Military Review

The Ministry of Finance has limited the indexation of the monetary allowance of military personnel

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According to the draft law “On the federal budget for 2018 year and for the planned period of 2019 and 2020”, the monetary allowance for the military and equivalent security officials plan to be annually indexed for 4% - according to the forecast inflation, Military.RF with reference to RBC.




The same indexation expects salaries of public sector employees, federal civil servants and parliamentarians.

Meanwhile, the Defense Committee of the State Duma noted that the indexation of the money allowances of military personnel has not been carried out since 2013. The conclusion of parliamentarians on the draft budget states that during this time, “the general price level in the country has risen by 46%, the cost of the minimum set of food products has increased by almost 60%”.

During the preparation of the draft law, the Ministry of Defense prepared two of its options for calculating the indexation of money allowances, according to which the salaries of servicemen would remain “not lower than the average wages in the leading sectors of the economy”. However, these proposals were not reflected in the final draft of the document.

The committee of the State Duma believes that "given the importance of the tasks performed by the military, you need to look for opportunities to redistribute money in the budget" to index their allowances. It is noted that this can be done by the second reading of the bill in the Duma.

Recall that in 2014, Deputy Defense Minister Tatyana Shevtsova in a public speech mentioned that the average cash allowance for military personnel at that time was 10% higher than the average salary in oil and gas production and was 62 thousand rubles a month.
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  1. Warnoob
    Warnoob 13 October 2017 13: 19
    11
    No money, but you hold. How is the statute prescribed? "To endure all the hardships and difficulties of military service?"
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 13 October 2017 13: 27
      11
      Quote: WarNoob
      No money, but you hold.

      And then you yourself hold on?
      Quote: WarNoob
      How is the statute prescribed? "To endure all the hardships and difficulties of military service?"

      I didn’t serve, but I condemn. Brilliant. good
      1. cniza
        cniza 13 October 2017 13: 42
        +9
        Greetings Vladimir! hi while the accountant will determine what and where to finance and develop, there will be no sense. The accountant must strictly observe and monitor what everyone in his field has approved.
        1. verner1967
          verner1967 13 October 2017 14: 07
          +5
          Quote: cniza
          while the accountant will determine what and where to finance and develop, there will be no sense

          Since the Ministry of Finance is more likely an economist than an accountant, he determines whom and how much, taking into account the wishes of the government, by the way, he is also in the government. I myself am for big indexing, you just didn’t formulate correctly
          1. maxim947
            maxim947 13 October 2017 15: 38
            +8
            How is the statute prescribed? "To endure all the hardships and difficulties of military service?"[i] [/ i]
            All hardships and hardshipsstudent pancake.
        2. BecmepH
          BecmepH 13 October 2017 14: 20
          +4
          Quote: cniza
          Greetings Vladimir! hi while the accountant will determine what and where to finance and develop, there will be no sense. The accountant must strictly observe and monitor what everyone in his field has approved.

          In the mid-90s, when my son was 3 years old, he underwent surgery. My wife and son were in a nearby town. They practically didn’t feed at the hospital, and I went to the messenger every day and fed my wife and son. You know, in those days we didn’t get any money. I wrote a report in the name of the division commander to receive the mat. assistance that has not been seen for three years (remember this?).
          So, the commander signed and I went to the cashier. So “dates, horseradish gave me money. A corporal sat at the checkout. So she went up to the divisional commander with me and said literally the following:“ Why do you believe them, they’ll come up with whatever they want for money. ”So I didn’t get any hard-earned money. Then I went into the accounting department and said; “I wish you did not have to beg for your well-deserved money to treat your child.” You should have seen how these Valkyries attacked me. And you say, “The accountant must strictly ...” accountants can "steer" divisions
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 13 October 2017 17: 45
            +4
            Quote: BecmepH
            Our accountants can "steer" divisions

            What, accountant? ... by divisions .... Khe!
            We have a tax official Taburetkin taxied by the Ministry of Defense !!! That's it - YES !!!!
            And you: * accountant, * accountant ....
            (Wunderland, edrite, and more!) laughing
            1. verner1967
              verner1967 13 October 2017 17: 58
              +1
              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              We have a tax official Taburetkin taxied by the Ministry of Defense !!!

