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Butted Kiselev with Lenin. And gored the deceased - along with his native history

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Butted Kiselev with Lenin. And gored the deceased - along with his native history



In one of the latest programs of Dmitry Kiselev, "The Results of the Week," two extremely revealing passages sounded. Here is the first: "Lenin's desire to build a society on the basis of market-free relations failed. Lenin was wrong." In the same program, Kiselyov enthusiastically described how, in distant Australia, the anniversary of the First Artificial Earth Satellite launched on October 4 on October 1957 was solemnly celebrated.

Staff propagandist has a hard job. He has to juggle and say "what is necessary" duty. At all times. For the sake of justice, we note that the Soviet propagandists also sinned with the “free interpretation of facts.” But not to the "loss of disgrace."
The connection between space exploration and Soviet power is direct as the truth. The Soviet government set the task - and completed. But Soviet power was "invented" and implemented by Lenin. There is simply nothing to talk about. It - historical fact.

To say that Sputnik has no relation to Soviet power is the same as saying that billions of Rotenberg are not related to Putin. But it's not just that.

Soviet power (which is Victory, Sputnik, First Atomic Icebreaker, Gagarin, Bratsk Hydroelectric Power Station, BAM, and KAMAZ, and thousands more things that are too heavy today) resulted from the 1917 Revolution. This is also an established fact.

Therefore, school teachers in the Soviet Union had absolutely no difficulties in the process of teaching children. They were told from year to year: "Lenin was a man of genius, who understood that scientists and engineers are the key to the progress of society in general and of socialism in particular."

That is why he said: "Communism is Soviet power plus the electrification of the whole country."

At the same time, we note that if Lenin said so about electrification, this automatically means that this was not under the tsars. To underline the already existing did not make sense.

And we also note that electrification is not at all the “light bulb of Ilyich” in each hut. This is an industry! This is education and science! This is progress!

Lenin somehow did not complain of capitalists, bourgeois and priests. Totally. And they did not consider them a pledge of progress.

But in modern Russia, teachers have added many problems.

It is impossible to teach that Lenin was a brilliant seer. It must be said that he and his associates, and his struggle, and his teaching were a historical mistake. Or the result of the conspiracy of the terrible enemies of the Russian state and its "everlasting church values".

How else to explain the revolution? Well, it's not true to talk about it, in fact!

So either Lenin is a creative genius and savior of the Fatherland, from those who are to any country once a millennium, or a secret conspirator and enemy. There is no third.

If Lenin is a creator and a genius, then everything is clear with Sputnik. He is the result of Leninism, its direct consequence. He is the "Electrification of Russia" in the general sense.

And if Lenin is an agent of world Zionism, the English Queen and the German General Staff, then nothing is clear!
How so? He is an agent, a traitor, and the country received such a push from him!

The agent and the traitor - and died at home, in fact, a beggar. And people sobbed by the millions! He was buried in the Mausoleum (which became a UNESCO World Heritage Site). Fools they were all, or what? Kiselyov not watched?

An agent and a traitor - and his name was holy to hundreds of millions of people up to the 1991 year. Songs and poems composed, books were composed, scientific works were written, and academic titles were received for them. What, everyone was an idiot? From the Politburo of the Central Committee and academic historians to the worker Vasily in the Upper Laptis?

In fact, all this is not a joke. The 17 Revolution can only be explained in two ways - honest or deceitful. As a global, unique socio-economic experiment - or as a "secret conspiracy."

To explain honestly means to hurt the "fathers", the Sechin and millers, the Rothenberg and the promissory notes, the Swanids and the Gozmans, Maru Bagdasaryan and other respected people.

Hence, it is necessary to explain otherwise. And how, if not a conspiracy - secret and secret?

And if a conspiracy, it turns out that Lenin was not a good man, vrazhina. And Stalin? He prayed for Lenin literally!

He called the mountain eagle! Cited to him in every public speech several times! Also a conspirator? And Brezhnev?

Where did the satellite come from? Spite Lenin and Stalin? Secretly in the basement collected? By the light of torch?

Let's go back to the main point.

The satellite (and not only) was a direct, logical continuation of the October Revolution. It was even launched in October on 1957, on its 40 anniversary.

The October Revolution is Lenin. And Lenin is the Soviet power. And the Soviet Power is Sputnik and much more, and we are going into the second round. And on the third, and on the fifth, and on the tenth. Because one is inseparable from the other. And there is no need to include here a "conspiracy theory", because even without it, everything is as clear as God's day.

But if you break this internal logic, everything will collapse. And to connect Sputnik and the History of Russia without a global conspiracy will not work!

Logical hole will have nothing to plug. Therefore, you should only try to reconsider the role of Lenin in history, as you immediately resist in the machinations of the Rothschilds and other reptiloids. There are no other ways to explain the obvious!

The stone falls to the ground, either in accordance with the Law of the World, or Satan did so. Everything! There are no other options.

I personally absolutely sure that Dmitry Kiselev is not an idiot. And the internal logic between the Revolution and the Satellite understands. He did not study in a Russian, but in a normal, Soviet school.

But the unfortunate Russian schoolboy does not understand. After all, he, in contrast to Dmitry Kiselev, does not teach this logic in school, they do not say that Lenin is a creative genius!

Father will punish for such speeches! And the teacher will remain without work.

So what is a schoolboy thinking?

And the schoolboy finds his explanation - it was a conspiracy! Secret! And Sputnik launched Putin. And for such speeches, Uncle Kiselyov pats him from the TV on the shoulder. At home, after work, probably drink vodka and say:

- Oh my God! How sickening to lie! Even for big money!
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 13 October 2017 06: 03
    31
    “He has to juggle and say“ what is needed ”to his duty. At all times. For the sake of justice, we note that“ To look for logic at Kiselyov, well this is how to look for her in a brothel.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 13 October 2017 06: 44
      21
      I have turned off the TV for a long time when the time comes for such programs. And probably soon I will stop watching it at all.
      1. 24rus
        24rus 13 October 2017 06: 51
        12
        Anti-Soviet propaganda will end as soon as funding ceases, and that’s all.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 13 October 2017 06: 54
          25
          Will funding end? As long as there is Russia with an independent policy and leadership, funding for all sorts of stuff will not stop! Just an anti-Soviet company is turning into an anti-Russian one.
          Quote: 24rus
          Anti-Soviet propaganda will end as soon as funding ceases, and that’s all.
          1. BecmepH
            BecmepH 13 October 2017 09: 10
            16
            210ox
            anti-Soviet company turns into anti-Russian.
            Briefly and clearly.
            1. Ulan
              Ulan 13 October 2017 13: 49
              +6
              She doesn’t even turn, she is TURNED specially!
              1. stas
                stas 14 October 2017 22: 06
                +1
                One Kiselyov in Ukraine rides a goat, our Kiselyov licks to shine, it’s indecent to watch.
                Such a profession - for good money what do you want to say?
        2. siberalt
          siberalt 13 October 2017 07: 04
          31
          Our liberoids are afraid of dead Lenin. His teachings and deeds are death for them. I really want to riches out of the mud and be gentlemen.
          1. Sergey-svs
            Sergey-svs 13 October 2017 08: 02
            39
            Quote: siberalt
            Our liberoids are afraid of dead Lenin. His teachings and deeds are death for them. I really want to riches out of the mud and be gentlemen.

            Totally agree! yes As the author wrote, all sorts of things are “priests”, Sechin and Millers, Rotenbergs and promissory notes, Svaniji and Gozman’s, Mary Baghdasaryan and other “respected” people, to be afraid and hate Lenin for his brilliant and still very relevant thoughts:
            1. Ulan
              Ulan 13 October 2017 13: 52
              15
              Have you noticed that they don’t touch Trotsky? To attack Trotsky for these gentlemen is Taboo, although he took an active part in the revolution and some historians claim that it was Trotsky who prepared the revolution, and Lenin appeared in Smolny at the last moment.
              But touch Trotsky in no way, although there is blood on him.
          2. Sotskiy
            Sotskiy 15 October 2017 22: 50
            +5
            Quote: siberalt
            Our liberoids are afraid of dead Lenin. His teachings and deeds are death for them. I really want to riches out of the mud and be gentlemen.

            Who are you talking about? It’s by chance not about our tolerant President, from whose filing, on May 9, the Lenin Mausoleum is wrapped in a plywood wrapper so that he does not suddenly wake up and lead the Victory Parade? Indeed, judging by such actions, the Soviet people won in the Second World War not the Soviet people, but the Russian people. The Russians (!) Won. That’s why we have Yeltsin in official circles a light in the "dark kingdom", and Lenin and Stalin - a bloody stain on the impeccable face of monarchist Russia. As the saying goes, feel the difference.
      2. Boris55
        Boris55 13 October 2017 08: 05
        12
        Quote: 210ox
        I have turned off the TV for a long time when the time comes for such programs ...

        But I look and not because I believe in everything they broadcast, but to know what they want, in which direction our brains want to format, otherwise how can they resist? As they say - the enemy must be known in person. Kiselev, and everyone else on different TV shows, reflect the views of certain groups. Not knowing what they breathe is an impermissible luxury.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 13 October 2017 13: 20
          16
          Quote: Boris55
          As they say - the enemy must be known in person. Kiselev, and everyone else on different TV shows, reflect the views of certain groups. Not knowing what they breathe is an impermissible luxury.

          all pro-government propagandists breathe in sea breezes in between the tele-capsone. A single herald lives in Italy, but the head of kissel-tv loves Koktebel. He built the house back in the days when Crimea was Ukrainian, and Kiselyov was friends with the future president of the country Petro Poroshenko.
          These citizens have no concept of conscience and journalistic ethics from birth. I would like to argue about which of the professions is the oldest.
          Here are such shifters
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 13 October 2017 14: 00
            +1
            Quote: Stroporez
            all pro-government propagandists breathe sea breezes

            And they breathe this breeze very very long ago. How did they begin from the 10 century?
          2. already a Muscovite
            already a Muscovite 14 October 2017 02: 06
            +2
            Maybe you shouldn’t dump your blasphemy in vain on others? Maybe just the rule: “sucker is FATE” in your case works? AND? .... I imagined apartments in Bulgaria, on the Black Sea, I was able to buy earlier than an apartment in Moscow. So what??
            If you do not have something, it means that you are not strong - then you want to ...
            1. stas
              stas 14 October 2017 22: 02
              +3
              ALREADY MOSCOW!
              You are no longer a Muscovite, you are definitely from Moscow ECHO.
              What are you speculating with.
            2. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 14 October 2017 22: 42
              +4
              Quote: already a Muscovite
              I was able to buy apartments for myself in Bulgaria, on the Black Sea, earlier than an apartment in Moscow. So what??

