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Russia is prevented from going forward the Soviet past: the opinions of a journalist and a psychiatrist

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«Страдая» от historical «травм», российское общество отказывается исцеляться, считает журналист Иво Мийнсен. В итоге русские сами себе ставят палки в колёса и не могут создать образ будущего страны.



The victim of the Soviet repression 1930's. Rostov region. Photo: http://www.globallookpress.com


Russian society suffers from historical injuries, while refusing to recover, quotes the site "InoTV" the newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung. Suppressing bad memories of the black pages of their history and believing in a “heroic epic” imposed by the authorities, the Russians themselves prevent the formation of the image of the future.

The traumas of the Soviet past are hindering today's Russia from moving forward, according to journalist Ivo Miynsen. In dealing with its own past, Russian society behaves like a “traumatized victim,” the author of the article in the Neue Zürcher Zeitung believes.

“From 1929 to 1953,” he notes, “the Soviet government sent out camps or expelled the order of 24 to millions of its citizens, many of them did not survive this.” Later, the victims of this terror were rehabilitated. But, however, memories of the events of that era continue to be suppressed in the country. However, in Moscow they open a monument to the memory of victims of political repression. And most of the cost of creating the monument took the state. The author quotes Vladimir Lukin, a historian and a member of Yabloko: “It’s good that the state finally took up this task.

Meanwhile, Ivo Miinsen has no doubt that Russia is still struggling to cope with its “cruel past.” He lists the tragic events in the history of Russia: the First World War, then the revolution, followed by civil war, then collectivization, famine, the “Great Terror” and the Second World War. Millions died. Finally, the collapse of the USSR in 1991 led to another crisis. And so far the Russians have failed to cope with these injuries, Mynnsen is convinced. He cites the words of the psychiatrist Judit Herman as an argument: she is sure that not only an individual, but the whole society can suffer from injuries. People experience the past as if its events are constantly repeated in the present. And such a model of behavior can have political consequences: for example, the government of such a country reacts absolutely irrationally to external threats (imaginary).

Another "example" in the article is one of the events of recent years: the "annexation" of the Crimea. It was she who revealed the whole scale of the problem: the Kremlin explained the annexation of the peninsula by “historical affiliation”. Mininsen comments on it this way: “a bold prank” made Putin popular in Russia, but led to the country's international isolation, and strength turned into weakness!

Summarizing, the author notes: the monument to the memory of victims of political repression is an encouraging step on the path to reconciliation with the past. True, this is not enough: Stalinism and nostalgia for the USSR still exist.

Enlightened Europe, we add, is already ready to make Russia a clinical diagnosis. Remotely. Already a media psychiatrist hired. However, earlier European psychiatrists diagnosed Donald Trump, and the American - George W. Bush. They love psychiatry in the West. This is a hobby.

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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 31 October 2017 08: 02 New
    32
    They love psychiatry in the West. This is a hobby.
    What is. That is. But in general. Yes, they went to three fun letters.
    1. Logall
      Logall 31 October 2017 08: 05 New
      49
      Such opinions hinder Russia from going forward! Especially if they come from fellow citizens ... But the Soviet past, the Soviet backlog, did not let Russia disappear into the nineties!
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 31 October 2017 08: 16 New
        19
        How long will our enemies teach us in THEIR own interests? 1 Probably, all their lives!
        Miinsen comments on this: a “bold trick” made Putin popular in Russia, but led to the country's international isolation, and strength turned into weakness!
        And even without Crimea from the West, to the international isolation of Russia, everything went to that! For a strong Russia does not need the West!
        The West wants to mercilessly exploit Russia and tear it to shreds. And the West does not like the resistance from Russia itself.
        So different journalists in the West criticize Russia for the purpose of manipulating its public opinion inside the country - the Russian Federation - in their Western favor and their interests!
        As the saying goes - Pity the wolf to the mare - left the tail, but the mane!
        1. Logall
          Logall 31 October 2017 08: 39 New
          17
          This garbage has gone since the time of Ivan the Terrible! And while the hallmarks on the foreheads of the West will not itch, it will never end ...
          1. cniza
            cniza 31 October 2017 08: 46 New
            10
            We are the number one enemy for them, we must realize this and not hope that they will change, on the basis of this we should build our future, and our past, whatever it is, we will never forget it.
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 31 October 2017 09: 05 New
              10
              Quote: cniza
              and the past is ours, whatever it is, we will never forget it.

              And even more so, we will not rewrite, like some. yes
              1. Logall
                Logall 31 October 2017 09: 11 New
                11
                Everything has already been rewritten, up to us! It is not known how long the truth will have to be restored ...
                1. Jedi
                  Jedi 31 October 2017 09: 15 New
                  +8
                  It’s like in a computer: deleted data is easiest to recover immediately after deletion. But if you write new data on top of the deleted ones, the recovery process is complicated many times over.
                  1. japs
                    japs 31 October 2017 10: 29 New
                    +9
                    They started to “format” us back in the 90s. Until now, they will not calm down.
                    I am "terribly interested" in the opinion of foreign "experts" in OUR history.
                    They would walk along the forest ... in company with the Akhejakovs and Solzhenitsyn.
                    1. Jedi
                      Jedi 31 October 2017 10: 35 New
                      +6
                      Quote: japs
                      They would walk along the forest ... in company with the Akhejakovs and Solzhenitsyn.

                      The direction indicated is correct. A small clarification: a swampy forest.
                      1. Served once
                        Served once 1 November 2017 11: 28 New
                        +1
                        And under the strict guidance of Citizen Susanin ... laughing
                  2. Yuyuka
                    Yuyuka 31 October 2017 11: 13 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Jedi
                    It’s like in a computer: deleted data is easiest to recover immediately after deletion. But if you write new data on top of the deleted ones, the recovery process is complicated many times over.


                    Now these records are not being deleted, they are being corrected and the accents are arranged differently ... everything seems to be right, they are telling the truth, but a couple of bars - “completely by chance new data suddenly appear” or an expert will get out some thread - as is the case with Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya. It seems to be a feat, but something with her mental health was not right belay Or - yes, the Germans were defeated, but at what cost? people were not spared, it was possible more accurately ... Such "new views" are much more dangerous hi
                    1. Jedi
                      Jedi 31 October 2017 11: 16 New
                      +7
                      hi
                      The information seems to be the same, but watered with a different sauce. In the way of presenting information in the right way, the West has become more sophisticated, Goebbels’s case lives on. yes
                      1. Talgat
                        Talgat 1 November 2017 02: 56 New
                        +2
                        Russia is unfortunately struck by Western propaganda. And what remains healthy in it is all from the USSR
                2. cniza
                  cniza 31 October 2017 09: 17 New
                  +3
                  Nothing, we will do our job and build as we want, and let them keep their howls and reasoning.
                3. walking along the trail
                  walking along the trail 31 October 2017 10: 35 New
                  +5
                  Even under Mikhailo Lomonosov it began - the Germans rewrote the history of the Rusov not frailly. Lomonosov was nearly executed because of them; as a result, there is almost no open information about pre-Christian Russia.
            2. Warrior with machine gun
              Warrior with machine gun 31 October 2017 11: 37 New
              +5
              and these psychiatrists talk about “forget your past”, what is the past? in which their ancestors came to their ancestors to kill, for example, bite them bite !!! here after such forgetfulness the country has no future, so let them repent of their sins.
        2. Uncle
          Uncle 31 October 2017 20: 49 New
          +2
          Quote: Tatiana
          And even without Crimea from the West, to the international isolation of Russia, everything went to that

