Two bandits demanded money from a veteran and tried to burn him

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As Vesti.ru was handed over yesterday, an investigation into a criminal case about an attack on a 86-year veteran of the Great Patriotic War was launched in the Krasnodar Territory. Two masked men broke into the house of Peter Zhivotovsky, beat the veteran, then tied him up with a curtain and tried to burn him alive. The criminals did not find money in the house, but they stole medals and orders. In poor condition, the old man was taken to hospital.

In the house on the floor - a layer of soot, and the walls - in soot. All the furniture burned in the fire. You could say the veteran's house is destroyed.

Evgeny Zabolotny, a relative of P. Zhivotovsky, said that two masked men entered the house and began to demand money. Peter Zhivotovsky was supposed to receive a pension on the eve. The bandits began to threaten the old man, they said that they would cut off his ear.

The beaten, unconscious eighty-six-year old man was tied up by cruel thieves with a curtain, then they doused the rooms with kerosene - and they set fire to them. It's amazing that an old, battered and bound man managed to get out of a burning house ...

Neighbors who saw the fire called an ambulance. Peter Zhivotovsky, who went through the war from the Kuban to Berlin itself, is now in intensive care. The bandits showed extreme cruelty: the old man’s jaws were broken, pulmonary edema was recorded. The condition is assessed as heavy.

Anaesthesiologist of the Armavir city hospital Roman Babich said that until the victim’s condition is stabilized, surgical intervention is expected. But the threat of life remains in any case: age.

In Zhivotovsky district, everyone knows very well. Veteran - a local celebrity. At one stop posted his portrait. The veteran has twenty-eight awards, including the Order of the Patriotic War, the medal "For the capture of Berlin" and others. Now these orders and medals are from unknown bandits.

It should be noted that the criminals burned Zhivotovsky's clothes. In this way they hid the traces of the crime. The orders and medals of the veteran hung on Pyotr Ivanovich's outfit: even after the fire, it is clear that they were uprooted. Only the medal "For Valiant Labor" remained on the jacket.

Relatives do not tell the veteran about the missing medals. They fear that he, who is already in a serious condition, will become worse. The daughter of Peter Ivanovich, Elena Astakhova, says that the rewards for him are the most precious.

It is assumed that the bandits prepared for the crime - they took with them kerosene. Relatives Zhivotovsky convinced that the re-enactment of the fire failed, and, therefore, the attackers will be found. Police also do not report on the results of the investigation.
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  1. Dimani
    +16
    17 March 2012 09: 59
    Hold on father!
    1. +18
      17 March 2012 10: 03
      Find and land .. I think in the camp there are also grandchildren of the WWII veterans, they will arrange a fun outing to the bastards ... How interesting it is to go down to burn the old man alive
      1. Aleksey67
        +22
        17 March 2012 10: 18
        I remember recently (less than half a year) there was a similar case, but without burning. There Gaster "lit up". Yesterday in the news on "First" this story was shown. T demanded 150 rubles, they got angry that they had not taken the awards and 000 rubles. Human life is getting cheaper. In vain, for the sake of the "liberal" Europpa, the death penalty was abolished. "Shitty" USA gets executed and nobody cares.

        Shl by the way yesterday received a "warning"

        You violated the rules of the site, admitted in the comment:
        ""shitty"." in the article A procession of SS legionnaires took place in Riga.


        DO YOU NOT SEE THAT THIS IS OVER?
        1. snek
          0
          17 March 2012 10: 24
          Alexey67 (2) The news of the tragedy and of vile creatures, due to some misunderstanding related to the human race. No need to drag politics here.

          Quote: Aleksey67
          You violated the site rules, allowed in the comments: "" shitty "." in the article The procession of SS legionnaires took place in Riga. DOES YOU SEEM THAT IT IS OVER?

          No don't seem
          1. Aleksey67
            +6
            17 March 2012 10: 41
            Quote: snek
            No don't seem


            Let's see the word "crap" does not offend anyone in particular, is not obscene and is a figurative word describing the phenomenon. Censorship should have boundaries too !!!!
            What am I wrong about? You can also find fault with a post. When I am being punished for a case, I take it for granted.

            No need to drag politics here.


            Read the meaning of my post, it's not politics, but "censorship"
            1. +2
              17 March 2012 12: 16
              generally censorship some country, do not miss a word, the same
        2. -1
          17 March 2012 10: 45
          DO YOU NOT SEE THAT THIS IS OVER?


          At one time, the majority spoke in favor of the kindergarten.
          1. Aleksey67
            +8
            17 March 2012 10: 53
            Quote: vitvit123
            At one time, the majority spoke in favor of the kindergarten.


            I believed and still believe that on this site, there are people no younger than 14 years old. I agree about the inadmissibility of obscene language (although sometimes it is difficult to restrain myself), but when they begin to point out the inadmissibility of writing "neutral words" this is outrageous. Why are there rules then?

            They’ll ban me now, but I can’t keep silent anymore tired of arbitrariness... This is not a forum for the "Institute of Noble Maidens".

            FOR SELF-EDUCATION OF SOME:

            Crap - an abusive language of journalism. In Russia, it is mainly used by the opposition press in evaluating the activities of the “anti-people government” (in its understanding).

            The word is formed as consonant with the word "democracy" (the power of crap) and is used exclusively in a negative context. Most often, when evaluating government actions unpopular among the people.

            Who specifically introduced this term in use is unknown. It is found in Vladimir Voinovich’s book, written in 1986, “Moscow 2042”. One of the first to use it was the left-wing radical politician and publicist Yuri Mukhin, who introduced it in the name of his book, published in 1993.

