Examination of the case of "drunken boy" conducted with dozens of violations

Russia Today publishes materials with professional assessments of a forensic medical examination in the case of the death of 6-year-old Alyosha Shimko in the Moscow Region. Recall that earlier forensic medical examination allegedly showed that in the boy’s blood at the time of death not only alcohol was present, but also was present in incredible amounts - more than 2,7 per mille. In this regard, the scandalous case of hitting in the courtyard near the high-rise buildings near Moscow received a very peculiar name: "the case of a drunken boy."


Journalists TK Russia Today found that in the preparation of the forensic report more than 40 violations and gross errors were committed. The conclusion about the presence of alcohol in the blood of Alyosha Shimko was made without additional examinations required in such cases.

Examination of the case of "drunken boy" conducted with dozens of violations


The examination did not reflect exactly what kind of biomaterials came to the laboratory for research, whether they were sealed according to the procedure or not, whether the necessary packaging was available, whether it was stored at the time of arrival of the biomaterials for research.

RT, referring to the expert, reports that Mikhail Kleymyonov (that is the name of the expert who conducted the examination) did not even indicate the time for fixing the corpse phenomena, in fact refused to conduct studies that would definitely confirm the results of the analysis.

From the material:
The heart, aorta, pancreas, spleen, pelvic bones were not fully investigated, no forensic histological examination of internal organ pieces was carried out, which is not acceptable. The expert even incorrectly established the cause of death of the child. Instead of concluding that death had occurred as a result of squeezing the brain, Kleymenov wrote that death was caused by an open head injury.


A medical specialist comments that if the blood of an 6-year-old child really had alcohol in the amount of 2,7 per mil (about 240 and vodka for body weight up to 25 kg), the child would not be able to move not only on the scooter, but also on their own feet.

Meanwhile, the trial of Olga Alisova began in the Zheleznodorozhny City Court, which itself declared that it did not believe in the boy's alcoholic intoxication. Alisova fully admits his guilt, while stating that "the media have ruined her life." By law, she faces up to 5 years in prison.
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  1. himRa 23 August 2017 18: 07 New
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    Journalists of the Russia Today shopping mall found that more than 40 violations and gross errors were made in the preparation of the forensic report. The conclusion about the presence of alcohol in the blood of Alyosha Shimko was made without additional examinations laid down in such cases

    Here are those rare occasions when you mentally thank the journalists!
    1. Zibelew 23 August 2017 18: 07 New
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      And so they would have let it down on tomoz ...
      1. Teberii 23 August 2017 18: 17 New
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        A drunken six-year-old boy was riding a bicycle around the yard, using obscene language, and acting on police officers, and here a strange aunt, Chekhov, in a word.
        1. Zibelew 23 August 2017 18: 20 New
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          Apparently, the blood test of the driver Alisova turned into a blood test of the boy she shot down. It is obvious that the aunt rode at a speed of over 20 km. hour in the yard.
          1. Air defense SSH 24 August 2017 10: 18 New
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            Question: What difference was the little boy drunk or not? After all, he is a child, and as a child, the law does not have to be adequate, especially since he was not on the roadway, but in the courtyard of the house and did not sit behind the wheel of a car at the time of the accident. I can’t understand how the boy’s drunkenness could help the woman with his car? Soon, our investigators and lawyers will demand an alcoholic examination from infants in a collision of prams ...
        2. Esoteric 23 August 2017 19: 39 New
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          Quote: Teberii
          Chekhov in one word.

          Do you know how many such Chekhov stories are throughout Russia? The powers that be are rude to themselves and cover up their relatives and acquaintances ... And a little fried robe creeps up, they start yelling about what they are "with us, from one boiler ..."
      2. svp67 23 August 2017 18: 34 New
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        Quote: Zibelew
        And so they would have let it down on tomoz ...

        No. There, the RosGuard Command joined ... would not have given.
        1. St Petrov 23 August 2017 18: 42 New
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          It is necessary for everyone who wrote fake reports to attract. such things need to be twisted exponentially.

          Pity for the parents of course. I wonder whose protege this chicken has run over.

          Mikhail Kleimenov should be held accountable in the first place. Lice are not afraid of anything, even knowing that the matter is supervised

          1. Vita vko 23 August 2017 20: 12 New
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            Quote: c-Petrov
            I wonder whose protege this chicken has run over.

            In fact of the matter! In the media that "spoiled the life of this chicken" was inf. That this is the wife of a criminal authority, who is in the zone and should soon be released. This I understand the corruption of communication!
            1. sichevik 23 August 2017 20: 37 New
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              Quote: Vita VKO
              Quote: c-Petrov
              I wonder whose protege this chicken has run over.

              In fact of the matter! In the media that "spoiled the life of this chicken" was inf. That this is the wife of a criminal authority, who is in the zone and should soon be released. This I understand the corruption of communication!
              1. sichevik 23 August 2017 20: 41 New
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                Yes, not authority, but a bandit. Black realtor. They killed lonely pensioners, alcoholics and sold apartments using fake documents. There were four or five of them in the gang. I do not know for sure. But that's what people say. I myself now live in Zheleznodorozhny. So the people say this. For what I bought, as they say, for that I sell it.
                1. Black5Raven 23 August 2017 20: 56 New
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                  We have such "non-humans" recently tried. A gang of four people, 3 males and one female (pregnant). Two will be shot, the rest is a long time.
                  All to the wall, that this "authority", that we have 2 remaining. A few were buried alive ...
                2. ihappy 24 August 2017 13: 22 New
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                  He is not sitting for murder.
          2. Barbulator 23 August 2017 22: 03 New
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            Quote: c-Petrov
            whose protégé is this run-over chicken.

            And she is a protege of criminal authority. Need to continue?
          3. andr327 23 August 2017 22: 03 New
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            Can drunk be crushed already? What difference does it make - the driver has not taken measures to ensure safety and is responsible regardless of this.
          4. GradusHuK 23 August 2017 23: 22 New
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            s. Petrov Today, 18:42 It is NECESSARY not to fit into any frames!
      3. Tusv 23 August 2017 19: 33 New
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        Quote: Zibelew
        And so they would have let it down on tomoz ...

        2,7 ppm in the blood of a 6 year old boy? . My question is whether the boy could move. It is not necessary to inject, you can put an enema while the child was alive. Something seems to me that it was just that
        1. Tusv 23 August 2017 21: 00 New
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          Syringing is quite a normal attribute of a woman. You will find it, well, in other matters for American justice, and without it, it’s enough for an injection, a gas chamber or an electric chair
      4. jonhr 23 August 2017 22: 10 New
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        and that drunk can be brought down without consequences? I don’t understand why all this nonsense was organized that the boy was drunk. how can this justify hitting? she said that the boy himself would throw himself under the wheels. Well, so sorry in such areas more than 20 km per hour and it is forbidden to move. and there she dragged another 10 meters of the boy after the collision
        1. Krabik 23 August 2017 22: 56 New
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          Everything is obvious there.

          Baba drove around the yards, as if on a highway and crushed a child who usually walk around the house.

          And in order not to sit down her friends went out of control for one dragging the rotten cop structures into the funnel.

