ARMY-2017. Apologies for not understanding
After reading the views of some readers and talking to the organizers of the forum "ARMY-2017", we want to bring our apologies for the fact that we simply do not understand some things.
We seem to be representatives of the Russian media who have accredited to the event with one goal: to tell about it to their readers. Someone "give a picture" as a reason for "Urya!", Someone - to tell and show really what appeared new, intelligent and interesting.
Actually, the goal of a journalist and a correspondent is to cover an event. Either beautiful or true. You can combine, it is not forbidden. And the organizers are also obliged to work for this. Then at the exit - interesting and informative materials.
But we have a number of misunderstandings. And these misunderstandings became the reason for a rather mild, from our point of view, critical article, which provoked a rather peculiar reaction.
And I would like to talk about misunderstanding.
We do not understand why it was impossible to organize everything initially. And, most importantly, set a combat mission. If it were said that all that was required of us was to give a beautiful picture, in general, we would not have riveted it. This case takes 2-3 hours. And the video, like TASS, in 54 seconds, would have been posted already hours in 14.
We do not understand why you need to spend time and nerves just to get into the parking area. Overcoming difficulties and hardships in the face of absolutely stupid guards who do not want to let go, no matter what.
We do not understand why the way from entry to the beginning of work took 4 hours. Here and the fight against security, which someone gave a pointer to shmon all cars, and a two-kilometer way to the entrance, and the absence of badges, which for some reason remained in Moscow and the lucky ones were stuck in the traffic jam, and the absolute unpreparedness of the beauties at the reception for this situation. Yes, the input of the guys who printed the passes again, corrected the situation. But time was completely killed.
We do not understand why we all were among the potential terrorists. Thanks to one of the organizers, I clarified that if a VIP with a guard enters the territory of the Patriot (Putin, Medvedev, Shoigu and lower in rank), all “not theirs” are obliged to sit in the cells. CTO mode.
We do not understand why we were then checked during the issuance of accreditation, inspected at the entrance and carefully - at the entrance. And to whom is there less confidence: to their security structures or to the Russians in the face of the press?
It is not clear why it was impossible to at least explain. Came, for example, suddenly Putin. He (like Shoigu) is removed only by those who are allowed to do so. If Colonel Klimov had said that, there would be less questions and misunderstanding. But just a ban on leaving the press center without explanation - it was not at all clear.
It is not clear why it was impossible to somehow arrange, so that the paths of VIPs and the press did not overlap. 3 (three) hours were just killed on the bus seat on the way to the exhibition of trophies from Syria. From the buses can not go, KTO. Someone there decided to explore the exhibition and talk in my life. And then they simply suggested that everyone either walk to the village of partisans and take a walk there for a while, or throw them back.
We do not understand our duty to prove our right to shoot. Accreditation passed, there is a document about it. No, it is necessary to sit and wait again, until someone from the higher authorities gives permission for people with pointers to answer our questions on camera.
“I don’t know if you can tell you something.” Funny answer, isn't it? For what then the devil or this car was dragged to the exhibition, or we were allowed to shoot?
We do not understand, since we came to cover the events, then why should this be done on a residual basis? Well, if the forum "ARMY ..." is a marketing enterprise for displaying equipment to foreigners, then why call the whole crowd? Well, they would have let the "Star", "1 channel" and the press service of the Ministry of Defense. They can all. And then we would look at their work and envy.
It was estimated that the loss of time in man-hours for three in three days was about 20 hours. This is the time that could be spent on work, and not on stupid sitting and waiting.
The attitude towards the Russian media is poorly understood (there was not only discontent with us), who with rare exceptions were put in the position of beggars. But we understand perfectly well why with 24.08, after the release of that article, the situation changed dramatically.
Immediately answer the numerous questions from the organizers: "And what you did not come up and did not say?" And what's the point? We came to work. First and foremost, and not try to solve their working moments. We applied for at least one car’s passes so as not to drag all the equipment from Minsk Highway to the farthest entrance (“C”).
Appealed to Plinsky. He blinked slightly, and then snapped: "There will be no permits." Okay, do not fall apart, let's go. There, just minutes 30 peshochkom walk. We're not VIPs, really. With all this, the parking was occupied well, percent on 40, not more.
Plinsky at least pretended to be listening. Egorov, he didn’t even look, immediately dismissed the questions.
Well, the point was further to spend time searching for the object for the question? We, I emphasize, have arrived to work. Steadily overcoming and all that.
Although for organizing a trip to the exhibition of Syrian trophies, thank you. As well as for personal security for our Max Bochkov. Maxim, accompanied by a major and lieutenant, looked very impressive. Although in vain they did not believe that he only shoots. And in vain fellow officers chased him.
It's a shame, of course, that we still live in a society with color gradation of pants, that is, badges. And it is not clear why our media constantly find themselves in the position of poor relatives, although, as it were, God himself would order the opposite. But I have already given an example with “Armata”, it is not worth repeating.