          Let me remind you that the Russo-Japanese War was under conditions of isolation of Russia. For example, our ships were bunkered when they went to Tsushima.
      2. Berber
        Berber 31 October 2017 09: 14 New
        +5
        The question is different - which of us is sick? Or is it LGBT healthy people?
      3. Topotun
        Topotun 31 October 2017 09: 45 New
        +2
        Yes, and allowed to survive to this time. We still live on the achievements of the USSR.
      4. Evgeny Strygin
        Evgeny Strygin 31 October 2017 22: 31 New
        +1
        exist solely at the expense of him to this day. And literally in all areas of life.
        It will end and it seems that it will not become us. Or what happens will be so creepy that I would not want to live to see it.
    2. Finches
      Finches 31 October 2017 08: 20 New
      +3
      Miinsen - whose clown will be? Herman is his attending physician, apparently ...laughing
      1. nikolaev
        nikolaev 31 October 2017 08: 41 New
        +4
        Yeah! healed visible. And what else to expect from the HER man? With such a surname you will not get those complexes yet! And then you will have an unhealthy effect on patients.
        Russia is a great country and its history is Great! And perhaps the most significant and great part of history is the Soviet Union.
      2. Nasrat
        Nasrat 31 October 2017 08: 47 New
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        "From 1929 to 1953," he notes, "the Soviet government sent about 24 million of its citizens to camps or exiles, many of them did not survive this."


        Where do these numbers come from? Well, at least not 100500 million repressed ...
        24 million !!!!!!!! Who then fought then? And he went on the attack with the words - For the homeland! For Stalin! ???



        War, traitors, deserters, provocateurs, OUN, UPA, Baltic forest brothers, looters and other things to ignore - are included in these figures
        1. walking along the trail
          walking along the trail 31 October 2017 10: 46 New
          +3
          for the sake of objectivity, "for Stalin" there was no such cry - the grandfather of the front-line soldier said that they all came up with this in the cinema. With such a cry, the units were not raised in the Second World War. "For the Motherland" - was a cry. Nevertheless, the role of I.V.S. huge in the formation of Soviet Russia and the victory over our enemies.
          1. Lycan
            Lycan 31 October 2017 12: 04 New
            0
            You want, I guess - they fled to the attack with matyugami!
          2. Seal
            Seal 31 October 2017 12: 30 New
            +6
            Eye of the Planet. 21-12-2012 11:51:XNUMX
            For the motherland! For Stalin! - what living witnesses say - war veterans.

            Fortunately, many more veterans are still alive. And, fortunately, there are people who want to know the truth and ask different questions to these veterans. They do interviews, post them on the Internet. Let’s see what live witnesses say - war veterans.

            1. Sysenko Alexander Stepanovich

            - As I understand from your story, in the battles for the height of 905 you had to rise to the attack. Tell me: how did you feel? Did they shout “For the Motherland!” For Stalin "?
            - I have had to get up to attack more than once. What was the feeling? Only one thing: ours takes. They thought: if it’s necessary, then it’s necessary. And about the screams "For the Motherland, For Stalin!" - this was as much as you want. All the time with these names went into battle.


            2. Dementiev Nikolay Ivanovich

            - What was your attitude to Stalin, the party?
            - We were convinced that we would win, while Stalin had a very good attitude. And when they went on the attack, we always shouted: "For Stalin! For the Motherland! Forward!" Near Odessa, we shouted: “Half-a-half! For the Motherland, for Stalin, go ahead!”

            3. Ivanov Alexey Petrovich

            “So this woman, when she heard such conversations, jumped out of the house and started shouting straight at the foot soldiers:“ Where are you running to such people! Who are you throwing wounded comrades at? ” And it turned out to be so unexpected that everyone stopped, and as if a current ran along the human chain. At that moment, some captain, well done, correctly orientated himself, shouted: "For the Motherland, for Stalin!", And everyone immediately turned around and went back to a height. "

            4. Kinyaev Alexander Petrovich

            -A few questions about your short stay at the front. When you were attacking under the White Church, what were your feelings? “For the motherland, for Stalin” shouted?
            - With this exclamation, it all started. When, after we ate porridge, they lined us up, gave us weapons and led us on the attack, someone shouted: “For the Motherland! For Stalin !" And how everyone ran forward after that! I had only one thought in my head: “If only not to lag behind, how not to lag behind.” Such was the rise because of this. And there was absolutely no fear. Nothing! Do you understand? Stalin was very fond of.


            5.Derevyankin Nikolay Andreevich
            -And you shouted “For Stalin!”?
            -Shouted. It turns out to be a tradition. Rather, in the tsarist army they also shouted. Only one word: there “For the Tsar!”, And here “For Stalin!” When, I somehow ... They showed ... I say: "Duck, we yelled the same thing." Only one word was changed. How is it ... "For faith ..." In general, the last word of the "king" we began to shout "For Stalin!" And more, of course, obscenities ...


            6. Baldin Alexander Fedorovich
            “Well, what were you fighting for?”
            - For Mother Russia, for the Motherland, for Stalin, forward. So on the tower it was written in white, white: "For the Motherland, for Stalin!"

            7. Kudryavtsev Alexey Mikhailovich
            -How did you feel about Stalin during the war?
            -Positively. Whoever says anything, but we had it. I myself wrote on shells "For Stalin!" And so, by the way, I didn’t do it alone.
            .......

            75. Mamutov Amza Amzaevich

            - How do you feel about Stalin, the party?
            - During the war, Stalin was a law for me, I shouted: “Go! For the motherland! For Stalin !" I fled with these words in my time into battle. I do not blame Stalin for anything; I was a member of the party. But I can’t figure out why I risk my life on the fronts, and my relatives are being expelled from Crimea. My father was also a party man, although he was an ordinary collective farmer. But it was not Stalin’s business, others were ill-smokers.

