we expected that we would quickly conquer the “energy heights”, attract billions of investments, and at the same time improve the quality and competitiveness of Russian goods and services, gaining the key to free trade, but wide gates to Western markets. did not open.
    OSLO is hanging and ..... are we?
    Let’s assign those GOATS to the ass, to start with donkeys? (and prospects will show)
    1. stas
      stas 5 November 2017 17: 38 New
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      Dear, and here is the LADY government, if the Tsar rules everything in Russia.
      So the question about carrots is to the King.
      The Tsar has his own idea of ​​a capitalist paradise with Putin's face.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 5 November 2017 18: 13 New
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        Quote: stas
        Dear, and here is the LADY government, if the Tsar rules everything in Russia.
        So the question about carrots is to the King.
        The Tsar has his own idea of ​​a capitalist paradise with Putin's face.

        Dear, brilliant of my heart, have you deigned to say KING? Well then . quietly, oooh, shove your nose into the government and blather that all of you are Crap, and it drives the only one approved and agreed by all.
        Well, I don’t want to take the steps with you (I think this is a personal matter, inconsistencies are possible)
        "Here I ask you to not touch!" (Ivan Vasilievich)
        Well, if you sign up for capitalist paradise on behalf of the KING .... the flag will not help you, staff, funny ..... there are evens, a chtol’s servant? Go ahead.
        1. stas
          stas 6 November 2017 11: 33 New
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          You are engaged in verbiage, you do not have to see conscience as our oligarchs and the capitalist elite.
          You to Chubais for a premium, you know how to lick.
      2. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb 6 November 2017 09: 40 New
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        When will we leave the WTO ???
      3. EvgNik
        EvgNik 6 November 2017 13: 21 New
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        Quote: stas
        if the Tsar rules everything in Russia.

        Does he steer? But not a damn thing.
        1. stas
          stas 6 November 2017 18: 59 New
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          Not exactly steers the horseradish, but why the hell knows for sure.
          And people don’t understand why the hell it’s necessary and why the hell.
          Only horseradish is not better than no horseradish.
    2. papas-57
      papas-57 5 November 2017 21: 48 New
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      `` The most liberal-minded economists, led by former Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin, believed that joining the WTO is a prerequisite for the development of competition and the economy as a whole. '' Kudrin is alive, liberal economists are alive. Why not ask them with complete confiscation for betraying the interests of the country.
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 6 November 2017 16: 35 New
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        Quote: papas-57
        Why not ask them with complete confiscation for betraying the interests of the country.


        Um ... Well, what article can Kudrin be sent "with complete confiscation" for betraying the interests of the country?
        But there isn’t such an article ... Because Kudrin at any moment will prove that everything that he did and does is for the good of the country ... And that someone on the ground stole or improperly performed is not his fault ... recourse
      2. Alf
        Alf 6 November 2017 18: 48 New
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        Quote: papas-57
        Why not ask them with complete confiscation for betraying the interests of the country.

        Because then you have to ask, WHO did they appoint the government? The answer will be unpleasant for faithful Putiners ...
    3. iouris
      iouris 6 November 2017 03: 11 New
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      Quote: Mavrikiy
      What keeps us in the WTO?

      No one has ever left the WTO. Admission is free. You can pay only by yourself.
      To enter the WTO in the Russian Federation, state (mandatory) standards were canceled. The USSR Standards Fund is tens of thousands of normative documents. The "national" standards of the GOST-R series are WTO standards. In practice, this means that barriers to the import of products manufactured by TNCs are removed or reduced to a minimum, and enterprises in the Russian Federation are closed. The state lives on money from the export of raw materials. Only products such as raw materials meet the requirements of the WTO. By banning the export of technology to the Russian Federation, the United States expects to completely kill production in the Russian Federation.
  2. ADmA_RUS
    ADmA_RUS 5 November 2017 15: 32 New
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    As soon as we ourselves release all the medicines, seeds, complex chemistry, and mass electronics, then we can start thinking about leaving the WTO.
    But something tells me that the WTO will cease to exist faster, because the process of dismantling it is accelerating.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 5 November 2017 15: 36 New
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      Quote: ADmA_RUS
      As soon as we ourselves release all the medicines, seeds, complex chemistry, and mass electronics, then we can start thinking about leaving the WTO.
      But something tells me that the WTO will cease to exist faster, because the process of dismantling it is accelerating.

      And the Cossack is mishandled. Who do you work for, Dunkel? (I don’t want to think that you have a bo-bo head)
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      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 5 November 2017 19: 25 New
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        Quote: Mavrikiy
        And we’ll leave the WTO. Tomorrow, the GDP will say: "Come out!" And come out. And he says we’ll go in, we’ll think about where, why and who.

        I’ve been waiting for many years for the GDP to say “quit”, but not quit. and Kudrin and Chubais at the feeders, and the Central Bank holds reserves in dollars. Why do we need to keep other people's money? Isn’t it easier to print your own in accordance with the Newcomb-Fisher equation successfully used to calculate the optimal money supply in the country? I would probably spend all the currency on the Iron Curtain
      2. Amurets
        Amurets 6 November 2017 01: 35 New
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        Quote: Mavrikiy
        And we’ll leave the WTO. Tomorrow, the GDP will say: "Come out!" And come out. And he says we’ll go in, we’ll think about where, why and who.