If the Defense Ministry is only interested in the media giving a beautiful picture and squealing as much as possible on the topic “how cool everything is”, no question. Enough, I repeat, it would say. And in advance, BEFORE we arrived there.
“Guys, do not worry, for detailed stories and shows there is a“ Star ”. And the point. The rest is for extras. That would be understandable, and even our not quite intelligent brains would cope with this task.
If this entire forum is just an advertising platform for potential buyers, it’s not a question. Just why then all this noise and din? And frankly stupid non-professional statements that the "ARMY-2017 forum showed that the Russian army is ready for the 21 century war"?
In general, the marketing flares up. Well, let. Apparently, it was considered necessary at the top. Foreign buyers everywhere have a road, the Russians somehow survive.
The only mistake made by us, for which I really want to once again offer my apologies to Alexander Anatolyevich Rozhkov. Yes, there was a misunderstanding with a night show, yes, they spoke with the wrong person. Fact. We have finally given up on everything, so we did not go on looking for someone who is in the know. To blame.
Otherwise, everything is as we described. Since the Ministry of Defense only needs a pretty picture in style news channels - no question. More precisely, the question is not even worth it. Fell.
Now a few words to our readers.
We, of course, understand that with our criticism we look in the eyes of the site "urya-patriots" almost traitors. Not a question either. Consume, dear, beautiful pictures and be happy in this process. If there is a wonderful TASS video, where 40 has been running for 54 from the minutes of the show, confirm your confidence that “from the taiga to the British seas ...”, we wish you a pleasant viewing experience.
Then they reminded one of us that some time ago there were statements about the “Patriot” unflattering. Well, has something changed? And the huge park runs 12 months in a year? And we missed something?
It seems to be all in the same places. And in total, the work (forum and “Army Games”) is still the same one month a year. Well, some activities such as the failed Sturm Reichstag. The rest of the time, I'm sorry, “Patriot” is nothing more than just empty squares. Confident in the opposite - prove, if not difficult.
Yes, it is possible that in a week of shows to foreigners you can pin so much money that everything pays off. But this is absolutely not our business, as the Patriot has no effect on Russian patriotism. So we are happy for the profits of our military industrial complex, nothing more.
As for criticism. Maybe someone believes that it is not needed, especially if the topic? And the Defense Ministry is absolutely untouchable? Is everything clean and smooth? And in the military industrial complex, too?
Well, in this case there is a "Star" and "1 channel." There, of course, your opinion in the comments will not be asked, alas. But, given our status as an independent media, we will make critical comments if we consider them weighty. Not to make a noise, but to ensure that journalists, who will come, say, to the forum in 2020, are not faced with what we have seen and experienced.
If, of course, it will be necessary.
We seem to be representatives of the Russian media who have accredited to the event with one goal: to tell about it to their readers. Someone "give a picture" as a reason for "Urya!", Someone - to tell and show really what appeared new, intelligent and interesting.
Actually, the goal of a journalist and a correspondent is to cover an event. Either beautiful or true. You can combine, it is not forbidden. And the organizers are also obliged to work for this. Then at the exit - interesting and informative materials.
But we have a number of misunderstandings. And these misunderstandings became the reason for a rather mild, from our point of view, critical article, which provoked a rather peculiar reaction.
And I would like to talk about misunderstanding.
We do not understand why it was impossible to organize everything initially. And, most importantly, set a combat mission. If it were said that all that was required of us was to give a beautiful picture, in general, we would not have riveted it. This case takes 2-3 hours. And the video, like TASS, in 54 seconds, would have been posted already hours in 14.
We do not understand why you need to spend time and nerves just to get into the parking area. Overcoming difficulties and hardships in the face of absolutely stupid guards who do not want to let go, no matter what.
We do not understand why the way from entry to the beginning of work took 4 hours. Here and the fight against security, which someone gave a pointer to shmon all cars, and a two-kilometer way to the entrance, and the absence of badges, which for some reason remained in Moscow and the lucky ones were stuck in the traffic jam, and the absolute unpreparedness of the beauties at the reception for this situation. Yes, the input of the guys who printed the passes again, corrected the situation. But time was completely killed.
We do not understand why we all were among the potential terrorists. Thanks to one of the organizers, I clarified that if a VIP with a guard enters the territory of the Patriot (Putin, Medvedev, Shoigu and lower in rank), all “not theirs” are obliged to sit in the cells. CTO mode.
We do not understand why we were then checked during the issuance of accreditation, inspected at the entrance and carefully - at the entrance. And to whom is there less confidence: to their security structures or to the Russians in the face of the press?
It is not clear why it was impossible to at least explain. Came, for example, suddenly Putin. He (like Shoigu) is removed only by those who are allowed to do so. If Colonel Klimov had said that, there would be less questions and misunderstanding. But just a ban on leaving the press center without explanation - it was not at all clear.
It is not clear why it was impossible to somehow arrange, so that the paths of VIPs and the press did not overlap. 3 (three) hours were just killed on the bus seat on the way to the exhibition of trophies from Syria. From the buses can not go, KTO. Someone there decided to explore the exhibition and talk in my life. And then they simply suggested that everyone either walk to the village of partisans and take a walk there for a while, or throw them back.