          I think that for such a crime the cops should be severely punished, preferably hanging.

          Because this Mentavian structure is so rotten that they don’t even worry about maniacs who kill 50 women each and even try to release such things on the brakes.

          I even got an association of our cops with punishers of the SS 2 of World War II.
          1. AID.S 24 August 2017 07: 23 New
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            Quote: Krabik
            I even got an association of our cops with punishers of the SS 2 of World War II.

            It’s not worth putting all your associations on public display.
            1. Krabik 24 August 2017 10: 17 New
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              It’s not for you to tell me what I should do or not.

              The same punishers who carry out genocide of the local population selling drugs and roofing thugs and maniacs who rape old people with bottles in their police department.

              In my opinion a very relevant comparison.
              Perhaps the SS sheep did not rape the old people with bottles.
              1. AID.S 25 August 2017 09: 34 New
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                Quote: Krabik
                Not you tell me

                A wish, not an indication.
          2. ihappy 24 August 2017 13: 22 New
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            Well, what are you driving a blizzard ...
            The husband is not sitting for murder.
            And here time otmazyvayut for murder.
            The logic is just ...
            Why does a woman have more than one hundred thousand rubles to fake an examination?
            And given that such an examination does not change ANYTHING! That actually raises the question of how to be a stupid person to believe in it?

            You invent garbage, so at least keep quiet.
          3. Alf
            Alf 24 August 2017 21: 34 New
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            Quote: Krabik
            I think that for such a crime the cops should be severely punished, preferably hanging.

            We’ll stay without policemen.
            1. Krabik 24 August 2017 22: 20 New
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              Everything is good in moderation.
      5. ihappy 24 August 2017 13: 20 New
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        What does it mean on the brakes?
        the woman pleaded guilty.
        Her term shines in ANY case!
        The inventor.
        1. Krabik 24 August 2017 14: 33 New
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          She admitted because its roof covering creaked and went at the seams.

          The fact is that things only started after dad got through to Putin on a direct line.
          1. ihappy 29 August 2017 03: 51 New
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            She admitted even before the examination.
            No need to invent something that you do not know. It looks wretched.
    2. Gardamir 23 August 2017 19: 29 New
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      thank the journalists!
      They say dad has a boy National Guard.
      1. Black5Raven 23 August 2017 20: 58 New
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        In any case, journalists, the media and the Internet would not have allowed to let go on the brakes, it caused a very great resonance, even if it had not been from the National Guard (if it is)
        1. Krabik 24 August 2017 01: 59 New
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          Dad was lucky that he was able to get through to Putin in a straight line.

          And the media has already picked up a hot topic;)
  2. Logall 23 August 2017 18: 07 New
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    All involved must be judged. But they will condemn some laboratory assistant!
    1. himRa 23 August 2017 18: 11 New
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      Quote: Logall
      All involved must be judged. But they will condemn some laboratory assistant!

      Can all the same figure it out? Then judge ... 40! Violations ... difficult to judge based on false information ...
      1. Logall 23 August 2017 18: 15 New
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        Did I say something else? Understand and condemn all involved!
        And not having money, at the mercy, the laboratory assistant!Or do you also think the boy was drunk?
        1. himRa 23 August 2017 18: 25 New
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          Quote: Logall
          Or do you also think the boy was drunk?

          Nobody forbids to think! In such resonant matters it is necessary to keep quiet, do not throw out emotions before they figure it out ...no need to disturb the public
          Stalin has nothing to do with it ...
          1. Logall 23 August 2017 18: 32 New
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            And his quote! It reflects the absurdity of what is happening. With money, who, maybe a child `` drunk '' ...
            1. himRa 23 August 2017 18: 42 New
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              And at that time there were untouchables and now there are, people are not the same!
              As one, Jehovah’s Witness, told me, we are all equal! Only the fact that the rest of the parishioners do not go and do not recruit in their ranks ... there are, equal, but there is, more equal,
              Why should I be equal with some drunk. Who does not want to work, sits on his mother’s neck !!?
              So headquarters ... Joseph Vissarionych has nothing to do with it, I personally respect him ..
              1. sabakina 23 August 2017 19: 06 New
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                You have equality! One is free to work, the other is free to score at work. What's wrong?
                1. himRa 23 August 2017 19: 23 New
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                  Quote: sabakina
                  You have equality! One is free to work, the other is free to score at work. What's wrong?

                  I don’t even want to answer a question, especially in such a topic
                  As a driver in the prosecutor’s office, you know that here not this way
                  Let's wait or ... convict before the trial?
                  1. sabakina 23 August 2017 19: 29 New
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                    Rakhim, since 1986, after vocational school I have been working as best I can, my yard friend knocks down rubles ... I saw a lot of my friends, how they drank and left ... Sometimes I think. but I, too, was on the verge of what held me back? Not so simple in this life ...
                    1. himRa 23 August 2017 20: 23 New
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                      Quote: sabakina
                      but I, too, was on the verge of what held me back?

                      Yes, I understand everything. Glory! I was restrained by fear when a large half, of those who like to drink, went to the other world and the rest of the disabled (stroke) had a heart attack by a hillock, died in their arms and could not pump out.
                      And the 30 year old son came and said:
                      -Batya we need you!
                      So now I play with my grandchildren, and a neighbor and friend of whom I even persuaded to encode on my graveyard at my expense ...
                      I understand about corruption and nepotism and what now to arrange a revolution? It’s not enough for a long time and a lot of people will die! Let it remain as it is
                      1. sabakina 23 August 2017 21: 12 New
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                        Rahim, who has Willpower, thirst for life ,. it’s just "sick of living" ... I want to tax at the service desk. to buy kg of cow's liver for not 2 days! And so they lived. "
              2. Logall 23 August 2017 19: 22 New
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                I don’t remember what I would say about that time! I quoted a quote from Stalin and all. If I quoted Caligula, would you talk about the morals of ancient Rome?
                All this time I have been hinting that the law is not the same for everyone. What are hundreds of drunk boys. What a mutual responsibility zadolbala (this is a mat)! And what, for the stubborn, I do not have enough time and patience !!!
                1. himRa 23 August 2017 19: 30 New
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                  Quote: Logall
                  All this time I have been hinting that the law is not the same for everyone.

                  You expressed your opinion (hints)
                  I expressed my
                  Stubborn you say ... heh ..
                  If you don’t have enough time, don’t waste time on virtual storage, you are our witty!
                  1. sabakina 23 August 2017 19: 33 New
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                    himRa, believe me, there is mutual responsibility. The main thing is to be part of the bail.
                  2. Logall 23 August 2017 21: 02 New
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                    I do not have a virtual `` kill '' them! I am writing here in order to be heard (not to be confused with `` listened '').
                    But not all who have ears can! Some have philosophical conversations ...
                2. ss29 24 August 2017 00: 06 New
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                  I agree, Chubais and Serdyukov prove to the whole country.
          2. Alf
            Alf 23 August 2017 20: 46 New
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            Quote: himRa
            no need to disturb the public

            In Russia, such a national feature, if you do not disturb the public, then any business is jammed.
          3. AUL
            AUL 23 August 2017 22: 32 New
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            In such resonant matters it is necessary to keep quiet, do not throw out emotions before they figure it out ... do not disturb the public
            If the public had not been agitated, the case would have been covered up! Not enough examples?
        2. ihappy 29 August 2017 15: 39 New
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          Quote: Logall
          Or do you also think the boy was drunk

          1. Why are you sure that the child was not drunk?
          Do you have any information from god that he was sober?
          Or do you believe that children cannot be drunk?
          especially 2.6 ppm is a glass of vodka.
          2. Why are you sure it falsified the expertise?
          again, infa from god?
          Or did you conduct an examination?
          3. Why do not you think that it could be a stupid mistake?
          4. Why are you justifying someone without knowing ANYTHING (!!!) ??

