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New US Sanctions: It's Flowers

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Recently, the Russian press has been overwhelmed with messages, comments, articles, speeches about new US sanctions against Russia. Still would! A blow this time is applied to the fundamentals of the economic power of the current ruling grouping: the financial and oil and gas sectors. The United States cannot prevent us from extracting oil and gas (although dependence on Western technology is great in oil production). But Americans can quite prevent them from selling them to Europe. What they are doing now.

By hindering the construction of new gas pipelines, the United States is “encroaching on the sacred,” the right of oligarchs with passports of the Russian Federation to plunder Russia's natural wealth. The neo-colonial model of the Russian economy, based on the unrestrained export of natural resources, is crumbling before our eyes. The US intention, however, is not to eliminate this shameful model for Russia, but to prevent the “Russian” oligarchs from receiving super-profits and force them to submit to the whip of the American supervisor.

If we add to this the new difficulties in obtaining cheap Western loans (and the economy of the Russian Federation depends on them very seriously, because the key rate of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is 9%), then a picture of a very serious “hitting” of the Russian top is created. Judging by the heart-rending cries of politicians and the pro-government press of the Russian Federation, it seems that the end of the world has already come.

However, this is clearly only the beginning of a broad offensive by a world oligarchy nesting in the USA, against Russia. The goal is almost not hidden: this, as has already happened in a number of other countries, is a change of power. And with a moderately pro-Western power (ie, showing signs of independence), to frankly pro-Western. This is the United States and its allies more than once done in Ukraine. Why not repeat such a dirty trick also in Russia ?!

The frontal offensive on the oil and gas and financial sectors is complemented by several flank attacks: foreign policy, domestic political and economic.

First of all, we note the recent voyage of US Vice President Pence for the former Soviet republics and the Balkans. He visited the Baltic states, Georgia, as well as Montenegro - a country that has long been friendly to Russia. Uncle Sam makes it clear to us that the Baltic states, the Transcaucasus and the Balkans - for centuries the zone of vital interests of Russia - are now finally becoming vassals of the United States, and Russia supposedly has nothing to do. Since this unfiled, but understandable message was enthusiastically supported by the local princes, there is no doubt that the process of an increasingly dense encirclement of Russia by unfriendly states will intensify. It is not necessary to say that Ukraine has already been turned into a semi-colony of America, and in Odessa a base of American fleet.

But even this is only the beginning of a general US offensive against Russia. The scandal with the supply of turbines of the firm "Siemens" to power plants in the Crimea, revealed the huge dependence of the Russian Federation, for example, on foreign engine-building. And although Moscow claims that the turbines were created in Russia under a German license, in reality 65% of the shares of the company that built the turbines belong to the same Siemens.

Take the aviation industry. The vaunted "domestic" Sukhoi SuperJ | et100 fly on the French-developed SaM146 engine. They collect SaM146 in Rybinsk, but in fact it is the same “Russian” aircraft engine as the “Russian” turbines for the Crimean power plants. Given the high share of American equipment on the "Superjet" for the sale of this "domestic" aircraft need permission ... US Treasury. For even more vaunted MC-21 (just started test flights) about a thousand PW-1400G engines of the American company Pratt and Whitney were purchased. Domestic PD-14 is still being tested.

The same trouble with ship engines. Small rocket ship "Buyan-M", which became famous for strikes of cruise missiles "Caliber" from the Caspian Sea at ISIS targets in Syria, as it turns out, is equipped with MTU Friedrichshafen M507A engines. The Germans stopped deliveries in connection with the events in Ukraine, and our Navy was able to receive only six "Buyans" of the twelve planned. Another four "Buyana" are unfinished. The same picture with the frigates of the 11356 "Petrel" project. Three was built. And three more were preserved, because the deliveries to Russia of the gas-turbine installations DS-71 and D090 from Nikolaev were stopped.

The same is true in other areas. For example, 494 from 580 of long-haul aircraft of the RF airlines - “Boeing” and “Airbus”. And it is enough for these corporations to stop the supply of some kind of spare parts, as in Russia the most severe (considering the huge spaces) traffic collapse occurs. And only now, when the West has sharply increased pressure, have our leaders started talking about switching to domestic aircraft. Truly "the thunder does not burst, the peasant will not cross."

But it's too late to be baptized. Our economy is already largely captured by Western firms. According to the authors of the review “Who owns the Russian economy”: “The state’s assets are still greatest in electricity generation, the mining industry (oil and gas, uranium and diamonds), oil refining, transport engineering, and the nuclear industry. In other industries, the state no longer plays a noticeable role. More than half of the companies have foreign or offshore companies on the list of shareholders or founders. ”

According to experts, enterprises in foreign or offshore jurisdictions extract 55% of our minerals. Among the oil and gas companies of the Russian Federation there is not one in which there would be no offshore companies or foreigners.

According to the well-known economist V.Yu. Katasonov, in the wholesale and retail trade the share of firms with foreign participation amounted to 81,4% of the total share capital. Foreign capital controls 2 / 3 food industry. According to V.Yu. Katasonov, even very modest successes in import substitution are provided, first of all, by enterprises with the participation of foreign capital. They are so "import substitution" at hand: they actively seize our domestic market.

So, if the world oligarchy headed by the United States took Russia seriously (and this is clearly the case), then the possibilities of economic blackmail in the West are almost unlimited. Russia has long been forcibly "embedded in the global economy" and, ultimately, made it powerless as an appendage of the West.

Can the current government ensure the independence of the country when almost nothing belongs to it? Can it govern a country when at least half of the economy is owned by foreign and offshore capital? For a long time they cut down the tree of the powerful economy of the USSR and, finally, “for what they fought, they ran into it ...”.

The dependence of the national economy of Russia on the West is so great that only a powerful concentration of the efforts of the whole country, similar to the Stalinist industrialization (which ensured victory over fascist Germany), is able to save Russia from the US economic aggression. The current ruling group is obviously not capable of that.

