The head of the SBU accused PMC "Wagner" of participating in the conflict in the Donbass

The head of the Security Service of Ukraine Vasily Gritsak claims that the Ukrainian special services established the participation of the Wagner Private Military Company (PMC) in conflicts in the Donbas since 2014 and later in Syria.

I want to inform ... that the evidence base of the activities of the Russian military in the Donbass and Syria has been collected ... The activities of the Wagner group ... Campaign leader - Dmitri Utkin

- said Gritsak at a briefing in Kiev on Saturday.

According to him, today 1578 people have been installed - members of the PMCs of Wagner.

For the first time, the activity of the group was recorded from 21 May 2014. The geography of the "Wagner Group" - ORDL, then - Syria. The number of "Wagner groups" in Syria was 1350 people (in the region of Latakia and Homs)

- Gritsak reported

According to V. Gritsak, the SBU has information about the participation of 277 members of the “Wagner Group” both in hostilities in the Donbas and in Syria. At the same time, according to his data, 67 of them died.

Gritsak, in particular, said that the SBU had established the involvement of PMC Wagner in the destruction of IL-76 in the Donbas, the storming of the Lugansk airport and the events in Debaltseve (Donetsk region).

What did the Wagner group do ... shooting down the IL-76 with our paratroopers on board (Ukrainian military transport IL-76 was shot down from an anti-aircraft missile system on the night of 14 on June 2014 of the year when landing at the Luhansk airfield, 40 died Ukrainian soldiers and nine crew members - IF), the storming of the Lugansk airport ... the storming of Debaltseve

- he said.
According to him, 72 militant PMCs took part in the first two operations, of which 15 people were lost.

We know by the names of each. In the storming of Debaltseve 205, Wagner’s militants took part; the casualties are 51 people, we know everyone

- he said.

V. Gritsak clarified that the Ukrainian special services identified 1578 members of PMCs Wagner, including losses.

For the collection of information was used and the agency, and operational and technical measures, and open sources

- Said the head of the SBU.

According to V. Gritsak, Ukraine considers the members of the PMC Wagner as fighters of the armed forces of the Russian Federation.

December 28 2016 of the year adopted amendments to the legislation of Russia, which are allowed to involve non-military personnel in the performance of military tasks regarding the suppression of terrorist activities outside Russia. At the same time, such persons are considered to be those who perform the duties of military service ... thus, with 28.12.2016, we consider the members of Wagner’s private military campaign as military personnel

- explained the head of the SBU.

He said that the SBU had written a notice of suspicion to the head of the Wagner PMC D.Utkin.

Our investigators issued a notice of suspicion for Utkin ... Let's give it to the General Prosecutor’s Office of Ukraine on Monday, we hope that the GPU will support us

- said V. Gritsak.

The head of the SBU did not disclose the article on which D.Utkin’s suspicion was issued. He also noted that the data on the "Wagner Group" of the Security Service of Ukraine transfers the special services of Europe and other countries, given this "private army" can be used "to destabilize the situation anywhere in the world."

The head of the SBU said that on October 19, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry together with the Ministry of Information Policy in Brussels will hold a special briefing on the "Wagner campaign," reports Interfax-AVN

Comments

[Zibelew]

Maybe not PMCs, but the Cheka? And what is crime? What is the reason for the noise? Surely they according to documents passed under other names. Which, of course, does not change their essence. A lot of cynicism (as from Western partners), with wolves live on howl like a wolf. The Wagner group also needs to organize PMCs “Beethoven” and “Mozart” or better “Glinka” and “Shostakovich”.

[cniza]

Just musical aesthetes, well, let them bring their evidence, or like the owners - "we have, but it's secret."

[210ox]

It will be necessary for these "aesthetes" to perform "Requiem" .... Well, the fact that different PMCs take part from all sides is the "Open Secret".

Quote: cniza

Just musical aesthetes, well, let them bring their evidence, or like the owners - "we have, but it's secret."

[Arzoo]

Is the song about the Buryat cavalry over already?

[Thrall]

What Wagner ... Himself the Darkest will soon be in Kiev!

