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Independent Bavaria: Enough to feed Berlin!

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In his previous article on the attempts of the Flemish "right" to hold a referendum on the independence of Flanders, one of the commentators became interested in the fate of Bavaria. Calm down. Everything is normal - absolutely mirror situation. As I wrote earlier, Mariano Rajoy (Chairman of the Government of Spain) planted a pig for the EU. Instead of drowning the Catalan referendum in a bureaucratic talking shop, economic horror stories and promises of heavenly life in the event of a “right” decision, Raha, in a manner of speaking, struck across Catalonia. Thus, he started up so extensive circles in the peaceful bureaucratic swamp of Europe that the “separatists” of all stripes revived. It gave them a boost.


Of course, one should not think that all this political “movement” arose from scratch simply because of the petty vibrations of obstinate Catalans. Not. These guys peacefully (and not very) fed at the trough of parochial patriotism and "village" swagger for quite a long time. And no matter in which part of Europe these "wrestlers" live. Their methods of agitation, arguments, claims to the central government and others are similar as similar triangles. It is a question of Flanders, Catalonia or Padania (Northern Italy) - it does not matter, only the national color changes.

Bavaria is no exception. In this federal state of Germany, the Bavarian party (Bayernpartei) is mainly responsible for “separatist” sentiments. Sometimes it is viewed as the successor to the Bavarian People’s Party, which did not survive Hitler’s rule and the Second World War. By the way, the second successor is considered to be the more powerful Christian-social union (CSU), but he stands on the more moderate positions of regionalism, but politics is changeable. Therefore, it is the Bavarian Party that occupied the niche of the independence of Bavaria and secession from Germany. Despite its small number and lack of representation in the Bundestag, the Bavarian political party is a longtime political resident of Germany. It is regularly represented in the Landtag (parliament of the land) of Bavaria.

Independent Bavaria: Enough to feed Berlin!


And, of course, the Bavarians were no worse than their colleagues from Flanders. Do not have time to get off the bluish bumps from the Catalan heads, as the head of the Bavarian Party, Florian Weber made an emotional and unequivocal statement: "This (Catalan referendum) is an inspiration for Bavaria!"

However, as I indicated earlier, it is not worth thinking that these comrades came out of a coma only after the Catalan crisis. In all sorts of Internet resources (from sites to Twitter), Bavarian “separatists” with amazing constancy sneeze Berlin and the Bundestag. In this case, as befits a party of this kind, the argument in favor of the independence of the region is divided into two peculiar levels.

Level one. Most often, this level serves as a digestible packaging for true prosaic reasons for independence (making up the second level). At this level, the reasons for self-identification, national identity and way of life are cultivated, i.e. region is spiritualized-intangible. This often serves as a beautiful moral disguise for the completely mercantile foundations of independence.



Florian Weber with a characteristic poster - "Hands off the Catalan referendum"

In Bavaria, there is real openness in this matter. The duchy of Bavaria, which appeared around the 10th century, has considerable experience of statehood, despite all historical collisions. Later, Bavaria is part of the Holy Roman Empire, preserving its duchy, characterized by strife and other cute details. After the Napoleonic Wars, with the consent of the victors, Bavaria becomes a kingdom. The “collector of German lands” Otto von Bismarck put an end to this independent lawlessness in 1871. The kingdom became part of the German Empire, and in 1918 the title of King of Bavaria was abolished. The family of the Wittelsbachs, who ruled Bavaria for centuries, was also inhibited. Ironically, Ludwig II, the "eccentric romantic", as described by mannered nature, became the most famous representative of the genus in the modern hysterically-glamorous society. In life, Ludwig II, between bouts of sluggish psychosis, devastated the country by building very beautiful and absolutely useless castles until he was finally removed from power.

Moreover, apart from the small nuances of national identity, such as local holidays and leather pants with suspenders, the Bavarian language becomes a monumental argument of the Bavarian independence supporters. Despite the fact that this "language" is in fact quite far from the generally accepted German language, it is still considered a dialect. But if the South Russian dialect, popularly “surzhik” or “balachka”, can be dragged to the rank of “sovereign mova” with a wild squeak, then God himself ordered the Baerish (Bavarian dialect).

