The newest Mi-XNUMHUB is ready for mass production.

Rostvertol Rostov Helicopter Production Complex launches new training helicopter Mi-28UB into mass production, reports press office The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation with reference to the Deputy Minister Yuri Borisov.

About this Borisov told reporters in Rostov-on-Don following a visit to the helicopter complex.

According to him, “the first eight helicopters, which the Defense Ministry will receive in 2017, are planned to be sent for training of crews to military units in Pushkin, Korenovka and Torzhok”.

During the company visit, the deputy minister got acquainted with the production facilities and workshops where Mi-28H “Night Hunter” combat helicopters are built, as well as the heaviest Mi-26 helicopter in the world.

Mi-28UB is a combat training version of the Mi-28Н helicopter. The machine is equipped with an integrated complex of onboard electronic equipment.

"The use of this complex with the use of digital cartographic information makes it possible to effectively search, detect, recognize and destroy ground and air targets, determine their coordinates and issue target designation to other helicopters, as well as to ground and air command posts," the military department explained.

Comments

[Thrall]

Mi-28 on the background of Moscow City looks good

[The_lancet]

Perfect original

Pathetic copy

Night Hunter

Should it be scary? Not convinced?)

[Muvka]

In general, it never looks like this squalor.

[The_lancet]

I want to hear about the successes of your Mi-28 helicopter, if any

[Thrall]

Quote: The_Lancet

I want to hear about the successes of your Mi-28 helicopter, if any

When was the last time you confessed, my son?

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: The_Lancet

I want to hear about the successes of your Mi-28 helicopter, if any

Didn't you try to read bulletins from Syria?

[Pete mitchell]

pasha , those with the analysis are very bad, but the reports are boring. They even ask the president for briefings with pictures. Yes, most do not represent where Syria

[bouncyhunter]

Hello tramp! Such should be sent to Syria - at the same time relatives will learn geography, having received a funeral.

[Pete mitchell]

Pavel, I'm afraid that expanding the Arlington Cemetery is the most effective way to study geography by the Americans, which is sad

[bouncyhunter]

Sadly, I do not argue. But our guilt is not there.

[Muvka]

For God's sake. Your coalition with Apaches and 60 countries has been fighting ISIS for several years in Syria, and the territory under its control has only increased. But Russia came with Mi-28/24/35/8 and Ka-52 and only snot remained from ISIS. This is a success!

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Successes - for example, Syria, a dozen such helicopters and several dozen aircraft completely changed the course of the war with ISIS terrorists, which is supported by everyone and the whole US ...
Where are the successes of Apache?

[Soran]

Hey hey don't run into brave American warriors.
Apaches have successful work against peaceful weddings and hospitals.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Where are the successes of Apache?

in the movies of americos !!!

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: The_Lancet

I want to hear about the successes of your Mi-28 helicopter, if any

here you are right, we do not stick our nose around the world "in the name of democracy"

[Soran]

No matter how good Apache is, more than 28 boxes of beer / cognac / vodka get into the Mi-10 trunk :)

[Lex.]

The Ka-52 is still cooler, especially its naval version with a 100 km radar

[Andrey K]

The_lancet:

... I want to hear about the successes of your Mi-28 helicopter, if any ...

Want is not harmful
Work hard yourself, and even better - raise your fifth point and Alga, forward to the theater, where the Mi-28 is used
I assure you, your impressions will be provided

[bouncyhunter]

In fairness, I note that the 28th was designed specifically as an answer to Apache. But for the words about

Quote: The_Lancet

Perfect original

и

Quote: The_Lancet

Pathetic copy

I would correct the portrait for some ...

[The_lancet]

designed exactly as an answer to Apache

only 20 years late from him
Kamov Ka-52 Alligator is much more interesting

I would correct the portrait for some ...

You can insert other images of the helicopter. What's the difference?
And what to edit? All his photos are the same

[Sensatus]

Quote: The_Lancet

only 20 years late from him

And the successes of the one who was not too late to lead weakly, what did everyone ask you about? What are you jumping off the topic?
And then on paper and on the couch are all the heroes.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: The_Lancet

only 20 years late from him

Maybe. Development went in parallel and then happened to us .. democracy.

[Titsen]

Quote: The_Lancet

only 20 years late from him

And we don’t have to rush!

We are mattress hegemons !!!!!!

[not main]

Quote: The_Lancet

designed exactly as an answer to Apache

only 20 years late from him

Almost true. That's just Apache created as a response to the Mi-24. And before that, Hugh Cobra was happy!

