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Cruiser "Ukraine" ravaged a large shipbuilding enterprise

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The state enterprise “Nikolaev Shipbuilding Plant” (part of the Ukroboronprom) stopped work due to the cessation of funding for the maintenance of the cruiser “Ukraine”, the company's accounts were arrested, wage arrears - 58 million hryvnia (2,2 million dollars).

According to the press service of the enterprise, the work was stopped due to the lack of a decision of the Cabinet on the 1164 missile cruiser. The accounts of the company are arrested, wage arrears of more than 58 million hryvnia (about 2,2 million dollars). "These debts have accumulated due to the termination of the cost of the enterprise for the maintenance of the cruiser in February 2015 of the year," TASS reports the press service of the company.

It is noted that the shipyard for three years independently conducts work on the maintenance of the cruiser. Ukroboronprom sent to the government a project to resolve issues related to its demilitarization, according to which the company should be reimbursed part of the cost of maintaining the cruiser. This could pay off wage arrears.

“The lack of state support for a strategic shipbuilding enterprise in the country makes it impossible not only to get it out of crisis, but also threatens its functioning as a whole,” the press service underlines.

October 30 Ukroboronprom addressed the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council Alexander Turchinov, asking him to assist in deciding the fate of the enterprise.

The decree on the demilitarization of the cruiser "Ukraine", which has been idle for more than 33 for years at a shipbuilding plant, was signed by the president of the country, Petro Poroshenko, in March of this year. Poroshenko then suggested "to remove weapons and sell what remains." This, he believed, “is enough to compensate for wages.”

After that, the situation at the plant has not changed.

The cruiser "Ukraine" was laid down in the summer of 1984 by order of the Navy of the USSR and launched on August 11, 1990, but on October 1, 1993 it was withdrawn from the Russian fleet and transferred to the ownership of Ukraine. There were no funds for completion in Ukraine.

Nicholas Shipyard was founded in the XVIII century for the construction of ships for the Black Sea Fleet. In Soviet times, gas turbine ships and refrigerated ships were built at the plant.

In Ukraine, several enterprises experience serious problems. So, the newspaper VIEW wrote about the difficult situation on Yuzhmash.

Cruiser "Ukraine" ravaged a large shipbuilding enterprise
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  1. V. Ushakov
    V. Ushakov 1 November 2017 05: 19 New
    +8
    Why Ukrainians the Ukrainians cruiser, if they do not need Ukraine as such.
    That's right, there’s nothing to finance unnecessary projects ...
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 1 November 2017 05: 27 New
      10
      sell what remains
      The cruiser "Ukraine" and the state of Ukraine will be scrapped!
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 1 November 2017 05: 47 New
        +4
        Cruiser "Ukraine" ravaged a large shipbuilding enterprise
        you have to live within your means .. get out, use inflatable boats ...
      2. San Sanych
        San Sanych 1 November 2017 13: 17 New
        +1
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        sell what remains
        The cruiser "Ukraine" and the state of Ukraine will be scrapped!
        that the cruiser called "Ukraine", that the state itself (not before), under that name, Svidomo an excessive burden - is a fact!
    2. Evdokim
      Evdokim 1 November 2017 06: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: V. Ushakov
      Why Ukrainians cruiser "Ukraine",

      Why Ukraine "Ukraine". laughing
    3. 210ox
      210ox 1 November 2017 07: 40 New
      +5
      Here he is an example of a clear-cut proverb — you want to ruin the “banana republic” —– give the cruiser ... Hoopoes .. Even could not contain ..
      Quote: V. Ushakov
      Why Ukrainians the Ukrainians cruiser, if they do not need Ukraine as such.
      That's right, there’s nothing to finance unnecessary projects ...
  2. Knowing
    Knowing 1 November 2017 05: 54 New
    +5
    They have the strategy of a "mosquito-mosquito fleet", for THEIR cruiser, yesterday ... And in general:
  3. nivander
    nivander 1 November 2017 06: 49 New
    +1
    put on needles
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 November 2017 07: 04 New
    0
    If in 90's in Ukraine something was called the fleet, today they should forget this concept. And the company is likely to go bankrupt for sale for a penny.
    1. MOSKVITYANIN
      MOSKVITYANIN 2 November 2017 23: 24 New
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      If in 90's in Ukraine something was called the fleet, today they should forget this concept. And the company is likely to go bankrupt for sale for a penny.

