All power in Moscow - advice!

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Moscow, 2017 year. This slogan is again relevant, like a century ago. Only today Muscovites are already talking about municipal councils of deputies.

All power in Moscow - advice!




September 10 2017 in Moscow held elections of councils of deputies. A preliminary vote by United Russia that was held on 18 in May was a breeze that many active Muscovites were waiting for, but nothing unexpected happened.

Four days earlier, on May 15, almost all political consultants left Moscow with their teams. We went to the regions - to make gubernatorial campaigns. From the point of view of business, municipal elections are of no interest: almost all the candidates do it themselves, they do not have large budgets, they do not plan to unite.

In the summer there was the impression that only United Russia was leading the campaign in Moscow. Everything looked natural and correct. Only political consultants were embarrassed - they were not Moscow, but regional. Perhaps this was done to exclude affiliation with local elites and information leaks, or maybe because such specialists need to pay much less.

The real oppositionists joined the elections 14 days before the start of the vote, which was expected. And their tactics worked. According to the results of the 10.09.2017 elections, Xnumx “played” mandates from 1475 were taken by the Yabloko candidates who were passing the “Gudkov project”, 178 self-nominated candidates, most of whom are also affiliated with Dmitry Gudkov, the Communist 107 and even the 44 candidate from Parnassus will become district deputies.

Candidates from traditional parties: LDPR and Fair Russia took an unexpectedly bad run in the elections. The Liberal Democratic Party supported its candidates (5000 rubles to the electoral account and an unlimited number of the city's LDPR newspaper, which almost no one took because it is not interesting even to candidates from the Liberal Democratic Party). They, by the way, 949 people were nominated to the whole of Moscow, of whom only 5 really became the deputies. “Fair Russia” worked in inverse relationship: the candidates were nominated by half as many (519 people), and the elections won twice as much as the Liberal Democratic Party: the 10 candidates.

United Russia’s runway candidates expectedly took most of the mandates in Moscow — the 1151 mandate. So, 78% of municipal deputies in Moscow will be United Russia. This is victory! The winning percentage is even higher than in the elections to the State Duma in 2016. However, the party members are upset: they expected a "total" victory.

But Moscow has split: half of the municipalities caught fire with opposition sentiments and decided to take power and delegate it to the councils of deputies. Indeed, Lenin's ideas became relevant again 100 years later.

Among Moscow political technologists, a new term has even appeared - the “red belt”. This is the line that will turn out if we draw it in all the districts where the opposition leaders took the majority in the councils. It stretches from the South-West - Zyuzino, Gagarinsky, Lomonosovsky, Akademichesky, passes through the Central Administrative District - Khamovniki, Tverskaya, then to the North - Airport, Falcon; NEAD - Ostankino, again Central Administrative District - Krasnoselsky. It was supposed to end in Izmailovo, where 9 from 12 mandates were taken by the opposition. But the Eastern District played by its own rules and fenced from the center of Moscow by “strong” areas, Sokolniki and Sokolnaya Hill (United Russia 12 on 12 mandates) and Perovo - United Russia 14 on mandates.

