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The Catalan government refused to recognize its removal from power

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Regional authorities of Catalonia, suspended from work by the Prime Minister of Spain, Mariano Rajoy, plan to try to continue the work, reports EFE news agency citing sources familiar with the situation.


According to their information, in the Catalan government do not intend to recognize themselves dismissed from power. Moreover, they plan to start implementing a number of steps as stipulated in the declaration of independence approved by the Catalan Parliament. In particular, the resigned leaders of Catalonia want to analyze the situation after the initiatives of Madrid to restore constitutional order in autonomy.

The Catalan government refused to recognize its removal from power


Shortly after this report, the head of the Catalan executive, Carles Puchdemon, said he did not recognize the order of Madrid to remove him from power.

In a democratic society, the function of choosing the government is the parliament (and not the Spanish Cabinet of Ministers - note)
- He explained during the televised address.

Pucdemon promised to continue the peaceful struggle for the independence of Catalonia. According to him, for this he is ready to use exclusively democratic mechanisms.

We do not believe in power solutions. We will continue to work on building a free country.
- he explained.

As reported, the Government of Spain has previously dismissed the regional government of Catalonia and dissolved the Catalan parliament, after which Madrid took control of this autonomous community.

Today, the Spanish authorities have published an order from Prime Minister Rajoy, according to which Deputy Prime Minister Soraya Saenz de Santamaría takes control of Catalonia. The order confirms the removal from power of the government of the autonomy, the majority of whose functions will be assumed by de Santamaría.

The government also announced that the Spanish Interior Minister Juan Ignacio Soido is now leading the forces of the Catalan police, reports "Interfax".
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  1. Proxima
    Proxima 28 October 2017 16: 17 New
    +8
    All this is mouse fuss. Spain will never allow Catalonia to secede by political means. And if the Catalans try to solve the problem by force, then Madrid will act with them like the Basques, that is, they will respond to terror with the same terror, only at the level of army units.
    1. The black
      The black 28 October 2017 16: 18 New
      +4
      Need Spanish Tatars, win nests in Catalan supports wassat.... Kosovo goes west sideways ...
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 28 October 2017 16: 24 New
        31
        The course of jamon will collapse! ...
        My father-in-law yesterday after the bath recognized the independence of Catalonia on the 18th glass.
        At first there was no quorum, then a neighbor pulled himself up who turned out to be a reactionary (supported by Madrid) There was a hot discussion, they even whipped each other with brooms
        In short, Puigkamet, hold on. Behind us - like a stone wall!smile
        1. The black
          The black 28 October 2017 16: 26 New
          +8
          Quote: Thrall
          The jamon course will collapse. smile

          But fat will become hard currency smile
          1. The black
            The black 28 October 2017 16: 37 New
            +5
            My father-in-law yesterday after the bath recognized the independence of Catalonia on the 18th glass.
            The Basques await you next weekend. Bring freedom to the Basques! laughing
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 28 October 2017 20: 04 New
              +2
              I believe that each state should have its own monetary system for the country's financial capital. Catalans cannot do without it. It is unlikely that they thought this through. Moreover, the finances of all the national banks of the countries of the world are under the control of the Rothschild clan in the US Federal Reserve.
              So without the Rothschilds, the Catalans and the Spanish kingdom just can not do!
              We will soon see what the “USA” is up to for the future of the peoples of Spain.
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 28 October 2017 21: 51 New
                +2
                "Moreover, the finances of all national banks of the world are under the control of the Rothschild clan in the US Federal Reserve." ////