However, the glaring contradiction between the policy that hampers the development of the productive forces and the need of Russia for a decent standard of living of the people and a worthy place in the world inexorably leads to the sharpest conflict. All история of humanity shows that the government, restraining the development of the country, inevitably fails ...
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  1. Hoc vince
    Hoc vince 26 August 2017 05: 39
    +13
    Umbrella manufacturers need to pray for rainy summers.
    Sandal makers need to pray for dry summers.
    Beer producers need to pray for the hot summer.
    And the producers of vodka have no time to pray, they need to WORK!
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 26 August 2017 08: 55
      +7
      Great article! Respect to the author! +100500
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 26 August 2017 09: 20
        +2
        Quote: Stroporez
        Great article! Respect to the author! +100500

        The author is a communist.
        1. olimpiada15
          olimpiada15 26 August 2017 12: 03
          +9
          "Author Communist" - why did you get this? Have you seen a membership card?
          Personally, I am not for the Reds, not for the Whites, nor against anyone, I am for life, intelligent life. And to ensure the right to life, a state must exist. For different territories require a different approach to ensuring vital interests, and therefore only the state is able to ensure the right to life and is obliged to fulfill it.
          In different countries, ensuring life rights requires different measures. For example, for the inhabitants of the tundra, fur as an element of clothing is a vital necessity, and for another climate it is either a luxury or an unnecessary thing. Therefore, the state must be strengthened, and the country's self-sufficiency must be fully utilized. Before the collapse of the USSR, the state had the technology at the proper level to withstand the camp. Now it is a complete dependence from the outside, which weakens the state, making it dependent. What does this addiction lead to? Let's look at the history of the country: there was not a single century when western Europe did not go to war, in almost every generation men went to war. Why? We didn’t take away any territory from our country — there was enough of us, a country with a harsh climate, but it has everything necessary for life, which cannot be said about the west, and the territory has long been developed, and a high standard of living has been ensured for centuries by the colonies. From this conclusion, we will be attacked in the future, because the west is not self-sufficient. The USA looks even more pitiable, which, being the descendants of robbers and pirates, have always treated other nations not humanly: they exterminated the local population of the Indians, brought in slaves who were treated worse than cattle. Over time, the United States would seem to have found civilized norms, but take a look today: even inside the country, the police kill with impunity a man who raised his hands is not respecting the right to life. Foreign policy looks even more pitiable: the bombing of Yugoslavia, the destruction of Iraq on the basis of test tubes, the brutal massacre of leaders and so on. and so. All this is well known. Let's move on to our country. When the USSR existed, it could be assumed that the matter was in a different social system: the capitalists were forced to make concessions to wage workers in order not to lose the USSR, but the improvement of workers' rights did not negatively affect their economy, on the contrary, the western economy was developing successfully. The USSR did not, contradictions are eliminated. The Russian Federation generously supplies strategically important resources, so much so that from the pipelines intended for the uninterrupted supply of the economy of the West, the same west turns its nose. Why? Yes, because in their opinion, the country should disappear in order for the US to completely dispose of Russia's resources. This is logical, i.e. they plan to destroy the country that they failed to conquer by self-destruction. As they say, not by washing, so by skating. The integration slogan sounds attractive, but integration should be equitable and mutually beneficial. And what does the current integration model look like. Take the WTO, where the country voluntarily assumed obligations beneficial to the West and disastrous for the Russian economy. Russia is a huge country, with a harsh climate and long distances, but with sufficient hydrocarbon resources of its own. In order for the country to live, the economy was effective, it is necessary to take into account the increased energy consumption in production and agriculture compared with most countries of the world, because the domestic price of gasoline, etc. should be significantly lower than in the same USA. But the Russian Federation set the condition — the Russian Federation fulfills it as an obedient serf. As for the production of complex industrial products. The country is capable of producing any equipment itself, producing products of any complexity, for this we have everything: from resources to specialists. No, yielding to the West, we buy everything there, and these costs are followed by the costs of spare parts, tools and all this needs a currency. Look at the history of countries broadcasting about democracy and Russian history: we didn’t capture anyone, we didn’t import slaves, our ancestors settled, preserving the populations and customs of many nations, today look at the map of the country: how many republics on it, all nations were united into one the state as equal citizens. We can’t integrate with the West: we are for them such natives as Indians, African peoples, anyone, but never equal partners. Therefore, integration will continue to the detriment of the country and nothing else. The equipment was and will be incorporated defects that incapacitate, especially on those mechanisms that can be used in weapons.
          The main thing today is to turn on the brain and live your own mind, not propaganda cliches. Criticism should not be blamed on ideology. Objectively: in the USSR, the state provided all the vitally important needs of citizens, but in the Russian Federation this is not. They didn’t starve in the USSR, but now: any trip to the garbage container at inopportune times is a meeting with a person rummaging through waste. And these are realities, not propaganda. Your suspicion of communist ideology is inappropriate; you need not look for ideological differences, but fight for life together.
        2. San Sanych
          San Sanych 26 August 2017 13: 44
          +8
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          Quote: Stroporez
          Great article! Respect to the author! +100500

          The author is a communist.

          it doesn’t matter who the author, communist, or anarchist, maybe even a capitalist, but the fact that modern Russia is in fact a raw material semi-colony of more developed countries is a fact (
          1. Antianglosax
            Antianglosax 28 August 2017 12: 01
            +4
            And every second article in the VO once again clearly emphasizes the unpromising ugliness of the Russian authorities - their lack of ideality, incompetence, greed, venality, lack of professionalism, stupidity and the complete absence of concepts close to a Russian person about honor, pride and dignity! Since the beginning of the 90s, the ball has been ruled by traders, speculators and criminals who have surfaced in the wake of the sack of the USSR, complete bastards and crooks. This "elite" of the twenty-fifth grade with a merchant mentality is simply not able to correctly manage the Power in the interests of the entire population. They are so short-sighted that even the prospect of the near future - to be hanged on a pole, does not make them fuss. They don’t care! And the result, as usual, will be very sad for the country and, to the delight of the western degenerates.
  2. bald
    bald 26 August 2017 06: 00
    +11
    The article is a solid bogeyman, on all counts. Not immediately, but it is an economic upswing. Even for simple oil, gas is needed by anyone (without the northern stream) - you want to pick it up yourself, you want to drive it yourself (tankers will quickly build it). We are cheaper and they will not care about the states and then they will crawl. Baltic terminals will be built quickly.
    1. Evdokim
      Evdokim 26 August 2017 06: 05
      +6
      Quote: bald
      The article is a solid bogeyman, on all counts.

