British expert: unlike the United States, Russia does not give up

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After the defeat of the boilers and breaking the blockade in Deir-ez-Zor, the victory of the Syrian army, together with the Russian videoconferencing and the Iranian militia, became obvious, it would seem, to everyone. However, in the West, they try not to notice the successes of the Russians, and Trump, within the walls of the United Nations, generally attributed the victory in Syria to his beloved. However, something to be afraid to talk about in The Guardian or Der Spiegel is freely quoted, for example, in Africa. So one of the largest English-language publications - the newspaper New Vision publishes an article by the famous military historian, teacher of the British Royal Military Academy Sandhurst, the author of popular science books, who collaborates with 175 periodicals of 45 countries - Gwinn Dyer, who explains why Russia won in Syria



“This month marks two years since the Russian Air Force was sent to Syria in order to save the collapsing regime of Bashar al-Assad from collapse. In the west, at that time, the opinion was expressed endlessly that Moscow had made a monstrous mistake. "Russia's military actions are a further escalation of the conflict and will only add fuel to the fire of radicalization and extremism," the United States, Britain, France, Germany, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey stated in a joint statement three days after the first Russian bombs were dropped. Angry, stupid Russians supported Assad, bombed the wrong opponent, bombed civilians, and launched a war without end.

Why did the Russians not listen to the recommendations of experts, primarily from the USA, who have more experience in playing wars to Muslims than anyone else? No one likes to be taught by him, but the Russians didn’t enter into any kind of controversy on this subject. They remained calm and continued to do what they were supposed to do. Two years later, they won. “All the conditions are ready for the final stage of the destruction of ISIS in Syria,” said General Alexander Lapin, commander of the Russian forces in Syria, and his words are true. Only certain areas of the cities of Raqqa and Deir-ez-Zour in the east of the country remain under the control of ISIS, and these cities will fall until the end of the year.

All that remains is to return the large enclave around Idlib in northeastern Syria, where an al-Qaeda branch called Jabhat al-Nusra now manages (this organization changes its name almost every month to hide its roots). But the Russians promised Assad to help return this territory as well. "The operation to destroy the ISIL and Jabhat al-Nusra militants in Syria will continue until they are completely and guaranteedly destroyed," General Lapin promised last week. The destruction of al-Nusra will be a large-scale event, but it is quite feasible, as former supporters of this Islamist organization in Turkey and Saudi Arabia, the group was denied support.In fact, the efforts of Russia and Iran to save Assad were so successful that the plan, which seemed incredible before, becomes a reality: all Syria will be re-united under the leadership of Assad, ”writes a British expert.

Having given away the obvious, Sir Gwynn proceeds to the story, and in fact, why Russia won there. “How did the Russians (and their Iranian allies, who provided most of the military support on land) win the war in two years, while the US unsuccessfully and vaguely tried to solve this issue from 2011 year? The Russians won, choosing cold-blooded realism, making a bet on the lesser evil (Assad), and then purposefully focusing on the military victory. The United States, which is equally disgusted with both sides of the conflict (Assad and the Islamists), spent years inventing or finding a third "moderate" force that never existed. Meanwhile, Russia and Iran simply openly supported the Assad regime (the Syrian army was separated from the collapse in a matter of months, when the Russians intervened in 2015, the year). They have been successful, and the States will eventually have to reel and go home.

What did Moscow receive in exchange for its intervention? First and foremost, it prevented the emergence of an Islamist state near its southern borders (about a tenth of the population of Russia is Muslim). In addition, the Russians have demonstrated that they can be a very useful ally for other regimes in distress. Unlike you, you know who, ”Dyer summed up the sad result.

If you discard the stamps about the “evil Assad”, the expert simply retold what our agency wrote about a year ago. In Syria, Russia is not just fighting terrorists, the operation in Syria was a continuation of the Munich speech - speaking openly against the plans of the United States and the West, our country gave hope to many people that the bombers from the “good empire” and the militants gathered by this empire have a counterweight. That same opportunity not to go on the path of Libya.

Shortly before the assassination in 2011, the Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi said: “Is there a law in the world allowing these murders? I will tell you: yes, there is. This is the Law of the Jungle. This is your law and your order. Four months, four months! - you bomb our country, and everyone is afraid to even say words of condemnation. If Russia was still in the world, real Russia, united and great Russia, defending the weak, you would not dare. But it is not, it is not, and you triumph. " In 2011, the country was led by Dmitry Medvedev, who built an "overload" and dreamed of building Russia into a western project. And Russia signed a resolution that allowed NATO to bomb Libya. It will take 6 years and the West screams hysterically - the Russians are back. The Russians, who did not allow them to exterminate their people in the Donbas, defended the Syrians and, piece by piece, create, together with free nations, a new world, where there will be no “chosen nations” who can exterminate peoples in their mood. And the gentlemen from the United States, even from Britain, will have to accept this as a fact.
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  1. +27
    1 October 2017 06: 58
    Nothing strange! When we defeat America, Trump can also attribute himself to victory over it, do not be offended ...
    1. +4
      1 October 2017 09: 49
      Are you personally going to conquer America? Or should others sweat?
      1. +27
        1 October 2017 13: 28
        This is just the case when there is nothing to say, then you need to find fault!
        Sound, then, your thought!
        And this was said in the context that whatever happened the Yankees appropriate everything to themselves! Even a victory over themselves, I think, they too will decide to appropriate themselves.
        If there is anyone ...
      2. +1
        1 October 2017 19: 10
        When there is nothing to say, it is better to remain silent
      3. +2
        1 October 2017 20: 18
        Quote: Captain Nemo
        Are you personally going to conquer America? Or should others sweat?