      Well and good, the EU will be less than one competitor for us and our beloved Ukraine ...
  5. svp67
    svp67 1 November 2017 07: 07 New
    +3
    It is a pity that this cruiser cannot "accidentally" "float away" into neutral waters ...
    1. MOSKVITYANIN
      MOSKVITYANIN 2 November 2017 23: 23 New
      0
      Quote: svp67
      It is a pity that this cruiser cannot "accidentally" "float away" into neutral waters ...

      why the hell is this needed, even for nothing, it was laid for the ocean fleet, and not for the KChF and especially the Navy, for launching, he and the former RSFSR were not needed ... and larger ships were withdrawn from the naval forces or drank it for scrap ....
      1. svp67
        svp67 3 November 2017 00: 49 New
        0
        Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
        why the hell is this needed, even for nothing, it was laid for the ocean fleet, and not for the KChF and especially the Navy, for launching, he and the former RSFSR were not needed ... and larger ships were withdrawn from the naval forces or drank it for scrap ....

        This cruiser is a complete analogue, or as the British say, "Sister Ship" to our flagship KChF, the cruiser "Moscow" and KTOF "Varyag", and its turbines could be useful for replacing worn from our ships.
        1. MOSKVITYANIN
          MOSKVITYANIN 3 November 2017 01: 01 New
          +1
          svp67 This cruiser is a complete analogue, or as the British say, "Sister Ship" to our flagship KChF, the cruiser "Moscow" and KTOF "Varyag"

          "Thank you" I am in the courses ...
          For me it would be better if this damn cruiser "Ukraine" wasted to the needles than the aircraft-carrying cruiser "Moscow", in the Mediterranean it would be useful now, as part of a squadron ... or at the Pacific Fleet along with the same "Novorossiysk" ...
  6. Per se.
    Per se. 1 November 2017 07: 40 New
    +8
    If they had been advised, both Varyag and Ukraine could have been bought out, completed. The Chinese aircraft carrier was dragged altogether to another part of the world, as far as the Far East, and, completed, they were introduced into the fleet. We even managed to lose the Gorshkov, if it were not for the issue of modernization, in general the ship was given to the Indians in addition to the sold MiG-29. Who was punished for this "ingenious" action? I remember that at that time the media was actively spinning a record on the topic of "uselessness of aircraft carriers", and tearfully about the price of a national penny, when hundreds of billions flowed offshore. Personally, I feel sorry for the cruiser, it was necessary to introduce it into the Russian Navy, not only as a warship, the 1 ship of rank necessary for us, but also for political reasons, in terms of propaganda, Russia bought Ukraine. Would leave the existing name of the cruiser, or changed to "Chervona Ukraine", in memory of the Black Sea cruiser of the Second World War, in extreme cases, would be "Admiral Lobov", under which name it was laid in the USSR.
    1. novel66
      novel66 1 November 2017 09: 16 New
      +7
      the ship is really sorry, it would have to plow open spaces, and it rots at the wall. not even christian
      1. Sharansky
        Sharansky 1 November 2017 12: 54 New
        +1
        And what does the Christian canon have about rotting ships? I remember about "do not make yourself an idol." The piece of iron rots and rots.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 1 November 2017 23: 04 New
          +1
          Quote: Sharansky
          And what does the Christian canon have about rotting ships?

          Christianity it is - to every barrel plug.
      2. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 1 November 2017 18: 50 New
        +6
        Quote: novel xnumx
        and it rots against the wall. not even christian

        That's right, wounded animals cannot be left - according to Christianity there would be a torpedo below the waterline yes
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 1 November 2017 23: 04 New
          +2
          Quote: Pete Mitchell
          That's right, wounded animals cannot be left - according to Christianity there would be a torpedo below the waterline

          Is there enough depth at the berth?
          1. Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell 2 November 2017 10: 30 New
            +7
            Quote: Setrac
            Quote: Pete Mitchell
            Christianly it would be a torpedo below the waterline

            Is there enough depth at the berth?

