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Eurostat has published data on the level of poverty in the EU

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European Statistics Agency Eurostat publishes the results of the poverty situation in the European Union countries. The citizens of those countries that literally rush into the "united Europe", Eurostat data clearly do not inspire optimism. So, in the presented statistics it is said that almost every fourth EU resident is at risk or below the poverty line. The result is 23,4%. And this is more than 117 million people. At the same time, the concept of "poverty" is estimated, of course, by European standards.


The number of people living below the poverty line in the European Union has grown by over one and a half million people since 2008.

The largest number of EU citizens living below the poverty line live in countries such as Greece, Bulgaria and Romania. In Greece - 35,6% of citizens recognized as poor by Brussels, in Romania - 38,8%, in Bulgaria, and at all 40,4%. Greece was among the leaders in terms of the growth rate of the number of poor citizens along with Cyprus, Spain and, notably, Sweden.

Eurostat has published data on the level of poverty in the EU


The three leaders in the provision of population looks like this: Czech Republic, Finland and Denmark. The appearance of the Czech Republic in the first place in terms of the income level of the population seems to have surprised the European Union officials themselves.
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  1. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 17 October 2017 06: 55 New
    +5
    35,6% of citizens in Greece
    and this is in Greece, where everything is!
    1. Logall
      Logall 17 October 2017 07: 00 New
      +9
      Yeah, where you can’t get on the trolley!
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 17 October 2017 07: 03 New
        +7
        My friend left for Greece. Building a house. On retire ! fellow
        1. Logall
          Logall 17 October 2017 07: 08 New
          11
          To Russian or Greek?
          Is the difference in the amount probably significant?
          1. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee 17 October 2017 07: 25 New
            +5
            Russian, teacher's pension. True, she sold an apartment in Khabarovsk.
            1. Logall
              Logall 17 October 2017 07: 44 New
              +9
              Then it is clear! Apartments in Khabarovsk are well worth it. Is she going to receive a pension there or is she going to live on ours?
              1. Uncle lee
                Uncle lee 17 October 2017 07: 51 New
                +5
                She has our pension, who will give her Greek, she did not work there.
                1. Baloo
                  Baloo 17 October 2017 08: 14 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Uncle Lee
                  She has our pension, who will give her Greek, she did not work there.

                  Have communications been let down yet? How is the service?
                  1. Uncle lee
                    Uncle lee 17 October 2017 08: 20 New
                    +6
                    Attaches to an existing home.
                    PS And what is it that people are so interested in this fact?
                    1. Smog
                      Smog 17 October 2017 08: 51 New
                      +5
                      Quote: Uncle Lee
                      And why are people so interested in this fact?

                      They envy .........., probably ......
                      1. kapitan92
                        kapitan92 17 October 2017 08: 54 New
                        +7
                        Quote: Smog
                        They envy .........., probably ......

                        Or collect material for tax. laughing
                      2. Uncle lee
                        Uncle lee 17 October 2017 08: 55 New
                        +5
                        Wow, it’s relieved .... But I thought, let’s say the address of the piglets! request
                    2. Baloo
                      Baloo 17 October 2017 09: 36 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Uncle Lee
                      Attaches to an existing home.
                      PS And what is it that people are so interested in this fact?

                      and yet it’s interesting to compare the price of the issue and the maintenance of communications, tax, etc. with our realities. Not, address and name. passwords, appearances do not interest me. Just considering the prospect of moving from a city to a house in the village and driving to work. I just want to live in peace and quiet. hi
                      1. Uncle lee
                        Uncle lee 17 October 2017 09: 41 New
                        +4
                        I can not help you. Not interested in these issues. I know that they bought fish - very expensive by our standards
                      2. WUA 518
                        WUA 518 17 October 2017 09: 44 New
                        0
                        In Sardinia, a year ago, they sold houses for one euro. It is true, with the prospect of investing 10 thousand euros in it during the year.
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 17 October 2017 10: 42 New
                        +3
                        And the rubbish in which country, region. Is the area planned?
    2. Vend
      Vend 17 October 2017 08: 47 New
      +5
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      35,6% of citizens in Greece
      and this is in Greece, where everything is!