          Some questions that you are unlikely to give intelligible answers.
      2. Esso 23 August 2017 18: 15 New
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        This is not the end of the story, it is necessary to exert pressure on justice so that the culprit is judged by a panel of judges, otherwise the court will give her conditionally and that's it ....
        1. Logall 23 August 2017 18: 26 New
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          So, it turns out that there are some special circumstances, so the trial will be held behind closed doors ... Passed!
          1. sabakina 23 August 2017 19: 04 New
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            Sasha, if we are silent, they will transmit not only our children, but also us! By the way, I also begin to walk under pain of dismissal. If anything, I will write here.
            1. Logall 23 August 2017 20: 42 New
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              Glory, I personally am not silent! Everyone who knows me personally will say that I never pass by (because of this I get on the head). But I’m not enough! And everyone has shirts! Everyone has their own! And this is the trend ...
    2. Tersky 23 August 2017 18: 32 New
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      Quote: Logall
      All involved must be judged. But they will condemn some laboratory assistant!

      Well, yes ..., but not our justice. For a shot from the Saiga with a fatal outcome of 15 years, for crushing a child with the same outcome - 5 years. So if you get someone, press, less time. What do we have in participle-
      Criminal Code, Article 293. Negligence
      1. Negligence, that is, failure to perform or improper performance by an official of his duties as a result of an unfair or careless attitude to the service or duties in the office, if this entailed causing serious damage or a significant violation of the rights and legitimate interests of citizens or organizations or the interests of society or the state protected by law, -
      (in the edition of Federal Laws from 08.12.2003 N 162-FZ, from 08.04.2008 N 43-ФЗ, from 13.07.2015 N 265-ФЗ)
      shall be punished with a fine of up to one hundred twenty thousand rubles or in the amount of the salary or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to one year, or compulsory work for up to three hundred and sixty hours, or correctional work for up to one year, or arrest for up to three months .
      Think for yourself, guess for yourself - to have or not to have (s) hi
      1. Logall 23 August 2017 18: 36 New
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        What is there to think? Behind the wheel, and in search of ...
      2. sabakina 23 August 2017 19: 09 New
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        Victor, only for some reason the GIBons assure me that there is no beast more dangerous than the TS!
        1. Tersky 23 August 2017 19: 15 New
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          Quote: sabakina
          Victor, only for some reason the GIBons assure me that there is no beast more dangerous than the TS!

          laughing Yeah yes statistics claims that five million people have weapons in Russia, while it also claims that the number of cars in Russia exceeded 56 million. That is why, probably, the period is less sculpted. laughing
          1. CorvusCoraks 24 August 2017 07: 58 New
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            Quote: Tersky
            That is why, probably, the period is less sculpted.

            Probably all the same because the composition of the crimes and their classification are different in these cases.
      3. sabakina 23 August 2017 19: 21 New
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        Tersky, it remains for me to buy a bronik and provoke it. Specifically, the whole office is tired of him.
        1. Tersky 23 August 2017 19: 24 New
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          Quote: sabakina
          it remains for me to buy a bronik

          winked What for? Expensive, same ... For "shit" kenguryatnik enough yes
          1. sabakina 23 August 2017 19: 36 New
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            So the point is to bring it to condition! And there let it go! The main thing is to get up a rhombus!
    3. svp67 23 August 2017 18: 35 New
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      Quote: Logall
      All involved must be judged. But they will condemn some laboratory assistant!

      So the “expert” immediately “made a pen” and left for a cardon ... I’m sure that he will now beat out the status of “watered refugee”.
      1. poquello 23 August 2017 18: 42 New
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        Quote: svp67
        Quote: Logall
        All involved must be judged. But they will condemn some laboratory assistant!

        So the “expert” immediately “made a pen” and left for a cardon ... I’m sure that he will now beat out the status of “watered refugee”.

        it’s a completely random case that popped up, and you won’t take such “experts” with cars
        1. svp67 23 August 2017 19: 51 New
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          Quote: poquello
          it’s a completely random case that popped up, and you won’t take such “experts” with cars

          Yes, it is no accident. If there are such "experts" and moreover this "expert" has a lot of dark affairs "
          1. poquello 23 August 2017 20: 12 New
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            Quote: svp67
            Quote: poquello
            it’s a completely random case that popped up, and you won’t take such “experts” with cars

            Yes, it is no accident. If there are such "experts" and moreover this "expert" has a lot of dark affairs "

            in the sense - by chance surfaced, in case of continuous offenses from officials and others like them, this is such a tip, an academic example where the complete absurdity of delirium purely by chance did not pass for itself a legitimate action, well, the child drank more than a lethal dose of an adult - oh, what rubbish, they didn’t establish in vain that he died from an overdose , then the accident, as it were, did not seem to be fatal, but he already died at all, sorry for blasphemy, I'm just terrified of their rightfulness
      2. Okolotochny 23 August 2017 18: 49 New
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        A week ago on the internet there was information that the boy’s parents refused to exhume the child’s body to conduct a set of examinations. Here it is. So, it’s too early to draw conclusions.
        1. sabakina 23 August 2017 19: 10 New
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          Quote: Okolotochny
          A week ago on the internet there was information that the boy’s parents refused to exhume the child’s body to conduct a set of examinations. Here it is. So, it’s too early to draw conclusions.

          Is there a version?
          1. Okolotochny 23 August 2017 19: 14 New
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            Glory, hi I do not even know. The statement on the refusal of exhumation was made not even by the parents, but by their lawyer. This is strange. Since, a few days after the tragedy, the child’s father was on TV live, he spoke. By the way, there was an expert on the same live broadcast who performed the autopsy of the boy.
        2. Tersky 23 August 2017 19: 27 New
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          Quote: Okolotochny
          I went back to the internet that there was information that the boy’s parents refused to exhume the child’s body to conduct a complex of examinations.

          This was not announced by parents, this is a statement by their lawyer, and as it is, my grandmother said in two ...
          1. Okolotochny 23 August 2017 19: 29 New
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            Read my post a little higher. This is also strange. The lawyer would not say "gag".
            1. Tersky 23 August 2017 19: 40 New
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              Quote: Okolotochny
              The lawyer would not say "gag".

