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Chubais announced the "imminent" energy crisis in Russia

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The head of the state-owned company Rosnano, Anatoly Chubais, in an interview "Russian newspaper" announced the "inevitability of the energy crisis" for Russia. According to Chubais, if nothing is changed today, then through 6-7, Russia will no longer have enough power to produce electricity, which will lead to acute crisis phenomena.


Chubais notes that Russia will begin to face the shortage of electricity in the coming 4 of the year. At the same time, the inventor of the “vouchers” stated that this was not so much his personal forecast, as “taking into account the opinions of specialists”.

Anatoly Chubais:
But if you make a forecast for the future, then almost everyone agrees on the idea that this resource will be exhausted. Some say - to 2021 year, others - to 2023, others - to 2025. I think that in the range of six to seven years, if we do not provide new inputs, we will again get the same problem from which we came out thanks to the reform.


Chubais announced the "imminent" energy crisis in Russia


The head of Rosnano predicts a significant increase in electricity prices in Russia, since “the capacity will no longer cope with the demand.”

Further, Chubais actually turned to the advertising of Rosnano projects, announcing that programs in the field of wind generators and the generation of electrical energy during the burning of garbage can help “overcome the crisis”. According to Chubais, by the year 2024, up to 6 GW of so-called “green” capacities can be put into operation. The head of Rosnano noted that this is not enough, but over time, the cost of a unit of green energy should be lower than the cost of a unit of electricity produced by traditional methods.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 31 October 2017 06: 13 New
    38
    ... again a redhead misunderstanding peeped out of the pile .. bully
    1. Titsen
      Titsen 31 October 2017 06: 39 New
      28
      Quote: aszzz888
      ... again a redhead misunderstanding peeped out of the pile .. bully


      If only to call him that.

      In fact, it’s the main pest of Russia, and it’s not a prison or logging that cries over it, but a good hemp (not nano) rope!
      1. The black
        The black 31 October 2017 06: 46 New
        19
        In general, the redhead did not say anything supernatural. It’s just that some too liberal journalists are heart-warming! in Russia, the crisis is coming! here they’ve inflated .... and intentionally ..... and his statement looks something like "if you have nothing to eat for 20 days, you can starve to death" smile
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 31 October 2017 07: 17 New
          15
          According to Chubais, if nothing is changed today, then in 6-7 years, Russia will cease to have enough power

          And then whom to plant? Chubais! Did he even change the boiler at one station when he taxied all the country's electrics? Before him they changed, and now they change, but with him - NO. That smells in advance ...
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          2. dik-nsk
            dik-nsk 31 October 2017 09: 53 New
            13
            yes there is no power crisis .. he in this fairy tale about the lack of capacity filled his pockets at that time out of thin air, creating a shortage artificially on paper .. the enterprises stood on a stake, and then suddenly there was a shortage, yeah .. apparently ran into a nano, again decided to nose into put energy
            1. dik-nsk
              dik-nsk 31 October 2017 10: 03 New
              +9
              the maximum power consumption in 2016 can reach 154,982 GW, and in 2021 it will reach 162,836 GW. This is the basic scenario, but there is a moderately optimistic forecast based on the assumption of more active economic growth. It already refers to 169,504 GW in 2021. For comparison, the installed capacity of all power plants of the UES of Russia is almost 232,452 GW
              official statistics
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 31 October 2017 07: 50 New
          20
          Quote: Black
          In general, the redhead did not say anything supernatural. It’s just that some too liberal journalists are heart-warming! in Russia, the crisis is coming! here they’ve inflated .... and intentionally ..... and so his statement looks something like "if you have nothing to eat for 20 days, you can starve to death"

