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Iranian leader offered Putin a way to isolate America

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Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei at a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin said that cooperation between Tehran and Moscow will help “isolate the United States,” reports RIA News.




We are able to repel US sanctions and isolate America, abandoning the dollar and replacing it with national currencies in bilateral and multilateral operations,
said Khamenei to the Russian president.

He stressed that Vladimir Putin is a “strong personality.”

Therefore, it is possible to cooperate with Russia in regard to large actions that require determination and perseverance as a superpower, and it is possible to cooperate with it logically,
added Iranian leader.

On Wednesday, during his visit to Tehran, the Russian president met with Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, President of the Islamic Republic of Iran Hassan Rouhani and head of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev. The parties discussed current issues on the international agenda and topics related to the energy sector.
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  1. Grandfather
    Grandfather 2 November 2017 09: 53
    17
    [/ quote] Iranian leader suggested Putin a way to isolate America "We are able to repel American sanctions and isolate America by abandoning the dollar and replacing it with national currencies in bilateral and multilateral operations," [quote] Khamenei told the Russian president. .............. Well ... according to the laws of the genre, now there should be a war ... if you recall Libya and Gaddafi.
    1. Logall
      Logall 2 November 2017 10: 00
      28
      Quote: Dead Day
      now there must be a war ... if you recall Libya and Gaddafi.

      Not that state, not that regime!
      The most interesting thing is that He proposed to act as we act with China ... Plagiarist, damn it ...
      1. Vend
        Vend 2 November 2017 10: 06
        +6
        Quote: Logall
        Quote: Dead Day
        now there must be a war ... if you recall Libya and Gaddafi.

        Not that state, not that regime!
        The most interesting thing is that He proposed to act as we act with China ... Plagiarist, damn it ...

        And not those friends!
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN 2 November 2017 11: 47
          +5
          Quote: Wend
          And not those friends!

          Enemy of my enemy, my friend smile
          We are able to repel US sanctions and isolate America, abandoning the dollar and replacing it with national currencies in bilateral and multilateral operations,
          This time it’s yelling that it’s not fair, it’s not by the rules ... in general, a doping scandal ... And the most interesting is that our liberals will yell ... wink
      2. Jedi
        Jedi 2 November 2017 10: 07
        27
        Sasha, the more countries in mutual settlements leave the dollar, the stronger the blow to the United States. And this cannot but bother them.
        1. Logall
          Logall 2 November 2017 10: 11
          13
          Max, Greetings and congratulations!
          The Yankees see this, and will do anything ...
          More villains, more negativity in the world ...
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 2 November 2017 10: 15
            13
            Thank you!
            Quote: Logall
            The Yankees see this, and will do anything ...
            More villains, more negativity in the world ...

            They do not know how and do not want to do otherwise - because this is an encroachment on the world hegemony of their green wrapper.
            1. cniza
              cniza 2 November 2017 10: 31
              +6
              “No matter how much the rope does not end,” but they will resist very toughly.
              1. Jedi
                Jedi 2 November 2017 10: 33
                +6
                Like anyone who is going to "move".
                1. aszzz888
                  aszzz888 2 November 2017 10: 51
                  +5
                  Jedi Today, 10:33

                  With the next !!! drinks ... sooner or later, but cut paper will come to an end ...
                  1. Jedi
                    Jedi 2 November 2017 10: 56
                    +5
                    Thank you Sheriff! hi
                    Quote: aszzz888
                    sooner or later, but cut paper will come to an end ...

                    While they will shift the border of the US public debt, the Fed will stamp out unsecured pieces of paper. And this process will not be endless.
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 2 November 2017 11: 38
                      +4
                      The funny thing is that 62% of the US debt belongs to Amer citizens.
              2. Gary zucker
                Gary zucker 2 November 2017 11: 42
                +2
                So dollars are their main export commodity. They sit denser on them than we do on oil. Their sales managers are convincing, albeit very expensive. Despite the fact that geography gives them the opportunity, even without hegemony, to be a highly developed economy, they now have so many parasites that they can only be put under the knife, and for this we need to come up with a good reason.
          2. Esoteric
            Esoteric 2 November 2017 15: 14
            +2
            Quote: Logall
            The Yankees see this, and will do anything ...