              Well this is how to say -
              The father of the deceased six-year-old “drunk” boy Roman Shimko denied the information that the family refused to consent to the exhumation of the child’s body.
              Roman Shimko called the news about the refusal of exhumation rubbish and said. If the court believes forensic expert Mikhail Kleimenov, who wrote in the conclusion about the death of the child that 2,7 ppm of alcohol was found in the blood of the deceased, then Shimko intends to insist on exhumation.
              Read here
              1. Okolotochny 24 August 2017 08: 41 New
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                Well, anything can be. But you must admit, the father’s words about insisting on exhumation if the court favors the expert. What a favor ??? There is already an expert opinion. And to confirm or refute it can only be another conclusion. For another conclusion, EXGUMATION IS REQUIRED. Some strange "movements" in this matter. And you can conduct exhumation without the consent of the parents and then everything will fall into place - to institute proceedings on the fact of the discovery of alcohol in the child, there is such an article, Chapter 20 of the Criminal Code, there are several articles. But, neither the parents filed a UD to excite, nor the investigator does. I say, there are more and more questions.
      3. Krabik 24 August 2017 02: 08 New
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        The expert is not the main culprit, everything in the police department knew perfectly well about the murder of the child and the cops themselves gave this expert an examination.

        And then now everyone will pretend that the private expert is to blame, and the poor ATS is generally not involved!
        1. Okolotochny 24 August 2017 07: 59 New
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          that the expert is to blame

          This is the first time I've heard of this. Such examinations are carried out by forensic experts.
          1. Krabik 24 August 2017 10: 26 New
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            In a video clip about this case, I heard that the forensic examination is a private organization.

            And they touched on this topic in order to divert suspicion from the police department, which actually ordered this examination.
            1. Okolotochny 24 August 2017 10: 35 New
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              forensic examination private organization.

              No. She is in the system of the Ministry of Health. Other various experts may be private, with licenses. But not a court.
    4. Andryukha G 23 August 2017 18: 42 New
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      How dare you not understand that the laboratory assistant was paid money (given a bribe) so that he would draw in the conclusion that the boy’s body allegedly contained alcohol equivalent to a bottle of vodka.
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        the lab assistant was paid money (given a bribe) what would he draw in custody
        Does the laboratory assistant have a boss? He "believed" in this nonsense for free and "did not pay attention" to all violations during the examination?
      2. ihappy 24 August 2017 13: 28 New
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        Are you ... sorry ...?
        They paid ... where did the chicken have so much money for such an examination?
        You understand that such examinations cost a lot of money. This is not an adult attributed to a booze, but a child.
        And the most important thing. What's the point? Well, what's the use of this examination? You don’t see that this examination is beneficial ONLY to parents!
        To the driver of a solarium, this examination is like a dead poultice. She testified against herself and pleaded guilty even before the examination.
        By law, it is also impossible to crush the drunk.
        She rode with all the violations.

        And not a bottle of vodka. This is a child, not 100kg lump.
        50 grams would have been enough for him.
        Be silent when you do not understand the topic.
    5. Polite Moose 23 August 2017 18: 52 New
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      All involved must be judged.

      Will not help. Our court, as you know, is the most humane court in the world. But it’s very, very biased. It all depends on the "arguments" of the parties. Who gave more is true. And do not try to convince me otherwise. Maybe somewhere there is a court that makes fair decisions in cases of citizens, I have not heard of such a thing. Fair decisions in court are made in cases of two categories: 1. Particularly important, 2. Fuck nobody needs. For all the rest - prepare the "arguments". And this, in my opinion, is the biggest misfortune of our society. It is precisely because of the injustice to which our people are so sensitive that various dissidents, liberals and terrorists breed, who take out their grievances against the state with negative statements and criminal acts against the Russian people and the country as a whole.
      1. WHAT IS 23 August 2017 19: 16 New
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        Long live our court, the most humane court in the world ...
      2. Stanislas 24 August 2017 07: 46 New
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        It all depends on the "arguments" of the parties. Whoever gave more is truly
        For this, our Themis, standing above the entrance to the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation, was removed from the eyes; the main arguments are not voiced, they are written on a napkin or other scrap of paper (he saw himself in a movie))
  3. poquello 23 August 2017 18: 24 New
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    Down in Russia there is no law; officials have completely lost their fear.
  4. demo 23 August 2017 18: 30 New
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    It's one thing you ruined the life of the media.
    And another thing you took the life of a little boy.
    There is a difference?
    I would like to swear, but the moderators are animals.
  5. Altona 23 August 2017 18: 46 New
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    The presence of alcohol in the blood of the child should not affect the outcome of the case. A collision was made in a residential area, the driver grossly violated the rules, not convinced of the safety of his maneuver.
    1. himRa 23 August 2017 19: 43 New
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      A collision was made in a residential area, the driver grossly violated the rules, not convinced of the safety of his maneuver.

      + Maybe not agree! Key ,,living sector,, where the pedestrian has an advantage!
      And there is a speed limit!
    2. free 23 August 2017 20: 16 New
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      [quote = Altona] The presence of alcohol in the blood of a child should not affect the outcome of a case. There was a collision in the residential area, the driver grossly violated the rules, not convinced of the safety of his maneuver. [/ Qu
      that's it!
    3. Krabik 24 August 2017 02: 13 New
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      Alcohol in the blood of a child is a feature of this case, which highlights what punitives have come to us in the form of police and a dead judicial system.

      I’m interested, but what did the investigators and the police department think about when they released the killer and took an expert with a drunken child ?!
    4. ihappy 24 August 2017 13: 29 New
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      And does not affect.
      This scandal was fanned simply.
      A typical error in the examination. Hands of course need to be torn off. But here it’s clearly not that the slaves verb.
  6. Plombir 23 August 2017 18: 59 New
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    The fact that the expert turned out to be a scum is not surprising. Crazy and voila! But another thing is surprising. To push drunk children, so it is possible?
  7. afrikanez 23 August 2017 19: 01 New
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    Expert - count, Alisova 9 years per zone, without parole. negative
    1. Krabik 24 August 2017 02: 17 New
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      Alice is an ordinary fool, the whole thing in those who released her and cooked up this dirty business with a drunk boy.

      Tomorrow they will also cover their drugan who will take down the roof and he will shoot people in the store.
      It was, by the way, the thing is, I wonder how much they gave him for shooting buyers in the supermarket?
  8. Langf 23 August 2017 19: 16 New
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    Iksperd removed from the mink and on the block. I remember he was tweeting something about the impossibility of a mistake - also to hem the file as a deliberate misrepresentation. Yes, everything there, along the way, was not negligence, but conscious, for it clearly and competently kept its line and adorned confidence with its professionalism.
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      Iksperd removed from the mink and on the block. I remember he was tweeting something about the impossibility of a mistake - also to hem the file as a deliberate misrepresentation. Yes, everything there, along the way, was not negligence, but conscious, for it clearly and competently kept its line and adorned confidence with its professionalism.


      eh to pull this rope yes so that heads yes not one from shoulders
      1. Polite Moose 23 August 2017 22: 22 New
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        eh to pull this rope yes so that heads yes not one from shoulders

        Then in the country all administrative and criminal cases will be dealt with at gatherings of elders in settlements. And in stores there will be an abundance of soap. (do not disappear as a judge)
  9. Analyst 1973 23 August 2017 19: 39 New
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    The presence of alcohol in the blood of the child should not affect the outcome of the case. A collision was made in a residential area, the driver grossly violated the rules, not convinced of the safety of his maneuver.

