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Crimea is not for sale

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A member of the Italian delegation, perhaps the future president of the assembly, made a resolution to lift the sanctions on Russia, ignoring the amendments made by Ukraine. The resolution was adopted by a majority vote. This means that as early as January, the right to vote and full participation in PACE, which was taken away in 2014, could return to Russia.

For reference: PACE is a “recommendatory” organization that is a member of the Council of Europe. It is established, as a parliament, with deputies representing the states and its largest parties, all 636 deputies (318 representatives and 318 their deputies). Countries themselves appoint parliamentarians. From Russia, 18 people are sitting in PACE - deputies of United Russia, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia and Fair Russia.

The main claim to the Russian delegation in 2014 was the annexation of the Crimea. She was deprived of the right to speak and vote at meetings of the Assembly, to participate in the work of the governing bodies, as well as in election observation missions. In January 2015, she took part in the PACE session for the last time, but left her immediately after the deputies decided to extend the sanctions.

At the same time, for the first time, the head of the Russian delegation, State Duma Speaker Sergei Naryshkin, announced the possibility of Russia leaving the Council of Europe, whose structure is PACE, and stopping the payment of a contribution, the amount of which is approximately 32 million euros. As a result, in 2016, the fee was paid, but in the middle of 2017, transfers ceased. “The Council of Europe is losing a“ very large amount ”because of Russia's decision to suspend payments to a part of the organization’s budget for 2017 a year,” said PACE rapporteur for the Bureau, Ian Liddel Granger.

In fact, until decisive actions to stop financing the PACE, the deputies did not react at all to Russian intentions.
Crimea is not for sale


And only after the cuts made the budget cut,


after some two days, the deputies looked at the Russian question differently.


It is worth noting that over the course of three years the reasoning about whether Russia needs to participate in the Assembly’s meetings in general has not ended, because it does not give actual results. And this is true, the recommendatory nature of the assembly is not something without which the foreign policy of the state would be implemented with obstacles. However, PACE is part of the Council of Europe, an influential international body of 47 states. And all this is not at all necessary, but it is better to be friends with influential people than to be in a quarrel. Then questions, for example, laying gas pipelines will be solved faster and more fervently. But, I repeat, the very fact of participation in PACE meetings is purely an amateur matter.

There is another point - the ECHR. Matvienko said she would not recognize his decisions if the head of the court was elected without Russia's participation. But this is already a fairly fair statement: some Russian organizations and individuals like to use the services of the ECHR. And they should be greatly upset if Moscow considers judicial decisions illegitimate in the Russian Federation.

But back to the issue of Crimea. Earlier, at a speech in the same PACE, Milos Zeman, the president of the Czech Republic, suggested that Russia “buy out” the Crimea from Ukraine. Ukraine has bucked, and Poroshenko said that "no oil and gas" in exchange for the peninsula is not going to take.
And no one offers - the decision of the people for that and the decision of the people, that it is free. Only here, in PACE itself, Zeman’s idea was decided to use, and they are still ready to “sell” the Crimea together with all their arguments three years ago, the price of the issue is the notorious 32 million euro, Russia's annual contribution to the European organization. The fact is that if the measures against Russia were taken in connection with the Crimea, and now they will be removed, then the question of the peninsula will be relegated to second place.

For three years, not only the political agenda of Europe has changed, leaders and representatives of countries are changing, many of which objectively assess what happened in Crimea, the mood of Russia and the level of adequacy of Ukraine. Start of European recognition of the fact historical justice laid. And, unfortunately, for some neighbors, this will not even be paid.
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  1. andrewkor
    andrewkor 14 October 2017 06: 03 New
    +4
    Sandwiches in the buffet of the Council of Europe will lose weight by 10%, what a horror !!!
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 14 October 2017 07: 33 New
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      and termination of the payment of a contribution of approximately 32 million euros.

      But what do we have 32 lyamas of the Eureks superfluous in the treasury? It is expensive to pay those who bark at you also. negative
      1. Esoteric
        Esoteric 14 October 2017 17: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: vovanpain
        But what do we have 32 lyamas of the Eureks superfluous in the treasury? It is expensive to pay those who bark at you also.