          3. badens1111
            badens1111 1 November 2017 14: 02 New
            0
            Quote: walking along the trail
            for the sake of objectivity

            You do not refer to the imaginary grandfather, as a "reminiscence" srakhu name two cheap in their deceit film-man Shtrafbat and
            Odysseys of pseudo-Yaira PUGACHEVA .... you will be believed THOSE WHO SUCH FELLOWS AS YOU ARE DISTRIBUTED.
            Full of shots = For Stalin, full of memories both in publications and in memory from fought relatives, so lie to Fedotov and his abominable company.
        2. Lycan
          Lycan 31 October 2017 12: 09 New
          0
          Paper is great.
          But then the next layer is the "map" of repressed peoples and deportations from Siberia in anticipation of the war. So try to explain to them what it is for.
          Of course, when touching on this topic, the interlocutors (the descendants of the deportees and those who returned) with foam at the mouth declare that their ancestors had nothing to expel. But there were expulsions.
          1. Warrior with machine gun
            Warrior with machine gun 31 October 2017 14: 03 New
            +6
            so that these “repressed” do not hit in the back (as was the case in Austria, Norway, France, etc., where the fifth column joyfully greeted deutsche), everyone doesn’t like to remember it like an amerzot with the outbreak of war rolled up their citizens of Japanese descent to concentration camps (no matter whether they were guilty of something or not), and now they are blowing ears of everyone about human rights (scum with many faces).
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 31 October 2017 16: 01 New
              +5
              From the notes of the US ambassador to the USSR Joseph E. Davis (1937-38)

              “Today we know, thanks to the efforts of the FBI, that Hitler’s agents acted everywhere, even in the United States and South America. German entry into Prague was accompanied by active support from the Helena military organizations. The same thing happened in Norway (Quisling), Slovakia (Tiso), Belgium (de Grell) ... However, we do not see anything like this in Russia. "Where are the Russian accomplices of Hitler?" - they ask me often. “They were shot,” I reply.
              Only now are you beginning to realize how far-sighted the Soviet government did during the years of purges. Then I was shocked by the unceremoniousness and even rudeness with which the Soviet authorities closed the consulates of Italy and Germany throughout the country, in spite of any diplomatic complications. It was hard to believe in official explanations that mission personnel were involved in subversive activities. At that time, we argued a lot in our circle about the struggle for power in the Kremlin leadership, but as life has shown, we were sitting "in the wrong boat."
              1. Lycan
                Lycan 31 October 2017 17: 41 New
                0
                Thank you. But...
                Tens of thousands of separately considered. countries http://lnvm.lv/en/?page_id=665
                Are they all really Hitler’s agents?

                And small children - why? Clearly, they did not want to be separated from their parents. And what - all the same, too, to Siberia?
                1. badens1111
                  badens1111 1 November 2017 14: 03 New
                  0
                  Quote: Lycan
                  And small children - why? Clearly, they did not want to be separated from their parents. And what - all the same, too, to Siberia?

                  Tear down a tear?
                  1. Lycan
                    Lycan 1 November 2017 19: 16 New
                    0
                    No, it's just an aggravating fact. Aggravating relations between Russians and Latvians in the historical and political environment. In it, as can be determined by its content, for the most part only mutual reproaches appear instead of a constructive dialogue. And in addition to the "occupation", the trump card is the expulsion of the indigenous population, in whose innocence (to the potential assistance to the invaders) their descendants are convinced. And, alas, the Russians of Latvia will not get out of this “trump card” for lack of reinforced concrete facts. And with a loud objection, the legislation and the punishment prescribed in it work:
                    http://rus.tvnet.lv/novosti/obschjestvo/173594-za
                    _opravdanie_deportatsii_zhurnalist_poluchil_60_ch
                    asov_prinuditelnykh_rabot
                    https://lenta.ru/news/2014/05/15/occupy/
                    1. badens1111
                      badens1111 1 November 2017 19: 25 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Lycan
                      And, alas, from this "trump card"

                      I do not play with marked cards and I do not advise you.
                      It was precisely those who were smeared in cooperation with the same Hitlerites who were expelled from the Baltic countries. So the groans of the “victims”, all sorts of Kiteselites and Aizsargs, as well as unfinished Essovians with Nazi natsivnos of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia are of little concern to me.
                      1. Lycan
                        Lycan 1 November 2017 20: 31 New
                        0
                        Quote: badens1111
                        so that the groans of "victims", all sorts of kiteselites and aizsargs, as well as unfinished essays with national coats of legion lithuania, latvia and estonia are of little concern to me.

                        How gratifying that sir, it does not touch you in any place. However, this worries ~ 26% of the population of Latvia who are Russians (government website: http://www.pmlp.gov.lv/lv/assets/documents/Iedziv
                        otaju% 20re% C4% A3istrs / 010717 / ISPN_Pasvaldibas_pec
                        _TTB.pdf).
                        And in view of the fact that the goal of transferring all Russian schools to Latvian is being discussed very energetically. lang - the Russians of Latvia, in the absence of iron counterarguments against historical events (or even myths), do not have a remedy against genocide. It’s great that you feel violet, but assimilation of Russians into Latvian society is a gloomy process. Your potential piece of the population languishes like a minority, losing in quantity under the influence of linguistic and nationalist inquisitors.
                        Quote: badens1111
                        I do not play with marked cards and I do not advise you.

                        When you are “hunted down” with crowbar for incorrect language skills - you don’t spit on scrap that “it’s supposedly speckled”. Scrap is sensitive, like those "trump cards" that you can have - and live, and not have - and gradually die out.
                        PS: Well, the final question - do you (Russia) need the "guides" of Russian civilization in the near abroad?
                        If it is violet (that is, its own economical + military potential for such purposes is enough), then the question is closed. We die, and then grass does not grow.
                        If necessary, draw conclusions.
          2. Andrey Sukharev
            Andrey Sukharev 1 November 2017 06: 00 New
            +1
            And yet, the figure of 24 million was taken simply from the ceiling back in the days of comrade Gorbachev with his relatives ...
    3. Antianglosax
      Antianglosax 31 October 2017 09: 25 New
      +4
      Has the VO site become a message board for degenerates and schizophrenics?
    4. Vend
      Vend 31 October 2017 09: 57 New
      +1
      The Soviet past still divides Russia into two camps. So it’s not so and it’s not true.
      1. water
        water 31 October 2017 21: 56 New
        +3
        Quote: Wend
        The Soviet past still divides Russia into two camps. So it’s not so and it’s not true

        No, not the Soviet past divides people into two camps. They are divided by modernity. They are divided by the level of wealth. And everything else is just camouflage problems.
        1. Vend
          Vend 1 November 2017 10: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: watermark
          Quote: Wend
          The Soviet past still divides Russia into two camps. So it’s not so and it’s not true

          No, not the Soviet past divides people into two camps. They are divided by modernity. They are divided by the level of wealth. And everything else is just camouflage problems.