    That's right. It’s just that the expert did several options of expertise in advance and then sold it, depending on what was required by the investigator. Which, in turn, punched the possibilities of the parties, moreover, with the knowledge of the head of the investigation. That's all, business and nothing personal!
  10. Million 23 August 2017 19: 51 New
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    One gets the feeling that the girl who hit the boy is his mistress, if not Serdyukov, then Chaika, Medvedev or Kolokoltsev.
    1. DEPARTMENT 23 August 2017 20: 03 New
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      One gets the feeling that the girl who hit the boy is his mistress, if not Serdyukov, then Chaika, Medvedev or Kolokoltsev.

      Let’s immediately clarify the situation “Putin’s mistress”, because the hype is being inflated .. There is a buildup of Russia in order to plunge it into the depths of troubles again and finally destroy it ... Such topics are constantly “twisted in our media” and prepared for “public opinion”. .Eh Russia, we have no peace!
      1. Million 23 August 2017 20: 08 New
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        The topic is popular of course. But you must admit, if our justice and other systems worked as they should, then such topics would not have arisen
      2. Monarchist 23 August 2017 20: 31 New
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        Department, you are absolutely right: they will try to inflate all this hype with an eye on certain thoughts.
        I think Anal regrets that it was a girl, otherwise he would have V.V.
      3. Krabik 24 August 2017 02: 24 New
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        In the media, they can do it for swinging, but I personally came across when a drunk driver was released after an accident, and I was to blame.

        And my brother also ran into this shit in uniform.
        I had an accident, and the culprit of the accident had friends in the traffic police.
        He told his brother that they say you will still be to blame.

        IMHO such a state should not exist ...
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          1. It's not for you to decide.
          2. It's easier for you to leave him.
          1. Krabik 24 August 2017 10: 39 New
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            It is up to the judge who appointed his son to be a prosecutor, and daddy a lawyer immediately earns money ?!

            This is about recent news, as 2 traffic police officers are judged for catching an intruder who was openly rude to them and who was driving a car with tinted windows.

            Or maybe the judge who let the guy slaughter a girlfriend in his house ?!

            Or maybe they will judge me at the police department in Novogireevo, who are immediately selling drugs on the subway?
  11. Monarchist 23 August 2017 20: 22 New
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    This has long been told in the news and about the organizational conclusions that followed.
  12. Analyst 1973 23 August 2017 20: 49 New
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    The hornet’s nest is in the police department, and the examination will write everything that is required of them in the Investigation Department. On parsley they will give a conclusion that marijuana, on Citramon, that heroin! And then they will destroy it by drawing up the act that the rats ate. But the pieces of expertise will be in the case, as well as the act of loss of material evidence. And the court will pass a guilty verdict because, on paper, you found marijuana and heroin. Repeated examination is not possible, because there is no material evidence, for good reason, the rats ate! And you will be stuck in 7 years of strict regime, for the acquisition and storage! Why acquisition? Yes, because their “garbage” contingent will point to you how you plucked hemp and bought heroin from an unidentified person. And Vasek drove through the stage, only because he found out about left-wing real estate affairs, single people, drug addicts, alcoholics, etc., etc. And these deals are nagging, none other than the Head of the ROVD and his deputies, and the chief role is played by the chief of the district commissioners. And here at the divorce, the command is given to Ugrozysk, the opera is grabbed and thrown up by dummies, then they are described with their own understanding, and the examination gives the necessary conclusion! The prosecutor's office is blind on a call, hand washes a hand and they still have to live together! A lawyer, a frightened old man or just a girl, a graduate of Yurfak and the daughter of the director of the restaurant. The court, just a formality!
    And so, not only with us! In the West, no better, if not worse. There, only in Hollywood films an idyll, but in fact the ass is complete! So it’s necessary for the pope to pick up the phone and call the President of the Court and the Prosecutor of the republic, because the pope is not the last person! And suddenly Themis begins to open her eyes and the prosecutor is excited! The case is being sent for further investigation, the prosecutor's office is initiating a case against the police, and they suddenly close the case for lack of corpus delicti. Everyone is shuffled in other regional departments and the performance is over, shook off, looked around and a new one, life goes on! Who had time he crouched! bully
    1. Krabik 24 August 2017 02: 28 New
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      Well written!
      1. Analyst 1973 24 August 2017 06: 42 New
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        From personal and very simplified. Life lasted two years! Later they began to take revenge and approximately in the same way, made two attempts. Both were brought to the Court, but in the first case, he moved out due to an innovation about the minimum mass of the substance subject to criminal liability, stupidly there was not enough weight in the package thrown into the car. In the second, they gave 2.5 conditionally and the garbage was furious from the judge's decision. And the judge admits that she knows about my innocence, but she can’t do anything with the papers, he must formally condemn! This whole saga lasted from 2000 to 2010! And the fact that they could not put me, no matter how hard they tried, is the merit of my father! Thank you dad! yes
        1. alexxxz 25 August 2017 10: 22 New
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          Come on, come on! Tell us tales! "Not mine! Threw it! Where did it come from - I don’t know!" Narco-huckster! Bitch! The fact that you were not imprisoned is not the merit of your dad, but the lack of cops! It would be better if you were closed for a long time! Such creatures like you - no place in this life!
          Here explain to me why such a happiness, you began to take revenge on the cops, to throw something? Well, convince me that you are D'Artagnan! What messed up? What had to be done to get the cops ganging up on you?
          "And the judge admits that she knows about my innocence, but can’t do anything with the papers, I must formally condemn!" And how much did it cost to “convince” the judge of his innocence? How much did the dad fork out?
          1. Krabik 25 August 2017 12: 13 New
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            While you yourself do not plunge into shit you will not believe.