[NIKNN]

Well, whatever one may say, I love these brothers for some reason, it's a pity to leave ...
https://ok.ru/video/329678131511?fromTime=5 или это https://ok.ru/video/21334592072?fromTime=4 Ну разе не чудо...?.. давайте любить себя и тогда и все будут добрыми и любимыми...

[Shurik70]

Even if they are now telling the truth, then this PMC can only be applauded; they work very effectively.
And the accusations - doesn’t the APU itself attract mercenaries (primarily Georgians)?

[kapitan92]

Quote: Shurik70

And the accusations - doesn’t the APU itself attract mercenaries (primarily Georgians)?

The day before, the independent consulting company Center for Political Information (CPI) published a report on the activities of private military companies (PMCs). One of the sections of the report is devoted to the role of PMCs and foreign instructors in the conflict in Ukraine.

According to experts of the Center, in different periods the total number of foreign military presence in the south-east of Ukraine from the pro-Kiev forces amounted to 5 thousand people.
Representatives of the militia spoke about the presence of foreign specialists and mercenaries from the very beginning of the conflict. For example, according to the militia headquarters, from April 22 to July 13, 2014, the total losses of foreigners in the Donbass amounted to 330 people. In particular, the Polish PMC ASBS Othago lost 139 people, the American PMC Asademi (until 2009 was known as Blackwater) - 125 people.

[Mimoprohodil]

militia representatives said

But why did you forget the Polish Negro mercenaries?

[kapitan92]

They talked on a mov and mowed down under hohlomanov. Although, in a country where everything is commanded, except for the borderlands, it does not matter.

[sgazeev]

Quote: 210ox

It will be necessary for these "aesthetes" to perform "Requiem" .... Well, the fact that different PMCs take part from all sides is the "Open Secret".

Quote: cniza

Just musical aesthetes, well, let them bring their evidence, or like the owners - "we have, but it's secret."

She didn’t die Ukraine under Frederic Chopin.

[Baloo]

Quote: sgazeev

Shche did not die Ukraine

Puppy died ????

[ID90]

open secret.

[pvv113]

There is evidence, only the composer is different

[Dr. Hub]

And in the Crimea they flew like that.

[zloybond]

there is nothing secret, but from the fact that they are poked like meat into all holes - that's right. But people go there - they know that this is not free bread. Not from a good life they go there.

[Squelcher]

Freedom is the right to choose.
Consulting fate with fate!
Whom to love for what we die.
Why mercilessly spend your candle!
These are free people and respect your choice! They did not go to crime; they did not go to the bank as security guards or collectors.

[vovanpain]

Quote: Zibelew

What is the reason for the noise?

And the noise of Tagiryan is simple! Yesterday and the day before yesterday we pulled out two witnesses for the Malaysian Boeing, and they’re falling off, and what a sho we are? We ourselves can throw a show.

[cniza]

It looks like there will be big trade with the USA.

[vovanpain]

Quote: cniza

It looks like there will be big trade with the USA.

And this is Victor, and the bidding began and the devil knows what we will not hear, the Buryat regiments were already there, the Altai equestrian divers with a chebureshka, too, now they were drawn to the music.

[cniza]

Yeah, soon the symphony orchestra will “play”.

[vovanpain]

Quote: cniza

soon the symphony orchestra will “play”.

[Nickname]

Something like the anthem of an independent .........

[pvv113]

The theme is the same

[Baloo]

Quote: vovanpain

Buryat regiments were already there, Altai horse divers with a chebureshka too, t

Chukchi underwater paratroopers are pulled in the maximum stealth mode. Soon banderlog kerdyk.

[NIKNN]

Quote: vovanpain

We ourselves can throw a show.

Yes, the meaning is that ... ??? .. And so it is true, the pensioner himself is a military man, I don’t have pensioners, the Chechen participants are two ... they work as loaders, for happiness chtoli? you need to live like that .. you also need to feed the children, my military service, is not in demand, the pilot is long, and he would have gone along the coast too ... suddenly the motherland will need ...

[tomket]

Quote: NIKNN

and would go too

But are you not afraid of losing citizenship of the Russian Federation retroactively in case of what?

[Finches]

Dmitry Anatolyevich is right - really idio.t, this Gritsak! However, the show is being run by nobody and nothing ... The former personal guard of the chocolate oligarch today covers all smuggling in the East of Ukraine and the implementation of the Minsk agreements or any normalization of the situation at all, this is a collapse for this Gritsak and his ilk, including Petsu!