            Against nuclear powers? Yeah ... wassat To Hitler to visit ...
        2. 34 region
          34 region 2 November 2017 11: 34
          +3
          10.07. Jedi! To move away from the dollar, there must be a good economy with modern technology and low (or zero) inflation. How will you get away from the dollar if your ruble rate jumps like a young horse! How do you get away from the dollar if your price tags change every day? The United States, unlike Russia, either sells or manufactures technology, and the prices there will not jump like ours. Therefore, all the talk about avoiding the dollar, only talk. China may still leave the dollar. But Russia and Iran are doubtful. But of course you can dream. That's just in addition to dreams, you also need to do something to make dreams come true.
          1. Esoteric
            Esoteric 2 November 2017 15: 17
            +1
            Quote: Region 34
            To move away from the dollar, there must be a good economy with modern technology and low (or zero) inflation.

            Come on! This is if you carry the body around the world and disdain "Russian fat". To get away from the dollar is to reconsider the method of settlements and be more economical in terms of luxury for oneself and loved ones at the expense of the budget ... belay
            1. 34 region
              34 region 2 November 2017 15: 41
              +2
              15.17. Esoteric! Revise the settlement methodology? What is it like? Sell ​​for rubles? First, count at the dollar rate, and then name the amount? Or immediately sell for rubles? Well, sold for rubles. What will they buy from us for them? What to trade with us? And how to make trading for rubles? So far, except for spells, it is necessary for rubles, it is necessary for rubles, there is nothing. In the competition of goods and technologies, we are in place, and everyone knows which one. hi
          2. Vard
            Vard 2 November 2017 17: 52
            +1
            It may well work here, if of course the Central Bank is nationalized ...
        3. CAT BAIYUN
          CAT BAIYUN 2 November 2017 11: 42
          +7
          And this cannot but bother them.

          Already worried, but still silent. Russia and China can’t just be pressed like Syria ...
          The PVP settlement system is already working, as it were. Exactly on the day of the Chinese congress launched.
          So gradually, gradually ....
          And Iran expressed readiness.
          Good day, Sasha.
        4. amr
          amr 2 November 2017 16: 11
          +1
          Isn't that pointless?
          The issue of our currency occurs only after the purchase of their dollars .....

          same song with a different chorus!
      3. Berber
        Berber 2 November 2017 10: 12
        +6
        Why not take advantage of what is reasonable? Only surely there are pitfalls. For example - why are there no yuan in our banks? We take a lot from China. And then the Iranian Rial. To realize this decision, a great deal of mutual trade is needed, at a minimum.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 2 November 2017 10: 51
          +4
          Quote: BerBer
          Why not take advantage of what is reasonable? Only surely there are pitfalls. For example - why are there no yuan in our banks? We take a lot from China. And then the Iranian Rial. To realize this decision, a great deal of mutual trade is needed, at a minimum.

          And the course between the ruble and the real will be calculated how? Through the Swiss franc? :)
        2. 34 region
          34 region 2 November 2017 11: 44
          0
          10.12. Berber! Mutual trade in raw materials countries! And so it is, mutual trade is needed. Iran was able to survive the economic blockade. You can learn from their experience.
          1. Berber
            Berber 2 November 2017 11: 52
            +1
            The question is not what we will sell, but what they are to us. In this phrase, the keyword is "Mutual". If we are a raw material power, then we have a larger range of raw materials.
            1. 34 region
              34 region 2 November 2017 12: 14
              +1
              11.52. Berber! You can completely buy their oil, and freeze your production in the north. Let under the action of centrifugal forces move to the equator and be cleaned in a natural way. And we will sell them technological products. Here we only support science, develop and implement achievements! But I think the meeting was with the question of a single oil price. All other questions were secondary.
              1. Berber
                Berber 2 November 2017 12: 21
                +2
                I agree with that. But we then discussed mutual trade.
              2. Berber
                Berber 2 November 2017 12: 23
                +4
                laughing You can completely buy their oil, and freeze your production in the north. Let under the action of centrifugal forces move to the equator and be cleaned in a natural way.[i] [/ i]
                Thanks for the humor.
          2. MadCat
            MadCat 2 November 2017 23: 50
            +2
            Quote: Region 34
            10.12. Berber! Mutual trade in raw materials countries! And so it is, mutual trade is needed. Iran was able to survive the economic blockade. You can learn from their experience.

            Well, it’s possible to adopt the “experience” in the DPRK too ... unless of course you drop the skates from hunger before.
      4. Orionvit
        Orionvit 2 November 2017 11: 09
        +4
        Quote: Logall
        Plagiarist, damn it ...