        But have you already been dragged to sweat?
    2. +9
      1 October 2017 10: 59
      To defeat America, it is necessary to restore order in your country. Corruption and embezzlement put to the wall. But something doesn’t work out with their country or they simply don’t want to.
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      2. +7
        2 October 2017 07: 36
        Quote: Yarik
        Corruption and embezzlement put to the wall.

        Not in the subject line, but nonetheless ...
        Comrades! All these cries about corruption in the ranks of the authorities are an empty idea, no fight will succeed for a number of reasons:
        Did they bring us from the US from the authorities or from Mars? or according to REN TV, are they from rptiloids? NO! These are ours, homegrown! This is us all! Who works where? I’m office, so I don’t buy paper home (for children in kindergarten, etc.), I take it at work. The driver writes off the fuel, the shepherd (I know the topic from the village) - the calves that were born during grazing sells to the left, where can I get a cheap part? a turner on a state-owned machine tool will grind out quietly, like Trofim’s there: "but in our workshop for sharpening pins we have nothing to give to the underground counter ...". We are all dragging whenever possible! Everyone sits and scolds the authorities, but knows the saying: "no matter how much you don’t steal from the state, you won’t return yours." Tell me that in the time of Stalin this was not and all the looters were put on a stake? It’s just that there wasn’t so much information if it weren’t for the Internet, now we would also know 15% of what is happening ... Where did the same “Cotton Mafia” get tired of? But the scope to match the current embezzlers was (burned money, gold hundreds of kilograms)! SAY THEN SAZED! Yes, redistribution, just business. Power in the Kremlin has changed, a wave of arrests has rolled!
        Bottom line: corruption is not something there, behind a high red brick fence, this is our feature! There were always reptiles, everyone drags and makes their way as they can, but having made their way upstairs, they drag twice!
        1. 0
          2 October 2017 12: 41
          here, almost everyone who shouts about corruption - give him a crust, a little power and a weighty signature, and there this will not begin.

          And so I think the forum member will not build a shelter for the orphanage)) And the house is for himself / his wife / mother

          And before his conscience he will find 10 reasons why he can - well, in the end, Putin and Rotenberg and aligarchs - why not steal, since others are tying

          There are nicknames)) corruption fighters are eternal - uh and I would have looked at them in appropriate conditions)

          But alas, it will not work, so you have to read their bright thoughts for all the good versus all the bad

    3. 0
      2 October 2017 12: 37
      It doesn’t matter that the success of the air forces in Syria is spoken in the West. What matters is the sad lesson learned by the terrorists and those who feed them.
  2. +6
    1 October 2017 07: 00
    famous military historian, teacher at the British Royal Military Academy Sandhurst,

    ... one of the few truly experts ... every word is not in the eyebrow, but in the eye ... respect to him ... good
  3. +5
    1 October 2017 07: 17
    If, in 2014, Gazprom convinced the political leadership of the Russian Federation that “flows” would not replace transit through Ukraine, then the article would have been logical. ... Who in Syria is for "their" people - people or "interests" - is far from obvious.
    1. +3
      1 October 2017 09: 04
      Quote: samarin1969
      If, in 2014, Gazprom convinced the political leadership of the Russian Federation that “flows” would not replace transit through Ukraine, then the article would have been logical.

      And you didn’t get the idea that it was from 2014 that it became completely clear that transit through Ukraine, as the only artery, is dangerous for the whole thing ..
      1. +3
        1 October 2017 09: 44
        Quote: svp67
        And you didn’t get the idea that it was from 2014 that it became completely clear that transit through Ukraine, as the only artery, is dangerous for the whole thing ..


        This thought "crossed my mind" to me, but it does not matter. It is important that the leadership of the "Russian Federation" abandoned plans to tightly control the situation on the Russian lands of Ukraine. Instead, they build “streams”. Russia has not yet achieved its goals: both projects, even at the cost of great economic and political concessions, have not replaced the Ukrainian gas pipeline. ... As a result: as in that joke: "it is impossible to agree with the" partners, and it didn’t work out well with the Donetsk team. "
        1. +4
          1 October 2017 12: 12
          Russia has not yet achieved its goals: both projects, even at the cost of great economic and political concessions, have not replaced the Ukrainian gas pipeline. ... As a result: as in that joke: "it is impossible to agree with the" partners, and it didn’t work out well with the Donetsk team. "


          Before drawing conclusions on the flows, let's wait for 19 years.
        2. +2
          1 October 2017 12: 44
          Quote: samarin1969
          Russia has not yet achieved its goals: both projects, even at the cost of great economic and political concessions, have not replaced the Ukrainian gas pipeline.