                Again these jokes? recourse
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 29 October 2017 00: 00 New
                  +4
                  voyaka uh
                  Again these jokes?
                  Alexei! I’m tired of answering this question. I answer for the last time!
                  An interesting article was published on November 16.11.2016, XNUMX, which concerns both this and other aspects of political life. Namely, "Rothschild built financial troops" with a "complete" LIST OF BANKS, cat. are controlled by the Rothschilds as recognized by the Rothschilds themselves:
                  Here is the list:
                  1. Bank of Afghanistan. 2. Bank of Albania. 3. Bank of Algeria. 4. Central Bank of Argentina. 5. Central Bank of Armenia. 6. Aruba Central Bank. 7. Reserve Bank of Australia. 8. Austrian National Bank. 9. Central Bank of the Republic of Azerbaijan. 10. Bahamas Central Bank. 11. Bahrain Central Bank. 12. Bangladesh Bank. 13. Central Bank of Barbados. 14. National Bank of the Republic of Belarus. 15. National Bank of Belgium. 16. Central Bank of Belize. 17. Central Bank of West African States (CBZAG). 18. Monetary Authority of Bermuda. 19. Royal Monetary Authority of Bhutan. 20. Central Bank of Bolivia. 21. Central Bank of Bosnia and Herzegovina. 22. Bank of Botswana. 23. Central Bank of Brazil. 24. Bulgarian People's Bank. 25. Burkina Faso: Central Bank of West African States (CBZAG). 26. Bank of the Republic of Burundi. 27. National Bank of Cambodia. 28. Rune came: Bank of Central African States. 29. Bank of Canada-Banque du Canada. 30. Cayman Islands Monetary Authority. 31. Central African Republic: Bank of Central African States. 32. Chad: Bank of Central African States. 33. Central Bank of Chile. 34. People's Bank of China. 35. Colombia: Bank of the Republic. 36. Central Bank of Comoros. 37. Congo: Bank of Central African States. 38. Central Bank of Costa Rica. 39. Côte d'Ivoire: Central Bank of West African States (CBZAG). 40. Croatian National Bank. 41. Central Bank of Cuba. 42. Central Bank of Cyprus. 43. Czech Republic: Czech National Bank. 44. National Bank of Denmark. 45. Central Bank of the Dominican Republic. 46. East Caribbean: East Caribbean Central Bank. 47. Central Bank of Ecuador. 48. Central Bank of Egypt. 49. Central Reserve Bank of El Salvador. 50. Equatorial Guinea: Bank of Central African States. 51. Bank of Estonia 52. National Bank of Ethiopia. 53. European Union: European Central Bank. 54. Reserve Bank of Fiji. 55. Bank of Finland. 56. Bank of France 57. Gabon: Bank of Central African States. 58. The Central Bank of The Gambia. 59. National Bank of Georgia. 60. Germany: Deutsche Bundesbank. 61. Bank of Ghana. 62. Bank of Greece 63. Bank of Guatemala. 64. Guinea-Bissau: Central Bank of West African States (CBZAG). 65. Bank of Guyana. 66. Central Bank of Haiti. 67. Central Bank of Honduras. 68. Monetary Authority of Hong Kong. 69. Hungary: Hungarian National Bank. 70. Central Bank of Iceland. 71. Reserve Bank of India. 72. Bank of Indonesia. 73. Iran: Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran. 74. Central Bank of Iraq. 75. Ireland: Central Bank and Financial Services Authority of Ireland. 76. Bank of Israel 77. Bank of Italy. 78. Bank of Jamaica. 79. Bank of Japan 90. Central Bank of Jordan. 91. National Bank of Kazakhstan. 92. Kenya Central Bank. 93. Bank of Korea 94. Kuwait Central Bank. 95. Kyrgyzstan: National Bank of the Kyrgyz Republic. 96. Bank of Latvia 97. Central Bank of Lebanon. 98. Central Bank of Lesotho. 99. Libyan Central Bank (their last conquest). 100. Central Bank of Uruguay. 101. Bank of Lithuania 102. Central Bank of Luxembourg. 103. Macao Monetary Authority. 104. National Bank of the Republic of Macedonia. 105. Central Bank of Madagascar. 106. Reserve Bank of Malawi. 107. Central Bank of Malaysia. 108. Mali: Central Bank of West African States (CBZAG). 109. Central Bank of Malta. 110. Bank of Mauritius. 111. Bank of Mexico. 112. National Bank of Moldova. 113. Bank of Mongolia. 114. Central Bank of Montenegro. 115. Bank of Morocco. 116. Bank of Mozambique. 117. Bank of Namibia. 118. Central Bank of Nepal. 119. Dutch bank. 120. Bank of the Netherlands Antilles. 121. Reserve Bank of New Zealand. 122. Central Bank of Nicaragua. 123. Niger: Central Bank of West African States (CBZAG). 124. Central Bank of Nigeria. 125. Central Bank of Norway. 126. Central Bank of Oman. 127. State Bank of Pakistan. 128. Bank of Papua New Guinea. 129. Central Bank of Paraguay. 130. Central Reserve Bank of Peru. 131. Philip Pines: Philippines. 132. National Bank of Poland. 133. Bank of Portugal 134. Qatar Central Bank. 135. National Bank of Romania. 136. National Bank of Rwanda. 137. Central Bank of the Republic of San Marino. 138. Central Bank of Samoa. 139. Saudi Arabia: Monetary Agency of Saudi Arabia. 140. Senegal: Central Bank of West African States (CBZAG). 141. National Bank of Serbia. 142. Central Bank of Seychelles. 143. Sierra Leone: Bank of Sierra Leone. 144. Singapore: Monetary Authority of Singapore. 145. National Bank of Slovakia. 146. Slovenia: Bank of Slovenia. 147. Central Bank of the Solomon Islands. 148. South African Reserve Bank. 149. Bank of Spain. 150. Central Bank of Sri Lanka. 151. Bank of Sudan. 152. Suriname Central Bank. 153. Central Bank of Swaziland. 154. Swedish Riksbank. 155. Swiss national bank. 156. National Bank of Tajikistan. 157. Tanzania: Bank of Tanzania. 158. Bank of Thailand. 159. That, as the Central Bank of West African States (CBZAG). 160. National Reserve Bank of Tonga. 161. Central Bank of Trinidad and Tobago. 162. Central Bank of Tunisia. 163. Central Bank of the Republic of Turkey. 164. Bank of Uganda. 165. National Bank of Ukraine. 166. Central Bank of the United Arab Emirates. 167. United Kingdom: Bank of England. 168. USA: Federal Reserve, Federal Reserve Bank of New York. 169. Reserve Bank of Vanuatu. 170. Central Bank of Venezuela. 171. State Bank of Vietnam. 172. Central Bank of Yemen. 173. Bank of Zambia. 174.
                  First of all. The list contains 174 banks, while UN member countries 193 and the Rothschilds are rumored to have UNLIMITED influence in all of these countries, with the exception of 5.
                  Second. The list also includes banks that the Rothschilds do not own, which means they have some other leverage.
                  TOTAL One can guess from this what policy, contrary to common sense, the UN and all other international “offices” will conduct in relation to the Russian Federation and OTHER countries.
                  For example. There is a war going on in Syria, and this is probably the BIG SHARE OF ROTHSCHIL'S GUILT - the recognized "controller of the State Banks".
                  Your Bank of Israel in this list of Rothschild is also under number 76!
                  See in detail - http://finobzor.ru/show-25637-rotshild-vystroil-f
                  inansovye-voyska.html
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 29 October 2017 00: 25 New
                    +2
                    voyaka uh
                    "Moreover, the finances of all the national banks of the countries of the world are under the control of the Rothschild clan in the US Federal Reserve."