        Why plagiarism? The only way to fight the United States is to put pressure on the most painful point, namely the dollar. I hope no one will deny that all the power of the states is based on the dollar, and the possibility of its emission into the world economy, in unlimited quantities. And all these tales that they say the Americans live well (far from all the same), only due to some special mind, ability to work and other excellent qualities, should be left to naive grandmothers and liberals.
      5. CAT BAIYUN
        CAT BAIYUN 2 November 2017 11: 40
        +4
        Plagiarist, damn it.

        Most likely, this is how he declared the decision on readiness to join the PVP settlement system.
    2. Finches
      Finches 2 November 2017 10: 02
      +7
      And then! Otherwise:
      "The shah signed in complete inability -
      Here take it and replace it!
      Where to get? We have any second in Turkmenistan -
      Ayatollah, and even Khomeini.
      All my life I beat the horns like a ram,
      And I would take the Quran and - to Tehran! "
      laughing
    3. Dashout
      Dashout 2 November 2017 10: 02
      +5
      abandoning the dollar and replacing it with national currencies in bilateral and multilateral operations

      How much can the dollar sway, because the volume of turnover between our countries is insignificant ... and from the point of view of oil sales, these are exporting countries ...
      1. Logall
        Logall 2 November 2017 10: 06
        15
        This is the beginning of the process! Its main thing is to start ... Then we will pull everything Brix!
        And this is no longer tinti vinti ...
    4. askort154
      askort154 2 November 2017 11: 11
      +1
      Grandfather .... Well ... according to the laws of the genre, now there must be a war ... if you recall Libya and Gaddafi.

      Yeah ! And the first was not pleased De Gaulle, who demanded the return of gold
      stock of France and peg the dollar to gold.
      1. jjj
        jjj 2 November 2017 11: 15
        0
        Selling oil for rubles at lower than market prices, bypassing futures trading on exchanges
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 2 November 2017 11: 41
          +1
          Quote: jjj
          Selling oil for rubles at lower than market prices, bypassing futures trading on exchanges

          Igilovsky option. Everybody ran into this oil, from Israel (through Bulgarian firms) to Rosneft through them.
    5. CAT BAIYUN
      CAT BAIYUN 2 November 2017 11: 38
      +4
      Well ... according to the laws of the genre, now there must be a war ... if you recall Libya and Gaddafi.

      So I'm worried about this topic.
      The PVP system, on the other hand, is already operational. The states are still silent.
      I think Iran will be integrated into it.
      And there we’ll see.
    6. twviewer
      twviewer 2 November 2017 15: 40
      0
      Well ... according to the laws of the genre, now there must be a war ... if you recall Libya and Gaddafi.

      Nakoy? It is enough to freeze assets and keep gas from Pravdorubov to Europe.
      By the way, our response to such a tempting proposal will be deep concern and the transfer of all "unnecessary assets" to the West? Indeed, according to the opinion of the most influential person in the world, our only real asset today is patriotism, so why cling to imaginary wealth, let these bastards drown in them. I think so.
    7. Primoos
      Primoos 3 November 2017 11: 47
      +2
      The best isolator for pin.dostan is pin.dostan itself. With their moronic sanctions policy, they, in the end, isolate themselves from the whole WORLD.
  2. Michael67
    Michael67 2 November 2017 09: 53
    +5
    From time immemorial, these guys - where the wind blows, the caravan will turn there.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 2 November 2017 09: 59
      0
      Qashqai, of course, expressed it figuratively ... Well, of course there will be no isolation, even if we unite .. Maybe only Turkish vegetables will suffer ..
    2. Berber
      Berber 2 November 2017 10: 14
      +1
      About modern Iran, I would not say that.
    3. Sverdlov
      Sverdlov 2 November 2017 10: 40
      0
      So, well, what turned in our direction? :)
  3. Dezinto
    Dezinto 2 November 2017 09: 56
    +5
    We are waiting for the statements of the US State Department. I can’t even imagine how the papers prepared by them are scalded with steam.
  4. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 2 November 2017 09: 56
    +3
    Itself long ago jumped out of isolation? ...
  5. olhon
    olhon 2 November 2017 09: 56
    +3
    "In the US, they swallowed nervously. Remember Gaddafi and Saddam." Well, here, as they did not work with them.
    1. Michael67
      Michael67 2 November 2017 10: 00
      +1
      Sure. Under the auspices of the Russian Federation and not such statements can be made. The probability of a repeat of the fate of Saddam and Gaddafi tends to zero.
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 2 November 2017 10: 57
      +2
      Quote: olhon
      "In the US, they swallowed nervously. Remember Gaddafi and Saddam." Well, here, as they did not work with them.