          Well, if you look from this side, then the same problems were in the 1917 year, in the 1990 year. Let's look at things directly, although history does not tolerate fantasies, but if there were no revolutions in the 1917 year, then Russia would go on its own and follow the capitalist path. The first two revolutions failed to create a viable structure; the Bolsheviks did this. So it is precisely the Soviet past that divides the country into two camps. It is time to try on the fact that there will be no return either to Russia until the 1917 year, or to the USSR. And live in modern realities.
          1. water
            water 1 November 2017 13: 54 New
            +3
            If you accept your reasoning algorithm, then the emergence in Russia of E. Pugachev, S. Razin, and other riots and troubles becomes absolutely incomprehensible.
            Fantasy should not be. You need to calmly and not biased look at the history. And then it becomes quite clear that the division of people into warring parties occurs only for socio-economic reasons. But when these two, and possibly more, camps became apparent in society, then each side has an ideology, society begins to “boil” and 1917 year comes.
            It must be assumed that the task of the authorities is precisely to prevent an open conflict between the opposing sides leading to a drop in the socio-economic level and a change in the socio-political foundations of the state.
            1. badens1111
              badens1111 1 November 2017 14: 10 New
              0
              Quote: watermark
              the task of the authorities is precisely to prevent an open conflict between the warring parties leading to a fall in the socio-economic level and a change in the socio-political foundations of the state.

              If that were the case, then not the absolute majority in their belt would tighten the straps, like a munch about the crisis, while a handful are chewing and choking on buns.
              A TRILLION of bucks, for three years, the fattening people have taken out of the country, what’s the name? The figure is voiced in one of the TV shows, one wonders if it’s for these very reasons that the whole performance is arranged, it’s the tops, all the roots are rotten, they’re weeping, like on Monday they show that everything is so serious, everything is so repressed-repressed that it’s readable on physicists, it’s harder to carry the life from table to table in life ... but anyway ... they say oh, ah, oh oh, repressions and fairytales tell us that millions of trilliards are repressed and turn out to be innocent white-bushy?
              So somehow you can’t see the attempt to what you said ...
            2. Vend
              Vend 1 November 2017 14: 35 New
              +1
              Quote: watermark
              If you accept your reasoning algorithm, then the emergence in Russia of E. Pugachev, S. Razin, and other riots and troubles becomes absolutely incomprehensible.

              It was in the history of all countries, peoples. eras, inequality cannot be avoided. Dreams of communism in reality are possible only with the suppression of the human self. Talent, artistic abilities, etc.
              1. water
                water 2 November 2017 13: 11 New
                +2
                It seems that inequality is inherent in the very nature of people. After all, all people are different: smart, stupid, generous, greedy, beautiful, vile .... All these are people. I believe that it is precisely this natural inequality that leads humanity along the path of progressive development.
                And if we want development without troubles, riots and revolutions, then we cannot allow the now existing “going through the roof”, namely the class, and therefore - inequality in all spheres of life. After all, it crosses out the concept of justice. This means that in society antogonism nurtures the resolution of which can be either a “revolution from above” or a Russian rebellion “meaningless and merciless”. And if I would like the first. That second will really plunge us into the Stone Age.
                Thus, everything rests on Power. Where she leads, that will be.
                1. Vend
                  Vend 2 November 2017 13: 24 New
                  +1
                  Quote: watermark
                  It seems that inequality is inherent in the very nature of people. After all, all people are different: smart, stupid, generous, greedy, beautiful, vile .... All these are people. I believe that it is precisely this natural inequality that leads humanity along the path of progressive development.
                  And if we want development without troubles, riots and revolutions, then we cannot allow the now existing “going through the roof”, namely the class, and therefore - inequality in all spheres of life. After all, it crosses out the concept of justice. This means that in society antogonism nurtures the resolution of which can be either a “revolution from above” or a Russian rebellion “meaningless and merciless”. And if I would like the first. That second will really plunge us into the Stone Age.
                  Thus, everything rests on Power. Where she leads, that will be.

                  That’s the whole point - PEOPLE. Not a system, a country or an era, but people define inequality. And the attempt to equalize people in Soviet times, only led to a large number of criminal cases (farmers, guilds, etc.). And in the power of any period of Russia, there were different people. And Peter I raised Russia, but how many people died in the shipyards. urban planning and so on. The head of the country or the system cannot be unambiguous and evaluated unambiguously. There are always at least two sides.
                  1. water
                    water 2 November 2017 23: 38 New
                    +2
                    The Communists called people the masses. The current merchants are called the electorate. However, as they say: "horseradish radish is not sweeter." And although the number of criminal cases in Soviet times was slightly less than in Russia since 1993, the Union fell apart because it was “rotted” primarily by the Government. She (the Power) is doing the same thing now - it rots with taste, ignoring the electorate. Until now, she has managed to hold onto the situation. But this is only thanks to Putin. It seems that if Putin leaves, the redistribution of property will begin - because the rich want to become even richer, this is a disease.
                    Thus, it becomes clear that all the talk about the “difficult Soviet past” is only a screen for the redistribution of property being prepared by the rich. And property under capitalism is a derivative of Power.
                    1. Vend
                      Vend 3 November 2017 08: 55 New
                      +1
                      Quote: watermark
                      The Communists called people the masses. The current merchants are called the electorate. However, as they say: "horseradish radish is not sweeter." And although the number of criminal cases in Soviet times was slightly less than in Russia since 1993, the Union fell apart because it was “rotted” primarily by the Government. She (the Power) is doing the same thing now - it rots with taste, ignoring the electorate. Until now, she has managed to hold onto the situation. But this is only thanks to Putin. It seems that if Putin leaves, the redistribution of property will begin - because the rich want to become even richer, this is a disease.
                      Thus, it becomes clear that all the talk about the “difficult Soviet past” is only a screen for the redistribution of property being prepared by the rich. And property under capitalism is a derivative of Power.

                      I agree. What can you do, you need to create a "human institution."
    5. Maz
      Maz 31 October 2017 10: 18 New
      0
      Dude is able to find both the title and the articles themselves. I read the name and immediately check the signature - Dude? Exactly Dude. Eagle. And the Article itself can not be read.
  2. Pups
    Pups 31 October 2017 08: 02 New
    +1
    In some ways, we can agree with him.
    1. Bat
      Bat 31 October 2017 08: 11 New
      22
      In what? The fact that they saved the Jews, who now bark at Russia from behind a hill.
    2. klaus16
      klaus16 31 October 2017 08: 15 New
      +7
      “let's say the government of such a country absolutely irrationally reacts to external threats (imaginary)” - this is the main idea! That is: do not worry, no one is threatening you, do not improve the army, do not conduct exercises, and do not fuss at all, but simply take the appropriate position and enjoy the advent of democracy.
    3. Cxnumx
      Cxnumx 31 October 2017 08: 24 New
      +4
      What is "in something"? I became directly interested.
      Threat I have an opinion that Europe is prevented from moving forward without telling other countries what to do - the absence of colonies and slaves.
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 31 October 2017 08: 41 New
        +3
        Quote: K0
        I have an opinion that Europe is prevented from moving forward without telling other countries what to do - the absence of colonies and slaves.