          Hey. Not yet evening. Not two, but four projects (Tutetsk, southern, SP-2, the power of Siberia) will eventually bury the exhausted transit through the Ruin. Maybe a minuscule will remain, but it will be a minuscule. The Bulgarian “non-brothers”, ready for profit, to lie under anyone, already sensed the possibility, with the introduction of UP, to become a hub and receive dividends on a freebie and immediately changed their tone (although they offered their ports to NATO military bases yesterday).
          1. +2
            1 October 2017 13: 23
            Quote: Lelek
            Hey. Not yet evening. Not two, but four projects (Tutetsk, southern, SP-2, the power of Siberia) will eventually bury the exhausted transit through the Ruin.


            Good day! ... I would be glad to make mistakes in the forecasts .... But for now, Kommersant shouts that there is not enough “flow” power - Miller’s export appetites are growing ... “Siberia” is another market with dubious profitability . ... Ukraine can only be buried by Trump with its LNG facilities. Trump will have enough strength both to force Europe to "eat politically correct gas" and to close the "corruption" "flows" of Gazprom .....
            But the problem with the article is that losing control of Ukraine is a bigger problem for Russia than ISIS and Syria. In Ukraine and Syria, the interests of Russia and the “Russian Federation” diverge greatly .... All respected VO experts are strongly advised to wait for the year 2019. ... They probably know something. wink
            1. 0
              1 October 2017 18: 09
              But the problem with the article is that losing control of Ukraine is a bigger problem for Russia than ISIS and Syria. In Ukraine and Syria, the interests of Russia and "RF" diverge greatly ..


              Do not diverge. Russia does not need all of Ukraine absolutely. Russia is interested in Ukraine within the borders of the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic + Odessa region. Let the EU put the rest on its shoulders and feed it.
  4. +16
    1 October 2017 07: 26
    In 2011, the country was led by Dmitry Medvedev, who built the “overload” and dreamed of embedding Russia in a western project.

    The years of Medvedev's presidency threw Russia back several years ago. It’s good that the prime minister was the GDP, which apparently interfered with Medvedev’s “masturbation”. It is enough to recall 08.08.08. Does anyone think that the introduction of our troops was the willful decision of an iPhone? Today, only "kudrins" and those who are brought up on their ideas believe in friendship with Americans.
    1. 0
      3 October 2017 21: 49
      What, 90 e is not to blame, right? Prigogine’s came up with a new excuse - the dashing Medvedev years ... isn’t it yourself disgusting?
  5. 0
    1 October 2017 07: 51
    There are also smart people in the West who give a real assessment of what is happening in the world! And it pleases that not only notorious gangsters like McCain and his supporters bring information to the whole world about the outrages being done by the USA and its allies, but also normal experts exposing this heinous lie! But Russians never really abandon their own!
  6. +6
    1 October 2017 08: 18
    Let's look at the LDNR, and you can count those whom "Moscow", - passed , this is all those who are sitting under shelling and those who are already in the cemetery.
    And all because of the indecision, weakness of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the fearfulness of administration officials.
    1. +2
      2 October 2017 10: 19
      Quote: atakan
      And all because of the indecision, weakness of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the fearfulness of administration officials.

      What would you suggest? Send troops? To declare a war? Become an official aggressor?
      People are dying, the conflict is smoldering, the matter is no longer in the military field, but in the political.
      A cold head, thoughtful decisions, translational actions - this is what you need to achieve success.
  7. +6
    1 October 2017 08: 39
    It remains to find out who "their" people are or interests ...
    he is capitalism.
    1. +2
      1 October 2017 09: 05
      Quote: Catherine II
      It remains to find out who "their" people are or interests ...