                    Again these jokes? recourse

                    Alexei! Before clinging skeptically to my comments, I would have rummaged around on the Internet myself! There is a lot of material about the Rothschilds and his clan! And then I always get "material for you.
                  2. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 29 October 2017 06: 46 New
                    0
                    And not just one Russian? )))
                    These are rumors. Especially delivered about Qatar, Iran, Saudi Arabia, the Fed and Afghanistan, for which the Rothschilds are steam huts with ionizers)))
                    Yes, yes, in the States, Jews are not allowed close to commercial banks
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 29 October 2017 12: 49 New
                      0
                      Krasnodar
                      And not just one Russian? )))
                      Rothschild built his financial troops against Russia! Why would he give out his agents in Russia itself? Well think !!!
                      By the way, we Russians know about them anyway! They are tired of us all!
                  3. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh 29 October 2017 11: 36 New
                    +3
                    "It's a rumor" ///

                    This is complete nonsense. Reprint from the yellow Russian-language resource, which in turn copied from the slop English-language resource.
                    So conspiracy theorists work. The slop resource creates a fake and from it three dozen of the same sites are rewritten from the chain. And readers, like Tatyana, are excited either by the incredible power of the Rothschilds or by the Rockefellers (from whom the nasty Rothschilds stole
                    all banks apparently? belay ), then Morgan, then Soros.
                    In fact, the Rothschilds own 2 banks:
                    1) N M Rothschild & Sons Ltd in the United Kingdom 2) Edmond de Rothschild Group in Switzerland
                    The Rothschilds make a profit of about 1,5 billion dollars a year (data from 2016), anacopulated over many years approximately (for the whole family) 350-500 billion dollars.
                    This is a lot, but incomparably smaller than most of Forbes.
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 29 October 2017 12: 29 New
                      0
                      Krasnodar
                      These are rumors.

                      voyaka uh
                      In fact, the Rothschilds own 2 banks:
                      1) N M Rothschild & Sons Ltd in the United Kingdom 2) Edmond de Rothschild Group in Switzerland
                      The Rothschilds make a profit of about 1,5 billion dollars a year (data from 2016), anacopulated over many years approximately (for the whole family) 350-500 billion dollars.
                      This is a lot, but incomparably smaller than most of Forbes.

