Breakthrough in relations of Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan

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Today for the first time in stories independent Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan signed an agreement on the state border. We are talking about an interim agreement, signed by representatives of the two countries in the presence of the presidents. The signing took place during the state visit of the President of Uzbekistan Shavkat Mirziyoyev to the Republic of Kyrgyzstan.

Breakthrough in relations of Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan


In addition to the interim agreement on the Kyrgyz-Uzbek border, a whole package of documents was signed on the substantial deepening of bilateral cooperation. This is a memorandum on inter-parliamentary cooperation, an agreement between the governments of the two countries on cooperation in the tax sphere, education, science and technology.

For the first time, the consular convention between Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan, which the parliaments of both countries have not ratified for a long time, begins to operate.

It should be noted that the heads of Uzbekistan did not visit Kyrgyzstan on a state visit since 2000. It was then that the last visit in the status of the state was made by Islam Karimov.

The visit of Shavkat Mirziyoyev, as the press service says, is the beginning of a new milestone in bilateral relations of neighboring republics.

Портал 24.kg cites the statement of the head of Kyrgyzstan Almazbek Atambayev on the border treaty:
Two people have been waiting for this day for more than 25 years. And this is the merit of Shavkat Miromonovich. There must be fraternal relations between our countries. We were once a single state - the Kokand khanate. Before 1991, we had no borders at all, and when they appeared, it became a problem and a tragedy for many residents. For 25 years, not a single kilometer of the border was described, but now less than a year - 85 percent. We have subtle, extraordinary questions. We have removed many of them. We concluded that we must solve problems for the sake of the future and security. I went to this scrupulously and restrained. Here, emotions should not play, only the mind. Today, reason prevails.
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  1. +3
    5 September 2017 17: 24
    The question is, why is it suddenly or was there an external impetus, so to speak ???
    1. +1
      5 September 2017 17: 30
      I even guess who this impetus from the Legon could give.
      1. +2
        5 September 2017 17: 31
        Quote: AVA77
        I even guess who gave this impetus.

        And who?
        1. 0
          5 September 2017 17: 36
          Apparently someone from the good neighbors laughing not good and can be put in a corner for pampering.
          1. +2
            5 September 2017 17: 41
            Quote: AVA77
            Apparently someone from the good neighbors

            The most striking is the activity of the Uzbeks, in terms of bilateral cooperation.
            Having estimated the number of hours of communication with our side, although we know who and how. laughing
            Now something like Nexia and Matiz will appear on your market, though they will be assembled in Kazakhstan, and other cars.
            1. +9
              5 September 2017 18: 43
              The most striking is the activity of the Uzbeks, in terms of bilateral cooperation

              You still do not know how active our president is in the country. A lot of trips to all areas, to the most remote corners of the republic.
              How many times breaking the route of the trip did he call in and drop off at ordinary people's homes, schools and residential districts ..
              The Development Strategy for the next 5 years was adopted, where everything is planned. And without much fanfare and window dressing, work is being done.
              I remember when the railway tunnel under the Kamchik Pass was put into operation, a unique construction by the way - 19 km under the mountain, the third longest in the world, there is no analogue in the CIS, this didn’t even appear in the news of neighboring countries ..)
              In general - all questions are in working order ..)
              1. +1
                5 September 2017 19: 08
                Quote: Razvedka_Boem
                You still do not know how active our president is in the country. A lot of trips to all areas, to the most remote corners of the republic.
                How many times breaking the route of the trip did he call in and drop off at ordinary people's homes, schools and residential districts ..
                The Development Strategy for the next 5 years was adopted, where everything is planned. And without much fanfare and window dressing, work is being done.
                I remember when the railway tunnel under the Kamchik Pass was put into operation, a unique construction by the way - 19 km under the mountain, the third longest in the world, there is no analogue in the CIS, this didn’t even appear in the news of neighboring countries ..)
                In general - all questions are in working order ..)

                I wish him all the best, here’s a change of route and showing on TV, not far from the top officials of the CIS. Our goal has been scored for three years now, realizing the ostentatiousness of these phenomena. The people understood him. laughing
                Quote: Razvedka_Boem
                I remember when the railway tunnel under the Kamchik Pass was put into operation, a unique construction by the way - 19 km under the mountain, the third longest in the world, there is no analogue in the CIS, this didn’t even appear in the news of neighboring countries ..)

