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Project "ZZ". Russian agriculture rises under sanctions

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President Putin explained that the black hole in agriculture in Russia was left behind: the situation had "changed dramatically". Foreign correspondents who have visited Russia consider: agriculture in the country is experiencing a “boom” thanks to Western sanctions. Some Russian ministers are even ready to feed pork ... Indonesia.




Vladimir Putin said that the situation in Russia's agribusiness complex has changed dramatically. At a meeting on the agro-industrial complex in Voronezh, which was attended by Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich, Minister of Agriculture Alexander Tkachev and other officials, the president noted that agriculture is showing a positive trend. The head of state is sure: the agro-industrial complex of the Russian Federation has become an attractive investment sector, moreover, one of the drivers of economic development. “I recall in this connection the discussions of the beginning of the 2000s, when here and there the same thing was heard that agriculture is a“ black hole ”,” Putin quotes. "Notebook" (Voronezh). - How much money come on, they disappear without a trace, and no result. Now the situation has changed dramatically. The average growth rate in 2014-2016 was 103,6 percent. ”

Russian manufacturers are strengthening their positions in the domestic market and increasing their export potential, the president stressed. According to the Federal Customs Service, in the first seven months of 2017, exports of products of the agro-industrial complex grew by 18,8%.

Minister Tkachev at the meeting told about exporting pork. With this business of Russia "it is impossible to stop". The head of the Ministry of Agriculture cited Germany as an example - a “understandable” country: “I want to cite Germany as an example of export - a seemingly close, understandable country. Half of the pork they sell for export. For example, Germany 5,5 million tons per year produces pork, of which almost 3 million is exported. In all countries, and above all China, Indonesia, part - Japan, Korea and so on. Therefore, of course, in no case can we stop at pork too. ”

Vladimir Putin has chilled the minister: "Indonesia is a Muslim country, they don’t eat pork there."

It became funny Putin? Or was he ashamed of his minister-farmer? They write about it now even in Turkish newspapers.

“Medya Gunlugu” reports “interesting news, Appeared in the newspaper hurriyet.com.tr. The news was entitled: “Putin felt ashamed of the Russian minister’s mistake.” "The Minister of Agriculture of Russia Alexander Tkachev shocked President Vladimir Putin with the words" we will feed Indonesia with pork, "which can cause an international scandal," translates the text of the original source from the Turkish language "InoSMI".

When Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich, who was sitting near Putin, continued the conversation about selling pork to Indonesia, Tkachev added: “Do not worry, we will feed Indonesia with pork.”

And after so many misses, Minister Putin "had to cover his face with his hands."

This news was spread in the Turkish press - Milliyet and Sabah picked up a scandal.

According to the Turkish author, Putin “covers his face with his hands not from shame,” but to hide laughter. And the atmosphere itself at the meeting is “quite cheerful.”

Jokes jokes, but foreign analysts say: agriculture in Russia really is experiencing a “boom”. And thanks to Western sanctions!

Morten Yentoft, who visited Russia in the Norwegian edition "NRK" told the European reading public: Russian agriculture is developing just surprisingly!

However, he immediately calls the main reason for development: Moscow banned the import of Western food products, introducing counter-sanctions.

Natalya Parinova is the chief veterinarian of the Zarechnoye farm (north of the Voronezh region). She said that the site is building a room for thirteen thousand cattle for slaughter. In just a few years, a huge meat production enterprise has risen here. Cows imported are Angus animals. The livestock will grow even twice in the next few years. Zarechnoye is already today the largest meat production company. Delegations are constantly coming here. Parinova is sure: such an economy is a “good example” of Russia's revival.

According to her, Zarechny products are sold by customers in large cities, and not only in Voronezh itself, but also in Moscow.

A new slaughterhouse has been built here: cattle are slaughtered in the usual way, and in keeping with the traditions of some religious communities.

The vice-president of the regional administration, Viktor Logvinov, who received the journalist NRK, noted with a smile: “If I’d asked, I would have wished the sanctions to continue for another ten years!”

Logvinov is responsible for agriculture in the Voronezh region, the correspondent points out. “The sanctions allowed us to develop our own food production,” he emphasizes. And here it’s not only cattle: if before apples were imported into Russia from Poland, now people create apple orchards and grow apples locally.

On the other hand, the situation may change, and then the Russians will again have to withstand competition with foreigners. Nevertheless, the current situation of farms is much more durable than before. Since 2009 in the Voronezh region built seventeen large enterprises for the production of milk (invested about twenty billion rubles). And things do not stand still: in the next 5 years, it is planned to open thirteen new enterprises. The emphasis is on meat production.

But the personal opinion of a foreign correspondent. Having traveled around the region, he admitted: obviously, agriculture in this part of Russia has entered a “heyday”.

Here, for example, is the farm of the EkoNiva enterprise in Verkhniy Ikorets. Build a cow and a German milking machine. Total cows here are 2800.

Alexander Vasykhin, chief farm technician, admits: “It is clear that Western sanctions and retaliatory sanctions from Russia are an advantage for us. Thanks to their introduction, we were able to develop agriculture, using, in particular, technologies that are compatible with those used in Europe and America. ” “We create many jobs, and we also invest in infrastructure and support the construction of schools and kindergartens,” adds Vasihin.

The general director of the EkoNiva-APK holding, Stefan Dürr, turned out to be from the Germans. He came to the USSR in 1989, through an exchange program for specialists. He speaks Russian, German, Norwegian. “The interest [in agriculture] from the youth is one of the most positive phenomena that is now observed in Russian agriculture,” he said.

EkoNiva today is Russia's largest milk producer. In five years, Durr intends to increase milk production from 900 tons per day to 3000 tons.

Durr largely supports Vladimir Putin, though not in everything: “I don’t want to support everything that President Putin does. However, I believe that in the current situation he is right in many ways. A lot of false information is coming in from both the West and the East. Every day I get acquainted with the websites of the German agency “ARD”, where there is a terrible amount of nonsense about Putin and Russia, ”Mr. Dürr states.

In his opinion, relations between the West and Russia will be improved. At the same time, however, Russians and foreigners will have to compete in the open market. “We are ready for this,” the Russian-German agrarian says with optimism.

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There would be no happiness, but misfortune helped. This Russian proverb quite accurately reflects the situation that representatives of Russian agriculture told foreign journalists. All of them mentioned the benefit of sanctions, and one even wished to extend the sanctions for another ten years. (However, the Americans are unlikely to lift the sanctions even for 10 years: Mr. Obama said that the Russians could not see the lifting of the sanctions until Crimea was returned.)