              And the fact that you need to buy a snot Noon and a bib laughing Well, for your complete satisfaction, buy the Eiffel Tower laughing
              1. already a Muscovite
                already a Muscovite 14 October 2017 23: 58
                +1
                Quote: Stroporez
                Well, for your complete satisfaction, buy the Eiffel Tower

                Yes, I would buy. Yes, people like you will begin to scream that it’s me who stole the folk, that is, I bought yours. Well, when you yourself cannot earn money, you start blaming everyone around. laughing
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 15 October 2017 00: 16
                  +5
                  Quote: already a Muscovite
                  Yes, I would buy.

                  Then I would write "already Paris" laughing
                  Quote: already a Muscovite
                  Yes like you

                  Well, you are still far from us yes
                  Quote: already a Muscovite
                  Well, when you yourself cannot earn money, you start blaming everyone around.

                  Here it is "hot" - it will not have time for obazazza - it’s already dry belay You always follow the notes: you earned and stole, the opposite concepts. If the hump, the mind, then one thing, but ....
            3. Alf
              Alf 14 October 2017 23: 14
              +1
              Quote: already a Muscovite
              Maybe you shouldn’t dump your blasphemy in vain on others? Maybe just the rule: “sucker is FATE” in your case works? AND? .... I imagined apartments in Bulgaria, on the Black Sea, I was able to buy earlier than an apartment in Moscow. So what??
              If you do not have something, it means that you are not strong - then you want to ...

              And can an immodest question, where, in which city and by whom do you work?
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 14 October 2017 23: 21
                +1
                he works like a poop in a circus tent, moreover, by agreement, without providing labor books laughing
                1. already a Muscovite
                  already a Muscovite 14 October 2017 23: 53
                  +1
                  And you, as I look, envy ... laughing or just Tuporez? ... Laugh laugh ... The main thing is not noah ...
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 15 October 2017 00: 02
                    +2
                    Quote: already a Muscovite
                    And you, as I look, are jealous ... Struporez laughing or just Tuporez

                    what time! belay Muscovite decided to troll wassat
                    You should get into a platoon of airborne forces, there they quickly explained to you the terminology, very popular! yes
                    Quote: already a Muscovite
                    . Laugh laugh ... The main thing is not noah ...

                    you justify your circus mission of the third plan laughing
                    1. already a Muscovite
                      already a Muscovite 15 October 2017 00: 26
                      +1
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      You should get into a platoon of airborne forces, there they quickly explained to you the terminology, very popular!

                      Oo-oo-oo-oo. A fountain warrior, a thunderstorm of bottles ... Although you were most likely a merry fellow at headquarters. Bricks are not afraid of you? smile
                      They didn’t take me to the landing. The green is healthy. Us and in GO normally fed. So don’t scare me. Brick scare. soldier
                      1. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 15 October 2017 01: 11
                        +2
                        Quote: already a Muscovite
                        Oo-oo-oo-oo. Fountain warrior, a thunderstorm of bottles

                        Shhh! Do not be afraid! We do not offend flawed wassat
                        Quote: already a Muscovite
                        Although you were most likely a merry fellow at headquarters. Bricks are not afraid of you?

                        If necessary, then a brick is not a hindrance.
                        Quote: already a Muscovite
                        They didn’t take me to the landing. The green is healthy.

                        laughing laughing laughing
                        Quote: already a Muscovite
                        Us and GO normally fed.

                        You yourself signed it, damn it, "healthy healthy" .., fu ... fu ..
                        Quote: already a Muscovite
                        So don’t scare me. Brick scare.

                        what frightened scare?)))))) laughing
                  2. Alf
                    Alf 15 October 2017 20: 36
                    +1
                    Quote: already a Muscovite
                    And you as I look envy.

                    They do not envy storytellers, they laugh at them.
                    1. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 15 October 2017 20: 43
                      +2
                      Quote: Alf
                      They do not envy storytellers, they laugh at them.

                      Greetings, dear Colleague! hi drinks
                      It’s too late to laugh at this “Bulgarian-Muscovite”, he has already lost the coast what It is thought to start RB-1, if it does not help, then RB-2 yes repeat
                      1. Alf
                        Alf 15 October 2017 20: 46
                        +1
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        Greetings, dear Colleague!

                        And you, dear hi ! Did you notice that he never answered my question about the place of work? Apparently, he has not yet come up with a fairy tale.
          3. Krabik
            Krabik 17 October 2017 04: 19
            0
            What's wrong with a house in the Crimea ?!

            It’s clear that Kiselev is a flexible propagandist, but I don’t catch something with the house in the Crimea ...
        2. Ulan
          Ulan 13 October 2017 13: 54
          +2
          I also adhere to your position. You can not fence yourself off from unpleasant things, they do not disappear from this anywhere.
        3. tezey
          tezey 13 October 2017 14: 41
          +1
          I completely agree with your opinion. Watch it. True, you noticed, the enemy must be known in person. Moreover, all these shows allow you to really understand all the strengths and weaknesses of their arguments.
      3. CONTROL
        CONTROL 13 October 2017 09: 20
        +3
        Quote: 210ox
        I have turned off the TV for a long time when the time comes for such programs. And probably soon I will stop watching it at all.

        ... and football? and hockey ?! Channel "Match. Fighter" - about martial arts! Eurosport 1 and 2 - snooker !!!
        Ah! And 2nd, NTV and other bodyagi - and rightly so, you should not look!
        1. novel66
          novel66 13 October 2017 09: 56
          +2
          and comedy club? and qw?
        2. iConst
          iConst 13 October 2017 13: 27
          +6
          Quote: CONTROL
          ... and football? and hockey ?!

          It’s not worth looking exactly ... When the composition of the St. Petersburg SKA is read out - at first it was as if the Scandinavian club was being announced ... wassat
          1. Ulan
            Ulan 13 October 2017 13: 58
            +2
            Exactly Scandinavian club funded by Gazprom.
        3. Dedall
          Dedall 15 October 2017 17: 44
          +1
          Our television will die from advertising. even our old women stop watching films and programs because of this scourge. And here it is worth remembering England. They immediately passed this moment and freed their BBC from advertising. Just ask you, do not confuse the name of this organization with the Air Force, as our glorious Serdyukov did.
      4. xetai9977
        xetai9977 13 October 2017 09: 33
        22
        The whole essence of Kiselev’s propaganda.
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 13 October 2017 12: 17
          +6
          Quote: xetai9977
          The whole essence of Kiselev’s propaganda.

          It’s not for you to enlighten us about “things”; your propagandists are better than foreign ones.
          How long has Fedhullah Gulen left you? Forgot who taught you the Turkic identity and wrote down the Turkish six?
        2. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 13 October 2017 12: 57
          +3
          Right multi billionaire Zuckenberg?
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother 13 October 2017 13: 26
            +1
            Quote: BlackMokona
            Right multi billionaire Zuckenberg?

            It is interesting that under this screen you can sign:
            lol
        3. already a Muscovite
          already a Muscovite 14 October 2017 02: 18
          +2
          maybe you better tell us about how Muslims can not live next to representatives of other faiths.
    2. AUL
      AUL 13 October 2017 14: 41
      +7
      A full-time propagandist has a hard job. He has to juggle and say "what you need" to duty. At all times.
      Here, in VO, there are more than enough such hard workers - it is worth reading comments. Especially the very first ones are the same people with the same slogans.
      I personally absolutely surethat Dmitry Kiselyov did not ....
      Author: Natalia Rumarchuk
      You have already decided, please, with your gender, the daughter of a Russian officer!
      1. igorj 51
        igorj 51 22 October 2017 12: 50
        0
        You have already decided, please, with your gender, the daughter of a Russian officer!

        And why should she determine that ... She is a woman:
        https://publizist.ru/blogs/107563/20632/-
        This is the source. There is even a photo of the author and some personal information.
  2. tasha
    tasha 13 October 2017 06: 14
    15
    The author is betrayed by a sense of proportion, it seems to me. And with logic, too, not everything is clear.
    If Lenin is the cause of the satellite, then in the same way Lenin is the cause of the events of 1991 of the year. And in the same way - the reason for the current state of affairs ...
    Found the extreme. Vladimir Ilyich lies to himself, does not touch anyone. And there it is ... wink
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 13 October 2017 06: 49
      +5
      Quote: tasha
      And with logic, too, not everything is clear.

      Exactly. good Draw such parallels
      To say that Sputnik is not related to Soviet power
      extremely inappropriate. It is much more appropriate to draw parallels with the Russian people.
      In general, I consider politicizing the country's achievements. Peter 1 was king if that, but he lifted the country with truly Stalinist methods! hi
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      1. VS
        VS 13 October 2017 08: 44
        +8
        "" ""

        and it’s nothing that in THESE years the WAR was which reduced the population of millions by at least 30-40?
      2. BecmepH
        BecmepH 13 October 2017 09: 23
        11
        -60 000 extinct villages of the heart of Russia-the so-called. The non-chernozem region (from 180 thousand) to 1985 g is also its "achievement".
        And how many fields are now overgrown with slender birches? Didn’t count? And I'll tell you.
        The land - the national wealth of Russia - turned out to be largely unclaimed; its misuse began. As a result, from 1990 to 2013, the area of ​​agricultural land decreased by 22,8 million hectares, arable land - by 16,4 million hectares, but the cultivated area in the country decreased to a greater extent - by 41,4 million hectares, which is 35,2% the entire sown area
        And agricultural land is not a village? Or does this not apply to the "achievements" of the post-Soviet government? Are the lands themselves resolved?
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 13 October 2017 10: 03
          +5
          Quote: BecmepH
          And how many fields are now overgrown with slender birches? Didn’t count? And I'll tell you.