            Here’s a mess, I didn’t think about it. But on the other hand, it’s very symbolic: a torpedo for the Ukraine cruiser, and he’s not even able to go to the bottom ...
      3. sailor52
        1 November 2017 21: 40 New
        0
        it is a pity for the strength and health of hundreds of thousands of people throughout the Union who created and built this ships of this project ...
      4. Grits
        Grits 2 November 2017 09: 55 New
        +2
        At one time, Russia offered to pick it up for free. But Ukrainians, they are such Ukrainians - miserliness - this is their national trait.
    2. zoolu350
      zoolu350 1 November 2017 09: 35 New
      +3
      The oligarch of the Russian Federation is not the CPC of the PRC, he cannot do such projects, because suddenly the "respected partners" will be offended and will impose more sanctions.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 1 November 2017 10: 00 New
        +7
        Quote: zoolu350
        The oligarch of the Russian Federation is not the CPC of the PRC, he cannot do such projects, because suddenly the "respected partners" will be offended and will impose sanctions

        Yaw? laughing
        Here, just recently, the DPL is alone in Syria in the barmels of Caliber ... trained.
        Quote: B-268 “Veliky Novgorod”

        The cost of $ 300 million (in 2009 prices)
        Construction started October 30 2014
        Launched March 18, 2016
        Transferred to the fleet October 26 2016

        And this is quite “within the power”, as you like expressions, to the “oligarchy of the Russian Federation” yes
        To finish building a senseless Ukraine - what has not decayed is stolen already.
        Like this request
        1. zoolu350
          zoolu350 1 November 2017 10: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: Golovan Jack

          Quote: B-268 “Veliky Novgorod”

          The cost of $ 300 million (in 2009 prices)
          Construction started October 30 2014
          Launched March 18, 2016
          Transferred to the fleet October 26 2016

          And this is quite “within the power”, as you like expressions, to the “oligarchy of the Russian Federation” yes
          To finish building a senseless Ukraine - what has not decayed is stolen already.
          Like this request

          And 10 years ago, the cruiser was clearly in the best condition and why did not the HPP happen at that time? DEPL and cruiser were compared. The wretched serf of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation, it is not possible to whitewash the owners in any way.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 1 November 2017 10: 46 New
            +7
            Quote: zoolu350
            And 10 years ago, the cruiser was clearly in the best condition ...

            Yeah ... and a hundred years ago - he finally wasn’t in the project laughing
            Quote: zoolu350
            ... why didn't HPP happen at that time?

            Do you have memory lapses? The Internet is at your service. Do I need to ask military questions? fool
            Quote: zoolu350
            Compare DEPL and cruiser

            Ahem ... There are more than one DPL ...

            And that’s just DPL, by the way. There are many other things besides them yes
            Hold on to laugh wink
            1. zoolu350
              zoolu350 1 November 2017 12: 12 New
              +2
              Quote: Golovan Jack

              Do you have memory lapses? The Internet is at your service. Do I need to ask military questions? fool

              And again the drain. Kicking you is a real pleasure!
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 1 November 2017 13: 08 New
                +7
                Quote: zoolu350
                And drain again

                Troll-I-I-Yaashka tongue Sweet such a little animal laughing
                1. zoolu350
                  zoolu350 1 November 2017 13: 20 New
                  +3
                  The animal is on your profile picture, moreover, in the subject, for you have direct dog devotion to the oligarchy of the Russian Federation.
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 1 November 2017 13: 49 New
                    +8
                    Quote: zoolu350
                    The animal in your profile picture ...

                    Do not cling on. This is the best animal ... since mine yes
                    Quote: zoolu350
                    ... you have direct dog devotion to the oligarchy of the Russian Federation

                    Only in your inflamed brain ... I am neither for white nor red.
                    But your attempts to watch me really funny ... go on, go on laughing
              2. Setrac
                Setrac 1 November 2017 23: 08 New
                +1
                Quote: zoolu350
                And again the drain.