Level two. But at this level the most objective and vital reasons of separation are based, ready to touch the quick, i.e. for a pocket, even citizens far from a national question. Thus, the Bavarian Party does not tire of stressing that billions of euros annually leave the federal land of Bavaria and are sent to feed the less prosperous regions of Germany in the form of subsidies, including to Berlin. Do not forget the Bavarians to remind Berlin of the excessive waste of funds for the maintenance of the bureaucratic apparatus.



Poster of the Bavarian Party with a lowered Bavaria

Last month, it became generally known that 41% increased the cost of maintaining the staff of the Ministry of Family Affairs, and the bureaucracy itself was very swollen. The reaction of Florian Weber was not long in coming. He stated that this was not just an isolated case, but a negative self-service policy of Berlin.

However, it would be wrong to consider the Bavarian Party a monopolist in the criticism of Berlin. Horst Seehofer, a completely legitimate and far from marginal, Bavarian prime minister and leader of the aforementioned CSU, periodically raises his voice towards Berlin about “dishonest redistribution of funds”, and also suggests reducing extortions from his land.

And with much greater feeling and far-reaching conclusions, Bavarian intellectuals come out. For example, the writer Wilfried Sharnagl, more or less well-known in Russia, by the way, a prominent member of the CSU, a few years ago released the voluminous work "Bavaria can also be an independent state." The name is ambiguous, as if the author is trying to draw parallels and add Bavaria to a peculiar family of "separatist" regions of Europe, such as Catalonia, Flanders, Padania, Veneto, Scotland, and so on.



"Federal Republic of Germany" - crossed out

The official authorities in Berlin continue to stoically ignore the Bavarian processes, only occasionally, in a manner resembling “separatist” sentiments, to use terms like “untenable nonsense.” This practice is quite acceptable, as it allows the media to distribute kicks to dissenters and marginalize unwanted alternative parties. Thus, the propaganda leaflets of the type of Deutsche Welle, which function so stereotypically “according to the training manual”, that one gets the impression - shake them and a notebook in the style of “Mao's quotation book” pops out from behind the bosom.

For example, Wilfried Sharnagl, already known to us, in 2015, published the book “Over the Catcher”, published in Russia under the name “Change of Course”, in which the author tried to objectively examine the Ukrainian crisis and relations with Russia. It cost the book to get on the counter, as the same Deutsche Welle first tried to discredit the author as an amateur in this matter, and then completely filled all the materials on this subject with a set of hysterical labels about the “muzzle of automata”.



How long such a policy of the authorities and the annoying hissing of the German media will be tolerated by a Bavarian burgher is hard to say. But while it works, and the ostrich head in the sand feels comfortable, Berlin risks getting to know better not only the “Alternative for Germany” (which threw Berlin bureaucrats into shock at the last election), but also such parties as the Bavarian.
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  1. venaya
    venaya 26 October 2017 15: 36 New
    +4
    As far as I was told: Bavarians not only do not understand Berliners by their language (dialect), but even at the genetic level they are a completely different people (from a different kind and even origin). Hence, quite natural friction.
    1. volodya
      volodya 26 October 2017 15: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: venaya
      As far as I was told: Bavarians not only do not understand Berliners by their language (dialect), but even at the genetic level they are a completely different people (from a different kind). Hence, quite natural friction.