          The article is not about "now." And "now" has grown from rout of the Russian village under that power.
          By 1985 500 000 (half a million) apartment buildings stood empty in the non-chernozem region. When they were overgrown with weeds hundreds of thousands of ha arable land.
          The area of ​​grasslands and pastures decreased by a third.
          In the early 1980s, there was no youth left in the villages: she fled to the cities from poverty and hopelessness.
          1. BecmepH
            BecmepH 13 October 2017 10: 08
            +9
            The article is not about "now." And “now” grew out of the rout of the Russian village under that power.
            Just an article about "now." About what you previously saw, but what is happening under this power, you don’t see? Be objective. Or were villages empty only during the Soviets? And now the number of villages is growing?
            1. Ulan
              Ulan 13 October 2017 14: 17
              +8
              It depends on what time it is. I actually come from a small district city of the Tula region.
              I don’t remember the agricultural region in the 60-70s and early 80s, the villages were empty.
              On the contrary, new schools and hospitals were built, and houses for collective farmers and cowsheds, etc.
              And now, coming to my father’s grave, I see that the fields are overgrown and the villages are empty.
              And I agree that the history of our country cannot be shared, it is continuous and therefore we are talking about the day before yesterday and yesterday and now and about what awaits us tomorrow.
          2. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 13 October 2017 13: 11
            10
            Quote: Olgovich
            The article is not about "now." And “now” grew out of the rout of the Russian village under that power.

            Olgovich stop whining. Already 26 years have passed, go work to your village, otherwise the Communists are to blame for everything, now who's stopping you? This is already some kind of schizophrenia. You really need to be treated. It is time for doctors to take all the monarchists to a psychiatric record.
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 14 October 2017 10: 16
              +2
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              This is already some kind of schizophrenia. You really must be treated. It's time for doctors to take for psychiatric records

              Provoke the same answer? He will not be, for, unlike you, I will receive a Warning.
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              go work to your village, otherwise the Communists are to blame for everything, now who's stopping you?

              There is no my village: disappeared among the other 60 Russian villages of the Non-Black Earth Region by 000 ....
          3. Alf
            Alf 13 October 2017 21: 57
            +2
            Quote: Olgovich
            In the early 1980s, there was no youth left in the villages: she fled to the cities from poverty and hopelessness.

            Now where are they running?
      3. Alex_59
        Alex_59 13 October 2017 10: 08
        18
        Quote: Olgovich
        -60 000 extinct villages of the heart of Russia-the so-called. The non-chernozem region (from 180 thousand) to 1985 g is also its "achievement".

        You already tired of broadcasting this lie from post to post, it really became boring.

        By the time of the revolution, in the territory of the present Perm Territory there were 8 cities. During the years of Soviet rule, 13 settlements were transformed from villages and towns to cities, with a total population capacity of about 400 thousand people at the time of giving the status of a “city”. In addition, 7 cities were erected from scratch from scratch. Conversely, 1 city with a total population of 20 thousand people was transferred from city status to “countryside” status, another city was liquidated (Dedyukhin, due to flooding during the construction of the hydroelectric power station, the population was not drowned with the city, as lovers of bloody gebeni would like , and relocated to the city of Berezniki built from scratch), another city is combined with another city (Borovsk as part of Solikamsk).
        The population of the regional center (Perm) has grown 9 times, some large cities in the region 30 and more times.
        What the hell is "extinction", what kind of nonsense? Half a million people were copied from the villagers to the townspeople, another half a million moved from deaf villages to district centers, increasing their population. Why would people sit in god's dense forgotten corners, what should they do there in these villages? For the sake of statistics, to increase the rural population? Or work in cities in factories? Why are there so many people in the village if the grub in the country is heaps? Well, how much can you transmit this nonsense!
        1. BecmepH
          BecmepH 13 October 2017 11: 24
          +6
          That's right, countryman. He served in Tchaikovsky, so our contractor was from a local village ... In the mid-90s he asked, they say, how are the fields in your village? And he: "Where am I harvesting bread on a combine, birch trees rise. Recently I asked the same thing, and in response:" There is a forest and mushrooms growing. "
          I myself am Saratov. So since childhood, I remember how in the summer “partisans” went to the harvesting station, and the soldiers came in trains. And now for the whole "collective farm" a couple of combines. And cope
          1. Alex_59
            Alex_59 13 October 2017 12: 04
            +6
            Quote: BecmepH
            He served in Tchaikovsky, so our contractor was from a local village ...

            Serdyukov tidied up your division ... sad
          2. GAF
            GAF 13 October 2017 12: 40
            0
            Quote: BecmepH
            And now for the whole "collective farm" a couple of combines. And cope

            That's good that they cope. Russia this year will collect 10 million tons of legumes more than the record in 1978. 1st place in wheat export. Or all the same, we have a "boss, u have disappeared"?
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 13 October 2017 15: 32
              +4
              1st place in wheat export.
              Well, everything is for sale, but bread from feed grain.
              1. Alf
                Alf 13 October 2017 22: 03
                +5
                Quote: Gardamir
                Well, everything is for sale, but bread from feed grain.

                It is the bakers who are now actively breaking the permission to use flour of the 4th and 5th classes in bread, i.e. herbs. The 1st and 2nd grade will be exported, the kings of bread will once again be welded, but the plebs will eat grass too, nothing will be done to it.
            2. Alf
              Alf 13 October 2017 22: 00
              +5
              Quote: GAF
              Russia this year will collect 10 million tons of legumes more than the record in 1978. 1st place in wheat export. Or all the same, we have a "boss, u have disappeared"?

              Regarding "everything is lost." Today, the wisest on the box said, Despite the huge harvest, we should not allow a REDUCTION in the price of bread.
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          1. Alex_59
            Alex_59 13 October 2017 11: 58
            +7
            Quote: Olgovich
            Got it ?! It is when?

            Listen, am I supposed to take pictures of shelves in Magnit and Kopeyochka stores? Come to Russia, maybe you don’t have enough food in Moldova, we have for every taste, shelves are overwhelmed. In Soviet times, it was more modest, but I don’t remember something that from the 60-ies somewhere massively died of hunger.
            Quote: Olgovich
            You are tired of your ignorance, my figures are well known.

            Known. I brought them. On a specific example of a specific region. + 20 of new cities for 70 years of Soviet rule, 0,5 million people by status became overnight citizens. These are the facts. I can give a list of cities with their population and year of transfer to the status of "city".
            Is it necessary?
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 13 October 2017 12: 21
              +2
              Quote: Alex_59
              Listen, am I supposed to take pictures of shelves in Magnit and Kopeyochka stores?

              Listen, did we talk about the "now"?
              Quote: Alex_59
              Quote: Olgovich
              You are tired of your ignorance-my figures are well known.
              Known. I brought them.
              belay
              You brought my numbers? fool
              Quote: Alex_59
              On a specific example of a specific region. +20 new cities in 70 years of Soviet rule, 0,5 million residents by status became overnight citizens. These are the facts. I can give a list of cities with their population and year of transfer to the status of "city".
              Is it necessary?

              WHAT do you prove? You have denied at least one of these statements: -
              The "Russian Cross" was also built by that authority: the depopulation of Russians has been going on since 1964.
              -NO ONE generation of people who entered the working life from the "great" turning point of 1928-30 and beyond, did not reproduce themselves ..

              etc.
              No! If this is normal for you, then, of course, it is clear.

              PS does not occur that not 20, but 50 cities should have appeared in 70 years in your region?
              And the villages should not have disappeared, but turned into villages, villages, cities with their productions? Or there was no land, no resources, people? Everything was! In addition to brainwave ....
              1. Alex_59
                Alex_59 13 October 2017 12: 53
                +7
                Quote: Olgovich
                that not 20, but 50 cities should have appeared over 70 years in your region?

                Why 50? Why 50, and not 500?
                Quote: Olgovich
                And the villages should not have disappeared, but turned into villages, villages, cities with their own industries?

                So it was. Just exactly the same.
                Quote: Olgovich
                WHAT do you prove?

                What are you lying.
                1. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 14 October 2017 10: 21
                  +1
                  Quote: Alex_59
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  that not 20, but 50 cities should have appeared over 70 years in your region?

                  Why 50? Why 50, and not 500?
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  And the villages should not have disappeared, but turned into villages, villages, cities with their own industries?

                  So it was. Just exactly the same.
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  WHAT do you prove?

                  What you're lying.

                  Refute the above facts and figures. You can not lol
              2. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 13 October 2017 13: 32
                +5
                Quote: Olgovich
                And the villages should not have disappeared, but turned into villages, villages, cities with their own industries?

                They certainly do not owe you anything. In your sick imagination it may be. But in reality, everything is as always.
                Quote: Olgovich
                Or there was no land, no resources, people? Everything was! In addition to brainwave ....

                This is said by one who does not have them at all.
                1. petyaivolk
                  petyaivolk 13 October 2017 16: 20
                  +1
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  But in reality, everything is as always.

                  Why do you need villages? What kind of idea is this - "more villages?" , than it reminds slogans of EBN. You yourself do not write from the village, I think so.
                  I heard that commies didn’t let Chukhons and Livonia live in villages, otherwise they would have gone up in agriculture. Are you probably from the same wise owls?
        3. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 13 October 2017 13: 12
          +3
          Quote: Alex_59
          You already tired of broadcasting this lie from post to post, it really became boring.