              but he raised pensions))
              1. Boa kaa
                Boa kaa 13 October 2017 18: 07
                +6
                Quote: verner1967
                but he raised pensions))
                The Minister of Defense does not have such authority! And stop writing. I'm tired of hearing about the white fluffy animal Tolik!
                The President and the Government of the Russian Federation raised pensions so that the offended servicemen didn’t stop something off ... They raised it by reducing the number of aircraft and the funds released from it to support the troops ... But the payment of the full face value was delayed by 15 years! Jesuits from the Ministry of Finance! Many did not receive the pension due to them by law ... And with indexing - the same crap!
                So, "there is no money, but you hold on!" (with)
            2. Artyushka Telepathy
              Artyushka Telepathy 13 October 2017 18: 19
              +2
              Yes, we have only the army who does not steal the Chekists Taburetkin right now, the builder and protector of free Russia))) who just did not try)))
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        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 13 October 2017 14: 11
          +1
          Quote: WarNoob
          . And this is not to mention my five friends, conscripts, who were sent to the Donbass in the 15th, where they died.

          Cyborgs hold WCT. laughing
          1. Warnoob
            Warnoob 13 October 2017 14: 12
            +1
            Quote: Gray Brother
            Cyborgs hold WCT

            By the way, exactly there.
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 13 October 2017 14: 14
              +3
              Quote: WarNoob
              By the way, exactly there.

              Bandera is not a pity.
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                1. Gray brother
                  Gray brother 13 October 2017 14: 23
                  +5
                  Quote: WarNoob
                  For the DNI and now Bandera howl? Rather, separs.

                  It’s easy to identify the “daughter of an officer” - your hat doesn’t channel here.
        2. vovanpain
          vovanpain 13 October 2017 14: 19
          +7
          Quote: WarNoob
          who were sent to the Donbass in the 15th, where they died.

          From Ukraine. And nobody called you to the Donbass.
          Quote: WarNoob
          I had enough stories from my brothers and friends.

          When you serve, then you will write masterpieces and think with your own head, and not brothers and friends.
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            1. vovanpain
              vovanpain 13 October 2017 14: 25
              +7
              Quote: WarNoob
              There is no need for a head to understand that this is a complete P. But apparently, it was not given to some. According to your comments, this is obvious

              Yeah, where am I to you laughing I graduated from high school a long time ago, back in the Soviet Union, but my friend wouldn’t hurt to start thinking with your own head or dad didn’t buy a new iPhone, that’s the trouble. laughing
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                1. vovanpain
                  vovanpain 13 October 2017 14: 34
                  +8
                  Quote: WarNoob
                  You completely gone

                  no need to be rude, dear man, you are not rude.
                  Quote: WarNoob
                  Rather, Separs

                  Who is the Separ? negative
                  Quote: WarNoob
                  who were sent to the Donbass in the 15th, where they died

                  Who sent? When? To whom? Facts in the studio please, Are you especially interested in whom in the brigade they got into the WCT? We don’t accept links to friends and brothers, we are nice people on a serious resource, here either serving or serving, facts to the studio please. negative
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                    1. Gray brother
                      Gray brother 13 October 2017 15: 23
                      +4
                      Rude is not necessary. You are not in the stable at home.
                      It’s better to think about how you can earn 35 years of work experience on a white salary, so that instead of retirement you will not receive a pig genital organ.
                    2. vovanpain
                      vovanpain 13 October 2017 15: 47
                      +8
                      Quote: WarNoob
                      Rudeness is the best you deserve.

                      Bravo good good good To one and a half to lower your IP? And the dill hiding in our territory? laughing
                      Quote: WarNoob
                      Lugandons, who else?

                      Why does the priest hurt? And you dill her dill. good
                      Quote: WarNoob
                      You are no one to me and there is no way to call you. I fuck you believe me or not.

                      Well, from a homeless person I did not expect another. laughing Yes, and to the same hollow. wink Pokeda trollik, SUGS and 22 jumps. laughing
                    3. Corporal Valera
                      Corporal Valera 13 October 2017 15: 55
                      +3
                      Quote: WarNoob
                      There is also a saying that you don’t need to be a cook to understand that the dish is guano.