        GDP will not say, he already said EMNIP in 2015, when he answered the questions of Russians. Not for that, Russia entered the WTO in order to leave it. The master will not come and will not judge.
    3. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 5 November 2017 19: 10 New
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      Quote: ADmA_RUS
      As soon as we ourselves release all the medicines, seeds, complex chemistry, and mass electronics, then we can start thinking about leaving the WTO.

      if we play with the West, we will never produce drugs ourselves, now even caustic soda and bleach with potassium permanganate are Chinese !!! at least in the Omsk chemical reagent.
      1. ADmA_RUS
        ADmA_RUS 5 November 2017 22: 26 New
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        Proverb. Be quiet, you will marry a smart one. Our farm is developing at a monstrous pace, with a market growth of 7%, production increased by 20%. The quantity and quality of the seed is the same. We begin to produce beryllium, new chemical enterprises are opening. New lines for the production of microelectronics are bought and introduced.
        Current talkers do not understand that this is a long and complex process.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 5 November 2017 23: 14 New
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          Quote: ADmA_RUS
          Starting to produce beryllium ...

          Correction: both released and released.
          The workshop for processing this ... kindness, mother ... is one and a half kilometers from my house.
          And he worked in the 90s, and further, and now works. I.e beryllium produced and produce.
          Previously, there were also residential buildings over the fence (and the road) from it. And, oddly enough, the workers of that workshop lived there. Almost fifty did not survive to fifty.
          Now the houses were removed from there, and in the workshop itself, according to rumors, the air cleaning system was greatly improved and something else was safe there.
          In general - terrible rubbish, although, yes - "valuable and furry."
          And so - you wrote everything correctly, pylus ...
        2. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 6 November 2017 03: 45 New
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          Quote: ADmA_RUS
          Proverb. Be quiet, you will marry a smart one. Our farm is developing at a monstrous pace, with a market growth of 7%, production increased by 20%.

          Good, 1 gr. Chinese Paracetamol raw costs 50 kopecks, 1g. soda less than a penny, 1 gr. citric acid 20 kopecks., All this is mixed. pressed, we get 3 gr. an effervescent instant tablet costing less than a ruble. Packaging type Panadol weighing 20 grams. will cost 100 rubles in a pharmacy. Where and Who now produces pharmaceutical substances in our country? who synthesizes antibiotics? Even German Bayer makes its medicines from Chinese raw materials. Only the prices are German. No new drugs are being developed, names are changing, mixtures are being made, but there are no fundamentally new groups of drugs.
          1. ADmA_RUS
            ADmA_RUS 6 November 2017 14: 44 New
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            As an example.
            "MIR-PHARM KALUGA" invests 1 billion rubles in the production of substations "
        3. ltc35
          ltc35 6 November 2017 08: 52 New
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          Well, where are the new production of microelectronics opened ?! With foreign technology 15 years ago? It just sounds deafening. And the same complex printed circuit boards are ordered through fifth hands from Taiwanese and Chinese.
          1. ADmA_RUS
            ADmA_RUS 6 November 2017 14: 51 New
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            Last year in Zelenograd. Investment of 45 billion. In 2015 in Tomsk. Etc..
            Are you a specialist in microelectronics technology?
            1. ltc35
              ltc35 6 November 2017 22: 15 New
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              Not you, but you. Yes, I have been an expert in this field for a long time.
              1. ADmA_RUS
                ADmA_RUS 7 November 2017 14: 41 New
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                1. Why should I stick? We are no longer on the Internet?
                2. How many countries in the world have invested more in microelectronics over the past 5 years more than Russia?
        4. Alf
          Alf 6 November 2017 18: 51 New
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          Quote: ADmA_RUS
          We begin to produce beryllium, new chemical enterprises are opening. New lines for the production of microelectronics are bought and introduced.

          And who is the HOST of this all? Occasionally, not Western concerns?
          1. ADmA_RUS
            ADmA_RUS 6 November 2017 21: 06 New
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            1. So find out. All information is open. And you will know for sure, then you can write here.
            2. Under capitalism, you personally can change the situation with production by purchasing them yourself. You can’t buy, then under capitalism, few people are interested in your opinion and Wishlist.
            3. If we exit the WTO, and the owners are foreigners, it is not known what this may turn out to be. Production may be closed, and workers thrown into the street.
            1. Alf
              Alf 7 November 2017 21: 46 New
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              Quote: ADmA_RUS
              Production may be closed, and workers thrown into the street.

              So what ? Since the 90s, how many factories have closed? Where were the workers? And nobody cared and didn’t care.
              Quote: ADmA_RUS
              2. Under capitalism, you personally can change the situation with production by purchasing them yourself.

              Have you heard about the fishing rod under capitalism? About the right to catch?
              Quote: ADmA_RUS
              1. So find out.