            The term is formed as a pun of Russian words, a pun, and is difficult to translate into other languages.

            Close in meaning - the Bulgarian word "demokradtsi", which can be quite successfully translated into Russian as "democrats", that is, robbing the people. This word is not very common, used primarily in forums, in relation to both left and right politicians.

            The direct translation into English of the word “crap” is the term “shitocracy”. It is also used, albeit less frequently than its Russian counterpart, in the opposition press to criticize various aspects of democracy. Often has a satirical connotation. Other similar English terms: kakistocracy and kleptocracy.

            There is also the term democrazy, which is also a play on words (democracy - democracy, crazy - insanity), but having a slightly different meaning associated with the imperfection of the electoral system.
            1. 0
              17 March 2012 12: 51
              This is not a forum for the "Institute of Noble Maidens".


              Therefore, there is no desire to comment on anything, but also be afraid if you put a minus sign, this is a terrible punishment.
              1. Aleksey67
                +6
                17 March 2012 13: 00
                Quote: vitvit123
                Therefore, there is no desire to comment on anything, but also be afraid if you put a minus sign, this is a terrible punishment.


                I do not care about the minuses, I generally consider the running method to be wrong, tk. some do not communicate, but earn "titles", amuse complexes. I was banned for the cause and I sat without creating clones, knowing that I was punished for the cause. Now there are "vigilantes", each of whom believes that he is "the center of the earth." One of them wrote to me in a personal that I was punished for allowing me to write a word "crap" in relation to the Latvian fascism. I gave him the data that the word "crap" is literary, but he does not care, writes that he met this word only on this site and will be punished for it. WHO IS HE AFTER THIS? Maybe the "shitokrat" himself considers it a personal insult? The Juda is silent. If you are a man and make a decision, then be responsible for your actions, otherwise do not expose "warnings", but "minus" from the sly. There is no answer, it will not be until 15.00, I will find a way to voice this "personality". wink
                1. +7
                  17 March 2012 13: 44
                  I completely agree with you. Not babies are gathered here. I also received a warning for the word "" in relation to the former SS legionnaires. I think this warning is NOT fair; in addition, this word is abusive, but not obscene and not insulting on a national basis.
                  It seems that strict censorship is being introduced ... I wrote about this in the comments to the article on moderation on this site. Welcome to the institute of noble maidens!
                  1. Aleksey67
                    +2
                    17 March 2012 13: 50
                    UhalusThank you, I just think you need to fight for your rights, and not be a "dumb brute." Yesterday, a portrait of Bandera hung for almost an hour with a message about how we Russians are being put in cancer and silence. And here for the word "priest" will soon be banned for life. If "normal male words do not like men, go to the editor in the magazine" Murzilka ". We got it already, you can find fault with the Russians, but you can't find amers and other s-volos. Who are you," censorship figures "with?
                    Threat Until 15.00 not long left wink

                    In relation to the SS legionnaires I think all obscene and insulting words are applicable, in this particular case this will only be statement of fact
                    1. -2
                      17 March 2012 14: 23
                      Why are you going broke here? There were several discussions about the behavior on the site, on the basis of which the rules of conduct on the site were clearly defined. I understand your feelings in relation to these bandits, however, it is not necessary to turn the discussion into a trash heap. Everything is clear what they are, if you want to speak out, you need to do it constructively, and not just shake the air. That it will become easier for you if you transfer the abuse to "paper", and not to say it loudly out loud?
                      1. Aleksey67
                        +3
                        17 March 2012 14: 28
                        Quote: Varnaga
                        Why are you going broke? Regarding the behavior on the site, there were several discussions on the basis of which the rules of behavior on the site were clearly defined


                        With your "political correctness" you have already got the philologists-censors. The word svoch is literary, the words pin.dos, pede rast and crap are common. Pen dos also at one time stopped calling blacks that way and now these African Americans "spread rot" to the fullest. And there is no need to wave the "cudgel of justice" here. When we are guilty, we, like normal men, silently endure the punishment, but here it is "boiling."
                        STOP ARRANGEMENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                        Can generally leave only messages
                        "This is class and progress"
                        "Glory to Putin"
                        "Russia is rising from its knees"

                        Threat As an example, many of us allow ourselves to drink vodka with friends in the kitchen (in a cafe, restaurant) and I hope no one drinks at the playground. So here is not a playground. The mat is unacceptable, but the censorship measure must also be known. Why do I infringe on my rights and I can’t call it evil and evil as it deserves it?
                      2. -3
                        17 March 2012 14: 46
                        I repeat again, messages that do not carry normal, reasonable criticism, i.e. non-constructive ones, sprinkled with obscenities and curses will be deleted or corrected in terms of cleaning up obscene language, and the author will receive warnings. If you cannot clearly express your opinion, while respecting the rules of the site, which are equal for everyone, you will have to learn this, or get banned all the time.
                      3. Aleksey67
                        +5
                        17 March 2012 14: 56
                        Quote: Varnaga
                        If you cannot clearly express your opinion, while respecting the rules of the site, which are equal for everyone, you will have to learn this, or get banned all the time.