                      Alexei! Then take not the "tabloid" author, as you say, but data of Russian economist Valentin Katasonov. He has an article "How can the" poor "Rothschilds rule the world?" dated May 5, 2017, in which he writes:
                      Финансовые показатели компании миллиардера-одиночки Уоррена Баффета в десятки раз превышают совокупные показатели всей империи Ротшильдов, объединившихся под знаменем финансового холдинга Rothschild & Co! Чтобы как-то снять очевидное противоречие между признанием реального влияния Ротшильдов на мировую политику и их довольно скромным имущественным статусом, эксперты вынуждены запускать в оборот совершенно другие цифры, отталкиваясь от тех объёмов капитала, которыми располагали Ротшильды в XIX веке и исходя из предположения, что их богатство с тех пор по крайней мере не уменьшилось.
                      So, Nicholas Hagger in the sensational book “Syndicate. The history of the creation of a secret world government and methods of its impact on world politics and the economy "(Nicolas Hagger. The Syndicate. The Story of the Coning World Government. O Books, 2004) writes:" And how to evaluate the wealth of the Rothschilds? As a rule, dynastic families are excluded from the list of the richest people in the world. If the Rothschilds had $ 1850 billion in 6 (the lowest estimate), then, assuming that the foundations of their wealth were not shaken, this money should have been invested in such a way as to bring from 4 to 8 percent per year, which gives us figures from 1,9 trillion to 491 trillion dollars (that is, more than the world's wealth according to our estimates). We take the most conservative estimate - that is, about 409 trillion.
                      For comparison, we say that the state of Bill Gates in 2004 was estimated at 32 billion dollars. If we take into account that having a little more than 300 billion, today you can buy all the gold stored in all banks in the world, and that the US national debt is (for 2004) $ 7,5 trillion, then the position of the Rothschilds in the financial world becomes clear. ”
                      In modern literature, the assessment of the actual property status of the Rothschild clan most often fluctuates around the level of 3 trillion dollars. At the same time, it is emphasized that the Rockefeller clan has capital of about 1 trillion. dollars less.
                      Well, we can agree that the real financial and property status of the Rothschilds is not reflected in the financial statements of the companies and banks controlled by them, as well as in Forbes ratings. The question arises: How to explain such a discrepancy? I will name THREE VERSIONS.

                      See in detail - https://topwar.ru/114938-kak-nebogatye-rotshildy-
                      mogut-upravlyat-mirom.html
                      1. voyaka uh
                        voyaka uh 29 October 2017 16: 02 New
                        0
                        "experts have to put completely different numbers into circulation,
                        starting from the volumes of capital that the Rothschilds possessed
                        in the XNUMXth century and based on the assumption that their wealth has since
                        least not diminished. "///

                        Experts "FORCED" "proceed from the assumption" ////

                        And are these "experts"?
                        Aren't you ashamed to pass such filkin letters of fact?
                        Was Kasatonov shy and wrote about "assumptions"?
                        And the banks do not go broke sometimes? In Russia - 3 per month. And in America, bankrupt in Europe. Like private firms. And states declare defaults, and central banks.
                        Together with invested Rothschild money and stocks.
                        "Based on the assumption that all the contributions of the Rodschilds were burned out in defaults, nationalizations and global economic crises, I (" EXPERT - warrior wow " wassat ) I conclude that they are paupers on the porch "- the same fake conclusion as in your yellow sites negative
                    2. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 30 October 2017 00: 48 New
                      0
                      voyaka uh
                      Aren't you ashamed to pass such filkin letters of fact?
                      Was Kasatonov shy and wrote about "assumptions"?
                      Alexei! Have you read the whole article or just what I wrote? Your reasoning is strange.
                      Alexei! Remain in your opinion. We in our country know better what the Rothschilds are doing! I personally have no faith in you. I tell you about Thomas - you tell me about Yeryoma! Again I need to look for materials for you about the Rothschilds, which I don’t have at hand right now. I need time for this. I just don’t have so much time to squander it in our fruitless discussions.
                      Want to add someone else besides the Rothschilds here? Add! I'm not against! We will find out who else for us Russians is the Zionist usurious warrior!
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 30 October 2017 01: 13 New
                        0
                        voyaka uh
                        And the banks do not go broke sometimes? In Russia - 3 per month. And in America, bankrupt in Europe. Like private firms. And states declare defaults, and central banks.

                        Remember, Alex! When you say that banks go bankrupt, then bankers themselves do not go bankrupt - they simply "throw" their depositors! And these same bankers, with stolen money and assets, open new banks - under a different name and with a different nominal CEO!
                        All these banks, as interconnected vessels, work on the principle of network marketing. Like a "pyramid". Only those at the very top of the "pyramid" are enriched. It seems that you yourself never opened your own business.
                2. Orionvit
                  Orionvit 29 October 2017 07: 29 New
                  +1
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  Again these jokes?

                  Well, isn't the Fed anymore a private office? laughing
            2. AID.S
              AID.S 28 October 2017 23: 35 New
              +3
              Quote: Black
              The Basques await you next weekend. Bring freedom to the Basques!