      I do not know. The last war (Iran-Iraq in the 80s) lasted 10 years and was lost by Iran. (Territorial loss)
      Prior to this, in 1941 they tried to fend off the British and Soviet troops, who went to Iran to prevent the Persians from switching to the Reich side (the padishah took steps to this) and surrendered within a few days. How strong they are now - HZ. I think not.
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 2 November 2017 11: 45
        0
        Quote: Krasnodar
        (Territorial loss)

        And what kind of our connoisseur did Iran have territorial losses?
        Although I realized apparently your Israeli alternative story written by rabbis tells about this lol
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 2 November 2017 23: 11
          +1
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Quote: Krasnodar
          (Territorial loss)

          And what kind of our connoisseur did Iran have territorial losses?
          Although I realized apparently your Israeli alternative story written by rabbis tells about this lol

          A piece of Khuzistan was seized by the Iraqis. Then they returned it to Iran before the Desert Storm.
          And the rabbis do not write history with us and even have no power, unlike the ayatolls in dresses :)
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 4 November 2017 16: 05
            0
            Quote: Krasnodar
            And the rabbis do not write history with us

            It is only you who think so.
  6. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 2 November 2017 09: 59
    +7
    Soon, the Pentagon will begin to receive statements about Russia's support for evil regimes, terrorists around the world and other nonsense.
  7. Vita vko
    Vita vko 2 November 2017 10: 05
    +3
    abandoning the dollar and replacing it with national currencies in bilateral and multilateral operations
    The problems of Russia and the United States just started 10 years ago when at the BRICS level it was proposed to abandon the American currency in mutual settlements. A large number of countries supported this idea, and with China, even the payment system is being introduced in national currencies.
    It is strange that Iran is only now so loudly declaring its response. In fact, this is the usual logic and the vital need to stop the US exploitation of the economies of other states that create commodity security for the dollar.
  8. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 2 November 2017 10: 13
    +1
    But Putin cleanly neighing with his government ....
  9. Ural resident
    Ural resident 2 November 2017 10: 16
    +3
    I wonder how in such situations the rate of one currency to another will be calculated?
    if through the ratio of the currency of each country to the dollar? - then this is the same dependence on the dollar.
    Or through another reserve currency, for example, through Chinese? It is not clear how to count it otherwise.
    1. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 2 November 2017 10: 55
      +3
      It is possible for everyone not necessarily through another reserve currency - as agreed. The only trouble is. that when paying through the dollar, the transaction is much faster. When paying in another way, the transaction is made slowly. because each side begins to bargain - relatively speaking - how many "camels" need to be delivered per 1000 cubic meters of forest. For this, however, it is necessary to tightly control foreign trade in order to avoid discrepancies in the number of "camels" from different organizations. China does this, but we do not, because of this the slow progress of settlements without the dollar is our fault - liberals in the government resist. By the way, in Soviet times, such transactions were concluded everywhere. I remember how the announcer solemnly pronounced the USSR concluded an agreement with ... for the supply of ... tractors in exchange for cocoa.
      1. Dashout
        Dashout 2 November 2017 11: 20
        +3
        Quote: mikh-korsakov
        It is possible for everyone not necessarily through another reserve currency - as agreed.

        But the gold exchange rate in Swiss francs will not work? Or is there also a dependence on the dollar?
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 2 November 2017 11: 42
          0
          Quote: Dashout
          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          It is possible for everyone not necessarily through another reserve currency - as agreed.

          But the gold exchange rate in Swiss francs will not work? Or is there also a dependence on the dollar?

