Kiev buys Polish ammunition

The Ukrainian state-owned company Spetsteknoexport has concluded a contract with the Polish private company WB Electronics SA for the purchase of a batch of unmanned anti-aircraft ammunition for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, reports bmpd with reference to the resource www.defence24.pl.

Unmanned warp ammunition Warmate developed by the Polish company WB Electronics (included in the WB Group).

The cost of the contract is not disclosed.

Warmate is a sample of the one-time kamikaze drums popular in recent times.

According to WB Electronics, this is a “miniature UAV weighing 4 kg with an electric motor and a folding wing, equipped with a warhead weighing 0,7 kg - cumulative GK-1 (100-120 mm armor penetration) or fragmentation GO-1 (contains 300 grams of TNT)”.

It is reported that "the flight range of the device is up to 10 km, the locking time is up to 30 minutes, the speed is up to 150 km / h, the flight altitude is from 30 to 3000 meters." The UAV directs the operator from the control panel. The launch is made pneumatically from a container PU (portable single-charge or portable 21- and 40-charging).

Earlier, the Polish company reported sales of UAVs in two countries of the Middle East, as well as the delivery of a small batch of special forces "one of the European NATO countries."

Comments

[Aaron Zawi]

To combat mortar and machine gun positions, a very serious machine.

[vkl.47]

It’s interesting, but these guns that the UAV intercept can handle such a thing? Or only EW can you intercept them and send back to the operator))

[Topotun]

Another shotgun, 12 gauge .... The effectiveness of the use of one weapon or another strongly depends on the organization of counteraction (the presence of military guard, air defense posts, a surveillance system for air prostratsv, the availability of electronic warfare equipment, etc.). Therefore, the effectiveness of this type of weapon can only be judged by the results of combat use. Let's see what the fighters of the LPR / DPR will say.

[kasatky]

Why do they need all this?
Miniature field moonshine. This is the thing!
And for the LDNR fighters there would be a good trophy.

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: vkl.47

It’s interesting, but these guns that the UAV intercept can handle such a thing?

maybe ba, only you have to find it first

[St Petrov]

It’s time to open a Wentorg. For a long time there was no whining about new deliveries. It can still pass a couple of points or one Iskander so that they know exactly on Khreshchatyk that because of their hovering UAV, the otvetka can fly in and put down a 5-story shed with the ruling top of the junta

and eliminating a piece of the junta - people will not die, which is the most interesting. the main thing is that the cleaners in the building were not

[Maz]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

To combat mortar and machine gun positions, a very serious machine.

They said that f35 is a serious car, and it is being finalized, it breaks, it falls. They said the tomahawk was a serious wretch, and barely forty percent of the American salvo hit the target. Jews also said that Moshiakh broadcast in the language of God ... in Hebrew. And then it turned out to be nonsense. The anointed prayed, thought and communicated exclusively in Aramaic. And in Hebrew, the Jewish priests signed the verdict. They also say in the Ha'aretz newspaper that Israel wants to directly engage in the war in Syria. , but we know that this is just PR. So with these blabos babotyat .... and Aron's comment is only additional confirmation of this fact, until so far there have been no cases of mass successful application. And in the Donbass these things do not belong

[Warnoob]

Interesting replenishment. But, it feels to me that LDNR is being excavated from the old coal mines of Tungusok and Torov.

[210ox]

This is not so much “interesting” as dangerous replenishment .. By the way, I haven’t heard about such issues. In general, the issue of peace in the Donbass has long overripe and it must be radically decided .. And so that no such ammunition could reach Donetsk and Lugansk

Quote: WarNoob

Interesting replenishment. But, it feels to me that LDNR is being excavated from the old coal mines of Tungusok and Torov.

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: WarNoob

Tungusok and Thors.

too ruinous, and not so easy to fight with such goals

[Vita vko]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

To combat mortar and machine gun positions, a very serious machine.

therefore, we are waiting for the first trophies in LDNR and increasing the effectiveness of counteraction systems. Ideally, it is desirable to seize control and send back to Bandera positions. Maybe Israeli friends will help with something, the Poles probably could not do without their technologies. .

[Smoked]

I do not think that such a device will have a "return to the point of departure." No reason.

[Vita vko]

Quote: Smoked

"return to departure point".

there’s still a correction for the video channel, but it’s very difficult to protect such a channel, too much information flow. Therefore, the picture is easily corrected by a more powerful transmitter.