        Well, now Europe itself has become a colony, and what its former slaves are doing to it prevents it from acting without instructions from the side ...
      2. Warrior with machine gun
        Warrior with machine gun 31 October 2017 14: 05 New
        +5
        in the top ten venerable)))
    4. dog breeder
      dog breeder 31 October 2017 08: 35 New
      +4
      Agree, just do not need us to impose it! The twentieth century for the Russian Empire was probably the most difficult for its entire existence. And such "advisers" are more guilty of this, trying to tear off a piece of Russia at no cost.
    5. insular
      insular 31 October 2017 08: 59 New
      +4
      Quote: Bobblehead
      In some ways, we can agree with him.

      In what?
      Stalinism and nostalgia for the USSR still exist
      In what brain can such contradictions be born? How can there be nostalgia for a "repressive" "prison of nations"? So a lie, since everything is so tense?
    6. urman
      urman 31 October 2017 09: 13 New
      +4
      Quote: Bobblehead
      In some ways, we can agree with him.

      In what? Abandon your own story? Give them natural resources in concession? Start promoting same-sex relationships? Hold gay parades?
      So you agree with them and go get treated by this psychiatrist.
      How many were your people absent from the promised land?
      What the hell are you back?
      To this extent, this nonsense can be fastened to (God's chosen ones)
      So there is no need here to thoughtfully spew sewage.
      Teach your woman how to cook cabbage soup and not hand out advice here!
    7. Orionvit
      Orionvit 31 October 2017 10: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: Bobblehead
      The Soviet past hinders Russia from moving forward

      Yeah. Here, Ukraine, with the Baltic states and the rest of the post-Soviet riffraff, who abandoned the great Soviet past, according to this logic, is already "nothing" does not interfere to go forward. Moreover, the West gives them all kinds of support, both economically, politically, and in information, and in military terms. So what? How far have they come? A bright future has come? So far, apart from the complete degradation of both the state and the population, nothing is visible there.
  3. Bat
    Bat 31 October 2017 08: 04 New
    +9
    We will forget the past, and we will be like most Western countries. God bless those who tried to destroy us and hate those who helped us. DO NOT WAIT.
    1. Sergey-svs
      Sergey-svs 31 October 2017 08: 35 New
      +4
      Quote: Bat
      We will forget the past, and we will be like most Western countries. God bless those who tried to destroy us and hate those who helped us. DO NOT WAIT.

      Some half-fools, having heard such as Mr. Miinsen, have already refused and forgot about their Soviet past! fool And now this “tseEuropa” in lace shorts is “GOING FORWARD” to enlightenment and prosperity. You can even say that it’s already reached! laughing
      1. Victor N
        Victor N 31 October 2017 09: 29 New
        +2
        has come ....... And we are calling. Now there is a general battle for MORAL NORMS. Our main weapon is the ORTHODOX MORAL, professed by our ancestors!
  4. bagr69
    bagr69 31 October 2017 08: 05 New
    +6
    In the Soviet past, its achievements and margin of safety, we were able to survive the 90s. If this past had not existed, we would have long been composed of a number of specific principalities warring with each other.
    When will the all-knowing Western experts and their servants calm down and leave us alone?
    Why is the West so diligently “sucking up” our past and forgetting its past and present with millions of victims of their repressions, genocide and even the destruction of entire nations?
    1. nikolaev
      nikolaev 31 October 2017 08: 43 New
      +2
      they won’t calm down while Russia and the Russian people exist.
    2. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 31 October 2017 16: 13 New
      0
      Quote: bagr69
      When will the all-knowing Western experts and their servants calm down and leave us alone?
      Why is the West so diligently “sucking up” our past and forgetting its past and present with millions of victims of their repressions, genocide and even the destruction of entire nations?

      The question is rhetorical, because you gave the answer:
      Quote: bagr69
      In the Soviet past, its achievements and margin of safety, we were able to survive the 90s. If this past had not existed, we would have long been composed of a number of specific principalities warring with each other.
  5. ded100
    ded100 31 October 2017 08: 05 New
    +5
    Just Russia and went ahead toto you are all enraged would the opposite be praised and smiled!
    1. Dorren
      Dorren 31 October 2017 08: 23 New
      +4
      Here, too, such a feeling, through them a sort of confusion more and more often. Let them “psychoanalyze themselves” —that they have “gestalt” unclosed - they say, how so, again this uncomfortable Russia.
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 31 October 2017 10: 24 New
        +2
        Quote: Dorren
        through them a kind of confusion

        They are not confused, they have a frank panic, in the sense of comfort in Europe, who at least is not much in the subject. The Western world is rotting. In political economy classes, we laughed, but it turned out to be true. Capitalism is at an impasse (there are no new markets), multiculturalism and tolerance are flourishing everywhere, all sorts of LGBT people (to put it mildly) command, migrants everywhere. Frankly, if Russia survived the crisis thanks to the Soviet reserve, then Europe, too, holds on to the resources that were accumulated at the end of the 20th century (especially in the 90s, after the collapse of the USSR). I don’t know how anyone, but I, the best memories, are associated with the Soviet period, although even then there were enough problems, but they were completely different.
        1. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 31 October 2017 13: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: Orionvit
          I don’t know how anyone, but I, the best memories, are associated with the Soviet period, although even then there were enough problems, but they were completely different.


          so the fact of the matter is that we are stuck with those problems that didn’t go sideways for us wassat but seriously ... the most important thing is the life of children and the elderly ... then they had no problems with survival, now they have it. God forbid young parents to lose their jobs! Okay, yourself, but how then to explain to the children that they can’t buy the necessities, or that this year dad and mom can’t go on sea vacation ... in Soviet times there were no problems for the children to relax at sea, as it were did not talk about scary children's "camps" hi
          1. Orionvit
            Orionvit 31 October 2017 23: 38 New
            +1
            Quote: Yuyuka
            in Soviet times there were no problems for children to rest at sea, no matter how they talked about scary children's "camps"

            I remember about the "terrible" camps, I myself was more than once, including the counselor. For the current generation, this is not understood.
            1. Yuyuka
              Yuyuka 1 November 2017 12: 20 New
              0
              Quote: Orionvit
              Quote: Yuyuka
              in Soviet times there were no problems for children to rest at sea, no matter how they talked about scary children's "camps"

              I remember about the "terrible" camps, I myself was more than once, including the counselor. For the current generation, this is not understood.


