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NATO: Turkey’s purchase of the C-400 creates a security problem

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The North Atlantic Alliance opposes the acquisition by Turkey of anti-aircraft missile systems (ZRS) C-400 mainly for security reasons, reports RIA News Statement by the Head of the NATO Military Committee, General Peter Pavel.




This is an extremely advanced system that cannot, in part due to technical reasons, but mainly for security reasons, be integrated into the NATO air defense / missile defense system,
said paul.

According to him, “the principle of sovereignty, of course, is valid when purchasing military equipment, but countries are sovereign both when making their decisions and when they have to face the consequences of this decision.”

If a country with a full understanding of the consequences still decides to acquire these funds, then this is its national decision,
stressed the head of the Military Committee.

In addition, the general noted that even as a separate installation, not integrated into the overall system, C-400 in Turkey "will create difficulties for the funds of the allies, which can potentially be located on the territory of this country."

On the part of Turkey’s NATO allies, it will be “quite reasonable to hold a discussion, raising all issues of concern” before the final stage of Ankara’s contract with Moscow, Pavel added.

Recall, Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan 12 of September reported that Ankara has signed an agreement with Moscow on the acquisition of C-400 systems and the deposit has already been made. Assistant to the President of the Russian Federation on military-technical cooperation issues, Vladimir Kozhin, confirmed that Moscow and Ankara signed a contract for the supply of C-400 and is currently preparing for execution.
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  1. himRa
    himRa 26 October 2017 14: 49 New
    +3
    Well, what did you (Nata) want? It’s hard for everyone .... and friend Erdogan needs help ... in vain did they save them from death!
    1. Primoos
      Primoos 26 October 2017 14: 55 New
      10
      It will be necessary for Erdogan to close the sky over the Ingerlik from the mattresses, what will he do? Voila! Piano in the bushes! S-400! And the thing is the hat.
      1. Partyzan
        Partyzan 26 October 2017 15: 09 New
        15
        Quote: Primoos
        Piano in the bushes! S-400! And the thing is the hat.

        1. himRa
          himRa 26 October 2017 15: 33 New
          +3
          Not only that, at the transfer (temporary storage) in Sweden they were looking for bugs in the pipes for the northern stream .... you really want to bring to a heart attack crying
          1. Partyzan
            Partyzan 26 October 2017 15: 37 New
            +7
            Quote: himRa
            you really want to bring to a heart attack

            why to a heart attack - only to the grave laughing
            1. Vladimir16
              Vladimir16 26 October 2017 16: 17 New
              +5
              Head of the NATO Military Committee, General Peter Pavel.

              Dali, damn it, parents name is son! Neither horseradish can understand either Pavel or Petya. laughing
              1. evil partisan
                evil partisan 26 October 2017 18: 55 New
                +2
                Quote: Vladimir16
                Head of the NATO Military Committee, General Peter Pavel.

                Dali, damn it, parents name is son! Neither horseradish can understand either Pavel or Petya. laughing

                Petya Pavel. Togo... repeat
      2. 79807420129
        79807420129 26 October 2017 16: 14 New
        +8
        it is wise to have a discussion raising all the issues of concern

        Don’t write to NATO partners. wink
    2. mishaia_23
      mishaia_23 26 October 2017 18: 29 New
      +3
      It cannot, partly due to technical reasons, but mainly for security reasons, be integrated into NATO's air defense / missile defense system
      It cannot be integrated ...
      Because The S-400 plays a key role in the new concept of the Russian Armed Forces, known in the West as the “Anti-Access / Area Denial (A2 / AD)”, which means that NATO troops cannot be located and move within range A2 / AD restricted area systems without risk of unacceptable damage.
      NATO is a closed flight zone for you. am
    3. Maz
      Maz 27 October 2017 00: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: himRa
      Well, what did you (Nata) want? It’s hard for everyone .... and friend Erdogan needs help ... in vain did they save them from death!

      a clear stump, now you can’t get our drying out of the Ingerlik so easily and you won’t fall on the Turks, you will have to look back at the s-400
    4. hotrod
      hotrod 27 October 2017 12: 28 New
      0
      It seems that the patriot does not shoot patriotically on mattress airplanes
  2. Siberia55
    Siberia55 26 October 2017 14: 57 New
    +3
    “Turkey’s purchase of S-400 poses a security problem”
    Who will create a problem? I think am.
    Security problem in case of disobeying Turkey and the subsequent unmanned zone and bombing of the country.
  3. Nemesis
    Nemesis 26 October 2017 14: 58 New
    +5
    S-400 air defense system in the hands of NATO Turkey, this is primarily a threat to the security of the Russian Federation
    1. bulvas
      bulvas 26 October 2017 15: 53 New
      +4
      Quote: Nemesis
      S-400 air defense system in the hands of NATO Turkey, this is primarily a threat to the security of the Russian Federation