            What can be done so that the cops would like to plant you ?!
            Trite, successful business generating revenue will want to take away from you.
            Or did not like in appearance.
            Well, or just for fun, like maniacs mock people.
          2. Analyst 1973 25 August 2017 19: 50 New
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            There is no "trash", we just do not live in an airless space. And they also walk on the ground and sometimes paths intersect. In the beginning, the matter comes to a conflict, then they feel that they ran into something wrong. Then they persist in their own frenzy, but they are already looking for where to crawl away, because they get through the horns. As a result, they remain with a tarnished reputation or no job at all. And if they stay, they still know about their dark deeds.
            Father led one of the federal services. I myself, not the last person, have weight among people. Looking for a house to buy, I ran into stories when garbage made real estate transactions, wringing it from the owners, through blackmail and threats! The conversation with the head of the police department led to a personal conflict, but the guy for whom I stood up was left for some time alone. Well, I started ten years of war with garbage and "helpers" such as you with uk!
            Of course I got a hole in the form of a conditional conviction, but I also drove them, so that several departments in the police department were disbanded several times. The boss also moved out due to the surrender of his subordinates, but in the end he was first transferred to a neighboring city, and then fired!
            I think that I won and now they are bypassing me. Even who does not know personally, they greet each other at meetings and do not try to tempt fate. Recently, they stopped at the post and, having learned, released, did not even begin to check the documents. So they can be real cops, I would say cops ?!
    2. alexxxz 24 August 2017 17: 59 New
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      Beautiful you, dear. Only here is another, REAL example. My neighbor is a senior uchik, periodically asks me to speak as a witness. Well, I am watching as I can for the "police lawlessness", because I am fighting it myself as I can. Recently a case. Calls "Participate! I beg you," he arrived, they got the drug addict, he was shaking all over, he had a "fuss". That is, trawl-wali, act-protocol, personal search. I watch carefully. Oper puts on gloves and hands up, like a surgeon, goes to the narik and starts to feel him in all places. Shast here, shast here ... "And what is so convex in your pocket so small?" “I don’t know ...” - says the narik. I can see everything. Everything is clear, everything is according to the law. He takes out a lump of electrical tape from his pocket, and, with all of them, unfolds a white powder. Well, as it should be in an envelope and persecuted. The detainee says - "This is not mine! Threw it!" Only one small moment - no one even clung to him in the process of detention (filmed on a video, I then watched), just came up to him from the face, he was rubbing grated, handcuffed and the narik climbed into the car himself. Those. there’s even nowhere to suspect how they planted him. Well, a neighbor says to me, “A rather big bundle! If (I don’t remember exactly) 0.5 gr or 1.5 gr, then we’ll close it fucking, for it’s a criminal, otherwise I’ve already got it with my trade” And what would you think? Not enough 0.05 gr before the criminal !!!
      And you say - cop lawlessness. ROVD, uchiki ... Yes, of course, in some cases the order is special, but everyone has children, wives, everyone goes home along these streets, so they don’t have an interest in generating this crime.
      1. Analyst 1973 25 August 2017 03: 41 New
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        Well, I meant such guidons! How much do you take for a part-time, littered erysipelas? Tell what you pushed as a certain version to the layman; they can still believe by inexperience. But I don’t have to comb my hair under the fool!
        If you hypothetically imagine your story is real, it still does not look real. Never the type who sells drugs will not do this in the middle of the street and even on a humara! If, let’s say, he goes crazy and sells, although he sausages himself, the first thing he will do is throw out or eat this bundle, at the first danger. They know all the trash by sight, as well as their cars and their numbers.
        In fact, he was caught much earlier and was probably rammed for more than one day, they waited for him to grow thin. Then they shot a movie about the alleged detention, with you they got what they themselves put into his pocket earlier. It can be seen that to the last he denies any involvement and does not admit guilt, or if he accepts what he was selling, he does not agree to trade in the garbage broader. Most likely this was the idea of ​​the whole performance. And apparently, the guy either agreed to their terms, or gave the loot, or they stupidly did not calculate the weight and laughed. More precisely, they put under themselves another drug addict who grew into a drug dealer and turned up for himself. And now he will be in the trash. And they will have time to put him in, but later. And do not worry about their children, let them worry about them themselves when they produce lawlessness. They themselves are the first threat to society and people like you help them in their lawlessness!
        1. alexxxz 25 August 2017 09: 46 New
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          Here you really are - you fool! Why are you pouring your shit fantasies into my ears? What for the presents, Schnick? I wrote what was, it REALLY was. And I have nothing here! Anyway, m..t shit on the fan! If you have been wronged somewhere, put shit in your mouth and spray the offenders! And neher to litter the Internet with your poop!
          1. Analyst 1973 25 August 2017 17: 53 New
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            Reality and your nonsense are in different dimensions! laughing
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          And do not worry about their children, let them worry about them themselves when they produce lawlessness. They themselves are the first threat to society and people like you help them in their lawlessness!
          You moron! And you can’t be cured ... All your logic is grave as you are! I worry about my children, not theirs. I do not help in lawlessness, but to the best of my ability I help to restore order in my country, in a separate region. And you go! Take a beer and then trynd your rotten fantasies. And better to deflate nah..n from our country! We don’t need such imbeciles like you! What have you done for the country? Personally, you! What???
          1. Analyst 1973 25 August 2017 17: 48 New
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            You sh lu trash and your joint activity, has nothing to do with the rule of law! soldier
        3. alexxxz 25 August 2017 09: 52 New
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          What kind of nickname did he take ... an analyst ... An analyst is a shit-politician! Fantasies are not analytics, fantasies are not even a hypothesis. Tryndobol!
          1. Analyst 1973 25 August 2017 17: 44 New
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            Yes, it’s from the word “anal”, I want to attract imbitsilik like you, look into it like a kaleidoscope. Whatever, the brain began to work and think that there is a flip side to the coin. If beautiful food gets into your mouth, you need to understand and in what quality it comes out of another hole. And this is not jam! laughing
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        If you were not personally planted with drugs and then did not require money to close the case, this does not mean that they do not throw drugs to others.

        There are hucksters who are not sinful and throw a bag, so as not to wander in the future, I prove the obvious in court.
        And there is such a thing that the guys from the police department jumped at you and raped a bottle, and then jumped on your mortal body that half of the ribs were broken.

        Let's hope that all the cops will be as decent as with you ...

        PS
        Regarding the "littered erysipelas," the analyst got to the point, we don’t need to pour water into our ears here.
        You still suggest watching a series about cops, what decent they are;)
  13. Maxim Sheludyakov 23 August 2017 21: 02 New
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    I do not understand two things - what for it was to invent so much alcohol? And the second, the boy jumped out of the cars (see the photo of the scene of the incident). What the hell was it to invent alcohol?
    1. Analyst 1973 23 August 2017 21: 53 New
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      This was one of the options and it was he who went into business, and after the resonance it turned out to be the most unsuccessful. They wanted to muddle that the child suddenly fell under the wheels as a result of intoxication. I think he had a conclusion that he had already fallen, that he had fallen from the balcony, from a branch, brought by the wind, that she was standing and he himself died from a blow to the car! The Musars, the more there is no difference, they have a daw system, the more they close, the better! And here such a perspective opens! The child has a father and mother, and most importantly an apartment that can be squeezed and sold. When parents, heartbroken and injustice, swell, and in this they will be helped by such as the roommate of this driver. In combination, a trash informer and an idler, consisting of a gang of "black realtors" whose roof is the local department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. One, two. calculation is over! bully
      1. ihappy 24 August 2017 13: 33 New
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        What nafig option?
        DO NOT invent fairy tales.
        Learn the law. A drunken child HAS NEVER HELPED TO HELP A DRIVER!
        From the word "absolutely."
        You read the examination first. And not just one, but at least a couple.
        It clearly states that he died from a car hit (in the same examination, where 2,5 ppm is indicated). A car examination said that the car was in order and the lady could stop.
        The husband sits, and once the woman decided to pull out.
        delirium

        All you wrote here is a stupid fiction. Insolvent from a to z.
        1. Analyst 1973 24 August 2017 17: 08 New
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          Tales are written by investigators, customizing them to a version convenient to them! The necessary conclusions are born from the materials of the case and, most importantly, the conclusions of experts. The investigator will sew what he wants, if there is self-interest and a desire to curry favor. Any outcome has its price. For drugs, for example, if you start acting from the first moments, it costs 300-400 thousand rubles to bounce, theft 500-600 thousand rubles, etc. and tp .. It’s put on stream and often rolls everything on green. People are terrified, ready to give any money. Believe me, if you start digging, mountains of drunk boys will come out. Look at the statistics on how many children died in Moscow and the region, even if that preliminary investigation was carried out that month and the evidence was destroyed. Perhaps in those cases, someone paid off and escaped criminal punishment for the death of children through their fault, with the help of corrupt investigators and experts. A criminal case was initiated only when the uproar was raised, and that only because his father was an employee of the Russian Guard. Money is usually received from intimidated culprits and their relatives. Here is a chain, build it in the opposite direction, if there is a brain. It is evident that you are simply ignoramus and abide in illusions. And the garbage snout sitting, and according to your version her husband, is like a dog’s fifth leg here, he’s just nobody and has nothing to do with this business! From a word, AT ALL !!!
          1. alexxxz 25 August 2017 09: 56 New
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            "For drugs, for example, if you start acting from the first moments, it costs 300-400 thousand rubles to bounce, theft of 500-600 thousand rubles, etc., etc. .."