          Your arguments are useless. The monarchist is permanently insane.
      4. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 13 October 2017 10: 44
        0
        Quote: Olgovich
        [quote ...

        -"Russian Cross" was also built by that power: the Russian depopulation was going on -with 1964 g. .
        [/ Quote]
        Ah well done! So until 1964, during the time of Stalin, with the Russians, "everything was okay" was?
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 13 October 2017 11: 46
          +1
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Ah well done! So until 1964, during the time of Stalin, with the Russians, "everything was okay" was?

          Yeah! Therefore, all the census takers of the census of 1937 and shot .... yes
          1. Ulan
            Ulan 13 October 2017 14: 23
            +5
            Again liberal fakes.
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 14 October 2017 10: 26
              +1
              Quote: Ulan
              Again liberal fakes.

              Again your ignorance: when do you learn at least the elementary history of our homeland? ALL census leaders of 1937 were shot.
          2. Andrey Goncharenko
            Andrey Goncharenko 13 October 2017 23: 20
            0
            Not tired of crap? Or is it a job - to pour mud over the Soviet past?
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 14 October 2017 10: 29
              +1
              Quote: Andrey Goncharenko
              Not tired of crap? Or is it a job - to pour mud over the Soviet past?

              Refute my "nonsense"! You can not lol
      5. olimpiada15
        olimpiada15 13 October 2017 19: 36
        +3
        "How did such a wonderful power soundlessly disappear with the complete indifference of hundreds of millions of people?" Very simple. Muscovites who crawled out onto the streets with greetings from the new government were shown on all channels around the clock, only there were only a hundred thousand, not millions. And the rallies against people who went out all over the country, of whom there were millions who were not shown anywhere and nobody, never told anyone how people suffered and died, this is such a trifle, the new authorities set the task of sending only 20 million to the world, what Chubais did not hesitate to speak out, among other things, the Prime Minister of the Russian Federation. , and the plan was successfully completed. . If the statistics do not converge, then it does not take into account the million citizens living in the republics, previously aimed at the construction of factories and factories, the development of science, the training and treatment of citizens of the national suburbs, for which they were dealt with, after which the million guest workers freely rushed in Russia, receiving passports of citizens of the Russian Federation, unlike Russians, who were not needed by the new government and suddenly turned out to be non-citizens. That's all the indifference: the media and statistics are an instrument of the politics of those in power. This was the approval of the new government and indifference.
    3. Stas157
      Stas157 13 October 2017 08: 37
      +9
      Quote: tasha
      And with logic, too, not everything is clear.
      If Lenin is the cause of the satellite, then in the same way Lenin is the cause of the events of 1991 of the year. And in the same way - the reason for the current state of affairs ...

      The author has everything in order with logic, just as you have with demagogy! You are trying to find contradictions where they do not exist. Thanks to Lenin, and the fundamental changes that have occurred, it was in our country that the first satellite in the world appeared. And also, you are right - if there weren’t Lenin and the USSR, then the betrayal of the elites in 1991 would not have happened either! A causal relationship is traced throughout. Where did you see the contradiction?
      And just as the current state of affairs, there would have been no betrayal in 1991 - there would have been no oligarchic, thieves' power this hour.
      1. tasha
        tasha 13 October 2017 08: 54
        +1
        Where did you see the contradiction?

        The author of the article saw the contradiction (see the first paragraph).
    4. VS
      VS 13 October 2017 08: 42
      +6
      Lenin is the reason for 1991 ?? Did he bring Gorbi with EBN and appoint him ???)))
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 13 October 2017 08: 52
        14
        Quote: V.S.
        Lenin is the reason for 1991 ?? Did he bring Gorbi with EBN and appoint him ???)))

        Lenin and Stalin, such as Gorbachev and the EBN, would be put to the wall rather than appointed to the leadership. And Putin would have been under Stalin, not billions with friends on offshore poked, and would serve the motherland, as Sudoplatov. He carried out his liberal friends against the wall.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 13 October 2017 09: 02
          +7
          Quote: Stas157
          He carried out his liberal friends against the wall.

          So he ... that ... brought. His entourage was called a "colonel with glass eyes." I keep silent ...
    5. BAI
      BAI 13 October 2017 12: 42
      +1
      If you remove all the lies from History, it is not a fact that only the truth will remain there. It is possible that there will be nothing left.
    6. Spnsr
      Spnsr 13 October 2017 14: 32
      0
      Quote: tasha
      The author is betrayed by a sense of proportion, it seems to me. And with logic, too, not everything is clear.
      If Lenin is the cause of the satellite, then in the same way Lenin is the cause of the events of 1991 of the year. And in the same way - the reason for the current state of affairs ...
      Found the extreme. Vladimir Ilyich lies to himself, does not touch anyone. And there it is ... wink

      The author is hysterical, like Lenin lived, Lenin is alive, Lenin will live!
      And Kiselev rather wanted to say that communism as such requires manual control, and if it is not there are centrifugal forces in private property. Everyone therefore wants to have their own, and communism is not!
    7. Ivan Ivanov
      Ivan Ivanov 17 October 2017 20: 43
      0
      Quote: tasha
      If Lenin is the cause of the satellite, then in the same way Lenin is the cause of the events of 1991 of the year. And in the same way - the reason for the current state of affairs ...

      To understand what happened thanks to Lenin and Stalin, and what is contrary, it is better to study the facts: what they wrote about, what they said and did in the state. construction.
  3. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 13 October 2017 06: 27
    21
    You just don’t trash me comrade Lenin! I am for such talk!
    Bear in mind, Nekrasov, I was a comrade, and now demoted to the rank-and-file because I am a bastard - a military specialist, a colonel who had flicked this hand with his own hand.
    So my eye on the enemies of the revolution is very keen.
    Understand what I'm telling you!
    "Two comrades served"
    1. Oleko
      Oleko 13 October 2017 10: 20
      +1
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      7


      Uncle lee

      Today, 06: 27



      You just don’t trash me comrade Lenin! I’m talking to you for such conversations! Bear in mind, Nekrasov, I was a comrade, and now I am demoted to the rank and file because I was a bastard - a military expert, a colonel who had flicked his own hand with this hand. So I have a very sharp eye on the enemies of the revolution. understand why I'm telling you this! "Two comrades served"

      "Andrei, show the Mauser!
      Yes you go
      You know, I will not shu-shu-shu in the corners, I’m right in the face ... "
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 13 October 2017 13: 10
        +5
        - Andrei, let the Mauser look ... - Get out of here!
        What are you doing? Offended? In vain. This is you in vain.
        Well, I thought you were an enemy of the revolution, my heart began to boil, and now I see myself that I was mistaken. - "Wrong."
        This is not a “mistaken” called - betrayal.
        Well no! I told you right in the eye. I did not stand behind me: shu-shu-shu.
        1. Oleko
          Oleko 13 October 2017 17: 11
          +1
          Thank you for the exact retelling. I worked as a keepsake. It’s just that “I’ll kill Comrade Lenin” at the 4th year lecture on scientific communism at MIIT. (1978) The lecturer, without hearing what one student said to the other, said this in the heat of the eye. NK we handed over to another teacher
    2. Yarik
      Yarik 13 October 2017 13: 44
      +2
      Respect and respect comrade! The only sad thing is that abroad we are all associated with such figures as this abominable Kiselev type.
    3. Spnsr
      Spnsr 13 October 2017 14: 36
      +1
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      You just don’t trash me comrade Lenin! I am for such talk!
      Bear in mind, Nekrasov, I was a comrade, and now demoted to the rank-and-file because I am a bastard - a military specialist, a colonel who had flicked this hand with his own hand.
      So my eye on the enemies of the revolution is very keen.
      Understand what I'm telling you!
      "Two comrades served"

      laughing the funny thing is that the author of this article and some commentators are also propagandists !!! Only for Lenin and communism laughing
  4. Kenxnumx
    Kenxnumx 13 October 2017 06: 40
    +9
    Lenin honorary astronaut.
    1. novel66
      novel66 13 October 2017 10: 00
      +5
      grandfather is dead and the business lives
      it would be better on the contrary
      lol
      1. vlad_vlad
        vlad_vlad 13 October 2017 13: 00
        +3
        read the article and already nostalgia for the USSR rolled ... also the lack of logic and distortion of facts.
        If one event occurred before another, then this does not automatically mean that a causal relationship exists between them.

        Well, the fact that Kiselyov (a former liberal-democrat-capitalist) knows how to change shoes in the air is a fact.

        "It’s easy and pleasant to tell the truth in the face of the king!" (C)

        and your poem, novel66, is credited. I did not know, but I will remember. laughing
        1. novel66
          novel66 13 October 2017 17: 18
          +2
          it's not with me - some St. Petersburg group of little-known
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 October 2017 06: 48
    +7
    Strange article. Kiseleva crucified for propaganda. Lenin and satellite are twin brothers. We say Lenin-mean satellite. We say satellite, we mean Lenin. Given the name of the author (Natalya Rumarchuk), according to American logic, we will consider this the Ukrainian "hybrid war".
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 13 October 2017 08: 48
      +8
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Kiseleva crucified for propaganda

      He's a bugger, and that’s it.
      1. novel66
        novel66 13 October 2017 10: 01
        +4
        i.e. six times. anyway?
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 13 October 2017 09: 01
      10
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Lenin and satellite are twin brothers. We say Lenin-mean satellite.