                        Why am I being punished for defining "democracy"? - above there is an example where this word is formed.
                        Why Uhalus, and punished for the word "bastard" in relation to SSovtsy?
                        Why can you call me "goi", but I can't write the word ""?
                        Why can not I use the word in the posts? Why are they so dear to you?
                        There are many other questions.
                      4. +5
                        17 March 2012 15: 31
                        we have as always
                        make a fool pray to god he will break his forehead

                        gentlemen, the Senzors, most spoke out for the lack of obscenities, but there are commonly used literary words, we’ll play enough so that you’re the nickname of the Evil Tatar for banning, otherwise the Tatars will be offended
                      5. Aleksey67
                        +3
                        17 March 2012 15: 34
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        we, as always, make a fool of God pray and he will break his forehead



                        They’re already breaking up both themselves and others am

                        To "whitewash" SSovtsev is too much, the word "bastard" in relation to them is a compliment. am
                      6. Aleksey67
                        +1
                        17 March 2012 15: 47
                        VarnagaWhat criteria are used to select words that cannot be used?
                      7. +7
                        17 March 2012 16: 06
                        I envy your composure with regard to such a topic ... As a Russian person, it is hard for me to bend my heart and say that the SS are bad and cruel people, because they are creatures and ki, especially contemporaries ... I was told like my grandmother with a tank they rolled out a country road, in detail, the person in whose eyes it happened ... You can't react to this without emotion, unless of course you have a soul ... Things should be called by their proper names ... Some things and people have absolutely obscene names ... But "crap" and "bastard" prohibit this overkill. The opinion is exclusively mine and possibly wrong ...
                      8. Aleksey67
                        +4
                        17 March 2012 16: 18
                        SlavsUnfortunately, attempts to call the "public vigilantes" were not crowned with success. Attempts to get an answer are a shameful "drain". The emergence of trolls minusovschik and "drain" of our "defenders of morality" is probably interconnected, to defend the Nazis from Latvia, spreading rot "their" in their concept - this is "fair". You can hide behind "unfounded criticism" yourself, but here:

                        Why are you going broke?
                        Varnaga,



                        This can be seen as a "standard" of constructive dialogue. am
                      9. +5
                        17 March 2012 16: 31
                        God bless them all, but we won’t give ourselves an insult. But censorship was introduced under the pretext of eradicating mothers, but along the way the goal was different, and it all started with the filing of an insulted Jew ... Now you can’t offend the SS ... We won’t stand for ourselves, nobody will regret ... Nothing, all will not be beaten .. smile
                      10. Aleksey67
                        +1
                        17 March 2012 16: 37
                        Quote: Slavs
                        God bless them all, but we won’t give ourselves an insult. But censorship was introduced under the pretext of eradicating mothers, but along the way the goal was different, and it all started with the filing of an insulted Jew ... Now you can’t offend the SS ... We won’t stand for ourselves, nobody will regret ... Nothing, all will not be beaten ..


                        I also remember a letter from a retiree in which he reported with horror that his son recognized the word "zhud" on this forum and was so "upset that he could not eat directly," my son was no less 12-14 years old. I think he heard much more from his peers at school. An "active discussion" has begun and now the "activists" are squeezing oxygen. am


                        MODERS, explain the "new rules of the game"? We call SS members saviors, Zhuds peacemakers, crap democracy is the standard of the political system, Bandera is a hero Amen wassat
                      11. +3
                        17 March 2012 16: 56
                        Quite right ... And now, as a person with a mania of persecution, I ask myself the question, is this a coincidence accidental? Or is it really impossible to breathe a damn from the site? .. And mind you, no action from the trolls ... Who was offended there? And, about the Russians again ... Well, they’ll survive, the women still give birth ... And here who offend? Estonian fascists? But there are not many of them, to save ... To punish boors who use abuse and other excesses in their attitude ... Here is my picture ... I wonder if I can go to the site tomorrow? Will not clog up the account? smile
                      12. Aleksey67
                        0
                        17 March 2012 17: 09
                        Quote: Slavs
                        Interestingly, tomorrow I can go to the site? Will not clog up the account?


                        Typically "Jewish" things stir up behind the backs, referring to technical problems or others. After the revolution, remember who took the key positions in the party apparatus? The USSR how much because of "them" spread rot, but they wrote letters to the West and complained that they were being oppressed. Has anyone seen a Jew with a shovel or other tool other than a pen, brush, or muses. tool? No.
                      13. 0
                        18 March 2012 11: 01
                        I understand that the option:
                        "What are you crucified here ...?" would be closer and more familiar?
                        further, the word filter automatically removes words that can be used as insults to the interlocutor, is it really so difficult to understand. And last, moderators only, to the best of their ability, monitor topics that interest them and do not track the entire array of comments.
                    2. +3
                      17 March 2012 14: 33
                      Say everything correctly, as everything is again one-sided, you can talk about some, you can’t talk about others ... Seven-year-olds don’t sit on the site, and fifteen-year-olds do not use such speed, so I'm sorry, a strong word is used here, and not when discussing the merits of a classmate ... So censorship is a delicate matter ... There is still a law on anti-Semitism to carry out and everything, hallelujah ... Everything will be fair on the site ... Sorry for the sarcasm.
                      We are waiting for 15.00 ....
                      1. Aleksey67
                        +2
                        17 March 2012 14: 37
                        Quote: Slavs
                        There is still a law on anti-Semitism to implement and all


                        You will be surprised, but some nationalities wink still nizya call common words smile
                    3. Aleksey67
                      +4
                      17 March 2012 15: 01
                      Quote: Aleksey67
                      Threat Until 15.00 not long left