Russia is unlikely to supply Indonesia with pork, but agriculture does have growth prospects, and the objective European press acknowledges this. Another thing is that if the sanctions are lifted and even if sanctions are relaxed, counter-sanctions will also be lifted, and this will cause a sharp increase in competition. Probably, Polish apples will flood the Russian market again. Do not forget, Russia is a member of the WTO and a participant in an open economy.
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  1. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 18 October 2017 09: 33
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    Well, yes, yes! They even directly outstripped the USSR in agricultural development, yes? Just why, as the abandoned fields were overgrown with forests, they remained. Just as the villages were ruined, the villages that lived by agriculture remained. Especially in the outback Russia. The only plus is that they kept it and made it more profitable by collecting agroholdings and complexes. But they feed the big cities. And who feeds the villages and villages? There is no work, no money, nothing to buy. Because there is no program population support in rural areas .. And then we wonder why there is a budget deficit, and there are many pensioners.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 18 October 2017 12: 04
      +7
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      just as abandoned fields were overgrown with forests, they remained. Just as the villages were ruined, and the villages that lived in agriculture still remained. Especially in the outback of Russia.

      sad alas ... it is. victorious relations podzadolbali, on the "ground" everything is different.
    2. andj61
      andj61 18 October 2017 12: 09
      +6
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      Well, yes, yes! They even directly outstripped the USSR in agricultural development, yes? Just why, as the abandoned fields were overgrown with forests, they remained. Just as the villages were ruined, the villages that lived by agriculture remained. Especially in the outback Russia. The only plus, what remained was retained, and made more profitable by collecting agroholdings and complexes. But they feed large metropolises.

      Exactly - in the Bryansk region, for example, grain, and potatoes, and meat, and poultry produce many times more than in the best years of the USSR.
      But fields in such quantities as were plowed up in Soviet times are exclusively needed for plowing and employment of people. Now, large holdings of cows have begun to be raised simply in gigantic quantities - and constantly they need people, only, most often, qualified people. Or at least ready to learn. Oddly enough, they cannot find such personnel in the villages - they carry buses daily from cities. And the state should provide normal pensioners to pensioners.
      1. igordok
        igordok 18 October 2017 13: 33
        +3
        Quote: andj61
        But fields in such quantities as were plowed up in Soviet times are exclusively needed for plowing and employment of people.

        I completely agree. Our Pskov non-black soil is more non-black earth than yours in the Bryansk region. laughing Abandoned fields and villages come across everywhere. As Belarusians joke, post-apocalyptic films can be shot with us without problems. Scenery is not needed, they are ready. But this is an external, at first glance, negative image. But alas, this does not escape. What is not profitable will be abandoned, and subsequently destroyed.
        Many fields abandoned in the "zero" are now being restored. Livestock farms are also being restored. We have a "war" between meat processing plants in the city. Competition.
        P.S. Hello to my native Bryansk region.
        1. andj61
          andj61 18 October 2017 13: 47
          +2
          Quote: igordok
          Many fields abandoned in the "zero" are now being restored. Livestock farms are also being restored. We have a "war" between meat processing plants in the city. Competition.
          P.S. Hello to my native Bryansk region.

          The war between meat plants and poultry houses is going on. Farmers raising pigs were almost exhausted - periodically wild boars infected with the African swine fever virus were shot near their farms. Large agricultural holdings rule - Miratorg has taken a lot of land and grows cows on year-round pasture maintenance. Even a couple of cowboy families were discharged - to train ours.
          Hello Pskov! In the summer I went with my family on an independent excursion, we spent a week with you, but we did not have time to see everything. I liked it very much. But I didn’t notice the difference with the Bryansk region (except that the summer came two weeks later this year) - the grass trees are the same, the weather is the same, and the ground is the same - it’s dripping like rain, it’s not will you go ... hi
          1. igordok
            igordok 18 October 2017 13: 54
            +2
            Quote: andj61
            except that your summer this year came two weeks later

            You are lucky. You saw SUMMER. I somehow did not notice him. In September, there were several days of summer.
            Thank. If you need travel advice in the Pskov region, please contact - I will prompt.
    3. AA17
      AA17 18 October 2017 12: 12
      +3
      Dear Mar. Thira. I agree with you. The article caused a double feeling. On the one hand, a feeling of approval, on the other - sadness. Not everything is so joyful in the countryside. Yesterday I watched OTR broadcast. The program touched on life in the countryside. There were several calls from different regions of Russia. The main message of the callers is that there is no work in the countryside, the youth leaves after leaving school in the city, the remaining drink too much. The villages continue to disappear.
    4. Victor N
      Victor N 18 October 2017 12: 13
      +3
      How did Russia not die out in the 17th century, when there were no agricultural holdings ?! Loans, budget support?
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 18 October 2017 13: 11
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      But do not we remember the "Boston tea party"? Any overproduction, including agricultural products, entails a crisis in at least a single sector of the economy. And what can you do - these are the laws of capital.
    6. antivirus
      antivirus 18 October 2017 13: 28
      +3
      Jokes jokes, but foreign analysts say: agriculture in Russia really is experiencing a “boom”. And thanks to Western sanctions!

      - for foreigners it is comforting to think so
      And we need: uniform distribution of people throughout the country and that they would work everywhere and receive salaries, not benefits.
      Russian agricultural is not capable of cultivating land at the latitude of Poshekhonya (Vologda butter and cheese) --- THIS IS A STRATEGIC GOAL FOR THE NEXT MINISTER S / HOZ-VA
      1. oracul
        oracul 22 October 2017 07: 25
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        So what's the problem, let's start right now and start to evenly spread across the country. We start from Moscow, St. Petersburg and other megacities, where there are too many loafers-rentiers. Russian agriculture, unlike you, is capable of much. And Vologda produces a lot of things in the village. We should have more, but not immediately Moscow was built. It is possible to feed the breakthrough of the people in cities exclusively with the help of agricultural holdings - such is the prose of life. And let farming live to the best of its ability and ability - it has its own advantages, for example, environmental friendliness of products, orientation to its consumer, but again hard work without days off and
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 22 October 2017 09: 07
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          I'm not talking about zhrachat, but about the interests of the Russian Defense Ministry.
          Everywhere you need your own people.
          As with Powers, he was taken prisoner by peasants in the Sverdlovsk region, worked in the field. (and beaten, but he offered money, didn’t take it)
    7. Primoos
      Primoos 18 October 2017 13: 40
      +4
      Pleased with the success of domestic agriculture. Remained a little, to curb the appetite of immensely greedy retailers. These creatures do not sow and do not plow, but it is they who dictate the prices.
    8. Svetlana
      Svetlana 18 October 2017 16: 40
      +2
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      Only for some reason, as there were abandoned fields overgrown with forests, they remained.