          Prices per troy ounce in dollars.
          1. Serzh
            Serzh 2 November 2017 19: 21
            0
            And what is the problem with such a global reversal to make settlements through gold? Gold, not as a payment instrument, but as a guarantor of the solvency of the country's currency. And the calculation of the value of the currency is tied to gold and only to gold. Such conversations have been going on for a long time. At first, it can be a grid rigidly created at basic domestic prices, which will subsequently be "released" and the domestic market will regulate the cost.
      2. 23424636
        23424636 2 November 2017 15: 59
        0
        there were people in the USSR who were not biased for ratings and clearing settlements were carried out with Yugoslavia, Finland, and of course the State Department and those with it really did not like these mechanisms. But the question is, the friendship with Iran so hard fostered by Putin can be discarded by his successor and if it is a Dima-300 complex, Kisenger can go to visit Abram and Isaac for joy
    2. 34 region
      34 region 2 November 2017 12: 01
      0
      10.16. A citizen! Yes, come up with a new currency, for example, oil. One petroleum is equal to one liter of oil. The oilmen printed more of the produced oil, inflation went down. True banks will bend their interest. You have to prohibit giving them at interest or limit the percentage.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 2 November 2017 23: 15
        0
        Quote: 34 region
        10.16. A citizen! Yes, come up with a new currency, for example, oil. One petroleum is equal to one liter of oil. The oilmen printed more of the produced oil, inflation went down. True banks will bend their interest. You have to prohibit giving them at interest or limit the percentage.

        The oil will depend on the demand for slurry and the situation in BV - i.e. Pts will not be stable
        If the bulk of the savings are now in bucks, no one will think about converting them into oil and
  10. 100502
    100502 2 November 2017 10: 18
    +5
    Taunted) empty and childish statements
  11. RomanS
    RomanS 2 November 2017 10: 19
    +4
    In fact, Iran reconciled to the loss of $ 50 billion frozen in the accounts of the United States and Europe. Therefore, such a responsible public speaking arose.
  12. Cat Marquis
    Cat Marquis 2 November 2017 10: 24
    +5
    Well, well ... "a flag in his hands and a drum on his neck." Given the meager trade between Russia and Iran ... lol
    1. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 2 November 2017 16: 05
      +1
      Down and Out trouble started
  13. gorenina91
    gorenina91 2 November 2017 10: 37
    0
    -Someone can clearly "explain" the purpose and results of this visit of the "Iranian leader" to Russia ..?
    -Because today .., by definition, in its "essence" and "likeness" Iran is for Russia .., if not an enemy .., then at least ... -a very dangerous competitor ... -And if suddenly tomorrow Iran "gets to its feet", then Russia will have "very difficult times" in the Middle East ... -And all the Russian costs and everything that Russia once invested in the Middle East ...- all at once will turn into dust ...
    -Iran today has largely begun to ignore Russia ... and increasingly prefers to "communicate" with China ...
    -Maybe this Iranian leader also came to ask him to sell the S-400 ..? -Or have other goals ..? - Somehow all this looks doubtful ...
    1. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 2 November 2017 10: 50
      +6
      All is correct. Only in this case, this "Russian leader" came to Iran. and not vice versa as you wrote. To your comment. History teaches us that we are constant friends in international politics. not. I know that our leader has repeatedly spoken about this. In order to bind a country to us, we need to attract, involve, and, most importantly, bind it. In the case of Iran, it was attracted by the construction of a nuclear power plant in Bushehr, involved in the Astana process, and obliged by something or not - this is not a question for the general public.
    2. padded jacket
      padded jacket 2 November 2017 11: 52
      +2
      Quote: gorenina91
      -Someone can clearly "explain" the purpose and results of this visit of the "Iranian leader" to Russia ..?

      This Putin flew to Iran to meet with his ally and discuss issues of a peaceful settlement in post-war Syria and other problems.
      Quote: gorenina91
      -Iran today has largely begun to ignore Russia ... and increasingly prefers to "communicate" with China ...

      Russia-Iran trade is $ 2 billion; China-Iran trade is $ 30 billion.
      And all this because our country followed the lead of the United States and froze cooperation with Iran in gratitude for this. The United States included Russia in a kind of "axis of evil" along with the same Iran and North Korea.
      By the way, at a meeting yesterday between Putin and Rouhani, contracts worth $ 30 billion were only officially signed.
  14. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 2 November 2017 10: 43
    0
    Quote: Wend
    Quote: Logall
    Quote: Dead Day
    now there must be a war ... if you recall Libya and Gaddafi.

    Not that state, not that regime!
    The most interesting thing is that He proposed to act as we act with China ... Plagiarist, damn it ...

    And not those friends!