                      Here he is the hero of our time

                      tronin.maxim


                      A connoisseur of verbal duel, thrust his tongue into (censorship), who knows how to warn without being content with arguments shamefully "merging".
                      1. Aleksey67
                        +6
                        17 March 2012 15: 08
                        Dear forum users! Recently, unprecedented events have taken place, referring to a discussion in one of the topics, they begin to censor one-sidedly. Moreover, the farther, the more newly-born "censors" come to taste, the truth is also evident, "Appetite comes with eating." I myself have a negative attitude to obscene language (sometimes I use it in my life, but I try not to abuse it), but what is happening now can not be called lawlessness.
                        We can be called "goyim", we can not write the word ""
                        The word "" is prohibited, other literary words are prohibited.
                        Correspondence with Tronin ( tronin.maxim ) horrified, it turns out that the person issuing "warnings" considers himself entitled to be considered "offended and offended" for the word "democracy" in relation to fascist Latvia


                        I THINK POSSIBLE TO MAKE A DISCUSSION, BUT SOME OF THE "CROWN PRESSES" am
                      2. +5
                        17 March 2012 15: 18
                        There is a category of people who don’t feed a loaf of bread, just give them a little power, control the fate of others, and they love freedom very much, discipline and orders are not for them ... They like to suck out humanism from the finger where it is not needed ... In short, I support Alexey67, I am ready to stand by and answer any questions, arguments and outright attacks ...
                      3. Aleksey67
                        +4
                        17 March 2012 15: 22
                        Quote: Slavs
                        There is a category of people who do not feed bread, just give a little power


                        No wonder the old Russian proverb was a test
                        "Water, fire and COPPER PIPES" test of glory smile When you do something, be able to answer, but "merge" with the cry "complain to the moderator" not like a man !!!! am
                      4. KamikadZzzE
                        +2
                        17 March 2012 22: 04
                        Surely dolgonosiki - Dunya Emelya Boris Ivan Lena Y
                      5. +3
                        17 March 2012 15: 33
                        I support, a black man needs to be called a black man and not an African-American, because he is a black man and this is not an insult, the same as he is and not gay or somehow
                      6. Aleksey67
                        +4
                        17 March 2012 15: 36
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        I support, a black man needs to be called a black man and not an African-American, because he is a black man and this is not an insult, just like fagot he is and not gay or somehow


                        Don't tell me, Canada has already expressed its claims to Russia for the adoption in St. Petersburg of the "Law on the Promotion of Homosexuality" am

                        Ottawa - The Ministry of Foreign Affairs warns gay men traveling to Russia to behave cautiously in St. Petersburg, in which a law banning "propaganda of homosexuality" should come into force soon.
                        A vaguely worded law against manifestations — and perhaps even against public discussion — of homosexuality comes into force in St. Petersburg from Saturday.

                        Its violators are threatened with arrest, criminal prosecution and fines from 5 thousand to 500 thousand rubles (from 167 to 16763 dollars).

                        “We recommend that Canadians refrain from publicly expressing feelings, as homosexuals can be subjected to violence,” the ministry said. “Homosexuality is legal in Russia, but it is still strongly condemned.”


                        Foreign Minister John Baird said Friday in the House of Commons that the new law is extremely worrying because he “is contrary to Canada’s fundamental values ​​- freedom of speech, human rights, and the rule of law.”



                        On stake "" am
                      7. +5
                        17 March 2012 18: 43
                        I THINK POSSIBLE TO MAKE A DISCUSSION, BUT SOME OF THE "CROWN PRESSES"


                        Therefore, I say that there is no desire to give comments.
                        Snot, drooling, children's fawning for children's pluses, comments for the audience, marshals, field marshals - to whom it is desirable to observe subordination, as , they rushing from this, moderators who are already on the stars (in the sense of high in the sky) - from this set you go crazy. Where I am ??? Site - Military Review - like a mature name, a serious direction, but in fact - (again) a kindergarten !!!

                        No pluses! (do not put them to me).
                      8. Aleksey67
                        +1
                        17 March 2012 18: 54
                        Quote: vitvit123
                        Therefore, I say that there is no desire to give comments.


                        Take a look at the topic about priests in the army, somewhere at the end of the branch. There, a clown with a general's shoulder straps and a child's avatar gives a show session. If not yet "merged" smile Shoulder straps are all nonsense !!! they will be canceled and there will be more normal people, clowns will run away and will not post nonsense am
                      9. KamikadZzzE
                        +2
                        17 March 2012 22: 09
                        My applause fellow
                      10. KamikadZzzE
                        +2
                        17 March 2012 21: 59
                        Aleksey67,
                        I recently wrote the word "stupid person" here. It did not pass. Corrected to "stupid people" Once again wrote - again "stupid people" And then called "stupid people"
                        Guys, ride ..
                      11. +2
                        17 March 2012 22: 09
                        In general, I make it easier for one letter in a word to become steel from the English register;
                      12. Aleksey67
                        +1
                        17 March 2012 17: 58
                        "Cinema" continues

                        You violated the rules of the site, admitted in the comment:
                        "scum and scum, "in the article Eleven clerics became assistant commanders in the Ground Forces.


                        Tronin bit a bit and carries nonsense wassat

                        According to Tronin, the film "Bastards" should be banned for the title wink
          2. +2
            17 March 2012 14: 14
            spoke for the fact that there would be no mats on the site
      2. +5
        17 March 2012 10: 41
        Well, do not here about the noble and fair convicts, why are they sitting then? Now these will be caught and there will be two more noble and fair in the zone.
      3. +3
        17 March 2012 11: 23
        And how can one think about abolishing the death penalty after this ?! For life imprisonment and let the rest of the time they regret that they were born.
        1. Aleksey67
          +3
          17 March 2012 12: 39
          Here is the news

          Veteran in the Kuban returned stolen medals and orders

          17 March 2012, 10: 25


          The police discovered and returned the stolen awards to 85-year-old World War II veteran Peter Zhivotovsky, Igor Zhelyabin, head of the GUMVD press service for the Krasnodar Territory, said on Saturday.