            Listen, analyst, where did you get this info? Where is the price list dug up? Can you throw a link? Bullshit!
            You do not even notice your illogicality, and all because of your inferiority! For drugs and more time, there is less respect for “pushers” in the zone, but it’s cheaper to jump off your price list than for theft, for which less time and thieves’s articles are more kosher ... Go on! I carefully read your "five minutes of humor." I’m neighing a magician!

            "Believe me, if you start digging, mountains of drunken boys will come out. Look at the statistics, how many children died in Moscow and the region, even though that month there was a preliminary investigation and evidence was destroyed. Perhaps in those cases, someone paid off and escaped criminal punishment for the death of children through their fault, with the help of corrupt investigators and experts "
            Believe me, if you start digging, then the conclusions of psychiatrists will come out about you, and the conclusions of narcologists about your dad in the year you conceived. ))) Burn more!

            "And the trash snitch sitting, and according to your version her husband, is like a dog’s fifth leg here, he’s just nobody and has nothing to do with this business! From the word, AT ALL !!!"

            It feels like you are this snitch! And if you dig, it will also be omitted. Write well!
            1. Analyst 1973 25 August 2017 16: 37 New
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              The devil touched his damn essence! laughing
              Ram, theft involves victims, and this is always a risk and problems with closing the case. In case of drugs, it is only a matter with the suspect personally. He can be anything from just an addict to a drug lord. Naturally, this is the minimum bar for a rebound, and here it is possible to solve the problem, starting with the district or operas, at the investigation stage it will be more expensive. In court, deciding is even more expensive, but the probability is already nearing zero.
              , in places of detention it’s not the article how you will sit that decides, but your darling and decency. You can sit down for theft and end up in the goat house and vice versa, get caught and live with people.
              Chukhan, not knowing a person, never allow yourself to throw words, watch your tongue! Sometimes for one word, you have to pay with life!
          2. ihappy 29 August 2017 04: 03 New
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            You wrote nonsense.
            1. You have not read the examination. This is visible in your words. Silly words.
            2. 300k rubles for the seller in the store, it seems to me a little big amount. Although maybe there ZP in Pollyama ... Yeah.
            3. Examination with a drunk boy will not help. Why? but because you need to know the laws. Even if he was drunk and his parents were to blame, it somehow fell under the article. Then this opens a case for the parents and they are already judged. And the driver is no longer concerned. He has his own business and his own terms. For example, if you are raped and you then raped the rapist, they will put the rapist for violence with you and they will put you for violence against the victim of your rapist.
            Pick up the baby? Or threaten parents what will be taken away? (Or another stupid option)
            And how can parents influence a criminal case? Pick up the application? )))) you have to be smart from the end to think so. The prosecutor’s office initiates a criminal case and only the prosecutor’s office can close the case. The injured party here passes as witnesses.
            Maximum refuse testimony. But this is not necessary. Without the testimony of the parents, the driver will be jailed.
            In short, the person is completely ignorant of how the criminal process is going.
            4. I will not believe you. You are an ignoramus and I will tell you honestly, not an intelligent person. You carry such nonsense that even the headmaster of Vovochka’s school will not pull the globe.
            I came up with some amount. The criminal case you brought after the noise. Although, as everyone has already understood, you clearly do not understand the criminal process.
            And so on and so forth.
            In short, you.
            1. Krabik 31 August 2017 00: 50 New
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              Shot a child in a residential area.

              The killer was released, they did not start a case.

              Examination revealed the intoxication of the boy.

              Records from surveillance cameras disappeared somewhere.

              The hype in the press began only after dad got through to a direct line with the president and he promised to deal with this murder.

              You do not have to be an expert to draw a conclusion about this crime.
              Especially for people who are personally faced with this.
  14. Compass 23 August 2017 21: 09 New
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    It’s a pity, of course, both the child and the parents. And Alisova acted better than many of us could against the corresponding background. But, excuse me for the insensibility, which of all the actors is related to the topic of the site?
    1. DEPARTMENT 23 August 2017 21: 27 New
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      But, sorry for the insensibility, which of all the actors is related to the theme of the site?

      Yes, just to annoy us and to please some of the liberals here .. They wondered how they were inspired immediately! laughing Here on the site there is a subtle game, they probe everyone ..
    2. alexxxz 25 August 2017 10: 07 New
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      That's just no dignity in her behavior is not seen. What is it manifested in? She came to the parents of the deceased child and expressed her sincere condolences? Repented and obeyed? Begging for forgiveness? Larva she is ordinary! At stake, I would put her ... Or forget in a chamber with homeless people for a couple of days ...
      1. Analyst 1973 25 August 2017 17: 18 New
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        Here is a typical rubbish logic! Put in place a man not yet convicted, your mother, sister, daughter! You also throw them to the homeless, Mr. Nida?
  15. Analyst 1973 23 August 2017 21: 11 New
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    Yes, not authority, but a bandit. Black realtor. They killed lonely pensioners, alcoholics and sold apartments using fake documents. There were four or five of them in the gang. I do not know for sure. But that's what people say. I myself now live in Zheleznodorozhny. So the people say this. For what I bought, as they say, for that I sell it.