              Not a hamie, not a tram.
      2. Soho
        Soho 8 November 2017 09: 42 New
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        caustic soda and bleach with potassium permanganate - Chinese !!!

        cries of fools "Achtung! everything is imported! where is ours?" reminiscent of the cries of other fools on the topic "migrants came in large numbers, wherever you spit - everywhere black." But migrants are happy to occupy precisely those jobs that Russians are in no hurry to occupy. The same is with production - our "entrepreneurs" are happy to go into the spheres of trade or services, but you won’t lure them into production. After all, it is much simpler, more profitable and cheaper to resell pasta than to grow wheat, from which they are made. It is much easier to sell round timber and get a quick profit than to bother with the production of a semi-finished product or a finished product. Even the psychology of our average unified entrepreneur is indicative - no one wants to get in touch with a project return of less than 10%. This is despite the fact that a 3% yield in the notorious West is considered decent. In pharmacies you will not find cheap three-copeck Russian aspirin, but the darkness of all kinds of Nurofen and Teraflu. It’s clear that you can earn much more on a 200-ruble package than on 10.
  3. valerei
    valerei 5 November 2017 15: 43 New
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    "What holds us in the WTO?" And you ask about it, from whom and why on this site? I remember the time when Russia was just standing on the threshold of the WTO, a lot of copies were broken about this, the general mood is in the comments: we don’t need to go there. So what? Who listened to us all? Yes, no one. And now no one will listen, although the history of all relations with the West says one thing: the West never plays with Russia by the rules, but Kudrin does not care about Russia. True, without the permission of the highest leadership of Russia, he would not be able to do anything, and if he did, he would have all the authority to do so. So the worst option of all was chosen, but only for Russia, and vice versa for the Kudrino company: everything is fine. I am convinced that over the years, the people at the head of this scam have well filled their pockets and managed to hide everything in offshore.
    1. Victor N
      Victor N 5 November 2017 18: 12 New
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      valeerei
      Have you noticed the numbers of losses in the Russian economy? The oligarchs lost this money, too.
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 5 November 2017 19: 31 New
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        Quote: Victor N
        Have you noticed the numbers of losses in the Russian economy? The oligarchs lost this money, too.

        And who needs them in the West? they have enough swindlers of their own. Berezovsky is a typical example. Earned on the collapse, could not build anything. Chubais first ububaisil all of Russia is now engaged in onanotechnology .... Authorship is needed. This is a fully self-sufficient economy.
  4. izya top
    izya top 5 November 2017 15: 45 New
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    everything that the west offers "in a friendly" way to others, carries a gesheft only and only to the west. the rest can rejoice if they remain at least with their own, but usually they are gnawed to the bone
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 5 November 2017 16: 57 New
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      "The world has gone mad," no, rather, those who believe in the morality of transnational corporations, and the world hegemon of capitalism, have gone mad - the United States. The States are doing everything right, right for themselves, for, as Joseph Stalin, a democracy, was joking, it’s not just the power of the people, but the power of the American people, more precisely the United States. If you play by someone else’s rules, that’s how it will be, the States will want and do, the rest will endure and wait.
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 5 November 2017 19: 33 New
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      the most tragic thing about this is that tolerance is the lack of an immune response. A tolerant organism is defenseless against the disease. And her, this very tolerance, is instilled in the West.
      1. izya top
        izya top 5 November 2017 19: 51 New
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        Quote: aybolyt678
        lack of an immune response.

        But why... what Gnawed perfectly yes
        1. Danash I
          Danash I 6 November 2017 15: 25 New
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          here I agree and completely. 7.62 helps a lot (knowledgeable people spoke, but only between us)
    3. EvgNik
      EvgNik 6 November 2017 13: 25 New
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      Andrew, to the point, that is, to the top ten! hi
  5. creak
    creak 5 November 2017 15: 46 New
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    It turns out that Kudrin is to blame for everything - he “made the decision on Russia's accession to the WTO,” and keeps interest rates at prohibitive levels and prevents the domestic economy from developing at all .... He entangled the whole country with his tentacles, despite the fact that years retired, like a predatory octopus .... And no one can do anything with it - neither the President nor the Prime Minister - knit them hand and foot to the joy of our enemies .... am
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 5 November 2017 19: 35 New
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      Quote: ranger
      And no one can do anything with it - neither the President nor the Prime Minister

      with political will, everything can be done. and even return the death penalty for one day
      1. creak
        creak 6 November 2017 09: 57 New
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        Quote: aybolyt678
        with political will, everything can be done. and even return the death penalty for one day

        Well, what am I talking about?
  6. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 5 November 2017 16: 07 New
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    What kind of "The most liberal-minded economists, led by former Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin, believed that joining the WTO is a necessary condition for the development of competition and the economy as a whole."?
    Maybe write directly - foreign agents?
    The WTO is a pseudo-organization that should ensure the maximum profits of “Greater Europe” with minimal costs. Not a single country that has joined (or rather, gotten involved) in the WTO has won nothing.
    1. Victor N
      Victor N 5 November 2017 18: 44 New
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      And where were we, wise and far-sighted? Could not convince? Or was there a lack of time - did you ignore the elections?
      And now, the President and the Government are increasing trading opportunities, not us: we don’t want to go to the polls. We love after tax .....
    2. iouris
      iouris 5 November 2017 23: 37 New
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      Not Europe, but TNCs that pay taxes in the USA. The Russian economy is a raw material appendage of TNCs. The Russian Federation "joined" the WTO oil and gas companies.
  7. Wolka
    Wolka 5 November 2017 16: 16 New
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    Do we really need this WTO, well, just like a dog’s fifth leg ...
  8. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 5 November 2017 16: 24 New
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    In the WTO, the country is kept by an elite, well, there is no elite in the country, its place is occupied by a western servant with passports of citizens of the Russian Federation, despising the country, the people selling the country's interests for personal benefits.
    1. MadCat
      MadCat 6 November 2017 08: 22 New
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      oh come on slogans stamp, get out of the WTO, do me a favor America wassat
  9. parusnik
    parusnik 5 November 2017 16: 35 New
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    Eternally, we will enter either the guano or the WTO ... As in that joke ...
  10. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 5 November 2017 17: 37 New
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    Why choose the worst case possible?