          In general, the redhead gave a confession that after the creation of RAO Energy Systems, which he headed, and the fragmentation of this once-unified system into a bunch of smaller joint-stock companies that pulled the legacy of the USSR and did not invest a ruble in the development of systems, he and his company drove Russia's energy sector to an end 50s. And this is a real problem, to the creation of which Chubais is directly involved.
          1. Antianglosax
            Antianglosax 31 October 2017 08: 14 New
            14
            However, we are building nuclear power plants all over the world, but are we lacking ourselves? We supply 20% of all Russian electricity abroad. Where does the energy crisis come from? Most likely, the authorities are preparing the people of Russia another trick, otherwise this stinking ginger rubbish would not get out to broadcast in public.
          2. antivirus
            antivirus 31 October 2017 10: 48 New
            0
            even simpler - people are moving the ABC away from the steering wheel.
            they sat in their seats 15 years ago, as a result of RAOEC reforms and a change of trend (new trends in science and other suppliers), + the arrival of other shareholders (from other money bags) about OGKs and TGKs.
        3. stolz
          stolz 31 October 2017 08: 48 New
          +3
          It's okay, by that time the Belarusian NPP will reach full capacity and help Russia.
        4. SMP
          SMP 31 October 2017 11: 04 New
          +1
          In general, the redhead did not say anything supernatural. It’s just that some too liberal journalists are heart-warming! in Russia, the crisis is coming! here they’ve inflated .... and intentionally ..... and his statement looks something like "if you haven’t eat anything for 20 days, you can starve to death" smile


          This ch.m.o just voiced the opinion of scientists who have been voicing for 10 years now. Naturally, Putin didn’t break off Yeltsin’s contract to sell enriched uranium to a thuja heap.
        5. Zhelezyakin
          Zhelezyakin 31 October 2017 13: 03 New
          +6
          If! Everything is built here just for the sake of selling another Chuboid. All according to the law of advertising. Tighten the rolls of the layman, scare, and then offer a means to solve all problems. And he doesn’t say, build more power plants, but offers to buy wind generators from him (bought in Europe or the states at the end of the warranty line and given out for another innovation).
          1. Mih1974
            Mih1974 6 November 2017 01: 08 New
            +1
            I have a solution to ALL problems voiced by Chubaisyatina - quarter him !! am good
      2. Stas Snezhin
        Stas Snezhin 31 October 2017 07: 10 New
        +2
        Most likely, he will pick up money, and will knock him down to live for the "hillock" ..
      3. ID90
        ID90 31 October 2017 11: 45 New
        +2
        Quote: Titsen
        In fact, it’s the main pest of Russia, and it’s not a prison or logging that cries over it, but a good hemp (not nano) rope!

        and who then will look after Putin?
      4. AUL
        AUL 31 October 2017 12: 21 New
        0
        It would be necessary to designate the redhead as the chief for the construction of power plants in the country and allocate more dough to him. Then, the country will be in full order with energy. Well, as with nanotechnology.
    2. Pravodel
      Pravodel 31 October 2017 07: 28 New
      +1
      I wonder if he said about the new vouchers? Probably, together with his American friends he had already figured out how to deceive the whole of Russia in a new way and steal another piece of the pie from her ...

      [/ quote] People-state-Fatherland [quote]
      - this is the slogan of every Russian patriot. A strong state, a united nation, a prosperous country for centuries, which is beyond the means of internal and external enemies.
    3. Omskgasmyas
      Omskgasmyas 31 October 2017 08: 22 New
      +6
      It is necessary to burn this pile of garbage in the incinerator e \ station.
      Well, if Chubais happens to be in the trash, - well, at least some kind of real benefit will be from him.
      Again, this e \ station can be safely called his name ...
    4. volodya
      volodya 31 October 2017 08: 33 New
      +1
      Quote: aszzz888
      ... again a redhead misunderstanding peeped out of the pile .. bully

      Interestingly, how long will it be free to walk?
    5. Vend
      Vend 31 October 2017 09: 58 New
      +2
      Yes, who would doubt it. Looks like Chubais took off in this direction. And in order not to get on the arrogant red face, I decided to lay straws. Play the fortune teller.
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 2 November 2017 17: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: Wend
        And in order not to get on the arrogant red face, I decided to lay straws.

    6. IL-18
      IL-18 31 October 2017 10: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: aszzz888
      ... again a redhead misunderstanding peeped out of the pile .. bully

      Such a normal hint: I found something to stick to the budget for the "green" energy.
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 31 October 2017 06: 16 New
    +7
    Put Kvachkova in rosnyun, and put a voucher under the ground! sad
    1. 210ox
      210ox 31 October 2017 06: 57 New
      +4
      In his speech there is one thing ... Money. More money! Give the state! And what did you do the red cat? The state robbed.
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Put Kvachkova in rosnyun, and put a voucher under the ground! sad
    2. midivan
      midivan 31 October 2017 07: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Put Kvachkova in rosnyun, and put a voucher under the ground! sad

      Akella missed!
      1. Herculesic
        Herculesic 31 October 2017 07: 47 New
        +1
        Akela didn’t even stand close to that imitation of pseudo focus lol voucher! !! hi
  3. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 31 October 2017 06: 17 New
    20
    Chubais announced the "imminent" energy crisis in Russia
    Interestingly, what kind of power supply will we have and from which plants will it go uphill? After the destruction of thousands of factories from the USSR, we have a "pillow" for 1000 years.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 31 October 2017 06: 28 New
      12
      After his reforms in RAO UES of Russia, there was no electricity either!
    2. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 31 October 2017 06: 42 New
      +2
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      After the destruction of thousands of factories from the USSR, we have a "pillow" for 1000 years.