              yeah ... our generation has all gone through these "camps" ... with a very rare exception. Moreover (if in my example) - the mother grew up alone, the salary is 80 rubles, they paid a loan of 15 years for a single-room apartment. I went to the camp every year, about 5 years ... if it’s not at sea, I didn’t consider it a camp. Songs around the campfire, hiking ... Most of today's children certainly don’t know about this. This is the "terrible Soviet system" ... hi
  6. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 31 October 2017 08: 06 New
    10
    Europe is ready to make a clinical diagnosis to Russia.
    They would be better off diagnosing themselves - tolerastics with aplomb!
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 31 October 2017 09: 07 New
      +6
      hi It will be like a rebellion in a psychiatric hospital when Napoleon seizes the chair of the head physician. lol
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 31 October 2017 09: 14 New
        +6
        hi But he will make himself an accurate diagnosis: emperor, cake or cognac! wassat
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 31 October 2017 09: 19 New
          +6
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          emperor, cake or cognac

          Yeah, and destroy the reserves of the last from the previous chief. wassat
          1. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee 31 October 2017 09: 21 New
            +4
            Quote: Jedi
            and destroy

            And this is cannibalism! am am
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 31 October 2017 09: 23 New
              +6
              And what else to expect from a psycho? wink
              1. Uncle lee
                Uncle lee 31 October 2017 09: 28 New
                +5
                Lying in the ward - squint
                Togo look pounce.
                And nearby psychos are quiet
                Incurable ...
                Here is the head physician, a woman,
                Quiet, but crazy!
                I’m going to lose my mind!
                She to me - Wait!
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 31 October 2017 08: 09 New
    +6
    A nation that has forgotten its past has no future ...
    1. insular
      insular 31 October 2017 09: 01 New
      +2
      Quote: parusnik
      A nation that has forgotten its past has no future ...

      But this was proved by the USSR itself. Having renounced the Imperialist past, the USSR deprived itself of the future and now has received the same fate.
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 31 October 2017 10: 34 New
        +3
        Quote: insular
        Having renounced the imperialist past, the USSR deprived itself of the future and now has received the same fate

        Not certainly in that way. The USSR abandoned the imperialist past, only in terms of ideology. I recall the lessons of history in the Soviet school, and I do not remember that there would be any negative attitude to the past. Scolded kings, landowners, nobles, in terms of the exploitation of the people, and all. But the great events and battles in Soviet historiography were described as "for the glory of Russia and Russian weapons." If you don’t remember, or who else wasn’t in the “project” then, look through old history textbooks or watch old films, even, about horror, Stalin’s.
        1. insular
          insular 31 October 2017 23: 30 New
          +1
          Quote: Orionvit
          The USSR abandoned the imperialist past, only in terms of ideology

          Similarly now. Rejection of the ideology of world revolution and socialism.
          Quote: Orionvit
          But the great events and battles in Soviet historiography were described as "for the glory of Russia and Russian weapons"
          Similarly now. Moreover, special events, from the revolution to the Patriotic War, are appointed even on weekends.
          Quote: Orionvit
          and I don’t remember that there would be any negative attitude towards the past.

          The USSR defamed the imperialist past. Now the socialist is being defamed. And then and now there are reasons for this. And by the way, the very model of the state system is being defamed, and it is the Soviets (and Lenin in particular) who are charged with creating the prerequisites for the collapse of the Union and the collapse of Russia (autonomy of territories on a national basis, the removal of national territories from the RSFSR).
          Everyone has mistakes, but for some reason the Empire can and should be defamed, but the USSR cannot. In no form. Although how much the Empire existed, how many Soviets ruled.

          And let's talk about legal succession. Did the Soviets repay Imperial debts? And with what sauce was it served? The Bolsheviks, they say, do not recognize the conquest wars, and offer the bourgeois to pay for their adventures themselves ... Nor what can I call it? Did the USSR have few adventures? Little help to African cannibals?

          No. The USSR has something to show in terms of renunciation of itself (i.e., from its roots).
  8. ibnvladimir
    ibnvladimir 31 October 2017 08: 12 New
    +7
    Anti-Soviet = Russophobe.
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  10. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 31 October 2017 08: 16 New
    +3
    “A people who do not know their past have no future,” they say that it was said by MV Lomonosov.
  11. midivan
    midivan 31 October 2017 08: 16 New
    +7
    [/ quote] True, this is not enough: Stalinism and nostalgia for the USSR still exist. [quote]
    What is true is true! Looking at fagots, nostalgia! Watch the news- nostalgia! You see how pensioners shop at the store, again sadness, remember the officials .........., in general, no matter where you look, one nostalgia for Stalin!
  12. Dorren
    Dorren 31 October 2017 08: 25 New
    +5
    Yes, it’s just that different things “forward” with them)))))) For us, the Soviet past helps us to move forward.
  13. Gardamir
    Gardamir 31 October 2017 08: 27 New
    +2
    What everyone is unhappy about. Putin himself unveiled a spit into the Soviet past yesterday.
  14. zoolu350
    zoolu350 31 October 2017 08: 34 New
    +7
    The Soviet Union is not the past, the Soviet Union is the future!
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 31 October 2017 10: 41 New
      0
      Quote: zoolu350
      The Soviet Union is not the past, the Soviet Union is the future!

      The October Revolution happened, about 200 years earlier than necessary. Hurry up the Bolsheviks. Well, nothing, experience has been accumulated, and now the main thing is not to lose it, in the pursuit of a "bright capitalist future." Yes. completely forgot not to make past mistakes.
  15. stolz
    stolz 31 October 2017 08: 34 New
    +2
    Quote: Logall
    Such opinions hinder Russia from going forward! Especially if they come from fellow citizens ...

    Ivo Mijsen, Judit Herman are rather strange names for fellow citizens.
  16. Million
    Million 31 October 2017 08: 34 New
    +1
    "Russia is prevented from moving forward by the Soviet past"
    Unfortunately, modern Russia simply doesn’t know where to go. Politicians trample on the spot. It will not lead to anything good.
  17. Sverdlov
    Sverdlov 31 October 2017 08: 38 New
    +1
    Passed a "psycho" at the medical board for rights. It seems that they are all cuckoo. Ask idiotic questions and look into the eyes, how do you react?
    They have such a method. And the installation is to consider everyone around as idiots.
    And this one is the same.
    The great past of a great country helps to live. And survive in any incredible conditions. A man must believe in himself, in his country, in a bright future. And these pull us back, trying to inspire an inferiority complex. He is not a doctor. He must be treated. Or bury already. In the darkness of time ...
  18. Olgovich
    Olgovich 31 October 2017 08: 38 New
    +1
    This is not his thing, Miinsen. She does not understand a shisha, but is taken to judge.
    We'll figure it out ourselves.
  19. Krasnyiy komissar
    Krasnyiy komissar 31 October 2017 08: 50 New
    +4
    Liberalists, usually of Gus origin, are hindering Russia from going into the future. Unfortunately, the IVS did not finish the reptiles, he was too cruel ...
    1. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 31 October 2017 16: 17 New
      0
      Quote: Krasnyiy komissar
      Unfortunately, the IVS did not finish the reptiles, he was too cruel ...