      It turns out interesting! Spain - Catalonia, Italy - Veneto, Lombardy, Germany - Bavaria and most interestingly, everyone says “Stop feeding!” Now let's see what they shouted in Ukraine when they jumped “Stop feeding Muscovites and we will live like in Europe!” jumped on?
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 26 October 2017 17: 07 New
        +2
        Everything rests on the Chicago theory of Milton Friedman about the alleged existence of the so-called “Clean” and “free” market with its monetarism - i.e. pursuit of profits and personal over-enrichment.
        This theory is based on the radical individualism of each person in the abolition of his responsibility to society, including the abolition of the state itself. On the upbringing of super and super-greed, each person has the condition that “money does not smell” and everyone is enriched in his workplace as soon as you can. At the same time, the individual person in his consumerism is opposed in his egoism to the whole society.
        This "free market" ideology pushes officials and civil servants to corruption, per se, and corruption to foreign countries - it educates collaborators of all stripes in them - traitors who collaborate with the enemies of their homeland, their people.
        In this case, the impoverished people, and, naturally, under the flag of bourgeois nationalism, are against corruption at the “top”.
        The psychoanalyst Erich Fromm wrote that in any case, the manifestation of fascism is precisely “the education of greed lies at the basis of fascism”!
        As a result of all this, with a similar Harvard ideology, the so-called The "free" and "clean" market with its pursuit of personal personal profits of each person - an employee, and especially in government structures - cannot but lead precisely to TMV!
        1. ukoft
          ukoft 26 October 2017 21: 31 New
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          Industrial capitalist society is being replaced by consumer information. Nationalism in all its manifestations is a sign and a necessary attribute of a capitalist society. Association with the nation of the country is leaving in the past, as clan relations, communal and others, once passed away. A person has become very mobile and can live and raise his children anywhere. This separates a person from the community with the land on which he was born, his nation and others.
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 26 October 2017 15: 45 New
    +2
    Independent Bavaria: Enough to feed Berlin!

    But this is already interesting. Who is next in the EU?
    1. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 27 October 2017 00: 08 New
      +1
      No one - the Bavarian party - is a party like the bulk of Munich, only without American funding. Applaud "clever thoughts" about the dominance of Berlin officials, about the outrageousness of newcomers migrants, a liter glass of Bavarian beer, and even with a sausage - this is forever, but to bring this party up - the Bavarians are not so curious. While they are fed well enough. Who needs shocks with unpredictable results?
  3. Denis batura
    Denis batura 26 October 2017 15: 49 New
    +4
    Europe itself played out: it supported the separatists in Kosovo, then it contributed to the collapse of Czechoslovakia, then it recognized Taiwan (the Republic of China), then it welcomed the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria. The current situation in Scotland, Catalonia and Bavaria is a boomerang.
  4. San Sanych
    San Sanych 26 October 2017 16: 38 New
    +6
    Europe for most of its history was a gathering of Bavaria, Burgundy, Lombardy and all sorts of other Luxembourgs and Schleswig with Provence. Europeans are creepy individualists, they are returning to their former state. Kosovo was just a fuse, now let the Europeans reap the benefits of their frivolous policies of the early 90s of the last century
  5. Forcecom
    Forcecom 26 October 2017 16: 54 New
    +3
    Well, Catalonia, there is access to the sea - it means that even in the "new" conditions it is possible to establish logistics, but where did you get these pulled in the center of the continent?
    1. San Sanych
      San Sanych 26 October 2017 17: 31 New
      +3
      Switzerland somehow dispenses with access to the sea, a neighbor of Bavaria
    2. Sharansky
      Sharansky 26 October 2017 18: 20 New
      +2
      Yes, they were not drawn anywhere. An impassable game, one of about forty games, consisting of a dozen freaks at the level of Sobchak's PR. Specifically, on this site, such things are posted under Russian propaganda sauce so that the patriots have something to jump around.
  6. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 26 October 2017 17: 54 New
    +1
    Bismarck - a collector of German lands from such news in a coffin spins. 150 years have not passed since the creation of a united Germany, and there has already been talk about "enough to feed" and "to be better independent."
    1. Denis batura
      Denis batura 26 October 2017 18: 14 New
      +2
      Talk about "enough to feed" went back to 1919, when the Bavarian and Bremen Soviet Republics existed.
    2. San Sanych
      San Sanych 26 October 2017 18: 44 New
      0
      the same can be said about Italy, moreover, even the French aren’t hired, whose centralization was mainly much earlier than that of the Italians and Germans, separatist sentiments are observed in Brittany, Lorraine, Corsica
    3. venaya
      venaya 27 October 2017 00: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: Alexey RA
      Bismarck is a collector of German lands ..