      Yes, in Greece there is everything, even the poor. laughing
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 17 October 2017 08: 55 New
        +6
        Checked out! +++++
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    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 17 October 2017 07: 08 New
      +5
      Some nonsense. The richest were always Luxembourgers, then came the Danes, Swedes, Germans, Dutch, Belgians, British and French

      Times are changing, so is life in the EU. It seems to me that there is nothing to be surprised. Open borders of wealth will not add. Emigrants exist at the expense of responsible taxpayers (indigenous people).
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 17 October 2017 08: 21 New
      11
      Moreover, the concept of “poverty” is estimated, naturally, by European standards.
      For the Russian 30 million people who are below the poverty line, being poor by European standards would be the solution to all economic problems! And not only for them and for many others as well, especially for pensioners.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 17 October 2017 09: 19 New
        +8
        Quote: Stas157
        Moreover, the concept of “poverty” is estimated, naturally, by European standards.
        For the Russian 30 million people who are below the poverty line, being poor by European standards would be the solution to all economic problems! And not only for them and for many others as well, especially for pensioners.

        Yesterday, in the comment thread of the article “Putin is doing well, his empire is recovering”, you were very upset by the Eurostat table on the topic of this study, due to the fact that Russia is not the worst. Today, having received information from another source, you are again saddened by the fact that in a number of European countries the situation is still worse than in Russia and as a “highlight” you shake “European standards”, which, in your opinion, would be a solution to economic problems for “hungry people” "Russians. No Stas, would not. If a loaf of bread in Russia costs an average of 25-35 rubles, then in the same Germany the price of a loaf of bread weighing 0,5 kg. costs 1,34 euros. A kilo of potatoes in the Russian Federation an average of 20-25 rubles, in Germany - 1,01 euros. Translate these prices at the exchange rate and it turns out that by European standards for which you advocate, a Russian should buy a loaf of bread for 100 rubles and a kilo of potatoes for 70 rubles. If you count our consumer basket by EU standards, then our pensioners will watch you around the corner and tear you to shreds))) so that you return them to the usual Russian standard. Just don’t need about the fact that they have “hoo” pensions, unlike ours, since they have higher prices than ours. As for Russia, here is the weather correlation of the average salary and prices.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 17 October 2017 09: 55 New
          +7
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Yesterday, in the comment thread for the article "Putin is fine, his empire is recovering," you were very upset by the Eurostat table

          No, I just proved that your table is a filkin letter, and the numbers there are not correct. Therefore, you, and not me, should have been upset. Look again at this topic, I pointed out there an error in your calculations.
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          you are again upset that in a number of European countries the situation is still worse than in Russia and shake “European standards” as a “highlight”

          Sorry again ?? Why are you all trying to imagine me upset! Do not judge by yourself. OK? And these same "European standards", I’m not shaking, I just recognized them from the message of the respected Lganha
          Quote: Lgankhi
          in Germany, speaks of a poverty line of 880 euros per month and classifies the poor as 18% of the German population.

          In any case, thank you that my messages cause you genuine interest.
      2. Abracadabrus
        Abracadabrus 19 October 2017 16: 52 New
        0
        Quote: Stas157
        Moreover, the concept of “poverty” is estimated, naturally, by European standards.
        For the Russian 30 million people who are below the poverty line, being poor by European standards would be the solution to all economic problems! And not only for them and for many others as well, especially for pensioners.