      I agree. Directly REN TV revered. It remains to wrap itself in a sheet and crawl into the cemetery. belay
      1. bald
        bald 26 August 2017 06: 15
        +7
        The article is a provocation.
        1. Smog
          Smog 26 August 2017 06: 56
          +8
          Hana us men. I already wrapped myself in a sheet, crawled, grabbed a spatula to dig in a little manko ..........
          1. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 29 August 2017 08: 46
            +6
            Kostya, dry tea and "liquid sausage" do not forget to take. And then until the bony wait.
            1. Smog
              Smog 29 August 2017 12: 45
              +4
              Quote: Okolotochny
              "liquid sausage" take

              We took yeast, sugar sand, we’ll find water, so we won’t be lost. and take a bite as Zheleznostop said below the hedgehogs. Damn, I forgot the salt. Crawled back laughing
          2. Zheleznostop
            Zheleznostop 29 August 2017 09: 45
            +1
            The same crap, even the last salted hedgehogs. How to live.
    2. Serg65
      Serg65 26 August 2017 07: 04
      +10
      Quote: bald
      Article - a solid poganina

      what Especially if you know that the author himself put his pens to the economic collapse of the USSR as an employee of the Soviet Committee of Solidarity of the Countries of Asia and Africa. He supported the liberation movements of South Africa (ANC South Africa and SWAPO Namibia) bully
      1. Titsen
        Titsen 26 August 2017 22: 55
        +1
        Quote: Serg65
        Especially if you know that the author himself put his pens to the economic collapse of the USSR as an employee of the Soviet Committee of Solidarity of the Countries of Asia and Africa. He supported the liberation movements of South Africa (ANC South Africa and SWAPO Namibia)


        Vyacheslav Nikolayevich Tetyokin (born 2 on October 1949, Chita) is a Russian political figure, deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation of the sixth convocation from the Communist Party.

        From November 30, 2008 to February 24, 2013 - Member of the Presidium, Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party.

        Doctor of Historical Sciences - March 21, 2012 at the Institute of Africa, RAS defended his doctoral dissertation on the topic "Massive democratic organizations of South Africa in the fight against the apartheid regime (1976-1991)."

        ANOTHER SPECIALIST!
      2. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 29 August 2017 08: 48
        +5
        Sergey, hi Why will no one ask the Communists and their leader for the results of the 1996 elections? After all, they were scared and silent. And squeeze the instructions much.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 29 August 2017 09: 06
          +2
          hi Greetings, my friend Alexey!
          Quote: Okolotochny
          Why will no one ask the Communists and their leader for the results of the 1996 election?

          If the Communists did not answer for the 1989, 1990 and 1991 years, then who will ask them for the 1996 year? How can communists ask themselves?
          1. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 29 August 2017 09: 33
            +5
            So I am about the same. There was a chance to change the country the way you want. But no, "merged."
        2. Zheleznostop
          Zheleznostop 29 August 2017 09: 47
          0
          Papa Sue Money from the langley with the conductor was handed over, here is a red giant and treacherously fluttered.
    3. Cube123
      Cube123 26 August 2017 08: 11
      +5
      Quote: bald
      The article is a solid bogeyman, on all counts.

      I agree! The author forgets that inside the country it does not matter who produces. It is important who controls this. Any production must comply with the laws in force in the territory of accommodation. Therefore, to protect the interests of Russia within the country is possible only by improving the legislation and ensuring strict observance of the laws.
      But the dependence on net imports must be fought. Starting with the education of the population and until the creation of an economic system focused on stimulating own production.
      1. bald
        bald 26 August 2017 08: 15
        0
        And so it is.
    4. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 26 August 2017 09: 26
      +10
      Quote: bald
      Even for simple oil, gas is needed by anyone (without the northern stream) - you want to pick it up yourself, you want to drive it yourself (tankers will quickly build it).

      And you, besides pumping oil, is capable of thinking anything?
      1. bald
        bald 26 August 2017 09: 34
        +1
        But what about. Even if Russia is surrounded by the Chinese wall (I exaggerate). It will be normal for us - nothing will leak to the side. We have everything. We will create our huge economy and we will not depend on anyone. Hands do not grow out of the butt.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 26 August 2017 09: 42
          +3
          Quote: bald
          But what about. Even if Russia is surrounded by the Chinese wall (I exaggerate). It will be normal for us - nothing will leak to the side.

          Well, thank God! There is sanity, otherwise one would think .....
          1. bald
            bald 26 August 2017 09: 50
            0
            It’s a shame for the Power! We will break through.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 26 August 2017 09: 56
              +8
              Quote: bald
              It’s a shame for the Power!

              Who we choose, then we have.
              Quote: bald
              We will break through.

              With this power, we will break straight into hell.
              1. bald
                bald 26 August 2017 10: 17
                +1
                I hate them myself, since the union. And in power are the same by inheritance (excl. Is).
        2. Alf
          Alf 26 August 2017 17: 28
          0
          Quote: bald
          Even if Russia is surrounded by the Chinese wall (I exaggerate).