      Well, who is hu, in your opinion?
  8. +4
    1 October 2017 09: 01
    "Constancy" is one of the signs of "excellence". And I wish Russia not to lose it.
  9. +4
    1 October 2017 09: 17
    It’s not even a matter of Russian Muslims, who are 10% .... ISIS would be guaranteed to spread to Central Asia and the massacre would begin! We would receive tens of millions of refugees! Which would have to be fed and somehow equipped ... The problem is insoluble even in theory! But the Kremlin decided it! THERE were crushed ...
    1. +3
      1 October 2017 15: 37
      09.17. Aspid! The Kremlin did not solve the problem, but created it. When the United States came to Afghanistan, poppy fields appeared. We did not interfere. Al Qaeda has grown. We did not interfere with this either. Okay, Saddam refused our help. Although Primakov flew to him. But we supported the war against Libya. When ISIS was formed, Russia did not create its anti-Igil formations. And when the USSR was in the DRA, the United States supported and financed its side. So then ISIS didn’t threaten us? When Assad began to bomb, we also frowned. What about us ?! The price of oil is growing steadily, some goodies! But with the fall in oil prices, Russia, surprisingly began to threaten ISIS? And why didn’t he threaten us before this time? Maybe it's all in our raw material interests? In the advancement of NATO is the fault of Russia. It was Russia that surrendered the countries of the Warsaw bloc, and allowed the union republics to separate. It is we ourselves who created problems that we are now trying to heroically solve.
      1. +1
        2 October 2017 07: 54
        34 region,
        Wow, how deeply you dug up - VD countries, etc.)) Well then, personally, I have complaints from Stalin (I am silent about Nikolashka 2, I'm shaking from him): he gave the Donbass to the Ukrainian SSR; further Khrushchev gave the Crimea; Further General Secretary of the USSR allowed the United States to introduce an unsecured dollar (tales about securing its GDP are already tired), as a world currency that can be printed in any quantity without any consequences; further Gorbachev with his restructuring; etc. etc.
        Well, it would be interesting to read how you would prevent the United States in Afghanistan, Syria, and especially in the fight against ISIS on the territory of other states with an army collapsed after the 90s, and without a military base there.
        1. +1
          2 October 2017 08: 56
          07.54. Koschey! We discard the first part. And how would they influence the USA without having their military bases? Just like our * beloved * USA * influence. Through the support of the opposition. How did the USA drive Russia out of Ukraine? Your army? No. Through the support of opponents of Russia. What and who is stopping Russia from seeking and creating allies?
          1. +1
            2 October 2017 12: 26
            what is in the way? The main mistake of our general secs is the unsecured dollar, like the world currency. an immense amount of money that can be stupidly printed in tons, and which can be spent in any quantity. when we can print rubles in tons without consequences in the form of wild inflation, etc., then it makes sense to talk about the same methods / methods of wagging that the United States uses. in the meantime, you should forget about this practice support, which, incidentally, was in the USSR, when the sold for bucks oil has been influenced in different parts of the world.
            1. +2
              2 October 2017 12: 56
              12.26. Koschey! About a dollar that is not secured, a lie! The dollar is backed by goods, technology and a nasty presence in the banking, political and military sectors. And offer today rubles in any country? How are they quoted there? And what can be purchased for rubles? In Soviet times, the impact on the world was enormous. Not today. But you can influence through dollars. We do not print them! But we sell oil and gas for them, and for some reason they are exported to offshore. Or are there deposits in rubles? I think, if desired, it would be possible to influence the processes in the world. Young Soviet Russia in the 20s was able to. Although she was naked and barefoot. Today, funds are more than enough, but there is no will. hi
              1. +1
                2 October 2017 15: 17
                Quote: Region 34
                About a dollar that is not secured, a lie! The dollar is backed by goods, technology and a nasty presence in the banking, political and military sectors.

                those. GDP. the total US government debt in 2017 is 19.9, the US GDP in 2016 was 18.56 trillion. firstly, you can’t come to the US Treasury and demand from him ... gdp, like De Gaulle gold)) by the way, then he ended up badly because of this. secondly, everything above GDP is ephemeral nothing. thirdly, when did they get this system? under Brezhnev. who is guilty that she has settled in the world, instead of refusing such money or setting conditions - the general secretary of the USSR.
                Quote: Region 34
                In Soviet times, the impact on the world was enormous. Today, no. But you can influence through dollars.

                and how many friends we have left after the collapse of the USSR, of those whom we generously supplied to everyone in a row? mmm ... nobody? well, the former republics of the USSR ... some of them more precisely. all the others fell down right away, and the USSR generously poured money into them (both rubles and bucks). repeat suggest?
                Quote: Region 34
                Young Soviet Russia in the 20s was able to. Although she was naked and barefoot.

                yeah? but I read how she could. yes she was able, including thanks to the most brutal dictatorship. Yes, Stalin made an agrarian country lagging behind at that time (under Alexander 3, on the contrary, we were one of the strongest, but our son was just ... l), an industrial power. Do not remind me at what cost? something I don’t really want to repeat.
                Quote: Region 34
                Today, funds are more than enough, but there is no will.

                The USSR has already tried to surpass the United States in the richer one - and lost miserably. the reason is in the beginning. until all, I repeat - all fin. the system rests on the dollar, no one can act like the United States.
                by the way, why didn’t we climb into Syria before: did they call us? Someone gave us permission to conduct military operations there? or invited, asked for help? or afghan taught nothing? I think a very correct approach: need help? call and say what good you can offer. Assad was able to offer resources + the destruction of a terrorist organization dangerous for Russia.
                but Afghanistan doesn’t really call us, but they don’t refuse there get helpbut they don’t offer anything in return, except “you can build with us, help us, we will say“ thank you. ”and what the hell is it for Russia?
                1. +1
                  2 October 2017 19: 00
                  15.17. Koschey! Here, probably from our comments it will soon be possible to write an article. With regard to GDP, I still agree on other issues; I have a different opinion. hi
                  1. 0
                    5 October 2017 00: 15
                    Quote: Region 34
                    With regard to GDP, I still agree on other issues; I have a different opinion.