    For lack of stamp we write on the usual.
  15. dojjdik
    dojjdik 2 November 2017 10: 48
    +3
    the gold coin among Jews and Britons is more buoyant even if the finances are not connected not between Iran and Russia, but from China with India, but this does not mean that this is impossible; and of course the americans are not going to give anyone their multi-billion dollar debt because Jews are gentlemen all over the world and everyone should say “ku” to them and squat before them
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 2 November 2017 11: 01
      +1
      Pro idea is good. I’ll tell my wife, children and Kent - at my appearance three ku, patsaki.
  16. Eurodav
    Eurodav 2 November 2017 10: 50
    +1
    Quote: gorenina91
    -Someone can clearly "explain" the purpose and results of this visit of the "Iranian leader" to Russia ..?
    -Because today .., by definition, in its "essence" and "likeness" Iran is for Russia .., if not an enemy .., then at least ... -a very dangerous competitor ... -And if suddenly tomorrow Iran "gets to its feet", then Russia will have "very difficult times" in the Middle East ... -And all the Russian costs and everything that Russia once invested in the Middle East ...- all at once will turn into dust ...
    -Iran today has largely begun to ignore Russia ... and increasingly prefers to "communicate" with China ...
    -Maybe this Iranian leader also came to ask him to sell the S-400 ..? -Or have other goals ..? - Somehow all this looks doubtful ...

    "...- Someone can clearly" explain "the purpose and results of this visit of the" Iranian leader "to Russia ..? ..."
    Why is it incomprehensible? The Zionist's nightmare in reality! I hope the connection between Zionism and the top of the United States you do not need to "clearly" explain?
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 2 November 2017 11: 19
      +1
      Why is it incomprehensible? The Zionist's nightmare in reality! I hope the connection between Zionism and the top of the United States you do not need to "clearly" explain? [/
      -----------------
      Do you seriously think that the Israelis will be massively evacuated after this visit? )))
      Or will Americans be afraid that the dollar will collapse because of an Iranian phrase? :)
      Offer the leadership of the Russian Federation to transfer the Reserve Fund into rubles at the current exchange rate, and the Iranians to accept their frozen lard in real life, they will send you like that ... that they are Russian, that the Persians ..
  17. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 2 November 2017 11: 10
    +2
    And Volodimir looks good! "Modestly, but tastefully!" Well, what the hell will doubt that this is the most powerful world leader of the 21st century? But ... creak their teeth ... Abidna to all Soros!
    1. Dashout
      Dashout 2 November 2017 11: 27
      +3
      Yes, I agree! Also, what about the planned north-south logistics route (St. Pereburg, Azerbaijan, Iran, India)? Of course, it is shorter than the existing one and there are many benefits from it ... it involves both India and the Arab countries ..

      But what will this route look like with the Chinese silk road? Not a conflict?
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  19. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 November 2017 11: 21
    +1
    Cooperation should be not only economic, but also political benefit. And today, Iran and I are on one side of the barricades, which Syria confirms. Whoever and however would criticize Iran, but since this country is like a bone in the throat of the United States and Israel, it means that it is necessary to establish excellent relations with it.
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      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 2 November 2017 11: 46
        +1
        in spite of the United States and Israel, and not for improvement states Russian citizens

        Are you on health? If not, why should the welfare of Russian citizens deteriorate from such cooperation? And why does it suddenly (welfare) excite you so much?
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  20. kaserog
    kaserog 2 November 2017 11: 37
    +1
    Quote: Dashout
    Not a conflict?

    no, this is the southern route of the Silk Road and also the gas pipeline to India and Pakistan from Iran
  21. Sergei75
    Sergei75 2 November 2017 12: 07
    0
    What, straight and suggested? And trumpeted everyone!
    Shnyaga, only Trump can do that, politics is a delicate matter, nobody says anything like that.
  22. askort154
    askort154 2 November 2017 12: 23
    +2
    Grandfather .... Well ... according to the laws of the genre, now there must be a war ... if you recall Libya and Gaddafi.

    Yeah ! And the first was De Gaulle, who demanded that France’s gold reserves be returned and the dollar tied to gold. After problems with De Gaulle, the Americans came up with the Fed system, creating a "independent" printing press. The result of the victory of the confrontation between the two systems and two super powers of the 20th century, was the "independent" Fed (with about its printing press). Anglo-Saxons outplayed (not like before, countries and regions, such as India, Australia, etc.), and most of the world, the World did not like it, but among them there are few "violent" except Russia. After "Munich -2007" , everyone froze in anticipation of how many months would pass, how the US would “tear apart” Russia, how long it would last (who is who Putin). They showed it on Milosevic, Hussein and Gaddafi. Now, all of a sudden, Trump has more trouble than Putin. In the US than in the Russian Federation. The world is slowly beginning to see clearly (created by the BRICS, SCO and T, D), that the main problem in the world today is the "policeman with the Fed dollar stick."
    I believe the 21st century is critical. Either the World will demystify the “policeman with the Fed,” or the World will cease to exist. A third is no longer given.
    1. Cat Marquis
      Cat Marquis 2 November 2017 12: 29
      +2
      After problems with De Gaulle, the Americans came up with the Fed system,


      Lord, what a "mess" in your head ..... wink
      1. askort154
        askort154 2 November 2017 12: 51
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        Cat Marquis .... Lord, what a "mess" in your head .....