    For the same as on 17 of March, 1991, spitting on the results of the referendum, ruined the Union into specific principalities, hoping that the owner would make them a "beloved wife." And to this day, the policy of these "gentlemen" has not changed one iota. The next approximation of Kudrin by Putin proved it perfectly. But the most stubborn “patriots” see this as the next KhPP. Not tired? It’s already easier to believe that Martians will visit us tomorrow than in constructive changes in Putin’s policy towards his own country.
    “Patriots”: as it is sung in one Soviet song “Hope and wait, - all life ahead!”
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 5 November 2017 17: 51 New
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      Quote: Sovetskiy
      And to this day, the policy of these "gentlemen" has not changed one iota

      The blind man said: - We will see ...

      Has changed. And the "gentlemen" are already different, and politics is different.
      If you don’t see this, then the quote above is about you yes
      Quote: Sovetskiy
      Kudrin's next approximation by Putin proved it perfectly

      Oh how belay "Approaching ... proved" ... Well, come on.
      What kind of "approach", tell the world? As far as I know, Kudrin was and is pushed back. Not very far, but enough, um ... tight.
      1. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 5 November 2017 18: 02 New
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        Quote: Golovan Jack
        As far as I know, Kudrin was and is pushed back. Not very far, but enough, um ... tight.

        So he’s “pushed back”, what is he developing the next strategy for getting an ortka out of his next ass at the request of Putin?) And also allows you to speak publicly, without fear for the “skin”, about the surrender of the country's interests, for the sake of lifting sanctions?
        I hope you are joking so or seriously believe that the "boyars" are separate, and the "king" is by itself?)
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 5 November 2017 18: 18 New
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          Quote: Sovetskiy
          So "pushed" that develops the next strategy to exit ortki from the next ass?

          Not the "way out of the ass", but the Strategy for the economic development of the country ... you got the pedals here ...

          Kudrin is developing proposals. And he is not alone, by the way. Only yes

          "Whatever the child entertains, if only ... under his feet does not interfere."

          Quote: Sovetskiy
          And also allows you to speak publicly, without fear for the "skin" to talk about surrendering the interests of the country, for the sake of lifting the sanctions?

          Well, we have democracy and not the 37th year. What I want is screaming, you use it too wink
          Here, read, cognitively:

          After such a rebuke, Kudrin can only commit suicide to “apsten”, which he has been doing successfully in extreme times.
          Quote: Sovetskiy
          I hope you are joking or do you seriously believe that the "boyars" are separate, and the "king" by themselves?

          I am not kidding.
          "King" over the "boyars". There are many boyars, and they are different. The king is alone.
          He has to work with everyone, ahem, "boyars." Since he is not “king” and not the Lord God, and is not omnipotent even once.

          So, I hope you will understand.
          1. Sotskiy
            Sotskiy 5 November 2017 18: 25 New
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            Quote: Golovan Jack
            "King" over the "boyars." There are many boyars, and they are different. The king is alone. And he has to work with all, ahem, "boyars."
            So, I hope it will be clear.

            King alone? Well, honestly, do you believe that yourself?) And this “one” didn’t do anything for seventeen years, and couldn’t do anything with them?
            And, I understand, tolerance interferes. The Soviet past with its "repressions" does not allow to restore order in the country in its own environment?))
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 5 November 2017 18: 37 New
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              Quote: Sovetskiy
              King alone? Well, honestly, do you believe it yourself?

              Offer an alternative version, otherwise you are only trying to throw me questions stop
              Quote: Sovetskiy
              And this “one” didn’t do anything for seventeen years and could not do anything with them?

              This "one" has done so much in seven years that you have never dreamed of ... and does not shine and do so much in a thousand.
              Alligarchs are tamed. Those that were untameable turned out to be "there are no others," and those are farther away.
              Salaries are paid, garbage is removed, the surviving enterprises are working ... it became pleasant to communicate with the police - all of them are so funky ...
              In short, this ... no need to sing war songs.
              Could do more? Go and do it. Show, carry, an example wink
              Quote: Sovetskiy
              Does the Soviet past, with its "repressions", prevent ordering the country in its own environment?

              Everything is not easy there, "surrounded". If you’ve never worked in anything like this, you just won’t understand.
              If they worked, then again, they would not ask “talented military questions”.
              That something like this.
              1. Sotskiy
                Sotskiy 5 November 2017 18: 50 New
                +8
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Could do more? Eat and do. Show, carry, an example

                And here, just my strengths are limited, in contrast to the “lonely tsar”, by the fact that people like me are scattered by the “own” party, who turned in their own voters to the ideological adversary, so to speak, for warm places and a satisfying feeding trough and a quiet “approval”, a ubiquitous company of power according to desovietization in all mass media (it’s like that, we don’t have ideology according to the Constitution), with accusations of all sins in the flesh up to the “Western Wall”.
                So there is no need to take "weakly" here. Although ... Times are changing.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 5 November 2017 19: 15 New
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                  Quote: Sovetskiy
                  And here, just my strengths are limited, in contrast to the "lonely king", by the fact that people like me are scattered by the "own" party, which surrendered its own voters to an ideological opponent, so to speak ...