                    Do you also have an opinion about gratuitous help?
                    1. 0
                      5 October 2017 11: 54
                      00.15. Setrak! She was relatively free. In reality, she pursued her goals. The point is a simple distribution of money or Kemsky volosts?
                      1. 0
                        5 October 2017 12: 31
                        Quote: Region 34
                        She was relatively free. In reality, she pursued her goals. The point is a simple distribution of money or Kemsky volosts?

                        What is the point of fulfilling international duty? Completely free or for loans that will never be repaid.
          2. +2
            2 October 2017 13: 01
            Quote: 34 region
            What and who is stopping Russia from seeking and creating allies?


            Russia, which has two allies, the "army and navy", is in the distant and deep past. The world has really changed in something - for example, in the fact that without allies, no matter will now burn out.
            What is "cattle isolationism"? These are groans in the spirit of "they are living at our expense in Belarus (Armenia, Serbia, Kyrgyzstan), kindling the gastrointestinal suspense that is typical for the average person, and it’s also, incidentally, racial-Nazi intestinal gas, deepening interethnic contradictions within Russia.
            If not deprived of acting talents, the "Russian worker in the temple" Emelin directly injects himself into a liberal kagal, cultivating a subtle image of a truth-loving peasant who blows his nose into sunflowers, blows his nose, crosses himself on domes and cuts the truth-queen, saying, "right, ruinshtein, the little ones are right, I’m telling you like a Slav, "Panin is an honest man, but simply not seeing the difference between the former parasitism of the Union republics and interstate relations of the modern world.
            This is all pure harm, for this Avakov should award medals! A dozen Shenderovichs will not be able to please as some "official Slavs"!
            What is Serbian love, I learned by reading Croatian sources. It turns out that during Operation Storm, what weapons were the Croat Catholics equipped with? American anti-Orthodox and Russophobian machine gun M-16? Adventist Abrams tanks? “No,” as they said in Baku. Everything was from the warehouses of the western group of forces of the late in the Bose Sovdep.
            Would you be able to love after that?
            What about the sale of the most modern military equipment to Azerbaijan, besides that Armenia is an "ally", and Azerbaijan and Turkey are "the Adyn people are two Iran?"
            Would you be able to trust the Kremlin after Honecker, Najibullah, Rubiks?
            By the way, there is one interesting story, which is not the era of Yeltsin, no, the history of the era of the innocent martyr Nicolas, whose holy king and pictures treat psoriasis, if rubbed on them, and leak with sunflower oil.
            In March 1910, a Korean patriot An Chungin was hanged in Japan. Hanged in prison in Port Arthur, which had departed to Japan after the 1905 war.
            He was during the Russo-Japanese War the commander of a detachment of Korean partisans who fought against the Japanese on the side of Russia. After the defeat of Russia, he fought on his own, then he fled to Russia, and killed the Japanese prime minister in Harbin, which then belonged to Russia (part of the Russian protectorate "Northern Manchuria").
            An is the national hero of the de facto four countries - both Korea, China and the Republic of China, represented by the island of Taiwan. An is a symbol of an uncompromising struggle against Japanese aggression.
            He was issued to the Japanese by Russian authorities. Because the "foreigner."
            The most interesting thing is that the monument to the hero, standing in Vladivostok, was dismantled not so long ago - apparently because the Japanese consul gently hinted to someone that the monument did not belong there.
            Here it’s probably worth recalling how a monument to the Armenian hero Andranik (who, incidentally, was a Russian general) was dismantled in Sochi after the demarche of the Turkish consul.
            Russia has this birth disease.
            Maybe that's why all the attempts of Russian ambassadors and consuls to save this or that Russian monument - whether in Poland, in Hungary, Estonia - invariably fail with a bang?
            That is why in World War I the inhabitants of Austrian Western Ukraine were called Rusyns, Carpathians, and they greeted the Russian army with enthusiasm, and after 30 years they called themselves Ukrainians and already met the same Germans.
            Therefore, "only the army and navy"

            Now it’s clear why America has an army, navy and 50 more loyal allies?
            Amiram Grigorov (s)
            1. +2
              4 October 2017 11: 45
              But really, comrades, there was an intelligible discussion. True, there are more questions than answers :)
  10. SMP
    +1
    1 October 2017 10: 23
    Shortly before the murder in 2011, Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi said: “Is there a law in the world that allows these killings? I will tell you: yes, there is. This is the Law of the Jungle. This is your law and your order. Four months, four months! - you are bombing our country, and everyone is afraid to even say the words of condemnation. If Russia, the real Russia, the united and great Russia, which defended the weak, were still in the world, you would not have dared. But she is not, she is not, and you triumph. ” In 2011, the country was led by Dmitry Medvedev,


    And this is exactly the time when preparations for the Maidan in Kiev in 2013 were in full swing ...