                By the way, we heard this, and even in the press there was a column about Central Asia.
                Of course, their exploits and for the servants in the first place.
                By the way, the train from Tashkent to Almaty, how? Did yours immediately rush to the flea market, by the way, have your import duties been canceled?
                1. +4
                  5 September 2017 19: 17
                  I wish him all the best, here’s a change of route and showing on TV, not far from the top officials of the CIS. Our goal has been three years ago, realizing the ostentatiousness of these phenomena. The people understood him

                  When ours only became president, few people knew his face. Do not consider it embellishment, but he drove away in a small car and went to markets, bazaars, asked about prices, etc. Actually, there were such cases.
                  In Tashkent, he once went to the clinic, said that his heart snapped and waited, he looked like yes .. After 20 minutes no one came up to him ..
                  In general, the first reforms that our president began related to health care.
                  By the way, the train from Tashkent to Almaty, how? Did yours immediately rush to the flea market, by the way, have your import duties been canceled?

                  I haven’t visited you yet and I don’t know how to get there with the train. As for the flea marketers .. Well .. Someone immediately runs to the market, someone is interested in seeing the city ..)
                  Work on duties.
                  1. +1
                    5 September 2017 19: 27
                    Quote: Razvedka_Boem
                    When ours only became president, few people knew his face. Do not consider it embellishment, but he drove away in a small car and went to markets, bazaars, asked about prices, etc. Actually, there were such cases.
                    In Tashkent, he once went to the clinic, said that his heart snapped and waited, he looked like yes .. After 20 minutes no one came up to him ..
                    In general, the first reforms that our president began related to health care.

                    Yes, show off, for internal use. I just can’t even imagine, but there are family doctors and this is considered personal.
                    Quote: Razvedka_Boem
                    I haven’t visited you yet and I don’t know how to get there with the train. As for the flea marketers .. Well .. Someone immediately runs to the market, someone is interested in seeing the city ..)
                    Work on duties.

                    You may not consider them junk farmers, this is probably a new class for you, entrepreneurs who can boost the economy of Uzbekistan. We started the same way from this. The middle class will come from where.
                    1. +2
                      5 September 2017 19: 39
                      The middle class from where to appear.

                      We have a middle class for quite some time.
                      You may not consider them junk farmers, this is probably a new class for you, entrepreneurs who can boost the economy of Uzbekistan

                      Our economy will be raised by production, not shuttles. Who wants to let them go, they will occupy some niche of the market. But on a statewide scale, priority is given to the production of various goods.
                      For example, our textiles are exported, of very high quality and at the same time have a price lower than foreign competitors.
                      Household appliances and electronics - telephones, televisions, refrigerators and washing machines and much more, also of very good quality.
                      1. 0
                        5 September 2017 19: 53
                        Quote: Razvedka_Boem
                        We have a middle class for quite some time.

                        And who are we, whoever cattle grows in decent numbers, or who see little business, cabinet, upholstered furniture, taxi fleets, buses, etc. Someone who doesn’t want to get into politics or capture the business of celestials. But sometimes they behave like. Those who got the business or broke away from those.
                        Quote: Razvedka_Boem
                        Our economy will be raised by production, not shuttles. Who wants to let them go, they will occupy some niche of the market. But on a statewide scale, priority is given to the production of various goods.

                        Yes, this is understandable, but there is one thing, if there is little KC that person will not even raise a vote on the existing power, and if only then the KC authorities will try to take away or divide.
                        Quote: Razvedka_Boem
                        For example, our textiles are exported, of very high quality and at the same time have a price lower than foreign competitors.

                        Horseradish textiles, my wife knows three boutiques, you started to drive the centhetics into cotton.
                        Quote: Razvedka_Boem
                        Household appliances and electronics - telephones, televisions, refrigerators and washing machines and much more, also of very good quality.

                        The brains are not septheshins, we have China near by, we have long known what’s what and what you’re releasing, you can breed your own.
              2. +2
                5 September 2017 20: 32
                Sorry for being a little off topic. When visiting the Pavilion of Uzbekistan at Astana Expo 2017, I was pleasantly surprised. This is one of the best and pavilion-related exhibitions.
          2. +1
            5 September 2017 18: 35
            I even guess who this push from the legone could give

            You can guess a lot .. But with your level of awareness, you will only get .. somewhere .. not there.
            1. +1
              5 September 2017 18: 42
              Quote: Razvedka_Boem
              You can guess a lot .. But with your level of awareness, you will only get .. somewhere .. not there.

              By the way, you are not surprised, perhaps you don’t know about the number of visits to Shymkent and your state’s negotiations. persons. Last month they came almost three times.
              By the way, your machine sets of cars in Kostanay have begun to be assembled, the same Ravon is in demand. By past other models of GM.
              How do you react to the market exchange rate?
              1. +2
                5 September 2017 18: 57
                How do you react to the market exchange rate?