                  All clear. The arguments ended, the "cry of Yaroslavna" began.
                  Not interesting even once.
                  Quote: Sovetskiy
                  in flesh to the Wailing Wall

                  "To the flesh" ... to the extreme, I guess.
                  Learn Russian, it is written together. Polytags homegrown, illiterate, damn it negative
                  The Wailing Wall is just right for you, and cry there yes
                  Quote: Sovetskiy
                  So there is no need to take "weakly" here

                  And what to "take" you? In addition to idle talk on the Internet, you are not capable of anything ... and even here you can’t defend your “position” (and are they, generally? Or purely “against everyone and everything”?), Merge ...
                  Quote: Sovetskiy
                  Although ... Times are changing

                  You will not shine, in any scenario.
                  Somehow request
                  1. Sotskiy
                    Sotskiy 5 November 2017 19: 18 New
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                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    "To the flesh" ... to the extreme, I guess.
                    Learn Russian, it is written together. Polytags homegrown, illiterate, damn it

                    What arguments ended?))) We started to "cry" and typos "pull".
                    See for yourself then do not cry "optimists" frostbitten!
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 5 November 2017 19: 22 New
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                      Quote: Sovetskiy
                      What arguments ended?))) We started to "cry" and typos "pull"

                      The arguments are full. But you only ask questions, sensible, like those red flags, and cry.
                      Why do you need arguments?
                      Quote: Sovetskiy
                      See for yourself then do not cry "optimists" frostbitten!

                      A dog that barks will not bite. I’m competent for you, himself the dog itself ... here's mine - doesn't bark laughing
              2. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 5 November 2017 19: 43 New
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                Quote: Golovan Jack
                the surviving enterprises are working ... it became pleasant to communicate with polymethy - all of them are so funky of themselves ...

                in our city, besides the railway, there are no more enterprises left. I would like to agree with you, but I can. Yes, the police are polite, but drug addicts are roofing, an acquaintance cannot obtain a forced blood test from them, for proof.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 5 November 2017 19: 48 New
                  +9
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  in our city, besides the railway, there are no more enterprises

                  In mine - remained. In 96, he left there, because "neither work, nor money."
                  Now I go to the capital for work 5/2, and sometimes I regret that I left - the salary in the offices, of course, is not what I have now, but the checkpoint 200 meters from the house ... you can walk to work, and home for lunch.
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  the police are polite, but drug addicts are covered in the open, an acquaintance cannot obtain a forced blood test from them, to prove

                  Prosecutor's office. CSS
                  I would like to achieve - I would achieve, I’ve butted not so long ago with the former cop, as a plaintiff ... ended, ahem, with a pre-trial settlement to mutual (read - to my) pleasure.
                  Everything is possible, the law allows yes
  11. ML-334
    ML-334 5 November 2017 17: 52 New
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    The cattle were drained, the farms were dismantled, the grain was fodder, there was no one to leave the grain for sale. The fields were already overgrown with birch trees, the feather grass was dragging the village, there were only bazaars in the government.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 5 November 2017 18: 05 New
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      Quote: ML-334
      The cattle was drained ...

      ... even before 2000, dear. AND
      Quote: ML-334
      grain for sale appeared ...

      ... just now? You don’t have a folding bed, sorry ...
      Quote: ML-334
      there are only bazaars in the government

      Just like in laughing
      1. ML-334
        ML-334 5 November 2017 19: 44 New
        +9
        So, after all, “crops” for grain have just appeared, at the expense of bazaars we’re sitting and talking, and in the government they are obliged to be responsible for the bazaars.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 5 November 2017 20: 06 New
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          Quote: ML-334
          So after all, “harvests” for grain just appeared

          It's hard to argue with that ...
          And this is -
          Quote: ML-334
          The cattle was drained ... because the grain appeared for sale

          - goose, excuse me, bullshit. Catch the picture:

          1. ML-334
            ML-334 6 November 2017 05: 27 New
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            I’ve been traveling from the Sverdlovsk region to the Kurgan Tselinny district for 30 years and I can clearly see where the skeletons of farms are still located, somewhere they have pulled it away. Well, of course, the picture is beautiful, it’s unlikely that it will raise the number of livestock.
        2. EvgNik
          EvgNik 6 November 2017 13: 32 New
          +6
          Quote: ML-334
          So after all, “harvests” for grain just appeared

          And where is the grain? Over the hill, everything floats away, and the fifth grade will come down to us, the government has allowed. And in Soviet times, only the first grade to people, the fifth only to livestock. Are they holding us for cattle?
  12. Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack 5 November 2017 18: 02 New
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    The author lives in a parallel world.
    Analysts talked about the fact that soon the WTO could be replaced by the Transatlantic and Trans-Pacific partnerships with the leading role of the United States

    Both partnerships died without being born.
    Is it not time for us to reconsider the conditions for participation in the “trading club” and think: is this organization really necessary for Russia?