      You intentionally lost a whole chain of causation between Lenin and Sputnik. Just as the citizen did above. Read. I wrote that it was thanks to the remarkable achievements of the Great October Socialist Revolution (I write this with pleasure!) That our backward, agrarian country turned into an advanced industrial superpower ... and then there was Sputnik. Sit down, you deuce!
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 13 October 2017 09: 16
        +2
        I am not talking about accomplishing the Great October Socialist Revolution, but about an article in which everything is mixed together. And the merits of the Soviet government, I obviously know much more widely than you, because by age I still remember Khrushchev well. Therefore, it is not for you to rate me, let alone educate on this subject.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 13 October 2017 09: 23
          +4
          The article is really chaotic. But, it seemed to me you are trying to stain Lenin?
          1. rotmistr60
            rotmistr60 13 October 2017 09: 34
            +2
            This is not at the address. My upbringing and education is good and persistent - Soviet.
      2. AleBors
        AleBors 13 October 2017 13: 43
        +1
        And when was our country a “backward agrarian power”? Facts? Offhand for general development ...
        http://www.pravda-tv.ru/2009/04/30/1017/god-1913-
        rossiya-kotoruyu-my-poteryali
        Even the ultra-liberal resource does not bother
        https://echo.msk.ru/blog/fedor/929486-echo/
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 13 October 2017 19: 20
          +7
          Quote: AleBors
          And when our country was "backward agrarian

          Do you doubt the gigantic leap that Soviet Russia has made - from plow to a nuclear bomb ?? What developed at an explosive rate of + 25% of GDP per year ?! And in that it came out on top in the world? Yes, no one in Tsarist Russia has ever dreamed of such a pace of development !! Like us this hour. You do not read this liberal press. These zhurnalyugi will not tell you such a thing!
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 13 October 2017 19: 28
            +6
            Quote: Stas157
            Do you doubt the gigantic leap that Soviet Russia has made - from plow to a nuclear bomb ?? What developed at an explosive rate of + 25% of GDP per year ?!

            No doubt. At what cost was this achieved, Stas?
            Quote: Stas157
            And in that it came out on top in the world?

            There has never been such a thing, refute ... if you can, essno ...
            Quote: Stas157
            No tsarist Russia has ever dreamed of such a pace of development

            There such goals ... were not set, yeah ... guess three times why, weren’t set ...
            They type ... according to announcements, but forget to learn to read and write.
            NP hi
            1. Alf
              Alf 13 October 2017 22: 08
              +2
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              No doubt. At what cost was this achieved, Stas?

              Yes, yes, yes, five hundred milens of the innocently tortured. And how many died after the 91st? And for some reason, achievements are not visible.
            2. igorj 51
              igorj 51 22 October 2017 13: 08
              0
              No doubt. At what cost was this achieved, Stas?

              Who cares. The main thing that has been achieved. It was a generation of winners. And the winners are not known to be judged.
              There such goals ... were not set, yeah ... guess three times why, weren’t set ...

              And here and guessing is not necessary. Everything is obvious. Just as now, Russia does not set such goals, for exactly the same reason. Hence, such a tender love for the last Tsar Nicholas II, and his associates ...
          2. AleBors
            AleBors 14 October 2017 10: 42
            +1
            I have no doubt. I know this and do not argue. It’s just not worth asserting that Russia was a backward country at the beginning of the XNUMXth century. I only about it yes
            1. Alf
              Alf 14 October 2017 19: 36
              +1
              Quote: AleBors
              It’s just not worth asserting that Russia was a backward country at the beginning of the XNUMXth century. I only about it yes

              And what was RI in the ranks of the first?
  6. aws4
    aws4 13 October 2017 06: 53
    +5
    Yes, the author of the article goes to extremes ... let's be honest and look at the outcome of the reign of certain rulers and about the backlogs they left behind for posterity ... what do we have in the end ??? Lenin destroyed the rotten and already shaky Russia and created essentially a new under-state .. what he left behind for the future ruler ??? no!!! with all my ambiguous attitude towards Stalin, I must admit that it was he who was the builder of the USSR, it was he who corrected many Bolshevik mistakes and gathered the country in a fist, but somewhere with excesses, but now it’s hard to understand if there was another way ... Lenin’s task was to come to power and He took it but didn’t pull it, because how to break it is not build !!!!
  7. Alex66
    Alex66 13 October 2017 06: 54
    17
    You can lie about Lenin, Stalin, the October Revolution as much as you like, but what was done at that time shows all the insignificance of the arguments of the opponents of socialism. We demolished the capital building along with the foundation, which needed redecorating and replacing life support systems and looked at the beautiful western houses from plywood, just something in our climate is not comfortable in them.
  8. Alex_59
    Alex_59 13 October 2017 06: 57
    +7
    The Soviet government set the task - and completed.
    Directly put the power itself and performed it? Stunned, what kind of autonomy is in power. Hermophrodite of some kind.
    But Soviet power was "invented" and implemented by Lenin. There is simply nothing to talk about.
    Well, if Lenin invented, implemented, etc. then you have to be consistent, because Lenin, as a result, seems to have collapsed Soviet power. In the 91 year. Or have other people already done this? If others, then let's not write nonsense, but we agree that Lenin was one of the founders of the Soviet government, but completely different people worked on the development of the country and society, who gave the Soviet regime an image completely different from what Lenin originally created . There were many of these people, they themselves also changed, their views changed, time passed, other people came. They all called themselves Communists, but the Communists of the 20's are one thing, the Communists of the 50's are another, and the Communists of the 90's are generally the third. I would even say that the Communists and communism generally disappeared already in the 30 years, there was only a sign.
    The satellite (and not only) was a direct, logical continuation of the October Revolution.
    Damn, I have blood from my eyes is going to read this nonsense, as well as Kiseleva look. Perestroika with the collapse of the Union, the war in Chechnya and Yeltsin should then be considered a logical continuation of the Revolution. To go nuts logic.
  9. Zloy
    Zloy 13 October 2017 07: 37
    +8
    In fact, the division of the Soviet Union into national republics was laid down by Lenin and Trotsky. And this time bomb worked in 1991. Stalin, by the way, opposed ... Another min-artificial buildup of Ukraine at the expense of New Russia. I agree with my colleagues that it was Stalin who became the true creator of the new state, and of course he always emphasized that he was a faithful Leninist.
    For example, I respect Lenin as a theorist. He has very capacious definitions, many of which have turned into catchphrases. But I can’t accept his practice on the massive use of executions. Here is such a dialectic. In general, all events, phenomena, historical figures have many facets. In my opinion, it is impossible, as an author, to divide the whole world into black and white. Because of this division into black and white, we have just shy from side to side. In 1917, one, in 1991 turned 180 to another. What is impossible, like the Chinese, to combine the positive aspects of a planned and market economy. For some reason, it turns out as usual for us - they took all the worst from socialism and
    from capitalism. When will we get smarter and stop running around with flags and start building the economy?
    1. Zheleznostop
      Zheleznostop 13 October 2017 08: 25
      +1
      The most correct thesis from the presented, I support.
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 13 October 2017 14: 00
        +1
        Quote: Ironstop
        The most correct thesis from the presented, I support.

        Then it turns out that you supported stupidity.
    2. BecmepH
      BecmepH 13 October 2017 09: 36
      +2
      In fact, the division of the Soviet Union into national republics was laid down by Lenin and Trotsky. And this time bomb worked in 1991
      A strange conclusion ... And here is a mine? This is the course of history. And, often, the course of history depends on random events.
      If the Soviet Union were not divided into republics, then there wouldn’t be the 90s? You think so?
      Or maybe then were the -80s, -70s, -60s? Or maybe there would be no Earth? So how do you know what would happen?
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 13 October 2017 11: 04
        +2
        Quote: BecmepH
        A strange conclusion ... And here is a mine? This is the course of history. And, often, the course of history depends on random events.

        At every course of history have a first and last name. smile
        The name and surname of the person who chose the administrative-territorial division of the USSR according to the national-apartment principle is Vladimir Ilyich Lenin. Although there was an alternative.
        Quote: BecmepH
        If the Soviet Union were not divided into republics, then there wouldn’t be the 90s? You think so?

        If the USSR had not been divided into national sovereign Soviet socialist states, there would have been no sticking out of a national attribute. For example, there would be no forcible Ukrainization of Russian regions in Ukraine, when those who did not speak the Ukrainian language were fired without severance pay.
        Hire only employees who speak the Ukrainian language. With a reduction, those who do not speak the Ukrainian language should be fired first of all.

        This is not Ukraine-2017, but USSR-1925.
        And national feudalism in Transcaucasia would have been stopped in the bud, when in the same Georgia, during the famine in the Volga region, the border of the republic was closed.
        From this date, the borders of the Republic of Georgia are declared closed, and the further passage of refugees into the territory of the Soviet Socialist Republic of Georgia is stopped. We ask urgently dependent orders to the relevant authorities. Please acknowledge receipt of this telegram ... "
        2) Ҥ 1. Persons receiving permits for the right of entry of their relatives to Georgia shall pay 50 rubles for the permits issued to them. (This is Georgian bonuses: 000 million equals 1 rubles in gold.)
        § 2. Government agencies initiating applications for the issuance of entry permits to persons who, by their special knowledge are necessary, pay 500 rubles ...
        § 5. Persons who, after August 13, 1917, arrived in Georgia and wish to obtain the right of permanent residence in Georgia, if their request is satisfied, pay 1 mill. rubles.
        § 6. Persons who, by August 13, 1922, had reached 5 years of stay within Georgia ... pay 1 mill. For the right to further stay within Georgia. rub…
        § 8. The following persons have the right to further stay within Georgia from persons arriving within its borders after August 13, 1917:
        ... 3. all members of trade unions who are in the union for 6 months by the date of publication of this resolution;
        4. Citizens who have business relations with Georgia. "
        “Georgian citizenship is lost: a Georgian citizen if she marries a foreigner”

        No wonder the Georgian Bolsheviks so fiercely resisted autonomy:
        The union proposed in the form of autonomy of independent republics proposed on the basis of the theses of Comrade Stalin is considered premature.
        The combination of economic efforts and a common policy is considered necessary, but with all the attributes of independence preserved.
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 13 October 2017 14: 48
          0
          Quote: Alexey RA
          The name and surname of the person who chose the administrative-territorial division of the USSR according to the national-apartment principle is Vladimir Ilyich Lenin. Although there was an alternative.

          Disintegration into individual states.
          Quote: Alexey RA
          If the USSR had not been divided into national sovereign Soviet socialist states, there would have been no sticking out of a national attribute. For example, there would be no forcible Ukrainization of Russian regions in Ukraine, when those who did not speak the Ukrainian language were fired without severance pay.