      Not really, or let's say not at all. Do pigs feed on your air? Or?
      The picture in recent years has changed a lot. Where 30 years ago there were collective farms, and 10 years ago weeds, now cereals are again chopping.
      Of course, I can not vouch for all the fields of Russia, but in the Pkovschina it is
      1. igordok
        igordok 18 October 2017 17: 27
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        Quote: Svetlana
        Of course, I can not vouch for all the fields of Russia, but in the Pkovschina it is

        I can not vouch for all the fields of the Pskov region, there are still many abandoned ones, but I like the trend in the development of agriculture.
        1. Svetlana
          Svetlana 18 October 2017 19: 55
          +1
          Yes, there are certainly abandoned. There are no questions. But planted appeared unmeasured. Those fields where I was young, bursting sweet, green peas, later on, turned thickets. And now, several years ago, ears of corn are ripening on them. True, they are not planted by a collective farm or state farm, but by the Veliko-Luksky meat processing plant. Agricultural holding that is. But it’s all the same who, the main land is not idle
    9. your1970
      your1970 18 October 2017 20: 08
      +2
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      Only for some reason, as there were abandoned fields overgrown with forests, they remained
      - after five years of drought - we have two years in a row. So farmers smelled and planted winter crops even where - under the USSR they never plowed and planted ...
      Whether there will be snow at the beginning of winter / rains in spring, then we will see the result. Alas, we are a zone of risky farming ..
      And the animal - the administration of the district administration says that: sheep are 80% of the USSR, cattle - 75%. Given that this is not collective farms with 500 to 700 workers, and private traders, the figure is very good.
    10. smart ass
      smart ass 19 October 2017 02: 28
      +3
      I am not interested in the singing of ministers about the development of agriculture in the Russian Federation. More interested in the price tag on a shelf in the store where I go. When I see a can of stew for 120 rubles and cheese for 400 rubles from plastic fat, sing me nightingale songs with my gang of balabolov or don’t tell me everything until ....
      1. your1970
        your1970 19 October 2017 09: 00
        +1
        the purchase of meat -160-180 rubles per kg of pork without fat. How much is wound on sale?
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 19 October 2017 09: 56
          0
          A friend in my village opened a small box of 34 square instrument-fasteners, so he pays 30 thousand per quarter for taxes on a simplified tax system, you earn 120 thousand a year) guess why the mark-up is growing ?? As a result, the scavenger pays for everything
          1. your1970
            your1970 20 October 2017 15: 19
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            no conditionally - DO NOT pay taxes much better and nicer. Or do you propose to reduce taxes? Then where to get the money in the budget?
      2. Victor N
        Victor N 19 October 2017 10: 09
        0
        Never buy bad cheese and expensive stew! No need to encourage hackers! And we will all be happy!
        Excellent domestic products are in sufficient assortment and quantity. And grandmothers are trading. And parsley can be mowed from its own plot. Prices to taste. They do not die of hunger.
        Learn to have fun!
      3. Raindragon
        Raindragon 19 October 2017 18: 32
        +1
        Cheese for 400 - a friend goes to expensive stores, buys stew for 120 - just like a fist or a bourgeois))))
      4. Raindragon
        Raindragon 19 October 2017 18: 33
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        Cheese for 400 - a friend goes to expensive stores, buys stew for 120 - just like a fist or a bourgeois))))
    11. DanSabaka
      DanSabaka 19 October 2017 07: 39
      +3
      well, take a magic wand, wave it, and let everything become good and beautiful everywhere and at once ....
      well, or, as an option, take care of the revival of the village not in words, but in practice ....
      1. Victor N
        Victor N 19 October 2017 10: 24
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        You must be reborn on your own!
        1. DanSabaka
          DanSabaka 19 October 2017 11: 11
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          I agree with you .... saving up money for a house in the village ....
    12. verner1967
      verner1967 20 October 2017 14: 50
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      Quote: Mar. Tira
      And who will feed the villages and villages?

      An interesting question is, there is land, there are hands, why should someone feed? This is all the legacy of collective farms, waiting for handouts from the state. Now the townspeople are going to agriculture and they are doing it. The main thing is to abandon the soviet ideology when someone owes you something
  2. bald
    bald 18 October 2017 09: 37
    +3
    The question is so simple - it’s worth asking any farmer whether he is for or against sanctions ?! The answer is obvious and I agree with them. But we are not enemies - we are local and for a prosperous Russia !!!
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 18 October 2017 09: 44
    +7
    ... I can tell through the eyes of an eyewitness - for decades, empty land that has already become overgrown with trees has begun to "work" ... people take it, harvest and harvest it ... sow a lot of corn for animal feed and poultry, soybeans and for export mainly to China and for oil, cereals - wheat, barley for fodder, rice worse - mainly the Chinese are engaged in it ... but progress is evident - WORK WITH THE EARTH is in progress ...
  4. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 18 October 2017 10: 11
    +2
    Quote: aszzz888
    ... I can tell through the eyes of an eyewitness - for decades, empty land that has already become overgrown with trees has begun to "work" ... people take it, harvest and harvest it ... sow a lot of corn for animal feed and poultry, soybeans and for export mainly to China and for oil, cereals - wheat, barley for fodder, rice worse - mainly the Chinese are engaged in it ... but progress is evident - WORK WITH THE EARTH is in progress ...