              Freedom to Baskov !!!!
          2. 210ox
            210ox 28 October 2017 19: 31 New
            +1
            Yeah .. If the hryvnia is needed only in the toilet ..
            Quote: Black
            Quote: Thrall
            The jamon course will collapse. smile

            But fat will become hard currency smile
        2. sabakina
          sabakina 28 October 2017 16: 44 New
          +7
          Thrall, I have two questions.
          1. Why do you have a bath on Friday? Was it always like Saturday in Russia?
          2. Why did you peel the leaves from your broom?
          But seriously, no one will let anyone go.
          1. The black
            The black 28 October 2017 16: 50 New
            +4
            Quote: sabakina
            But seriously, no one will let anyone go.

            Well, there’s “fifti-fifti” ... it’s clear that the Spaniards shouldn’t let Catalonia go. This is the richest region. And even this is not the main thing! Basques! The next ones will be Basques. so they cannot create a precedent. On the other hand, behind all these protests are people with very large wallets. (After all, it would be impossible without drinking all). Plus the US position .... Yes, in words they are FOR Spain’s unity, but is it really business - a question. Nevertheless, any mess in the EU is beneficial to them! In general ... we will see ...
            1. Pirogov
              Pirogov 28 October 2017 18: 01 New
              +2
              Quote: Black
              Plus, the position of the United States .... Yes, in words they are FOR the unity of Spain, but is this really so - the question. Nevertheless, any mess in the EU is beneficial to them! In general ... we will see

              There’s nothing to watch there, the Catalans are not the people who will fight, chatter and nothing more, and support from the United States and even Martians will not help here. A week or two will pass, Madrid will throw them the bone allocated by Brussels and that will be the end of it.
            2. Orionvit
              Orionvit 29 October 2017 07: 39 New
              0
              Quote: Black
              On the other hand, behind all these protests are people with very large wallets.

              Not quite right, behind all this, people are standing with wallets, and with a dollar printing press. The more chaos there will be in Europe and around the world, the harder the dollar will be.
          2. poquello
            poquello 28 October 2017 17: 45 New
            +2
            Quote: sabakina
            But seriously, no one will let anyone go.

            Seriously? Catalans are not parrots, you can’t cover the cage with a rag
            1. Sharky
              Sharky 28 October 2017 18: 15 New
              +3
              Puigdemon promised to continue the peaceful struggle for the independence of Catalonia

              Here is a consonant surname for PutTchDemon. The putsch demon right laughing.
              About the parrot correctly noticed. They are hot guys, and they can pile on with the whole crowd. We follow the development of events with popcorn and a beer-maker.
        3. 210ox
          210ox 28 October 2017 17: 10 New
          +2
          Just a storm in a glass of water. They will negotiate, burn out. And if it does not work, then everyone will sit down!
          Quote: Thrall
          The course of jamon will collapse! ...
          My father-in-law yesterday after the bath recognized the independence of Catalonia on the 18th glass.
          At first there was no quorum, then a neighbor pulled himself up who turned out to be a reactionary (supported by Madrid) There was a hot discussion, they even whipped each other with brooms
          In short, Puigkamet, hold on. Behind us - like a stone wall!smile
      2. Gray brother
        Gray brother 28 October 2017 16: 32 New
        +9
        Quote: Black
        Need Spanish Tatars, win nests in Catalan supports

        Tse is our original Moorish land. Glory to Mauritania! Mauritania ponad mustache!
        1. poquello
          poquello 28 October 2017 17: 47 New
          +3
          [quote = Gray brother] [quote = Black]
          [/ Quote]
          last frame of an unsuccessful statement
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother 28 October 2017 18: 21 New
            +2
            Quote: poquello
            last frame of an unsuccessful statement

            From this fotik - definitely yes. laughing
          2. Freeman
            Freeman 28 October 2017 18: 22 New
            +1
            Quote: poquello
            poquello Today, 17:47
            last frame of an unsuccessful statement

            That neither. Wi sho? Tsezh is simply a “fighting hopak” lad ladies.
            And so the stinks are quite meek and they love hell more than hell - they will dance to shaw.
      3. Lelek
        Lelek 29 October 2017 13: 16 New
        0
        Quote: Black
        Need the Spanish Tatars,


        Hi, Vyacheslav.
        Why Tatars? There is the ubiquitous “snook zander” - Klimkan has blown up gills on the Spanish problem, as if something depends on the Ruin and someone in “Europe” takes it seriously.
    2. 79807420129
      79807420129 28 October 2017 16: 19 New
      +7
      We do not believe in power solutions. We will continue to work on building a free country.

      Dual power - The second act of Merlezon's ballet. what
      1. Michael HORNET
        Michael HORNET 28 October 2017 16: 23 New
        +3
        Peaceful way of independence is not received. This is not India with its territorial distance from the metropolis and a huge population
    3. win
      win 28 October 2017 16: 24 New
      +4
      Well, just like in Ukraine.
      Kiev does not consent to the Donbass.
      Donetsk and Lugansk - against !!!
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 29 October 2017 07: 48 New
        +2
        Quote: Siegen
        Well, just like in Ukraine.