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Quote: Vita VKO

Quote: Smoked

"return to departure point".

there’s still a correction for the video channel, but it’s very difficult to protect such a channel, too much information flow. Therefore, the picture is easily corrected by a more powerful transmitter.

Not so easy, especially for such a locust

[feokot1982]

strange, they have their own ingenious developments

[bagr69]

Half will be sold to Donetsk, to all equally!

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: bagr69

Half will be sold to Donetsk, to all equally!

the problem is that they will be delivered on their own, and perhaps even more than half.

[Grach-25sm]

It’s sure to break into the city building at night — they can do it. Above military facilities are the same "Zushka" and so on ...

[Bronevick]

Sanctions on Poland

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Quote: Bronevick

Sanctions on Poland

So grocery back in 2014

[Mountain shooter]

But this is bending! This can not be allowed to use, or LDNR to put similar systems plus electronic warfare systems. That this rubbish did not fly there anywhere. Good ammunition aimed at the source of radio emission. To the operator too ...

[Kerensky]

And it seems to me - the bomb with wings is rather weak. Well, what is a warhead 300-700 grams? And the price of this device?
Yes, the control panels to it ... No, it will not pull the APU for money a sufficiently large batch of these grenades ...

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: Kerensky

Well, what is a warhead 300-700 grams?

300 - quite a 3,75 grenades F1
700 cumulative penetration of 150-200 mm of armor, against tank hatches / BMP / BTR / MTLB more and not necessary.

Quote: Kerensky

And the price of this device?

According to the firm, 10-12 thousand $
but I think that the prime cost there is 3 at the maximum, so that 300% of the profit came from above, and that's 12 thousand.
The price of Ukrainian ptur is from $ 20 thousand.

So no matter how amusing this thing looks, this is a very serious problem for a high-tech army, and not just for irregular troops.
You google or
https://el-murid.livejournal.com/3116190.html
take a look at how the Ishilians from ordinary civilian drones bomb with grenades from 40 mm grenade launchers without any guidance systems at all, and what is the result. sorry there already deleted the video.

[Kerensky]

take a look at how the Ishilians from ordinary civilian drones bomb with grenades from 40 mm grenade launchers without any guidance systems at all, and what is the result. sorry there already deleted the video.

Thank. I have seen that.
It’s not from a good life that the poor Igolkins probably use this? Maybe they can count on an abacus. Drone 6-9 thousand rubles + grenade ... Well, not at all:

According to the firm, 10-12 thousand $

My opinion is that it turns out a little expensive.
Well, the conclusion, hmm, an amateur: If a worthy target for this ... is not found, then it should have the option of returning to the launch point. And automatic, in case of loss of contact with the operator. Well, the "Russian hackers" to help.
What else to say? Opposite civilian stationary facilities would do.

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: Kerensky

Drone 6-9 thousand rubles + grenade ... Well, not at all:

right, but the military is more expensive for them.

Quote: Kerensky

My opinion is that it turns out a little expensive.

modern war is generally very expensive, even local.
And it’s cheaper than PTURA, which is economically justified.

Quote: Kerensky

Well, the conclusion, hmm, an amateur: If a worthy target for this ... is not found, then it should have the option of returning to the launch point. And automatic, in case of loss of contact with the operator. Well, the "Russian hackers" to help.

There they have 3 options for interchangeable warheads 2-combat (PF / Cumulative) and 1 only for reconnaissance.
The application concept flies a scout, if something discovers there launch a combat option. Jammed video communication goes by coordinates.

Quote: Kerensky

Opposite civilian stationary facilities would do.

Rather, just stationary objects.

[Grach-25sm]

Machine-gun and mortar calculation - "cover" with a guarantee. But for us - the death of everyone is a tragedy. I speak like a medical volunteer.

[Kerensky]

To cover, one must discover.

[Bob 57]

Give us Poland ammunition quickly and a lot, otherwise we are beggars Porosenko!

[Grach-25sm]

Well, that means that in November the “banderlogs” will again go on the attack on the DPR and LPR. Barrage ammunition, modernized tanks T-72, MLRS "Daisy". It is clear that we are throwing horns at Bandera, but again victims, and among the civilian population, too. How is it for three years sickened!