    You can. It is not so simple with us in the depths of Siberia. I hope the turn will come to us, but so far the devastation. But the officials are growing, both in quantitative and in terms of salary increases.
    1. Victor N
      Victor N 18 October 2017 12: 22
      +1
      Wait. The right officials will also be brought to you. Do not be distracted by haymaking!
      Are Siberians waiting for advice on how to survive?
    2. Cadet
      Cadet 18 October 2017 19: 26
      0
      In Siberia? In the Kurgan region, for example, there are a lot of overgrown fields (I think Maltsev would be very dissatisfied with this state of affairs in his native region), livestock farms built under the Union were abandoned and dismantled, in the south of the Tyumen region almost all fields were sown, in some areas there is already not enough land for sowing, it’s not so simple with livestock breeding, there are exclusion areas where the leaders do not itch most of all, the Sverdlovsk region there in the Tavdinsky district in terms of agriculture is dark and dark, the fields are abandoned, overgrown, stockbreeding bases are also dismantled and razed. Young people are trying to dump in large regional centers due to lack of work, if there is work, then the payment is small except. According to one teacher of physical education in a village in the Kurgan region: there are no children to take the money to the competition in Kargopol or Kurgan, and you can buy a uniform, but you won’t explain why the hockey team with the uniform doesn’t fit in Gazelle, and everything is beautiful and good on the news. Words of a resident of the Kurgan region.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 October 2017 10: 49
    +1
    Some Russian ministers are even ready to feed pork ... Indonesia

    And not surprisingly. Some ministers, in addition to the fact that the United States is the greatest economy and need to be equal to nothing else do not know. For them, there are only two nationalities - Americans and others. National and religious principles and rules do not interest them.
  6. Olgovich
    Olgovich 18 October 2017 10: 50
    +1
    The Black Earth rises is wonderful!
    But the Non-Black Earth region, practically, no.
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 18 October 2017 11: 22
      0
      Non-chernozem region will move to cities. request Under capitalism, no one will subsidize cx where it causes losses, as the USSR did. And in any case, the outflow of people to the cities will continue. Agriculture does not need as many workers as there are now. People will flock to cities.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 18 October 2017 11: 39
        +1
        Quote: g1v2
        Under capitalism, no one will subsidize cx where it causes losses, as the USSR did.

        Under capitalism, the EU directs 50% budget to support C / economy. Russia and the USSR 1,4% on the same.
        Quote: g1v2
        Agriculture does not need as many workers as there are now

        Shortage of workers in agricultural enterprises in the Non-Chernozem Region alone, 3,5 million people already in 1980 ....
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 18 October 2017 11: 55
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          The EU does not subsidize losses. European agriculture is a profitable thing. It is subsidized in order to be more competitive in foreign markets. hi
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 18 October 2017 12: 02
            +1
            Quote: g1v2
            The EU does not subsidize losses. European agriculture is a profitable thing. It is subsidized in order to be more competitive in foreign markets.

            What are the losses with SUCH subsidies?
            And the Non-Black Earth region would flourish and be extremely competitive with them. And now the population there is dying out twice as fast as the average for Russia.
            Virgin lands, deserts, forest on former fields.
            Someone will master them and will make a profit.
            Do you think the Germans, the Chinese can’t? They can ....
      2. Victor N
        Victor N 18 October 2017 12: 29
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        If they do not learn to survive by their own labor, they will flock to the sewers! Our ancestors in the Non-Chernozem Territory developed precisely and began to build Great Russia! And in fact they built it - yes, without subsidies and loans.
        Something seems to have degenerated .......
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 19 October 2017 02: 31
          0
          You my friend in the Middle Ages need such views
          1. Victor N
            Victor N 19 October 2017 11: 52
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            And my grandfathers and grandmothers throughout the centuries were able not only to survive, but also to strengthen the country - that's why I am. And I have children and grandchildren - I didn’t ask anyone, I’m not showered with benefits.
    2. andj61
      andj61 18 October 2017 12: 14
      +6
      Quote: Olgovich
      The Black Earth rises is wonderful!
      But the Non-Black Earth region, practically, no.

      I do not agree. The best grain harvest in the Bryansk region - and this is the Non-Chernozem region -
      in the USSR - 700 thousand tons, this year - 1950 thousand, potatoes - 800 thousand tons, in 2017 - 1550 thousand tons. And all just due to intensification - they do not send students and workers to agricultural work, they don’t plant every piece of land, but only what they can process normally. Grain, of course, is mainly not hard and strong varieties, but this also appeared, and before that it was not grown at all of high quality. I can’t give exact figures for pork, beef, poultry, but it is produced many times more than in the USSR. But there are plenty of empty lands. Naturally, the main part of agricultural products is produced by large farms. hi
      1. igordok
        igordok 18 October 2017 13: 44
        +2
        Again, I agree with Bryansk "colleague" hi . In the Bryansk region, agricultural production is growing, unlike ours, Pskov. With us, grain is only fodder. It is cheaper to grow and deliver good grain from the Kuban than to grow with us. But with livestock, everything is normal so far. In practice, self-sufficiency.
      2. Mar.Tirah
        Mar.Tirah 18 October 2017 17: 00
        0
        Quote: andj61
        Quote: Olgovich
        The Black Earth rises is wonderful!
        But the Non-Black Earth region, practically, no.

        I do not agree. The best grain harvest in the Bryansk region - and this is the Non-Chernozem region -
        in the USSR - 700 thousand tons, this year - 1950 thousand, potatoes - 800 thousand tons, in 2017 - 1550 thousand tons. And all just due to intensification - they do not send students and workers to agricultural work, they don’t plant every piece of land, but only what they can process normally. Grain, of course, is mainly not hard and strong varieties, but this also appeared, and before that it was not grown at all of high quality. I can’t give exact figures for pork, beef, poultry, but it is produced many times more than in the USSR. But there are plenty of empty lands. Naturally, the main part of agricultural products is produced by large farms. hi

        You operate with official data on production by state enterprises. But you have no idea how many products were produced in the private sector and personal compound. And it was due to it that you survived in the outback. What is not there now. That's the tragedy. Young people do not teach, and doesn’t instruct C / X to do it. Everyone is tearing closer to the center, just not to work. Drug addiction, rampant crime, drug addiction, hope for an easy life. And at least there are progress, but it is MISS.
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 19 October 2017 02: 33
          0
          Youth, oh, these youth would shoot everyone, or else ish rush into the city and want to live humanly)
        2. andj61
          andj61 19 October 2017 08: 47
          +2
          Quote: Mar. Tira
          You operate with official data on production by state enterprises. But you have no idea how many products were produced in the private sector and personal compound. And it was due to it that you survived in the outback. What is not there now. That's the tragedy. Young people do not teach, and doesn’t instruct C / X to do it. Everyone is tearing closer to the center, just not to work. Drug addiction, rampant crime, drug addiction, hope for an easy life. And at least there are progress, but it is MISS.