          And Russia is now surrounded by such a wall.
          Quote: bald
          . We have everything.

          The way it is. Inside the Kremlin.
          Quote: bald
          We have everything. We will create our huge economy and we will not depend on anyone. Hands do not grow out of the butt.

          Why is it not created in any way? Hands are crooked? Or should I change my head?
  3. izya top
    izya top 26 August 2017 06: 07
    +5
    is it gone? Are the gypsum removed, is the client leaving?
  4. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 26 August 2017 06: 45
    +4
    It’s normal: to sit in the State Duma, receive a “healthy” salary and at the same time “bark” at the “current ruling group”. I do not believe the Communist Party, of which he is a member.

    And according to the article, there is only one conclusion: "the elections are coming soon!"
  5. victorsh
    victorsh 26 August 2017 06: 46
    +7
    Foreign capital controls the 2 / 3 food industry.
    And I agree. Let on the shelves there will be 5-6 varieties of sausages and sausages, and not like now. But made from MEAT, and not like now 50 varieties- 2 / 3 which my dog ​​does not eat.
    1. Smog
      Smog 26 August 2017 06: 58
      +4
      Quote: victorsh
      now 50 grades - 2/3 of which my dog ​​does not eat.

      And it is these 2/3 that your dog does not eat that control foreign capital. (joke) But the sausages really are shitty.
      1. victorsh
        victorsh 26 August 2017 06: 59
        0
        So I wrote about that.
      2. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 29 August 2017 08: 49
        +5
        Still thinking about dry shares? laughing
    2. San Sanych
      San Sanych 26 August 2017 13: 33
      +1
      Quote: victorsh
      Foreign capital controls the 2 / 3 food industry.
      And I agree. Let on the shelves there will be 5-6 varieties of sausages and sausages, and not like now. But made from MEAT, and not like now 50 varieties- 2 / 3 which my dog ​​does not eat.

      my cat doesn’t eat sausage, cheese and sour cream, it eats fish and meat, but what I mentioned before doesn’t eat for some reason, that it’s “hinting”))
  6. samarin1969
    samarin1969 26 August 2017 07: 30
    +11
    About turbines, a dependent fleet, imported food components were mentioned back in 2014. Reports about replacing Fed financing with the resources of "funds ... of the Russian Federation" subsided as early as 2015 ... Information is well known. This is the only drawback of the article .... Of the two solutions: confrontation or "agree", the "leaders of the Russian Federation" chose the second. With that, Russia lives under the "propaganda smoke" on television channels ...
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 26 August 2017 09: 28
      +5
      Quote: samarin1969
      With that, Russia lives under the "propaganda smoke" on television channels ...

      I agree with you, just do not live, but survive. hi
  7. zulusuluz
    zulusuluz 26 August 2017 07: 57
    +1
    Maybe you just need to remind Germany WHAT she did when Western countries "clamped" her and Hitler came to power? Maybe it’s worth stopping the economic war to prevent the physical?
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 26 August 2017 08: 17
    +2
    I recall the words from the famous old film: Well, that’s understandable .. But to do, to do what is necessary, to take Petrovka by storm?
    1. San Sanych
      San Sanych 26 August 2017 14: 15
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      I recall the words from the famous old film: Well, that’s understandable .. But to do, to do what is necessary, to take Petrovka by storm?

      not Petrovka, but the Capitol) one famous classic once said: - otherwise do not make the world wolves, as having removed the skin from them off ...
  9. 23rus
    23rus 26 August 2017 08: 48
    +1
    What bad? "The dog barks - the caravan goes." Replacing alternative energy sources is just show off. yes
    1. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy 26 August 2017 12: 57
      +3
      Quote: 23rus
      What bad? "The dog barks - the caravan goes." Replacing alternative energy sources is just show off. yes

      But didn’t you even try to sell gas to your own population, and for this, gasify the whole country at the expense of the state as a project for the development of the country? You look, and the budget is full. No, weak? Or do we only know how to pull pipes at the expense of “public-private partnership” only at a cordon for “partners”?
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 26 August 2017 13: 26
        +9
        Quote: Sovetskiy
        But didn’t you even try to sell gas to your own population, and for this, gasify the whole country at the expense of the state as a project for the country's development?

        Very thick negative
        Quote: Sovetskiy
        You look, and the budget is full

        Compare the price of gas inside the country (this is already for the end consumer, “with delivery to the apartment, shuffle it), and its price“ in the pipe "for foreigners. Surprise, I guarantee.
        By the way, subsidies for the "internal" price of gas - they are from the same pipe "for foreigners."
        Gasifying the "whole country" is unrealistic. Nobody will ever gasify a village one hundred kilometers from a pipe with one and a half people, and never in any country in the world.
        The "gasification percentage" in today's Russia is several times higher than it was under the Union, by the way.

        This is approximately the situation, you are our Soviet wink
        1. nik-karata
          nik-karata 26 August 2017 13: 47
          +1
          Nobody will ever gasify a village one hundred kilometers from a pipe with one and a half people, and never in any country in the world.

          but no! in Chechnya, even without residents, a field with one (!) house and ...... GASIFIED !!! Paradox, say ???
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 26 August 2017 13: 58
            +8
            Quote: nik-karata
            Paradox, say ???

            Nah ... it's a show off laughing

            And so - everything is in force: to gasify "the whole country" (I'm still talking about the Russian Federation) is unrealistic ... and impractical. It’s easier to throw an electric male, since it’s locked.
            1. nik-karata
              nik-karata 29 August 2017 10: 00
              0
              gasify the "whole country" (I'm still talking about the Russian Federation) unreal ... and impractical

              I can not agree!
        2. Sotskiy
          Sotskiy 26 August 2017 13: 53
          +3
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Gasifying the "whole country" is unrealistic. Nobody will ever gasify a village one hundred kilometers from a pipe with one and a half people, and never in any country in the world.