          There, this sign was sticking out, without any communists. And everything else is just nonsense which we had with all power enough.
          Quote: Alexey RA
          And national feudalism in Transcaucasia would have been stopped in the bud, when in the same Georgia, during the famine in the Volga region, the border of the republic was closed.

          For this, it is necessary for the local population to change public consciousness, otherwise it would all simply smolder for the time being. Well, but with consciousness, alas, it did not work out, the inertia is too great. That is why we have built communism.
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 13 October 2017 15: 03
            +3
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            Disintegration into individual states.

            No. Federal state from autonomous republics. Or even from the provinces. And not from sovereign states with their governments, parties and Soviets.
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            There, this sign was sticking out, without any communists. And everything else is just nonsense which we had with all power enough.

            With the refusal of the national-republican system of the USSR, such a bacchanalia would not exist. Local authorities simply would not have so many opportunities.
      2. Alf
        Alf 14 October 2017 19: 42
        0
        Quote: BecmepH
        In fact, the division of the Soviet Union into national republics was laid down by Lenin and Trotsky. And this time bomb worked in 1991
        A strange conclusion ... And here is a mine? This is the course of history. And, often, the course of history depends on random events.

        If I remember correctly, then the Constitution was written about the right of free exit of the republics from the country. That is, if Ukraine or Belarus or any other republic declares that the overwhelming majority is for leaving the USSR, then it has the right to secede and no one can prevent it. But if the country were united and indivisible, then the desire to leave would be interpreted only according to the Criminal Code of the USSR and the country's government would have every right to increase the number of inhabitants behind a high fence in the snow.
    3. White and fluffy
      White and fluffy 13 October 2017 12: 44
      0
      I fully agree. I read the comment with pleasure.
  10. parusnik
    parusnik 13 October 2017 07: 54
    +6
    Here is another “propagandist” at the government level, a certain D. Medvedev made a statement, saying that the October Revolution is a step back ... And when, he was accepted into the pioneers and the Komsomol swore ...
  11. spirit
    spirit 13 October 2017 08: 11
    +3
    Kiselev for federal money can kiss Hitler with his gums laughing Shl..a and on the Fed channel sh ... a) He already had a face in Crimea stuffed more there with no foot laughing
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 13 October 2017 15: 06
      0
      you are wrong - he has a good summer residence in Koktebel, he is the chief of the annual music festival in Koktebel (GDP was at the opening this summer), he is engaged in viticulture and winemaking in the same Koktebel.
  12. netslave
    netslave 13 October 2017 08: 36
    +1
    So what is a schoolboy thinking?

    And who of the current schoolchildren watches Kiseleva and TV in general? Did the author of an article about a computer and an internet hear? Classic TV will die in the next 10-20-30 years.
  13. captain
    captain 13 October 2017 08: 50
    +6
    Dear author! If it weren’t for Lenin, then of course they didn’t invent radios, planes didn’t take off, women didn’t give birth, they didn’t build the Eiffel Tower, they didn’t build a tunnel under the English Channel. And in general, without Ilyich, everything would have died and collapsed, like the USSR. Lenin was a destroyer, not a creator, they built everything that the author writes about, thanks to the fact that Stalin was in power. Thanks to the enormous tension of the whole people, everything, not just Leninists. Lenin was a great man, but not a god. He made quite a few mistakes, especially in national politics, which led to the collapse of the USSR and the exodus of Russians from many former allied and autonomous entities. They already tried to idealize it and it turned out like Chernomyrden; they wanted the best, but it turned out as always.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 13 October 2017 11: 27
      +3
      Lenin was a great man, but not a god.
      The cat left the kittens, it's Lenin's fault. I know one modern politician who is appointed to be responsible only for success, and his partner is responsible only for failure. Tandem however.
      Therefore, when criticizing someone from the past, also criticize the present.
  14. forty-eighth
    forty-eighth 13 October 2017 08: 53
    +4
    Apparently Kiselev recently sang about it, because the reason is simple - the centennial of the Great October Revolution is approaching. The task is to denigrate
  15. thinker
    thinker 13 October 2017 09: 13
    +3
    A classic comes to mind -
    "Ay, pug! Know she is strong,
    What barks at the Elephant! "
    Natalya Rumarchuk
    “What do you think is the secret of Putin’s popularity? Is he a great politician? No, he’s not a great politician at all. Most of the successes are attributed to him through the efforts of Kiselev, Solovyov, Volodin and other specialists.
    https://www.opentown.org/news/121832
  16. Olgovich
    Olgovich 13 October 2017 09: 50
    +6
    The relationship between development space и Soviet power straight as the truth.

    The author would know that space was mastered not only by the USSR, but also by other countries and their successes were no less outstanding. But to owls. they had no power and have no power, but very much the other way around.
    There would be this power, if there is no cosmos and atom would be open in any case. It is obvious!
    1. Alex_59
      Alex_59 13 October 2017 10: 43
      +8
      Quote: Olgovich
      The author would know that space was mastered not only by the USSR, but also by other countries and their successes were no less outstanding. But to owls. they had no power and have no power, but very much the other way around.
      There would be this power, if there is no cosmos and atom would be open in any case. It is obvious!

      That is, when the snot in the "dying Russian village" is damned communist pests, and when the cosmos is itself puffed up. good
      I wonder who in Europe and the USA drove the population into cities from villages? Also communists? There, these processes went much further (USA - 77%, Germany - 88%, RF only 73% of urban residents). And the worst horror in Belgium is 97% of urban residents! Poor, poor Belgian extinct village! Damned Bolsheviks, what have you done with unfortunate Belgium!
      laughing laughing laughing
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 13 October 2017 11: 31
        +4
        Quote: Alex_59
        That is, when the snot in the "dying Russian village" is damned communist pests, and when the cosmos is itself puffed up.

        In the USA, Lenin launched rockets, yeah. And they also discovered the atomlol
        Quote: Alex_59
        Interestingly, who in Europe and the USA drove the population into cities from villages? Also communists? There, these processes went much further (USA - 77%, Germany - 88%, Russia only 73% of urban residents). And the worst horror in Belgium is 97% of urban residents! Poor, poor Belgian extinct village! Damned Bolsheviks, what have you done with unfortunate Belgium!

        It doesn’t seem that interesting, otherwise we would have known that in the “poor” Belgium and Germany urbanization took place by the enlargement of villages and their transformation into cities, and not their destruction (due to lack of brains it’s normal to lead the country)
        1. Alex_59
          Alex_59 13 October 2017 11: 50
          +4
          Quote: Olgovich
          It doesn’t seem that interesting, otherwise we would have known that in the “poor” Belgium and Germany urbanization took place by the enlargement of villages and their transformation into cities, and not their destruction (due to lack of brains it’s normal to lead the country)

          In my region, where I live, during the Soviet period, 13 settlements became “villages” from “villages”. For example, the village of Chusovoy, in which in the 20 years there were about 15 thousand people, and in the 1959 year there were already 63 thousands of inhabitants (a city from 1933 years). Or the village of Dobryanka, in which 20 people lived in the 7000 years, and in the 1967 year, 17 000 (a city from 1943 years).
          And 7 cities built in the open field from nothing. For example, the city of Berezniki, which did not exist in the 20 years, but in the 1967 year the population was already 137 of thousands of inhabitants. For example, the city of Tchaikovsky, which was not yet in 40, and in 1967 there were 33 of thousands of inhabitants.
          And those cities that were inherited from the Republic of Ingushetia grew at the expense of urbanization of the surrounding villages at times. For example, the ancient city of Solikamsk, in which 1926 inhabitants lived in the 4000 year, and 1959 82 inhabitants lived in the 000 year.
          So who are you sculpting? Not a single village in my region has been "destroyed" as you put it. People gradually moved and continue to move to cities, because there is no work in the village. Tractors began to plow for people, where in tsarist times a crowd of people and a week of work were needed, now one tractor can cope in one day. And there’s nowhere to eat food in the shops. But engineers, welders, crane operators are in short supply. For 25 years there have been no Bolsheviks, but villages still continue to close — who is destroying them? No one. Urbanization is taking place.

          You are a liar, Olgovich. It is a fact. laughing
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 13 October 2017 11: 59
            +3
            Quote: Alex_59
            So who are you sculpting? Not a single village in my region was "destroyed"

            I give the facts. And not you, you are hopeless.
            Quote: Alex_59
            You are a liar, Olgovich. It is a fact.

            Refute at least one that I cited fact. You can not? No. And who are you after that?
            1. Alex_59
              Alex_59 13 October 2017 12: 01
              +4
              Quote: Olgovich
              I give the facts. And not you, you are hopeless.

              Drain! laughing
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 13 October 2017 14: 55
                0
                Quote: Alex_59
                Drain!

                And what else could you expect from a lover of spherical monarchist Russia in a vacuum?
              2. Olgovich
                Olgovich 14 October 2017 10: 33
                +1
                Quote: Alex_59
                Quote: Olgovich
                I give the facts. And not you, you are hopeless.

                Drain! laughing

                The FACTS given, figures of SOVIET statistics, is a drain ?! fool Refute them!
                But you are not able, alas.
        2. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 13 October 2017 14: 53
          +1
          Quote: Olgovich
          It doesn’t seem that interesting, otherwise we would have known that in the “poor” Belgium and Germany urbanization took place by the enlargement of villages and their transformation into cities, and not their destruction (due to lack of brains it’s normal to lead the country)

          There this Belgium surpass from end to end. And we have 1/6 of the land with a very difficult climate and other conditions. But why should the monarchist mention these trifles otherwise the lies will become quite obvious.
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 14 October 2017 10: 39
            +1
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            Am this Belgium surpass from end to end. And we have 1/6 of the land with a very difficult climate and other conditions. But why should the monarchist mention these trifles otherwise lies will become very obvious.