    What does Kiselyov say coincidence? I don’t think so.
  11. +4
    1 October 2017 10: 34
    Gaddafi is a rather complicated story. He was never particularly close to Russia. On the contrary, he jumped into the arms of the West. So he "strangled" him. Medvedev did not play a special role there. Libya is not our ally, respectively, we did not betray him. And for all the "poor" you won’t cry. Syria is a different matter, there are connections, and there is a reason.
    “In 2011, the country was led by Dmitry Medvedev, who was building a“ transshipment ”and wanted to integrate Russia into the Western project. And Russia signed a resolution that allowed NATO to bomb Libya” - Russia did not sign the resolution, Russia did not veto it. The lie is small, but revealing.
    Today we can say a liberal government needs to be ruled a little "to the right." It is necessary to return the state to the economy and “shorten” democratic procedures. And do not care about the reaction of the West.
    1. +3
      1 October 2017 12: 15
      It is necessary to return the state to the economy
      - nonsense, the state’s share is already under 70%, much more?
      1. +1
        1 October 2017 17: 03
        Quote: Astoria
        - nonsense, the state’s share is already under 70%, much more?

        What is 70%? This is 30% of GDP generated by companies with state participation (mind you, with participation, and not 100% owned) + 40% contribution to the GDP of budgets of all levels. This is all cunning. Each economist has his own formula for calculating GDP. Economic management is completely different. This vision of prospects in each subject and the alignment of the standard of living in them not with subsidies, but with the development of production, not expecting when it itself, like mold, forms and grows there. This is, so to speak, offhand without details. The liberal government, on the other hand, is working out financial leverage, under which the tourism industry is sagging, then aviation goes bankrupt, or the dominance of imports kills its own production. At the same time, private banks manage to bankrupt strategic production. Although for you it can also be nonsense.
        1. +1
          1 October 2017 21: 20
          What is 70%? This is 30% of GDP generated by companies with state participation (mind you, with participation, and not 100% owned) + 40% contribution to the GDP of budgets of all levels. This is all cunning. Each economist has his own formula for calculating GDP. Economic management is completely different. This vision of prospects in each subject and the alignment of the standard of living in them not with subsidies, but with the development of production, not expecting when it itself, like mold, forms and grows there. This is, so to speak, offhand without details. The liberal government, on the other hand, is working out financial leverage, under which the tourism industry is sagging, then aviation goes bankrupt, or the dominance of imports kills its own production. At the same time, private banks manage to bankrupt strategic production. Although for you it can also be nonsense.
          a lot of text laughing if you do not solve the issues of corruption, fair trial, transparency at all levels, all your thoughts on the prospects are not worth a damn, be it at least 99,9%. It seems to be an adult, but all believe in a good king. lol
          1. +1
            1 October 2017 21: 42
            Quote: Astoria
            if you do not solve the issues of corruption, fair trial, transparency at all levels, all your thoughts about the prospects are not worth a damn

            Show me the countries where these issues are resolved. To one degree or another, all these phenomena are present in any country. Yes, you don’t need to sing songs about the good king. The king, in general, is not at all kind. The state’s administration of the economy is needed, rather, so that it’s not controlled by strangers “thoroughly honest and transparent”.
            1. 0
              4 October 2017 11: 48
              I agree. Ideally, the state is an arbiter. But not a player. Or the only player on the field. Or so, or that way.
  12. 0
    1 October 2017 11: 01
    Oh, what naive commentators!
    Don't you understand that this article is not a compliment, but an indication of the weak side? Well, even though Putin wasn’t subjugated to the “Russian land, they were taken away from 2014, otherwise now different Ukrainian specialists would accept coffins
    1. +2
      1 October 2017 12: 21
      Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
      would take coffins now

      Any power is constantly at war with somebody ... so it was, is and will be ... Russia and now accepts the coffins of heroes ...
      1. 0
        1 October 2017 17: 30
        Quote: samarin1969
        Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
        would take coffins now

        Any power is constantly at war with somebody ... so it was, is and will be ... Russia and now accepts the coffins of heroes ...

        36 coffins and several thousand different things
    2. +1
      1 October 2017 17: 45
      Well, yes, the local Russians are buried right there in the Donbas, the coffins are not being taken anywhere.
      1. -1
        1 October 2017 17: 55
        Quote: Mikhail_Zverev
        Well, yes, the local Russians are buried right there in the Donbas, the coffins are not being taken anywhere.

        Local Russians politely supported the Maidan, I say, like a man who lived in Ukraine a year after the events.
        1. +1
          1 October 2017 18: 52
          And who then fights with the militants of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for three years? Buryats?
          1. 0
            1 October 2017 19: 27
            Quote: Mikhail_Zverev
            And who then fights with the militants of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for three years? Buryats?