          I agree. In this system of "coordinates" there will definitely not be. That’s the answer to why our people ran to the cities. The great word "Otpimizatsiya"?))) And then what kind of development is everyone here waiting for and waiting for, are you our capitalist?
          The question is, why the hell was "not effective" in such a point of view as yours, did Lenin accept the GOELRO program in 1920? He would have pulled one or two branches of wires to the West and would have removed "cabbage for personal purposes." Why was it necessary to develop the North and the Far East by electrifying the entire (!) Country and villages of "one and a half people" including? Have you heard of the delayed effect? And if you invest in the development of villages with "1.5 people", then in a year there will already be a hundred people. But this concept is for those who are going to live in this territory, and not swing from it, living behind a hill.
          Children of the "free world" damn it!
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 26 August 2017 14: 04
            +10
            Quote: Sovetskiy
            The question is, why the hell then "not effective" from a point of view like yours Lenin adopted the GOELRO program in 1920?

            Confuse gas and electricity ... implicitly. Electricity is much easier to deliver than gas.

            Quote: Sovetskiy
            Why was to explore the North and the Far East electrifying the whole (!) country and villages into "one and a half people" including?

            I do not believe. An example of "electrifying a village of one and a half people" is in a studio (merge now, I guarantee).
            Quote: Sovetskiy
            Have you heard of the delayed effect? And if you invest in the development of villages with "1.5 people", then in a year there will already live a hundred people

            I heard about the effect.
            The charge "will live" is not a fact, excuse me. "A man does not live by gas alone," he would have to work, housing, kindergartens, schools, hospitals and other ... infrastructure.
            By the way, nobody has yet canceled work as a shift. This is the question of the development of inaccessible territories.
            Quote: Sovetskiy
            But this concept is for those who are going to live in this territory, and not swing from it, living behind a hill

            This is the “Horse of Tsepsia” for couch strategists. Personal opinion, I do not pretend to be objective.
            1. Sotskiy
              Sotskiy 26 August 2017 14: 12
              +1
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              The charge "will live" is not a fact, excuse me. "A man does not live by gas alone," he would have to work, housing, kindergartens, schools, hospitals and other ... infrastructure.

              And this is what we are talking about - gas was one of the binders of this list. And when there’s not a damn thing from this list, so "1,5 people" will live there. Go to the Kirov region, there are many such "optimized" villages, wondering in advance what was on this wasteland with an "ineffective scoop". I guarantee, be surprised!)))
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 26 August 2017 14: 34
                +9
                Quote: Sovetskiy
                gas was one of the binders of this list ...

                Oops ... initially it was only about gas, as it seemed to me. Not?
                "It would be nice, it would be nice for us to catch a walrus large" - does not it remind?

                Quote: Sovetskiy
                wondering what was in this wasteland with an "ineffective scoop"

                State farms, probably.
                Old song, sorry. The village began to die out long before the advent of capitalism. I saw it myself (s), I feel good for a fifty dollars already, if only.
                The lack of agricultural land on these lands now - does it somehow affect the production of agricultural products in the Russian Federation? Please think before answering.
                And at the same time take an interest in agricultural efficiency in the same States and the USSR, at least so in the 70s. Just be surprised. I suggest: GMO was not there then, there was almost no chemistry on cattle-poultry fattening either.

                These are the pies request
                1. Sotskiy
                  Sotskiy 26 August 2017 15: 10
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                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  The lack of agricultural land on these lands now - does it somehow affect the production of agricultural products in the Russian Federation? Please think before answering

                  I thought. You know, yes.
                  This is especially evident in the trays in the bazaars and shelves of supermarkets, as well as in wholesale vegetable bases. Russian there on the strength of percent 15.
                  Here are the cakes here.
                  Or will you prove to me that, as an example, pickled cucumbers like "Uncle Vanya" are grown and rolled up in a jar in Russia?). This is about agricultural.
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Oops ... initially it was only about gas, as it seemed to me. Not?

                  In my opinion, we have revealed this topic in yours; "" Man doesn’t live by gas alone, "he would have to work, housing, kindergartens, schools, hospitals and other ... infrastructure." Not?
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  State farms, probably.
                  Old song, sorry. The village began to die out long before the advent of capitalism.

                  Do not tell me the exact time, but something has become with memory (I’m about the same as you).
                  From what I remember, the state farms began to dribble under Gorbachev. If you consider the times of Gorbachev to be the absolute times of the Soviet regime, then yes. I remember very well the artificially created deficit of everything. But here is the problem, it was not always like that.
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 26 August 2017 16: 07
                    +9
                    Quote: Sovetskiy
                    This is especially evident in the trays in the bazaars and shelves of supermarkets, as well as in wholesale vegetable bases. Russian there on the strength of 15 percent

                    These percent are 15 and constitute all that was on the shelves of the Union. Too lazy to look for digital figures, but it is approximately so. You can not believe request
                    About the quality of the same potato that was sold in stores during the Union, and what is now being sold, I will humbly keep silent.
                    How I saw all this agricultural storage under the Union - I saw it personally, we had vegetable depots at the institute (and even at work later).
                    As I recall, so startled. Accordingly, the potato was also that ... with rotten places, to put it mildly. Now I don’t see this for some reason.

                    Quote: Sovetskiy
                    Do not tell me the exact time, but something has become with memory (I’m about the same as you).

                    Lehko.

                    In the 70s, I often visited my grandparents, about 150 km from Moscow, a village with 100 houses. State farm. All fields are sown. But young animals, and still not to thump - count on the fingers.

                    The same impressions of the institute “visits to potatoes” (Sennitsa-2, Ozersky district of Moscow oblast) - only südends worked exclusively (we, that is), and worked ... in good faith, it was customary then. Heaps of grain on the current "amused", covered in some places with polyethylene (this is in September, in rains, og).
                    Young growth in this village was observed in some places, but I personally have never seen it work somewhere. I saw how they thumped, but somehow they didn’t happen to work.