[rocket757]

Apache is certainly a great fighter ... in real life there is a teacher / student. Mi and Ka are students, we can apprentices. What's next, a competition or a battle ... as for me, they measured their tails and are good!
I do not want to repeat the "measurement" as in the T 34 and Panther ... and she couldn’t, the world for VERY MANY people just ended !!!

[Pete mitchell]

"Pitiful copy" say. LancetThe combat charter of the American army is a miserable copy of the ideas of Moltke and Clausewitz, do you even know who these gentlemen are? It’s not me who invented it, it’s taught in American War Colleges, do you know who they teach there? Read the source.
Apache machine is decent, although not without flaws. Where any American technology is inferior to Soviet / Russian - in terms of the required support, Apache is no exception.

In general, the Lord is present and the admins in particular - the message Lanceta seems to me to be some kind of perversion: to go to the forum where one half are desperate Slavophiles and the other are unapproachable Americanophobes, and instead of offering the Thought for discussion, what the forum implies is unworthy to spoil the air.
Opinion is always worthy of respect, but don't spoil the air

[Don]

Quote: The_Lancet

Pathetic copy

Both helicopters themselves are comparable in characteristics, and our Alligator is perhaps even better. Unmatched your Apache makes the Helfaire rocket. Our Whirlwind and Attack cannot be exactly compared to it, unfortunately. And in general, we have not yet created third-generation anti-tank missiles. Work has been ongoing for a long time, but so far it has not been possible with an active homing head.

[Arkon]

Are there any statistics on the effectiveness of the use of homing missiles against missiles with control? And then vague doubts torment me ...

[Berkut24]

In the USA, they are no longer able to do anything perfect. Everything has to be finished up for decades for crazy money. Therefore, American manufacturers now evasively say not “airplane” or “helicopter”, but “multifunctional platform”.
By the way, how many of your "perfect originals" are lying around the Middle East? One of them, as I recall, in Iraq was shot down with a cartridge from a Bedouin rifle. Then the US special forces were forced to eliminate the fallen misunderstanding.

[Olfred]

I would rather say that you are the "perfect original" of the Internet troll

[Komsomol]

But how do they differ? I mean, isn’t it easier to immediately teach helicopter pilots in military vehicles?

[bouncyhunter]

The fact that in the UB version the control is duplicated.

[NEXUS]

I'm interested, and when will the KA-52 training be released into the series?

[bouncyhunter]

Hi Andrey!

Quote: NEXUS

KA-52 training when in the series then let?

Does it make sense? In it, and so, both crew members can equally perform all functions, full dubbing.

[NEXUS]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Hi Andrey!

Hello Pasha.

Quote: bouncyhunter

Does it make sense? In it, and so, both crew members can equally perform all functions, full dubbing.

To educate young people how are you going? There Milevtsy, in addition to NM, also planed UB.

[bouncyhunter]

Andryukha, I’m not a flyer even once (simulators do not count). But if there is a complete duplication, then for which vegetable is the educational version? Maybe one of the helicopter pilots will enlighten?

[NEXUS]

Quote: bouncyhunter

But if there is a complete duplication, then for which vegetable is the educational version?

That is, you propose to delay combat vehicles for training?

[bouncyhunter]

Man, if there is an abbreviation UB - this implies both functions of this rotorcraft. And the Ka-52 does not have such markings, which means its full use in both qualities. After all, in Lipetsk, helicopter pilots also study at them?

[donavi49]

So Milevtsev had a problem - the second set of controls did not interfere and they ignored him. When delivering parts, this led to difficulties in retraining and maintaining qualifications (the instructor will not be able to correct the error - just point to it).

Therefore, the MO urgently ordered a training version - it was done. 8 first cars this year.
In parallel with her, work was underway on the M version - which, from simply screwing up the radar and debugging, actually turned into a new helicopter, for a large price list.

Total UB - 8 this year. NM - while they are in the bright future, the car has yet to test, refine, etc.

Ka-52 - no training version needed. This is decided by choosing the appropriate software package and all. The instructor has exactly the same data on the ILS / MFI, the same controls and can correct the error not only in word, but also in deed.

[NEXUS]

Quote: donavi49

Ka-52 - no training version needed. This is decided by choosing the appropriate software package and all.

Perhaps. Just as I said above, delaying a military unit to train youth is not rational in my opinion. Moreover, the training version is a priori cheaper.
Although ... I can assume that maybe the Alligator is essentially a command vehicle, maybe already experienced pilots are planting it. Then maybe a really training Alligator is useless.

[donavi49]

So, this is a management issue in army aviation. No, not cheaper. Well, that is, you can throw out the radar, some of the equipment - turning the helicopter from UB to U. But why? Then you still have to fly the clock on a combat machine in order to learn what they threw from U. +/- the same money.