      This is so the presidential candidate Sobchak (forgot his name) said?
      Or Sytin?
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 26 October 2017 16: 04 New
        +3
        I don’t know what Sobchak said there, but to sell the latest air defense systems of Russia to NATO Turkey is high treason
        1. bulvas
          bulvas 26 October 2017 17: 13 New
          +2
          Quote: Nemesis
          I don’t know what Sobchak said there, but to sell the latest air defense systems of Russia to NATO Turkey is high treason


          Explain what cheating?
          1. Nemesis
            Nemesis 26 October 2017 17: 29 New
            +3
            You ask some very naive question ... Turkey is a NATO country, and the S-400 air defense system is the latest air defense system of the Russian Federation. If it falls into the hands of Turkey, the United States will certainly study in detail that it certainly won’t work for the benefit of the Russian Federation ... I’m not saying that Turkey has always supported Islamic terrorists in Chechnya and that now all this pardoned GDP of the Mejlis has pulled to Turkey is not an accident.
            1. bulvas
              bulvas 26 October 2017 17: 39 New
              +6
              Quote: Nemesis
              not an accident.


              what?
              Majlis will receive the secrets of the production of S-400?

              And if he studies the USA, do you think technology will be stolen?
              Or learn to protect their aircraft from the S-400?

              Do you think the US does not own such technologies?
              Or do you think that if you draw a diagram of the wires or the diameter of the fasteners and the shape of the parts, you get the same rocket?

              Or, admit, are you sure that those who decide to sell weapons or not are just dumber than you?

              1. Nemesis
                Nemesis 26 October 2017 18: 48 New
                +2
                What I think and why it’s hard for me to explain to a person who has no idea how the radar works, that its parameters can be studied and suppression tools and other system vulnerabilities found ...
                1. bulvas
                  bulvas 26 October 2017 20: 08 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Nemesis
                  What I think and why it’s hard for me to explain to a person who has no idea how the radar works, that its parameters can be studied and suppression tools and other system vulnerabilities found ...


                  Clear.
                  No clear answer
                  1. Nemesis
                    Nemesis 26 October 2017 23: 40 New
                    +2
                    You don’t hear a clear answer, because they are far from technology ... Each missile has its own parameters for controlling and overloading, on which its maneuverability depends and knowing this, it is possible to develop measures to counter it ... The homing head of a missile, the radar all has certain parameters knowing which can develop means of counteracting them
            2. freddyk
              freddyk 26 October 2017 17: 44 New
              +6
              Quote: Nemesis
              If it falls into the hands of Turkey, it will certainly be studied in detail by the United States,

              Or maybe we need this? She is clearly very truncated. Yes, and how they study by RD-180 is visible. And the Chinese "study" and the Indians. Only the even does not fly at them and does not go
              1. Nemesis
                Nemesis 26 October 2017 18: 50 New
                +2
                Here to ask fewer questions on this topic, google about how the United States studied the S-300 air defense system which all Moscow officials, for whom their pocket is more expensive than their homeland, sold to Greece ... and what did the United States give it ...
                1. AlexG83
                  AlexG83 26 October 2017 20: 57 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Nemesis
                  Here to ask fewer questions on this topic, google about how the United States studied the S-300 air defense system which all Moscow officials, for whom their pocket is more expensive than their homeland, sold to Greece ... and what did the United States give it ...

                  Well, the current leadership has brains, and all the pros and cons (risks / benefits) are calculated. In addition, it is the export version that is being sold, with restrictions and all kinds of bookmarks. No need to panic.
                  1. Nemesis
                    Nemesis 26 October 2017 23: 41 New
                    +1
                    The current leadership is not able to calculate a lot of things and admit its mistakes, which has already been shown more than once ... The S-300 was sold to NATO Greece in the late 90s, when Putin was already in power and Yeltsin was in hospital ... what made it possible for the United States to study the S-300 .... $ 750 million to Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan and $ 3 billion to Ukraine was personally presented to Putin, as if there were no problems in Russia, and the debts of Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan had already been written off ... officially.
            3. ochakow703
              ochakow703 27 October 2017 05: 57 New
              +1
              Well, you are Nemesis ... further along Zadornov. You might think the export option involves revealing secrets? After all, a hedgehog is understandable that the characteristics of one and one sold are two different things. And in general I am silent about terrorists in Chechnya, at one time they were supervised by a whole Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, and infa went to them almost from the General Staff - so now?
              1. Nemesis
                Nemesis 27 October 2017 06: 46 New
                +1
                You think in vain that the export version is 100% different from the original ... So for example, having an export MiG-29B, you can study most of the parameters of the MiG-29s that were in service with the USSR ... They do not differ in maneuverability and overload capabilities , and knowing these parameters the enemy is already easier to find countermeasures. In addition, now it is not the USSR and the same Su-30 was exported, including in the same configuration. What is in service with the Russian Armed Forces?
  4. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 26 October 2017 15: 01 New
    +1
    The main thing there is to properly rebuild a friend or foe system. Someone is afraid to be a stranger. :))
  5. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 26 October 2017 15: 11 New
    +3
    which cannot, partly due to technical reasons, but mainly for security reasons, be integrated into NATO's air defense / missile defense system,
    Well, what's the problem? All other NATO countries will also sell the S-400 and control and intelligence systems and everything will be coupled. smile
  6. assa67
    assa67 26 October 2017 15: 17 New
    +3
    I repeat .... first the "Turkish stream", then the S-400 .... in any other way ... how much can you attack the same rake with the Ottomans?
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 26 October 2017 17: 57 New
      +4
      Quote: assa67
      I repeat .... first the "Turkish stream", then the S-400 .... in any other way ...