                    If this is not the collapse of the village, then I am a ballerina of the Bolshoi Theater. By the way, in none of the settlements I mentioned was there any gas, naturally, there was even a trace. Electricity + wood stove, and be pleased.

                    I repeat, we are talking about the 70s - 80s of the last century.
                    Quote: Sovetskiy
                    If you consider the times of Gorbachev to be the absolute times of the Soviet regime ...

                    Good question wink
                    Not about that, however. The union objectively began to "move out" even under Lena Brovenosets. And the oil needle was already there, and the collapse of the village, and much, much more.
                    Quote: Sovetskiy
                    ... deficit of everything. But here's the problem, it wasn’t always like that

                    Verily. But here's the fun: the difference in supply between Moscow and, for example, the academic town 50 km from Moscow, was ... striking. Already in the 70s. I don’t need to argue, I was born and raised in that town, and I still have a good memory.

                    It was all so simple then, as it probably seems to you. And not everything is so bad right now as you see it (for sure).
                    1. Sotskiy
                      Sotskiy 26 August 2017 17: 01
                      +1
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      It was all so simple then, as it probably seems to you. And not everything is so bad right now as you see it (for sure).

                      ))) I want to twist the twist I want to confuse?))) I remember this scam from three cups during perestroika at all angles.
                      I will not delve into the technological component of the storage and processing of agriculture in the USSR. There have always been problems there, since the lack of equipment and machinery for agriculture was present as an eternal headache. But at the same time there was a problem of selling and delivering products from overproduction of the same agricultural products. Where is all that now? And is this an excuse for devastation not only in agricultural production, but also in the "optimization" of the settlements themselves? I also grew up and worked at the state farm for some time and I do not need to be "treated".
                      Now "about the good" in the form of a grain crop. Russia still caught up and surpassed the USSR in terms of the amount of grain harvest grown. Hooray! Only here is the question. And how many people lived in the territory of the former USSR for that peak crop and how many now live in the Russian Federation? Comparable?)
                      According to winning reports on the grain bill, I can disappoint. The lion's share of grain of the 1-th / 2-th grade is exported, and therefore, Mr. Medvedev in the recent past, due to crop failure, even imposed an embargo on deliveries abroad. Now do you think that something has changed?) By the quality of the finished products and the price of the bread, is it not noticeable that we have left for "internal use"?)
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      The union objectively began to "move out" even under Lena Brovenosets. And the oil needle was already there, and the collapse of the village, and much, much more.

                      I will correct it. Not the Union began to move out, but the elites were mired in nepotism and theft. The case of Gdlyan and Ivanov is proof of this. And if you approach objectively, from what moment the collapse began, it was the 20 Congress of the Central Committee of the CPSU, at which Khrushch smeared his ass of his own crimes.
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      If this is not the collapse of the village, then I am a ballerina of the Bolshoi Theater. By the way, in none of the settlements I mentioned was there any gas, naturally, there was even a trace. Electricity + wood stove, and be pleased.

                      I read it and thought it over.
                      Let’s do the same now in Moscow? In the form of "optimization" naturally. And we will send taxes from which Moscow lives to those places where the factories are located, and not to the places where they are registered. I wonder how long Moscow will last at the Bolshoi Theaters. And what, people in the outback live like this all their lives. So what is Moscow better then as a "model" of prosperous Russian capitalism?)))
                      And based on the result of equal starting positions, let's see whose system was more effective).
                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 26 August 2017 17: 20
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                        That's honest - I'm bored with you. To me with you I want to sleep from you ...
                        Quote: Sovetskiy
                        ))) I twist the twist I want to confuse?)))

                        You have described yourself very correctly. You carefully flip everything, sorry, upside down.
                        Quote: Sovetskiy
                        there was a problem of selling and delivering products from overproduction of the same agricultural products

                        Especially meat and everything that is made of it, og ...
                        There was no overproduction. There was gouging, useless storage, processing and logistics.
                        This one was real yes
                        Quote: Sovetskiy
                        Russia still caught up and surpassed the USSR in terms of the amount of grain harvest grown. Hooray!

                        And what, not a bang? The Russian Federation (alone, without Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan ... without an ensemble) still surpassed the USSR. Is that bad, or didn’t I understand what?
                        Quote: Sovetskiy
                        I wonder how long Moscow will last at the Bolshoi Theaters.

                        In Moscow and in the field of production, science and everything else, there are much more than in many other places, um ... places. Moscow will live, do not worry.
                        Taxes, by the way, do not go to the budget of Moscow and the region, but to the budget of the Russian Federation. From which the army, the police, the Ministry of Emergencies, medicine, education, the construction of communications, space and other-other-other are contained ...
                        Offer each region to finance its own army (and further on the list)? wink
                        I don’t comment on anything else, because nonsense, I'm sorry.
                        Thank you for your time, adje hi
        3. Andrey Smirnov
          Andrey Smirnov 29 August 2017 05: 24
          +1
          Very thick 

          Type in the search engine-
          "Russia, across the road - Ukraine. How they live in the double village Chertkovo - Melovoe"

          And look at the pictures. On houses wrecks from Ukraine, all houses are gasified, there is a yellow pipe in some places not painted. And even they were not fat to do it. And from Russia there’s a big "bolt. A good example ... And why for your own people, sell for a cordon and fill your pockets, and with your big" bolt "draw here is the whole strategy of our leadership.
  10. Yarik
    Yarik 26 August 2017 09: 44
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    Some "brothers" do not share with other "brothers". How it ends, we already know. New 90's.
  11. Moryarty
    Moryarty 26 August 2017 09: 44
    +5
    The author is completely right. In Russia, there really is nothing of his own, because everywhere foreigners and offshores.
    Get at least products: our best dairy products are made by Pepsico and CocaCola Company (even water!). The same situation with juices.
    In the automotive and other industrial sectors, spare parts and equipment are foreign.
    I wonder how "our elite" with the US and the EU gathered to fight? !!! Although this is not really our elite. I feel that Russia will be "eaten" by the West and the PRC, if the authorities do not come to their senses.
    1. Dry_T-50
      Dry_T-50 26 August 2017 10: 27
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      Quote: Moryarty
      The author is completely right. In Russia, there really is nothing of his own, because everywhere foreigners and offshores.
      Get at least products: our best dairy products are made by Pepsico and CocaCola Company (even water!). The same situation with juices.
      In the automotive and other industrial sectors, spare parts and equipment are foreign.
      I wonder how "our elite" with the US and the EU gathered to fight? !!! Although this is not really our elite. I feel that Russia will be "eaten" by the West and the PRC, if the authorities do not come to their senses.