        Not at all. Donbass with Crimea were forced to secede. There would be no Maidan, there would be no "separatism" in Ukraine. Moreover, what kind of "separatism" is it if the regions do not declare "independence", but about their desire to join back to Russia. So to say return to the family. In all this leapfrog, as in Catalonia, in Ukraine, in Kosovo, and further down the list, there is one common beginning. The ears of the CIA and the State Department are everywhere.
    4. hrych
      hrych 28 October 2017 16: 30 New
      +3
      Quote: Proxima
      Spain will never allow Catalonia to secede

      Let's put it another way that the Spain that we knew will never be the same again am The coup Dimon will show them laughing
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 28 October 2017 18: 01 New
        +3
        hrych hi
        Spain we knew will never be the same again
        Yeah! Francisco come, see the order. Or on the bidet? Well, in general, something like this repeat wassat
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 29 October 2017 13: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: hrych
        Let's put it another way that the Spain that we knew will never be the same again


        Hey. This is so, it will not be the same, but I would like to know what will happen in the near future. By the way, the "Britons" give their forecast on the topic:
        1. hrych
          hrych 29 October 2017 19: 15 New
          +1
          Hi drinks The EU will kill these troubled states where there is strong separatism. Yes, and it's time to overthrow the hated Bourbons
    5. Primoos
      Primoos 28 October 2017 19: 03 New
      +2
      Well, when will they start bombing Barcelona?
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 28 October 2017 21: 26 New
        +2
        Primoos
        Well, when will they start bombing Barcelona?
        They say the other day repeat
  2. Gray brother
    Gray brother 28 October 2017 16: 21 New
    +3
    And is not this Gapon Puchdemon? Right now, the Catalans will be made “democratic mechanisms” - the brains in a bunch to collect tired.
    They beat those who do not give change, but this one is not going to.
    At the same time, everyone else will be shown what happens to the rebellious.
  3. lexx2038
    lexx2038 28 October 2017 16: 27 New
    +1
    Yes, democracy didn’t lie around there. Che, and no one will throw weapons at them to protect their honor and dignity? In boxes, or immediately in the form of bombs.
  4. Herculesic
    Herculesic 28 October 2017 16: 30 New
    +3
    Now the Basques would have succeeded, they would not have chewed snot like the Catalans, they are men with character, they will send Rahoy easily, and if they need to take up arms in defense of independence, the police will quickly disperse the Catalans.
  5. win
    win 28 October 2017 16: 35 New
    +4
    The militants of the so-called anti-terrorist operation in Ukraine turned to the Spanish king.
    In the promulgated video, representatives of the All-Ukrainian Union of ATO Veterans declare
    on the organization of a combat unit to participate in the war against Catalonia, which had declared independence.
    Based on this organization, a battalion of Ukrainian volunteers was formed,
    ready at the "first call of the Spanish people with arms in their hands to go to defend the unity of Spain."
    https://politros.com/armiya/93212/
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 28 October 2017 16: 46 New
      +5
      If these "defenders" of the unity of Spain did not disappear upon arrival in the expanses of the Pirinei Peninsula, finding themselves in the Maidan's dream - at Europa laughing
      1. win
        win 28 October 2017 17: 18 New
        +6
        "defenders" of the unity of Spain

        These "defenders" have not been able to "cope" with themselves for how many years and can "dissolve" without a trace.
        Such a day will come! am
    2. exwarrent
      exwarrent 28 October 2017 17: 58 New
      +1
      "In the evening, camouflage carts with oxen drove into the camp with songs and screeching. It arrived to fight the Ukrainian battalion of chemical protection."
    3. AID.S
      AID.S 29 October 2017 07: 09 New
      0
      Quote: Siegen
      Based on this organization, a battalion of Ukrainian volunteers was formed,

      For the collection of citrus and other agricultural work.
  6. SMP
    SMP 28 October 2017 16: 40 New
    +1
    The Catalan government refused to recognize its removal from power


    The first went, we are waiting for Scotland and Ukraine wink
  7. Holoy
    Holoy 28 October 2017 16: 40 New
    +2
    In fact, in vain the Catalans underestimate the capabilities of Madrid and the Army. They will come and shoot everyone, they have such traditions!
    1. reservist
      reservist 28 October 2017 16: 57 New
      +1
      I was just about to sunbathe on the beaches of Catalonia, to see the sights of Barcelona.
      Alas. belay
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 October 2017 16: 43 New
    0
    All this mess is not clear. Barcelona and so - like cheese in butter ... How easy it is to breed people to all sorts of stupidity. On a nationalistic basis ... People are just being led like preschool children.
    We are ... "by nad use" by birthright. Well, there is something inhuman in this.
    1. reservist
      reservist 28 October 2017 17: 00 New
      +1
      They would increase the level of independence as autonomy within Spain.