                Calm ..)
                Firstly, the prices of mobile operators, air carrier, and GM are fixed at the level before the introduction of the free exchange rate, which is 8100 soums today.
                The previous state course was rounded up to 4200 sums and it was on it that prices were fixed for mobile operators, airlines, automobiles and insurers in order to avoid unnecessary burdens for people.
                Also - the fears about rising prices for essential goods are greatly exaggerated, because and before that, prices for imported goods were calculated at the price of the black market.
                When the first hype passes, the course will decline and I think quite seriously.
                1. +1
                  5 September 2017 19: 14
                  Quote: Razvedka_Boem
                  When the first hype passes, the course will decline and I think quite seriously.

                  It will not work, experience is already available, only if oil for $ 100 does not pass, then we fell from 140 to 120 tons for a buck, then life spun, for breakfast I could afford a can of black caviar laughing but now it’s not up to red. laughing
                  1. +1
                    5 September 2017 19: 20
                    Will not work

                    Wait and see..)
        2. +4
          5 September 2017 17: 39
          Quote: marshes
          And who?
          “But all that was needed was for two NORMAL men to meet.” And before that - how many tears and grief, how many people died ...
          1. 0
            5 September 2017 17: 44
            Quote: oldseaman1957
            “But all that was needed was for two NORMAL men to meet.” And before that - how many tears and grief, how many people died ...

            Well, the two men met and that, at least under the contradictions of about 100 years.
    2. +2
      5 September 2017 18: 37
      The question is, why is it suddenly or was there an external impetus, so to speak ???

      The need for change was and the change was led by a man who had been a prime minister for a long time and who knew the accumulated problems realistically, not by paper.
      1. +1
        5 September 2017 18: 53
        Quote: Razvedka_Boem
        The need for change was and the change was led by a man who had been a prime minister for a long time and who knew the accumulated problems realistically, not by paper.

        It’s a long way to go, but in a short time. A part of the population wouldn’t rebel because of a quick change of reality. This is the worst thing, although it can be extended for years, but it is also explosive.
        Canned food sometimes explodes if poorly handled. The external factor also affects it. But not because of the Ocean, it's just awkward actions. An elephant, a bear, in a china shop.
        1. +3
          5 September 2017 19: 07
          You have to go a very long way, but in a short time

          Come on, bad Khokhlas.
          A part of the population wouldn’t rebel because of the quick change of reality

          The changes are quite sharp, the prosecutor's office and the Ministry of Internal Affairs are shaking seriously, in terms of cleaning the ranks.
          Now work is underway on the Civil Servant Code, as everyone will decide the personnel.
          We have an unparalleled case when the deputy minister became a young guy of 22 years old. Experimentally, for several months. Young people really want to benefit the homeland and with this step they show that everything is possible.
          And the most frequent mention in prayers is Tinchlik Bulsin, May there be Peace.
          And we wish this with all our heart and soul. So everything will be fine.
          1. +1
            5 September 2017 19: 17
            Quote: Razvedka_Boem
            We have an unparalleled case when the deputy minister became a young guy of 22 years old.

            Not you first. laughing
            Quote: Razvedka_Boem
            And the most frequent mention in prayers is Tinchlik Bulsin, May there be Peace.

            That’s crap, mentally, at the subtle level, they don’t expect pleasantness. Our prayers are for diseases, which is real in the world.
            1. +2
              5 September 2017 19: 23
              from it is dull, mentally at the subtle level no pleasantness is expected

              This is not an expectation of bad, but rather, we appreciate what we have. For all the time since the 90s, there was peace. Like you. This is expensive, given what was happening in the Caucasus or Transnistria, and if we recall these "color revolutions" ..
              Therefore, this is not an expectation of the bad, but simply a request to the Almighty to get rid of shocks. I think a completely natural desire.
              1. +1
                5 September 2017 19: 41
                Quote: Razvedka_Boem
                Therefore, this is not an expectation of the bad, but simply a request to the Almighty to get rid of shocks. I think a completely natural desire.