          I just have it - and, apparently, unlike you. If only because he himself lived, although in the suburbs, but with a farmstead, and even seven years ago he kept cattle himself, and now I have a personal plot. There was no private sector in the rural outback - only personal courtyards. And they worked on collective farms and state farms. But they were absolutely unprofitable. And the people actively left the remote places, starting in the 50s. And by the beginning of the 90s there were already workers there - a real meager. In the late 80s, there was this kind of "business" - the chairman of the collective farm or the director of the state farm appealed to the chefs (and they were appointed on the party line) and the bosses - large industrial enterprises allocated machine workers to repair equipment, planting and harvesting. They paid them double traction - the average at the enterprise and by agreement on the collective farm. Often the workers worked in their native village. As soon as this system collapsed in the 90s, agriculture also collapsed: there was simply no one to work there. And in the backwoods, only pensioners remained in the 90s. They divided the earth, but they could not even process it properly. And only after about 2005 did a little revival begin to take place - and only at the expense of large manufacturers.
          Yes, in the beginning, in the 90s pigs and poultry for sale were still raised. But already after 2010, it practically stopped: it became impossible to compete in price with large holdings, besides, the competition became unfair (If pigs were actively raised somewhere in the village - there was an African swine plague next to wild boars - the entire stock was destroyed). And the price of pork grown for himself and for himself is at least twice as high - and this is the cost! - than in the market. There is no addiction in the outback. True, they drink a lot. There is no rampant crime. From time to time, vagrants, mainly drug addicts, rob lonely old people, but these are quickly neutralized. And young people left the hinterland already 20 years ago. Large holdings that acquired land there can’t hire anyone - pensioners alone. Carried by buses from the cities.
  7. rudolff
    rudolff 18 October 2017 10: 54
    +6
    To say that sanctions help the growth of agriculture is a bit of distorting the facts. The sanctions actually suspended the WTO rules, and that’s why we entered the WTO on such terms, a separate issue. But then experts said that we will kill our agriculture. They were answered: but there will be competition and we will saturate the market with quality products. Now, we rejoice that these WTO rules are temporarily inactive. And think about it before?
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 18 October 2017 11: 19
      +2
      We entered the WTO for the sake of metal exports. Export of metals and products from them is the second largest article after the export of mineral products. West I tried to limit this export at that time. In the case of entry into the WTO type, it is impossible to introduce separate duties and restrictions against our exports. Although I personally thought that this was stupid, it is precisely the policy of protectionism that is the most profitable way to boost the economy.
      At one time, the German Empire rose thanks to it. And the foundation of Germany's economic power was laid precisely thanks to protectionism. In principle, this is clearly illustrated by the example of this cx-boom. Restrictions on food imports, together with a deliberate depreciation of the ruble, led to a significant increase in cx-production. Which besides pulls adjacent industries - the same cx-engineering, for example. hi
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  8. groks
    groks 18 October 2017 12: 20
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    It turns out - not sanctions are the engine, but counter-sanctions. They lie completely in different planes. What was import not to crush before? And - an occasion, an occasion, as in the old joke about Leonid Ilyich. There were no reasons before? Come on.
    This is not to say that s / x ours straightened up. In general, the view was that Putin came to us to film our Hitler Governor. It’s painfully to become impudent recently. However, it did not come true.
    There isn’t much noticeable revival, the fields abandoned seem to be gone, I also don’t see huge herds, but maybe they are away from my route. In any case, a meat module appeared in Bogdanovo, where there really is a downhole workshop, trucks only dart — livestock are brought up, products are taken away. But almost on the contrary, the dairy module - no one saw that at least one milk carrier drove there.
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 18 October 2017 14: 35
      +2
      Look at the “Made with us” how many farms and other cx facilities are being built in the country. request News of new agricultural enterprises appears every day. The main part is in the Central Federal District, Southern Federal District, North-Caucasian Federal District, but ALSO IN OTHER ALSO MUCH OF OPENINGS. request Well, if for all that, in your area this is not observed, then the local authorities do not really need it. request It is unlikely that anyone from Moscow will come to plow the fields to you. And businessmen should be lured to themselves. And this should be done by the local authorities. A rolling stone gathers no moss. request
      1. groks
        groks 18 October 2017 14: 50
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        One must look at what really is. Since there is a lot of mess on done.
        I. In the article about Voronezh. And I write about him.
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 18 October 2017 15: 18
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          What kind of crap? It’s just that I am also delivering news for the RMS. I constantly communicate with people who print them. If there is something specific - lay out. I also know the person who tracks news on cx. If he was seriously wrong somewhere or something, I can throw him in a personal. request Personally, I did not notice any noticeable jambs behind him.
          1. groks
            groks 18 October 2017 15: 58
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            He swore a lot with the patriots in ASH about the debilitation of the Unas. Then picking out information. Now that the benefits of Unas are brought to minus values, I don’t go to it.
            From what I remember, another pharmaceutical factory was advertised, which was supposed to flood insulin with the whole world. On the offsite in the very corner you could find the mark "except for substance." "Domestic" screwdriver assembly machines. "Domestic" server, from the case of which they were too lazy to tear off the Supermikro label.
            According to s \ x ... they don’t really push on s / x. But for example, there was news about seed production that should provide the whole country with sugar beet seeds. Pictures are given, I don’t know how real they are, with some bunkers, etc. According to the location of this office, it turns out that it is located on the territory of VNIISS named after Mazlumov. Well and what is it?
            Here is https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/5471
            And here is the state of VNIISS itself for 2016 https://vmulder.livejournal.com/170453.html
            1. g1v2
              g1v2 18 October 2017 19: 00
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              Any modern production has either foreign components, or is done using imported machines. FOR EVERY NEWS. WHICH YOU HAVE CONSIDERED DECIDABLE - THROW THE SUBSTANTIATION FOR THE AUTHOR. request If the news is linden, then it will be removed. Since many authors specialize in any particular subject, as a rule they don’t sculpt left photos and track their subject, but this also happens. Throw real or correct. If you do it correctly, and not in the "vsevrete" style, then no one will be offended. At least double-checked.
              Personally, I collect info on 5 Northwest regions. I rely, as a rule, on official news on the pages of regional administrations. If there is an inaccuracy, then the regional administration on its portal allowed it. request
              Moderators check everyone, and a lot of materials just do not reach publication. Of my three to five dozen thrown news, I publish alright if 3-4. The rest are either of low importance or someone has already got ahead or off topic. PM news much more than falls into the feed.
              Well, so. Any factory or production is jobs. money to the regional budget and a decrease in dependence on imports. If the specific news does not seem right to you, justify the author correctly. hi
              1. groks
                groks 18 October 2017 20: 06
                +1
                I am not going to collaborate with Unas. Hurray-patriots, who are generally just propagandists of EdR, as it became clear at AS, disfigured a good idea. Fritz also put his paw. I have already tried to give a real picture, on the ASh 20 bans, screams about extolling and suddenly accusations of liberalism - stunned logic.
                Validation / inaccuracy can only be done with your own feet and with your own eyes. And all the official ones, and even more so from the administration, which winds up points for itself - nafig.
                Workplaces? What kind? By what I know and what is easily verified. Zd.Im. Kalinina - all on lease, RudGorMash - bankrupt, VASO - 3,5 billion loss, VMZ - solder of the wrong system, .... I can continue the list. These were the jobs! At the opening of the sharashka for 10 people, for a screwdriver assembly - this is not a place, not a budget, and not a decrease in something there.
                1. smart ass
                  smart ass 19 October 2017 02: 38
                  +1
                  Here is a plus for your adequacy and common sense
  9. basmach
    basmach 18 October 2017 12: 21
    +5