      Joseph Vissarionovich extremely cruelly and cynically left them to die by his death ...
  20. Berber
    Berber 31 October 2017 08: 50 New
    +3
    Most of the turmoil of the past is organized by the "west". And who said that we stand still? - we live.
  21. tasha
    tasha 31 October 2017 08: 55 New
    +2
    Monument to the memory of victims of political repressions - a hopeful step towards reconciliation with the past

    I agree. This is history. We have no right to forget the events of the past, but we must think about the future, and to do - the present ..
    How much can you suffer about past greatness and arrange battles under which political system or leader was better? I repeat: Demand the return of vinyl records and pay phones wink
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 31 October 2017 10: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: tasha
      We have no right to forget the events of the past, but we must think about the future, and to do - the present ..

      This is you about nothing. They do not present, they live in the present. And they are making the future, including their thoughts and deeds. And in order to make the future, the past must not be forgotten, but learned from it and draw the right conclusions. Then there will be a chance.
      1. tasha
        tasha 31 October 2017 11: 16 New
        0
        This is you about nothing.

        Are you sure they won’t think so about your comment? wink
        They do not present, they live in the present.

        My cat lives in the present. That's good for someone. And he makes poop wink
        And they are making the future, including their thoughts and deeds.

        The future - it will be. You don’t have to do it. But what it will be, and whether we will be in it - that’s what we need to think about ...
        the past must not be forgotten, but learned from it and draw the right conclusions.

        So what am I talking about. Now, if we grapple with you in assessing the past, then we won’t draw any lessons and draw no conclusions.
        1. Orionvit
          Orionvit 31 October 2017 12: 02 New
          0
          Quote: tasha
          The future - it will be. You don’t have to do it. But what it will be, and whether we will be in it - that’s what we need to think about ...

          If you only think about the future and do nothing, then the future will certainly come, but only for those who have made certain efforts for this.
  22. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 31 October 2017 09: 09 New
    +1
    injuries may not necessarily affect a single person, but the whole society.


    Mental illness of the nation. belay

    The case for small: declare incompetent to take Siberia under "control"guardian; distribute gold reserves among mentally complete nations; put on a straitjacket. am
  23. johnik
    johnik 31 October 2017 09: 15 New
    0
    Even if we give up all the gold for a beads or a promise to keep alive, they will still destroy us, like a montesum ...
  24. Nemesis
    Nemesis 31 October 2017 09: 16 New
    +4
    Yeltsin’s legacy and the heirs of Yeltsin prevent Russia from moving forward
  25. delvin-fil
    delvin-fil 31 October 2017 09: 33 New
    +1
    When the cat has nothing to do - he, umm ... the stomach licks.
  26. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 31 October 2017 09: 35 New
    +5
    How tired of these ostentatious events with the participation of the president and the patriarch (I specially write with small letters). The official statistics for 32 years from 1922 to February 1954 repressed 642980 people on political issues and all these nonsense of liberals of all stripes, used by some "comrades" from the government, simply speaks of their addictions, moral values ​​and attitude towards their COUNTRY and its PEOPLE . If you are so principled then why are you silent about the extinct from 4 to 6 million CITIZENS OF RUSSIA (according to various sources) during the reign of EBNets, many of you were in power, why did you keep silent by stuffing your tongue in the ass ... where is your principle , moral and moral principles, and this is a GENOCIDE against YOUR PEOPLE, it turns out you are accomplices of this and your hands are bloodied up to the elbow, and what right do you have to speak about repressions of the Soviet period then, look at yourself and what you should be called?
  27. Mwg
    Mwg 31 October 2017 09: 42 New
    0
    ““ From 1929 to 1953, ”he notes,“ the Soviet government sent about 24 million of its citizens to camps or exiles, many of them did not survive this. ” - see Solzhenitsyn read))))
    1. johnik
      johnik 31 October 2017 09: 55 New
      +1
      - SOLZHENitsin?
      - Not! by FALSE!
  28. Dwarfking
    Dwarfking 31 October 2017 09: 51 New
    0
    First, let them put a monument to the repressions in every European city and beat them on their brow daily. We are far from their repressions as Ilona Mask to Mars
  29. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 31 October 2017 10: 09 New
    +2
    Quote: insular
    Quote: parusnik
    A nation that has forgotten its past has no future ...

    But this was proved by the USSR itself. Having renounced the Imperialist past, the USSR deprived itself of the future and now has received the same fate.

    This is how the past was forgotten in the USSR. Only the Russian Empire, not imperialistic thinking. What was given away, lost during the USSR? Nothing. They only grew and honored their heroes, poets, writers, historians, military leaders.
    than of all times, and peoples .. Forgetting the party and Komsomol workers who were overweight, the head of state forgot what happens when you ignore the people and care about your well-being. What is the king, what is the secretary general. That's true.
  30. Vincent
    Vincent 31 October 2017 10: 13 New
    0
    So Germany, in their opinion, was healed of the mistakes of the past? By the fault of which, incidentally, tens of millions of people were deliberately killed (burnt alive by entire villages and tortured to death in concentration camps). all over Germany are already monuments to victims of the second world? Like, forgave yourself and you can teach others?
  31. Old military officer
    Old military officer 31 October 2017 10: 19 New
    +1
    This is how “advanced world public opinion” takes care of poor citizens of Russia who do not want to become degenerates and degenerates, with the exception of the liberal-dermocratic “elite”, even psychiatrists (I wonder if they were from British scientists) were attracted. Do you speak?
  32. Old military officer
    Old military officer 31 October 2017 10: 21 New
    +1
    Quote: Wend
    The Soviet past still divides Russia into two camps. So it’s not so and it’s not true.

    The diagnosis is correct. It is not treated. Sorry, Wend.
  33. Old military officer
    Old military officer 31 October 2017 10: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: zoolu350
    The Soviet Union is not the past, the Soviet Union is the future!

    To the count! Well done! This is our future, despite the external and internal "psychiatrists."
  34. Dimachrus
    Dimachrus 31 October 2017 10: 30 New
    +2
    Somehow, straight in unison with the horse-like Madame, a gay European psychiatrist crowed ....
    Only here they have absolutely no logic. Millions of fellow citizens have plagued and tortured and built the industry, raised the army, survived in the war, made the atom peaceful and flew into space - and all this under the yoke of wildest tyranny ???
    It seems to me that the number of victims will grow in the near future, somehow on command they started a new wave of lies about the past of the USSR ....
    A photo can be signed - "the victim of enlightened Europeans 1941 - 1945"
  35. Severok
    Severok 31 October 2017 10: 34 New
    0
    Another "expert" of what was and what was not and what is in the way! Liberals are hindering our country ... (as if not to fall under a ban) ... in short, people, you understand. These are the ones that need to be driven by the filthy broomstick from power, as well as the "people's representatives."
  36. Old military officer
    Old military officer 31 October 2017 10: 36 New
    +3
    Quote: Nasr
    "From 1929 to 1953," he notes, "the Soviet government sent about 24 million of its citizens to camps or exiles, many of them did not survive this."