                It’s just that our people don’t think that the upheavals will be on national or religious grounds, because there are none.
                If you pray for a long time and ideas can be realized, just thought processes, all of this can come true.
                Difficult times may come, do not heal up a bunch of rams for the sacrifice of offerings.
                1. +3
                  5 September 2017 19: 50
                  Hard times may come

                  We will try to make everything go smoothly.
                  a bunch of rams for the sacrifice of offerings do not

                  Hmm ..) I don’t even know what to answer you ..) Cutting a sheep or not, this is a personal affair of everyone and has nothing to do with politics and ongoing reforms.
                  And the phrase "Tinchlik Bulsin" - Let there be peace, does not carry a special religious connotation, this desire is also said in everyday conversation.
                  1. +1
                    5 September 2017 20: 06
                    Quote: Razvedka_Boem
                    Hmm ..) I don’t even know what to answer you ..) Cutting a sheep or not, this is a personal affair of everyone and has nothing to do with politics and ongoing reforms.

                    Ours when a sheep was cut, the Scottish Celtic won. laughing Not long ago I heard that AMKAR went into the series after the sacrifice. laughing
                    Quote: Razvedka_Boem
                    And the phrase "Tinchlik Bulsin" - Let there be peace, does not carry a special religious connotation, this desire is also said in everyday conversation.

                    Here, this one, or rather, that a large part of the population will be afraid. Here it is fucking bad. And your people are not stupid., You’ve already beaten all the scripts in your head.
                    I respect your people.
                    1. +2
                      5 September 2017 20: 08
                      And all the best to you)
              2. 0
                7 September 2017 13: 35
                Well, about peace in Uzbekistan, I would not say so. First there was the IMU, then the riots in Andijan. Again, in the same Kyrgyzstan in 2010, Uzbeks were smashed. I knew a couple of people from Kyrgyzstan who participated in those riots. To put it mildly, they don’t like Uzbeks. So the conflict has not gone away. request
                Again, the population of Uzbekistan is growing, but there is no habitable territory. Uzbek enclaves surrounded by Kyrgyz territory are also a potential source of conflict. Do not agree with the Kyrgyz on the exchange of territories - sooner or later it can fire. Plus, the Islamists are completely openly trying to rock the situation - the growth of detentions of militants from Central Asia in the Russian Federation speaks of this. It’s quite possible that you still have a lot to come. And you should not relax.
                But your new president seems to have turned in our direction, which means that some problems will help him to solve. At least immediately after the change of power, the problem of the new Tajik hydroelectric power station was suddenly solved. There is clearly not without GDP. Now - the border treaty with Kyrgyzstan. Friendship with the Russian Federation pays off. wink Maybe we’ll see Uzbekistan in the Collective Security Treaty Organization or even EURAEC. hi
                1. 0
                  7 September 2017 17: 47
                  First there was the IMU, then the riots in Andijan.

                  And with both successfully managed. Moreover, the events in Andijan were inspired from the outside. The situation was complicated and the reaction had to be unambiguous. Which I wish you too.
                  Again, the population of Uzbekistan is growing, but there is no habitable territory.

                  It's not about the territories, but about how to use them. For example, Japan - the population is large, but everything seems to be fine with them ..)
                  Uzbek enclaves surrounded by Kyrgyz territory are also a potential source of conflict.

                  Agreed. Everything is fine. Read the news.
                  the growth of detentions of militants from Central Asia in the Russian Federation speaks about this

                  Are you talking about people of Caucasian nationality?
                  All detentions occur on a tip from our intelligence services. This is not advertised, but it is. Since the FSB has no agents in Central Asia.
                  But your new president seems to have turned in our direction, which means that some problems will help him to solve.

                  Our president paid his first visit to Turkmenistan, not to Russia. We respect Russia, but proceed from pragmatism. Even in the 90s, I.A. Karimov to the last postponed the entry of his currency, because he did not believe that Russia had turned away ..
                  Do you remember who signed the documents in Belovezhskaya Pushcha? ..
                  At least immediately after the change of power, the problem of the new Tajik hydroelectric power station was suddenly solved. There is clearly not without GDP. Now - the border treaty with Kyrgyzstan. Friendship with the Russian Federation pays off. wink Maybe we will also see Uzbekistan at the Collective Security Treaty Organization or even EURAS. hi

                  Russia has long been no longer the navel of the Earth .. Do not exaggerate Russia's influence in Central Asia, it has lost it significantly and only through its fault.
                  Contracts with Russia are concluded - 17 billion dollars their total amount.
                  We are partners.
                  We keep the border in Afghanistan and you can sleep peacefully.
          2. 0
            5 September 2017 19: 20
            Quote: Razvedka_Boem
            We have an unparalleled case when the deputy minister became a young guy of 22 years old.

            This is good only for himself while the experiment is underway. Well, there is no experience in 22 years. And yet, this suggests that there is no training system.
            1. +2
              5 September 2017 19: 26
              This is good only for himself.