                Does jargon for children not bother you?
          2. Setrac
            Setrac 1 November 2017 23: 07 New
            0
            Quote: zoolu350
            And 10 years ago, the cruiser was clearly in the best condition, and why did not the HPP happen at that time?

            Like now, and ten years ago - subcontractors remained abroad.
            1. zoolu350
              zoolu350 3 November 2017 05: 05 New
              0
              Quote: Setrac
              Like now, and ten years ago - subcontractors remained abroad.

              So what? Ten years ago, with these overseas allies, the question was not so acute.
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 3 November 2017 21: 19 New
                0
                Quote: zoolu350
                So what? Ten years ago, with these overseas allies, the question was not so acute.

                Why so? Even as it was acute.
  7. Homer_J_Simpson
    Homer_J_Simpson 1 November 2017 08: 45 New
    +3
    What do you call a yacht, so it will sail!
  8. captain
    captain 1 November 2017 09: 29 New
    +1
    As the saying goes; I won’t eat, so I bite.
  9. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 1 November 2017 10: 48 New
    +2
    Galloped horses. A rusty and rotten cruiser, this is symbolic for the collapse of the eponymous non-state.
    1. Sharansky
      Sharansky 1 November 2017 14: 23 New
      +1
      You do not seem to imagine the consequences of the collapse, as you put it, "under-state." All sorts of Syria and Chechnya seem like babble.
      1. bratchanin3
        bratchanin3 2 November 2017 07: 58 New
        +1
        Perhaps I am mistaken, but the collapse of the Nazi state with the population - “moyahataskrai” is much better than this prosperous state. We all know how the prosperous fascist Germany ended for the World. Of the two evils, the smallest is chosen. And the collapse of the Nazis is nothing terrible for Russia, especially since it has already collapsed (but has not yet collapsed) and cho .....?
  10. faiver
    faiver 1 November 2017 12: 08 New
    0
    ours offered to be sold for a symbolic price plus attendants for restoration repair to the Nikolaev factory, but no - the dog is in the manger, I’ll not eat it myself and I won’t let others ...
  11. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 1 November 2017 12: 37 New
    +1
    remove weapons and sell what remains


    Poroshenko is not opposed; it means that we are organizing in an organized way the hungry, wage-free workers with grinders - and each one cuts himself pieces in proportion to the amount of the debt. It is also advisable to pick up metal buyers organized. laughing
    1. zoolu350
      zoolu350 1 November 2017 13: 14 New
      +1
      Better to let China sell them for needles. And the cruiser "Mao" will be in the Navy of China.
      1. Gormenghast
        Gormenghast 1 November 2017 13: 17 New
        0
        Unfortunately, no better. sad Because non-payment of salaries - in Russia and in Ukraine, I consider one of the most heinous economic crimes. Even Marx and Engels did not think of such a thing - their bourgeoisie only appropriated surplus value, and not the entire salary! am
        1. zoolu350
          zoolu350 1 November 2017 13: 26 New
          +4
          So the oligarchy of the Russian Federation and ukroreikh in every way defeat the hateful doctrine described in "Capital". As it says there: "If raw materials fall in price, then the product from raw materials also becomes cheaper," but none ...... the oligarchy said and when the price of oil fell, it raised the price of gasoline.
  12. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 1 November 2017 14: 27 New
    +1
    that do not give them - everyone will expel
  13. Grits
    Grits 2 November 2017 10: 03 New
    +2
    Unfortunately, now he doesn’t need anyone.
    The Chinese bought the Varangian, since there is practically no weapons there - this is an airfield. And the entire cruiser is imprisoned for the installation of weapons. Besides the Soviet. But now there is no need to put “Granites” on it (Volcanoes, basalts), there is no need to install quite outdated anti-aircraft missile weapons, plus electronics and radar to them. If you put something new, it means throwing away half of everything that is now there and completely redoing the ship. It will be easier to build a new one.