                      Something you got out early. You should be closer to March 8th. We congratulate you from the men's team.
      3. Skif83
        Skif83 14 October 2017 09: 26
        0
        Yes, they hold on, do not they hold on?
        Do they not care ... for the people and the army ?!
        I especially liked this:
        the average level of monetary allowance of military personnel at that time was 10% higher than the average earnings in the field of oil and gas production and amounted to 62 thousand rubles a month

        Considered as always? They took a den. Contentment (DD) of the Minister and den. contentment conscript, arithmetic average brought 62 thousand!? When will these "bookkeepers" be withdrawn, like cockroaches, finally? Send them to the Crimea, where they howl from the "generous" den. allowances everything from conscripts to senior officers.
        On the other hand, to tell tales of high salaries of officers and contractors, despite the fact that
        "the general price level in the country rose by 46%, the cost of a minimum set of food products increased by almost 60%"
        at least cynicism, at most - wrecking.
        Want to feed the army amerov and NATO?
        Do not index DD since 2013, motivating an already high RFP? But in
        in the field of oil and gas production
        too, everyone is ready to defend their homeland and die for it, like our comrades in Syria?
    2. St Petrov
      St Petrov 13 October 2017 13: 41
      +2
      No money, but you hold. How is the statute prescribed? "To endure all the hardships and difficulties of military service?"


      very cool point. you’re probably looking at the general

      tell us about the contentment of servicemen in the army of the Russian Federation, I also want to feel the irony


      1. Titsen
        Titsen 13 October 2017 13: 44
        +2
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        very cool point. you’re probably looking at the general


        While only pulls on foreman.

        Forumorator!
    3. maiman61
      maiman61 13 October 2017 13: 44
      +4
      Reminds 1917. We saved on payments to soldiers and officers, only patriotism cannot be spread for bread! In 1917 there were more than 10 officers in Moscow alone. But no one came out to defend the king the priest!
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 13 October 2017 14: 23
        0
        I rarely agree with you, but here is the "+".
    4. vladimirvn
      vladimirvn 13 October 2017 13: 55
      +2
      Usually behind this phrase, negligent commanders hid their laziness, incompetence and theft.
      Quote: WarNoob
      Persistently endure all hardships and difficulties of army service
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      2. BecmepH
        BecmepH 13 October 2017 14: 26
        +4
        He tolerated, endured and could not stand it. Do not consider it a bore, but the word "scratches" my ear too much put up with... "To endure steadfastly ...", as it is more habitual and more correct ...
        1. lis-ik
          lis-ik 13 October 2017 15: 19
          +4
          Quote: BecmepH
          He tolerated, endured and could not stand it. Do not consider it a bore, but the word "scratches" my ear too much put up with... "To endure steadfastly ...", as it is more habitual and more correct ...

          And it did not serve. accordingly, I did not read or pronounce the oath, so that not only your ear would be scratched.
      3. Gray brother
        Gray brother 13 October 2017 14: 27
        +3
        Quote: vladimirvn
        Usually behind this phrase, negligent commanders hid their laziness, incompetence and theft.

        Usually this phrase is pronounced when the oath is given. You didn’t know, right? laughing
        1. vladimirvn
          vladimirvn 14 October 2017 11: 21
          0
          I know that only on this phrase, so many cottages and summer cottages were built ... And about the oath, do not tell me. I have given 30 years to the cause of defending the homeland. Yes, not in the office, but mainly in hot spots. hi
    5. Overlock
      Overlock 13 October 2017 14: 49
      0
      Army is a cast of society. The country tightened their belts. As Teddy Bear said: not satisfied with the salary, go to business. Party plans - plans of the people. The people and the army are one.
      I know one lieutenant general — he retired at 500. So I think, he’s lying a bastard or not
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 13 October 2017 17: 57
        +6
        Quote: Overlock
        I know one lieutenant general - retired at 500 000.

        Et you got excited! They attributed the extra toe ... 50t they have a pension ... plus 15t dripping for being in the "hot reserve" from the military enlistment office ....
        So, "don’t be fooling around - not in the church, don’t be deceived!" (with). yes
        1. Overlock
          Overlock 13 October 2017 22: 27
          0
          thank God, because you already envied him
    6. Dedall
      Dedall 13 October 2017 22: 31
      +1
      Quote: WarNoob
      No money, but you hold. How is the statute prescribed? "To endure all the hardships and difficulties of military service?"