Looking at the map, we can say that Moscow is divided. The eastern territories defended their power, and the South-Western Administrative Okrug, Central Administrative Okrug, and CAO gave power.
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  1. +8
    15 September 2017 05: 46
    among stealing bureaucrats, as a rule, membership in one party — guess what three times.
    1. +6
      15 September 2017 09: 43
      pleased that in those areas where with such pomp-black limousines, television people, cordons, etc., vvp and ladies voted, edro received zero.
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      1. +9
        15 September 2017 11: 31
        And what is so different for ordinary people EdRo different from the "Yabloko" or "Parnassus"? The same people from the Yeltsin-Gaidar gang of the gutters of Russia ....
        1. +11
          15 September 2017 13: 02
          Greg Miller Today, 11:31 ↑
          And what is so different for ordinary people EdRo different from the "Yabloko" or "Parnassus"? The same people from the Yeltsin-Gaidar gang of the gutters of Russia ....
          Greg ...?! Isn't that the very Greg “American” who can't get out of political talk shows ?!
          If you did not live in Russia in the 90s, then I have nothing to talk about with you! Those who lived remember very well how it was then and how it became now. If for you there is no difference, then you need to see an optometrist urgently, check your eyes ... Well, or a psychiatrist, otherwise it may not be in the eyes, but in the brain ...! fool
          1. +9
            15 September 2017 14: 46
            You know, the 90s ended 17 years ago (SEVENTY pancake). But Russia is still living badly. Maybe it's time to change something, or in 20 years you will remember the 90s ?!
            1. +14
              15 September 2017 15: 18
              Greenwood Today, 14:46 PM ↑ New
              You know, the 90s ended 17 years ago (SEVENTY pancake). But Russia is still living badly. Maybe it's time to change something, or in 20 years you will remember the 90s ?!
              Well, in general, everything is clear with one phrase! Your status says: "representative of progressive youth"! And that’s probably all said. How is your story ?! Like all "progressive youth" ?! Victim of the exam ?!
              For reference, Joseph Stalin took 17 years to overcome the devastation after the First World War and the Civil War and to carry out mass industrialization and collectivization of the country! Then it took another two five-year plans to overcome the post-war devastation. At the same time, the people did not live well, but plowed with sweat, because they knew that they were preparing for war, that they had to sacrifice themselves so that their children could live normally later.
              Now we turn to the Gorbachev-Yeltsin disruption, which is comparable in scope to the post-war. 17 years have passed. People say you live poorly ?! Yes, probably bad, but it depends on what to compare! Have you ever starved ?! Are you personally ready right now to tighten your belt and work without stopping, without days off, without holidays, without salary, and only for grocery cards ?! Are you ready for work and defense for the good of the fatherland ?! And for free, for no reason ?!
              NO?! Then do not yell that everything is bad! And then screaming at every corner that “was disappointing” is like that is all gulp, and make you work how your grandfathers and great-grandfathers worked right away in the bushes and whining! To live well, you must work well.
              I even predict that you will object to me now about the corruption of the authorities and the way oligarchs live. Well, about corruption, again, back to Stalin, let's find a new Lavrenty Pavlovich and he will quickly deal with corruption, but again, you and your kind will immediately raise a universal high. Because it turns out that your parents were arrested, because they took bribes or, on the contrary, tried to bribe an official with a bribe. And again it will begin: “what for us?” ?! So?! No?!
              Such as you will whine always and everywhere, and then you are wrong, and then you are not that way. You want everything at once, but it doesn’t! Immediately only cats will be born, but in order to live well you need to work hard and hard, which the generation of "progressive youth" does not accept. You need everything at once and at the same time so that you don’t hit a finger on a finger!
              So go whining somewhere else! It’s shitty for him, but you didn’t even sniff near what it’s shitty!
              1. +7
                15 September 2017 16: 14
                Sorry Madame, but somehow you are really cool skidded. A sort of hodgepodge. Not 17 years, but 27 years have passed. And zvizdet about cards is not worth it. Yes, they worked hard, but the constitution will allow myself to note in Art. The right to work provided for work - from each according to his ability, to each according to his work, but forgot about payment? Let me remind you of the quantity and quality (read in the modern edition and will not want to work selflessly).
                Young people are progressive or not, is a product of our life. And they didn’t choose the Unified State Exam, but they were forced on by older people (many students, after graduating from schools, hire tutors for money to fill in the gaps). We really didn’t begin to live better, but simply adapted. And we still have the politics of the 90s burping out in a terrifying vacuum when generations "studied" for managers, lawyers, accountants, dentists, in short, where you don’t need to work hard and there is a lot of money. And this is thanks to that - 90s and this 2000s policy - they are not ready to lay their heads for the Fatherland, to work hard - and especially not where (in the sense of production) and for a penny ("effective" managers row the lion's share for their effective "work" , according to the article on the right to work in the modern constitution ... remember the "golden parachutes" or the insanely "brilliant" children of the country's leadership)
                So before you “educate” young people, you should start with yourself.
                1. +8
                  15 September 2017 16: 22
                  Akkypamucm Today, 16:14 ↑
                  Sorry Madame, but somehow you are really cool skidded. A sort of hodgepodge. Not 17 years, but 27 years have passed.
                  Sorry, give you a calculator ?! 1924 years have passed from 1941 to 17, or is this a problem for you to calculate ?!
                  And zvizdet about cards is not worth it.
                  Well, of course, you can recall the collective farm workdays, if you want! Do not want to work hard for workdays ?!
                  And we still have a 90s policy burp terrifying vacum
                  So what am I talking about ?! About the same thing!
                  And this is thanks to that - 90s and this 2000s policy - they are not ready to lay their heads for the Fatherland, to work hard - and especially not where (in the sense of production) and for a penny ("effective" managers row the lion's share for their effective "work" , according to the article on the right to work in the modern constitution ... remember the "golden parachutes" or the insanely "brilliant" children of the country's leadership)
                  Concrete proposals have what to do with this ?! If this is a simple statement of fact, then it’s not worth it; I know all this without you.
                  So before you “educate” young people, you should start with yourself.
                  Golden words, I wrote this comment about it, only you either didn’t read it, or one of two!
                2. +5
                  15 September 2017 17: 28
                  I completely agree with the girl ... They do not live badly. They just do not want to work. Right now I’ll say a seditious thing ... But ... In Moscow, hundreds of thousands of visitors, damn where (yes, I myself am), and many make their way up without whining and moaning. And they start from the bottom. Without housing and documents.
                  We have two generations of freeloaders. The first generation is from the USSR. Which received everything for nothing (judging by the present times) -fartments, summer residences, education, distribution work, positions and ranks, and other social services. obligations from the state. And the next generation, that is, in fact the current generation ... who still has not realized that we live in a capitalist society. And the state, if you are competent, owes you nothing. The "invisible hand" of the market rules everywhere ...
                  They do not want to work and earn money. They want to get a decent salary ... Just to get a decent salary, you have to be really worthy ...
                  1. +4
                    15 September 2017 17: 37
                    And the state, if you are competent, owes you nothing.


                    Then a good question arises: If the state owes me nothing, then why should I owe it? A bunch of taxes and fees are being collected.

                    Well, if the state owes me nothing, then why should I pay him "nothing" for it? As one Nobel Laureate said in my opinion

                    “If a citizen is forced to pay for education and medical services, to accumulate a pension from his own funds, to pay housing and utilities in full at the market price, then why do I need such a state ?! Why should I still pay taxes and maintain a crazy army of officials? he always said at all levels that health care, education and science should be provided from the budget. If the state puts this concern on us, let it disappear, it will be much easier for us! "
                    1. +3
                      15 September 2017 19: 05
                      While you were not competent, the state provided you with education, free honey. service. When you again become unworkable and able to work, the state will again take upon itself the provision, albeit minimal ... In the meantime, you are healthy and active, work and build ...
                      All! The USSR ended 27 years ago! Now from each according to his abilities, and to each according to his work !!
                      1. +2
                        15 September 2017 19: 41
                        Well, I’m talking about the same thing: So you have to stop paying taxes that de jure go towards providing me and other members of the society, and if you believe it, then ... into the pocket of the oligarchs. Well, where can they still go if their designated goal does not fulfill?

                        The USSR ended 27 years ago! Now from each according to his abilities, and to each according to his work !!


                        From each according to his ability, to each according to his labor, under wild capitalism, it does not work out. That is why failed top managers receive millions and, when dismissed for banal professional incompetence, they grab huge "golden parachutes."
                      2. +3
                        15 September 2017 23: 38
                        Quote: already a Muscovite
                        Now from each according to his abilities, and to each according to his work !!

                        I'll see how you get paid according to your work ....
                        Probably trade piriel? What are you breathing in from goiters from maskquistan, they grabbed the star, the fate of the beard?lol
                      3. +3
                        15 September 2017 23: 50
                        Quote: already a Muscovite
                        Now from each according to his abilities, and to each according to his work !!

                        Said "already a Muscovite." And at home, what, according to their abilities, did not appreciate?
                  2. +3
                    15 September 2017 18: 14
                    already a Muscovite

                    Keep it up!
                  3. +3
                    15 September 2017 23: 34
                    Quote: already a Muscovite
                    Right now I’ll say seditious thing ... But ... In Moscow, hundreds of thousands of visitors, damn where (yes I myself am)

                    And why the hell did you go to Moscow, and not to the Far East, for example?
                    Worker, damn it ... I rushed for a fat piece, you're our example.
                    Quote: already a Muscovite
                    , and many make their way up without whining and moaning.