    And let's see soberly. To tell half the truth (without voicing the details) is quite in the spirit of both the government and the GDP. Gross grain volume in 1990-120 million tons (. For sugar beets we are at the level of 1989 of the year, for meat - at 1987, for milk - and at all 1957, for eggs - 1982. I’m not talking about production wool - here we are at the 1922 level of the year (data from the Moscow Economic Forum - 2016)). This is despite the fact that over 30 years, technology and technology have improved quite significantly. But the question is not only in quantity, but also in quality. The grain is divided into 5 categories (classes). 1-3 writing classes, 4-5 feed classes. Until 90 in the USSR, the production of food grain predominated (1-3 class, more than 60%) and the USSR purchased fodder. In modern Russia, 1 class grain is not produced (from the word at all) 2 is practically the same. The share of the 3 class in recent years has fallen from 49% to 16%. the share of the 4 class increased from 30% to 60% and was recognized as food, the 5 class is 24%. And according to the latest GOST, you can add flour from 5 class grain to bread (when I found out about this, I asked my friend, not an ordinary employee of the bakery, did he confirm that everything was right). And in the USSR, to improve the quality, the 3-1 class was added to the flour of the 2 class. And a brick of bread (but the size remained the same) weighed 1kg- but at the same time 550gr., A sliced ​​loaf weighed 500gr- now 350.
    And grain export is not because there is an overabundance of grain (to ensure food safety, it is necessary to produce at least 1000 kg per person, in the USSR it was 937 kg, now 924), of which about 360 kg is directly for food, the rest is fodder for feeding livestock. However, the number of cattle (compared with the Russian Federation, not the USSR) fell 3 times (with an incredible abundance of meat products), the production of whole milk 2,6 times (with a huge selection of dairy products). more or less equal to the Russian Federation in poultry production and are approaching the production of pork. Therefore, the export of grain (not very high quality) -forced-it simply has nowhere to put in the country. As well as pork export (here the reason, though in another, is a drop in the purchasing power of the population). Due to the poor quality of grain, such incidents as with Egypt occur. In general, it is very similar to the grain export of tsarist Russia. Agrarian emigrant economist P.I. Lyashchenko wrote in his 1927 work in the 19 year of the end of the 20-beginning of the 7 century: “Russian bread was not taken by the best and dearest customers. To Russian clean and high-grade grain of uniformly high standards, American strict trade organization, aging in supply and prices, Russian exporters opposed clogged grain (often with direct abuse), varietal, not matching commercial samples, thrown onto the foreign market without any system and aging at the least favorable conditions, often in the form of goods, unsold and only in the path of a seeking buyer. ” Therefore, Russian merchants had to play on the proximity of the market, price duties, etc. In Germany, for example, Russian grain was sold cheaper than world prices: wheat for 8-6 cop., Rye for 7-3 cop., Oats for 4-XNUMX cop. for pood.
    Yes, and industrialized countries mainly import grain, producing a product with a higher added value (no, I do not advocate killing agriculture, otherwise we will be devoured ourselves, the question of export structure is grain, we have complex technical products, like in colonies) . That's how it is.
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    2. g1v2
      g1v2 18 October 2017 14: 39
      +3
      Did you live in the late USSR? Remember the sausage with food pulp? How did the huge queues stand behind her and the cheese? I remember very well how I brought food from St. Petersburg to the Volga region. How did you buy wheat in Canada and the USA? What about Bush’s legs? No need to tell how awesome cx was in the late USSR. IT CAN BE. BUT ON HUNDREDS OF ITS PRODUCTS WASN'T AND WE PURCHASED. There was a lot of good in the USSR, but the food was full of shank. hi
      1. groks
        groks 18 October 2017 15: 02
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        In which - late? When GOSTs were in effect, there could be no pulp in the sausage. Even with a hunchback. Sausages were piled up in co-trade. True, not according to 2.20, as in Moscow or Leningrad.
        The cheese was simply unmeasured. Of everyone. Like fish.
        They bought wheat. Because they could not provide feed for cattle. And then they began to build a BVK, howled green, definitely paid green and an excellent undertaking was covered.
        And the legs of the bush appeared almost already with the drunk, which can hardly be considered at least some kind of USSR.
        Right now, even expensive sausage - with cellulose. Don’t understand the meat, the chicken is double-fried. There are many things. so in the Soviet co-trade there were many. Reason to name or so clear?
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 18 October 2017 15: 33
          +3
          Apparently your memory is selective. By the way, the addition of food pulp at that time was completely tolerated by the guests. It was precisely because of her that the bike went about, the fact that Soviet sausage was made from toilet paper. What they said about food then - review any programs of those years. Refresh your memory.
          Well, personally from me. Supermarket named after Osipenko, who is now known in St. Petersburg as "Narodniy". A crowd stands in front of an empty counter for several hours, including myself. At 15-00 a window opens and a couple of dozen pieces of sausage and cheese in a film are thrown onto the counter like cattle. A crowd throws themselves at them and after a few minutes the counter is empty again. Who did not have time - he was late. The year is 87-88. Before the collapse of another 4 years. The main acquaintance in the notebook is a meat chopper who pushed the meat to the left. He could buy several kilograms of normal meat from under the floor and take his grandfather to the Volga region.
          Have you forgotten your coupons for sugar? I don’t need to drive a blizzard. I remember all this very well. And how I spent the night with my father in a truck in Moscow in line at a furniture store. to buy a horseradish cupboard. request
          I repeat. There was a lot of good in the USSR and it could be brought into a divine form. But in terms of eating and living, better than now, we have never lived. Another thing is that the average person understands such things only when he loses. hi
          1. groks
            groks 18 October 2017 20: 50
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            She's just good. Last seen discussion of Soviet GOSTs on sausage with Max in LJ. vinauto777. There, GOSTs themselves are given and an intelligible discussion.
            But I can say so that there is no "food pulp" there, and indeed it was not then, food. So do not repeat the tales of demshiza.
            I already wrote about sausage - if it occurred to me, then I went and calmly bought it in a co-trade. I doubt that there were problems with her in Leningrad before Sobchak and his suitcase carrier.
            About the meat cutter, too, a strange remark - was there any way to go to the bazaar? About cheese really.
            I left Voronezh in the Far East at 86. Preserved squids appeared in stores, moreover in plastic. There was so much cheese that there is less now.
            I ended up in the Far East in Dalnerechensk, and I probably won’t find it on the map without a hint. Those. this is not Vladivostok at all, where the jaw simply fell away. But half-meter crab limbs were not translated in the store.
            About coupons artificially created with a hunchback deficit mountains of articles are written. This has a weak relation to the USSR. The real deficit was for a simple reason - high purchasing power. If you now adjust the prices and salaries, utilities, then the stores will be empty at the moment.
            About a shitty cupboard, too, do not really believe it. In general, what kind of life is this - for the sausage in Leningrad, where it suddenly is not there, and for the cabinet in Moscow? Why not the other way around? Already sausage in Moscow could even choke at any time.
            Now we are eating up the backlog of the USSR. and eat stupidly. But with our government, nothing else.
            1. your1970
              your1970 20 October 2017 15: 35
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              "I already wrote about sausage - if it occurred to me, then I went and calmly bought it in a co-trade." - a boiled pot in Moscow cost 2,20 - our smoked cooptorg one cost 7 rubles in 1984, which is why no one took it and lay until it was completely rotten. There was cheese? There was sausage, others were transported from Moscow. Our butter was brought from Saratov for 300 km on-site to sell no-no.
              Chinese sneakers for 30 rubles - in order to buy them you had to hand over 100 kg of oil, get a coupon, find out when there will be a delivery at the raipo, arrive on time, find out that there is no right size, buy any, find the owner of the right one and exchange it with him .... Yes, I forgot the main thing
              these 100 kg of oil had still somewhere to find / buy ....1984 year
          2. oracul
            oracul 22 October 2017 07: 41
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            And that’s all that you understood and remembered. Turn on your brains. Products during the Soviet period were not enough, first of all, because the price did not work. Yes, cooked sausage cost from 1,60 p. to 2,40 p., but they bought it not with grams as it is now, but with sticks, because it was not there. The formula is simple - demand creates supply, and they are balanced by price. In the USSR, they tried to solve the problem by increasing production, keeping the price. It takes time and resources. Whether business now - the demand has balanced up the price. No worries with ramping up production. Not enough - buy over the hill. True, they may not sell. Sanctions are called.
      2. basmach
        basmach 18 October 2017 16: 01
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        Lived in 85 I had 17 near the school there was a store, standard prod
        And cheese and butter were constantly and without queues. The city is district. Then the 5 years of the Tambov WWAI
        So i remember
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    4. Catherine II
      Catherine II 18 October 2017 21: 51
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      Quote: basmach
      In modern Russia, 1 class grain is not produced (from the word at all) 2 is practically the same.