    And behind the back of the gang, there is a gang in uniform! Disease of the Moscow Region!
    1. Sergej1972 23 August 2017 23: 13 New
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      Moscow region, it is generally kind of loose in terms of power. It gives the impression of a conglomerate of districts and cities. It is probably due to the lack of a full-fledged regional center.
      1. Analyst 1973 24 August 2017 07: 17 New
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        Young graduates of the institutes of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, who are promising and full of energy, go to Moscow, and then, for various reasons, are screened out and settled like slag in the Moscow Region. His whole life and career has ended, and the existence of werewolves huddling in flocks begins. As a result, drunk boys appear throwing themselves under the cars of innocent hucksters! yes
        1. alexxxz 25 August 2017 10: 15 New
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          Do not fall, tro-lo-lo!
          Everything is not so arranged in this life! But you, of course, know better from school!
          In order to serve in Moscow after GSOM, you need to have a hairy leg. Nobody is going anywhere. A police officer has no right to leave his garrison without the permission of his leadership. Even in a vacation report they write a place of rest and wait for the permission of their superiors to go to the sea. Turkey / Ebibpti and other foreign countries are completely banned. A man in uniform, by definition, cannot just take and break somewhere full of energy and promising. In such structures, everything is done by translation, and for this you need to have connections. And money ... Again, everywhere you need experienced and knowledgeable people (there are enough of your loafers) to do the work, because no one canceled the stick planning system. And to cut down the "stick" you have to work! And believe me, you can’t cut down many sticks with stupid lawlessness, because everyone has friends, relatives, knowledge, and even the Internet, damn it!
          But you still write, shkolota!
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            You only confirmed my words! I personally know those who, as the best employees for their distinction and merits, climbed to Moscow! And now they serve in Tula, Tver, Podolsk and calmly take bribes, muddied schemes, live in mansions, ride Kruzak! They shit on everything from the bell tower! laughing
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  16. Analyst 1973 23 August 2017 21: 31 New
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    This is not the end of the story, it is necessary to exert pressure on justice so that the culprit is judged by a panel of judges, otherwise the court will give her conditionally and that's it ....

    They will give 3 years of probation! Maximum 4, I bet! sad
  17. Young_Communist 23 August 2017 23: 00 New
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    Do you know how many such Chekhov stories are throughout Russia?

    If you believe Navalny’s belolent belt upreaders swaying the boat - every second.
  18. Geisenberg 23 August 2017 23: 17 New
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    Hesitated already with this "drunk boy." Do your thing and that’s it. Stop pulling this bastard into the light.
    1. Krabik 24 August 2017 02: 32 New
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      When your child is crushed, and the cops prove that your child, 5 years old, has swollen and fell under the car himself, maybe you will change your mind about “this bucket”.
  19. ver_ 24 August 2017 02: 17 New
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    Everything is obvious there.

    Baba drove around the yards, as if on a highway and crushed a child who usually walk around the house.

    And in order not to sit down her friends went out of control for one dragging the rotten cop structures into the funnel.

    I think that for such a crime the cops should be severely punished, preferably hanging.

    Because this Mentavian structure is so rotten that they don’t even worry about maniacs who kill 50 women each and even try to release such things on the brakes.

    I even got an association of our cops with punishers of the SS 2 of World War II.

    ... the main thing in that department is to report on the work done - this is an indicator, and who will pull the deadline is the twentieth business. None of the mere mortals have billions * arising out of nowhere * of cash and heaps of real estate ..
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    In this case, not gross errors or fraud in the examination are striking. The straightforward thinking of representatives of law enforcement and judicial systems is striking: if the examination says that a 6-year-old boy drank 240 grams of vodka and while riding a bicycle, it means that it is. What is this idiocy? Who are we recruiting into these systems? Or maybe they specially take there? Questions ...
    1. Siberian 24 August 2017 05: 55 New
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      I am not an employee of forensic medical examination. But my question is - aren't such conclusions given collectively? One expert Kleimenov expert on all issues? He established the cause of death, and conducted an examination of internal organs and clinic, and biochemistry, and histology? Is he such a jack of all trades in our country (both a Shvets, a reaper, and a dude on a dude)? And before the hype in the media, nothing surprised anyone ...
      Even a veterinary post-mortem examination is carried out by collegially certified veterinarians (with certificates for pathology) gather, write an autopsy and examination protocol. Never a surgeon will give an opinion on therapy, a specialist in glands. the tract does not undertake to describe the genitourinary system.
      It was just a tried and tested circuit. But something went wrong.
      1. Analyst 1973 24 August 2017 06: 54 New
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        Collectively they shared grandmas!
    2. Analyst 1973 24 August 2017 07: 04 New
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      Who is being taken to organs? 80% of rubbish in life, human rubbish and fuckers! Look at your friends and remember their youth, as all the boys lowered them. These are the ones who go to cover themselves with epaulettes and then take revenge on the offenders! The remaining 20% ​​are sadists and crooks who use violence to gain wealth and career growth! belay
      1. Krabik 24 August 2017 10: 48 New
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        Of course I hate garbage, but it’s really disappointing that such a situation in the country.

        And okay, this rot would only be in the punitive department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

        All the same, the idea to build a bright future had a very real foundation and pushed people to positive actions ...
  21. Vanek 24 August 2017 04: 06 New
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    If this happens to my son, I’ll kill the perpetrator! I’ll sit at 10, according to parole I will go out through 8. And the bastard - DROP. They don’t come back from there.

    I’ll leave, he doesn’t.

    Do you feel the difference?
    1. CorvusCoraks 24 August 2017 08: 10 New
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      If the culprit has contacts, where you will sit, then you will not leave. A "heart attack" or "self-hanging" will not allow.
      1. Vanek 24 August 2017 08: 20 New
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        communication will be


        They all have.

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        you will not leave


        Not a fact.

        Yes, and then. The child will be avenged. hi
        1. Krabik 24 August 2017 11: 02 New
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          In fact, 2 people will suffer, not guilty of anything and 1 killer.

          And the cop office, which in theory should protect order and the law will earn money on both the victim and the murderer without fulfilling its function for which we all pay taxes and protect during wars.
      2. ihappy 24 August 2017 13: 34 New
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        Have you sat many times?
  22. Elephant 24 August 2017 11: 26 New
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    And why is expert Kleimenov still not behind bars? And also those that destroyed evidence, surveillance cameras, etc.?
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      No evidence was destroyed.
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    This evil spirits said that "the media ruined her life," and this individual has lost the right to life. You can understand that accidents happen to victims, sometimes the driver is not able to prevent, but in this case, the driver gets a penalty. In this case, the collision can be classified as intentional, because the driver could not understand that he was driving through the yard, the road separating the playground from the house, while exceeding the speed! and talked on the phone! Another aggravating circumstance is bribing an expert. An expert must also be punished for helping the criminal escape from punishment, and not only be deprived of a license to engage in expert activities. Still it would be necessary to deal with the disappearance of surveillance cameras and bring to justice.
    In vain she is indignant that her life was ruined: she lost her moral right to live. And she must be judged for intentional murder: the boy did not have a chance to survive because of the behavior of the driver.
    The humanism of the prosecutor's office and judges in relation to cynical killers is outraged.
  24. alexxxz 25 August 2017 09: 50 New
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    And do not worry about their children, let them worry about them themselves when they produce lawlessness. They themselves are the first threat to society and people like you help them in their lawlessness!

    You moron! And you can’t be cured ... All your logic is grave as you are! I worry about my children, not theirs. I do not help in lawlessness, but to the best of my ability I help to restore order in my country, in a separate region. And you go! Take a beer and then trynd your rotten fantasies. And better to deflate nah..n from our country! We don’t need such imbeciles like you! What have you done for the country? Personally, you! What???
    1. Analyst 1973 25 August 2017 16: 58 New
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      You are just a corrupt person who uses garbage for your selfish purposes! Blind, dumb imbitsil! He saves the world, you ruin people’s life, the trash has drawn! laughing
      1. Analyst 1973 25 August 2017 17: 12 New
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        You multiply chaos, that's all! Wrestler rag! laughing