                    There is a category of people who thinks they went upstairs, but in fact, they surfaced there Yes
              2. +2
                15 September 2017 17: 08
                Very liberal notes in your message are immediately visible

                To paraphrase you:

                “Do you want the country to constantly evolve? How dare you! 111 They lived poorly in the 90s, which means you need to not just live badly now, but live worse than a couple of years ago.

                It was under these slogans that the two thousandth petrodollars were ineptly lived, which led the budget to a hellish deficit immediately after the fall in the officially inflated official cartel conspiracy of oil prices. And now FIGs to you, and not insurance medicine, for they cut the budget as they can, FIGs to you and not education because they cut the budget as they can, well, in order to somehow balance the debit with the loan, you still need to introduce taxes and fees and the ruble 2 times sharply throw that in the conditions of import dependence has reduced real incomes of the population by almost 2 times with the same work. It’s just that there was no war, the Nazis didn’t attack, and people work even harder than in 2007, but they get 2 times less at constantly rising prices.

                If the state of the country depended on the work of people, sometimes it seems to me that Israel, Finland, and Norway would envy us.

                And why? But because people like you justified idleness in 2007 and other well-fed years when oil cost $ 100-130 and this money could be spent on the development of the country. They didn’t just let us in, and even didn’t stumble about import substitution, but the authorities laughed openly when they offered to localize the production of vital drugs. "Are we Zimbabwe? Are we Chad? We have enough oil and dollars for another 100 years." And when, for example, HIV-infected people in a country with a generalized HIV epidemic stupidly didn’t get drugs, not even to increase coverage to the cherished 99%, but to maintain the provision of already receiving medical preparations. As a result, the Russian Federation shows an increase in the number of new infections while a number of African countries are no longer there. And here it was already necessary to convulsively, in a panic, in a terrible haste to import substitution in all areas because a real catastrophe was ripe.

                And you justify it at best, in the worst you and others like you work for Americans who are doing everything for the collapse of Russia and who have a strong Russia dream of terrible dreams.

                Well, to shut up the opponent more, you need to find more different words from the training manual.

                “Victim of the Unified State Examination!”, “Progressive Youth”, “You need everything at once, and at the same time so that you don’t hit one finger on the finger!”, “So go whining somewhere else! It’s shitty for him, but you it’s shitty, they didn’t even sniff close! "

                And these messages instill a typical liberal-pro-American idea that the destruction of the country is normal. It’s normal, after all, in the 90s it was worse, and when it becomes like in the 90s you’ll complain that it was worse under Stalin, and when it becomes like under Stalin you supporting the degradation of the Fatherland (although I doubt that it is for you) and the nation already remember the king. All if only inconvenient questions would not be asked, all that the country would not just not develop, but that would degrade and fall into the abyss.
                1. +9
                  15 September 2017 17: 16
                  rait Today, 17:08 ↑
                  Very liberal notes in your message are immediately visible
                  Are you talking to me?! I specially went in and looked at the date of your registration, it seems like not a newcomer, because only a newcomer could equate me with liberals!
                  In principle, I will not comment on all your nonsense, because it makes no sense to comment on nonsense! I can only say that you turned my whole comment upside down! It follows that you either did not carefully read or intentionally misinterpret my words and distort the facts. Therefore, either read carefully again, or go through the woods.
                  1. +4
                    15 September 2017 17: 24
                    But I do not equate, I read through your liberal-pro-American message. And it does not change from how long I was registered as the position you described. And I describe it as it was in meaning, every other user can read everything and draw conclusions who is right and who is not, who is liberal and who is not, who by all means justifies the degradation of the country, beneficial to the West, and who is not.

                    Naturally, when I caught you very unpleasantly on the described things, yes, so it’s useless to unlock it. All that you wrote is

                    In principle, I will not comment on all your nonsense, because it makes no sense to comment on nonsense!

                    or walk in the forest


                    Because even more dishonored and begin to deny the same written or even more so the current economic situation and the reasons for its occurrence naturally you do not need. It is much simpler and more profitable to call everything nonsense, expose yourself as the only right and slam the door loudly.
                    1. +4
                      15 September 2017 18: 19
                      It is much simpler and more profitable to call everything nonsense, expose yourself as the only right and slam the door loudly.

                      It’s easier not to talk to people like you.
                      For you, the country has degraded for 17 years - you are a psychiatrist and not a forum.
                      Adieu
                      1. +1
                        15 September 2017 18: 23
                        For you, the country has degraded for 17 years - you are a psychiatrist and not a forum.


                        Naturally, when there is no way to dispute, invent nonsense, ascribe it to your opponent and dispute it. Of course, you would not be able to comment on my words wherever I wrote "The country has been degrading since 2000," because there are none.

                        But there are contradictions to this

                        But because people like you justified idleness 2007 and other well-fed years when oil cost $ 100-130


                        So next time try better, read the message and invent something that has not been refuted there, otherwise you'll look bad. Well now.
            2. +5
              15 September 2017 18: 21
              But Russia is still living badly.

              Russia lives normally, not as you want to be “progressive,” but normal.
              It was and will be so
              1. +2
                15 September 2017 23: 03
                you not about it?

                1. Deputy Prime Minister Olga Golodets spoke about a unique Russian phenomenon when citizens of a country remain poor even when they have a job.

                “The poverty that exists and is fixed in the country is the poverty of the working population. This is a unique phenomenon in the social sphere - the working poor, ”TASS quoted the statement Golodets made at the Social Forum as part of Russian Business Week 2017.

                According to Golodets, in Russia there is no such qualification that would deserve a salary of 7,5 thousand rubles, which corresponds to the minimum wage level. The Deputy Prime Minister noted that even after a person has just graduated from high school, his work should be evaluated at a slightly different level.
                2. If we consider the last three years (from May 2014 to May 2017), the share of beggars more than tripled - from 3 to 10%, reaching not only the level recognized by official statistics, but also the maximum of the last time - May 2009, when the country was still just beginning to recover from the crisis of 2008-2009.