      from 2004 to the present, due to the transition of Russia from the status of a country importing grain to the status of one of the leading world exporters of wheat grain. A positive fact is that in 2008-2009. we are among the five world leaders in grain export, however, in terms of grain quality, we are still moving in one direction - we are losing it further. The new market conditions and, above all, the export of Russian grain caused a greater orientation than before in the southern region (primarily the Krasnodar and Stavropol Territories) to the production of grain of the 4 and even 5 classes (according to indicators on the border with the 4 class )

      export price - we take in quantity, not quality.
      In Ukraine, the same oil painting (although the sites offer wheat 1 class production of Ukraine, but Agroinform says that there is no production). Unless there is still 2 grade. But the price of export dictates the conditions for the production of quantity.
      We would still have the productivity of New Zealand ...
  10. Lelek
    Lelek 18 October 2017 12: 26
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    (The CEO of EkoNiva-APK holding Stefan Duerr, as it turned out, was from the Germans. He came to the USSR in 1989 under a specialist exchange program. She speaks Russian, German, Norwegian.)

    German business in Russia is pragmatic in spite of the imposed sanctions and viciousness of the near and distant neighbors on the planet.
  11. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 18 October 2017 14: 34
    +3
    This is all our ministers, different Dvorkovichs, Tkachevs, Oreshkins, etc. The situation is seen only on one side. I’m here to ask these figures for a hunt: Do we produce seeds ourselves? And breeding cattle? Are all fertilizers made with us? And how much feed do we produce? And why, as soon as prices for products abroad rise, our greedy producer redirects the lion's share of production there, leaving a little bit for local consumption. What immediately affects the prices here! Why do we have elementary apples (Arkhangelsk) about 100 rubles per kg? Will Dvorkovich answer me? The question is rhetorical, there will be no answer.
    1. groks
      groks 18 October 2017 15: 05
      +1
      Neither seeds, nor material for fertilization, nor additives in the feed, and often the feed itself. We produce fertilizers and they all leave - nationalization of losses with the privatization of profits.
  12. Normal ok
    Normal ok 18 October 2017 14: 36
    0
    The share of the value of agricultural production (in all categories of farms) in the total GDP in 2015 year, according to AB Center estimates, was at the level of 6,3%. Well, agriculture does not pull on the locomotive of the Russian economy.
    At the same time, although agricultural products have their own, but prices are still rising. Paradox?!
    1. Catherine II
      Catherine II 18 October 2017 22: 00
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      Quote: Normal ok
      At the same time, although agricultural products have their own, but prices are still rising. Paradox?!