      I would not give them either one!
      1. AlexG83
        AlexG83 26 October 2017 21: 00 New
        +2
        Quote: Stas157
        Quote: assa67
        I repeat .... first the "Turkish stream", then the S-400 .... in any other way ...

        I would not give them either one!

        Here's how you get both of them, then don’t give.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 26 October 2017 21: 07 New
          +8
          Quote: AlexG83
          Quote: Stas157
          Quote: assa67
          I repeat .... first the "Turkish stream", then the S-400 .... in any other way ...

          I would not give them either one!

          That's how you get both, then don’t give.

          good laughing good
          1. assa67
            assa67 26 October 2017 23: 49 New
            +3
            S-400 is already there, let them think
  7. pvv113
    pvv113 26 October 2017 15: 27 New
    +2
    It is an extremely advanced system.

    But what about traditional Russian backwardness and clumsy technology?
    1. Partyzan
      Partyzan 26 October 2017 16: 27 New
      +7
      Quote: pvv113
      But what about traditional Russian backwardness and clumsy technology?

      so clumsy - without one nail done good laughing
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 26 October 2017 16: 33 New
        0
        Are nails sanctioned?
        Hello Volodya!
  8. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 26 October 2017 15: 40 New
    0
    Garant plays out, oh, play out!
    1. AlexG83
      AlexG83 26 October 2017 21: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: Evgeniy667b
      Garant plays out, oh, play out!

      Are you worried about NATO aircraft?
  9. ved_med12
    ved_med12 26 October 2017 15: 40 New
    0
    Another question torments me, WHY ERDOGAN S-400? From whom?
    1. raki-uzo
      raki-uzo 26 October 2017 15: 54 New
      +1
      Tour stream, trade in "tomatoes", Akkuyu, Turkish stream, joint and contact action in Syria - pre-wedding chores.
      Purchase C-400 - engagement ring.
      Do you sniff
      1. ved_med12
        ved_med12 26 October 2017 16: 06 New
        +1
        It is still embarrassing that the biggest "dividends" from the failed coup in Turkey were received by Russia ... Everything, somehow "on time" ... and everyone turned away, except for Russia ...
        Is all this accidental?
  10. Sergey53
    Sergey53 26 October 2017 15: 55 New
    0
    Not worried about this, but about a possible code leak
    1. Santos
      Santos 26 October 2017 16: 05 New
      0
      We always traded with many buyers of our weapons. Even when everyone left our moment 29 in the GDR, staff members ripened from the technical characteristics of our moment.
  11. gorenina91
    gorenina91 26 October 2017 15: 57 New
    +1
    -This is not only a problem for NATO .., but also a real periodic and persistent headache for Russia ...
  12. regdan
    regdan 26 October 2017 16: 01 New
    0
    There may be one problem! It will be hard now to deliver democracy under the wings of military aircraft ...
  13. Santos
    Santos 26 October 2017 16: 02 New
    0
    Well, buying iPhones in the Russian Federation does not create a security problem. Maybe you forgot how to think. Or the S-400 and the truth is cooler than iha "patriot".
  14. OFFICE-M
    OFFICE-M 26 October 2017 17: 49 New
    +1
    I do not like the United States all this ... So we sold for this! This is the first nail clogged in the NATO coffin.
  15. APASUS
    APASUS 26 October 2017 19: 02 New
    +3
    You don’t have to understand much in systems to understand what exactly you were afraid of in NATO. Greece was able to integrate the S-300 into an air defense system.
    The question is that Turkey is gaining independence in decision-making, and this is not a couple of billion dollars, it is hundreds and thousands of billions past the owner’s pocket. This is decision-making inconsistent with the center and contrary to the general idea. The United States can’t go for it, so they almost turned Erdogan’s head, and then Putin’s kind ...........
  16. Yngvar
    Yngvar 27 October 2017 05: 41 New
    0
    Quote: wicked partisan
    Quote: Vladimir16
    Head of the NATO Military Committee, General Peter Pavel.

    Dali, damn it, parents name is son! Neither horseradish can understand either Pavel or Petya. laughing

    Petya Pavel. Togo... repeat

    Petruccio Padluchino
  17. Manul
    Manul 29 October 2017 02: 43 New
    0
    And where are our professors wow - did this Russian equipment "did not participate in the database"?