                The share of people with a middle class consumption level, which reached a maximum - 23% - just in May 2014 - decreased 1,6 times: to 14%. Worse (12%) was only in the post-crisis years 2009–2010, but in essence the trend will soon be taken.

                The share of the poor against this background remained almost the same, decreasing from 72 to 70%, but the poverty structure changed dramatically: the share of the poorest, lacking money for clothes, almost doubled - from 16 to 29%, and the level of “tolerant poverty” decreased from 56 to 41%.
              2. +2
                15 September 2017 23: 07
                maybe about it?
                The Russian dollar billionaires - and there are 27 such people in our country - since the beginning of the year have grown rich by $ 10,14 billion. This is evidenced by the data of the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, published on August 1.

                Aleksey Mordashov, the main shareholder of PAO Severstal and the richest man in Russia (his capital is $ 17,3 billion), increased his fortune by $ 2017 million from January to August 354. Interros President, second in the list of Russian billionaires ”And the chairman of the board of Norilsk Nickel Vladimir Potanin received $ 16,6 million - his fortune currently stands at $ 16,6 billion. The head of the Renova group, Viktor Vekselberg, earned $ 1,34 billion and ended up in third place with capital in $ 15,6 billion

                The head of the board of directors of the Novolipetsk Metallurgical Combine Vladimir Lisin increased their wealth most by $ 1,82 billion, the main shareholder of USM Holdings Alisher Usmanov - by $ 1,77 billion, and Oleg Deripaska, president of UC Rusal and En + Group - by $ 1,76 , XNUMX billion
              3. +2
                15 September 2017 23: 08
                Quote: bk316
                Russia lives normally

                Even someone is very good, but not all:
                According to the chairman of the Accounts Chamber, Tatyana Golikova, the number of citizens living below the poverty line in the first quarter of 2017 alone increased by two million people to 22 million. And where 4,9 million workers get their salaries at the minimum wage. That is - mocking 7800 rubles.

                One can, of course, be comforted in the fact that property stratification even in developed countries has grown since the mid-1990s, and that almost everywhere in the world the rich have become richer and the poor have become poorer. This, in particular, is stated in a study by OECD analyst Mikkel Hermansen. According to him, the incomes of almost 80% of the population with an average income from 1995 to 2013 increased by about 10%, or by 0,5% per year. While 5% of the wealthiest citizens became 20-30% richer. The total income in the lower decile for all developed countries in this period either did not grow or fell down to 10%.

                However, the same Hermansen notes that in 17 OECD countries the average income of the poorest citizens has increased. But Russia, it is easy to guess, does not apply to such countries.
              4. +2
                15 September 2017 23: 43
                Quote: bk316
                Russia lives normally, not as you want to be “progressive,” but normal.

                Do you really live in Russia?
                Or maybe scribbling for 3,7 comments?
                If you want to "live normally" see the congresses in the city of Apatity, and then we’ll see if you’re going to gobble here or not sad .
              5. +1
                16 September 2017 15: 29
                Quote: bk316
                Russia lives normally, not as you want to be “progressive,” but normal.
                I work in the civil service, i.e. not for uncle, not for himself, but for our beloved state. I observe active salary cuts, cancellation of bonuses, additional days to leave. Several waves of staff cuts have already passed in our service, departments are unifying, the load on the remaining employees has sometimes increased significantly, and salaries have decreased compared to 2013-14. And the prices for this time were robust.
                In related and related government agencies, I heard the same situation.
                Well, in what place do we live normally, and, dear? Or are you broadcasting to us from the center of Moscow? Well, we can still live there normally, but in our city in Vladivostok it’s somehow a bit shitty.
              6. +1
                16 September 2017 16: 14
                this is normal?
                “Those reforms that the Ukrainian authorities could not push through here in Crimea were successfully pushed through by the Russian authorities,” said the doctor at Alupka Polyclinic No. 3. - Reforms aimed at the collapse of medicine. This is going on in many ways, from all sides. ”
                http://news.allcrimea.net/topnews/
                or are they enemies of the people, daughters of an officer, or as is customary to call urapatriots?
  2. 0
    15 September 2017 05: 50
    Four days earlier, on May 15, almost all political strategists left Moscow with their teams. We left for the regions to do governor campaigns.


    That's all about modern elections. Whose team is stronger - that will be chosen. At least a cat.
    Thresholds are needed when nominating candidates. The citizen index, formed according to the parameters necessary for the state.
  3. +1
    15 September 2017 07: 46
    178 were taken by Yabloko candidates who passed the “Gudkov project,” 107 self-nominated candidates, most of whom are also affiliated with Dmitry Gudkov

    If someone continues to clap their ears hoping for "democracy" and the most "powerful" party, while constantly looking back and what the West will say, then this may end sadly in a few years (the next youth is growing up, which Russian Westerners are very good at) . Then we wake up in the morning, and in power "EBNy, Yakovlev, Kozyrev, etc." Goodbye Russia?
    1. +1
      15 September 2017 07: 55
      Quote: rotmistr60
      178 were taken by Yabloko candidates who passed the “Gudkov project,” 107 self-nominated candidates, most of whom are also affiliated with Dmitry Gudkov

      If someone continues to clap their ears hoping for "democracy" and the most "powerful" party, while constantly looking back and what the West will say, then this may end sadly in a few years (the next youth is growing up, which Russian Westerners are very good at) . Then we wake up in the morning, and in power "EBNy, Yakovlev, Kozyrev, etc." Goodbye Russia?

      And if you continue the thought, it turns out ----- Crimea want to return to Ukraine, KALININGRAD ---- to give
      Geyrop, about the Far East if they forget about it at all ...... !!!!!!!!!!
  4. +2
    15 September 2017 07: 49
    Personally, I lived in Moscow for 35 years. Now, for family reasons, he left for St. Petersburg. I consider such elections to be lost at the municipal level to Jews from the USA. The Moscow authorities simply did not attach importance to working at enterprises with specialists. Indeed, in Moscow there are 305 defense industry enterprises, this is the backbone of the city. And Yabloko Jews will lead Moscow into chaos. This is their style. I have the honor.
    1. +3
      15 September 2017 10: 58
      Quote: midshipman
      And Yabloko Jews will lead Moscow into chaos. This is their style.

