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How do data on Russians get to the terrorists in Syria?

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Recently, episodes of the following nature have attracted attention: the number of publications that has obviously become more frequent in the releases of the Ukrainian special services and on the Ukrainian media pages related to the activities of citizens of the Russian Federation in Syria. Especially frequent were publications devoted to the activities of the private military company (PMC) "Wagner". Taking into account the fact that any PMCs, to put it mildly, do not differ in excessive publicity, the facts about the Wagner PMC data (it is the Wagner PMC), which are at the disposal of the Ukrainian special services, look very interesting.


It would seem that foreign special services are foreign special services to do their work - in the Ukrainian case, frankly anti-Russian. But then all interest is far from this, but in what channels the information is extracted. And these channels cause great attention.

Data on the “growing losses” of PMCs Wagner in Syria are actively published on the portal called CIT (Conflict Intelligence Team) and is a community engaged in the collection and analysis of information relating to contemporary conflicts. Moreover, it is noteworthy that representatives of the Conflict Intelligence Team focus exclusively on those conflicts in which the Russian Federation is involved in one way or another. In the most recent place, the Syrian conflict is in the main place, about which CIT issues materials in a mode of reports. The Security Service of Ukraine, headed by Vasyl Hrytsak, is already referring to these materials. By the way, the publications are in Russian and English, which looks as reports not only to the SBU, but also to those who are in charge of the work of the Ukrainian Security Service today.

From the last on the CIT site:
In August-September, 2017, with the support of the Russian Aerospace Forces of the Russian Federation, the pro-Assad forces successfully developed an offensive in the territories in eastern Syria controlled by IG militants (* prohibited in the Russian Federation - author's comment). Along with reports of the release of settlements in social networks and the media, information about the death of Russian mercenaries began to appear more and more often. Next, we list the fighters of the PMC Wagner who died during the fighting in Syria over the past two months. 24 is a summer native of the city of Troitsk. In the photo (published on the site - author's note), accompanying the report on the death of Vitaly, several medals of the “Wagner Group”, as well as the departmental medal of the Russian Defense Ministry “For the return of the Crimea” are seen at once. Killed 22 September.


Further reported on the alleged deaths of other members of the PMC Wagner. Such names as Krizhanovsky (N.Novgorod), Nurullin (Kazan), Gladyshev (Perm), etc. are called.

Formally, everything looks as follows: representatives of the Conflict Intelligence Team portal that has been mentioned several times literally monitor thousands of websites and pages of Runet social networks day and night, find there information about the “wounds, deaths, funerals” of representatives of a private military company or “Russian military”, then transfer them to your website data published on external portals, and then this data flows into the SBU.

However, this is only formal. Often there is a situation when the head of the Security Service of Ukraine, Vasily Gritsak, during a briefing (press conference) cites materials about the death in Syria of people who allegedly have been involved in WWNP PMCs. These materials are then referred to by the Ukrainian media and foreign portals. Here is the material from October 11 on the official website of the SBU:
The Security Service of Ukraine continues to publish the data of mercenaries who participated in hostilities against the forces of the antiterrorist operation (“ATO” in the Donbas, author's note) as part of the PMC “Wagner”.

We are aware of many foreigners involved in the crimes in the composition of this terrorist group (this is how the Wagner PMCs are referred to by officials in Ukraine, - VO). The established data on persons who have been with Wagner PMCs in Ukraine since 2014 summer, and 2015 in Syria since August, regularly transmitted to the SBU by the appropriate channels and partner special services.

The Security Council of Ukraine, with the permission of the investigators, will publish the personal data of six Serbian citizens, in respect of whom irrefutable evidence of participation in the Wagner PMC has been collected. This is just the beginning.


Photo from the site of the SBU (graphic changes - "IN"):
How do data on Russians get to the terrorists in Syria?


The words of Gritsak about the transfer of data to the Security Service of Ukraine “by the appropriate channels” and “partner services” draw attention to themselves.

Of course, a certain part of this kind of information can be easily obtained in open access on the vast expanses of the Global Network. After all, there are people who, in pursuit of subscribers, merge that information, which hardly needs to be shared with millions of users, simply because not all of them came to the page to just like it ... However, there are some nuances that they say that it is not only through the monitoring of social networks that specific information is obtained about those who may be part of PMCs.