      Sorry, but this was in the oath of Soviet times. Now there are four lines left from this document exciting the soul. And what strengthened discipline in the troops - the Disciplinary Statute, in terms of incentives and penalties has been cut three times. The commander has nothing to punish and encourage a subordinate. As for the problems with the monetary allowance of a military man, this is a trademark of GDP. Under him, after his accession to the throne, the allowance did not increase for 8 years. Then they threw something on the new president a little and again remained silent until 2011, when 6 thousand rubles were received by the contract soldier-ordinary. it was funny to watch. And now it’s also funny to look at his 19 thousand rubles. Even for a deep province, this is ridiculous money, not to mention Moscow.
  2. SERGE ANT
    SERGE ANT 13 October 2017 13: 19
    +7
    Yes, and rightly and completely, the warriors and cops swam in fat. I understand if you’re in the Donbass or Syria, but if you transfer pieces of paper from place to place ... am
    1. sir_obs
      sir_obs 13 October 2017 13: 28
      10
      Just look, that constantly there are tattoos going on, and mostly they swam with fat. E, who in. Epl and comfort on the couch is fighting.
    2. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 13 October 2017 13: 31
      +6
      Quote: SERGE ant
      .I understand if you are in the Donbass or in Syria, but if at the headquarters you are shifting pieces of paper from place to place ..


      1. Okay, Syria, and why did Donbass get dragged (provoke) ?!
      2. Do all of our armed forces consist exclusively of headquarters, if you believe your comment?
    3. Kunica
      Kunica 13 October 2017 13: 33
      +5
      And if you watch for days in the Pes or on the tower of convicts, where is it? We will refer to the Donbass, or to the staff papers?
      1. SERGE ANT
        SERGE ANT 13 October 2017 13: 36
        +5
        Do not confuse the warm with the soft — you perfectly understood what I’m talking about ... I’m not about honest employees, silently pulling a service strap, but about snickering werewolves of all kinds, but about warriors, at the headquarters and the pigsty, who "served" all their lives ...
        1. Kunica
          Kunica 13 October 2017 13: 45
          +2
          If I understood, I would not ask. Everyone is always indexed by one coefficient. As they say, who studied what. Someone will get 1000 and some will get 10000. And it will always be like this until the revolution breaks out. Justice comes through blood.
        2. Titsen
          Titsen 13 October 2017 13: 48
          +7
          Quote: SERGE ant
          . I'm not talking about honest employees, silently pulling a service strap, but about snickering werewolves of all sorts of different ones, but about warriors, at the headquarters and the pigsty, who "served" their whole lives ...


          Have you been to the pigsty?

          As you dig, so you sink!

          Have you heard such a saying?
        3. vovanpain
          vovanpain 13 October 2017 13: 55
          +9
          Quote: SERGE ant
          at the headquarters and the pigsty the whole "serving" ...

          And what do you know about the staff work of a colleague? Without a well-planned staff work
          Quote: SERGE ant
          , with guns stood two years

          you wouldn’t have shells and so on in all headquarters starting from the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces and ending with the battalion level. hi
    4. kot28.ru
      kot28.ru 13 October 2017 13: 38
      +3
      So SERGE ant, apparently, served by shifting pieces of paper, which he is proud of, thinking that everyone else also serves as clerks at the headquarters!
      1. SERGE ANT
        SERGE ANT 13 October 2017 13: 41
        +5
        hi SERGE ant, apparently, with the guns stood for two years, if you do not know for me, then do not say anything then ... wink
        1. kot28.ru
          kot28.ru 13 October 2017 13: 51
          +5
          Shitty, apparently, stood
          If such an opinion about the army
          However, I also saw some who told stories about weekly raids in the taiga with a knife and a box of matches
          I saw many
          Different
          Over 13 years
          And I’ll see enough hi
          But a couple of eccentrics should not be judged by all
          Do not take close, indeed, I do not know you, but without knowing people, do not judge them
    5. BecmepH
      BecmepH 13 October 2017 14: 30
      +5
      Quote: SERGE ANT
      Yes, and rightly and completely, the warriors and cops swam in fat. I understand if you’re in the Donbass or Syria, but if you transfer pieces of paper from place to place ... am

      I just laugh at such "experts." It’s like bazaar women, they sit on the mound, peel their eyes, peel the seeds and do not spit husks (a beard hangs through the lip). But everyone knows everything and is "carried in the corners" (C)
  3. tank64rus
    tank64rus 13 October 2017 13: 21
    +7
    There is nothing to comment on. Liberals are doing everything to quarrel the army with the Supreme.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 13 October 2017 13: 31
      +8
      liberals do everything to quarrel the army with the Supreme.
      what are you talking about?