      And why does it all work out? Yes, because an expert on the Jewish question, well acquainted with their work style, left for St. Petersburg and left the capital unattended - there was no one to bring the truth to the workers of Moscow defense industry enterprises .... crying
      It seems that even in St. Petersburg now the Jews in general and the Yabloko Jews, in particular, have no chance .... am Governor Poltavchenko can sleep peacefully .... good
      1. +1
        15 September 2017 11: 13
        The Jews have their own state, there they are. And let them into power, run the kagal.
    2. +8
      15 September 2017 11: 30
      And now we need to think at the helm of others, yes! And complete order, yes!
      The same just keep quiet, with fat. Everything is fine with them, people don’t care.
      So Vladimir Vladimirovich will again go to the polls as an independent "self-nominated candidate", which is rather ironic given his position in the state elections. the thought of the "party of the president." Flies to you, cutlets to us. But is it not his government now? Isn't he responsible for him? Thieves sit under house arrest in townhouses or amnesty, some kings do not hesitate to be rude to ordinary people, otherwise they threaten, etc. Who is responsible for all these non-humans !?
      And the “smart” people again will either not go, or go to vote for the marginals, or stupidly forget about EP completely at how they burn and drown at home, about crime and 80% of mujahideen on the streets, about “we had to go in business "and other outright mockery and bullying. And also because he was frightened again that if you vote wrong, then there will certainly be a war or something else.
      A log in the eye ... What kind of people - such and power.
  5. +3
    15 September 2017 09: 36
    From where, interestingly, did the fetid disgusting carrots drop - the gudkov so much dough?
    1. +1
      15 September 2017 11: 35
      "He's so gullible ...))))"
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQfkZBWb40I&f
      eature = youtu.be & t = 3984
    2. +2
      15 September 2017 18: 22
      Where from !? - FROM THERE!
  6. +2
    15 September 2017 10: 37
    Well, as always in propaganda, half the truth. The reason that the Yabloko received (and the Communist Party lost 4 / 5 of their deputies, from 212 to 43) is quite simple. “Yabloko” opposed the renovation., And the Communist Party in the Duma supported it (I don’t know who made such an idiotic decision in the Central Committee, but in my opinion, as a communist, insanity is growing in our elite, it’s time to change it for a long time). Plus there are several more factors - there was no mass notification of the elections, very serious frauds. Here are extracts from the article “Anxiety of Quiet Elections”, Soviet Russia from 12.09.
    “Neither information stands, nor announcements about their holding, nor leaflets with the addresses of polling stations in the mailboxes of citizens. Almost no information about the elections and candidates in the official Moscow media. Campaign leaflets and posters of opposition and independent candidates were destroyed. And pro-government ones were distributed exclusively pointwise (for example, in clinics, councils of veterans, etc.). But the entire address is aimed at mobilizing their (that is, controlled) electorate. They say workers from budgetary institutions will come they’ll be instructed in advance how to vote. And the rest do not need to know at all about the elections. "Moscow’s task is to ensure that the turnout is 10 – 12%, because if everyone who is dissatisfied comes to the polls, the United Russia party will have no mandates," - said, in particular, the head of the Communist Party faction in the Moscow City Duma, Andrei Klychkov.
    Even the head of the Central Election Commission, Ella Pamfilova, demonstrated the spacing to the chairman of the Moscow City Commission Valentin Gorbunov. She actually admitted the failure to inform citizens about the elections and demanded to “rectify the situation” so that the enormous work was not crossed out ..... the Moscow municipal elections were accompanied by a wave of violations. Even before the start of the count, more than 500 complaints were filed.
    So, in the Novo-Peredelkino district, the leadership of the council, not hiding, was preparing election fraud. A video appeared on the Internet in which the first deputy head of the council, Svetlana Antonova, explains to PEC representatives how to make the ballot invalid, and passes the chubby envelopes with some kind of reward. The scandal turned out so loud that Sergei Sobyanin was forced to react - he fired the entire leadership of the council, headed by chairman Yuri Nosenko. "
    There is still a lot of interesting things, I advise you to read
    1. 0
      15 September 2017 14: 11
      Terrible doubts torment ...... Is it really by chance? ...... A lot of things started, which was explained by pure coincidence ---- the Arab spring, for example. Independence Square in Ukraine was explained by spontaneous popular indignation. And someone fed these elemental ..... Toilets provided ....... Yes, refugees, allegedly from Syria, fled to the geyropa unorganized, but it turned out not from Syria, from other places .... And the organizers were. ...
      And no successful event will happen if it is not financed ...... $$$$$ ..... €€€€€ ..... grandmas ..
      .... grannies ......
  7. +1
    15 September 2017 14: 16
    working daily with Muscovites, I had a double opinion: some Muscovites don't care (there is a financial support), some are patriotic and love the GDP wholeheartedly, and the whole mess in the capital dumps on local authorities and direct service providers. At the same time, when in communication, when discontent arose, they did not consider themselves guilty of the message "they themselves chose this power". The thinking part is negatively directed towards Sobyanin, and the more he destroys Moscow (in the literal and figurative sense), the greater is the rejection not only of him, but also of GDP. In St. Petersburg, a similar picture. To not talk on the box, but at Meadow it was better. Yes, under Olenevod, Moscow became cleaner, but life became worse. GDP lost the battle for Moscow. Only ignoring the Muscovites allows the EP to take power. Although what kind of power is it, if the Reindeer Herder decides everything. It was not for nothing that the State Duma removed the turnout threshold and it was not for nothing that the elections were held on good days; At the presidential election, an administrative resource will be included - in the last election, the leader had to present a photo of his voting ballot. Let's see what happens in the 18th
    1. 0
      15 September 2017 16: 22
      Have you personally seen many who truly sincerely admit their mistakes?
      1. 0
        15 September 2017 16: 35
        I personally admit, I can not vouch for the rest
    2. avt
      +1
      15 September 2017 16: 25
      Quote: Overlock
      To not talk on the box, but at Meadow it was better.