          “All medals and orders of the veteran, including the badge of honor, the Order of the Patriotic War, the medal for courage and the medal for the victory over Germany, were found in the village of Yubileiny (two kilometers from the victim’s place of residence). They lay in a bag under the bridge. The veteran’s daughter identified them, ”said Zhelyabin, RIA Novosti reports.

          According to him, law enforcement officers are looking for criminals. Criminal Case Launched under article 162 of the Criminal Code (robbery).

          The investigation of these cases was taken under control by the governor of the Kuban, Alexander Tkachev, and the leadership of the regional prosecutor's office.

          As the newspaper VZGLYAD reported, on Thursday night, attackers beat a veteran of the Great Patriotic War, robbed and set fire to his house in the village of Krasnaya Polyana near the city of Armavir, Krasnodar Territory.

          This is not the first case of a robbery of WWII veterans in the Kuban. So, in November last year, the Krasnodar Regional Court sentenced 20 years old Nikolai Belashov, who, according to the investigation, tortured and then killed a veteran of labor and the Great Patriotic War, to 31 years in prison in a maximum security penal colony.
    2. Tatars
      +4
      17 March 2012 14: 10
      Shame and shame on these people. It is a pity that the death penalty was abolished in Russia
    3. predator
      +1
      18 March 2012 12: 22
      The Kuban police detained two suspects in the attack on the 85-year-old veteran of the Great Patriotic War, Peter Zhivotovsky, the third accomplice in the crime is being wanted, Igor Zhelyabin, head of the press service of the Central Internal Affairs Directorate of the Russian Federation for the Krasnodar Territory, told RIA Novosti.

      “Two suspects were detained - born in 1988 and 1991. They confessed. In addition, there is material evidence that confirms their participation in the attack, ”said Zhelyabin.

      A third alleged attacker is wanted, a spokesman said.

      He added that the head of the regional chief of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Vladimir Vinevsky, kept under control the operational-search measures in this case. Guards worked around the clock.

      The day before, the police found and returned to the veteran all the medals and orders stolen from him, Zhelyabin said.
      1. 0
        18 March 2012 12: 28
        IF THEY-CUT EGGS
  2. +13
    17 March 2012 10: 02
    These freaks do not need to be judged; Amoeba ......
    1. +3
      17 March 2012 10: 04
      It is necessary to judge and talk about it .. That others disobedient ...
      1. +9
        17 March 2012 10: 16
        it’s not necessary to judge where they got there and finish, but to make a record of execution
      2. Sokol peruna
        +4
        17 March 2012 10: 25
        Judge, then feed 20 years at his own expense. Under our democratic laws, one hope is that they will crash when trying to escape.
        1. 0
          18 March 2012 05: 04
          Sokol Peruna - and I would feed this bastard for about 20 years (or how long he will last there, but he will last several orders of magnitude less), provided that he moves with cancer all the time like in "Black Swan", eats gruel and works like Sisyphus.
          In my mind, old people = small children and you need to be a VERY BIG CREATURE to do this.
    2. +5
      17 March 2012 10: 24
      The most effective lead tablets in a dose of 9 grams
      1. +2
        17 March 2012 11: 34
        You can’t feed them with these pills. For such a plant. So that they suffer for 15-20 hours. Moral.
      2. -1
        17 March 2012 11: 34
        better hangman by the eternal flame
        1. +2
          17 March 2012 14: 33
          Well, you guys are all sadistic ... No need to execute. Just hold a lobotomy - and the criminals will become quiet, good-natured and will never offend anyone or even conceive of evil in principle. And they will even remember where the toilet is. And then they can be given to that old man for service - let the floors wash or dig the garden, or something.
          1. +1
            17 March 2012 15: 34
            Quote: Uhalus
            Just hold a lobotomy - and the criminals will become quiet, good-natured and will never offend anyone or even conceive of evil in principle. And they will even remember where the toilet is

            feed them, fuck them
  3. +5
    17 March 2012 10: 08
    Catch and put on a stake! And broadcast as House 2.
    1. +4
      17 March 2012 10: 16
      and it’s better to pour kerosene as they wanted, and to show at the most watchable time, and most importantly to say that it will be so before
  4. snek
    +3
    17 March 2012 10: 10
    I would like to say "beast", but I don't want to offend animals.
  5. YARY
    +5
    17 March 2012 10: 12
    SHOT Crazy animals can not be re-educated, only shot.
    1. +3
      17 March 2012 10: 15
      as I wrote, I still need to earn her bullet
      1. sergeant1973
        +2
        17 March 2012 10: 27
        I agree the bullet must be earned Such bastards need to be hung
        1. 0
          17 March 2012 14: 11
          with a sign on his neck so that everyone would know who and for what wouldn’t be allowed to take pictures, and when the carcasses are strongly stolen, take them to a dump and throw them away
  6. +3
    17 March 2012 10: 14
    as long as such will be punished as simple criminality, nothing will change, to capture and burn
    1. 0
      17 March 2012 20: 19
      Vasilenko Vladimir,
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      burn and burn