            In the summer of 2014, the ratio was 40 ths. VSU + MIA + SBU + NG (in fact, all power structures of Ukraine in the then full force acted on Donbass) against 2 ths. DNR members.
            Dva.Tysyachi.Chelovek.Na gigantic area.Apposite 40 thousand professional security officials and volunteers with experience of the Maidan and peacekeeping missions in Iraq, Afghanistan and Congo (security forces) + Transdniestria, Yugoslav and Caucasian wars (volunteers). to take the cities of the DPR / LNR as checkers. And it is no wonder that their forces were very stretched, while the forces of the DPR / LPR were compressed.
            In August, a grandiose military parade was held in Kiev on 2014, to which equipment and personnel from the entire ZBD were dragged.
            Then there was Minsk, which did not give Kiev the opportunity to regroup and start a new offensive, then elections in Ukraine, then, then, in short, Poroshenko had enough work without war. But shelling continued, and this could not affect the number of people loyal to Kiev More precisely, very much could, but not in the direction in which the Ukrainian authorities wanted.
            Such a paradox is that LDNR still exists, the merit of the clever Ukrainian command, those 2 thousand people with very different motivations (yes, there were even those who supported the Right Sector, but did not reach the trough), and Russian diplomacy, selling the Minsk agreements with the help of Merkel / Hollande. But not "Russian Ukraine" or "adequate Ukrainians"
  13. +21
    1 October 2017 11: 15
    Russia does not surrender its ...
    Zdraste
    But Gaddafi was handed over, despite the billion-dollar interests of the fuel and energy complex.
    Teddy bear with the Dutch Prime Minister examined the photos with the muzzled Muammar and chuckled
    1. +2
      1 October 2017 12: 17
      Gaddafi was never his own. He kept hundreds of billions in the West, hugged with Western leaders, and set up a tent on their lawn all the time.
      1. +19
        1 October 2017 12: 38
        It is yes, he has never been his own for our oligarchs on the throne, dressing in the clothes of the intercessors of the people.
        Lined up you understand in Libya a social state - a parasite. How is this - the newlyweds were just given an apartment? Yes, and much more.
        But Russia’s interests there were not frail, more so than in Syria (we don’t really know where Assad is holding).
        I’m just saying that in the absolute "Russia does not surrender its own" it is not necessary to build.
        Najibul can be remembered, for example, or Hussein (also not ours, but the USSR was very supportive and oriented on us for a long time).
        The truth is whom we rent - for some reason they die
      2. +5
        1 October 2017 12: 59
        Quote: Pissarro
        Gaddafi was never his own. He kept hundreds of billions in the West, hugged with Western leaders, and set up a tent on their lawn all the time.

        By analogy, Putin didn’t keep hundreds of yards of greens in the West either, he hugged with western leaders and walked along the same lawns where Gaddafi set up a tent.
  14. +3
    1 October 2017 14: 28
    British expert: unlike the United States, Russia does not give up
    Alas, there were precedents .... sad
  15. +7
    1 October 2017 15: 39
    A beautiful headline, Russia does not give up its own))) 1 Chechen, Kursk, monetization of benefits, a mess with pension reform, Privatization vouchers are, apparently, altruism, but peculiar.
  16. +1
    1 October 2017 16: 57
    Quote: Astoria
    It is necessary to return the state to the economy
    - nonsense, the state’s share is already under 70%, much more?

    And let me ask: Why does every third person work in the country? Why are taxes and fees raised (exactions from the population)? When will the Cabinet create (create jobs)?
    If you still haven’t figured it out, they will continue to RELEASE the people! And they will continue to kick everyone in bulk.
    It is gratifying and very pleasant that among overseas authors there are sensible people who are not afraid to tell the truth.
    1. +1
      3 October 2017 13: 57
      Quote: serzh sibiryak
      Why does every third only work in the country?

      Well, you exaggerate so ... Unemployment, of course, exists, but not 70%.
      Quote: serzh sibiryak
      Why are taxes and fees raised (requisitions from the population)?

      What tax has been raised?
      I am not saying that you are wrong, I just want facts.
      1. 0
        4 October 2017 16: 11
        I specify; taxes and fees. And increase in housing and communal services and electric energy, fuel and lubricants? Or am I wrong?
        1. +1
          5 October 2017 08: 40
          Quote: serzh sibiryak
          and fees

          clear
          Quote: serzh sibiryak
          Or am I wrong?

          Are right
          Quote: serzh sibiryak
          And the increase in housing and communal services and electric energy, fuel and lubricants?