        ABOUT! Again this groan that some liberal citizens call a song. But who authorized you to cry for pensioners, for example? Do you personally feel bad? So speak personally for yourself, but rather, generally relive your grief somehow yourself. They got it already with their whining.
    3. Smog
      Smog 17 October 2017 08: 54 New
      +4
      Quote: Lgankhi
      Some nonsense

      But I won’t even add anything of mine.
      “There are three types of lies: lies, blatant lies, and statistics,”
      laughing
  3. 210ox
    210ox 17 October 2017 06: 58 New
    +6
    Yes, and well, they’re in the bathhouse. And how are we doing with this matter .. Only without statistics from Kiselyov? There will be enough interest for forty ...
    1. raw174
      raw174 17 October 2017 07: 40 New
      +5
      Quote: 210ox
      Yes, and well, they’re in the bathhouse. And how are we doing with this matter .. Only without statistics from Kiselyov? There will be enough interest for forty ...

      All statistics are VERY approximate figures. Whoever compiles, he displays in the right direction and there is no objective data, because there is a specific customer of the study. I know this because I myself participated in both the polls and the polls.
      Whoever dines with the girl dances her!
    2. Alexanast
      Alexanast 17 October 2017 08: 03 New
      +6
      Interest under forty typed ...


      This is by what trait to measure ... And even more.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 17 October 2017 08: 08 New
        +2
        Quote: Alexanast
        Interest under forty typed ...


        This is by what trait to measure ... And even more.

        it depends on what "office" the "poll" to conduct ... in Gazprom, one thing ... and "in the area" -saaaavsem completely different ...
    3. bald
      bald 17 October 2017 08: 38 New
      0
      Most likely, taking into account unemployment, even without labor, employers are barging and no one will ask them - no one. And try, for example, in Germany to help a relative build a house and the neighbors will see it. They will surrender only this way and then you will not prove that you helped simply, not for money.
    4. Abracadabrus
      Abracadabrus 19 October 2017 17: 22 New
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      Yes, and well, they’re in the bathhouse. And how are we doing with this matter .. Only without statistics from Kiselyov? There will be enough interest for forty ...

      Somehow you were modest. Let’s say right away, in bulk - 90% of Russians die from poverty, hunger and lack of drugs. This is the scope! And then 40% is somehow frivolous.
  4. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 17 October 2017 06: 58 New
    +1
    Ah, the poor and the strange crying The statistics will still be spoiled if migrants arrive and arrive (the milling people will definitely not come from Syria-Libya-Afghanistan lol )
  5. jovanni
    jovanni 17 October 2017 07: 10 New
    +5
    Moreover, the concept of “poverty” is estimated, naturally, by European standards.

    Key phrase.
  6. Herculesic
    Herculesic 17 October 2017 07: 12 New
    +8
    Poverty for them, and poverty for our population are two really huge differences! They would honestly describe such an extreme point of poverty as poverty, if they have such, and then they would see that there is real poverty on the example of Central Asian empires (former Soviet republics) and ukroiny, which with the hands of the EU kills the remnants of the economy. I don’t shout that everything is fine with us, it’s just that we are not going to Central Asia as guest workers, and, thank God, it was not ours that we had a maidan!
    1. Lganhi
      Lganhi 17 October 2017 07: 35 New
      +1
      Poverty in Somalia or Congo is such that the poor of these countries envy our homeless people.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 17 October 2017 08: 41 New
        +6
        Quote: Lgankhi
        Poverty in Somalia or Congo is such that the poor of these countries envy our homeless people.

        I don’t think so! I remember a homeless person settled in our porch when it was minus 30 on the street. He was still not an old sick man, to whom no one had rendered any medical care. They don’t take them in the hospital! He was hungry and dirty, he stank of the whole porch. He tearfully requested that the inhabitants do not drive him out into the street ... It was terrible to look at all this horror! I can’t imagine how he slept on ice concrete! Then he disappeared. Maybe someone kicked him out. But in any case, in Russia, homeless people are treated without humanity. For the authorities, and for people like me and you, homeless people simply do not exist! And these are the same people. They experience great suffering and die quickly. But there is no statistics even about that. And to justify their position by the fact that they are better than the homeless in Africa, this is sacrilegious.
        1. Lganhi
          Lganhi 17 October 2017 08: 50 New
          +2
          They themselves are to blame for being in this position. They were led to this by weakness of will, alcoholism, laziness, and irresponsibility. No matter how much you help them, they will still be so. My classmate had an uncle, he lived with his mother, how he lived, appeared once a week, laundered, slept, ate away for a couple of days and again disappeared for several days. He stole a jacket from his nephew and sold it, spent the proceeds on a drink, took a telly, a tape recorder, a VCR from his mother’s house, he also drank it all. Although his family was normal, he had many brothers, they were all decent, working people, some even very big bosses, tried to help his brother, coded him, arranged for work, but then they waved his hand at him, as it was useless.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 17 October 2017 09: 02 New
            +3
            Quote: Lgankhi
            They themselves are to blame for being in this position.