      I did not understand where the typo "catch and burn" or "fuck and burn" drinks
      I like the second
      1. 0
        17 March 2012 22: 13
        catch, I beg your pardon, although the second option is also not what, find some kind of thread homosexual and .....
  7. grizzlir
    +6
    17 March 2012 10: 16
    These are not two bandits, these are two thugs who are called people do not have rights. It is high time to introduce an article in the criminal code on which crimes against the elderly were punished with the same severity as against young children. It’s difficult for older people to stand up for themselves, and those who go on such crimes know that they will not receive a rebuff.
    What is even sadder, often these crimes are committed by youngsters, the criminal prosecution of which is not possible due to their snotty age.
  8. Oleg0705
    +2
    17 March 2012 10: 18
    It's time to burn such individuals with a hot iron.
  9. +4
    17 March 2012 10: 22
    one word-hell. site rules do not allow to describe what I would do with them
  10. +4
    17 March 2012 10: 23
    Quote: grizzlir
    What’s even sadder is that it’s often youngsters who commit such crimes

    These youngsters have fathers, to ask them in this case, whom and how they raised, and they raised their children in general
  11. Region65
    +3
    17 March 2012 10: 28
    it was a case like that the scumbags of the veteran were killed and put into the eternal flame .. now these with their greetings from the fairy-tale character "Scumbags" ...... you need to cut them with a blunt knife in the throat.
  12. choice
    +2
    17 March 2012 10: 30
    the punishment for such .................., must be proportionate to the work done, I'm not saying that they need to be burned in public, they just have to disappear in a quiet but, in the same way as come up with it yourself.
  13. +1
    17 March 2012 10: 31
    I just can not imagine the degree of baseness and worthlessness of those people who can do this.

    Bandits - no, it's just geeks.

    The death penalty for them would simply cleanse the world of dirt.
    1. Aleksey67
      +1
      17 March 2012 10: 37
      Quote: EVIL
      Bandits - no, it's just geeks.


      Drugs are not people who kill mothers for pensions, they take the last out of the house, rob women, old people and children, because there is not enough health to overcome an adult man. The nation is sick and must be treated harshly. In many countries "for spreading" death, we either pay off or sit a little and for the old.
  14. snek
    +5
    17 March 2012 10: 35
    But you know what the lousy thing is. Everyone here says "shoot", "burn", "impale", etc. But none of this will happen. There won't even be a life sentence. In the very best case for society, they will be caught and imprisoned for 10-15 years, and when these creatures come out, no one except relatives will remember the veteran Pyotr Zhivotovsky. And there are even worse options - either they will not be caught at all, or some of them will have a dad or mom "with connections" and the rate will greatly decrease - after all, no one has died - they will be recorded as causing grievous bodily harm. and will give at most a couple of years. And from this it becomes disgusting.
  15. 755962
    +5
    17 March 2012 10: 38
    Here are BADS! Demonstrative COURT over geeks with wide media coverage. A separate article on such crimes!
  16. Nickolay3145
    +5
    17 March 2012 10: 43
    Significantly hang geeks!
  17. +3
    17 March 2012 11: 21
    Find and hang with a sign so that it hangs until the heat. All, the last case will be. And do not give a shit about rights and humanism. And it would be nice to get into Strasbourg!
  18. zol1
    +3
    17 March 2012 11: 28
    Our fathers and grandfathers gave their lives and destroyed the plague of the XX century, so that such scum, which is much worse than the Nazi evil spirits, mocked the veterans !!! DEATH and only DEATH to such bastards and, moreover, slow, painful, so that they would feel and it would be disgraceful for others to do such a thing! And do it publicly!
  19. +3
    17 March 2012 11: 28
    The drug is to blame! The Ministry of Internal Affairs is inactive! Current bottles can push from champagne .............
    Yesterday the little guy comes up, give me the little things .... I figure it out, why?
    Want to eat!
    I give a banana.
    I don’t eat bananas! Are you a man chtoli?
    That's how we live.........
    1. 0
      17 March 2012 22: 58
      What kind of censorship?
      Wrote: ,, What is a man about ......... l ?,
      Banned!
      Oh .............. L You can’t write ?????????????????????????????????? ??????
  20. Nechai
    +5
    17 March 2012 11: 29
    Quote: domokl
    I think the camp also has grandchildren of WWII veterans who will arrange a fun outing to the bastards.

    Do you think this can lead them on the path of goodness and justice? One dad turned to a psychologist with a question, when should he start raising his baby son? The specialist asked about the age of the child. - 5 years. The answer of a wise doctor is - daddy, you are already at least five years late! After all, these inhumans snatched the veteran's military awards from the suit, not to admire them. And they know where and from whom they can be quickly converted into loot. So the chain of scoundrels is much longer, unfortunately. From time to time discussing the negativity and crimes that are happening in the Country, we run into the same roots. Selfishness. Cynicism, etc., etc. The all-crushing thirst for profit. Repressive measures are necessary, of course. But society is also obliged to build its life on our traditional principles. And not "the achievements of technocratic and post-industrial civilization", slyly called and imposed on us by the media.
    1. +3
      17 March 2012 11: 33
      the death penalty is slaughtered
  21. BAT
    +4
    17 March 2012 12: 05
    Isn't it time to reintroduce such a concept as the death penalty in the RF Criminal Code? Maybe enough to follow the lead of the Western "democrats". The states have not abolished the death penalty and consider themselves to be the most democratic country. And we have too many scum and filth that really need to be burned out with a hot iron.
  22. ISRAEL
    +4
    17 March 2012 12: 15
    It is necessary to bang these not people and all !!!
  23. +2
    17 March 2012 12: 44
    the most offensive is that these urrods will sit at our expense, on our taxes
  24. zlibeni
    +5
    17 March 2012 12: 48
    as an option for you, that if you committed a crime the second time, that is, there’s a relapse so immediately the tower is given. The first time you are given the opportunity to correct it, and the second excuse was given a chance. but in this case, you need to strengthen the protection of people who have served time to know for sure what exactly he did.
    but about these, it seems to me they cannot be judged by the law at all. Animals are shot if they pose a threat to humans. Here's something like this
    1. +1
      17 March 2012 16: 28
      Quote: zlibeni
      as you option that if the second time has committed a crime that is, there is a relapse so immediately the tower.