One of these nuances is the discovery in ISU clothes of the ISIL militant (*), which was eliminated in Deir ez-Zor province, a list with information on the PMCs of Wagner. Another similar nuance is the receipt by ISIL militants (*) of accurate data on the finding of Russian General Valery Asapov, Colonel Valery Fedyanin, which (the Russian military) was hit with a targeted blow. Another detail - not so long ago, on our website, footage from Syria was published - the fighters of the CAA drove the igilovtsy from the field camp. Interesting finds were found in this camp, including the Ukrainian flag hanging on the wall. By chance he was there? Not at all. Representatives of the same Jemilev natsbat, who had been preparing for a breakthrough to the Crimea, lived in the camp of terrorists. This battalion was originally fostered not without support in the form of foreign funding and the work of the Ukrainian special services.

Returning to the data on Russians discovered by the liquidated ISIS (*) militant, I must say that a remarkable photo was published on the Directorate-4 channel about a month ago. Next to what was left of the terrorist, there are papers that represent a printout of the texts of the Fontanka publication with data from one of the representatives of this publication. On paper, all the personal data of the Wagnerites right up to their call signs.



On the Telegram channel, Directocrate 4 was informed that they had contacted the St. Petersburg resource, but there they refused to discuss a photo from Syria, as they refused to comment on the publication of data on representatives of PMCs. By the way, the list on “Fontanka” is still “hanging” in the open access mode. For obvious reasons, I will not give you a link, anyone can google if they wish. There are even operational map of PMCs Wagner, scans of passports and much more. It turns out, a sort of analogue of the Ukrainian site "Peacemaker"? ..

If you put all these facts together, then it can be stated that an extensive network operates in Syria, whose mission is to inflict as much damage as possible on not only the government forces of the CAA, but also specifically on the Russian Federation (did you discover America ...) - then attempts to strike at Russian servicemen or representatives of a private military company. As a fact: the connection of this network with structures in Russia and Ukraine is traced.

What is the bottom line? The information is taken into account by terrorist groups, which, as the representatives of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have repeatedly reported, enjoy the clear support of the American intelligence forces and US special forces operating in the territory of the SAR. It is difficult to assume that the igilovtsy on the front line are independently self-sufficient Runet and social networks in order to identify the personal data of those who are fighting against them. Now ISIS (*) on the frontline is clearly not up to it. It is also difficult to assume that the Dzhebhat an-Nusra igilovtsy and militants (* banned in the Russian Federation) who are cornered have the ability to carry out active reconnaissance activities in the territories they are not controlled to receive information about the plans of relocation of Russian military advisers.

This is to the question that the support of international terrorism has acquired the features of a global campaign that includes whole state formations, organizations and, how terrible it sounds, those who consider themselves to be in the journalistic community ...
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  1. Dr. Hub
    Dr. Hub 17 October 2017 06: 54 New
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    Interesting article. One question arises, are they somehow trying to stop these leaks and are exposed at least to some extent that disseminate this information? I understand that formally everything is legal, but war is war and it’s not trifles.
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 October 2017 07: 18 New
    +8
    and how terrible it sounds, those who consider themselves to be a journalistic community ...

    Why terrible, this is natural. In pursuit of sensations, the opportunity to earn money and working for the same “opposition”, the so-called "Journalists" have repeatedly confirmed that they have not gone far from the representatives of the "oldest profession."
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 17 October 2017 07: 38 New
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      how did the Academics ensure secrecy and to what extent?
      World experience is not our decree?
      can the United States or is it also leaky in them?
    2. The comment was deleted.
      1. jjj
        jjj 17 October 2017 11: 19 New
        +1
        Friends! PMCs are commercial entities. There, the fighters get the money. So, until the cash receipt statements or bank statements on the transfer of non-cash funds are published, all information about citizens who are members of PMCs is fiction
        1. 34 region
          34 region 17 October 2017 15: 25 New
          +1
          11.19. Yeah! Receive! While alive! Is 150 thousand rubles a month a lot or a little? But there are enough willing. Do they have combat experience? According to a fighter of PMC Wagner, not at all. But there is a desire to cut the dough. Those two dead also went for the dough. Well, the family will receive three million rubles for the death. So what? Suicide for money? And according to the same PMC fighter, recent losses are considerable. Cause? Recruiters are recruiting an unprepared contingent (with absolutely no training). The main thing to dial. Apparently they have good buns with this. Or is it fiction? Well, about Strelkov they also said that he was Girkin. Rumors were confirmed. hi
  3. kuz363
    kuz363 17 October 2017 07: 51 New
    +3
    Yes, the Russians themselves are selling information who has access! So in the Chechen wars
  4. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 17 October 2017 08: 06 New
    +3
    Quote: kuz363
    Yes, the Russians themselves are selling information who has access! So in the Chechen wars