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Zibelew

The Wagner group also needs to organize PMCs “Beethoven” and “Mozart” or better “Glinka” and “Shostakovich”.

And there will come Khokhlam Chopin. Full.

[Pete mitchell]

I think the "strongest army of Europe" can’t stand such music, well, and figs with it.

It’s very desirable for me to hear when the Russian Themis starts sending out data on mercenaries in Europe and a fan to local news agencies? Mercenary is prohibited everywhere and this is a serious argument. Better yet, remind them all: mercenaries have no rights, the Geneva Convention however ..

[Mebius8]

“Shostakovich” from the retirees of the Mossad)))

[already a Muscovite]

It’s necessary that there would be the Shainsky PMC ... And even cooler the Kotyonochkin PMC ... What would they be afraid of ... tsuko ....

[svp67]

According to him, 72 militant PMCs took part in the first two operations, of which 15 people were lost.

They clearly have problems with a consensus opinion. How can one politician declare that they have one of the strongest armies in Europe, and tens and hundreds of “PMC employees” beat her

[volodya]

Quote: svp67

According to him, 72 militant PMCs took part in the first two operations, of which 15 people were lost.

They can’t count their own! And they take the strangers to count!

[svp67]

Quote: volodya

They can’t count their own! And they take the strangers to count!

We can offer them a CHANGE. We give them a list of their lads who fought in the Chechen wars, and they give us this ...
And Panan Gritsak’s, clearly something with logic

I want to inform ... that the evidence base of the activities of the Russian military in the Donbass and Syria has been collected ... The activities of the Wagner group ... Campaign leader - Dmitri Utkin

He talks about what the military? Something I do not remember, what would the members of PMCs be called that. they are all there EMPLOYEES ...

[Komsomol]

Well, this understatement got meaningfully mysterious, and it doesn’t matter which side. Well, you know, call each of them, or else you look like verbiage. I know, but I won’t say Yavlinsky, I remember, it’s always said so meaningfully. guess later, they really know something, or not ...

[poquello]

Quote: Komsomol

Well, this understatement got meaningfully mysterious, and it doesn’t matter which side. Well, you know, call each of them, or else you look like verbiage. I know, but I won’t say Yavlinsky, I remember, it’s always said so meaningfully. guess later, they really know something, or not ...

Well, what do you not understand? Putin printed on a 3D printer in the amount of 72 copies, he took Debaltseve, the airport and Syria, the photos were transferred to the interpol - because they are afraid that this group will capture the Baltic states, the United States and Europe

[You Vlad]

Quote: poquello

Putin printed on a 3D printer in the amount of 72 copies, he took Debaltseve, the airport and Syria, the photo was transferred to the interpol

The photo is already there

[captain]

But what, Americans and other representatives of Western civilization can create PMCs and fight their members anywhere, but we can not? Everything that is done for the good of the state should be welcomed in Russia. Good luck to you guys.

[cniza]

And no one needs to be asked about this ... let them see how many PMCs on the side are junted.

[APASUS]

Quote: cniza

let them see how many PMCs on the side of the junta

But they don’t want to see this, they don’t need it. They have already been assigned the culprits three years in advance

Do you recognize? Report from Mariupol: "Out of my face! Out of my face please!"

[papas-57]

"The SBU has information about the participation of 277 members of the" Wagner group "in hostilities in the Donbass." So what? PMC of 277 defeated the strongest army of Geyropa? Funny for everyone. Although this is our PMC, and not American, so everything can be.

[izya top]

Yes, this kid only today heard this word on ren-tv ... and here is the result maybe in the SBU to pound him, they say, a hidden Separ, watching tv achressora?

[WUA 518]

Maybe again he mixed up Wagner?

[kg pv]

And in the original, the music is better suited for juntas.

[NKT]

Hmm ..... and the Bandera who fought in Chechnya, killed and tortured our children, can also be considered an APU?

[Alexander Ra]

Like "Hold the thief!" - criminals want to call others criminals. In general, the escape of "Ukraine" to Europe is separatism, but they are clever, calling Donbas separatists. Separatism with autoimmune aggression (term from biology). We ourselves are not healthy, having centrifugal tendencies.