      And I’ll add right away, recently the thought increased its salary
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 13 October 2017 13: 43
        +9
        have you shown now the one who ordered the military to increase salaries by more than two times and pensions by half, and the one who ordered the armament process to start and removed the minister from office because he said there was no money for it?

        this is ridiculous) you have to write - thanks to Putin, the military is now living well and will be right and not fooled. But this irony is not a topic at all. You either did not see how the military lived before Putin, or xs)

        your moans can be understood about civil pensions, but when you drown against the government in topics about providing the armed forces - I get the feeling that you are either not very old - or you did not see what happened before in the army (Russian)

        In general, opposition must also be wisely - and when in each topic and not the topic - it’s not very

        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 13 October 2017 14: 58
          +3
          dismissed the minister for saying that there is no money for this?
          Who will remove it, he is Medvedev. And if you meant the other, it’s their internal showdown, they just showed him that there are more abrupt people in the country than any ministers and governors, and then he still lives well on Russian helicopters.
          how the military lived before Putin,
          Enough tales about the 90s. There was a hostel and people lived in it together, of course everything happened. But Misha the bulldozer came demolished the hostel, Then came the Borya excavator dug a pit. And finally, Putin came home builder for the oligarchs, and all who lived before in the hostel did not fit.
          moans may pro civil pensions
          If only pensions, recently the great Crimean adjunct, said that they should be tied up with free medicine, they are going to take taxes for cats and dogs a little more and begin to rain
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 13 October 2017 14: 59
            +1
            clear understand)
  4. kot28.ru
    kot28.ru 13 October 2017 13: 41
    +5
    Do ministers of the Ministry of Finance index themselves to their beloved and other ministers and their deputies and deputies by 4 percent?
    1. BecmepH
      BecmepH 13 October 2017 14: 33
      +5
      Quote: kot28.ru
      Do ministers of the Ministry of Finance index themselves to their beloved and other ministers and their deputies and deputies by 4 percent?

      I wonder how much my pensions (14 500 rubles) will fit into their 4%?
  5. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 13 October 2017 13: 44
    +7
    After they raised their money, they stopped evading service in the Armed Forces, and now they even choose who will serve the Motherland. We don’t need to stop this process, in our difficult time, although it is not always simple with us.
  6. Owl
    Owl 13 October 2017 14: 01
    0
    Traitors ...
    1. BecmepH
      BecmepH 13 October 2017 14: 36
      +1
      Quote: Eagle Owl
      Traitors ...

      And the Shamans. But the combat officer ... was (((That's who betrayed the army for real. Although his voice wouldn’t decide anything, but could he vote “For”? He voted “Against.” Did he decide to curry favor or not?
  7. trophy
    trophy 13 October 2017 14: 28
    +2
    Thanks for that. If they weren’t an election, they wouldn’t see it. But do not experience unnecessary illusions, the elections will be held and the tried-and-tested option with the suspension of this handout is not ruled out. But the pension for 25 service is guaranteed after the election is pushed back. And judging by the size of the current handout without the promised increase in the allowance for length of service and the payment of 50% of a well-deserved pension. To promise does not mean to marry, for my 25 calendars this technique performed by our state I have experienced more than once on myself.
  8. Alexander War
    Alexander War 13 October 2017 14: 39
    +4
    It’s clear who is squeezing funding for the Ministry of Defense
    1. Young_Communist
      Young_Communist 13 October 2017 15: 30
      +1

      Russia De facto Managed by Western Elite

      Why, then, did the Western elite return Crimea and assist Assad?
      1. Alexander War
        Alexander War 13 October 2017 15: 38
        +4
        Putin returned the Crimea, and the Western elite did not recognize it, like the sixes, in our Government and the State Bank, the same gref
        1. Young_Communist
          Young_Communist 13 October 2017 15: 59
          +2
          Quote: Alexander War
          Putin returned the Crimea, and the Western elite did not recognize it, like the sixes, in our Government and the State Bank, the same gref

          Something this reminds me a lot of liberal idle talk about "Victory Despite" bloody Stalin.
  9. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 13 October 2017 15: 36
    0
    monetary allowance of the military and siloviks equated to them are planned to be indexed annually by 4%