    These are the actions of the CIA. Panic, enemies around and traitors around. Special services in Langley, the so-called "librarians" have the most powerful technical capabilities in the world. And the myth of Russian hackers is nothing more than a screen. Or you did not know ? Naturally, all these lists of their hands are doing. Well, I think our intelligence is also on the alert. But haven’t I heard anything about the killed Americans and Israelis? And if they say that they are not there, I laugh. hides losses?
    1. novel66
      novel66 17 October 2017 09: 51 New
      +3
      of course. hides - after all, as if they are not there request
    2. 34 region
      34 region 17 October 2017 15: 30 New
      +1
      08.06/XNUMX. Martira! And here I do not agree. Panic, enemies, traitors! All this was in the Chechen wars. And who traded? And who was dying? Were there any heroes? And not because of the betrayal of others they became (heroes)?
  5. CONTROL
    CONTROL 17 October 2017 08: 48 New
    +7
    From the beginning of the collapse of the USSR to the current in the country, partly spontaneously, partly organized, stable groups of people formed (we are not talking about criminal groups that pursue the goals of personal or group enrichment, or business groups ...). As a rule, these are representatives (former or current) of "power structures" - the armed forces, explosives, police / police, law enforcement agencies, security and other enterprises: retirees, people with disabilities (yes, yes!), Shortened / laid off. .for one reason or another (up to manifestations of a fundamental disagreement with the ideological principles of the "new post-Soviet state") - a certain number of other categories of people.
    This people:
    - have a good legal background (legal),
    - have good political background and motivation (as having lost significant social positions),
    - have good military training, good (even pensioners ...) physical fitness and training - and motivation to maintain it (see above),
    - do not trust political programs and do not accept practically none of the parties and political associations existing in the post-Soviet space....
    - are ready to unite in existing groups to change the existing system - in a non-political, of course, way (military coup),
    - due to the experience of many fighting experiences of local military conflicts, they are not too constrained by moral and ethical attitudes (see this forum and site ... but you thought we would forbid using foul language and everyone would start to eat weed? forget about steaks with blood and even about " buckwheat stew "? ...).
    Question: - who will unite them, and move them to action, who will set them the task and arm them? And - not at all ideologically, but quite physically - with modern weapons? ...
    ... Who will it be? ...
    ... and here "manipulations with the manipulation of manipulators of the manipulated" are not excluded ... by anyone who turns out to be more agile! Or guess the time, situation, or what other factors and circumstances ...
    1. Standard
      Standard 17 October 2017 11: 36 New
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      Quote: CONTROL
      ..Who will it be? ...

      In all these cases, it is more reliable to create something of your own.
      But surely "there is no agreement in the comrades." It is so?
    2. Doliva63
      Doliva63 17 October 2017 21: 20 New
      +4
      Yeah, I immediately remembered Kvachkov, Khabarov and others like them. Not serious. And, by the way, it is wrong to call an armed rebellion with the aim of changing (as I understand it) a socio-economic formation as a coup, which is carried out with the aim of changing power / elites, it will be right - a revolution. And the current society will not pull the revolution (in the sense it will not support), so it’s not serious.
  6. Monarchist
    Monarchist 17 October 2017 08: 54 New
    +3
    Below, Dr. Hub is interested in what is done by listing the drain? I have such an offer: leave the reporter of the “creamer” with Wagner for the night. Perhaps the reporter is “lost" somewhere that making the world is not perfect.
    It is unlikely that there will be plums after that
    1. novel66
      novel66 17 October 2017 09: 54 New
      +4
      in any case, it is necessary to do something bad with him (them?) and make it made public - so that everyone knows why. should work
      1. Standard
        Standard 17 October 2017 11: 33 New
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        Quote: novel xnumx
        make public

        It is necessary.
        So that these and such creatures have no illusions: betrayal in hostilities is treason.
    2. Standard
      Standard 17 October 2017 11: 34 New
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      Quote: Monarchist
      It is unlikely that there will be plums after that

      Plums will stop only if the full price for them is known (and not just the loot).
  7. RL
    RL 17 October 2017 10: 43 New
    +7
    With the "drain" is not so simple. As I understand it, PMCs do not officially exist in Russia and, according to the laws, do not have the right to exist. So this is clandestine mercenaries with which, the authorities do not want to have anything in common, although these PMCs use it to their advantage.
    So "multi-way" by the Officials. "Yes, I admit, there are guys from SDD and Wagner, we don’t allow them and forbid them, but we can’t deal with them ourselves, help us. Here is their data, and we are clean in the eyes of international law!"
    "It's not my fault! He himself came!" - "The Diamond Arm"
    1. Standard
      Standard 17 October 2017 11: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: RL
      PMCs in Russia do not officially exist