      And in my opinion, people knew what they were doing! Here one must not forgive; here one must atone for his guilt so that they would forgive!
  25. +3
    17 March 2012 12: 59
    These freaks crossed all human and God's laws. Therefore, the judgment of man and God is not for them. For these nonhumans there is a Lynch court.
  26. Nechai
    +1
    17 March 2012 13: 10
    Now the news has passed. The fiends hid the stolen orders and medals under the bridge of the local river. The villagers found their "burial ground".
  27. mind1954
    +3
    17 March 2012 13: 14
    Well, how much can you savor these abominations ?!
    This is just one of those cases when you need to root
    wrest such crimes.
    In this case, physical terror is needed!
    It’s required to pass a war reward hunter law
    in which to judge them by the laws of war !!!
  28. Olivier
    +1
    17 March 2012 14: 03
    What is most important! Do not forget that these fiends him tied up and tried to burn alive. But the veteran who went through the whole war, who did not allow himself to be killed in the war, did not allow himself to be killed by these scumbags! This is what you need to remember.
  29. rolik
    +1
    17 March 2012 14: 07
    Here are the bright representatives of the full-time Gorbachev-Yeltsin rule. Individuals without honor, homeland, past, conscience. Moral ones who grew up on fertile soil of the 90s, when the best profession for girls was considered to be prostitution, and for guys to go to bandits.

    They do not allow writing a word in the characterization of the rule of Gorbi-Yeltsin. Very respect the morality of our vulnerable souls.
  30. Dahlia
    +1
    17 March 2012 14: 13
    So the generation of thugs, born in the frostbitten 90s, started their violent "activity" ... Cynicism, conscience - in the red, greed - "you deserve it", etc. etc. How many are there ?! If they also give birth to children ...
  31. Aleksey67
    +1
    17 March 2012 15: 08
    Dear forum users! Recently, unprecedented events have taken place, referring to a discussion in one of the topics, they begin to censor one-sidedly. Moreover, the farther, the more newly-born "censors" come to taste, the truth is also evident, "Appetite comes with eating." I myself have a negative attitude to obscene language (sometimes I use it in my life, but I try not to abuse it), but what is happening now can not be called lawlessness.
    We can be called "goyim", we can not write the word ""
    The word "pen dos" is prohibited, other literary words are prohibited.
    Correspondence with Tronin ( tronin.maxim ) horrified, it turns out that the person issuing "warnings" considers himself entitled to be considered "offended and offended" for the word "democracy" in relation to fascist Latvia


    I THINK POSSIBLE TO MAKE A DISCUSSION, BUT SOME OF THE "CROWN PRESSES" am
    1. +3
      17 March 2012 17: 18
      Alex, he also sent a warning to me, there are already two of us drinks
      1. SAVA555.IVANOV
        +1
        17 March 2012 21: 48
        I run into the third to be, take it !! ?? laughing
        I boil for anyone except a hunger strike !!!!
        Just anger can not be expressed otherwise than obscene !!!! (All the sages of the world said this)
        1. Aleksey67
          -1
          17 March 2012 21: 50
          Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV
          I run into the third to be, take it !! ??