        We have? Who will give them to you? I'm afraid they won’t even show it. Yes, we only at the beginning of 2017 external debt amounted to:
        According to the Central Bank, Russia's total external debt as of January 1, 2017 is estimated at 514,132 billion, which is slightly less than last year (519,101 billion).
        At the same time, so-called “New Russian debt” by 31% - from 28,747 to 37,921 billion dollars.
        And this is an important difference from the previous two years.
        The structure of the external debt of the Russian Federation is as follows:
        Government bodies in 2016 increased their debts (actually public debt) by 28% - from 30,551 to 39,178 billion dollars.

        And what is there, across the ocean in securities and celery still knows what ... belay
        So, thirty-two million. $ More or less will not affect the Russian budget, but it has already affected "ours" ... crying
      2. vodkinmotors1
        vodkinmotors1 18 October 2017 16: 37 New
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        You ?!...........
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 14 October 2017 08: 56 New
      +6
      Quote: andrewkor
      Sandwiches in the buffet of the Council of Europe will lose weight by 10%, what a horror !!!

      And lose weight and rise in price! That's where the Horror wassat
    3. weksha50
      weksha50 15 October 2017 12: 19 New
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      Quote: andrewkor
      Sandwiches in the buffet of the Council of Europe will lose weight by 10%, what a horror !!!


      Let the cleaning managers (cleaners) be reduced and drown in merde ... laughing
  2. 210ox
    210ox 14 October 2017 06: 06 New
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    Questions on the construction of gas pipelines will be resolved fervently .. Bullshit. For the solution of these issues lies not in the PACE area, and for the most part not in Europe at all. And then, but why pay the empty space and participate there. In this "toricell void". .
  3. samarin1969
    samarin1969 14 October 2017 06: 38 New
    +7
    The author’s fantasies about the importance of an “influential international body” were amused. ... PACE money is needed only by the political party-goers themselves from the Russian Federation ....
  4. Lganhi
    Lganhi 14 October 2017 06: 49 New
    +6
    PACE is an absolutely useless organization; it does not solve anything. State Duma deputies love to fly and hang out in the European capitals for free in the EU, which is why the Russian Federation has joined PACE.
  5. Semenov
    Semenov 14 October 2017 06: 57 New
    +4
    The session voiced the issue of granting Crimea independence, an EU or UN project projection over Crimea. No questions were raised about other territories of Russia. Interestingly, the deputies are really so stupid or they consider us to be such Papuans. Or is it such a way of adding to the salary - maybe Russian funding will resume and even increase for the right chatter.
    1. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 14 October 2017 15: 14 New
      +2
      Hi!! In this very PACE there is a highlight. It is she who selects the JUDGES in the European COURTS and other interesting structures. And we signed up to implement the decisions of such structures. And the British, when they joined this company, immediately limited their influence on London. So that. And our Democrats climb out of their skin demanding the use of conflicting and sometimes contradictory decisions to our laws. Sechas at least rested. But look
      1. vodkinmotors1
        vodkinmotors1 18 October 2017 16: 41 New
        0
        We ? This hto ?? !! ....... (answer for yourself *)
    2. weksha50
      weksha50 15 October 2017 12: 23 New
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      Quote: Semenov
      the issue of granting independence to Crimea was voiced, aboutТEU or UN Directorate over Crimea


      It’s a pity, our kings in the old days did not make protectorates from Germany, France, Italy, Austria ... Poland alone was "made happy" ...
      "Our Cossacks are coming, going across Berlin (Paris)" ... laughing good
  6. fa2998
    fa2998 14 October 2017 07: 22 New
    +5
    Quote: samarin1969
    The author’s fantasies about the importance of an “influential international body” were amused. ... PACE money is needed only by the political party-goers themselves from the Russian Federation ....

    We pay vouchers for our deputies. They are hanging out and will come (with salaries being retained on foreign vacations), like there are no cases in Russia. The deputies came up with this "body" for themselves, does not solve anything! negative hi
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 October 2017 07: 23 New
    +4
    For our money and at every meeting, they reported Russia as a schoolboy. Today, neither Russian money, nor sense in the meetings (Russia doesn’t) has started to be handed back. But we should think about returning and again becoming the subject of all PACE meetings, or still send them away.
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    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 14 October 2017 11: 23 New
      +4
      Quote: Rabinovich_007
      all Russians pay for Crimea