            Quote: Lgankhi
            then they waved a hand at him, as it was useless.
            Let's forget about them! Let them die. Did I understand you correctly?
            All the same, it seems to me that Russia has the means to organize some sort of shelters, not tricky feeding, and basic medical care for those in need. In the decaying West all this is. Why do not we have? Who is more human after that?
            1. CentDo
              CentDo 17 October 2017 10: 31 New
              +4
              Well, allocate money from your budget, organize shelters, etc. Most of them had everything, including their own housing. Only now the bottle turned out to be closer to them than normal life. And how much you don’t invest in them, they will still spend every penny found on a hole. Our state does not have money for the normal support of young families (about pensioners who have worked all their lives, and now they barely make ends meet, I generally am silent), and you suggest that you even spend the crumbs on a group of people useless for society.
              1. Gransasso
                Gransasso 17 October 2017 10: 47 New
                +2
                Quote: CentDo
                Well, allocate money from your budget, organize shelters, etc. Most of them had everything, including their own housing. Only now the bottle turned out to be closer to them than normal life. And how much you don’t invest in them, they will still spend every penny found on a hole. Our state does not have money for the normal support of young families (about pensioners who have worked all their lives, and now they barely make ends meet, I generally am silent), and you suggest that you even spend the crumbs on a group of people useless for society.



                Maybe they are in a concentration camp ... or shot? ... along with pensioners ... sick ... disabled ... useless for society ... somewhere I already heard it ...
                1. CentDo
                  CentDo 17 October 2017 11: 09 New
                  +2
                  I did not say anything about the disabled! No need to attribute too much! And he mentioned pensioners as those whom it was just necessary to provide. And if you choose between providing pensioners and homeless people, then I will choose the first. And you?
                  And excuse me, but these are your cockroaches, if you consider pensioners and invalids useless for society. I didn’t say that.
              2. Stas157
                Stas157 17 October 2017 15: 04 New
                +4
                Quote: CentDo
                Well, highlight

                Quote: CentDo
                organize

                Why are you telling me what to do?
                Quote: CentDo
                and you suggest even spending the existing crumbs on a group of people that is useless for society.
                Let's kill them right away so that we don’t suffer. It will be more merciful!
                I also tried to say about this, what complete indifference our people show to homeless people. As if they were not people at all, but some kind of insects.
                1. CentDo
                  CentDo 17 October 2017 17: 08 New
                  +1
                  I do not point you, but suggest. If you are so worried about them, then why not help yourself? What did you do for that homeless person who spent the night at your entrance? Why was he forced to sleep on ice concrete? Could you give him an old blanket or mattress? How much money have you donated to charities that help the homeless?
                  Why should the state spend billions (moreover from our own taxes) on those who themselves let their lives down the toilet? We do not live in paradise, and no one is obliged to give them a second chance. Especially at the expense of other people. For some reason, you consider them victims (for some reason), and I repeat: most of them had housing, had work, they received education. Who prevented a normal life? Vodka?
                2. Abracadabrus
                  Abracadabrus 19 October 2017 17: 15 New
                  0
                  Why are you telling me what to do?