    De facto, WTO norms are laid crosswise after the introduction of the Russian Federation "counter-sanctions" against, be surprised, members of the same WTO. Need to clarify, or is it so clear?
    Sanctions restricting penetration and actions on the Russian market of Western corporations, while playing in our favor

    Oh how belay “So far they’re playing” ...
    Article minus, in short. I didn’t learn anything new, in the author’s head sawdust semolina.
  13. serge siberian
    serge siberian 5 November 2017 18: 19 New
    +5
    If the president, before the election, on behalf of the country declares his resignation from this organization, and even leads our country out of there, then this will be the current counter-sanctions. Then we will see which of the ministers and other elite people "cares for the Power"!
    You have to quickly run away from there, and even from PACE too. There is nothing good from them for the people.
    And we’ll do the electronics and software ourselves. Well, it’s up to our developers to pay, of course, kickbacks, in rubles and through Russian banks, taxes need to be paid to the Russian budget, not Cyprus or the Seychelles. something Russian will be enriched in addition. Well, and if so, what will it be?
    It can’t be, but still I want to.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 5 November 2017 19: 46 New
      +7
      Quote: serzh sibiryak
      If the president, before the election, on behalf of the country declares his resignation from this organization

      keyword IF. Many times I expected something like this in domestic politics as well as in foreign - I did not wait.
    2. weksha50
      weksha50 6 November 2017 17: 57 New
      0
      Quote: serzh sibiryak
      If the president, before the election, on behalf of the country declares his withdrawal from this organization, and even withdraws our country from there, then this will be the current controversies


      Here the whole problem is as follows:
      “The exit from the WTO of Russia, if there is one, will not only be the first exit of a member state from the world trade organization. The fact is that the exit procedure is not defined.
      Article XV of the WTO Constitution states:
      "Any member may withdraw from this Agreement. Such withdrawal applies both to this Agreement and to the Multilateral Trade Agreements and comes into force six months after the date of receipt by the WTO Director General of a written notice of withdrawal."
      But. This procedure is not scheduled and, accordingly, is not provided. That is, there was no precedent. So, the exit from the whale organization of world trade and the economy of such a country as Russia, and even in such a difficult period, may be accompanied by sanctions by the WTO.

      That is, they entered and suffered for 20 years, and now they are also sanctioning the exit.
      But, in the mind and for the benefit of the country, for the state, for the people - it is imperative to leave the WTO ...
      Stop engaging in anything ... merde ... negative
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII 6 November 2017 21: 25 New
        +1
        Quote: weksha50
        But, in the mind and for the benefit of the country, for the state, for the people - it is imperative to leave the WTO ...
        What is the rationale for your benefit of withdrawing from the WTO? The WTO does not threaten us with anything .... laughing
    3. Alf
      Alf 6 November 2017 18: 57 New
      0
      Quote: serzh sibiryak
      If the president before the election on behalf of the country declares his resignation from this organization,

      It is unlikely that he will live to see the election.
  14. AKC
    AKC 5 November 2017 18: 36 New
    +8
    Well, now the local economic gurus who are connected with the economy only when they receive a pension, go to the store, and give advice on how to manage the economy of the largest country in the world, will talk about the minuses of the WTO. And how good it will be if we get out of there !!! In their opinion: we’re leaving today, and tomorrow it will be good !!!!
    And for example, why no one will say that to us, ordinary consumers, it is beneficial. But domestic producers are not very (it was before the well-known events)? After all, few of us bought domestic goods if they were more expensive than similar imported ones!
    Dear commentators, why no one pays attention to that. that after joining the WTO, the dependence on raw materials in the Russian Federation has decreased, global manufacturers are investing in the Russian Federation, export is growing, and more! What do you think if the Russian Federation leaves the WTO, then we will also build car factories and open production facilities. to supply components, for example, a superjet, and barrage duties, for example, against our grain, will not be introduced?
    Of course, now the local economy gurus, in patriotic turbidity and fervor, will be encouraged to develop production. technology and stuff. Require to produce everything from plastic forks to superjet control units and more, but they won’t do it themselves !!!
    I want to explain that in no country do they completely produce all the goods and products! Globalization is intensifying in the world; one cannot be aloof. It is necessary to integrate into the world system using its position and resources. Therefore, at this stage, being in the WTO of the Russian Federation is profitable !!!
    I think that not the last role is that the sanctions imposed against the Russian Federation do not achieve the intended result. that the Russian Federation is already built into the global economic system, including thanks to the WTO !!! No one wants to shoot himself in the foot, for many countries it is enough that the sales markets have been lost !!!
    1. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy 5 November 2017 19: 10 New
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      Quote: AKC
      I want to explain that in no country do they completely produce all the goods and products! Globalization is intensifying in the world; one cannot be aloof.