      And all the Israelis pay for Rabinovich. wink
    2. iouris
      iouris 14 October 2017 14: 25 New
      0
      All Russians pay for Russia and the USSR. Twice already paid, all is not enough - the United States can not stabilize.
    3. Esoteric
      Esoteric 14 October 2017 17: 57 New
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      Quote: Rabinovich_007
      all Russians pay for Crimea

      My dear man, take it higher ... we also help the USA to develop and we keep the EU ... lol
  9. XII Legion
    XII Legion 14 October 2017 09: 10 New
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    Crimea is not for sale

    Only privatized
    Resort zemlyatse
  10. thinker
    thinker 14 October 2017 09: 51 New
    +2
    In January 2015, she last participated in the PACE session .... As a result, in 2016 the contribution was paid.
    fool
    For comparison -
    The United States stopped funding UNESCO ($ 80 million a year) back in 2011, when the organization accepted the partially recognized Palestinian Authority.
  11. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 14 October 2017 09: 51 New
    +5
    It would be necessary back in 2014 to stop paying.
  12. Kenxnumx
    Kenxnumx 14 October 2017 10: 26 New
    0
    Nevertheless, to legitimize, let’s say, the transition of Crimea is necessary. Even a sincere decision of the people in the presence of foreign troops is a very bad precedent. Including for Russia.
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 14 October 2017 18: 02 New
      0
      Quote: Ken71
      Nevertheless, to legitimize, let’s say, the transition of Crimea is necessary. Even a sincere decision of the people in the presence of foreign troops is a very bad precedent. Including for Russia.

      I can offer you a way to speed up the legitimization of Crimea by some world communities, but for this you need to move the entire American embassy there ... lol
  13. ARES623
    ARES623 14 October 2017 11: 41 New
    +1
    Money is the EU’s weak spot. This must be borne in mind. On the other hand, the proposal to “sell” Crimea quite clearly shows the essence of European democracy (the question of “European values”), in which a person, citizen and his opinion do not matter. Everything is decided in the interests of the financial and oligarchic elite, and under these decisions all kinds of verbal "lace" are woven about European solidarity, multiculturalism, human rights, etc. In fact, the main beneficiary of European policy towards Russia is transnational campaigns and corporations, within which there is a confusion between European and American campaigns. Ukraine, Crimea, Syria and so on, in this case are not independent phenomena, all these are derivatives of this struggle. They came to money again ... There was no place of democracy proper. So much for the Council of Europe, and PACE with the ECHR, all these are worthless organizations. It’s time to save on them, and send this money to the Power of Siberia. Europe wants to shoot itself (cancel SP-2), let it. Our counterargument will be LNG and the pipe to the East. Although to a greater extent there should be a profitable domestic consumption of the entire gross domestic product by 80-85%, for which it is necessary to increase the purchasing power of the domestic consumer. Then all these international organizations, including the UN, can be scored in full. It may be worthwhile to include elements of a "mobilization economy" for this.
    1. Kenxnumx
      Kenxnumx 14 October 2017 14: 01 New
      0
      You better find out somewhere where any income from this SS is good for us if you should not.
      1. ARES623
        ARES623 14 October 2017 16: 22 New
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        Quote: Ken71
        You better find out somewhere where any income from this SS is good for us if you should not.

        In any case, the state will receive its income in the form of MET, VAT, additional jobs with wages, excise taxes, etc., all this is included in the cost of the service. Here the profitability for Gazprom may be different. In addition, SS is an infrastructure project that forms the basis for the development of industry in the Far East. SS is a necessary project for internal development. Many talk about the non-profitability of the Chinese contract, only no one can provide evidence to support it.
    2. Esoteric
      Esoteric 14 October 2017 18: 11 New
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      Quote: ARES623
      Money is the EU’s weak spot. This must be borne in mind.

      Are you so sure This is the euro for Russia, however, like dollars - a weak spot.
      Euro banknotes are entitled to print exclusively national central banks of countries within the eurozone in agreement with the European Central Bank. In fact, the decision on add. The issue is accepted at a meeting of the ECB Governing Council, which includes 6 members of the ECB Directorate, appointed by the European Parliament and 16 managers of national banks of countries in the eurozone.