[XXXIII]

Here they are the Varangians of Little Russia ....
How it all began!!!

[Analyst 1973]

Quote: XXXIII

Here they are the Varangians of Little Russia ....
How it all began!!!

Well this is PMCs well its ON! These helicopters knocked down with socks, mines were kicked off their feet back to Karachun! Animals! Their main name was Lynx under a scatter shop! In short, a secret fur farm cooked and threw back in Soviet times! Putin is like that, he was preparing everything back then against the Ukrainians! Here!

[anjey]

and how many western PMCs are in Ukraine? Americans, Canadians, Poles, Georgians, etc., etc. like dogs not cut in our former territory of our common state, what can I talk about ...

[Vladimir K.]

Even if so, what is the problem? PMCs were originally created by Western countries precisely so that they could have an influence in various conflicts directly (almost directly), “deftly” circumventing international law (it would not be remembered by night!). Ours have adopted their experience and with the help of structures such as this PMC, protect the interests of Russia abroad of our country. If it weren’t for the conflict in the Donbass (do not think that I’m happy with him!), NATO troops would already be digging in, creating bases and participating in exercises near the current Russian-Ukrainian border.

[Herculesic]

The only thing that is true here is that this PMC really suffers great losses in Syria, unfortunately, I do not want to be a gossip, but rumors from a tenth source, alas, were confirmed.

[gridasov]

People need to be protected! This means that private military organizations must work with private military developers of advanced military equipment. Only in this way can people be included in that part of the operation where they will be guaranteed a field combat advantage. Wall-to-wall times must be a thing of the past. To do this, you need to understand that the use of aviation or armored vehicles is not always possible for various types of operations, which means that you need to have tactical weapons of such scale and various devices that correspond to the tasks of the operation itself and its scale. In general, you need to think about how to win without loss. It seems that everyone understands this, but practically nothing is being done. For some reason, an example is always taken from other countries and their armies. It would be worth the insurance indemnity for the death of a fighter of several million "green" then they would start thinking about their lives.

[Belyash]

As I understand it, some kind of wagner are mercenaries like the ones who fought in Chechnya. And who pays them?

[Gransasso]

Quote: Belyash

As I understand it, some kind of wagner are mercenaries like the ones who fought in Chechnya. And who pays them?

Prigogine pays

[Belyash]

I see, thanks

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Belyash

As I understand it, some kind of wagner are mercenaries like the ones who fought in Chechnya. And who pays them?

Rabinovich! And what kind of mercenaries fought in Chechnya? There were definitely mercenaries? And they say that there fighters for free Ichkeria fought. Well, what circumcised. And that’s it.

[Herculesic]

Belyash, look at the language, these are not militants, but those who are fighting against militants and terrorists, helping the same Syrian troops!

[vovanpain]

Quote: Belyash

And who pays them?

Rabinovich, jack of all trades

[rpek32]

Quote: Belyash

As I understand it

it’s hard with your mental activity. do not strain, there is nothing to strain

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: rpek32

Quote: Belyash

As I understand it

it’s hard with your mental activity. do not strain, there is nothing to strain

Belyash was tortured ... Belyash is good in a frying pan ... and on the internet, Belyash has nothing to do.

And, yes ... Belyash ... update the training manual, son. Old frayed already, you understand how freshly washed glass

[Baloo]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Tortured Belyash ... Belyash is good in a pan

As a champion in eating bilash, let me fix you up. Bilyash is good after the pan, especially if you add a little spoonful of rich broth or sour cream to the center.

[Awaz]

Ukrainians are always late, trying to get into the mainstream, showing everyone their stupidity.

[evil partisan]

Like this:

[Baloo]

Quote: wicked partisan

Like this:

Are you right? Wire the beggar, otherwise he always confuses everything with a hangover.

[assa67]

Quote: NKT

Hmm ..... and the Bandera who fought in Chechnya, killed and tortured our children, can also be considered an APU?

how can you! these are patriots! .. hero-bandera, lyashko-pedophile-an advocate of the interests of the people ... the list goes on ... I can’t stop wondering how the whole nation can be brainwashed ????