      And where is “your own” in your understanding? Globalization is a given, the same as the collapse of the protectionist USSR
  12. Dry_T-50
    Dry_T-50 26 August 2017 10: 25
    +2
    Solid propaganda
    The author should be reminded that such people threw away a lot of money to support various African beggars.
  13. Leprikon5656
    Leprikon5656 26 August 2017 10: 48
    +1
    80% of the article is nonsense! He’s afraid of himself and scares others!
  14. Kenxnumx
    Kenxnumx 26 August 2017 11: 39
    +3
    The article is of course leftist and all the adherents of this movement are now fighting in ecstasy. But by and large the author is right in the sense that the modern policy of the Russian leadership leads the country to very big problems. Russia is so integrated into the global economy that sudden movements like Crimea are punishable. The modern economic and political world system is not very balanced anyway, and those who will loosen it are painfully given on the head.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 26 August 2017 11: 58
      +9
      Quote: Ken71
      modern policy of the Russian leadership leads the country to very big problems

      Russia had "very big problems" long before the advent of its modern leadership. Examples: the collapse of the Union ... yes the same Yugoslavia, finally. It is only "pure in politics."

      Quote: Ken71
      Russia is so integrated into the global economy that ...

      The experience of countries that are not “embedded” in the world economy shows that they live poorly. And certainly worse than Russia. Examples: Cuba, DPRK ... continue the sequence.

      Conclusions:
      1. To be "self-sufficient" (in the sense of "isolated from the outside world") and at the same time somehow successful no country in the world is able (Those who wish can try to refute. With examples, plz.).
      2. In order to be successful, a country must be integrated into the global economy and have political weight.
      3. This is precisely what the "current leadership of Russia" leads to.

      What is your discontent? I do not understand request
      1. Kenxnumx
        Kenxnumx 26 August 2017 13: 30
        +1
        Pancake. Yes you are right. You are so right that I have nothing to add. Nearly. I will just repeat it. Since we are already integrated, we should not go across the flagships of this economy. Of course, if in principle nothing threatens us as a country. We needed Crimea or Syria. Vitally necessary for Russia. No. Putin is the president of Russia and not Russian, even in Australia, dofiga. And for Russia, actions to violate the existing world order are dangerous. Silenok is not special. Yes and necessity. We should develop our economy and become closer to other economies, making it indispensable. Like China for example. And with our skinny muscles we brag to professional bodybuilders.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 26 August 2017 13: 42
          +10
          Quote: Ken71
          We needed Crimea or Syria. Vitally necessary for Russia. No

          Stop.

          If the Crimea did not become Russian, it would become (you will probably be surprised), de facto American. Imagine the consequences yourself, or describe in more detail?
          This is besides the fact that to base the Black Sea Fleet in Novorossiysk, for example (and nowhere else) is an extremely unhealthy occupation.

          Syria is a continuation of the "hybrid war" with the United States, the same time gained by political weight in the world, which I mentioned a little higher. And this is only one of the facets of this, um, diamonds.
          Quote: Ken71
          And for Russia, actions to violate the existing world order are dangerous. Silenok is not special. Yes and necessary

          Silenok is enough to fear insolently hurt.
          About the need - I repeat - political weight gaining Russian state. Without a major war, we note that this is a predatory plus to the policy of the "current leadership."
          Quote: Ken71
          We should develop our economy and become closer to other economies, making it indispensable. Like China for example

          China was "approaching" to environmental disaster, for example. Do you really need it?
          The economy is still developing. But the stand on which the Soviet Union’s rocket engines drove was removed from under the window (I exaggerate, but then it was less than a kilometer in a straight line), while they removed it. Far removed, and I am personally pleased with this.
          Quote: Ken71
          ... professional bodybuilders ...

          They have all the muscles on steroids. The view is beautiful, little use laughing
        2. Zheleznostop
          Zheleznostop 29 August 2017 10: 18
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          And large cabinets fall loudly, and as recent events show, sometimes dead. And if in the Crimea the Zhid-Bandera would begin to poke Russians, then there would not have been bespectacled youngsters with iPhones on the square.
  15. 23rus
    23rus 26 August 2017 17: 24
    +2
    Quote: Ken71
    Russians who even in Australia dofiga

    Do you propose annexing Australia? drinks
  16. Alvul
    Alvul 26 August 2017 21: 54
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    There is no need now to carry out Stalinist industrialization. Only a waste of energy. It's time to merge into one-stop global governance. In the USA and around the world, everything is also very fragile, so it makes sense to jointly try to build a new society on the old wreckage of both Russia and the USA.
    1. Alf
      Alf 27 August 2017 15: 17
      +2
      Quote: AlVul
      It's time to merge into one-stop global governance.