      is it? Balance of export-domestic consumption. The domestic market cannot buy (purchasing power is low-foreign consumes at a discount. As a result, the margin is low, and the domestic price rises to export. For the supply is reduced. The opposite should be the case — if the domestic price is high, then import will not be more profitable and the price will not be But as usual this doesn’t work ...
      Although with sugar (if you remember the price increase to imported cane) it worked. Could not push the rise above the import. However, there are many factors ..
  13. CONTROL
    CONTROL 18 October 2017 14: 47
    +1
    Sacramental "Comment deleted!"
    And he, a commentary, illustrated the picture: the fact that Russia was not far along the path of economic independence from opposing it, imposing “hysterical” sanctions of the West.
    The Washington Consensus - adopted / pushed into Russia back in the late 80s, is what you should think about!
    The Ten Commandments of the Washington Consensushttps://www.planet-kob.ru/articles/6505
    ------------------------------------
    (however, the link to the indicated resource is somewhat annoying to the site administration! it is obvious that they tried to ban the BER resources with the involvement of judicial and ideological pressure; and from whom this pressure comes ...
    VO joined him?)
  14. afrikanez
    afrikanez 18 October 2017 15: 13
    +1
    All these relations are not. nothing more than a complete lack of real information. "They" would often need to be taken to the villages (real and not "advanced"), then it would have come to an understanding that agriculture was almost completely destroyed. What can I say, how many yards has a cow now ??? Units !!!
  15. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 18 October 2017 15: 41
    +1
    Quote: Victor N

    0
    victor n Today, 12:22 ↑ New
    Wait. The right officials will also be brought to you. Do not be distracted by haymaking!
    Are Siberians waiting for advice on how to survive?

    We know how to survive. But when will we start living humanly?
    1. Cadet
      Cadet 18 October 2017 20: 08
      +4
      It was necessary to make at least an elementary thing for the villagers in the Union: roads when milk had to be transported from bases to creameries 30-50 km by dirt and ruts, sometimes clinging to a DT-75 tug, grain was also taken for harvesting if the five-year rainy period how many poor men got tired when they traveled to Tyumen from Ishim for 300 km sometimes a month, a month. Machinery, with such productivity as it is now in the south of the country, such combines as SKD-6, would have died, elementarily from a lack of engine power, that it was impossible to make at least some kind of conditions for tractor drivers and combine harvesters, but they almost survived until retirement survived, there was a lot of equipment and all sorts of things, sometimes it was ruined right away because sometimes there was gouging. And these all sorts of beautiful movements on the corners on combines and tractors with flags and keeping a distance, how many mats were there from men from this beauty, and where to get spare parts? there is a blat in the RDP, you take meat, oil, potatoes, honey and you go there then your parts are there or not, Kirovets will come to the state farm and antifreeze is already drained and there are no headlights, they’ve already dragged into the RDP, you go there and shake them. sometimes they drove whole convoys from state farms to the north of the Tyumen Region for spare parts; they brought meat, oil, chicken, and from there there was a shortage; rubber, lining for cars, batteries, equipment for diesel engines, etc. They had a bunch of Lawns and Zilov, although Kamaz and Ural would be enough. What was impossible to carry gas to the village? In the Tyumen region they drowned with firewood and now many people drown it. So the youth left the village, few wanted to rut and dirt to kindergarten and then to go to school, and then swearing to bring grain or milk along the road. That it was impossible for people in the village to sell tractors like t-25 or t-16, they invented the miracles of technology from the trash, and local authorities sought to take it all away and destroy it. Stupid standards for the delivery of scrap metal to state farms, when sometimes new plows and seeders were scrapped or simply drowned or buried. And so people worked and did their job no worse than in other areas of labor and fought for their homeland, how many guys after Afghanistan worked hard on cleaning and sowing, sometimes after injuries, there was no time to be treated. It is hard work to engage in crop production and livestock raising.
  16. Fedya2017
    Fedya2017 18 October 2017 21: 32
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    [quote] [/ quote] Well, if so - "thanks to sanctions, the country's agriculture is booming" ... "Urryaaa Putin" ... "He said" .... "He signed" ... It turns out that, don’t be sanctions would all be the same? So you need to thank abroad, not Putin? ... So it turns out.
  17. Catherine II
    Catherine II 18 October 2017 22: 11
    0
    Raising the C / s is good, but the locomotive is not worth doing. Only industry. Products with high added value.
    The area of ​​risky farming still needs to be subsidized.
    But now the period is favorable in terms of climate. Russia has never lived in such a climate.
    As for Indonesia and pork, this is a joke about a Jew. (A Jew got a job at Vneshexport.)
    Remember, there is an ending-
    And in Africa, the problem was not so much to find a Jew as to create a Parliament and a Government. And then everything is simple.

    Similarly, pork in Indonesia. Moreover, there are not only Muslims. On average, 2.3 kg per year per person in a multi-million dollar country. There, people even eat dog meat .... and snakes and monkeys ..
  18. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 19 October 2017 10: 35
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    Quote: Cadet
    It was necessary to make at least an elementary thing for the villagers in the Union: roads when milk had to be transported from bases to creameries 30-50 km by dirt and ruts, sometimes clinging to a DT-75 tug, grain was also taken for harvesting if the five-year rainy period how many poor men got tired when they traveled to Tyumen from Ishim for 300 km sometimes a month, a month. Machinery, with such productivity as it is now in the south of the country, such combines as SKD-6, would have died, elementarily from a lack of engine power, that it was impossible to make at least some kind of conditions for tractor drivers and combine harvesters, but they almost survived until retirement survived, there was a lot of equipment and all sorts of things, sometimes it was ruined right away because sometimes there was gouging. And these all sorts of beautiful movements on the corners on combines and tractors with flags and keeping a distance, how many mats were there from men from this beauty, and where to get spare parts? there is a blat in the RDP, you take meat, oil, potatoes, honey and you go there then your parts are there or not, Kirovets will come to the state farm and antifreeze is already drained and there are no headlights, they’ve already dragged into the RDP, you go there and shake them. sometimes they drove whole convoys from state farms to the north of the Tyumen Region for spare parts; they brought meat, oil, chicken, and from there there was a shortage; rubber, lining for cars, batteries, equipment for diesel engines, etc. They had a bunch of Lawns and Zilov, although Kamaz and Ural would be enough. What was impossible to carry gas to the village? In the Tyumen region they drowned with firewood and now many people drown it. So the youth left the village, few wanted to rut and dirt to kindergarten and then to go to school, and then swearing to bring grain or milk along the road. That it was impossible for people in the village to sell tractors like t-25 or t-16, they invented the miracles of technology from the trash, and local authorities sought to take it all away and destroy it. Stupid standards for the delivery of scrap metal to state farms, when sometimes new plows and seeders were scrapped or simply drowned or buried. And so people worked and did their job no worse than in other areas of labor and fought for their homeland, how many guys after Afghanistan worked hard on cleaning and sowing, sometimes after injuries, there was no time to be treated. It is hard work to engage in crop production and livestock raising.

    I completely agree. So it is.