      And here is the answer to the question


      Quote: Mavrikiy
      After his reforms in RAO UES of Russia, there was no electricity either!
      1. A.V.S.
        A.V.S. 31 October 2017 11: 53 New
        0
        We will purchase electricity in Germany.
        Energy producers in Germany will pay electricity consumers to strike a balance between energy production and consumption.
        According to Bloomberg, by October 29, electricity production from renewable sources will break the record, causing electricity prices to drop below zero. The agency notes that for the first time in a year, prices will become negative. This means that manufacturers need to close stations to reduce production, or pay consumers to use energy.
        1. Krabik
          Krabik 1 November 2017 13: 33 New
          0
          It’s even scary to imagine how much German electricity will cost in Russia ...
        2. Mih1974
          Mih1974 6 November 2017 01: 35 New
          +1
          What is this criticism? Any production of electricity costs money and, of course, no one can ever afford not only to reduce the cost to zero, but even more so to "pay" the consumer. This is clearly a case of juggling, when huge taxes on "ordinary generation" as "green subsidies" supposedly reduce the cost for "green".
          Moreover, the total cost of the "green kilowatts" were and there are significantly more than usual. Germany’s forced abandonment of the nuclear power plant will soon come back to them if they haven’t already stopped and they will buy enormous amounts of petricaria in France, from their nuclear power plant, or in Russia.
          For Russia, a “pocket generator” of low power hydroelectric power station was invented long ago
          here is a reference to the simplest embodiment of the local kulibins
          "" http://poselenie.ucoz.ru/publ/6-1-0-29 "". With the water resources of Russia, such (or rather cheap, but industrial solutions) can be "poked" with hundreds of thousands. What in general will not be something fundamentally new, but will just restore the system of "water mills" with which the Russian Empire was equipped. The principle (energy source) is the same, and the product is instead of flour, petric good . And most importantly - you can SRAAAAT on snickering coves from local distribution networks requiring monstrous money only for the Right (I’m not lying, you will pay for the hardware separately) will connect to the all-Russian network !! tongue bully
  4. Herculesic
    Herculesic 31 October 2017 06: 17 New
    +9
    With its face, the most something in the Kolyma forest!
  5. Oleg Andreev
    Oleg Andreev 31 October 2017 06: 20 New
    +8
    This unsinkable of the dashing 90s is not yet on the bunk, but it’s time! It’s not clear what and who is holding it.
    1. Red_Hamer
      Red_Hamer 31 October 2017 06: 30 New
      0
      not yet on the bunk, but it’s time to!
      feed, at the expense of the people?
      1. Rader
        Rader 31 October 2017 14: 02 New
        +2
        Quote: Red_Hamer
        not yet on the bunk, but it’s time to!
        feed, at the expense of the people?

        And now he doesn’t eat at the expense of the people ??? Moreover, he doesn’t hawk the balance, but eats the black caviar.
        Quote: Oleg Andreev
        This unsinkable of the dashing 90s is not yet on the bunk, but it’s time! It’s not clear what and who is holding it.

        “Unsinkable”, “immortal red”, “copper Tolik with Teflon coating”, as they just don't call him, and he’s all at the feeding trough. And who holds it and why and so everyone knows.
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 31 October 2017 08: 54 New
      13
      Yes, it is known who, for a long time the demotivator walks on the network
  6. Vladimir K.
    Vladimir K. 31 October 2017 06: 24 New
    +6
    Redhead wants more money for her projects, which are not destined to be realized.
    1. notingem
      notingem 31 October 2017 15: 01 New
      0
      Unfortunately, they will give redhead money. And they will give how much he will say
      1. Krabik
        Krabik 1 November 2017 13: 36 New
        +1
        The best times of our ginger friend have passed.