  10. Evil 55
    Evil 55 13 October 2017 17: 19
    +1
    Maybe it’s enough to endure “Stool restraints” already for people who daily risk their lives and defend the interests of their Homeland in various parts and fragments of the World ..
  11. fizteh
    fizteh 13 October 2017 19: 47
    0
    I don’t know. what to say! Well, for example, the Rosguard! They protect us, in recent years, these women got apartments, all in good cars. with big asses, manicure, pedicure and indignation that suddenly cause "fight". In the city of such grandmothers, except for a shitty enterprise, there is no way to make money. Well, if they raise at least 40%, then they don’t need to work in industry at all. Any ensign for more than 40 mowers per month carries his ass to the service! Marvel at the unfortunate !!!!
  12. faterdom
    faterdom 13 October 2017 20: 45
    0
    Here, besides this indexation for pensioners, a separate decree establishes a percentage of the earned pension (now 72 with a tail). This is no less interesting than indexing. And then an interesting movie comes out: under the Law on Military Pension, you are entitled to such an amount, but by decree - 72%! And they started at all with 54% in 2013.
    1. Dedall
      Dedall 13 October 2017 23: 39
      +3
      Well, you have chosen a pseudo! Probably as opposed to femdom. Or how?
      But seriously, we live in a state that has won the organized crime group and this system does not need extra mouths. And just as gentlemen of the mafiosi are accustomed to evading taxes at the expense of “gray salaries”, which are taxed at a minimum, we are offered. But only on the contrary, the accrual of all social payments comes from the "gray salary". Here I am, for example, when I served, I received only 8000 for the title and position, and 17000 came to my hands (on the card). And the pension is calculated from the amount of monetary allowance. So the annual help in the army is also calculated not from the entire salary, but from DD.
      A similar situation in the civilian sphere. Here the head of our organized criminal group also offers to pay up to the normal amount at the expense of the territorial budget. That is, with a doctor’s salary throughout the country of 7620 rubles, it is suggested that everyone pay up to 27000 average for the region. But only a couple of cities can afford this in our country. But still, the head of the administration every time manages to cheerfully report on the implementation of this absurd decree. And our GDP shakes its head in approval.
      1. faterdom
        faterdom 14 October 2017 00: 23
        +2
        Not a "pseudo", but a nickname. It is not accidental, but I won’t explain how interested in your origin.
        Pension is calculated from salary + title and length of service (there are still some nuances in medicine, WBD, etc.)
        So these are two different troubles: when we made major reductions in the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, one of the blah blah blahs as a justification was: but there would remain the most efficient professionals with very decent pay, which would be indexed annually by the amount of official inflation. Threw. And they are silent, as ... they typed in their mouths.
        But the pensioners were slammed then: we count according to the Law, then we cut the resulting up to 54% - and it’s on hand! Why is 54 - still surprised, because they could have announced 36,6 with the same ease?
        They must add 2% per year, add ahead of schedule, which, however, it is also unknown who calculates and how and is included annually in the Decree.
  13. Vitael
    Vitael 14 October 2017 22: 51
    0
    The threat of NATO, the Ukrainian CREEP, all this hype with sanctions, it's all a flood, an empty chatter, a big "DESA" to divert people's attention away from the true reason. Substitution of concepts translates the discussion into the direction necessary for overseas hosts. https://newsland.com/user/4297805913/content/kriz
    is-tolko-vperedi / 4674727 # / comment-72044651

    Against the background of "confrontation between respectable Russia in the person of Putin and the US World aggressor, in the person of Obama," under the guise of "openness from some kind of isolation," there is privatization - SALE of Russia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRsZ0V6uvM0

    Information: Privatization - CAPTURE OF LAND TERRITORIES, NATURAL RICHES, ENERGY RESOURCES OF THE COUNTRY, as well as ORGANIZATION, EXTINCTION OF POPULATION WITHOUT BLOOD SURROUNDING AND DESTRUCTION OF COMMUNICATIONS http://newsland.com/news/1112243tail

    Do not rifle, so ruble.
    Not a rocket, but a coin.
    Not tanks, so banks
    he came to ROBBER, FORCE, PLEASE.
    http://goldnike-777.blogspot.com/2012/07/blog-pos
    t.html
    http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/semigor33/35422838
    /54609/54609_900.jpg

    By the way, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DVWVhwUhMs - appointed by Putin’s decree of 07.02.07/7/9. Serdyukov was SELLING the Russian Army because it had lost its mission to PROTECT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICajXNUMXhQ-XNUMXXc
    The army, in its essence, is the DEFENDER OF THE PEOPLE, LANDS, AND ENERGY RESOURCES OF THE COUNTRY FROM DESTROYING "uninvited guests" by enslaving aggressors.

    There is nothing to protect, all the country's natural wealth and energy resources are SOLD to the same Rothschilds for candy wrappers stamped by the Fed in unlimited quantities.