          If everything goes well then the other day there will be a separate discussion, on the affairs of the lads wink While we wait drinks
  32. +2
    17 March 2012 15: 41
    I read somewhere that for every prisoner in Russia about $ 3000 is spent (security salary, service personnel, food, clothing, service buildings)
    The cartridge from AK 74 costs 7 cents in the USA.
    and many children have nothing to feed
    draw conclusions.
    many sit many times, for them the prison is their home
    I support the opinion after shooting two times.
  33. r.anoshkin
    +2
    17 March 2012 16: 42
    It’s not necessary to dig deeper, it’s not in relation to the old people and veterans of individual geeks - they were and will be (unfortunately). The case is in relation to the authorities. Yes, the provision of apartments for an incomprehensible year (this should have been done 10 years ago, and not to the next election) is good. But why for such actions in relation to a deputy, official, judge or policeman (even former) will be found in any case and soldered to the full? Because they have immunity. And do they have it? Ideally and in a normal country, everyone has it. For us, it’s only for the elect, who edostavlyayut.Urodskaya power, loving only himself-mount any nation.
  34. +1
    17 March 2012 17: 44
    When I read about these scumbags, I regret that the death penalty has been abolished!
  35. Odinplys
    +2
    17 March 2012 17: 45
    Find ... and bring to justice the conscience .... let the people, neighbors, relatives, Veteren decide ... how to punish this scum ...
  36. +2
    17 March 2012 17: 46
    catch and on the frontal place, on the KOL, such freaks need only be taught that way ... IMHO
  37. Hedgehog
    +2
    17 March 2012 19: 31
    sadly crying ((((((((((((((((
  38. -1
    17 March 2012 19: 53
    C'mon guys, why are you offended ... The site is private ... that the owner considers it necessary and doesn’t like it, bring it down ... Here, for example, on the answers to mile.ru, moderation can finally be sent to the center in Tomsk .... there are girls from Moldova and Ukraine they’re moderating according to their understanding .... And here it’s normal ... there are people serving in the army ... And finally I like the site ...
  39. SAVA555.IVANOV
    0
    17 March 2012 21: 29
    TO FIND THESE AND DESTROY, AND THE PRECINCT "GARBAGE" GENERALLY FUCKED AND RUNNED OUT AND CHANGE THE ATS LEADERSHIP, MORE THAN THIS IS THE "STUKACHARI-PROVOCATORS" THAT WE WOULD GET USED TO UNDERSTAND.
    WHEN FINDING THESE TO PAY ATTENTION TO NATIONALITY AND BELIEF.
    1. Shohmansur
      -3
      18 March 2012 00: 40
      Russian Orthodox.
  40. +1
    17 March 2012 22: 02
    A very nasty event is a crime. Nothing more to say. The main thing is that the state machine has proved its effectiveness and the principle of the inevitability of punishment has worked properly.
  41. fern
    +1
    17 March 2012 22: 03
    Damage what to say. Personally, it doesn’t even fit in my head how it is possible to raise a hand against an old man. especially Veteran. Well, I won’t even imagine such a scene in my head
    1. SAVA555.IVANOV
      +3
      17 March 2012 22: 27
      If someone ordered a "huckster" (drug dealer), for example, an order or several or something else, then the huckster orders the drug users awards for a certain "dose", and according to this scheme, this gandonyo has been working since 89. taking away everything of value from the people, sometimes along with life.
      Something is not going on in the Krasnodar and Stavropol Territories.
  42. +1
    17 March 2012 22: 10
    Guys! Stop bickering between us. You all perfectly see the general moral case, the weakest, most decent, most kind and harmless people and future generations suffer from it. What can be really opposed in a situation of inaction and corruption on the part of the state, indifference and indifference on the part of society? Honestly, the only phrase that comes to mind is that God created people so different, both strong and weak, but Colonel Colt equalized their capabilities. You are all smart people, I think you understood everything yourself. I wish you all good health and equal opportunities!
  43. +4
    17 March 2012 22: 15
    conclude an agreement with the Old Man and pass it to him, they have everything simple and fast
  44. +2
    17 March 2012 22: 58
    most likely the work of drug addicts, if we had the death penalty then this would not have happened
    1. SAVA555.IVANOV
      -5
      17 March 2012 23: 03
      Or maybe the veteran participated in "Lentils"
      1. evg5835
        0
        18 March 2012 00: 30
        Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV
        Or maybe the veteran participated in "Lentils"

        Explain your words.
        1. SAVA555.IVANOV
          -1
          18 March 2012 00: 49
          Perhaps he worked in certain structures and this is revenge, well, what kind of bastard would covet a veteran without good reason? Although the reasons are different for everyone, but still !? In the light of recent days, every such egregious incident may not be an incident at all. Who knows!? "Life is like a wheel"
          By the way, awards found
          1. +3
            18 March 2012 01: 03
            Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV
            Well, what kind of bastard would have posed for a veteran for no good reason?

            Savva, such episodes were shown on TV more than once, alas, the reasons are banal. There are not enough degenerates and not people of both sexes. More often women are seen in this (mostly pensions) and a large proportion of Gypsies.
  45. dok
    +2
    17 March 2012 23: 13
    Yab them with their own hands ... am
  46. +3
    18 March 2012 01: 08
    Quote: domokl
    Find and land

    Find and arrange lynching. Pour gasoline and burn All this is filmed on camera and posted on the Internet. Thugs should know that human laws like "imprison" are not for them. The police have to do it themselves or "not solve the crime" of those who will do such lynching.
    1. SAVA555.IVANOV
      +1
      18 March 2012 01: 17
      It’s time for someone (the Ministry of Internal Affairs) to take the side of the people, conscience and justice, and not money and meanness !!
  47. +3
    18 March 2012 01: 54
    For such freaks, it is necessary to abolish the death penalty, for which it was possible to sacrifice accession to the WTO. At stake plant thugs.
  48. +3
    18 March 2012 04: 53
    Quote: SF93
    For such freaks, you need to abolish the death penalty

    For such freaks, generally repeal human laws. So that everyone who catches could do what he wants with them. Lynching is the only true option. Those. if lynching was it is over this inhuman, and if mistakenly dealt with that, then I'm sorry, go to the zone. I would exclude from the list of citizens who have the right to protect society (i.e., on the same court) all pedophiles, such scumbags and maniacs. You can not judge such freaks at all! Just hang the photo and say - citizens, if you catch, then do anything with them. They should be excluded from the list of human beings. For a dead rabid dog do not put the same? So for lynching over such non-humans you can not put.
    I really hope that the police, having caught these coves, will not stand on ceremony with them, but will finish off when they try to escape.
  49. +1
    18 March 2012 05: 25
    Magadan,
    I am FOR, the only way this trash can be eradicated, but in general I am for the introduction of public flogging and execution for such monsters. Crap has cut off all the moral brakes.
  50. +1
    18 March 2012 13: 22
    There was infa on Channel One that they took two direct performers red-handed (found values, money and things). The third is running. I hope that they will suffer the appropriate punishment. The creatures that committed devilry in the temple were closed. I hope these will be closed for a long time and kicked well.
  51. hly
    0
    6 August 2012 19: 26
    sit! sit for a long time!!!