        So now it is extremely doubtful that he will be allowed to run arms and legs into the Russian budget.

        Here is one hand and possibly give ...
  7. kursk87
    kursk87 31 October 2017 06: 30 New
    +1
    Chubais is an illiterate figure who can only fill his own pocket, Chubais is not capable of more
    1. Krabik
      Krabik 1 November 2017 13: 38 New
      +1
      You do not in vain appreciate the pockets of Chubais and his boundless innovative charm;)
  8. Shurale
    Shurale 31 October 2017 06: 32 New
    +4
    I believe. If this pepper says something bad, I believe that he is special in these matters. Need to do something . I need Ivan Tsarevich with a sword as a treasurer to fill up the prince of darkness, already tired ...
  9. ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey 31 October 2017 06: 33 New
    +4
    The language of this "prophet" is cut off to the very neck. The question is what it means to begin work in this direction.
  10. samarin1969
    samarin1969 31 October 2017 06: 36 New
    18
    This cynical "father" of "Russian" capitalism "must ask himself the question: why is the growing demand for" RF "always giving rise to problems requiring state solutions? ... Why is the" market "itself not" regulated "? ... Adam Smith gentlemen - “businessmen” had to set up power plants of all types on their own .... Why, for 30 years of “Russian” “capitalism”, not a single serious enterprise can do without “crutches” of budget support?
    ps To answer these questions, let Chubais more often watch a video with his "nanocorporates" - this is the essence of the question.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 1 November 2017 19: 54 New
      +1
      in a jet about the state solution to the problems of private capitalism .. On the other hand, after all, he is right in something! due to climatic conditions, our country consumes 6 times more energy per capita. Aluminum, solid state-subsidized electricity, we sell to Boeing. thereby exacerbating their own situation. And we sell oil and gas - yes, this is a prelude!
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 31 October 2017 06: 37 New
    +5
    if you don’t change anything today, then in 6-7 years, Russia will no longer have enough capacity to produce electricity

    Who would say that, but not this unsinkable and untouchable one and it’s not clear why. Where they will not put there in a couple of years, a complete blockage and an incomprehensible expenditure of funds. Steered power systems - now gives 6-7 years before the crisis. When will finally people like Chu be responsible for the perfect?
  12. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 31 October 2017 06: 39 New
    10
    The most infamous is that these words belong to the person who reformed the RES of Russia, bringing it to the appropriate state. This is generally some kind of surrealism.

    The thief is being tried, and he at the court session tells the victim - now you will not have enough money. am
  13. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 31 October 2017 06: 40 New
    12
    The Greeks had a king who, no matter what he touched, turned into gold, the gods punished him so. And this one, no matter where the sting is thrust, is all in Mr. Out. Where is my “Volga” for the voucher, the face is arrogant? Into the Caspian Sea? Again, some kind of dirty trick was conceived, if he makes statements.
    1. Gormenghast
      Gormenghast 31 October 2017 06: 50 New
      +7
      Ilf and Petrov wrote about this "The world has never seen such a blue thief. But he could not steal" am
    2. Krabik
      Krabik 1 November 2017 13: 42 New
      0
      Sorry, but believe that they will give you the Volga for a voucher, no matter how wise%)

      Even for those times when in the USSR there were no scared sheep and that was too much.
  14. Cat Marquis
    Cat Marquis 31 October 2017 06: 42 New
    13
    I read somewhere that Russia exports more than a third of the electricity generated in the country. Where is the "lack of fraud"? The key word “will rise in price” is also the reason: “redhead” and “curly hair” have long been fussing with the idea of ​​“European” prices for energy carriers and utilities, supposedly this will allow energy companies and utility companies to develop their production. However, we all know the main feature of Russian business - all profits in any scenario will go to business owners in the Cayman Islands, and the company will be allocated pennies if only they do not bend, but bend and figs with them, we will sell them for scrap or just throw them away.
    1. Mikhail m
      Mikhail m 31 October 2017 07: 32 New
      +8
      Quote: Cat Marquis
      “redhead” with “curly hair” have long been fussing with the idea of ​​“European” prices for energy and utilities

      And no one is bothering with the idea of ​​European salaries.
      1. Cat Marquis
        Cat Marquis 31 October 2017 07: 51 New
        +3
        And no one is bothering with the idea of ​​European salaries.