        Thank. What about the creation of the Fed? I just didn’t consistently express my “quick keyboard thoughts” (household distracted). The Fed was created in 1913. But in international practice, she became the "head of the global financial angle", after the Second World War. De Gaulle's “trick” gave an additional impulse. If not right? Enlighten hi
        1. Cat Marquis
          Cat Marquis 2 November 2017 13: 31
          +2
          Explain for a long time. The United States managed to subjugate the global financial system by creating not the Fed, but an "international payment system" based on the dollar currency and the "authentication system" of SWIFT payments.
          1. askort154
            askort154 2 November 2017 13: 47
            +1
            Cat Marquis ... Explain for a long time. The United States managed to subjugate the global financial system by creating not the Fed, but an "international payment system" based on the dollar currency and the "authentication system" of SWIFT payments.

            So who are the eggs and who is the chicken? Could SWIFT become international, without pumping the world with the dollar printed on the Fed’s machine? There wouldn’t be a “international” dollar, naturally, there wouldn’t be a SWIF. Maybe there would be a "golden ruble", and a WORLD map? wink
  23. askort154
    askort154 2 November 2017 12: 40
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    Quote: askort154
    Grandfather .... Well ... according to the laws of the genre, now there must be a war ... if you recall Libya and Gaddafi.

    Yeah ! And the first was De Gaulle, who demanded that France’s gold reserves be returned and the dollar tied to gold. After problems with De Gaulle, the Americans came up with the Fed system, creating a "independent" printing press. The result of the victory of the confrontation between the two systems and two super powers of the 20th century, was the "independent" Fed (with about its printing press). Anglo-Saxons outplayed (not like before, countries and regions, such as India, Australia, etc.), and most of the world, the World did not like it, but among them there are few "violent" except Russia. After "Munich -2007" , everyone froze in anticipation of how many months would pass, how the US would “tear apart” Russia, how long it would last (who is who Putin). They showed it on Milosevic, Hussein and Gaddafi. Now, all of a sudden, Trump has more trouble than Putin. In the US than in the Russian Federation. The world is slowly beginning to see clearly (created by the BRICS, SCO and T, D), that the main problem in the world today is the "policeman with the Fed dollar stick."
    I believe the 21st century is critical. Either the World will demystify the “policeman with the Fed,” or the World will cease to exist. A third is no longer given.
  24. rocket757
    rocket757 2 November 2017 13: 50
    +4
    You can, of course, proclaim - "PROLETARIANS OF ALL COUNTRIES UNITE" ... as it does not sound, out of topic and at the wrong time !!!
    Therefore, we will write a banal - "ANTI AMERICANISTS unite from all sides of the world !!!" - Not so pathetic sounds, but in fact closer to the truth.
    And the sanctions ... everyone was there, tied up and the skin "became thicker", so this is not something that people can be scared of.
    And the ruling elites ??? Well, let's see how they are against us, that is, for them ???
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  26. rocket757
    rocket757 2 November 2017 16: 06
    +3
    Quote: MadCat
    I certainly suspected that the Iranians had a slight psychosis turning into schizophrenia, but I did not think that they were so divorced from reality wassat

    They seemed to be on the wave of success, played up here, bustled under there !!!
    Self-esteem is overestimated ... however, no one has yet canceled who can really give them a shortcut for ento, although they would like to eat, but the bench - bench in one weak spot.
    We will look very closely for the development of events.
  27. Brother Karamazov
    Brother Karamazov 2 November 2017 17: 33
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    I hear moans, howl and rattle of fangs in the camp of universal man
  28. padded jacket
    padded jacket 2 November 2017 18: 29
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    And there it turns out a fairly representative delegation was possible together with Putin, and military contracts were concluded.