28UB has a slightly different story - there is basically what will happen on NM, just in older and primitive forms (similar to 28Н). And UB is ordered for the fleet of 100 helicopters already delivered and future deliveries.

[Piramidon]

Quote: NEXUS

To educate young people how are you going? There Milevtsy, in addition to NM, also planed UB.

And how are they trained in heavy aircraft? Can still train Tu-95, Tu-22, IL-76 to build? If the Ka-52 already has a dual control system, then why fence the garden.

[donavi49]

Obviously because, as a combat trainer, you don’t need NM chips - for which you have to pay money. And NM will be in the bright future - and UB already this year.

[Alekseits]

Probably the difference in equipment. On UB simpler, in the place of the student installed devices only related to piloting.

[donavi49]

Not. A few years ago abandoned the venture. Initially, HM was just H with a radar bolted on and a couple of chips. Now it is a different helicopter. Even outwardly distinguishable.

Therefore, the entire program for screwing the radar to H - was stabbed in favor of the more expensive HM.

In army aviation there will be 100 + old N. Somewhat UB. And new NM. True, it is quite realistic that, against the backdrop of a reduction, the MO will conclude a contract on 40 old 28Н, and NM will go on a teaspoon because it is much more expensive.

[rocket757]

The only and not repeated !!!
But measured by their ... ego, pfe, what stupidity!
PS We didn’t know if Ali forgot ... each sandpiper praises .... will you continue?

[Livonetc]

Quote: The_Lancet

Perfect original

Pathetic copy

Night Hunter

Should it be scary? Not convinced?)

Persuaded at once in Korea and Vietnam.
You should not be convinced once again. IMHO
However, your business.

[XXXIII]

The first flight of the Mi-24P Russian Air Force September 19, 1969
Start of operation 1971

A pathetic copy!

The first flight of the AH-64D Apache on September 30, 1975
Commencement of operation on January 26, 1984
The main attack helicopter of the U.S. Army since the mid-1980s. In 2014, it is the second most widespread attack helicopter in the world [6] after the Soviet Mi-24.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Livonetc

Persuaded at once in Korea and Vietnam.
You should not be convinced once again. IMHO
However, your business.

But about the participation of "Apaches" in Vietnam and Korea, I would like to know more. In the 45th they did not fire at Hitler’s bunker?

[rocket757]

Flown in Vietnam ... Bell ** some kind of uniform dragonfly.

[WapentakeLokki]

This refers to all our Air Force. The leadership of the USSR was so struck by US aviation that in Vietnam (and before that in Korea) there was a real hunt for technology (it was unsuccessful and hijacked F-111 and URS Sparrow and Sidewander and airborne radars and helicopters, etc. .)

[rocket757]

And they chased, and studied, and the asymmetric answer was - unpleasant, but not the worst, that they lagged behind ... they studied and managed to give a decent answer! And then they chased after our secrets ... that means they studied well, since they caught up and surpassed.
They didn’t climb towards us with their fists! And itched, for sure. AFRAID.
Praise and honor to our ancestors. and it’s a pity that such goats ... eventually came to power !!!

[Livonetc]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: Livonetc

Persuaded at once in Korea and Vietnam.
You should not be convinced once again. IMHO
However, your business.

But about the participation of "Apaches" in Vietnam and Korea, I would like to know more. In the 45th they did not fire at Hitler’s bunker?

Yes, even Chin Gach Guk the Great Serpent:
And in World War II, you want to say that the United States had real military successes in Europe?
Well, yes, carpet bombing they always came out well.
However, in conditions of absolute superiority in the air.
As soon as the porch was specifically cut out and bombing was not encouraging.
About the valiant Israeli falcons will not be in vain.
This was not about a model; a North American comrade felt that we were trying to intimidate our partners.
In fact, in fact, they are the root of everything on the Entoy planet.
Probably the Wright brothers were also Americans.
As for directly what of the helicopters is a copy, and what is not, the comrade above has already posted the data.

[WapentakeLokki]

What about on-board weapons? The same heavy cannon from the BMP (by the way, the BC is two times smaller than on Apache) and the ATGM developed in the 80s of the last century, yeah. I am tormented by vague doubts that we had a wunderwafer and an expensive iron

[rocket757]

With weapons standards.
If Yusovtsi, when comparing, focus on "backward" intelligence systems and a combat computer, some IT flaws ... the combat capabilities are on the level, and IT troubles are compensated by the creativity of our pilots !!!
However, the equipment is being finalized.