      Help me please. I’ve been looking for these same “German lands” for how many years, and still I can’t find a single place on the globe where these same lands have ever been. Bismarck himself was only a chancellor. It is interesting, as whom he received the right to collect land around the lands of the p-Russian kingdom, because at that time the king of p-Russia itself, William, was still in good health. What was he doing, "the raven thought"? Somehow we are accustomed to operate on aliens imposed on us and words, truly not realizing the meaning and meaning of these very words. How much I have not studied the question of "Germanic"lands - it has always come across either the frankly Russian-speaking names of these same lands, or its frankly and ethnically and genetically its population directly of Russian origin. So far no one has bothered to soberly explain the origin of the" Germans "themselves, by the way the term was born somewhere in the 1512th year , it’s not completely clear what language, because then Russian was still in use there. And where they came from is also completely unclear. In general, there are some riddles with this "Germany", and the inhabitants of this country themselves never called her and still have not bothered to call her. Here are miracles! But there are still no answers to this riddle.
  7. Karen
    Karen 26 October 2017 18: 16 New
    +1
    Let me remind you, although I already wrote ...
    Our man at the exhibition EXPO there somewhere in 1968. I read +/- in an advertising booklet: "Bavaria got its name from the commander Bavar sent from Rome to organize interaction with his compatriots living here, Armenians."
    After showing interest in getting more information from the organizers on this topic, the booklets disappeared, and books from stores containing the same information quickly disappeared ... :)
    ... I recall the pictures of the watches of the 70s from there, with a twist - the dial was mirrored there, the arrows went to the left and an inscription like: "In Bavaria, the clocks go in a special way" :)
    That would be asked to us under the wing :)))
  8. knn54
    knn54 26 October 2017 19: 00 New
    0
    ... Recently, something for the Bavarians heart hurts, as they are there, without independence ... (comment from 18.10.17/XNUMX/XNUMX).
    "Jinxed", however.
    PS Frau Merkel- whoever sows the wind, reaps the storm ...
  9. Karen
    Karen 26 October 2017 19: 39 New
    0
    Quote: San Sanych
    the same can be said about Italy, moreover, even the French aren’t hired, whose centralization was mainly much earlier than that of the Italians and Germans, separatist sentiments are observed in Brittany, Lorraine, Corsica

    And how do you imagine future Germany without Brittany and Lorraine?
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    1. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 27 October 2017 00: 15 New
      0
      Ukraine ponad mustache? :-)
  11. 32363
    32363 27 October 2017 01: 56 New
    +2
    I’ve been living in Bavaria for 20 years, by status it is a separate state, but in fact it is not, Bavaria could easily have lived without the rest of Germany’s lands, but Germany is unlikely to be without Bavaria, many leading world-famous companies have been formed and are located there, on which and hold on to the whole of Germany.
    from what he himself remembered
    MAN
    COLOR
    AUDI
    BMW
    MTU
    Kuka
    OSRAM
    Messerschmitt
    1. demiurg
      demiurg 27 October 2017 07: 54 New
      +1
      Mercedes, ABB, Siemens?
      1. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 27 October 2017 10: 01 New
        0
        Baer, ​​Linde, Suede Hemi ...
  12. demiurg
    demiurg 27 October 2017 07: 54 New
    0
    Quote: 32363
    I’ve been living in Bavaria for 20 years, by status it is a separate state, but in fact it is not, Bavaria could easily have lived without the rest of Germany’s lands, but Germany is unlikely to be without Bavaria, many leading world-famous companies have been formed and are located there, on which and hold on to the whole of Germany.
    from what he himself remembered
    MAN
    COLOR
    AUDI
    BMW
    MTU
    Kuka
    OSRAM
    Messerschmitt

    Mercedes, ABB, Siemens?
    1. 32363
      32363 27 October 2017 11: 19 New
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      Quote: demiurg

      Mercedes, ABB, Siemens?

      Mercier is nearby, but not Bavaria. Siemens was founded in Berlin, and later moved to Munich.
      I indicated purely Bavarian firms by foundation.
  13. gorenina91
    gorenina91 28 October 2017 09: 48 New
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    - Probably, a "new EU" will soon emerge ... - a union of European states optimally affecting the European economy ... -Catalonia, Scotland, Bavaria, Flanders, etc. ... -And the former EU will remain composed of not so economically prosperous "remnants" ... -Where then will Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, Croatia, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and so on ...
    - Again they will begin to "beat" to Russia ..? -And where they will have nowhere else to go ...- nobody needs them ...