              I assure you that the demand there is the most serious .. Not for the beautiful eyes of this guy set. There is a head on his shoulders, let him work, try.
              And yet, this suggests that there is no training system.

              There is a training system, but perhaps it is worth changing. They are working on it.
  2. 0
    5 September 2017 17: 27
    Well, "let’s heal ..."
  3. +4
    5 September 2017 17: 29
    “A thin world is better than a good quarrel”
  4. 0
    5 September 2017 17: 33
    OK, now they will shoot at the border with a warning.
  5. +2
    5 September 2017 17: 36
    good luck to Mirziyoyev, it seems he intends to quickly get out of the problems that his predecessor has accumulated.
    1. 0
      5 September 2017 17: 47
      Quote: protoss
      good luck to Mirziyoyev, it seems he intends to quickly get out of the problems that his predecessor has accumulated.

      But here it is more serious, now with the economic changes, the main thing is that the political would not happen. And the people there are more than 30 lyam.
  6. 0
    5 September 2017 17: 42
    As far as I understand, the whole range of problems between the countries is about water. Some want to grow vegetables, the second to generate electricity at the hydroelectric station. All problems were due to water.
    Have you really solved all the issues?
    1. 0
      5 September 2017 18: 08
      Quote: APASUS
      Have you really solved all the issues?

      Well, at least Uzbekistan will buy electricity from Kyrgyzstan at 2 cents per sq.ch.
      Therefore, Kyrgyzstan will begin to discharge water to generate electricity from the Toktogul hydroelectric station.
      Perhaps the Kyrgyz will receive gas at reduced prices, stop there at the Gazprom Market. laughing Where part of the shares belong to KazMunai Gaza, or rather Timke Kulibayev and the stake is quite serious, you can sit on the board of directors and have the opportunity to block.
  7. +4
    5 September 2017 17: 45
    Such news is always encouraging, enough to quarrel already ..
  8. +1
    5 September 2017 18: 50
    The goal of our foreign policy is to establish relations with our neighbors. They are not chosen, they are and will be. Serious steps have been taken for this.
  9. 0
    5 September 2017 19: 28
    It is high time! And with water you can calmly solve everything, without war, without casualties ...
  10. +1
    5 September 2017 20: 05
    marshes,
    And who are we, whoever cattle grows in decent numbers, or who see little business, cabinet, upholstered furniture, taxi fleets, buses, etc.

    You will be surprised, but with us too ..)
    Horseradish textiles, my wife knows three boutiques, you started to drive the centhetics into cotton.

    For the last couple of years I have been using only domestic textiles, in particular, the Made in Uzbekistan brand, there is an opportunity to take imported things, but why pay more, do we have such quality?
    The brains are not septheshins, we have China near by, we have long known what’s what and what you’re releasing, you can breed your own.

    Again, the range of sold equipment for various purposes is quite wide, and there are plenty to choose from.
    If you are not too lazy to follow the link - here are the various household appliances manufactured by us - http://mediapark.uz
    And the smartphones from Artel, I assure you, are of high quality, both in terms of materials, and in terms of build quality and performance. As well as the rest of their goods.
    1. 0
      5 September 2017 20: 21
      Quote: Razvedka_Boem
      For the last couple of years I have been using only domestic textiles, in particular, the Made in Uzbekistan brand, there is an opportunity to take imported things, but why pay more, do we have such quality?

      Sorry, I know these traps, my wife has a business. I got all the plastic, but the Kyrgyz look better. Have a look at my wife’s Raf-4 car for 14 years, a couple of boutiques in good centers and another one-room apartment for 40 thousand dead raccoons, which is 200 in month brings. This is about liberated Asian women laughing , sisters in the USA and in Germany. What bothers me is in the form of trips.
      1. +2
        6 September 2017 00: 39
        The women rule the world, and only then do the men understand how they got into it. belay . The whole brain will be eaten, but it will be necessary to do it by the extreme and then gnaw it. If any idea comes to mind, they will cut it until it is sawn. laughing hi
  11. 0
    5 September 2017 20: 06
    The main thing is to keep the Americans and the British at arm's length, and their "democratic" State Department-destructive "funds."
  12. 0
    5 September 2017 22: 36
    Not otherwise, they will soon be cutting each other again. Folk fun such.
  13. 0
    5 September 2017 22: 59
    Wow, here, the stripes of stars were defeated in their own interests, which consisted in the fact that everyone in the world would talk to each other through the sight, and this sight should be purchased from the United States. Tomorrow, the State Department will express "concern."
  14. 0
    6 September 2017 13: 16
    They are all active and even very laughing
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