        "That's for sure ..." (Phrase from the movie "White Sun of the Desert"). hi
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 1 November 2017 19: 56 New
      0
      The decree of Peter 1 stated that it is forbidden to testify in court with a redhead and an oblique one, because ... God marks the assault.
  15. Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 31 October 2017 06: 44 New
    +8
    If you recall all the promises of Chub, starting with vouchers and ending with a flexible Rosnanist tablet for schoolchildren, and look at how these promises came true, then in the energy sector you can spend 20 years not particularly sweating with capacities. What about
    6 GW of so-called “green” capacities.
    , then I would like Rusnano to build up not “green”, but ruble capacities. And not the power of their consumption, but the influx into the budget.
    1. Gormenghast
      Gormenghast 31 October 2017 08: 01 New
      +6
      flexible Rosnanist tablet for students


      Oh yeah; everyone laughed - until it turned out that this was not stupidity, but theft. am

      Green capacities of Russia are not needed; atomic ones are needed - as this is the only real way for civilization.

      Rosatom - plus; Rusnano - minus. laughing
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 1 November 2017 19: 58 New
        0
        ONANOTECHNOLOGIES !!
  16. 1536
    1536 31 October 2017 06: 48 New
    +3
    What kind of reform was this, after which the question of reform arose again? Maybe not reform, but in Lefortovo crooks? Well, how much can you endure this gang?
  17. oracul
    oracul 31 October 2017 06: 55 New
    +5
    That's a scoundrel! Who else but he had a hand in destroying the unified energy system of Russia, tearing it to pieces, promising some competition that would supposedly lead to lower tariffs, minimized the construction of new stations and the renewal of electric networks. He looked far, and now he warns. The whole calculation was based on curtailing the economy to please the West. Benefactor, pooh !!!
  18. Alex66
    Alex66 31 October 2017 06: 59 New
    +4
    He is an enemy, and you can’t listen to the advice of the enemy. He is the one who was ruining the industry, just to stay in power, he is the one who even now has not really done anything, but not badly sawing the loot. I do not believe that in Russia there is no specialist in nano technologies better than him, but nevertheless he is afloat and continues to shit like a bunch of liberals living on state support (why?). The conclusion of Chubais is not worried about the lack of electricity, he needs a lot, a lot of dough into the wind from which he promises us to make electricity.
  19. Nix1986
    Nix1986 31 October 2017 07: 00 New
    +6
    This dude of itself marks a crisis, a crisis in the penal system.
  20. midivan
    midivan 31 October 2017 07: 11 New
    +7
    [/ quote] Further, Chubais actually switched to advertising RUSNANO projects, announcing that programs in the field of wind generators and the generation of electric energy by burning garbage can help Russia “overcome the crisis soon”. According to Chubais, by 2024, up to 6 GW of so-called “green” capacities can be commissioned. [Quote]
    What kind of windmills are these and incinerators and how many should there be? If - the Rostov nuclear power plant - is located in the Rostov region of Russia, 12 km from the city of Volgodonsk on the banks of the Tsimlyansk reservoir. The electric power of the three operating power units is 3,1 GW. - Again, you darken a red-haired female dog am
  21. Oleg Andreev
    Oleg Andreev 31 October 2017 07: 18 New
    +1
    And it’s nuno for you, such a “nano”!
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 1 November 2017 19: 59 New
      0
      onanotechnology, onan budget, onanoeconomics
  22. Cat Marquis
    Cat Marquis 31 October 2017 07: 23 New
    +6
    Maybe the dude was seriously interested in "cryptocurrencies" and he doesn’t have enough electricity to "mine"? Or did he and his friends “curly hair” and “count” decide to “save Russia” by covering the whole country with “mining farms”? That's the “curl” with the “count” to the Darkest, all ears buzzed about the “crypto” type, what an opportunity, what an opportunity to fill the budget and, in the future, “get away from the dollar” and other currencies in general. wink
  23. cobalt
    cobalt 31 October 2017 07: 23 New
    10
    Translation of Chubais’s speech into normal language: Urgently give a lot of money to a nanoelectric power station, otherwise we have all been stolen, drank and skipped, and soon the new year, but no money, but what about the corporate party, and the annual exorbitant bonus, I don’t live like that not used to, give money urgently.
    1. askort154
      askort154 31 October 2017 07: 54 New
      +5
      cobalt...... we drank and walked, and soon the new year, but there is no money, but what about the corporate party, and the annual exorbitant bonus ...