            My “lies” when will it be finally exposed ?! am
            When you cansomething? lol laughing
  17. SPACE
    SPACE 13 October 2017 10: 33
    +4
    Russian presidential elections are coming. And naturally, the FAS command was given to chain infops on both sides of the barricades, this applies not only to Kremlin propagandists, but also liberal propagandists.
    This article is nothing more than one of the many episodes of the election confrontation. A sort of information grenade, which, judging by the structure of the plot and the text, as well as by the factors affecting the brains of the victims, was thrown out of the trenches of the liberals)))
    Analyzing this article, we can say that in the camp of liberals, the crisis of creatine and the lack of professional personnel, a sort of primitive craftwork, though rude, undisguised, the effect of such garbage, can be obtained by acting only on completely holey brains of frank idiots, such a large amount of ungreased pieces of facts , only there and fit.
    The motive and the very process of creating the article by the author is primitive and simple for liberals lies on the surface; it is necessary to identify, cling and untwist, any contradictory verbal statement of the main propagandists of the Kremlin, with the aim of directly discrediting them and indirectly direct direct owners of the Kremlin. And, strangely enough, the best topic for liberals is Soviet! Although it was the liberals themselves who were the main exposers of the totalitarian crooked regime, this does not bother them at all. The decision to use this topic contrary to my own opinion lies in the fact that this topic is close to many citizens who are to vote and on whom the upcoming choice depends. Blaming Kiselev for criticizing the Soviet regime, they (the liberals) seem to show people that Kiselyov is not their man at all, and, accordingly, his masters, not the people who share the values ​​of the majority of Sovkov’s generation. And no matter how unobtrusively, they naturally suggest not voting for Putin. The main task is to make sweeping in the heads of people, soften their brain. In order to camouflage, so as not to discredit themselves, they do not say who they are, in order to assimilate the material well, the experimental subjects, mimicking the same scoops, and do not inform who they should vote for. This, the second phase, will be dealt with by other people and other articles.
    Example: they took two, as it seems to them, the interaction of the excluding statements of Kiselyov as two points:
    In one of the latest programs of Dmitry Kiselev, "The Results of the Week," two extremely revealing passages sounded. Here is the first: "Lenin's desire to build a society on the basis of market-free relations failed. Lenin was wrong." In the same program, Kiselyov enthusiastically described how, in distant Australia, the anniversary of the First Artificial Earth Satellite launched on October 4 on October 1957 was solemnly celebrated.

    ... and untwisted a chain, a line of reasoning having a definite conclusion ...
  18. Oleko
    Oleko 13 October 2017 11: 18
    +1
    Now there are two kinds of articles of the first type. "Sausage for 1 and ice cream for 2.20". The sky was bluer, Water is cleaner, People are better than 7 species. Repression, Famine, which claimed millions (?) Of lives., Deportations, the capture of several million Red Army soldiers in the first months of the war. On the one hand - varnishing, on the other - the presentation of facts as indispensable attributes of socialism. Both that, and another does not correspond to reality. There is no socialism. Why is he not? Is this really a non-viable system? There are no articles with a good, unbiased historical analysis. (My wife, 2 years old, sends socialism to hell. "Sausage for 66 - you are in Moscow, and here I changed my husband's rations for midshipmen. The apartment in Kamstigal is comfortable on the street, the stove is coal. This one on board the ship , and I’m like a squirrel in a wheel. In the morning, to Koenig to work, in the evening at home. Admirals through the GUT MO received everything, and we who didn’t go to the BS? My drunk took a log for a submarine, attacked, and tore off the regatta. on the target boat. Divorced with a dunce, I now live like a man ")
  19. iouris
    iouris 13 October 2017 11: 36
    0
    Modern ideologists and politicians who give their assessments to Marx, Lenin, Stalin and the historical phenomena of the XNUMXth century are ridiculous. Dialectical .... at least understands that he is not knowledgeable enough and does not have sufficient qualifications.
  20. kaschey
    kaschey 13 October 2017 11: 46
    +2
    Article big +!
    What a bad habit to crap for yourself.
    It would be alright if a simple person who did not know the story spoke of Lenin not so "completely" as he would anyway feel the reaction of others, but this is the host of the central program. There is an order, money paid - the poor man fulfills it.
    We advise Kiselyov not to get into the topic of Lenin; he does not look very good there.
  21. Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack 13 October 2017 11: 50
    +9
    Quote: Olgovich
    in the “poor” Belgium and Germany, urbanization took place by enlarging villages and turning them into cities, rather than destroying them (due to lack of brains it is normal to rule the country)

    The territory of Germany, poor, voice, if not breaking.
    There were no options, like villages, one and a half kilo meters from each other, standing together.
    Now estimate the same in the Russian Federation ... a troll is cheap, paid ... negative
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 14 October 2017 11: 03
      +1
      Quote: Golovan Jack
      The territory of Germany, poor, voice, if not breaking.

      Can’t you yourself? request
      Quote: Golovan Jack
      There were no options, like villages, one and a half kilo meters from each other, bring together.

      And in the USA, too, urbanization was the extinction of 60 American villages and the depopulation of central America? lol
      Quote: Golovan Jack
      troll is cheap, paid..

      Well done! What are you all the same .... request
  22. Lex.
    Lex. 13 October 2017 11: 58
    +1
    If Lenin had asked for another ten years, it would have been different
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 13 October 2017 14: 59
      0
      Quote: Lex.
      If Lenin had asked for another ten years, it would have been different

      Soviet Socialist Republic of Israel. laughing
      1. Lex.
        Lex. 13 October 2017 15: 21
        0
        Well, Stalin put his hand to make Israel
  23. Gardamir
    Gardamir 13 October 2017 12: 25
    +6
    How famously intensified Kremlin propagandists. Do you see all the evil from Lenin. He bombed everything. Only those days are long, difficult to judge. Let's talk about the current ones. They reproach us all for not defending the USSR. But did they call us into capitalism? Did someone threaten that they would condemn Russia to liberalism, optimize medicine, education. Help banks rob people.
    Before judging, look around Lenin. Anti-people power, robbing people, and people are happy to give the last penny to yachts.
    1. SPACE
      SPACE 13 October 2017 17: 45
      +2
      For them, there is nothing better than criticizing the Soviet regime, to increase the rating, in anticipation of the elections)))
      Quote: Gardamir
      How famously intensified the Kremlin propagandists. Do you see all the evil from Lenin.

      The dilemma, of both of you, one smart one?
  24. bober1982
    bober1982 13 October 2017 12: 29
    +2
    When you read such a scribble, then right after reading you look: Who is she ?
    The author of the prose book “Why did you fall in love with a poet”, it turns out that she is a creative person, and she’s there, in historians and thinkers.
    1. SPACE
      SPACE 13 October 2017 17: 30
      +1
      Quote: bober1982
      When you read such a scribble, then immediately after reading you look: who is this?
      The author of the prose book “Why did you fall in love with a poet”, it turns out that she is a creative person, and she’s there, in historians and thinkers.

      What do you want, now on prose you will not earn much, not in honor. There are more profitable sources ...
  25. White and fluffy
    White and fluffy 13 October 2017 12: 36
    +3
    The article was written superficially, one-sidedly. The author took Lenin’s actions characterizing him on the positive side. All that remains is to say kindly wai yes this is the most humane person. SEER. The historical picture is completely distorted. Lenin is a genius by nature, Nature generously rewarded him with negative traits. Turn to PSS Lenin. Zhirinovsky V.V. He chose monstrous orders and announced them to the deputies.
    What is "ugliness loss". Disgrace is the absence of an image. It is impossible to lose what is not.
    scientists and engineers are the key to the progress of society in general and socialism in particular. "

    Scientists and engineers (intelligentsia) were punished by the Gulag only because they were an interlayer. It was the same with priests. Punished for being pop.
  26. konus
    konus 13 October 2017 13: 25
    +4
    What can be said about Mr. Kiselyov? He is tired of higher education! Retrained !. Let's start with his first passage regarding the market. According to Kiselev, it turns out that the market is an attribute of private property. However, according to any political economy theory, the market appears there when the exchange of goods appears. Later, money was added to it as a kind of equivalent value of goods. Therefore, in the USSR the market was contrary to Kiselyov’s opinion. Another issue is that if there was state ownership of everything and everything, it was a regulated market (Gosplan, centralized supply system, and so on). Then came the idea of ​​a liberal market, when the state generally abandons the role of market regulator and there is complete freedom of private property. The destruction of the economic potential of the country began instantly (starting from the 90s), and we still feel its consequences. Therefore, do not blame Lenin. But now the question arises: - Why is this slander necessary? And the answer is obvious. After the proclamation of the NEP, the Lenin government took only 5 years (from 1922 to 1927) to restore the economy of the USSR to the level of development of the economy of the Russian Empire in 1913. And this despite the fact that compared with 1913 the amount of land decreased, the number of population decreased and the industrial potential sharply decreased (there were no industrial enterprises in Poland. Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland). What today? Has the industrial potential of the Russian Federation reached at least the level of 1990? Something is not very noticeable! Against the background of the current Russian economic brothelier, one must kick Lenin! You see that either in the brains of the younger generation something will remain!
  27. Stepan Kudinov
    Stepan Kudinov 13 October 2017 13: 50
    +3
    What to expect from the wretched? After all, they are only alive for the fact that they sell everything and everything for three green pennies, if only to eat GRAVE and free ride around the foreign land.
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 13 October 2017 15: 01
      +1
      not for 3 kopecks. In Koktebel, a good summer house, engaged in grape growing and winemaking. like Medvedev.
      1. Ace Tambourine
        Ace Tambourine 15 October 2017 19: 17
        0
        Duc for this is a certain Andrei Vadimovich the Gundos and was offended by the power of Raseyunskaya, for the vineyards and business were squeezed out of him ...
  28. Overlock
    Overlock 13 October 2017 14: 59
    +1
    unfortunately, this leader and others like him deservedly got the name kiselTV from the Ukrainians
  29. tezey
    tezey 13 October 2017 15: 32
    +2
    Actually, what we want from Mr. Kiselyov. He honestly, for good money, fulfills the social order of certain circles of our native capitalists. For them, the socialist Soviet state and its founder, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, is understood as a red rag for a bull. The very idea of ​​socialism and its embodiment in reality in the USSR was and is today a terrible threat to the world of capitalism. Lenin and his followers really showed the whole world that it is possible to build a state in the shortest possible time without exploiting the workers and achieve outstanding success in the economy, science, education, culture, healthcare
    research, defense and other areas. Today, in the post-Soviet countries, including the Russian Federation, for 26 years of the construction of capitalism, there is not even an approximation of such successes. What gave the market economy of Moldova, Georgia, Ukraine. They are what are developing. They are sufficient. They provide their citizens with quality services. No matter how. Where is their culture, economy, social support of people. Instead of the real rights of the workers, they are given a certain fetish of democracy according to rotten recipes. Democracy is a multi-party system and elections, and you will choose those whom we untwist. And we will untwist those who will provide the highest profit in your countries to us, the capitalists, and above all the overseas capitalists. In our country, the situation is different. A certain and substantial part of the capital, due to a number of external factors, lost the support of international capital, and in some cases, our capital acted as a direct and dangerous competitor. This, in my opinion, is the essence of the current conflict between the Russian Federation and the West. But personally, I believe that in the future there is simply no alternative to socialism. The experience of the USSR has shown that socialism makes it possible to achieve development in any fields, including sausages and jamon, beloved by the liberals, on the shelves, faster and more efficiently than the capitalist system. It may be that early in 1917 socialism came into the world, but history cannot be redone. So there was such a need for the history of mankind.
    1. fif21
      fif21 13 October 2017 21: 42
      0
      Quote: Theseus
      Lenin and his followers really showed the whole world that it is possible to build a state as soon as possible without exploiting the workers