                  And everything is very simple. You criticize - offer. Suggest - do it. And then you somehow worry a lot in words, but you should offer to confirm the words with deed, so immediately - "do not tell me what to do." For God's sake! But then you do not tell us how everything is bad with us. Relive it yourself. Go to a psychoanalyst in the end. In Europe it is fashionable.
            2. urganov
              urganov 17 October 2017 11: 08 New
              0
              And who told you about the lack of shelters, feedings and medicine for people without a specific residence? It’s just that you never experienced this as a phenomenon, and as a result, you weren’t even interested.
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 17 October 2017 15: 08 New
                +5
                Quote: urganov
                And who told you about the lack of shelters, feedings and medicine for people without a specific residence? It’s just that you never experienced this as a phenomenon, and as a result, you weren’t even interested.

                I heard that in Moscow and St. Petersburg they are organizing something for the homeless. At what, I realized this is a private, not a state initiative. But these two cities are not the whole vast Russia. In other cities for the most part there is nothing!
          2. Black5Raven
            Black5Raven 17 October 2017 20: 00 New
            0
            Quote: Lgankhi
            They themselves are to blame for being in this position.

            Many are not. In some cases, deceived, abandoned, no relatives left. Anything can happen.
        2. rotmistr60
          rotmistr60 17 October 2017 13: 18 New
          0
          For Stas157
          in Russia, homeless people are treated without humanity

          You are not quite right. Overnight shelters are being built (we have opened in Khabarovsk), dinners are distributed. And the attitude at the household level differs little from the European one. There he will not stay at night in the entrance.
        3. alatanas
          alatanas 17 October 2017 13: 40 New
          +1
          Homeless people in Africa are better, because there "-" does not happen.
          1. Black5Raven
            Black5Raven 17 October 2017 19: 58 New
            0
            Not better, believe me.
          2. Abracadabrus
            Abracadabrus 19 October 2017 17: 16 New
            0
            Quote: alatanas
            Homeless people in Africa are better, because there "-" does not happen.

            But with their "+" you can move the horses thirst for one or two from thirst.
  7. Moskovit
    Moskovit 17 October 2017 07: 32 New
    +2
    If you evaluate visually, Germany still looks richer than all. And Greece is really poor, but the Greeks are very nice to us, many in the tourist areas speak Russian, there are not so many blacks and Arabs as in Germany. And the sea is there with the sun. Therefore, better poor and funny Greeks than rich and serious Germans).
  8. Eurodav
    Eurodav 17 October 2017 07: 32 New
    0
    Quote: Lgankhi
    Some nonsense. The richest were always Luxembourgers, then came the Danes, Swedes, Germans, Dutch, Belgians, British and French. The Czechs were never particularly rich.
    Germany is one of the prime examples of a rich country with many poor people. Every 6th German is below the poverty line. In 10 years, almost half of the country will be below the poverty line. Yes, you didn’t misheard in Germany officially 18 percent of those living below the poverty line. The country is starving and unable to feed its citizens, not that there is still a stream of refugees from the Middle East.
    Yes, seeing such headlines, I became interested. How can this be ... I began to understand.
    To be honest, we would starve like that) And it becomes clear why refugees from Syria are fleeing there.
    For example, in France and Russia the number of people living below the poverty line (these are 2014 data) ... is the same (about 13%), and in the USA it is even higher than 14.3%, and in the EU - 17%. Statistics do not deceive, simply by poverty in different countries of the world are meant absolutely different things.
    Most of the poor are in countries - Latvia (26%), Romania (23%), Bulgaria (21%), Lithuania (20%). The smallest number of poor people in the Czech Republic (9%).