      The most amazing thing is that this "video" was shown throughout the country.
      And it is not surprising that no reaction, either from the Kremlin or from the Duma.
      1. Krabik
        Krabik 1 November 2017 13: 50 New
        0
        In the Kremlin, hoping that Chubais will not reach their paws.

        And the thought was so quiet after his speech.

        There, how everything works, if Chubais does not receive the loot, he will take it himself ...
  24. Sars
    Sars 31 October 2017 07: 23 New
    +1
    But what about a self-regulating market economy? The experiment failed?
  25. MadCat
    MadCat 31 October 2017 07: 30 New
    0
    Well, nothing, it will be possible to buy it for example in Germany, they just got excesses from wind generators ... and then they will yell "turn off the switch," it's fun, isn't it wassat
  26. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 31 October 2017 07: 40 New
    13
    The abomination is walking, he himself did everything to destroy the country's economy, he launched the process of impoverishment and extinction of the population, and now he broadcasts that there will be an energy crisis in the country. I don’t have the strength to listen to Chubais, Gref and the like, they are inhumane, their statements show a purpose: to destroy the population of the country and Russian statehood.
    The citizens of the country at the time of the reign of this non-people had accumulations: in the savings bank, in insurance funds. In addition, a significant share in the property of enterprises was the property of the collective: earned profits were not paid in the form of a salary, but were invested in social facilities. In the process of privatization, personal and collective property was alienated. Fraud companies were organized, claiming that vouchers would be invested in the oil industry, in fact, everything contributed to these funds became personal property. Only fraudsters with secured auctions were allowed to the oil industry. The people at once deprived of all personal savings, work, then the period of non-payment of salaries even began to those who worked. And now: people have privatized apartments, and the lion's share of the income goes to the maintenance of common property, which includes the entire urban infrastructure. The endless increase in housing and communal services payments is also fraud: the standards contain outrageous volumes, that is, the population consumes 1/3 of the gas of paid gas, and 2/3 is the free volume of products for sale: they are well settled, they still cry about the need to increase prices. Truly greed is insatiable. The population can’t accumulate: inflation eats up much more than compensation takes place, lagging behind in the best case by a year and in size: since 2014, the ruble has depreciated by half, food has doubled in price, and compensation is 4% per year, and should be- 100 %. Already, the presidential candidate appeared with deep conviction that the country's citizens are subhuman. I do not know what kind of punishment the monster deserves, saying that it is normal if 20 million citizens of the country die out. They died out, did not give birth, the next stage of extinction begins: there is no money in the budget, citizens of the country did not give birth to slaves. Maybe now Chubais will give birth, or it will contain the country from his funds received when cutting the budget! This is not democracy and freedom of speech, this is propaganda of the genocide of the people of the country: what grefs, Chubais, doggies and the like are talking about.
    1. Krabik
      Krabik 1 November 2017 14: 00 New
      0
      Actually, Gref turned him from a garbage Sberbank into a normal bank.

      Can Gref be seen in similar jokes, like Chubais with vouchers and division of RES?
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 1 November 2017 20: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: Krabik
        Can Gref be seen in similar jokes, like Chubais with vouchers and division of RES?

        It is noted that the Sberbank from the state office of Sberkasy turned into a private one, where 30 shares belong to Americans. And 19 it is not clear to whom.
      2. olimpiada15
        olimpiada15 2 November 2017 07: 41 New
        +1
        Gref is still that type. He belongs to the statement, the meaning of which: the people should be stupid and not understand what is happening, that is, the meaning of his activity of manipulating the human consciousness. Firstly, the working team needs smart people, a positive assessment of the activities of a new employee is enough on the fly, owns a situation, a kindergarten "how to do it" is not needed, the result is important, it’s easier to manage those who set the task, and how to get the result the employee He thinks for himself. Managing stupid isn't easier. About SB. This bank is in a privileged position: payments from the budget are transferred to the Security Council, which distributes these funds to the accounts of recipients in the respective banks, credited within 3 days. Those. in this bank all budget payments are constantly slightly delayed and all the information is accumulated, okay about pensioners, but also the data of all special services employees, therefore, there is an increased interest in the bank. And the audit is conducted by foreign companies. Putin said well about Kozyrev about the presence of a skull without brains, it is a pity that the absence of brains was not seen among the leaders of the Russian Federation today.
        1. Krabik
          Krabik 2 November 2017 17: 05 New
          0
          The meaning of all leaders is the manipulation of employees.