      So we are already integrated. Look out the window. Fine ?
      And who will manage? States?
      Another liberty came running ...
      1. Alvul
        Alvul 27 August 2017 20: 57
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        Yes, the states. Because what's the difference? Or want another superpower? But isn’t it unprofitable for all of us on the globe? There is already the only superpower in the world. What does the "liberalist" have to do with it? Why do we earthlings a few such liberalists? Or are you closer to the locals? To me, the fewer there will be - the easier. Because it is possible to build a normal life that will supplant such recent liberalists. You are fighting in a losing war, and do not want to see the future, a victorious future.
        1. Alf
          Alf 28 August 2017 22: 38
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          Quote: AlVul
          Yes, the states. Because what's the difference? Or want another superpower? But isn’t it unprofitable for all of us on the globe? There is already the only superpower in the world. What does the "liberalist" have to do with it? Why do we earthlings a few such liberalists? Or are you closer to the locals? To me, the fewer there will be - the easier. Because it is possible to build a normal life that will supplant such recent liberalists. You are fighting in a losing war, and do not want to see the future, a victorious future.

          Have you been mistaken by the forum? You on the Echo of Moscow, so all such lovers of America gathered.
          1. Alvul
            Alvul 28 August 2017 22: 44
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            I, as it were, are not a fan of America.
        2. Zheleznostop
          Zheleznostop 29 August 2017 10: 19
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          States go along with adepts.
  17. Reklastik
    Reklastik 27 August 2017 16: 06
    +2
    And although Moscow claims that the turbines were created in Russia under a German license, actually 65% ​​of the shares of the company that built the turbines belong to the same Siemens
    Well, what does it have to do if Power Machines cannot make turbines of the required capacity, because over the 18 years of Putin’s work, the state bought abroad, and did not focus on the domestic market and manufacturers? What does the action ??? If the country cannot make a power cable to lay it to the Crimea and buys it from China ???
  18. valtom
    valtom 27 August 2017 21: 32
    +1
    it was not necessary to destroy the USSR on the principle of breaking it and then we will build a new world and whoever was who he will become everything. So they became everything. Mediocre disposition of the inheritance after the USSR. Not everything was bad there. Gaydarushka with his retinue was selling such enterprises at auctions for nothing that his mother didn’t worry, and that Westerners had their own interest. But there is a method of nationalization to the extreme. To drive the oligarchs differently, the country will perish, and if our common people don’t understand this, we will remain without a country. Homeland and future. And then they will surely be erased as a nation.
  19. Yeti
    Yeti 27 August 2017 22: 03
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    Communism carries a mile away. Well, the formula "from each according to his ability, to each according to his work" did not justify itself. 90% of the production goes to Russia. This is primarily the country's budget. And therefore there is nothing shameful in selling abroad and will not be. Otherwise, all oil and gas countries simply have to burn with shame. ))))))))))))
    1. ADmA_RUS
      ADmA_RUS 28 August 2017 15: 48
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      There is no communism from the word at all.
  20. Like in Crimea
    Like in Crimea 28 August 2017 10: 41
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    It's not that bad. Of course there is a lot in offshore (on 25.0.17 - 75% of Russian money), something is controlled by foreigners, but it was almost always like that in Russia, this is the global trend of "globalization". It is clear that the articles are written deliberately in dark colors, but you can’t assume that everything is around, and I’m so smart, I heard something and voiced how many problems there are in the country. It is in our power to work for our family, our country, for ourselves in the end. We have arms, legs, a head. And the country is big, sensible people. A little desire and initiative, not whining!
  21. Bert
    Bert 29 August 2017 04: 58
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    Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
    Solid propaganda
    The author should be reminded that such people threw away a lot of money to support various African beggars.

    Because there was money both for space and for African holodrozete.
    Quote: bald
    The article is a solid bogeyman, on all counts. Not immediately, but it is an economic upswing. Even for simple oil, gas is needed by anyone (without the northern stream) - you want to pick it up yourself, you want to drive it yourself (tankers will quickly build it). We are cheaper and they will not care about the states and then they will crawl. Baltic terminals will be built quickly.

    The article is not a scarecrow but reflects the true state of affairs in the country. Estimate Stalin would not develop the tractor structure of the aircraft and other industries, but would buy it in the same Germany and do you think we would have won the 41 year war? But now we can not very much of what the USSR produced. Aircraft tractor from a car remained KAMAZ. That is, we can only gas and oil now, and in everything else we are completely dependent on the West. Siemens puts turbines will be light, etc. Avionics engines will bring civilian aircraft. As I remember before, we were not dependent on the West in anything. We did everything ourselves. This was our complete independence.
    And now we are lying under the Americans; like you or not, you are already in your pocket. Well, of course, you can puff up your cheeks with pride driven in by a zombie hunter. But this will not fall off for long. Everything ever ends and it's time to pay the bills. By the way, South Africa has the richest gold deposits of diamonds, but here is something in the list of advanced countries of South Africa that does not appear even though there is full integration into the world economy. At the same time, bare-backed Japan is a sea of ​​cliffs and fish we would have before it. Where they think with their heads, they live well without natural resources.
    The collective farms were bad, but there was work in the village. In stores, not a lot but natural products, albeit with gloss but without GMOs. Yes, there were no beautiful wrappers with poison. But there was a dairy and meat processing plant in each district center, not to mention the region. The most interesting thing is that there are no cows and the counters are bursting with dairy products. Who was the last to see a milk carrier? Let me remind you this device for transporting milk from a farmer, a collective farm to a dairy, where milk is actually processed into what you then see on a chicken. Production is also jobs and confidence in the future. And gas oil today and tomorrow?
  22. edits
    edits 29 August 2017 06: 27
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    Well, then the truth is always ugly but sobering ... although not all ...
  23. Vadimsh
    Vadimsh 29 August 2017 10: 06
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    there is a good proverb - a drop of tar and kapets to a barrel of honey. about everything from the same article, the author delicately kept silent about many things ... an example is titanium used in the blades of Boeing turbines, etc. purely RF production not supplied in the form of raw materials but products (and this, by the way, is the most interchangeable item), hence the question of what will the same Boeing do if it does not?