    One of the American books on economics ends with a life-affirming one: “Fortunately, we can print dollars faster than Arabs and Russians pump oil.” Therefore, printing "tickets" will always be at the global level to manage those who, by misunderstanding, accept them as ordinary goods - https://newsland.com/user/4296758206/content/rost
    rud-predlozhil-vvesti-nalog-na-tuneiadstvo / 471841
    0 # / comment-73655874

    Vitael '
    If not with fire, sword and arrows, so with cores and muskets, but
    why rape, rob, kill to win someone, WORK.
    Why bust, burn, destroy guns and rockets?
    If you can turn it into DEPENDENCE with a piece of paper - a wrapper.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B25ubqFvdI4
    https://elhow.ru/images/extra_articles/0/1/145/in
    ner / 8.jpg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uid8rPJBUsU#at=25 - Питерская ОПГ, захватившая, как "польская шляхта", власть государства России,
    put the country under the hammer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac-CCtgoggg
    https://newsland.com/user/4297846467/content/poch
    ti-vse-vycherpali-bezdarno-strana-dvizhetsia-k-sv
    oemu-kontsu / 5746758

    Without a single shot, the Russian Army suffered a crushing defeat.
    Therefore, I, Vitael, officially declare that there is no country, there is no state. SALES. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8ScHxZVJgI
    And, as the lawyers say; - "If there is no body, then there is no matter."
    "Without the object of desire, there is no subject of discussion."
    https://newsland.com/user/4296647987/content/medv
    edev-rf-za-20-let-sovershila-ogromnyi-progress-v-
    razvitii / 4192085 # / comment-56293222

    Now this:
    - raw material colony of the BRICS Eurasian region,
    - corporate reservation of trans corporations,
    - feudal private gulag,
    - commercial "RABzon" behind barbed wire.
    - regional principalities, where "acts = DEBT LEGAL FORTRESS IGO =
    http://s41.radikal.ru/i093/1705/e8/a7ff35c4826d.j
    pg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxuE7e733GU&in
    dex = 2 & list = RDRyfwgAWGOxM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbcatAIluFQ - Если государство не принадлежит народу, не выражает его волю и интересы, то? это ХУНТА.

    By the way, that’s why JUNTO - puppet boards of both Russian and Ukrainian raw material reserves, destroys the formation of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy2mo1IDYx4 and piles dumb obedience.
    In the Russian raw materials reserve, education is useless https://newsland.com/community/politic/content/uc
    hitelnitsa-posmela-uchit-detei / 5229807

    Russia does not need highly qualified personnel. https://www.bfm.ru/news/361373?utm_referrer=https
    % 3A% 2F% 2Fzen.yandex.com

    The socially-private pyramid of the fascist hierarchy needs law-abiding stupid people, https://newsland.com/static/u/comment_image_from_
    text / 11032017 / 86927013-1647538.jpg
    who dutifully, with a creative smile on duty, selflessly stupidly fulfill the will of their superior. In this menagerie, everyone creeping in front of a superior, imagines himself a god in front of the underdependent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQKLP3g-EYE
    According to the constitution of the hostel of the chicken coop:
    Peck the neighbor.
    Reptile on the bottom.
    Look in the ass of the highest. http://jpegshare.net/images/df/cf/dfcf76eeb6bb430
    e0a6b48353fce638b.jpg
    http://mel.fm/novosti/3905278-nashey-vlasti-ne-nu
    zhny-obrazovannyye-lyudi-professor-vera-afanasyev
    a - o-problemakh-onlayn-obrazovan? utm_referrer = htt
    ps% 3A% 2F% 2Fzen.yandex.com
  14. Vitael
    Vitael 14 October 2017 23: 32
    0
    Vitael
    The threat of NATO, the Ukrainian CREEP, all this hype with sanctions, it's all a flood, an empty chatter, a big "DESA" to divert people's attention away from the true cause. Substitution of concepts translates the discussion into the direction necessary for overseas hosts.
    https://newsland.com/user/4297805913/content/kriz
    is-tolko-vperedi / 4674727 # / comment-72044651

    Against the background of "confrontation between respectable Russia in the person of Putin and the US World aggressor, in the person of Obama," under the guise of "openness from some kind of isolation," there is privatization - SALE of Russia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRsZ0V6uvM0

    Information: Privatization - CAPTURE OF LAND TERRITORIES, NATURAL RICHES, ENERGY RESOURCES OF THE COUNTRY, as well as ORGANIZATION, EXTINCTION OF POPULATION WITHOUT BLOOD SURROUNDING AND DESTRUCTION OF COMMUNICATIONS http://newsland.com/news/1112243tail