      Where exactly the banknotes themselves are printed depends on each country. For example, Germany prints them at the Bundesdruckerei printing houses in Berlin (banknotes for the Netherlands and Greece are also printed there) and Giesecke & Devrient in Munich (banknotes for Finland, Portugal, France, Spain, the Netherlands and Greece are also printed there). France also has its own printing house - Banque de France. Such a wide range is due to the different protection requirements for banknotes of different denominations - some printing house can only produce low denomination banknotes, but in large quantities - and some can also print banknotes of the highest denomination.

      Their weak point is the hasty European integration. The EU expects the same collapse as the USSR at one time, due to imbalances in the development of economies of different countries. They would just print a second, Eurozone passport to visa-free travel through Europe and ... stop EVERYTHING!!!
      Sovereignty, it is also in Africa (in Egypt in particular) sovereignty ... lol
      1. ARES623
        ARES623 14 October 2017 23: 21 New
        0
        Quote: Esoteric
        Their weak point is the hasty European integration.

        But no, the weak spot is money, and the hasty European integration hit the weak spot, the money. So the "Europe of two speeds" was born. It remains to identify countries of the second speed in order to limit the circle of recipients. And no tricks ... The European integration itself was under pressure from the political organization of NATO, solely for the sake of tearing the countries of the former Warsaw Pact and the USSR from Russia. The United States led NATO to this at the expense of Germany, which, as a vassal, has no voice on this issue. And who is where the eurofantics prints - what's the ... difference? It's hard to say about the collapse of the eurozone. The next 10-15 years of turbulence are possible, but decay is unlikely.
  14. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 14 October 2017 19: 12 New
    +2
    That is, in any matter, everything always rests on the "grandmother". Not at all surprised.
  15. Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy 14 October 2017 22: 55 New
    +1
    Does anyone know specifically what sanctions they imposed against us? For me, so to us for them on x ...
  16. Mikhail Zubkov
    Mikhail Zubkov 15 October 2017 01: 32 New
    +2
    Quote: Esoteric
    Quote: vovanpain
    But what do we have 32 lyamas of the Eureks superfluous in the treasury? It is expensive to pay those who bark at you also.

    We have? Who will give them to you? I'm afraid they won’t even show it. Yes, we only at the beginning of 2017 external debt amounted to:
    According to the Central Bank, Russia's total external debt as of January 1, 2017 is estimated at 514,132 billion, which is slightly less than last year (519,101 billion).
    At the same time, so-called “New Russian debt” by 31% - from 28,747 to 37,921 billion dollars.
    And this is an important difference from the previous two years.
    The structure of the external debt of the Russian Federation is as follows:
    Government bodies in 2016 increased their debts (actually public debt) by 28% - from 30,551 to 39,178 billion dollars.

    And what is there, across the ocean in securities and celery still knows what ... belay
    So, thirty-two million. $ More or less will not affect the Russian budget, but it has already affected "ours" ... crying

    In one pile, the numbers are piled WITHOUT Parsing. 517 lyam is the total debt. Of it (about 10%) approx. 50 Lyamov - the debt of the state and its government agencies, approx. 20% is the debt of banks, and the remaining 70% is the credit debts of businessmen. For comparison, in China, businessmen have an external debt of more than 18 trillion. dollars. The interest paid on debts is also important. If they are small, then loans are a good thing! You take 100, you pay 2%, and you wind up 5% - 3% have a gain. The bank takes at the foreign market at 5%, gives a loan at the domestic at 10%, has a 5% fat. So external debts are tricky! You need to know the specific conditions, bare figures do not say anything.
  17. rpek32
    rpek32 15 October 2017 02: 37 New
    0
    This means that already in January the right to vote and full participation in PACE, which was withdrawn in 2014, may return to Russia.

    But what, is it badly needed? three years lived and did not fall apart
  18. weksha50
    weksha50 15 October 2017 12: 18 New
    0
    “For three years, not only the political agenda of Europe has changed, leaders and representatives of countries are changing”.

    But the essence of the mess, a double-standard brothel, remains ...
    Absolutely everything is for sale ... Even that which a normal person would never have thought ...
  19. Nemesis
    Nemesis 15 October 2017 16: 49 New
    +1
    Something the Russian Federation paid a lot to PACE, it's time to stop it
  20. vodkinmotors1
    vodkinmotors1 18 October 2017 16: 35 New
    0
    In addition to the true Shaigi courier in the Russian Armed Forces there are native warriors? (swearing screaming ne swear).


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