          Before Gref, the bank was very backward.

          It is logical that the SB is in a better position than other banks because through it spend a lot of budget money.

          But I never heard why Gref was put on a par with Chubais!
          1. olimpiada15
            olimpiada15 2 November 2017 17: 36 New
            0
            "The meaning of all leaders is the manipulation of employees." I don’t know where you worked, but this phrase struck me. In production, there is no time for manipulations with employees, the main thing is to organize work, people who make rational decisions independently are valued, manipulators are not needed. As for Gref, who needs a people who do not understand what is happening. This crime is also akin to genocide. Today's information environment is numbing, children have become different: geniuses in computers and suckers in life, they don’t understand the danger, they don’t understand that they are doing badly.
            1. Krabik
              Krabik 2 November 2017 18: 04 New
              0
              So “the main thing is to organize work” can be called “employee manipulation”, the meaning is the same, to make the employees do what the manager needs, and the rest is a pun.

              And Gref could just mess up saying "you need a people who do not understand what is happening."
              Could just snicker and lose the smell of blotting out such a thing.

              And for your information, not only Gref squinted, but also the entire leadership of the country, including Lavrov and Putin.

              Only now, Chubais has concrete things for which we all love him and value Gref and such a love of the people for his person, clearly far away%)
  27. Pups
    Pups 31 October 2017 07: 54 New
    0
    We'll have to go to Siberia for firewood.
  28. cedar
    cedar 31 October 2017 08: 07 New
    +3
    With chubays we reach the handle.
  29. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 31 October 2017 08: 18 New
    +3
    Before putting your hands on Claudia, you need to think about what to write and if you understand what you want to write about ... Experts ... Gyy ...
    RAO FGC UES under Chubais included only networks, in fact. That is, TRANSMISSION OF ELECTRICITY And the entire generation was put into separate AOs and Chubais had nothing to do with them. And over the past 25 years, the networks have been greatly modernized. The exception is the last 5 years, when due to the ban on tariff growth, there is no money not only for new construction, but also for major repairs. In fact, over 5 years, only the substations through which the Crimea was supplied were modernized. And Chubais in the quoted passage speaks of the lack of GENERATING capacities, which are now concentrated in the so-called OGK, THC, etc. And now the choice is simple, either to raise pensions and supply the army, or quickly build new blocks of nuclear power plants. And they only begin to withdraw, without replacing the power.

    Experts .... Sofa warriors ..
    1. ando_bor
      ando_bor 31 October 2017 08: 32 New
      0
      Quote: Captain Nemo
      Before you put your hands on Claudia, you need to think about what to write and if you understand what you want to write about ... Experts ...

      The experts are social creatures, not special ones, they’re like dogs to bark,
      what’s what and why? - they don’t care, but here such an “elephant” drew.
      1. midivan
        midivan 31 October 2017 20: 47 New
        +1
        Quote: ando_bor
        The experts are social creatures, not special ones, they’re like dogs to bark,
        what’s what and why? - they don’t care, but here such an “elephant” drew.