      like cheese in butter

      With fat rage.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 28 October 2017 19: 28 New
      0
      Catalonia has been trying to gain independence since the 17th century. Portugal then did, but Catalonia did not. Moreover, France has overcome northern Catalonia.
      Catalonia and Spain are not in economic disputes, but rather political ones. The elites want to secede. They do not need protection from "external enemies". Therefore, they do not need the Spanish army. And his own too. There are factories, tourism, football - why do they need Spain?
  9. padded jacket
    padded jacket 28 October 2017 16: 55 New
    +5
    The United States, as the most democratic democracy, must urgently send Madeleine Albright to Catalonia with a package of cookies to support the free will of the Catalan people and protect freedom lol


    And in the meantime:
    Catalan authorities do not recognize themselves suspended
  10. parusnik
    parusnik 28 October 2017 16: 58 New
    0
    We do not believe in power solutions. We will continue to work on building a free country.
    ... When the Catalan government ascends to Calvary .. they will believe .. On the other hand, the continuation, as Marlezon ballet wrote here, is clearly profitable for someone .. As one Anglo-Saxon said: It’s not bad for it .. It looks so impressive that this decision Puigdemona did not spontaneously .. apparently consulted with someone and this someone promised him support .. But this someone will throw the Catalans when he reaches his goals ...
  11. Roma 1977
    Roma 1977 28 October 2017 17: 09 New
    +4
    It's time to appear "unknown snipers" and "sacred victims." And this is a litmus: if they appear, it means in the United States, if not, then the United States has nothing to do with it, and the protest will be suppressed by the Spanish police.
  12. padded jacket
    padded jacket 28 October 2017 17: 12 New
    +3
    Quote: Holoy
    They will drop in and shoot everyone, they have such traditions!

    In the 21st century? In one of the largest countries in Europe with the silence of the European Union?
    It would be very interesting to look at it.
  13. Pavel Luchenok
    Pavel Luchenok 28 October 2017 17: 30 New
    +8
    Catalonia ended. These cellulite spa resorts Evolutionists will never exchange a warm toilet and supermarket for dirty trenches.
  14. Some kind of compote
    Some kind of compote 28 October 2017 17: 57 New
    17
    The Catalan government refused to recognize its removal from power

    So behind bars
    The rebels are tired
    I hope the Spaniards put things in order
  15. victorrat
    victorrat 28 October 2017 19: 57 New
    0
    Catalonia went all-in! The word is in Madrid, which is still trying to solve everything peacefully. The police were reassigned, the chapter was reassigned. Economically, Catalonia has already lost. A referendum is a declaration of will. Are the Catalans ready to fight for independence? There is no one behind them. Humanitarian aid will not be sent. If Spain gives slack, not only Italy will light up.
  16. Grumant
    Grumant 28 October 2017 20: 39 New
    0
    Puchdemon can only win if PuchVovan stands behind him. winked
  17. APASUS
    APASUS 28 October 2017 22: 44 New
    +1
    I will express my opinion.
    There is no EU right and no freedom!
    That's it!
    Catalonia will not have its own state, how Spain will act, I will not say, but there will not be one!
    Children, wipe your eyes!
  18. Head Physician
    Head Physician 28 October 2017 23: 15 New
    15
    You understand guys whats the matter
    Russia itself is a federation
    Mina has been laid under it since ancient times
    So far, everything has been built on interpersonal relationships of a semi-feudal nature - for example, Putin - Kadyrov - something else somehow.
    What will happen tomorrow?
    Therefore, to rejoice in separatism (and we fought with it in Chechnya) - I believe that we cannot handle any separatism
    1. user1212
      user1212 29 October 2017 06: 03 New
      +2
      Quote: Chief Physician
      Therefore, to rejoice in separatism (and we fought with it in Chechnya) - I believe that we cannot handle any separatism

      Are we really happy? We are rather observing with interest and a bit of humor. Everything would be true if the EU were not so happy with Kosovo’s separatism. And now, I recall, "in international law, there is a ban on the unilateral declaration of independence." We didn’t come up with this.
    2. AID.S
      AID.S 29 October 2017 07: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: Chief Physician
      Therefore, to rejoice in separatism (and we fought with it in Chechnya) - I believe that we cannot handle any separatism

      Ideally, yes, not with your hands, but in a world of double standards, anything can be with your hands. The separatism of Crimea and Donbass saddens some of us.
  19. Manul
    Manul 29 October 2017 02: 08 New
    0
    As a member of the Song and Dance Ensemble of the Order of Lenin of the Leningrad Military District, I went on a tour to Spain in 2001. And for Barcelona I studied the anthem of Catalonia. The anthem of the vanquished. Until now, I almost know the text by heart. You should have seen how people got up in the halls. They always sleep and see themselves not as Spaniards, but as Catalans.