      Respected! For this reason, the USSR expanded its influence not only in the CMEA, but also to the floor of the world, sometimes to the detriment of itself without any WTO. This was a REAL alternative to Western globalism, which by the way did not interfere with trading with the West, in the conditions of fierce competition, not only in oil products. That is all that the Tagged Papuan passed for a bead to the West. Hoping it would be easier to compete, or were the old-timers tired of fighting? So tired - go away, but no, they made "go away" to the whole country and the entire Soviet bloc.
      1. AKC
        AKC 5 November 2017 19: 44 New
        +1
        so it was! USSR expanded! only the real alternative you have cited, to the floor of the world and CMEA, of which you are proud. often based on Western technology, which the Union either stole or bought. for example, compare televisions, cars, clothes, furniture, toys (many of those produced in the Union were of Western origin)!
        I’m embarrassed to ask what the Union sold with the West? Could you list the competitive products that the Union produced and which the West bought? For example, I could compare Western goods and goods made in the USSR, and I am not surprised that as soon as the curtain fell, people began to buy quality things. for example cars. as soon as people got the opportunity to buy foreign cars, even if they were used, the USSR auto industry was over, the same thing happened with clothes, household appliances, etc.
        And thank God that the USSR and the bloc are over, why do you still regret that Russia does not feed any tangerine merchants. manufacturers of sprats, and second France. despite the fact that they together spat on the inhabitants of Russia in the face and laughing, declared that the Russian loafers and drunks?
        1. Sotskiy
          Sotskiy 5 November 2017 20: 01 New
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          Quote: AKC
          I am embarrassed to ask what the Union traded with the West?

          Fair?
          That's too lazy for you now to look for all the calculations in order to prove something. See for yourself, everything is in the public domain.
          From the current ones, what is being heard is being bought by the most “advanced” West, our RD-180 rocket engines developed during the USSR, and we have them in response to “iPhones” and “Boeings”))). Equivalent "exchange", right ?. Or do you want to say that the “Soviets” stole the technology of rocket engines from the United States, so that they could sell “copies” to them later?))) Regarding the consumer market, the policy of the “party” was mobilization and this was not considered the main problem for the country, from there is the very legendary shortage of consumer goods. China decided this “article” differently and not only on trivial plagiarism, while not losing its industry and specialists, which the new government in the Russian Federation “entered without access to soap” to the WTO.
        2. serge siberian
          serge siberian 6 November 2017 17: 59 New
          +3
          Here, the holders were made in the USSR and work to this day, unlike the imported ones, for 3-4 years and to the master for a bow or for scrap. How to understand this?
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 5 November 2017 19: 52 New
      +6
      Quote: AKC
      Dear commentators, why no one pays attention to that. that after joining the WTO, the dependence on raw materials in the Russian Federation has decreased, global manufacturers are investing in the Russian Federation, export is growing, and more!

      Raw dependence has not fallen. it is oil prices that have fallen and therefore we have to produce something ourselves. Investments are in raw materials and assembly, without technology. Assembly is advantageous in that spare parts are not subject to duties. So, we assemble the TV from 4 parts, the screen, the unit, the front and back covers, the cars are assembled from the body of the motor, bridges and bumpers. As a result, we lose more on duties and capital than before.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 5 November 2017 20: 15 New
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        Quote: aybolyt678
        Investments are in raw materials and assembly, without technology

        Ahem ... not really like that.
        All these investors undertake to "localize" production at the deadline.
        Volkswagen RUS, for example, has now launched a plant in Kaluga for the production of engines and localization (engine production) of 30%. Bye thirty.
        They also work with other investors.
        Quote: aybolyt678
        As a result, we lose more on duties and capital than before

        The Kotoglazyevs told you this, admit it. Or Kotonosov.
        Not so simple. If you recall, then Peter the Great also began from this - foreigners organized manufactories from him ...
        And China has risen to the same point - not all Amer production has moved to it.
        So not everything is as hopeless as you have outlined here.
        IMHO, naturally.
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 5 November 2017 20: 25 New
          +8
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          So not everything is as hopeless as you have outlined here.
          IMHO, naturally.

          despair in the absence of succession of power, lack of ideology. In the same China, ideology has legal force. The recommendation of the party committee has the force of an order for the court
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 5 November 2017 20: 55 New
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            Quote: aybolyt678
            The recommendation of the party committee has the force of an order for the court

            Already been. At the Union. What really helped?
            Quote: aybolyt678
            despair in the absence of succession of power, lack of ideology

            Here I agree, perhaps. Although about the continuity - here, it's ... wagging the water, IMHO.
            Quote: aybolyt678
            In the same China Ideology has legal force

            good laughing good
            Well, you said ... That is, I realized what you wanted to say ... but it turned out much better laughing
            PLUS is frantic!
        2. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 6 November 2017 03: 30 New
          +5
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Volkswagen RUS, for example, has now launched a plant in Kaluga for the production of engines and localization (engine production) of 30%. Bye thirty.

          And also in Elabuga, Ford also launched a plant, there localization of 45%, to summarize: these plants have fully automated, robotic lines. Our share is the gigantic energy costs of casting blocks and raw materials. All science has remained there. It is also like aluminum, its export has remained almost at the level of the Union, and the fact is that our electricity is subsidized, and by exporting aluminum we subsidize Boeing.
  15. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 5 November 2017 18: 42 New
    +6
    This was signed by the liberals, first introducing into their consciousness a sense of inferiority from not participating in the WTO. am

    And who signed the climate agreement?
    Who ratified the 1982 Maritime Convention?
    Who opposes controlling cross-border capital flows?
    Who, after all, holds gold reserves in American bonds?

    These persons should be punished, it is possible as participants in the Powder plot. am
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 5 November 2017 19: 35 New
      +2
      So all countries are doing - over there China, in the US economy it has almost $ 1400 billion.
      1. Gormenghast
        Gormenghast 5 November 2017 22: 09 New
        +1
        One silly striped host showman asked about this one clever mattress boy. "What to do?"