        For some reason, now I remember the cartoon “Mowgli”, there was one character there who you look like now wink Well, tell me what's what, to make it clear. And then how it is, the redhead lifted, lifted Russia, and here it was eaten up not by the smell of tobacco, but by the character above who, apparently from that cohort of liberals, is unaware that when the forelock opens its mouth the people are alarmed and it doesn’t matter what it had to do with it, it’s the fact that he is alive and moving ideas already makes you strain and if in his words there is a rational grain after his "work" he does not deserve trust in life already!
  30. Gardamir
    Gardamir 31 October 2017 08: 25 New
    0
    Glory to Chubais and the one who holds the redhead in power!
  31. Million
    Million 31 October 2017 08: 36 New
    +2
    He ruined everything, but now he makes statements
  32. Loess
    Loess 31 October 2017 08: 47 New
    +4
    And we are planning to close the state district power station ... like it’s getting more expensive electricity from it ... two power units are still working, the third one has not been launched, they are already selling it for spare parts ...
  33. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 31 October 2017 08: 54 New
    +2
    But is it not his fault in the collapse of the UES of the Russian Federation?
  34. popandopulo
    popandopulo 31 October 2017 08: 58 New
    +5
    Again the red rat crawled out of the garbage dump with its plague, tularemia and other leptospirosis. It is time in the country to carry out deratization.
  35. Nemesis
    Nemesis 31 October 2017 09: 17 New
    +4
    Crisis organizer Chubais
  36. gukoyan
    gukoyan 31 October 2017 09: 30 New
    +1
    Samopiar no more.
  37. afrikanez
    afrikanez 31 October 2017 09: 31 New
    +4
    It turns out that Chub is engaged in burning garbage in Rusnanno and for this he is pulling “loot” from the budget!
  38. AKsvlad047
    AKsvlad047 31 October 2017 09: 36 New
    +2
    Unsinkable shit! It's time to get rid of the remnants of the 90s! They pull us back!
  39. JonnyT
    JonnyT 31 October 2017 09: 38 New
    +2
    Ugh, disgusting! This thief destroyed a unified power grid - sawed poles, cut lines, sold substations, and now he is lobbying for low-power and expensive windmills! The most annoying thing is that this bastard will surely support kudrin and associates! I hope there will be robust forces and will not allow these scammers to deceive the peoples of Russia again for money, simultaneously destroying the already constructed and existing energy supply facilities
  40. Cat Marquis
    Cat Marquis 31 October 2017 09: 40 New
    +2
    Well, that’s what “Chubais life-giving does!” I just hinted at the “impending energy crisis” and at once so many media reports on this subject! http://finobzor.ru/49133-rossiya-investirovala-re
    kordnuyu-summu-v-alternativnuyu-energetiku.html
    http://finobzor.ru/49131-pravitelstvo-obyavilo-v-
    rossii-elektromobilizaciyu.html
    http://finobzor.ru/49134-edinstvennaya-v-mire-pat
    es-podrobnosti-stroitelstva-unikalnogo-proekta-rf
    .html
    It turns out we were going to be transplanted to electric vehicles ..... it’s like .... But health and education should be paid, but one thing doesn’t interfere with the other. It will be like "like in his lovely Europeans." winked
  41. Topotun
    Topotun 31 October 2017 09: 48 New
    +4
    When will there finally be an imminent crisis of this red-headed “miracle”? Our power engineers still remember him and are mostly obscene.
  42. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 31 October 2017 10: 10 New
    +2
    I agree that as long as Chubais and, with him, are fueling the Russian economy, a crisis cannot be avoided, because people like him, belching 90s, can only steal and ruin.
  43. tank66
    tank66 31 October 2017 10: 11 New
    +2
    There is, sorry, Jewish, the term "hutspa". Like, when a young man-killer of his own parents is being tried, and he asks for leniency on the grounds that he is an orphan ... Chebak still has to run for President of the Russian Federation so that everyone is numb.
  44. Million
    Million 31 October 2017 10: 15 New
    +1
    Putin's favorite! Or a very necessary person
  45. tihon4uk
    tihon4uk 31 October 2017 10: 20 New
    +4
    Googlity gentlemen, this Gusk bisnisman said a couple of months ago that in Russia there was an oversupply of power and it would be nice to shut down some stations, but now it says something else!
    1. Bulrumeb
      Bulrumeb 31 October 2017 10: 26 New
      +2
      and he saw a new feeding trough somewhere
  46. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 31 October 2017 10: 26 New
    0
    The head of the state-owned company Rosnano, Anatoly Chubais, in an interview with Rossiyskaya Gazeta, said of the “inevitability of the energy crisis” for Russia. According to Chubais, if nothing is changed today, then through 6-7, Russia will no longer have enough power to produce electricity, which will lead to acute crisis phenomena.

    and only Chubais will save us by itself laughing laughing laughing
  47. NordUral
    NordUral 31 October 2017 10: 34 New
    +3
    The result of your "reforms", red-haired bastard eye.
  48. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 31 October 2017 10: 34 New
    0
    I think Anatoly Borisovich will cope and save us all from the energy crisis, because he is not the first time to rescue a Russian girl. smile
  49. Evgeny RS
    Evgeny RS 31 October 2017 10: 56 New
    +2
    The main thing is that he has nothing to do with energy.
  50. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 31 October 2017 11: 38 New
    +2
    This redhead bitch created a crisis back in 1992, which continues to this day. And the first two persons indulge him, because a countryman.
    "Well, how can you not please your little man!" ©