      And here the chick of a nest of navalnyakersky jumped.
      Quote: Overlock
      Only ignoring the Muscovites allows the EP to take power. Although what kind of power is it, if the Reindeer Herder decides everything.

      fool In the city, it was the mayor's office that power, and not yours, who jumped into the mundeps with the aim of seeping further into the federal level. Well, to try, as one mundepka herself laid out herself, to drank along the road. But this is her only way - lips and past. All your mundeps are not even a couple of the very councils of deputies of the regional times of the USSR, about which the author is buggy. Those really had weight. And this current slag is built by the way according to the German system by the liberals, of course, but also merges into nowhere. They never worked anywhere in their life and never studied (see what type, high school "mdep Yashin graduated), and they won’t. Because it’s not the USSR, there’s not enough patience to listen to city district crazy people. But I’ll vote for Sobyanin, although It would be for the MCC, which ,, the best mayor of all times and peoples "sawed with Resin not childishly and did not cut, but for Luzhniki, who again revived from Puddles and closed Cherkizon with tents throughout Moscow In which the cash was rolled back with a rollback to Luzhkov Zadeh .
      1. +1
        15 September 2017 16: 37
        And you see from the pan-panhead? My opinion coincides with the opinion of my colleagues. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, and not everyone has been given the opportunity to understand someone else's opinion and draw conclusions from it. And then, rudeness does not decorate. Lack of education, a difficult childhood, vitamin deficiency?
        1. +3
          15 September 2017 18: 25
          My opinion coincides with the opinion of my colleagues.

          And with whom are you serving? What ruin flag?
          1. 0
            15 September 2017 22: 31
            this is the answer to our “successes” and “Krymnash”: as in Crimea, does the Russian Internet provider and the Russian search engine identify Crimea as Ukraine? These are not cheers, these are businessmen and their position does not coincide with the position of the leadership of the Russian Federation. Like in Sberbank, for example.
        2. avt
          +1
          15 September 2017 18: 48
          Quote: Overlock
          My opinion coincides with the opinion of my colleagues.

          bully Yeah! Of these
          I myself have not seen Paul. But you do not hope. The Cossack hacked him. Saber.
          Quote: Overlock
          but not everyone was given an understanding of other people's opinion and conclusions from it.

          Where are we going to get there. We then just live our minds and judge by the fact that in the process of time we observe and compare, and not about
          Quote: Overlock
          daily working with Muscovites,
          behind
          Quote: Overlock
          when Meadow lived better.
          Where are these same masquerades with whom you are banging at work then? An hour not at Cherkizrna in the sesugite? Then I believe - it’s really worse for them now, not like when the investigator who came in at the shoulder straps cracked her on the shoulder straps. But for others, breathing is easier and freer to walk along the updated Cherkizovskaya, and on Lokomotiv it became almost like in the days of the USSR - freely and cleanly, in spite of the remaining two torzhischi, one was converted to Attack.
          Quote: Overlock
          And you see from the pan-panhead?

          So it's you with your
          Quote: Overlock
          Muscovites

          drink here for
          Oh in the meadow, in the meadow
          With a happy share,
          With a familiar herd
          The horse walked in the wild!
          Well, go on. None of the above-mentioned Pavel felled from the bank, "Moscow" did not swim in shares. But this is not for me, this is for a specialized medical specialist.
      2. +1
        15 September 2017 17: 04
        Do you think that Sobyanin and the company have less kickbacks? Was there enough paving slabs for everyone? Did you get sold out hospital buildings? On the "bird" to whom kickbacks go? Meadow? Who turned a shopping center Moscow into a brothel, Meadow? And who spouts the Ring? And in big Moscow, who is cutting the loot? Paid parking lots everywhere and road restructuring - have traffic jams decreased significantly? This is not the whole list.
        1. avt
          0
          15 September 2017 18: 58
          Quote: Overlock
          Do you think that Sobyanin and the company have less kickbacks?

          Where did I write this?
          Quote: Overlock
          Was there enough paving slabs for everyone?

          What is sweet? Lost a bit. bully Luzhkov began to lay the tile. But this is true mystery and mystery for true Muscovites, like plastic seats in the stadiums of haute couture Madame Baturina .... from Vladimir bully
          Quote: Overlock
          On the "bird" to whom kickbacks go?

          ,, Bird "Where is territorially?
          Quote: Overlock
          Who turned a shopping center Moscow into a brothel, Meadow?
          bully Oh, these masked men! Well, if you want to find out so much, then look for a CTO and find out in what proportions you sailed with Telman in Moscow, where partially your legs were taken from Cherkizon and Bird, what black cash fell into the demolished pavilions, by the way, and stayed in the "European" and on the Moscow river with pleasure boats. Here's to start to find out, then come with adult attempts to talk about, Here's a cap for you to carry everywhere "Well, by the way, for
          Quote: Overlock
          And who spouts the Ring?

          What is so excited? Got with a family of deputies Gudkov with his
          Quote: Overlock
          the opinion of my colleagues

          What did they raise his PSCs in the construction market? bully As the family rose then in kugs. sesugiti? Surname Karabanov says something? So before you read overlock here, first find out who to whom
          Dear Luzhkov-zade gave a residence permit in the city
          We now live in Moscow, buy, sell.
          Dear Luzhkov-zade on tebe cap nasi everywhere
          That everyone could understand, we are your bees, you are our mother!
          Since the foundation ,, Puddles "under Alyoshin.
          1. 0
            15 September 2017 22: 38
            You see, you don’t know where the “bird” is, but you sign it for Muscovites. “I haven’t read it, but I don’t agree,” “Is there my opinion and is it correct” - your slogans? The machinations of Meadow and Sobyanin are not interesting to me. Another thing is important that Muscovites have lost a lot, but you are not a Muscovite, you do not understand. By the way, I’m not happy for myself, everything is fine with me, but working with Muscovites, I can’t say the same about them.
            For fun, how many bodies are buried in Moscow daily? I can enlighten: with a meadow -800-1000, with a reindeer herder-1200-1300. So success is evident. Before I state a different opinion than in the box in Moscow I recommend studying the problem from the inside. will not be so unfounded
            1. avt
              0
              16 September 2017 10: 04
              Quote: Overlock
              You see, you don’t know where the “bird” is, but you sign it for Muscovites.

              bully Oh, these masked men are indigenous to me! bully Well, also me, enlighten "how and where," Bird "was BEFORE moving beyond the Moscow Ring Road and as it was then officially called. fool
              Quote: Overlock
              but you’re not a Muscovite, you don’t understand.

              bully
              Quote: Overlock
              By the way, I’m not happy for myself, everything is fine with me, but working with Muscovites, I can’t say the same about them.