      Since someone pays money to PMCs, and these fighters are necessarily included in the tactical schedule from the RF Ministry of Defense, and they even began to treat them as fines. Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation to volunteers.
      1. 34 region
        34 region 17 October 2017 15: 37 New
        +1
        11.31. Norm! What are the penalties? Many contractors dream of traveling to Syria for three months to bring a half-lemon! What are these fines?
  8. Standard
    Standard 17 October 2017 11: 26 New
    +2
    There used to be a structure called counterintelligence. And there were Soviet mercenaries. And there were also creamers. And the liquidators also had an elimination algorithm. What problems? Unpunished creatures from "Fontanka" with their impunity agitate for the behavior of traitors. Do we need it?
    1. RL
      RL 17 October 2017 11: 35 New
      +3
      This means that Asanzha from WikiLeaks is considered a “creamer”!
      Without the "drains" we would all remain slaves
      1. Standard
        Standard 17 October 2017 14: 04 New
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        Quote: RL
        This means that Asanzha from WikiLeaks is considered a “creamer”!

        On the conscience of Assange at least one specific person is?
        He, like Snowden, speaks only about structures. And the compromised persons are only foreign. Not a single American. (Unlike our dirty tricks of the bastards),
      2. Standard
        Standard 17 October 2017 14: 07 New
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        Quote: RL
        Without the "drains" we would all remain slaves

        Well, not all. Basically, slaves. So it does not depend on the creamers, but only on the character.
      3. Oleg RK
        Oleg RK 17 October 2017 19: 39 New
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        Sorry dear, I'm almost 50t. And a slave, that under the USSR, that now I don’t feel .. The driver is an intercity, inter-populist))) is shorter than a dalnyak. Own technique
      4. Oleg RK
        Oleg RK 17 October 2017 19: 43 New
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        And secondly, Asange in the states is not waiting for a peace prize, at best a term .....
  9. Antianglosax
    Antianglosax 17 October 2017 12: 47 New
    +5
    But are there at least some areas of activity wherever the Americans would tell us? And how long will our malachol bosses endure all sorts of abuses on the country and citizens? For some reason, both Turkey and China, in response to the abduction or arrest of a citizen of their country by the Americans, IMMEDIATELY respond in a mirror manner, arresting any American who comes to hand. Only in our country these guides disgrace both the State and its citizens, for the sake of their selfish interests.
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 17 October 2017 21: 25 New
      +4
      "And for a long time our malachol bosses will endure all sorts of abuses on the country and citizens?"
      As long as it and his patience will suit us. Looks like everything suits us
  10. iouris
    iouris 17 October 2017 13: 21 New
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    There is nothing to be surprised at.
  11. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 17 October 2017 14: 54 New
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    One of such nuances is the discovery in clothes of the ISIS militant (*) that was liquidated in the province of Deir ez-Zor (*) of a list with data on the soldiers of PMC Wagner. Another similar nuance is the receipt by ISIS (*) militants of accurate data on the whereabouts of the Russian general Valery Asapov, Colonel Valery Fedyanin, on which (Russian servicemen) were targeted.
    I apologize, but the SBU transferred the data on the whereabouts of our officers to the Ishilov’s men ?! Found in social networks ?! Someone from the pro-Assad groups seemed to have handed them over ... According to the article, I still did not understand, the author is against publishing data on the death of Wagnerites? And why? Our Ministry of Defense periodically announces losses, with specific names, surnames ... or is it bad that the bombers blow it? - So they don’t hide their hostility and the Wagnerites are far away, not the only case! Something like a lot of confusion, but what exactly the author wanted to say, I still did not understand
  12. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 17 October 2017 15: 40 New
    +1
    Quote: 34 region
    08.06/XNUMX. Martira! And here I do not agree. Panic, enemies, traitors! All this was in the Chechen wars. And who traded? And who was dying? Were there any heroes? And not because of the betrayal of others they became (heroes)?