    Poor in the European Union are those citizens whose income (including social benefits) is less than 60% of the level of salary in the country of residence. Salaries in the EU countries are different, therefore, to be considered poor in Luxembourg, you need to receive less than 18,5 thousand euros per year. In Denmark, the poverty level is 14,5 thousand, in Ireland - 13,7 thousand, Great Britain - 13,1 thousand, Sweden - 12,1 thousand, Finland - 11,8 thousand, Germany - 10,9 thousand The lowest poverty threshold was recorded in Romania (1,1 thousand) and Bulgaria (1,3 thousand).
    Poverty in Europe is determined not by income, but by the availability of material wealth. Eurostat (European Statistical Agency) identifies 9 types of material goods: the ability to eat meat (poultry, fish) at least every other day, the presence of a car, washing machine, TV, phone, the possibility of at least a week's vacation spent away from your home, the ability to pay for unforeseen expenses (i.e. the availability of savings), the ability to maintain the necessary temperature in your home, etc. If at least 3 of these material goods are missing, then the family should be considered poor.
    If we focus only on Germany, the rating calculated by the respected German economic institute DIW and based on the price structure of consumer goods in Germany, speaks of the poverty line of 880 euros per month and classifies the poor as 18% of the German population.

    In 2015, the number of poor people in Russia grew to approximately 23 million and continues to grow. The poverty rate in Russia is 16 percent. At the same time, the cost of living in the second quarter of 2015 increased to 10 thousand 017 rubles. This is at today's rate, about 1700 Euro per year. 6 times lower than in Germany, but higher than in Bulgaria and Romania.
    The average salary is 32000 rubles per month, which is 440 Euros.

    And what about Ukraine? In 2015, the poverty level in Ukraine can reach up to 33%. According to the law on the state budget for 2015, the cost of living for one person per month from January 1, 2015 is set at 1176 UAH. At today's rate, it is 590 Euro per year.
    The average salary is 3120 UAH. per month, this is 130 Euro.
    https://stalinist.livejournal.com/1211832.html

    After the WWII, the Czechs did not live quite badly, the return of the Czech corps from Russia with part of the gold reserves of RI affected. And they came to WWII with decent industry, remember their tanks, which they had been riveting for Adik for a long time ... They don’t say much about them in the EU, how can it be, the former country of the socialist camp, the Slavs live normally, well, no way ! And now, apparently, it’s not possible to hide the truth!
    1. Lganhi
      Lganhi 17 October 2017 07: 38 New
      0
      Well, I don’t know, in Wiki per capita income averages a little less than 18 thousand dollars, in France and Germany more than 40 thousand dollars.
      1. Vard
        Vard 17 October 2017 07: 50 New
        +5
        The richest ... judging by the prices ... the country is Russia ... For example ... Claretin ... a cure for allergies ... in the same Czech Republic costs four times less than ours ...
      2. urganov
        urganov 17 October 2017 11: 17 New
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        Do you think it is correct to compare the same amounts in Germany and Greece? Try to compare how much free money is left in the household per capita after mandatory social payments, taxes, and housing and insurance, taking into account local prices. And then you can compare income. And do not forget to consider what we consider a priori free: forest, water, natural resources and more. Try to calculate the real consumption, not its monetary equivalent.
  9. APASUS
    APASUS 17 October 2017 07: 49 New
    +3
    Something nonsense. They attributed Sweden to the poor, and the Czechs to the rich. Where did Germany and the Benelux countries go? And our beloved Baltic states has become a millionaire?
  10. Altona
    Altona 17 October 2017 07: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: Moskovit
    Therefore, better poor and funny Greeks than rich and serious Germans).

    -----------------------------
    Someone told me that the Greeks take large loans from a bank and immediately write a statement about their financial insolvency so as not to repay this loan. Courts, of course, consider these statements positively, as a result, Greek banks are empty and cannot normally repay debts of that Germany as a borrower. But I think that this is normal, given that Germany ditched the entire industry in Greece.
  11. screw cutter
    screw cutter 17 October 2017 07: 58 New
    0
    Well done Czechs, they’ve preserved everything from Soviet times and use their geographical position in the center of Europe, well, even suckers are bred by selling them trams and trolleybuses for millions.
    1. 97110
      97110 18 October 2017 10: 33 New
      0
      Quote: screw cutter
      even suckers bred selling them trams and trolleybuses for millions.