              bully Sick Radey is better for some other region, we don’t need such guardians for our colleagues ..
              Quote: Overlock
              Before I state a different opinion than in the box in Moscow I recommend studying the problem from the inside. will not be so unfounded

              Especially when, you’re happy, it’s on the TV box and computer monitor.
          2. +2
            15 September 2017 22: 48
            Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin seems to have decided to follow the path of his predecessor, Yuri Luzhkov, and help his wife Irina build family capital. The Mayor intends to replace about 4 million square meters of asphalt pavement in the Garden Ring with tiles. At the same time, experts have no doubt that the Aerodromstroy company, owned by the mayor’s wife, who was called “Ira Border” at the place of former Sobyanin’s service in Tyumen, will fulfill the “high order”.
            As you can see, both are good !!!!
    3. +2
      15 September 2017 18: 28
      when Meadow lived better

      What is a "better life"?
      Answer this question, just think first ...
      And as regards GDP, cut yourself on the nose and there, at your “colleagues”, tell us that with a resource, that without, GDP will definitely win.
      1. avt
        0
        15 September 2017 19: 51
        Quote: bk316
        What is a "better life"?

        In their understanding, it is that the shepherd should graze the rams, Well, Shalva Chigirinsky in Zaryadye, Shakro Molodoy in the Golden Palace there, and here the whole
        Quote: Overlock
        Yes, under Olenevod, Moscow became cleaner, but life became worse.

        Garbage is forced to clean and sheep reindeer herder began to graze! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Not only that shears, but also saws horns!bully Here they are the rams, the park in Zaryadye and trampled. By the way! Hey!
        Quote: Overlock
        with the opinion of my colleagues.

        How is it about the park - a fairy tale cooler than Disneyland from the Tseretali shepherd? Well, to which the landowner Luzhkov-zadeh cut off the river to Moscow. Already building? bully I'm not in coogs. For the water park at VDNKh (where the shepherds, the reindeer breeder "dispersed") in Kuhs, and for this "Disneyland", as well as for the Luzhkov highway of Formula 1 in place of ZiL, no. bully
        1. +1
          15 September 2017 22: 46
          By the way, on the site of ZIL, the reindeer herder of the VIP-house built “birds” for metro builders and workers, shopping centers are a sight for sore eyes. Everything for a man with money! Take an interest in prices
          1. avt
            0
            16 September 2017 10: 13
            Quote: Overlock
            By the way, on the site of ZIL, the reindeer herder of the VIP house built “birds” for metro builders and workers, shopping centers are a sight for sore eyes.

            All? Hello? For
            Quote: avt
            How is it about the park - a fairy tale cooler than Disneyland from the Tseretali shepherd? Well, to which the landowner Luzhkov-zadeh cut off the river to Moscow. Already building?

            And the reluctance to answer the price of this land? Immediately moved to ZIL. bully
            Quote: Overlock
            Are you satisfied with the medical service of Moscow and its reform? Have you been a patient of the city network?

            Satisfied, because I use it.
            Quote: Overlock
            Are you comfortable with renovation?

            I would be happy if I lived in a shrewd house, because I know the difference between a five-story brick building, albeit a cramped one, and barracks from Park number streets that were still captured by the Germans, but with worn-out panels. But the guardian of Moscow, according to the words, “Muscovite colleagues”, cannot understand this, nor about
            Quote: Overlock
            Are you comfortable with parking?

            From the same Muscovites and their guardians, who decided that once they bought a car, then surely now everyone should bow to them like nobles and prostrate themselves as they approach, but rush to clear them a place for their car, where their darling parked . No sweethearts. Do you like to ride, love and carry a sleigh.
      2. 0
        15 September 2017 22: 39
        regarding the victory of GDP I DO NOT HAVE DOUBT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! With such support, you won’t win!
    4. +2
      15 September 2017 18: 56
      and where in the capital is a mess? or I have completely different ideas about the mess ...
      1. 0
        15 September 2017 22: 40
        Are you satisfied with the medical service of Moscow and its reform? Have you been a patient of the city network? Are you comfortable with parking? Are you comfortable with renovation? Are you happy with the redrawn Moscow to eliminate traffic jams, which have not decreased? etc. etc.
        1. 0
          16 September 2017 01: 55
          Honey service is very good. Recently, in the direction of a neurologist, I did an extraction of the spine, 10 sessions, for free. An ambulance so silent in general, arrives in 15 minutes ... Parking and traffic jams, problems of the same order, and they can be solved only by reducing the number of citizens. So, here the mayor with any last name will be extreme. And renovation ... What are you worried about ?? She will not touch you. And at home it will really be necessary to demolish. The trouble is that our people are suspicious of a freebie. Would make this renovation, for a little money ... The line would be lined up, like a mausoleum, in the best years ..
  8. +2
    15 September 2017 18: 38
    would,
    And I describe it as it was in meaning, every other user can read everything and draw conclusions who is right and who is not, who is liberal and who is not, who by all means justifies the degradation of the country, beneficial to the West, and who is not.


    From this it follows that you say that the country is degrading?
    In general, if you want to be understood correctly, first learn to write without spelling errors and put commas.
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  10. 0
    15 September 2017 20: 37
    would,
    Why do the oligarchs your and my taxes? Do you really think that the oligarchs are getting richer from our taxes?
    1. 0
      15 September 2017 22: 44
      Do not tell me why Rotenberg received tax benefits, but a simple citizen did not? Pay taxes and sleep. Good promise, but not for everyone.
      1. 0
        16 September 2017 02: 06
        Well, firstly, not tax benefits, but the right to refuse the residence of the Russian Federation. Namely, not a resident of the Russian Federation is exempt from taxes. Secondly, he waived this right. (Although I could be wrong, I just read it somehow, but now we have such a press that we need to double-check after a pause ... I didn’t do that ...)
    2. 0
      16 September 2017 05: 20
      Yes, why do oligarchs give a good tens of percent of the budget of the Russian Federation? "Trifle".

