What really happened to the son of Ivan the Terrible?

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The Russian philosopher Konstantin Pobedonostsev, seeing in 1885 at an exhibition in St. Petersburg the painting by I. Repin “Ivan the Terrible and his son Ivan on November 16, 1581,” which later became known as “Ivan the Terrible kills his son,” was outraged that in it fiction was presented as truth. Therefore, he wrote to Alexander III that the picture should never be considered historicalbecause the plot is fantastic.

Indeed, almost everyone has heard about the murder of Ivan the Terrible by anyone, even in the school curriculum, as an illustration of the cruelty of the autocracy, there is information about this. N. Karamzin writes about this in his historiography. However, in fact, the fact of the murder of Grozny by his son, in fact, turned out to be a lie. The same Karamzin could not know about the existence of other versions, but for some reason he deliberately ignored them. The only thing in this story that is not in doubt is the date. Indeed, the son of Ivan the Terrible died in November 1581.

The fact of the killing by an autocrat of his son was until recently considered reliable and indisputable. But in all the documents of that time there is information about the death of John Ivanovich, but about the murder they are not mentioned.

The creator of the murder myth was the papal legate, a high-ranking Jesuit Anthony Possevin. He is also known for inventing and trying to implement political intrigue, hoping to put Russia in unbearable conditions with the help of Poles, Lithuanians and Swedes, and thus force Ivan the Terrible to subordinate the Orthodox Church to the Pope of Rome. But the king had a difficult diplomatic game, having managed to use Possevin for signing peace with Poland and not making concessions to Rome. Despite the fact that historians say about the Yam-Zapolsky peace treaty as a defeat for Russia, it should be noted that thanks to the papal legate, the Poles managed to regain only Polotsk, which Ivan the Terrible took away from Sigismund as early as 1563. After the peace was concluded, the king did not even think to discuss with Possevin the question of uniting the churches, because he did not promise that. Rome deceived itself because it had always been blinded by the idea of ​​establishing domination over the world. The complete failure of this Catholic adventure led to Possevin becoming the personal enemy of Grozny. Moreover, the papal legate arrived in Moscow much later than the death of the prince, so he could not physically be a witness to the murder.

Regarding the essence of what happened, the sudden death of the prince caused controversy among contemporaries and historians. There were a large number of death versions, but in all of them the word “possible”, “most likely”, “maybe”, etc. was present.

Karamzin in his book called the cause of the murder Grozny’s reluctance to send his son along with the army to liberate Pskov, as a result of which a quarrel ensued, and the king hit his son on the head with a rod. But, for example, M. Ivanov, commenting on this version, says that everything was wrong. Ivanov suggested that the murder was due to the wife of the prince. One day, when Grozny entered his son's chambers and saw a pregnant daughter-in-law dressed not according to the rules, he began to beat her, his son stood up for his wife. And then it was dealt a mortal blow. A similar version put forward and Valishevsky. Kobrin noted that such a version is the most plausible, but it is impossible to either verify it or disprove it. But then, on what basis was Ivan the Terrible accused of murder, which is impossible to prove or verify? Just on the basis of the fact that this seems to be true?

Such a household version of "lame in both legs." Ivan the Terrible could not meet the daughter-in-law in his son's chambers. The fact is that each member of the royal family lived in separate mansions, which were connected with the palace passages. Tsarevna Elena led the same way of life as all the ladies of the court: after the morning divine service, she and her attendants worked on needlework in their chambers. The laws of that time were very strict with respect to women, without the permission of her husband, none of them dared to appear in public, they even went to church only with permission, and even then under the supervision of servants. The rooms of noble women were usually in the depths of the house, and they were constantly closed, and the key was with their husbands. In the female part of the house could not get any man. How, then, did the king manage to see the princess Elena, who was also dressed not according to the rules? Did he break the door and then dispersed all the servants? But after all, history has not recorded a single similar incident in the eventful life of John. Therefore, it is quite possible to agree with Metropolitan John of Ladoga that this version was so ridiculous from the very beginning that it became necessary to somehow improve the story and find a worthy excuse for murder.

A little later, another tale appeared - a version of political assassination, but it turned out to be even more unsubstantiated than the previous one. According to historians, Ivan the Terrible with great distrust treated the desire of his son to lead the army in the fight against the Commonwealth, envied his youthful energy, but this is only speculation and no evidence of the veracity of this version does not exist. It is no less controversial than in the household. If you believe Karamzin, the prince expresses dissatisfaction of some segments of the population with the negotiations between Russia and Poland, that is, he comes out in opposition to the tsar regarding the conditions for signing a peace treaty. But according to all sources, the death of the prince falls on November 15 1581, while negotiations between the two states began only in mid-December, a month after his death. How can one be dissatisfied with the course of negotiations, which have not even begun yet, historians do not specify.