      With howitzers tied up?
  12. mlad
    mlad 17 October 2017 08: 21 New
    +1
    Quote: APASUS
    Something nonsense. They attributed Sweden to the poor, and the Czechs to the rich. Where did Germany and the Benelux countries go? And our beloved Baltic states has become a millionaire?

    Yes, in our Baltic countries all the poor went to England and as a result almost no one was left wink
    1. Smog
      Smog 17 October 2017 09: 00 New
      +4
      Quote: mlad
      Yes, in our Baltic countries all the poor went to England

      in the Baltics, millionaires work as plumbers and janitors ????????? Or are these professions not relevant to you, already ????
      1. screw cutter
        screw cutter 17 October 2017 09: 27 New
        +1
        Do not believe it, we transfer the good plumbers from hand to hand (expensive does not mean good) or by the little things ourselves. Call the plumber to clean the siphon - 15-20 euros and still they all run to England and Norway, because there are more social guarantees Only those who do not know how to drink remain.
        1. Lganhi
          Lganhi 17 October 2017 11: 01 New
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          Some little plumbers you earn. In Moscow, a plumber’s call to clean pipes costs 2000 rubles, which is 30 euros.
  13. Smog
    Smog 17 October 2017 08: 58 New
    +4
    Uncle lee,
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    Wow, it’s relieved .... But I thought, let’s say the address of the piglets! request

    And what? For yourself, save the address ?????? lol
  14. Livonetc
    Livonetc 17 October 2017 08: 59 New
    0
    Not convinced.
    This year was in the Czech Republic and Germany.
    When leaving Czech Republic and entering Germany, the difference is very noticeable and not in favor of the Czech Republic.
    And the Czechs from the side are very gloomy people for some reason.
    However, it is worth recognizing that they live well.
    With education and medicine, they are all right.
  15. BAI
    BAI 17 October 2017 09: 02 New
    0
    in Bulgaria, a total of 40,4%.

    But at the same time, per capita income is higher than in Russia.

    In Luxembourg, the "minimum" is almost 2 thousand euros, and the most modest minimum - in Bulgaria: 235 euros. Meanwhile, in Russia the minimum wage is 7,5 thousand rubles, or 120 euros, calculated: this is almost two times less than in the poorest Bulgaria and 16 times less than in prosperous Luxembourg.


    Wherein:
    In Russia, the minimum wage is also growing: 8 years ago it amounted to less than 4 thousand rubles. The only paradox is that in our country the minimum wage is almost 2 thousand lower than the cost of living. In Bulgaria and Romania, the situation is different: there enough for the poor to live onat least judging by a living wage of 200 euros.


    And do not say that
    Like, yes, the incomes of citizens in EU countries are greater, but if you compare the standard of living, purchasing power, taxes, then many Europeans can envy the Russians.

    If we were jealous, then we would have emigrants from Europe here would be full. And so only one Depardieu.
    1. pensioneree
      pensioneree 17 October 2017 10: 09 New
      0
      However, on the shore of the resort of Narva-Jysu, Russian businessmen are building houses, hotels, etc. My wife did "after the construction cleaning (cleaning company)" and met a pensioner from St. Petersburg. The mistress of 2-shki invited ALL, and this is 4 people, for tea. When asked about the cost of the apartment, she replied that she was able to maintain it and relax in the summer. And I'm a pensioner, NO!
    2. urganov
      urganov 17 October 2017 11: 21 New
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      So with us, and so emigrants are the most in the world, especially in terms of per capita. So be honest even to yourself.
  16. grandson of Perun
    grandson of Perun 17 October 2017 09: 44 New
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    Quote: Stas157
    Moreover, the concept of “poverty” is estimated, naturally, by European standards.
    For the Russian 30 million people who are below the poverty line, being poor by European standards would be the solution to all economic problems!