    Encyclopedic Dictionary, 1998
    SEGADOR REBELLION ("war of the reapers") (Spanish: Guerra de los segadores) uprising of 1640-52 Catalans against Spanish absolutism (seeking to deprive Catalonia of autonomy) during the Spanish war with France (1635-59). The Catalan Cortes of 1641 declared the Spanish king as ruler of Catalonia deposed, recognized the sovereignty of France. The Segador rebellion was crushed, but the Spanish king had to reaffirm Catalan privileges with some reservations.

    "Several peasants quarreled with Castilian soldiers, who felt like they were masters in Barcelona. Peasants remembered well how just a few weeks ago these same soldiers burned the Catalan villages. They wounded one reaper, a scream arose, over which several hundred more people escaped. They are an impressive delegation They moved to the Viceroy’s palace to demand justice, but the guards of the palace opened fire, killing one person. It wasn’t worth it. Several hundred brutal peasants armed with sickles turned out to be a terrible force. The massacre of Castilian soldiers and the administration took place in Barcelona for several days under the slogans: “Long live Catalonia!”, “Long live the faith of Christ!”, “Death to a bad government!” The viceroy himself, who was trying to flee to port, also died. This was the beginning of the most famous Catalan rebellion against Spanish rule, which was called “War reapers ", also known as the Segador rebellion."

    http://firstsocial.info/analiz/segadorskoe-vossta
    nie-voyna-za-nezavisimost-katalonii
    This hymn they sing, as we Victory Day. Poems are dedicated specifically to the rebellion of the reapers.
    1. Manul
      Manul 29 October 2017 02: 21 New
      0
      Vidos is unsuccessful, translation into English, well, what to take from the source .. Here it is with pictures at least https://youtu.be/hFV993YEFvU
  20. PalBor
    PalBor 29 October 2017 06: 41 New
    +2
    Hesitated! Decide already for something ... Or ask for help from Russia!
  21. Wolka
    Wolka 29 October 2017 06: 58 New
    0
    is it really war
  22. putnik115
    putnik115 29 October 2017 11: 17 New
    +1
    In general, Europe has historically been a region consisting of rags of national and religious enclaves that have been fighting each other for centuries. This historical xenophobia has not disappeared. European officials played a big role in “united Europe”. They decided that people really turned into a politically correct herd, ready to swallow the implanted tolerance towards pederasts and Muslims. So they began to judge others. Not only to judge, but also to kill - as in Yugoslavia. Now the pendulum has gone the other way. Yes, Madrid in this case may freeze the situation - it will buy someone, it will scare someone. But in no case will it close the question globally. Before that, Scotland and Wales began (it was not in vain that Great Britain hastened to take a break from the European Union). It has not gone anywhere. Even the Huguenots did not remember Bartholomew’s night. And remember, one hundred pounds. So this is just the beginning.
  23. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 29 October 2017 13: 49 New
    +2
    Poor fellows ... they still don’t even imagine what they need to survive in order to REALLY become independent ... Yet no nation in history has received independence without a sea of ​​blood. Do the Catalans have the courage to go to the end. But, in any case, they will be shown in what real TOTALITARISM they live, thinking that they have democracy. Naive fools will first click on their nose and if they don’t calm down, they will bleed ... Yes, and the Catalans' leaders have frank stsykuns, but maybe it will be better to shed less blood, a defeat is inevitable anyway.
  24. Stavros
    Stavros 29 October 2017 16: 16 New
    0
    Now Ukrainians, together with Georgians and Cavatars will tear their ass for the integrity of Spain.
  25. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 30 October 2017 02: 02 New
    0
    Tatyana,
    "All these banks, as interconnected vessels, work on the principle of network marketing" ///

    Communicating vessels are yellow conspiracy sites. Pour from empty to empty on the Internet laughing without end and edge.
    Have you even learned that Rockefeller is not a Jew? You should remember this smallness.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 30 October 2017 21: 22 New
      0
      voyaka uh
      Have you even learned that Rockefeller is not a Jew? You should remember this smallness.

      And we are talking with you about the Rothschilds and their clan!
      That Rockefeller is not a Jew - I hear for the first time! Check it out!
      And than. Why did you decide that I am guided in my worldview only by the Internet? There are a lot of books on this subject! Moreover, on the history of banking and on the banks themselves.
      You, Alexey, have everything that you don’t think is necessarily a “yellow” press!
      Well you give! belay