There is another version of the murder - "moral." Recall that in 1580, and according to some data - in 1578, in the German Quarter, an action was held to stop the speculation in alcohol. This was the basis for the new version. Its essence was that the prince showed compassion to the Livonians, so he gave one of the nobles, without the knowledge of the sovereign, to send the horses to the 5 of the mail horses. In addition, Ivan the Terrible feared for his power, because the people loved and supported the young prince in every possible way. Therefore, he hit his son with a rod, which is why he died on the third day. Note that in another interpretation of the same version, the blow to the ear turned into a regular slap, but also with a sad ending. But this version was untenable. First of all, because the named event could not have served as the cause of the quarrel, since it happened a few years before the murder. Some historians are of the opinion that the cause of the quarrel could be that the prince interceded for the Livonian prisoners, whom the henchmen treated badly.

This version is full of contradictions in the assessment of the character of the young prince. At first, historians claimed that the son was an exact copy of his father, and the similarity was not only physical, but also moral. After death, there are other pictures - the prince, it turns out, wise, not like his father, everyone loves him, so his death became a national grief. Thus, it is clear that such a transformation from a monster into a “public favorite” means only that one thing is a lie.

But how then did the prince perish if there was no murder? Metropolitan John of Ladoga was convinced that the son of Ivan the Terrible died a natural death, for which there is documentary evidence. Back in 1570, he came to the Kirillo-Belozersky monastery and, donating a thousand rubles, set a condition that he could take the veil to the monastery at any time, and would be remembered in case of death.

But was the prince's death natural? In 1963, the 4 tombs were uncovered in the Archangel Cathedral: Ivan the Terrible himself, his son, Tsar Fedor and Colonel Skopin-Shuisky. It was decided to conduct research on the subject of poisoning. During their conduct, it was found that the arsenic content in all skeletons is approximately equal. But in the skeletons of the king and his son were also found traces of mercury, its content in the remains many times higher than normal.

Could this coincidence be accidental? Unfortunately, only one thing is known: the Tsarevich's illness lasted for about a week, and he died in Alexandrov Sloboda. Historians suggest that the prince felt bad, so he decided to go to the monastery and get a haircut as a monk. Of course, about any injury to the head and the speech can not be, otherwise he would have lay unconscious with a head injury. On the road, his condition worsened, and the prince finally fell ill, and soon died.

Little more is known about the death of Ivan the Terrible himself. Back in 1582, Possevin expressed the idea that the king had only a short time to live. Similar statements seem very strange, if, according to the same Karamzin, in 1584 there was no deterioration in the autocrat's health. Thus, such confidence in the imminent death of the king cannot be explained by anything other than the fact that the papal legate himself was responsible for the death of Ivan the Terrible. Moreover, despite the statements of historians that it was in 1584, he fell ill, this is also not quite true. The fact is that this year the ruler only saw a comet in the sky and said that it foreshadows his death. The first mentions of the disease appeared on March 10, March 1584, March 16 worsened, then - relief, and March 18 - sudden death. His body was swollen and smelled bad. Thus, it can be argued that Ivan the Terrible died from mercury poisoning, since all 10 days of illness and before his death all the symptoms were observed: a swollen body and an unpleasant smell indicate that the kidneys failed (which is characteristic of mercury poisoning). Bathing contributed to the partial removal of poison from the body (because of this, the king felt relieved).

However, according to some historians, Ivan the Terrible was strangled.

The great autocrat died "very on time": at the beginning of 1584, Stefan Batory, enlisting the support of the Roman throne, began active preparations for a new war with Russia. Thus, it becomes clear who could and who did it, and who would benefit from the death of the king and his heir.
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  1. +18
    20 March 2012 08: 38
    For the entire time of the reign of Grozny, 2000 people were executed ... This is a historical fact ... But his reputation is ... For comparison, Peter was the first to ditch archers in two more ... Grozny built the Russian state ... And Catholics already then muddy water in Russia was not childish ... And it’s not good to rehash ... Karamzin’s is not the only one to say blunders ... Even then grants were worked out ...
    1. Passing
      0
      20 March 2012 16: 09
      Quote: ward
      Over the entire reign of Grozny, 2000 people were executed ..

      Here it is necessary to clarify - by direct order of Grozny.
      And indeed, compared with England at that time, where Henry and Elizabeth executed seventy and ninety thousand people (each fortieth Englishman), this is a drop in the bucket.
      But why do we forget about oprichnina and bloody repressions in Novgorod? So the indirect account of Ivan IV could well come close to the English record holders.
      1. recitatorus
        +5
        20 March 2012 17: 08
        Which of the wise said, people can be divided into three groups: the first see what they see: the second see what they are shown, and the third blind.