        He replied "We must kill all the Chinese".

        The return of debts will be just that. am
  16. APASUS
    APASUS 5 November 2017 20: 40 New
    0
    Perhaps the only thing that catches me in the WTO system is that this system is not equal, it is completely absent. In it, every country bargains certain preferences for itself and must observe them. The trickier your government is, the more insistent the accession committee is, the more chances you have get the pros from joining.
  17. Sige
    Sige 5 November 2017 22: 18 New
    0
    In the WTO, we are kept kickbacks and gifts to specific individuals.
    They have long been making decisions, not in the interests of their country, but in the interests of their account in the United States.
  18. Karabin
    Karabin 5 November 2017 23: 34 New
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    What keeps us in the WTO? Is it not time for us to reconsider the conditions of participation in the “trade club” and think: does Russia really need this organization?

    The same thing that stuck us there. I sometimes wonder at articles and comments on them. And the chicken memory of some commentators. The first thing Putin did when he returned to the presidency in 12 was to form a government led by Dimon. The second - joined the WTO. He personally spoke in the Duma, extolling nishtyaki from this organization. SR, the Communist Party and the Liberal Democratic Party voted against, Edro, with the exception of two - FOR. That's how edirasty and Putin got into this guano. And no one else. But for some reason, the liberals and Kudrin are to blame. But Putin has nothing to do with it.
  19. Stepan Kudinov
    Stepan Kudinov 6 November 2017 10: 09 New
    0
    "What holds us in the WTO?" - not what, but who ??????????????????? All the clowning from the judoliberoid government, in which the money "earned" by excessive "labor", are in foreign banks.
  20. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 6 November 2017 18: 28 New
    +1
    “Russia participates in much more democratic and independent trade and political structures - from the Customs Union to the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and the emerging Eurasian economic space. Why choose the worst case scenario?”
    Apparently we are not looking for easy ways ... It's so interesting to create problems for ourselves, and then heroically overcome them! ..
  21. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 6 November 2017 20: 27 New
    0

    Extra charges in Dixie, Magnet etc.
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 6 November 2017 20: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: vladimirvn
      Extra charges in Dixie, Magnet etc.
      Everything is bad with her, it falls, everything is stripped off, but somehow she went to the X5 Retail Group "system nipple" ....... belay
      1. vladimirvn
        vladimirvn 6 November 2017 20: 50 New
        0
        Motor fuel rises in price in Russia
        95th gasoline of the fifth class rose by 155 rubles per ton (up to 47 rubles per ton)
        MOSCOW, November 6, 2017, 20:26 - REGNUM In the European part of the Russian Federation, from October 30 to November 3, a significant increase in wholesale prices for all types of motor fuel was recorded. It is reported by PRIME.
        In particular, the 95th gasoline of the fifth grade rose by 155 rubles per ton (up to 47 rubles per ton), and the 760nd gasoline of the fifth grade rose by 92 rubles per ton (up to 158 rubles per ton).
        It is noted that the “summer” diesel fuel of the fifth class has also risen in price, a ton of which will now cost 43 rubles (753 rubles) at wholesale.
        As REGNUM reported earlier, on July 10, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich said that in 2017, gasoline prices in the Russian Federation can be expected to increase at the inflation level.
        According to him, gas prices in dynamics over the past
        Details: https://regnum.ru/news/economy/2342354.html
        1. XXXIII
          XXXIII 6 November 2017 21: 21 New
          +2
          You understand that gasoline (fuel) has the greatest demand in the country, in the world, and there is a constant demand .... Oil corporations are affiliated or state-owned, they essentially decide how much fuel will cost ..... such things .... yes
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 6 November 2017 23: 48 New
            +1
            how is bottled water if in fact laughing
  22. Altona
    Altona 7 November 2017 14: 50 New
    0
    The WTO was needed primarily by oil and gas exporters — Rosneft and Gazprom. What really coquettishly keep silent? Therefore, they sold such an unprofitable package of accession, pursuing only their narrowly selfish goals. Then you can comment and call our figures any unprintable words yourself.
  23. M. Michelson
    M. Michelson 7 November 2017 22: 42 New
    0
    So how, sons, did your Poles help you?
    Eh, they tried so hard, they tried so hard. Even a rally against the eve of entry was declared "unconstitutional" and banned.
    Perhaps they hoped that sanctions could not be imposed on WTO participants?
    And now about the WTO, no gu-gu. They probably don’t want such questions to come down: why?
    And another interesting question: who? Who should be held accountable for this senseless and merciless experiment?
  24. kig
    kig 8 November 2017 07: 51 New
    0
    And how was the percentage of damage calculated? Engineering products suffered 14% - how did they calculate that these 14% are due to the WTO, and not because of something else?
  25. Nemesis
    Nemesis 8 November 2017 20: 17 New
    +1
    Membership of the Russian Federation in the WTO is another stupidity of Moscow, nothing more, nothing less and nothing more ... Talking about world prices for services in the Russian Federation is possible only after salaries in the Russian Federation are equal to the world ones, and neither Moscow nor Rublevka needs this, which is served by the Kremlin.
  26. meGrail
    meGrail 8 November 2017 22: 15 New
    0
    Damned Yeltsin and his liberals dragged there!
  27. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 11 November 2017 19: 06 New
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    Or rather: who holds us in the WTO?
    But these people are holding -