          Comrade, well, without raising it is impossible to function normally ... Inflation is a mandatory process, in any case it should be, because difflation is much more dangerous. There are no critical leaps. I won’t say anything in a communal apartment (my wife makes payments), but they are not very critical, I give about 1 thousand for electricity, but I have a lot of consumption (2 water heaters of 50 liters each, wash every day, or even twice a day , because children, the yard is well lit, etc.), for water about 200 rubles. The largest is gas (heating + kitchen), in winter about 4 thousand / month. goes, the house is 120 sq.m. but gasoline 92 two years ago about 33 rubles, now about 35 rubles., well, let it be 2,5 rubles. has risen in price, not so much in two years ...
          There is annual growth, but not critical, I think in the amount of official inflation ...
          1. +1
            5 October 2017 18: 09
            Officially 4%, admitted plush, but he was served 18%. He approved 4%. I have an Armenian with a passport at work, in December 2016 I bought baby food for almost 1000 rubles, and after January 7 I gave more than 1200 rubles for twins of their own. HOW is it to understand?
            Gas in the house is good! Congratulations! I can only dream of it. Over 164000 rubles for connection, without a project and a boiler with other batteries. This is in Siberia where it is easy to get gas (Novosibirsk if anyone knows) and more than 4,5 rubles per cube for metering. And the house is less than 35 m2. I work 1 and the child is alone. Well, he doesn’t live in the kitchen? Electricity delivery to the Crimea is 312 rubles per mega-watt, and Siberia 2,5 almost per kilowatt. Like math, balance with bulldozer? With an average salary of 30000 p.
            Many people know how to keep inflation, but do not want to do it. They will deprive their pocket.
            1. +1
              6 October 2017 06: 32
              Apparently, the difference in regions is big in prices ... Although friends built a house, they started gas, it cost about 180 thousand with a boiler and accessories, comparable to your prices, the highway is 10-15 meters from the house ... I don’t know about baby food , my son still has 4 months, and white bread cost 22 rubles, now there are 18 for 10, in our village (about 21300 thousand people) there are three bakeries, there is competition ... meat and vegetables are understandable, there are all kinds of cereals, etc. Macaroni doesn’t get much more expensive ... My salary is 14000 (by our standards, not bad), my wife receives maternity benefits - 15, we pay a mortgage of XNUMX tr with a cop., two children, in principle, enough ... In general, the region has a discord in the region, apparently ...
              1. +1
                6 October 2017 16: 50
                For bread 26 r for 420 g, For a population of more than 1 ml 520 thousand people. After Moscow and St. Petersburg, Novosibirsk should follow. The city’s authorities envy the first two, they want to raise the fare for the subway (there they say 65 and 40 r). By the way, the governor seems to have been removed from us Acting from Vologda appointed. May change course.
  17. 0
    1 October 2017 21: 05
    Influential American magazine The American Interest has published an article that suggests a "rational and low-cost" way to neutralize the Russian threat: Russia is invited to simply buy.
    Подробнее: https://www.m24.ru/articles/%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0
    %B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0/14092017/150838?utm_s
    ource = CopyBuf
  18. 0
    1 October 2017 21: 48
    I liked the article. Everything is said in the case and clearly. Russia does not give up, we can’t retreat. Now it is impossible to continue. It’s a pity that the previous 20 years (late 80-
  19. +1
    1 October 2017 22: 13
    Gaddafi in vain cited as an example. He, like Milosevic, is yours and ours. Why on earth did we have to break the seat for the sake of the Bedouin without clear political guidelines? He Sarkozy and Cameron gave money to the polls.
    1. 0
      5 October 2017 00: 27
      Quote: Berkut24
      Gaddafi in vain cited as an example. He, like Milosevic, is yours and ours.

      Hussein was also not “ours” and ran to “us” when the west threw him.
  20. +1
    2 October 2017 10: 34
    Quote: Yarik
    To defeat America, it is necessary to restore order in your country. Corruption and embezzlement put to the wall. But something doesn’t work out with their country or they simply don’t want to.

    But they won in the stronghold of democracy by stanching corruption, calling it lobbying. And that's it, there is no corruption. Now clans get state. legal orders. Right?
  21. +1
    2 October 2017 12: 18
    It doesn’t surrender the country-states, but not for ordinary people ............... Why Russia does not punish the USA for unlawful arrests of ordinary people. And even the son of the deputy could not defend .........
  22. 0
    2 October 2017 15: 26
    Quote: Laksandrych
    And even the son of the deputy could not defend

    From here I did not understand ... at the same time as his mandate, do the relatives of the deputy receive indulgence for the right to commit crimes?
    With such "sons" and demand should be triple! Violated - get it all over the program!
  23. 0
    2 October 2017 18: 33
    When Gaddafi hugged Sarkozy and other "friends", he did not remember something so kind about Russia. As a roasted rooster pecked, he was so startled, but late.
  24. 0
    2 October 2017 20: 52
    It's like that! And Russia itself we need to act, as in Syria. Then we will win.
    1. 0
      3 October 2017 21: 51
      photo of the video of prisoners of these days from the Russian Federation you throw off or find yourself? Incidentally, they were burned. Now Black has already cut the path of the Palmyra-DEZ and is approaching the Palmyra

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