      As for example, "Plato" which is absolutely "no reason" only officially gives 10 billion rubles a year to Rotenberg's company.
      1. +1
        16 September 2017 16: 10
        Well, the pay for multi-ton still had to be introduced. It exists in all countries. And if it weren’t for sanctions, it would have been introduced anyway, but it would have been possible to pay, like Vinci, Autostrade, Siemens, Skytoll ...
        1. 0
          16 September 2017 16: 14
          Firstly, you jumped so abruptly from the topic and into the statement that officially 10 billion from the Plato de facto tax is paid personally to the oligarch’s company (and it’s kind of like a friend of himself ... !!!) of Rottenberg you didn’t answer anything by translating everything into "it was necessary to introduce Plato or not."

          Secondly, Russia is not everything and should not be done like everyone else, but as best as possible for itself, darling. And so that it would not be in Russia say, "And there in the West ...", and in the West they said "And there in Russia ... !!!". By the way, Plato is not in all countries.
          1. 0
            17 September 2017 02: 04
            I didn’t jump anything ... Or do you think that people should work for free, thanks? At the behest of the soul of a true communist? Open the wiki and see what Plato is. Everything is readily presented there. You see how I hate this Rotenberg so much that you can’t eat ... The country now has different rules and laws, and everyone knows them. I don’t understand why you don’t have such a clear hatred of Chubais, Prokhorov, Khodorkovsky, Friedman, Usmanov and others ... What did you get to know of Rotenberg before that. I’m talking about him, only in such disputes I found out ...
            1. 0
              17 September 2017 06: 57
              However, as you continue to run away from the topic of the fact that the state tax is collected by a private shop, apparently a very uncomfortable question. And so you dodge, and so, already trying to translate into

              Chubais, Prokhorov, Khodorkovsky, Friedman, Usmanov


              which however is an uncomfortable question for you.
              1. 0
                17 September 2017 15: 32
                Yes, why not a convenient question then? This truck charging system was still needed. And it had to be created from scratch. From the very beginning it was planned to give in private hands. This company is the same operator as Megafon or Beeline. How much they get, nobody cares ....
                1. 0
                  18 September 2017 05: 30
                  How, however, you run away from the question, what horror does it cause you, you begin to lie already

                  . This company is the same operator as Megafon or Beeline.


                  You’re lying badly, neither Beeline nor Megafon levy taxes. They are not “the same operators”, unlike Mr. Rottenberg’s company, which levies state taxes and officially leaves itself a huge amount.

                  This truck toll system


                  The oligarchs are beyond any doubt, but as for the people, to put it mildly, I’m not sure, even if the money went not to the oligarchs.
  11. 0
    15 September 2017 22: 53
    Quote: avt
    So it's you with your
    Quote: Overlock
    Muscovites

    incite hatred in the place where people live? not good! Indeed, the opposite can also be said! By the way, I'm not a Muscovite, but it’s a shame to read for Moscow. Moscow is different, rich and poor, like all cities of the country. Look at Krasnodar, Belgorod - a sight for sore eyes, I'm not sure what apartments get there. rather than buying.
    1. avt
      0
      16 September 2017 10: 23
      Quote: Overlock
      incite hatred in the place where people live? not good!

      bully
      [/ Quote] bully
      Tiny son
      to the father came,
      and asked the little one:
      - What
      good
      and that such
      badly?-
      I
      there are no secrets
      listen kids

      For starters, but actually, as I already said, to a specialized specialist. And then even here you get confused. Then
      Quote: Overlock
      My opinion coincides with the opinion of my colleagues

      Which kind of like even [quote = Overlock] daily working with Muscovites,

      And then suddenly rrr-times and they suddenly
      Quote: Overlock
      Communicating with guests of the capital, you will learn worldly truth firsthand, and not from a box.

      bully Since either put on your underpants or remove the cross. Better visit Moscow. But if
      Quote: Overlock
      You don’t have such an opportunity, but sorry

      Do not get into a debate about what you have no idea, much less in comparing the situation in time.
  12. 0
    15 September 2017 22: 57
    Quote: avt
    Where are these same masquerades with whom you are banging at work then? An hour not at Cherkizrna in the sesugite?

    banging on cameras. and we have an excellent production relationship. We work for the benefit of Moscow. Muscovites and guests of the capital both from the territory of the Russian Federation and from near and far abroad. Communicating with guests of the capital, you will learn worldly truth firsthand, and not from a box. You don’t have such an opportunity, but sorry
  13. 0
    15 September 2017 23: 15
    Quote: avt
    In their understanding, it is that the shepherd should graze the rams, Well, Shalva Chigirinsky in Zaryadye, Shakro Molodoy in the Golden Palace there, and here the whole

    and how are they better or worse than representatives of the authorities?


    1. Analysts of the Ministry of Internal Affairs are sounding the alarm: recently they hit the bottom line on crime and offenses in the ranks of police officers for 2015, which speak of their growth. Over the year, 3,5 employees and police chiefs got caught in various crimes in Russia, which is almost 10 percent more than in 2014. Most often, law enforcement officers were caught on corruption and official crimes. The police also stole, traded drugs, committed traffic accidents and, despite the ban, went on vacation abroad. Stable leaders in violations are the economic security and anti-corruption units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

    2. The operatives of the central office of the FSB detained five officers of the special services department in Moscow and the Moscow Region while trying to extort bribes from the leadership of NITI named after PI Snegirev.
    Extortionists threatened employees of the defense enterprise with a criminal case if they refused to pay.
  14. 0
    16 September 2017 16: 17
    Quote: already a Muscovite
    spine traction

    Enlighten me, with 35 years of experience as a doctor, what is this? Apparently they are making money! Hoods of the spine do not exist, for the spine cannot be pulled out
  15. +1
    16 September 2017 17: 01
    Dear readers, I am the author of this article.
    I thank everyone for your interest and reasoned comments.
    Many of you write about dissatisfaction with corruption, and about the fact that municipal deputies do not decide anything.
    About corruption - the truth is, it is. However, I believe that today in Moscow, the decision to participate or not to participate in corruption schemes is the personal choice of every resident of the city, businessman or official; and not the "only way out", an action perfect from hopelessness.
    I also have to disagree about the helplessness and futility of municipal deputies - they solve quite a lot of issues that each of us faces. Over the past 5 years, quite a lot of functions have been transferred to the Councils of Deputies from the Administration of the Regions. Now the government is a more helpless body than the municipal Council of Deputies.
    Your opinion is interesting, write :)