        But there are versions that during the massacre in Novgorod, drowning people in the river was impossible, because of the cracking frosts the river was covered with arshin ice! ..
        1. Passing
          -3
          20 March 2012 18: 14
          Quote: recitatorus
          because of cracking frosts, the river was covered with arshin ice!

          What, and do you have a certificate from the meteorological center?
          And by the way, have you heard about fishermen on ice, Epiphany bathing, etc.? This is the question of blindness.
          Well, and so, yes, Ivan IV was a man of the kindest soul, who executed, and then atone for sins earnestly. Even the conspirators-traitors from his inner circle somehow spared, and even left in their previous posts! Well, just the standard of mercy. True, there is one caveat, that was how it was to a certain limit, but after that it was cut off.
    2. +7
      20 March 2012 19: 19
      If we compare this time with Europe: the oprichnina took about 6 thousand lives in 5 years, one Bartholomew’s night - 30 thousand (according to various estimates: from 5 to 30 thousand); In the Holy Roman Empire - Charles V (1520–1558) executed tens of thousands; in England: Henry VIII (1509-1547) - tens of thousands of people executed in the political struggle, among dozens of other cultural figures - Thomas More, out of 6 of his wives, the king, suspecting of treason, executed 2; Elizabeth I (1568-1603) - tens of thousands of executed; Spain: on February 16, 1568, the Spanish Inquisition sentenced all the inhabitants of the Netherlands to death (not to mention all those executed by the Inquisition), during the suppression of uprisings in the Netherlands by Philip II (1556-1598) more than one hundred thousand were executed in two years, on November 4, 1576 with the suppression of the uprising in Antwerp executed 8 thousand, he executed representatives of dozens of aristocratic clans of Aragon.
  2. Bat1stuta
    +14
    20 March 2012 08: 47
    our really Great rulers are trying in every possible way to denigrate. And Ivan the Terrible, and Catherine the Great, Paul I and others. The information war has been going on for centuries ... the most important thing for us to know and remember our true truth, and pass it on to descendants ... smile
  3. Anatoly
    -1
    20 March 2012 09: 13
    Ivan groznyj:
    - Give me a staff, I need to talk with my son.
    - Call the court artist?
    - Why?
    - You never know, you will suddenly need to draw something ...
  4. +2
    20 March 2012 14: 27
    Is there any truth about its history in any country ???
    1. +4
      20 March 2012 17: 23
      Quote: kush62
      Is there any truth about its history in any country ???


      “If you remove all lodges from history, you don't have to think that only the truth will remain. It is quite possible that then nothing will remain at all” - Jerzy Letz.

      "The more incredible a lie, the faster it will be believed" - Dr. J. Goebbels.
  5. 0
    20 March 2012 14: 48
    We have some kind of mess with history .... it turns out that Peter 1 was an order of magnitude more bloody ....
    1. Sniper 1968
      -1
      20 March 2012 14: 57
      viruskvartirus,
      Quote: viruskvartirus
      .... it turns out Peter 1 was an order of magnitude more bloody ....

      Read the fundamental work of A. Bushkov about Peter 1m, the most important enemy of the Russian people, and of the whole Russian in general ...
      1. 0
        20 March 2012 18: 25
        Thank you read)
  6. +7
    20 March 2012 15: 07
    Actually, we Russians should not use the "formidable" klikuha given by the enemies of our Fatherland. It is no secret that Ivan IV and his family were systematically hounded for many years. Few people know that in 1963 four tombs were opened in the Archangel Cathedral of the Moscow Kremlin: Ivan IV, his sons - Tsar Fyodor and Tsarevich Ivan and the tomb of the most prominent military leader, Prince Mikhail Skopin-Shuisky. The commission, which also included forensic physicians, began work after appropriate measurements, sketches, photographs. Spectral research showed that scrapings from the walls of the tomb contain trace amounts of zinc, copper, silver, and lead. The clothes of Ivan the Terrible contained only those elements that are usually found in cotton fabrics. Research continued ... And suddenly - an unexpected discovery: in the remains of Ivan IV and Tsarevich Ivan, almost five times more mercury was found than in the objects from the sarcophagi of Tsar Fyodor Ioannovich and Prince Skopin-Shuisky. Moreover, mercury could not get into the remains from the outside, since negligible little was found in the walls of all tombs. Consequently, the mercury compounds entered the body of Tsar Ivan and his eldest son during their lifetime.
    http://uznaipravdu.org/viewtopic.php?t=17
  7. 4DS
    4DS
    +5
    20 March 2012 15: 19
    In the light of the above, Mr. Prokhorov’s statement on the pre-election debate that our best friends are the countries of Europe, when, as a matter of fact, History points to the opposite, sounds all the more strange.