We do not understand our duty to prove our right to shoot. Accreditation passed, there is a document about it. No, it is necessary to sit and wait again, until someone from the higher authorities gives permission for people with pointers to answer our questions on camera.
“I don’t know if you can tell you something.” Funny answer, isn't it? For what then the devil or this car was dragged to the exhibition, or we were allowed to shoot?
We do not understand, since we came to cover the events, then why should this be done on a residual basis? Well, if the forum "ARMY ..." is a marketing enterprise for displaying equipment to foreigners, then why call the whole crowd? Well, they would have let the "Star", "1 channel" and the press service of the Ministry of Defense. They can all. And then we would look at their work and envy.
It was estimated that the loss of time in man-hours for three in three days was about 20 hours. This is the time that could be spent on work, and not on stupid sitting and waiting.
The attitude towards the Russian media is poorly understood (there was not only discontent with us), who with rare exceptions were put in the position of beggars. But we understand perfectly well why with 24.08, after the release of that article, the situation changed dramatically.
Immediately answer the numerous questions from the organizers: "And what you did not come up and did not say?" And what's the point? We came to work. First and foremost, and not try to solve their working moments. We applied for at least one car’s passes so as not to drag all the equipment from Minsk Highway to the farthest entrance (“C”).
Appealed to Plinsky. He blinked slightly, and then snapped: "There will be no permits." Okay, do not fall apart, let's go. There, just minutes 30 peshochkom walk. We're not VIPs, really. With all this, the parking was occupied well, percent on 40, not more.
Plinsky at least pretended to be listening. Egorov, he didn’t even look, immediately dismissed the questions.
Well, the point was further to spend time searching for the object for the question? We, I emphasize, have arrived to work. Steadily overcoming and all that.
Although for organizing a trip to the exhibition of Syrian trophies, thank you. As well as for personal security for our Max Bochkov. Maxim, accompanied by a major and lieutenant, looked very impressive. Although in vain they did not believe that he only shoots. And in vain fellow officers chased him.
It's a shame, of course, that we still live in a society with color gradation of pants, that is, badges. And it is not clear why our media constantly find themselves in the position of poor relatives, although, as it were, God himself would order the opposite. But I have already given an example with “Armata”, it is not worth repeating.
If the Defense Ministry is only interested in the media giving a beautiful picture and squealing as much as possible on the topic “how cool everything is”, no question. Enough, I repeat, it would say. And in advance, BEFORE we arrived there.
“Guys, do not worry, for detailed stories and shows there is a“ Star ”. And the point. The rest is for extras. That would be understandable, and even our not quite intelligent brains would cope with this task.
If this entire forum is just an advertising platform for potential buyers, it’s not a question. Just why then all this noise and din? And frankly stupid non-professional statements that the "ARMY-2017 forum showed that the Russian army is ready for the 21 century war"?
In general, the marketing flares up. Well, let. Apparently, it was considered necessary at the top. Foreign buyers everywhere have a road, the Russians somehow survive.
The only mistake made by us, for which I really want to once again offer my apologies to Alexander Anatolyevich Rozhkov. Yes, there was a misunderstanding with a night show, yes, they spoke with the wrong person. Fact. We have finally given up on everything, so we did not go on looking for someone who is in the know. To blame.
Otherwise, everything is as we described. Since the Ministry of Defense only needs a pretty picture in style news channels - no question. More precisely, the question is not even worth it. Fell.
Now a few words to our readers.
We, of course, understand that with our criticism we look in the eyes of the site "urya-patriots" almost traitors. Not a question either. Consume, dear, beautiful pictures and be happy in this process. If there is a wonderful TASS video, where 40 has been running for 54 from the minutes of the show, confirm your confidence that “from the taiga to the British seas ...”, we wish you a pleasant viewing experience.
Then they reminded one of us that some time ago there were statements about the “Patriot” unflattering. Well, has something changed? And the huge park runs 12 months in a year? And we missed something?
It seems to be all in the same places. And in total, the work (forum and “Army Games”) is still the same one month a year. Well, some activities such as the failed Sturm Reichstag. The rest of the time, I'm sorry, “Patriot” is nothing more than just empty squares. Confident in the opposite - prove, if not difficult.
Yes, it is possible that in a week of shows to foreigners you can pin so much money that everything pays off. But this is absolutely not our business, as the Patriot has no effect on Russian patriotism. So we are happy for the profits of our military industrial complex, nothing more.
As for criticism. Maybe someone believes that it is not needed, especially if the topic? And the Defense Ministry is absolutely untouchable? Is everything clean and smooth? And in the military industrial complex, too?
Well, in this case there is a "Star" and "1 channel." There, of course, your opinion in the comments will not be asked, alas. But, given our status as an independent media, we will make critical comments if we consider them weighty. Not to make a noise, but to ensure that journalists, who will come, say, to the forum in 2020, are not faced with what we have seen and experienced.
If, of course, it will be necessary.
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