    Yes, there would be no solution to the problems!
    When they write about high salaries and pensions in the EU by our standards, they are modestly silent about the fact that in the EU more expensive. The communal apartment is very expensive, transportation and medicine are also ...
  17. den3080
    den3080 17 October 2017 09: 51 New
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    Such statistics are always very crafty and the comments are the same: if we had this in Russia (Latvia, Romania, etc.) - all the problems would be resolved and further envy ...

    and if in Russia:
    20 euros per month per person for water (number of residents / registered at this address),
    180-250 euros per month for maintenance of the house and the adjacent territory.
    and the like (electricity for example)
    this is for a one-room apartment common! up to 26-28 m2 ...
    and do not flatter yourself, a one-room apartment means that the kitchen is in the same room.
    if the kitchen is separate - the apartment is 2-bedroom.
    and the resident will not be able to pay the “rent” - they will be turned off and evicted very quickly, without any snot, even if this is your property, and the house society will receive income from the use of your property (rent) for a certain period of time specified in the court decision, usually this period is sufficient to pay off your debts and create a reserve in case you again decide not to pay.

    what I wrote above is if the apartment is in your property, and if you rent (rent) it, then this is 500/700 euros per month or more.

    it can be enumerated endlessly ... and if some proportions are applied for comparison comparison, then Russia looks very good. I assure you)))
  18. Altona
    Altona 17 October 2017 11: 21 New
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    Quote: den3080
    it can be enumerated endlessly ... and if some proportions are applied for comparison comparison, then Russia looks very good. I assure you)))

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    I’ve been saying about this for a long time that we don’t need to push their incomes onto ours and shout that they are richer. Yes, I can’t go to Italy twice a year, because Italy is stupid geographically farther away from me, and in the same Bavaria to go to Italy is like I’m in Nizhny from Kazan. For a number of factors, and even having decent vegetable gardens, where many have already cut back their country houses in Russia, it’s very good. It’s bad that our rulers are trying to push through bourgeois laws and make them pay almost for the air. This is extremely bad, for this I hate them, for restricting my true freedom.
  19. iouris
    iouris 17 October 2017 11: 25 New
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    When discussing statistics, one should take into account the law of exaltation of needs, which is absolute, and to distinguish between the absolute and relative impoverishment of the proletarians under capitalism. If the standard of living does not grow, then this is already a negative factor. The relative impoverishment is absolute and is due to the continuous reduction in the share of working time, during which the employee works "only for himself." In this sense, the most exploited part of the working people are the working people of the most developed countries (economies), primarily in Japan, Germany and the USA. It should also be understood that the introduction of revolutionary technologies (robotics, computer science) objectively leads to a sharp reduction in the number of jobs and lower labor costs and a steady increase in the army of surplus labor. Thus, the statistics must still be able to interpret correctly.
    1. ydjin
      ydjin 17 October 2017 12: 55 New
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      Quote: iouris
      When discussing statistics, one should take into account the law of exaltation of needs, which is absolute, and to distinguish between the absolute and relative impoverishment of the proletarians under capitalism. If the standard of living does not grow, then this is already a negative factor. The relative impoverishment is absolute and is due to the continuous reduction in the share of working time, during which the employee works "only for himself." In this sense, the most exploited part of the working people are the working people of the most developed countries (economies), primarily in Japan, Germany and the USA. It should also be understood that the introduction of revolutionary technologies (robotics, computer science) objectively leads to a sharp reduction in the number of jobs and lower labor costs and a steady increase in the army of surplus labor. Thus, the statistics must still be able to interpret correctly.

      I agree, it is necessary to introduce a progressive income tax! Why should the oligarchs not share the income from the use of natural resources belonging to all citizens of Russia, why should the privatizers of industry and the legacy of the USSR not share with those whom they robbed? This is the root of evil! Evil in our officials receiving sky-high salaries without bringing benefit to the citizens of Russia! Sniffed the bastards!
  20. 97110
    97110 18 October 2017 10: 29 New
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    Appearancesя The Czech Republic in first place in terms of income security of the population, it seems, surprised the officials themselves
    Well, if officials know Russian, then of course. And the author was not surprised by the mysterious "appearanceя"? Or" hands ask for a pen, a pen for paper ... "and re-read the written lack of time?