  29. axiles100682
    axiles100682 2 November 2017 20: 07
    +1
    Russia has the largest reserves of natural resources, one of the largest gold reserves, what kind of stupidity does the ruble exchange rate associate with the dollar? It has long been necessary to provide the ruble liquidity with gold and explored natural resources.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 2 November 2017 23: 17
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      Quote: axiles100682
      Russia has the largest reserves of natural resources, one of the largest gold reserves, what kind of stupidity does the ruble exchange rate associate with the dollar? It has long been necessary to provide the ruble liquidity with gold and explored natural resources.

      The price of a buck is more stable than the price of metal and slurry
  30. rocket757
    rocket757 2 November 2017 21: 27
    +3
    Quote: axiles100682
    Russia has the largest reserves of natural resources, one of the largest gold reserves, what kind of stupidity does the ruble exchange rate associate with the dollar? It has long been necessary to provide the ruble liquidity with gold and explored natural resources.

    Well, yes, to drive gold caravans around the world and conclude futures contracts with floating prices around the world ???
    The invention of electronic / instant money is a convenient form of mutual settlements !!! nobody will refuse it and it’s not easy to get into the basket of international currencies ... as an example of the yuan, this is an obvious example !!!
    The system will change ... who and how it will overturn, there is no way to guess, but it must be a VERY STRONG MILITARY ECONOMIC PLAYER on the world stage, or a group of identically weak states!
  31. Dark Lord
    Dark Lord 2 November 2017 22: 50
    +1
    Quote: Jedi
    Thank you Sheriff! hi
    Quote: aszzz888
    sooner or later, but cut paper will come to an end ...

    While they will shift the border of the US public debt, the Fed will stamp out unsecured pieces of paper. And this process will not be endless.

    And the ruble is not a piece of paper? Dressing? What is he so endowed with that from 34 to 60 for 3 years depreciated? 2 times ???))) since 1991 depreciates, and the campaign will depreciate. I like those who are waiting, well, when is it when he is a bastard to depreciate, and he the dog rises in price in 2! times, well, probably after the elections in Russia it will rise in price)) What are the savings to keep gold platinum real estate diamonds emeralds or antiques or maybe an Iranian piece of paper, offer a currency alternative to the dollar!
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 2 November 2017 23: 03
      +3
      For the "dark" - it will, for the "sovereign" haha, we can enroll in which classes in economics, otherwise it looks like a victim of the exam ...
      It is sad to speak for our post-Soviet economy and politics, but is it possible, but not with the same ignorance?
      There is not enough education, there is such a necessary and useful thing - SELF-EDUCATION IS CALLED!
      1. Dark Lord
        Dark Lord 2 November 2017 23: 10
        +1
        You know, I laughed at the comments, now I laugh at yours, I probably should feel my inferiority and your literacy and the great current of the unclear thoughts of a great thinker! Or take offense at you, how insulted me! Prelude, and with such an exquisite word! Start can be called in response. I have a question. Do you know if you wrote me that?
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 3 November 2017 00: 33
          +4
          That's really funny. And the exquisite calm is just for such an occasion ... you can laugh together.
          And the advice for self-education is truly generous from the bottom of my heart.
          Schaub was not tormented by what to keep his savings.
          1. Dark Lord
            Dark Lord 3 November 2017 12: 52
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            Am I tormented? I do not suffer. Baksik native, and Eureka, just not a ruble, well, him)
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 3 November 2017 13: 07
              +3
              What kind of "native" are you ... euro-baksikovy, however.
              Here are the Yakut diamonds. It would probably be patriotic.
              1. Dark Lord
                Dark Lord 3 November 2017 16: 55
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                Go to this scheme, you’ll become a relative if you have something to switch over, you certainly won’t lose it, you can add a currency, Australian or Canadian bucks)) Or redeem an exotic yuan or yen. The ruble is clearly in flight. Even the yuanchik has risen in price since the age of 14))
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 3 November 2017 19: 13
                  +3
                  Nah, this is no longer attractive .... I keep some instances of overseas money purely as a keepsake, where I had to go ... in the same box with cigars and a bottle of this ROMA.
                  And for the ruble our wooden ... what can I say. Our youngsters are "advanced", in the department, I’ve drawn such forecasts / graphs on him !!! only cataclysms and a fall does not know where ... I specially saved their forecasts and graphs in the database ... for many years, not for gloating, but to remind sometimes that thinking is not harmful, however, the knowledge, ANY, is superfluous do not happen !!!
                  To whom it went for the future, and to whom like peas on the wall ... not everyone on the "farm" flew and that was good., Some began to think.
                  What I wanted.