[samoletil18]

The USA itself is breathing, and when we act democratically, as their senior partner, we are so unhappy with something

[Belyash]

Well, if private mercenaries, without the flag of the country and without stripes - does it mean militants?
They have nothing to do with any country.

[Herculesic]

Belyash -you again provoke a rude answer? You know how, during the war, reconnaissance groups went behind enemy lines, leaving awards, documents, in short, all that could identify them? So, this is our vanguard in the fight against terrorism! !! I hope you get it? ???

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Herkulesich

in short, all that could identify them?

Plus

[evil partisan]

Quote: Herkulesich

Belyash -you again provoke a rude answer?

Don’t waste time on it, Herculesych. He is whitish with kittens. .

[XXXIII]

And who are the fighters?

[NKT]

Well, how small you are. Everyone who, at the invitation of the official government of Syria, is within the law, regardless of who is dressed in what and calls himself. Those without permission, those militants, bandits, aggressors, etc.

[fif21]

Quote: Belyash

private mercenaries, without the flag of the country and without stripes - does this mean militants?

I can understand the Ukrainians who do not understand what a contract for a certain job is. But then you are a person living in a capitalist country with developed private property, you must understand the difference between a militant and a wage worker. War is work! Heavy, dirty, dangerous.

[Analyst 1973]

Quote: fif21

Quote: Belyash

private mercenaries, without the flag of the country and without stripes - does this mean militants?

I can understand the Ukrainians who do not understand what a contract for a certain job is. But then you are a person living in a capitalist country with developed private property, you must understand the difference between a militant and a wage worker. War is work! Heavy, dirty, dangerous.

And it smells!

[Best]

Quote: zloybond

there is nothing secret, but from the fact that they are poked like meat into all holes - that's right. But people go there - they know that this is not free bread. Not from a good life they go there.

It is hard to agree with you. At the hospital, they quietly, silently handed the order and wrote off to retirement. But still in critical moments I feel the finger on the trigger. And he would go again, not for money, not for any other reward, only his health no longer allows. Please do not equal on my own.

[fif21]

So Wagner PMCs are militants, and PMCs are the United States Greystone, Academia, Poland PMC ASBS Othado, PMC England Halo Trust doves of peace? The number, names and surnames, losses, and successful and unsuccessful operations of western PMCs are known, I emphasize! Working!, And not fighting in Ukraine. That is the whole essence of PMCs - they are hired workers who are not military personnel of the state. So, that can not show anything PMC "Wagner" Ukraine.

[gridasov]

I will allow you to correct that PMCs are a modern and effective form of using military combat units. I will not describe all the complex advantages of this form.

[Skifotavr]

Forgot about the connecting rod

[Holoy]

There are no PMCs in Russia. The law does not provide.

[LeonidL]

From the speech of the next prophet Kukuev, it turns out that the Donbass was not “occupied” by the Russian Army, but by some commercial private enterprise, numbering about one and a half thousand people? And then these one and a half thousand drove the crowds of the Ukrainian Wehrmacht and Ukrainian Waffen SS from Illovaysk to Debaltseve? Moreover, the well-known PMCs really "worked" on the ukakain side! But where does Russia then become an aggressor? We started talking already!

[Analyst 1973]

Gritsak worked along the way in the personnel department at Wagner!

[tasha]

I am convinced that the interests of Russia abroad should not be protected by PMCs.
"Are we Americans?"

[Hurricane70]

The data on the PMC losses caused by this tusk are too much ..... With such losses this would not be a company, but a start-up cooperative ... PMCs are not infantry in the trenches!

[thunderstorm]

[quote] [/ quote] On December 28, 2016, amendments to Russian legislation were adopted, which are allowed to involve non-military personnel in military tasks related to the suppression of terrorist activities outside of Russia. Moreover, such persons are considered to be those who perform the duties of military service ... thus, from December 28.12.2016, XNUMX, we consider members of the Wagner private military campaign as military personnel of the armed forces of the Russian Federation
- explained the head of the SBU.
Directly admitted to terrorist activities!

[Galan]

The activities of PMCs in Syria cannot be widely covered in the media, otherwise the SBU, as a monkey with glasses, will try on this activity for itself.