      Are you serious? And didn’t you think that the state could be an exploiter? The Gulag is slave labor for food! hi
    2. fif21
      fif21 13 October 2017 21: 47
      0
      Quote: Theseus
      Today, in the post-Soviet countries, including the Russian Federation, for 26 years of the construction of capitalism, there is not even an approximation of such successes. What the market economy has given

      You know that China is a communist country, and what it has achieved by combining communist ideology and market relations.
  30. daddy angel
    daddy angel 13 October 2017 18: 33
    +2
    The funny thing is that the fact that the Bolsheviks failed in military communism was recognized by Lenin himself. The author, apparently not in the course or trying to be more faithful to the Pope of Rome, is surprised by the outright stupidity and ignorance of the non-Bolsheviks: instead of studying the basics of the issue, they are engaged in propaganda of an ideologist. And what is the satellite related to the policy of war communism? The satellite is the result of the mixed economy of the Stalin type.
    1. daddy angel
      daddy angel 13 October 2017 18: 36
      +1
      It’s to blame, it’s not the author, but the author. This explains a lot.
  31. samarin1969
    samarin1969 13 October 2017 19: 47
    0
    Well, this hysteria is from the category, who prays to some gods ... Who - for pseudo-equality, someone - for Russia ... And barons commemorated in vain - as always, with a gesheft "on an armored car" ...
  32. Alexaker
    Alexaker 13 October 2017 20: 13
    0
    Sorry, We live in the information age, industrialization is in the background (Passat those in kyatay)
  33. fif21
    fif21 13 October 2017 21: 29
    +1
    Lenin, like any person, is multifaceted. Everyone sees in him what he wants to see. He created a state respected in the world on the ruins of an empire, but what did Kiselev create? As they say in the people - with a tongue to grind, not toss bags. Two countries created a nuclear bomb - the USA and the USSR, two countries began to explore the space of the USSR and the USA. Natalia (author of the article) also piled everything together, and Putin and Baghdasoryan negative
    disappointed in the article. hi
  34. Elevator in the building
    Elevator in the building 14 October 2017 01: 25
    +1
    Quote: Alexaker
    Sorry, We live in the information age, industrialization is in the background (Passat those in kyatay)

    My "savage", my "surviving" in Bratsk, in the taiga saapsem deaf, but on the tiny river Angara (who does not know - googles in Google) .. And therefore, how many times my "little ladies" have to say "ha" your " information, "without such unnecessary" industrialization "? But perhaps everything is simpler: "uncle, you- durack, or troll *" !? You, uncle, oh, I'm sorry, Vee, the troll - fingers in the SunTe socket, eh ... shakes - that's the ento industrialization .. Without it, it’s like no ice now ... And the fact that you were sent for oud is information, and with it, oddly enough for you, you can live in this country, and some kind of "red nano Chu" is an example, although many (and I am no exception !!!) clearly wish him an irrevocable trip to / to the territory of HELL!
    And even simpler - unplug "" this shNyurok "from the outlet, and" eat "only information from environmentally friendly sites (well, China epta to you / you example)))))
  35. Radikal
    Radikal 14 October 2017 14: 57
    0
    Quote: xetai9977
    The whole essence of Kiselev’s propaganda.

    Moreover, it is so primitive in this propaganda that involuntarily there are parallels with dill propaganda. With such "propagandists" we will always be forever second, third, fourth ... sad
  36. already a Muscovite
    already a Muscovite 15 October 2017 02: 23
    +1
    Sling cutter, I have height and weight, substandard. Boot size 48. And on you jesters, meat grows only by the age of forty. The trifle is USS-striped. laughing
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 15 October 2017 03: 30
      +2
      Quote: already a Muscovite
      I have height and weight, substandard.

      your mozkhkhs are not conditioned, so they’ve weaved a type of “construction battalion” into you, though ...
      Quote: already a Muscovite
      Boot size 48

      it so that more poop came in, and that you have more boots or a head?
      Quote: already a Muscovite
      And you are a jester

      Now you can safely leave your address, for the demobilization of the airborne yes I hope everyone will take on increased obligations for the release of black boots of the 48th size wink
      Quote: already a Muscovite
      meat grows only by the age of forty. The trifle is ussato-striped

      Stump is clear, fashionable. We are under insurance.
      Threat. baby, if you need to troll, go ahead, do not touch the current of the airborne forces! After all, they will find you a counter, and even more so in maskvabad, and they will explain the policy of the party and for what we love the Motherland!
      I just advise you to leave the site yourself until the Guard notices you. bully
      1. already a Muscovite
        already a Muscovite 15 October 2017 16: 57
        0
        Quote: Stroporez
        I just advise you to leave the site yourself until the Guard notices you

        ... heh ... are you a female dog threatening me ?? And what is it? Not really a murder ?? AND??
        Quote: Stroporez
        I hope everyone takes

        Quote: Stroporez
        Clear stump, fashion We

        Whose are you all We are yes We are ... Mumbling ... Are you yourself, at least something worth? Or are you doing everything with a crowd of friends? drinks drinks children too? wassat
        Don’t scare me. And speak for yourself. ... cardinal's guardsman ... laughing
        .
        1. Ace Tambourine
          Ace Tambourine 15 October 2017 19: 32
          0
          In general, butchert is meaningless ...
          It turns out that I should idolize Lenin for the fact that in the 90s I was able to buy an apartment in Moscow with my hump working 16 hours a day with a wandering telemaster? Or should I curse him for the fact that with the "Kamunars" I simply would not be allowed to do this?
          And who should I thank for declaring at the institute in 1981 that I did not consider the history of the CPSU to be a subject to study, because the future engineer absolutely does not need it in work?
          Well, about the consequences, I think it makes no sense to talk ... The rector turned gray from such a student ...
          On what ear to listen and discuss all kinds of trash like Kiselev, Akhedzhakov, and others with the letter M ... Makarevich and Medvedev, modera ..
          This is our story, and we must tell it to our children, and not wise men with blue eyes .....
          Grandmothers and grandfathers taught me the truth ... And believe me, it was much different from the one that we sucked in at school ...
          And whatever she is, she is Our History ...
          That said Pharaoh .... (c) ...
  37. Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 15 October 2017 20: 52
    +1
    Alf,
    Well, judging by the manuals, I’ll give you something, ala ball-bearing factory laughing
    possible varicas about opening your own business in maskvabad to trim a mustache or auto center "show the way" wassat
    Well, a lot of Receptoff
    1. already a Muscovite
      already a Muscovite 15 October 2017 21: 39
      0
      Why don't you calm down? or are you a local brawler here? Or are you in kind from envy so bombed? laughing Especially your contempt for the capital and its inhabitants ... heh ... "Maskvabad"
      It’s like in your city (I don’t know where you are from) you (or you) radically solved the problem of migrants, and now you can enjoy racially pure Slavic (well, to the extreme European) faces in markets, shops, cafes, hospitals, construction sites cleaning streets, etc.? Well, brag. And then you express yourself as if you have an ideal Russian town, and not a village, or even some village. hi
  38. Sewer krainiy
    Sewer krainiy 15 October 2017 22: 18
    0
    Quote: Olgovich
    Quote: Andrey Goncharenko
    Not tired of crap? Or is it a job - to pour mud over the Soviet past?

    Refute my "nonsense"! You can not lol

    There are 7 trillion and one star in the sky. Refute my nonsense ... You - DO NOT.
  39. tank64rus
    tank64rus 17 October 2017 19: 11
    +2
    Lenin is called one of the prominent thinkers of the 20th century. This is now being said abroad. Unlike our liberal "figures" there, they come to such issues seriously without clicks. Behind him, the two revolutions of the Great October Revolution, and even in Germany without the help of Soviet Russia, the revolution could not have taken place. And the most ingenious is the NEP. Look at China as he took advantage of this experience.
  40. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 19 October 2017 14: 00
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    The author, I agree with you in the assessment of Kiselyov, but I recall that the Soviets, as authorities, arose during the February Revolution. When Lenin was in power and was not close. It seems that during the 1905 revolution, the Council of Deputies was formed in Moscow