    Where do these numbers come from? Well, at least not 100500 million repressed ...
    24 million !!!!!!!! Who then fought then? And he went on the attack with the words - For the homeland! For Stalin! ???



    War, traitors, deserters, provocateurs, OUN, UPA, Baltic forest brothers, looters and other things to ignore - are included in these figures

    I would like to remind everyone in what situation this happened. Continuing military provocations in different parts of the country, counter-revolutionary rebellions, banditry, class struggle, expressed in sabotage, sabotage, theft of social property, etc. And the human factor? What do you think, "Dog Heart" and "Golden Calf" with "12 chairs arose from scratch"? And the question is: are there any non-political repressions? And how to distinguish them?
  37. SMP
    SMP 31 October 2017 10: 58 New
    0
    Quote: Observer2014
    They love psychiatry in the West. This is a hobby.
    What is. That is. But in general. Yes, they went to three fun letters.


  38. iouris
    iouris 31 October 2017 11: 00 New
    0
    How would a psychiatrist justify the need to finish off the enemy.
  39. Alex Xorkam
    Alex Xorkam 31 October 2017 11: 08 New
    0
    The worst thing is half-truth. In the history of Russia there really were circumstances that still prevent Russia from developing. These include expropriation, collectivization, and repression, during which there were 4.5 million denunciations, that is, all those cases when normal laws were forgotten, and expediency acted, as understood by the authorities. (There is still no analysis of the causes of reprisals. There have also been wars that also created difficulties in development. However, at present, the age-old reason of those in power to follow the West hinders development most of all. Moreover, it’s more often thoughtless. Since the beginning of the 18 century, it’s a model in Russia It was the west. The Russian nobility even spoke French. Here is the cringingness and now the most hindrance.
    1. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 31 October 2017 16: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: Alex Xorkam
      These include expropriation, collectivization, and repression, during which there were 4.5 million denunciations, that is, all those cases when normal laws were forgotten and expediency acted, as it was understood by the authorities.

      This is how to look, you know ... And denunciations were written not only by state figures. There were a lot of openly eager and subtle (someone liked the apartment there, someone else annoyed him, etc.) motives.
      Quote: Alex Xorkam
      Since the beginning of the 18th century, the West has been a model in Russia. The Russian nobility even spoke French. That cringing and now interferes most.

      I will correct it. In French, our elite spoke only at the end of the 18th century, before that, since the beginning of the century, this language was German. Total: in the Seven Years War, they took Berlin twice and essentially defeated Prussia (but Peter III ruined everything, radish), in 1814 they took Paris and defeated Napoleon. German became popular again in the 20th century. Well, they won again (but already Germany) in 1945. What will happen in our century - we will see how they say.
  40. Wolka
    Wolka 31 October 2017 11: 22 New
    0
    whose cow mumbled, while the European netel would be better silent ..., they see a speck in the eyes of others, but they don’t notice in their log ...
  41. Hlavaty
    Hlavaty 31 October 2017 11: 47 New
    0
    Enlightened Europe, we add, is ready to make a clinical diagnosis for Russia.


    I wonder what kind of "treatment" will be prescribed?
    Although, it is unlikely that they will come up with something original.
  42. Zomanus
    Zomanus 31 October 2017 12: 08 New
    0
    Well. Who wrote the article there, Germany?
    Which America still has respiratory and respiratory in everything?
    Oh guys, write to you about guilt for the past, not you ...
  43. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 31 October 2017 12: 48 New
    0
    "The Soviet past is preventing Russia from moving forward." And the West so wants the country in a difficult situation to confidently step forward, into the abyss and perish there. Dreams Dreams.
  44. zulusuluz
    zulusuluz 31 October 2017 14: 29 New
    +2
    The First World War, then the Revolution, followed by the Civil War, then collectivization, famine, the “Great Terror” and World War II. Millions perished. Finally, the collapse of the USSR in 1991 led to another crisis. And so far, the Russians have failed to cope with these injuries, Miinsen is convinced.
    If the West used this moment all this time and offended Russia, then how can we forget this ???
  45. BMP-2
    BMP-2 31 October 2017 15: 33 New
    +1
    Miinsen does not seem to understand that the words of the psychiatrist refer personally to him and his society, and therefore hangs all the dogs in Russia ... Sadness ... In psychiatry, this phenomenon is called "transfer" - when the patient ascribes his problems to others and does not take responsibility for yourself for their permission.
  46. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 31 October 2017 15: 49 New
    +2
    Russia is thwarted by the advance of thieves, idlers and talkers, seated on all key positions in the economy and governance. And this magazine, the Whore, simply fulfills his 30 pieces of silver thrown to him like a bone from a lordly thief's table. But what the current "effective managers" have created is a mystery over 25 years. Well, except for the pipes in all sorons, to steal the country's resources even more. With their own shish, gas and oil and MUCH more are pumped UNMISSIBELY over the hill, and the money earned there is hidden behind the hill from people. And risking that they are all confiscated by the "partners". And most importantly, there is enough arrogance in his mediocrity, laziness and theft to blame the convictions of those who built everything that these mediocreities crap today.
  47. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 31 October 2017 20: 21 New
    0
    Believing in a “heroic epic” imposed by the authorities, the Russians themselves prevent themselves from forming the image of the future.
    It would be nice if that were so. And then besides the “Matilda” and Kalashnikov with a German rifle from the power of Medinsky for this year and nebylo. True, in the past we had Mannerheim - Hero of Russia. Here I agree, "heroic epic."
  48. faterdom
    faterdom 31 October 2017 22: 26 New
    +1
    Enlightened Europe, we add, is ready to make a clinical diagnosis for Russia. Remotely.

    And unenlightened Russia is ready to deliver an enema to Europe. Rectally.
  49. LeonidL
    LeonidL 1 November 2017 01: 27 New
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    Already 24 million! Who is bigger? Only recently the figure of 7 million from the 17th to the 53rd year was voiced by the leadership of Memorial. Moreover, this includes Bandera, all kinds of Basmachis, Vlasov, policemen, bandits, real spies and saboteurs. Why lie on the principle of "whoever lies more, the greater democrat"?
  50. Esoteric
    Esoteric 1 November 2017 04: 40 New
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    “Suffering” from historical “injuries,” Russian society refuses to heal, says journalist Ivo Miinsen. As a result, the Russians themselves put sticks in wheels and they cannot create the image of the future of the country.

    Why not create something. Following Western logic, we can very well put it, the benefit of examples is darkness. But...
    In the future of our country, in which we represent ourselves, there is no exploitation of man by man and pro-Western "values." It has economic boom and population growth. The only way...