    And in the continuation of the set of versions, I dug up something else: "... the early formation of osteophytes can be explained, apparently, by a sharp metabolic disorder, in particular salt-calcium, a complete lack of a regimen, alcohol consumption and excessive eating. Severe back pain, in all joints, forced Ivan IV to turn to doctors who he was treated, apparently, with oriental mercury ointments, which were fashionable at that time. Only this explains such a large amount of mercury found in the skeleton of Ivan the Terrible. "
    "Brief reports of the Institute of Archeology of the Academy of Sciences of the USSR". 1965. no. 100.S. 139-142.
    And here is another interesting: "Anthropological study makes it possible to say that by his type Ivan the Terrible was closest to the Dinaric, that is, the main anthropological type characteristic of the Slavs. However, the individual features of the structure of the skull (the shape of the orbits and nose) indicate the influence of some kind, apparently , of southern European blood. "
  8. Igor77
    -5
    20 March 2012 15: 45
    No one is interested in true events. It is human nature to fantasize - it is more interesting to live like this. Anyone retelling their biography will distort facts, events, etc. Especially if it concerns someone else's biography. The truth is always somewhere nearby.
    And I also think that delving into the graves and tombs of the last thing would have been dealt with than useful for the present, and not delved into the past.
    1. +2
      19 May 2014 09: 06
      Quote: Igor77
      And I also think that delving into graves and tombs is the last thing
      Right. It would be better if later on the kind and wise uncles and aunts from Europe will tell us what we had in history and what pose we should face them.
  9. +8
    20 March 2012 16: 54
    Since ancient times, from the moment it appeared on the map (by the way, to this day), Russia has been subjected to pressure from the West, attempts to subdue it in one way or another. At the same time, the same tactics were used - all sorts of myths were invented and spread around the world, denigrating Russia, presenting it as a backward state of barbarians, cruel savages, with dark and cruel tyrants at their head, with bears in the streets, which is only "an introduction to Western values" , (in particular, the recognition of the supremacy of the Vatican) could eliminate the backwardness of Russia, gain recognition and access to the "league" of the mighty of that world. And Russia was already losing in the "information war" then. Therefore, these myths are so tenacious, and Ivan the Terrible went down in history as a "bloody tsar" (the victims of his reign - about 2000 people), but the murder of MORE than 40 thousand Huguenots in 1572 in "enlightened" France did not affect the reputation in any way French royal family. Wounded pride and a desire to denigrate Russia in revenge drove the author of the neglected myth about the "Potemkin villages", which has already become a household name. Unfortunately, these myths have always found soil in Russia among the so-called "Westernizers" from the educated part of the population, who spread them with pleasure, ready to carry their FATHERLAND to please the West !!! Centuries have passed, but nothing has changed with respect to Russia !!!
    1. Sasha36543
      +5
      20 March 2012 18: 59
      There have always been executions. We can say that all those executed in the UK over the past 60 years are victims of the reign of Elizabeth 2.

      Are all the exclusively innocent lambs executed under Ivan the Terrible? Not a single person to whom the death penalty was imposed according to the laws and customs of that time ???
      1. +2
        19 May 2014 09: 13
        Quote: Sasha36543
        We can say that all those executed in the UK over the past 60 years are victims of the reign of Elizabeth 2.
        And, by the way, very accurately. After all, Elizabeth II is a monarch, the head of the judiciary and in her competence to pardon anyone and in any quantities, without even bothering herself with explanations.
    2. Churchill
      +3
      20 March 2012 22: 17
      And what is the myth about General Frost, who defeated Napoleon! ..
    3. +2
      19 May 2014 09: 10
      Quote: Goldmitro
      Therefore, these myths are so tenacious, and Ivan the Terrible went down in history as a "bloody tsar" (the victims of his reign - about 2000 people), but the murder of MORE than 40 thousand Huguenots in 1572 in "enlightened" France did not affect the reputation in any way French royal family.
      Well, everything is clear here: St. Bartholomew's Night was held at the direct consecration of the Vatican and exclusively for its purposes, and the "bloody and formidable" Ivan Vasilyevich opposed this Vatican exactly. In general, nothing is new: Catherine Medici, of course, is a daughter of a bitch, but this is their daughter of a bitch.
  10. panzer
    0
    20 March 2012 18: 23
    I advise you to read Valery Shambarov "Beat the Filthy" and "The Truth of Barbarian Russia" Personally, I understood a lot.
  11. +3
    20 March 2012 21: 25
    There is only one conclusion - history, the most politicized science.
    1. +2
      19 May 2014 09: 17
      Quote: Nick
      There is only one conclusion - history, the most politicized science.
      Truly. No wonder Pokrovsky M.N. said: "History is politics overturned into the past." I completely agree that we must aggressively defend our right to our own history, without being ashamed of any "enlightened Europe" - their "civilization" is quite clearly manifested today in Ukraine.