    Do not rifle, so ruble.
    Not a rocket, but a coin.
    Not tanks, so banks
    he came to ROBBER, FORCE, PLEASE.
    http://goldnike-777.blogspot.com/2012/07/blog-pos
    t.html
    http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/semigor33/35422838
    /54609/54609_900.jpg

    By the way, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DVWVhwUhMs - appointed by Putin’s decree of 07.02.07/7/9. Serdyukov was SELLING the Russian Army because it had lost its mission to PROTECT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICajXNUMXhQ-XNUMXXc
    The army, in its essence, is the DEFENDER OF THE PEOPLE, LANDS, AND ENERGY RESOURCES OF THE COUNTRY FROM DESTROYING "uninvited guests" by enslaving aggressors.

    There is nothing to protect, all the country's natural wealth and energy resources are SOLD to the same Rothschilds for candy wrappers stamped by the Fed in unlimited quantities.

    One of the American books on economics ends with a life-affirming one: “Fortunately, we can print dollars faster than Arabs and Russians pump oil.” Therefore, printing "tickets" will always be at the global level to manage those who, by misunderstanding, accept them as ordinary goods - https://newsland.com/user/4296758206/content/rost
    rud-predlozhil-vvesti-nalog-na-tuneiadstvo / 471841
    0 # / comment-73655874

    Vitael '
    If not with fire, sword and arrows, so with cores and muskets, but
    why rape, rob, kill to win someone, WORK.
    Why bust, burn, destroy guns and rockets?
    If you can turn it into DEPENDENCE with a piece of paper - a wrapper.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B25ubqFvdI4
    https://elhow.ru/images/extra_articles/0/1/145/in
    ner / 8.jpg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uid8rPJBUsU#at=25 - Питерская ОПГ, захватившая, как "польская шляхта", власть государства России,
    put the country under the hammer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac-CCtgoggg
    https://newsland.com/user/4297846467/content/poch
    ti-vse-vycherpali-bezdarno-strana-dvizhetsia-k-sv

    oemu-kontsu / 5746758

    Without a single shot, the Russian Army suffered a crushing defeat.
    Therefore, I, Vitael, officially declare that there is no country, there is no state. SALES. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8ScHxZVJgI
    And, as the lawyers say; - "If there is no body, then there is no matter."
    "Without the object of desire, there is no subject of discussion."
    https://newsland.com/user/4296647987/content/medv
    edev-rf-za-20-let-sovershila-ogromnyi-progress-v-

    razvitii / 4192085 # / comment-56293222

    Now this:
    - raw material colony of the BRICS Eurasian region,
    - corporate reservation of trans corporations,
    - feudal private gulag,
    - commercial "RABzon" behind barbed wire.
    - regional principalities, where "acts = DEBT LEGAL FORTRESS IGO =
    http://s41.radikal.ru/i093/1705/e8/a7ff35c4826d.j
    pg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxuE7e733GU&in

    dex = 2 & list = RDRyfwgAWGOxM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbcatAIluFQ - Если государство не принадлежит народу, не выражает его волю и интересы, то? это ХУНТА.

    By the way, that’s why JUNTO - puppet boards of both Russian and Ukrainian raw material reserves, destroys the formation of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy2mo1IDYx4 and piles dumb obedience.
    In the Russian raw materials reserve, education is useless https://newsland.com/community/politic/content/uc
    hitelnitsa-posmela-uchit-detei / 5229807

    Russia does not need highly qualified personnel. https://www.bfm.ru/news/361373?utm_referrer=https
    % 3A% 2F% 2Fzen.yandex.com

    The socially-private pyramid of the fascist hierarchy needs law-abiding stupid people, https://newsland.com/static/u/comment_image_from_
    text / 11032017 / 86927013-1647538.jpg
    who dutifully, with a creative smile on duty, selflessly stupidly fulfill the will of their superior. In this menagerie, everyone creeping in front of a superior, imagines himself a god in front of the underdependent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQKLP3g-EYE
    According to the constitution of the hostel of the chicken coop:
    Peck the neighbor.
    Reptile on the bottom.
    Look in the ass of the highest. http://jpegshare.net/images/df/cf/dfcf76eeb6bb430
    e0a6b48353fce638b.jpg
    http://mel.fm/novosti/3905278-nashey-vlasti-ne-nu
    zhny-obrazovannyye-lyudi-professor-vera-afanasyev
    a - o-problemakh-onlayn-obrazovan? utm_referrer = htt
    ps% 3A% 2F% 2Fzen.yandex.com