    Don’t compare your finger with pepper. When Yeltsin’s brother went to his brother. Little didn’t come to the civil war. Intelligence was used by foreign intelligence experts, plus poverty, unbelief and greed yielded results. With Putin’s coming to power, they paid off where it’s forcibly where it itself has disappeared. And now it’s sideways? I, like the authors, consider too many leaks in social networks. This is because PMCs do not have a secrecy regime like in the MTR.
  13. Piotr.Kaskov
    Piotr.Kaskov 17 October 2017 16: 39 New
    +1
    "PMC Wagner" is a myth that exists to discredit Russia, the Russian government and the President personally.
  14. vladikod
    vladikod 17 October 2017 16: 58 New
    +1
    It’s interesting, because before the KGB it was always famous for the ability to hide true information about the military ... That this skill is already lost, that in this way, it can be said through s .... tsu, can you figure out a fighter? ...
  15. Bat
    Bat 17 October 2017 20: 33 New
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    And did not try to clap these zhurnalyug?
    1. Fedya2017
      Fedya2017 17 October 2017 22: 16 New
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      Quote: Bat
      And did not try to clap these zhurnalyug?

      Today they will be slammed. And then, when they get a taste - and they get to you ... A neighbor denouncing will scribble, for example. Or at work \ service you will disturb whom, they will also scribble - where it is necessary ... But the journalists will be silent, you yourself wanted so.
  16. seacap
    seacap 17 October 2017 20: 38 New
    +1
    The once-existing SMERSH was universally recognized as the most effective service, i.e. there is experience if desired, there is no desire. What did the serf-counterrevolutionaries who seized power in 92, headed by the drunken foreman, destroyed the first decrees of the CPSU and the KGB, launched the whole camp from Langley to the Kremlin, they destroyed the system of upbringing and education, setting one goal, driving one thirst for profit into the heads of the people, making money in any way, by any means, discarding all prejudices and universal values. Therefore, any civil service, like the entire state apparatus, is considered as your personal business project, new departments, sub-departments and positions are created all for one purpose - loot, service to the country, people is considered as a hindrance or by-product, overtime. A controlled semi-colony has no right to have secrets from Uncle Sam, therefore, complete impunity and irresponsibility, therefore, NGOs of all stripes frolic throughout the whole space, and liberalists and pseudo-democrats, grant-eaters, even without hiding, decompose society from the central channels of TV and radio, therefore, our children learn the history of their country from Soros textbooks, and the story written by our enemies who hate and despise Russia. And the secret services, even with all their desire (there are still decent and responsible people, idealists everywhere) they beat us and put them out of the offices if they went up to the upper floor. They must guard and protect investments made in other countries, protect ghouls who shamelessly plunder their country and people, who do not see their future in it and despise it deeply. War places everything is in its place and reveals who is who only among those who participate in it, but others always get profit from it, who often look with disdain on their heroes, on their people and don’t put it in anything. Simply put, the main thing loot, loot is our idol, loot is our god, profit by any means, everything is for sale, everything is bought, Motherland, honor, conscience (these are generally abusive words), our god is across the ocean, there is paradise and progress of all mankind (by the way, he said ,in and a prominent figure in one of Solovyov’s programs, moreover, it seems to be Russian according to his passport), the result of 25 years of educating our society, or rather destruction.
  17. Fedya2017
    Fedya2017 17 October 2017 22: 08 New
    +1
    If there are no Russian PMCs, then there is no talk ... If they are, then we need a law to legalize them. Then it will be clear whose bodies are brought. The authorities themselves are too clever with this question, now they are looking for the extreme ones among journalists. The journalist has a job to look for and tell readers ... Over 70 years, they wrote only about high yields and overfulfilled five-year plans, and even as in Afghanistan troops built roads. Want it again, secret classifiers ??! So tell me right away that they agree to be plasticine ... But where and how your relatives and friends die, you should not know ... Why plasticine brains? It’s for another, in order to mold whatever he wants out of it, all sorts of sculptors are not clear how they ended up in high offices ...
  18. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 18 October 2017 05: 39 New
    +1
    "Fontanka.ru" is an old "verified" bunch of St. Petersburg "Yabloko" -serpentarios of liberoids of all stripes, a favorite reading of the whole kitchen of the St. Petersburg "intelligentsia" ... Oh, how much you have to hear when dealing with Petersburg "intellectuals"; "and Tue at Fontanka.ru ..... did you read at Fontanka.ru? .... and so on." ....
  19. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 10 February 2018 02: 26 New
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    Quote: Monster_Fat
    serpentarium of liberoids

    accurately noticed.
    Pay back to these curious rat-rats with the same coin: passport scans, addresses, data from real estate registries, etc. to share.